#46 Everyday Spiritual Practices
In this episode, Roy and Catherine share how they actually practice presence day to day. Roy describes his approach as having evolved over the years into appreciating the earth, the sun, and the food grown from both, staying grateful for what sustains him and paying close attention while he’s out walking, enough that he notices when he feels out of sync and knows to step back, take a break, read, or simply stop staring at a computer. He’s not attached to any particular belief system, has friends across many religions, and sees everyone as part of a shared collective regardless of what they individually believe, with presence itself being the real practice rather than any fixed ritual. Catherine agrees and adds that remembering we’re all part of the same collective, no matter our beliefs, is itself a spiritual practice, one she has to actively choose, especially since she lives and works alone much of the time and can start to feel isolated before catching herself and remembering she’s actually connected to everything and everyone. She describes a deliberately playful technique she uses: sitting and telling herself, as if it were true, that nobody likes her, nobody cares, nobody wants to talk to her, and finding that within seconds laughter bubbles up because her body already knows it’s false, which is exactly the point, the exercise snaps her back to what’s actually true rather than what she’s spiraling into. She contrasts this with wallowing in boredom, loneliness, or lack, something everyone gets stuck in sometimes, noting that even her brother used a similar discipline as a kid, cataloguing what’s wrong then deciding what to actually do next. Alongside that mental practice, she names physical daily habits that pull her back into presence: stretching and feeling grateful for having a body, yin yoga, walking, dancing, and simply watching the sunrise or sunset.
Timestamps
0:02 — Introduction and today’s topic: everyday spiritual practices
0:29 — Roy: gratitude for the earth and sun, and noticing when he’s out of sync
1:56 — Catherine: the collective, the “nobody likes me” game, and daily grounding habits
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[Speaker 1] (0:02 - 0:26)
Welcome to Different Points, episode 46, with my co-host Roy Colan and myself Catherine Llewellyn. So welcome back everybody. Today's topic is everyday spiritual practices.
I love this topic. Roy, what's your take on this and how do you practice presence and what are your everyday spiritual practices?
[Speaker 2] (0:29 - 1:55)
It's evolved over the years but I kind of, for me it's appreciating the earth that we live on, the sun that gives life and heat and the food that I eat that's grown from the sun, the rain and the combination of the earth and the nutrients and just I suppose even when I'm walking I'm just kind of absorbing all the beauty in nature and just being present. I think it's more present as opposed to a certain thing. It's not that, I mean, everybody's got their own belief system, their own religions and things like that and I have friends with all different religions and that's good for me.
It's more I see life coming from the sun and the earth and that I give gratitude towards that and just that everything I'm doing I'm paying attention to it and even when I'm walking if I'm out of sync I know it on my walk and then I just go what's going on with my life, why okay I need to take a break sometimes, just step back, stop being stuck in front of the computer, just take a few, you know, hours reading a book or just don't do anything and it might not sound like spirituality but I think it's just being present with yourself which is are we all part of the combined collective? It seems like that but everyone's their own belief.
[Speaker 1] (1:56 - 6:07)
Beautiful, well I see it that way too and I feel like even regardless of what beliefs we have doesn't change the fact that we're all part of the same collective which I think is a really lovely thing. So I'm in the same collective with everybody, whatever their beliefs are, whoever you are watching and listening to this and I think that's a wonderful thing to remember and that connection with the reminder of the connection with the collective to me I think is a spiritual practice. You know I can sometimes, I live on my own, I work one-to-one often on Zoom and so I often spend a lot of time by myself by choice and sometimes I can start to forget that I'm part of a collective.
I can start to think oh I'm all on my own, I'm isolated but very often I quickly remember actually Catherine that's absolute nonsense, you're not, you're connected in with everything, you're connected in with everybody and to me that switch from I'm isolated and separate to I'm part of everything is a spiritual switch and practicing that is a spiritual practice I believe. Choosing to do it rather than waiting for life to convince us that we're loved, that we belong, that people want us etc etc etc. In fact I do a little game sometimes which this might sound a bit sad but for me it's really fun.
It's a sit there and go nobody, nobody likes me, nobody cares about me, nobody is interested in me, nobody wants to talk to me, no one wants to ever invite me anything to do anything, no one ever gets in touch. Just sit to say that, sit there for a moment and with a nanosecond this laugh starts coming up inside my body because it knows that that is completely not true. But by saying it as if it is true, it's a game right, saying it as if it is true faces me with the fact that it's completely not true.
So for me that thing of coming back to what's really true each time is a spiritual practice. But wallowing in oh I feel bored or lonely, I haven't got enough money and all the other things we can wallow in, that's the anti side of that and that's something we can all get stuck in. But we can practice coming out of it.
I had a chat with my brother the other day and said do you do this in your own head? He goes yeah, he used to do it when we were children. He'd go right this and this and this and this and this and this is all wrong, and then right okay then life right now what do we do, what games do we play?
And it was of such a good discipline I'd forgotten where it came from in the first place. Having said that I do think there are daily things that can really help us. Like for me there's stretching my body and being grateful for having a physical body, doing yin yoga I've been doing lately, going for walks like Roy, dancing, you know sitting and looking at the sunrise, looking at the sunset, looking at the sky.
All these things are really good ways to pull us out of our kind of stupid egotistical nonsense that we can get stuck in. I can certainly get stuck in it and come back out into what's really true which is the miracle of life. So I could go on and on about this and I do on my own podcast Roy, don't I?
Thank you everyone for watching and listening. Whatever your everyday spiritual practice is, really value it and do it because it's probably unique to you and you've probably developed it over many years and really celebrate it. And maybe tell a friend about the show and maybe give us a review if you feel like it.
And have a wonderful day. See you next time. Take care.
