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Oct. 19, 2026

#39 Small Acts of Courage

#39 Small Acts of Courage
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#39 Small Acts of Courage

In this episode, Roy and Catherine ask: where can you be brave today? Catherine admits the question first strikes her as odd since there’s no obvious threat in her day, just work at home, but she identifies several real forms of small courage. One is being truthful and genuinely feeling what she shares in promotional video clips rather than performing something she thinks people will like, and she says she can tell the difference between creators who are doing that and ones who are just presenting, versus the opposite extreme of people manufacturing drama to look brave rather than being brave. Other forms of courage she names: ending a relationship that needs ending, telling someone an uncomfortable truth, dropping a habit, or doing a screen fast, something she compares to coming off sugar years ago, since both remove an artificial comfort and force you to face how drained you actually are underneath it. She ties this back to trust, noting that the most courageous people she knows are also the most present, transparent and agenda-free, which is exactly what makes them trustworthy. Roy connects this to his father, a chief projectionist at an Irish cinema who refused to back down as the workers’ union spokesman even while everyone else folded under pressure from management, only for Roy to later learn the union reps were quietly having dinner with the cinema owners they were supposedly fighting. Roy also mentions self-publishing a book years ago that ten people warned him he’d get “whacked” for, with one reader instead calling him the “warrior of love,” a title he now keeps on his Facebook page. He then shares several Covid-era stories of refusing to comply: being confronted by police over a mask in a supermarket and walking away after asking “are you talking to me?”, teaching his son not to fall for what he calls pandemic theatre, questioning the contradiction of people tapping shared touchscreens to order food then eating with their hands while supposedly terrified of contamination, and shouting at judges and detectives in court when he felt they were acting corruptly or trying to trap him with paperwork, watching them back down once confronted. For Roy, none of that was really about being brave, it was about standing in his own sovereignty and not being intimidated by a uniform, a title, or a piece of paper.

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#39 Small acts of courage
[Speaker 1]
Welcome to episode number 39 of Different Points. I'm joined by my co-host Catherine O'Loughlin and I'm Roy Cole. Today's point is small acts of courage.

Where can you be brave? Is it brave or did I write it wrong? Brave, yeah.

Where can you be brave?

[Speaker 2]
Where can you be brave? Well, it's such a good question and it makes me think, and it's small acts of courage. So it makes me think, well, where could I be brave today in my life?

I haven't got, there is no tidal wave coming across the hills at the house. There's no marauders or tigers or anything attacking me. I'm actually just spending the day at home, pottering about, doing some work.

So what is there to be afraid of? But actually it is true that there are different ways I can be brave today. So one way I can be brave is I've got to make some little video clips for promotion.

I can be brave in the way I do those by being really truthful, by being in my feelings when I share what I'm going to share. Sharing something I feel is really meaningful instead of trying to share something which I think everyone will like or think is clever. And that's a small act of courage.

And I've noticed on social media, I think I can tell the difference between when people are doing that in their videos and things like that, and when they're just giving a presentation, because it feels different when I watch it. I respond to it differently. And you also get people who go too far the other way, where it's all about, and I had this awful trauma and then I was ripped apart and then this happened.

And sometimes you can tell they're just trying to look brave when really what they're doing is just telling a drama that they want to suck people in. So it's a really interesting thing. Are we trying to look brave or are we being brave?

And what is the act of courage? And actually another way to be brave is to stop doing certain things, like let go of a particular relationship or tell someone the truth in a relationship or ask the difficult question or let go of a habit. Or some people do a thing like a screen fast, where they can say, I'm not going to look at a screen for 24 hours or 72 hours or a week.

And that's quite a brave thing to do, actually, because we get a lot of comfort from looking at screens and it helps fill the gaps between what we're feeling, what we're thinking, what we're experiencing. So going without it is a bit like going without food or something like going without sugar. You know, I came off sugar years ago and it was a brave thing to do because sugar is very comforting and it gives a kind of a quick boost to energy.

And then when you don't have it, you suddenly are faced with, oh, my God, I'm drained. My reserves are drained and I cannot pretend otherwise because I'm not giving myself this artificial stimulant. So there are many, many ways that we can be brave.

And I actually think the people I know who are most courageous are also the ones who are the most present and transparent. They're the most, yeah, this person is who they seem to be. This person's genuine.

This person's got no, they don't need anything from me. They've got no agenda with me. I can trust them.

So I do think there's a connection between small acts of courage and being brave and being trustworthy and balanced and real.

[Speaker 1]
Yeah, lovely. This was when I heard that first, I think of my father, when he used to work, he was like the chief projectionist in a cinema. And yeah, they had a union and they're constantly trying to, you know, take benefits from him and everything.

And everybody be complaining. So my dad would kind of like, you know, be spokesman and everybody then would just change their mind, you know, and just look up to the boss. But he wouldn't.

He'd stick his guns, you know, if he would say it as it was. So for me, he was being brave. And then he saw him later, you know, the union going for dinner with, you know, the bosses who owned all the cinemas in Ireland.

And so, and I have seen that later in life that a lot of the times these unions pretending they're friends, protecting the workers, it's all a game. So just be aware of that. And the other one, I had written a book years ago, didn't publish it, but printed 20 copies and 10 people said I'd be whacked from it.

But one person, she christened me the warrior of love. So I have that on my Facebook page. I just thought, you know, it was lovely.

So if I look, because we've talked now, this is probably the three in a row of COVID and I think the people that dump with the COVID are going, oh no, not again. But when I was with my son, we were shopping and we were coming up with the trolley. Everybody wearing their masks.

I said, for me and my son, next the cops come straight towards me. And they kind of walk to the side and they start shouting at me. And I just turned in Polish and I just turned in English.

Are you talking to me? And they just both kind of went like that. And they said mask.

And I went, yeah, I just turned and walked. And I didn't, I wasn't afraid, but I was also teaching my son, hey, don't fall for stupidity because whether you believe or don't believe, all you have to do is get a vape and blow and you'll see it. I mean, so that didn't work anyway.

Or, I mean, I was inside in the supermarket and we were, I think we, did we get a Chinese or sushi or something, but it's one of these places where there's kind of McDonald's are there as well. And I'm looking right. This is where everything has a big screen in front of it and everything.

All the people that were going up, ordering their stuff, touching a screen and paying with their card and then sitting down and eating with their hands. And I just said, such stupidity. If there was such a thing, I'd be just looking at bodies lying around the place.

So start using your, your head as well for when you're putting and don't, don't be afraid. And same with courts. I've been in courts.

I shouted at judges because I just saw the corruption. And instead of I'm saying you're in contempt of court. This is what I got.

I shouted at police officers, same thing, detectives calling me in. And at the start, you know, they do such a thing and they give you a piece of paper to sign it. And then they're using it against you when they're pretending, Hey, this is just for information.

It's just a process and things that they'd done that laid that I realized. And I just shouted at them and that they're kind of taken back. They say to stand up for us, but when you know you're being wronged, you just see them buckle.

So don't be afraid of the person with the suit, the gong, the black gong or anything. And that's not being brave. That's just kind of standing in your true self, your, your sovereignty.

[Speaker 2]
Beautiful. Absolutely true.

[Speaker 1]
So I hope we didn't stir too much in you, you know, when we're talking about the COVID, but just, just claim the fifth. If you're listening to vote, you might, the pieces might come together. So be sure to give us a thumbs up, five star and share with your friends and please write in.

We're listening to your comments. We're taking them on board and we start saying it. Plus we'll mention your name as well.

Cause we appreciate that until the next episode. Take care.

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