Episodes

In this episode, Roy and Catherine sit with a deceptively simple question: what is enough? Catherine calls "enoughness" one of her favorite words, describing how easily she can get swept past the point of enough — a meal that only needed a few more spices, a conversation that didn't need to cover every feeling to the last detail, a party where staying past the moment it stopped being fun leads somewhere strange. She shares a vivid image from her clubbing days: the telltale sign you stayed too lo...

In this episode, Roy and Catherine reflect on how their own definitions of success have shifted with age. Roy shares how success once meant assets, achievements, and places he'd traveled — but now means being a good son, a good father, and living in a way that never comes at someone else's expense, becoming mission-driven rather than life-driven, where a real purpose brings everything together for the benefit of others, even people he'll never meet. Catherine traces a similar evolution — from as...

In this episode, Roy and Catherine ask each other a deceptively simple question: what are you learning right now? Catherine shares a lesson from day one of her humanistic psychology master's degree — that literally everything is a learning opportunity, not just formal workshops — and how she trained herself to notice learning happening constantly, including right now on this podcast, where she's practicing making a point quickly and meaningfully instead of over-explaining it. Roy shares two thin...

In this episode, Roy and Catherine share the small, repeated habits that quietly compound into something meaningful over time. Roy talks about watching podcast analytics closely enough to trust his own instincts — including the time he nearly skipped releasing an episode about eating bugs because the guest looked like he'd just crawled out of bed, only to watch it flop to an 8% completion rate, confirming what he'd sensed all along. He shares his health habits — the gym, eating well, walking in ...

In this episode, Roy and Catherine ask a pointed question: are you too busy to notice you're too busy? Catherine compares chronic busyness to dehydration past a certain point — where you stop even wanting the thing you actually need, because busyness fills every sense to the edges and functions like a suit of armor against feeling anything, including vulnerability. She traces some of it back to the Protestant work ethic — the idea that your worth equals how hard you've worked, even when that wor...

In this episode, Roy and Catherine explore an idea that sounds like a contradiction from the start — how can silence, the absence of doing anything, be something you actively practice? Roy breaks it into two angles: silence as a break from noise and distraction, and silence in conversation itself — noticing how rarely people actually listen, because most are busy rehearsing what they'll say next instead of taking in what's being said. He makes the case that staying quiet and present in a convers...

In this episode, Roy and Catherine explore where creativity actually comes from — and land on a shared idea that it's not something you manufacture, it's something you make room for. Catherine explains the philosophy behind her brand, Being Space: that creativity is happening constantly as a natural life force, but most of us are too tangled up in our own drama and mental clutter to notice it. For her, making space means clearing physical clutter, clearing the mind through meditation, yoga, or w...

In this episode, Roy and Catherine dig into gratitude — not the meme-worthy, 30-day-challenge version, but what actually happens when you practice it for real. Roy shares how gratitude became one of the things that saved him during his darkest period of losing everything, when the phone was full of bailiffs and debt collectors — deliberately turning his mind toward what he still had: his parents' unwavering belief in him, his kid's hug, a roof over his head, food in his belly. Catherine reflects...

In this episode, Roy and Catherine explore what it actually means to see the best in someone — not just noticing the strengths already visible on the surface, but trusting that people have strengths you haven't even discovered yet. Catherine shares how this belief turned out to be the foundation of her entire coaching practice before she ever had a name for it — she'd been operating this way with clients for 16 years before training in humanistic psychology, only to discover during her master's ...

In this episode, Roy and Catherine explore what actually makes a question good — and it isn't cleverness. Roy shares his approach to podcast interviewing: never studying a guest's prepared questions in advance, because that just produces the same recycled answers they've given a hundred times. Instead, he peels back the layers to find where someone's really coming from, so they forget they're being interviewed and open up about what they're genuinely passionate about. Catherine connects this to ...

In this episode, Roy and Catherine dig into where their own boundaries most need attention — and for both of them, it's less about other people than about themselves. Catherine opens up about her long, ongoing relationship with screens and scrolling, comparing it to a kind of addiction that never fully disappears, just gets managed better or worse at different points in life — and makes the case that our culture has had thousands of years to learn healthy relationships with things like alcohol, ...

In this episode, Roy and Catherine explore the relationships that shape who we become. Roy talks about staying close to his mother as a daily sounding board — valued more for her intuition and people-sense than for business advice — and about surrounding himself with people he trusts who are genuinely trying to make things better for others. He shares his approach to friendship as something built deliberately, not left to chance: picking up the phone instead of waiting to be needed, and choosing...

In this episode, Roy and Catherine ask a simple but surprisingly hard question: can you be kinder to yourself? Catherine recalls the first time someone told her to take better care of herself — and how it landed as criticism rather than care, a reflex she traces back to a lifelong identity of resilience and toughness that left little room for treating herself as someone who also needs love and vulnerability. She didn't start learning true self-compassion until her 30s, and makes the case that it...

In this episode, Roy and Catherine tackle a question worth sitting with: what if failure actually teaches us something? Roy opens up about losing everything — his home, his belongings, all of it — during the mortgage crisis, and how that setback, rather than breaking him, led him into living mindfully in the present and studying sovereignty, which he now credits with making him more powerful and free than he was before. Catherine pushes back on the word "failure" itself, unpacking the deep condi...

In this episode, Roy and Catherine explore the stories we unconsciously tell ourselves — and how they quietly run our lives. Catherine shares a wake-up call from a conversation with a marketing coach, who helped her see the excuses she'd built around avoiding social media ("I'm too old," "my clients won't be on there anyway") — stories that vanished the moment she recognized them as fake. Roy shares two of his own, including a childhood story about when he actually started Kung Fu, and a long-ru...

In this episode of Different Points, Roy Coughlan and Catherine Llewellyn dig into what happens when pressure takes over — and why celebrating small steps forward beats anxious fixation on the end goal every time. From the nightmare of UK property chains to how Poland does it in a day, this is a practical and uplifting conversation about staying in flow. What You'll Learn in This Episode Why pressure kills momentum and sends you reaching for distractions instead of taking action How Ca...

In this episode of Different Points, Roy Coughlan and Catherine Llewellyn get into something that holds more people back than they'd like to admit — the pursuit of perfection. When does attention to detail serve you, and when does it just get in the way? Raw, honest and fittingly imperfect, this one is worth your time. What You'll Learn in This Episode Why Catherine used to edit every pause and um out of her podcast — and why she stopped How Roy launched this very podcast within days o...

In this episode of Different Points, Roy Coughlan and Catherine Llewellyn explore something deceptively simple — what actually makes you feel alive? Not the theory of life, but the feeling of it. From family and conscious dance to sober raves at sunrise, this is a warm, joyful conversation that might make you stop and ask yourself what you've been putting off that genuinely lights you up. What You'll Learn in This Episode Why Roy rings his mother every single day — and why family is at th...

In this episode of Different Points, Roy Coughlan and Catherine Llewellyn explore one of the most powerful — and most ignored — tools we have as humans. From the gut feeling Roy had before a financial crash to the motorbike he knew wasn't right, to the spontaneous idea that started this very podcast — this episode is a reminder to stop letting your head talk you out of what you already know. What You'll Learn in This Episode How this podcast was born from a single intuitive moment — and w...

In this episode of Different Points, Roy Coughlan and Catherine Llewellyn reflect on the moments life took an unexpected turn — and what happened when they chose to flow with it rather than fight it. From financial wipeout to lockdown podcasting, this is a powerful conversation about resilience, freedom and trusting the path you didn't plan. What You'll Learn in This Episode How Roy losing everything financially set him on a far better path than the one he was on Why accepting a major ...

In this episode of Different Points, Roy Coughlan and Catherine Llewellyn tackle a question that sits at the heart of how we pursue success — what's driving you, purpose or ambition? And is one better than the other? Honest, personal and thought-provoking as always. What You'll Learn in This Episode The real difference between purpose and ambition — and why it matters how you show up How Catherine discovered the distinction between the two inside a spiritually driven organisation — and...

In this episode of Different Points, Roy Coughlan and Catherine Llewellyn get personal about what truly drives them. From a six-year-old Catherine questioning why adults weren't saying what they really meant, to Roy's quest to make the world better one conversation at a time — this is a reflective, honest episode that might just make you stop and ask yourself the same question. What You'll Learn in This Episode How Roy's financial wipeout led him to discover his real mission in life Wh...

In this episode of Different Points, Roy Coughlan and Catherine Llewellyn get into one of the most underrated qualities a person can have — integrity in the small, everyday moments. The agreements you make with yourself, the things you do when no one is watching, and the courage to call things out even when it's uncomfortable. This one hits close to home. What You'll Learn in This Episode Why integrity starts with the small promises you make to yourself — and what happens when you break t...

In this episode of Different Points, Roy Coughlan and Catherine Llewellyn explore what happens in the space between what people say and what they actually mean. From reading body language to knowing when to offer solutions versus just being present, this is a conversation about the deeper art of truly listening. What You'll Learn in This Episode Why paying attention to how someone says something matters as much as what they say How to read body language and reactions to understand what...