Jenifer Lewis Pt. 2

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Speaker 1: Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. All Right, y'all, welcome back to another QLs. All right, So last week, you remember, Jennifer Lewis came on Court Love Supreme and the accomplished actress talked about traveling the world, mental health, and sex addiction. She even sang me a song on the piano. All right, here's part two. Jennifer gives a powerful life advice touches on her new book, which is called Walking in My Joy in These Streets, which is out now.

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Speaker 2: You know, as I said before, this is probably one of.

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Speaker 1: The best interviews we've ever done on this podcast, So listen. This is probably the only interview in which I didn't ask one question.

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Speaker 2: That I was planning on. Just she took over. I hope you enjoyed it.

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Speaker 1: All right, Okay, I'm gonna take this a little bit to the creative because this is what I admire about you the most. How can you get and this is I know we're gonna step I know that the answer is going to be an hour, but how can you truly one of the things that I hope to finally rid myself of, and if I could rid myself of this it's curtains, and that is how do you rid yourself of the chip that overthinks people pleasing or other people.

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Speaker 2: Are gonna think, or giving a fuck about what other people think.

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Speaker 1: Because I still old habits die hard, and I know, like the thing, the one struggle I have in the last like the one thing I've not completed in my transformation, is my need to pause and think about what other people think, think before what I think.

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Speaker 2: Need for approval.

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Speaker 3: I got you, Pumpkin.

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Speaker 1: The reason why my mouth is a gape at every answer that you're giving is because I truly envy the fact that I don't have this level of freedom.

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Speaker 4: Ask yourself this, This won't be an our answer. This is a brief one because this is an easy one for me. I've never given a fuck what people think about me. I'm like, bitch, step your ass aside, I'm coming through. Now listen, ask yourself this, Oh, if you were laying in the hospital on your deathbed, would that person who is giving who you are giving a fuck about, who probably don't even give a fuck about you, would they coming to that hospital and say.

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Speaker 3: To you, let me die for you? Quest who?

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Speaker 4: Now listen to the end of it. And if they're not willing to die for you, why are you living for them?

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Speaker 2: H God, damn.

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Speaker 5: Shit, I thought he was gonna go off the rails.

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Speaker 1: No, that that shit hit me so hard in the gut.

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Speaker 2: Man, what that.

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Speaker 4: Person that you're sitting there obsessing over come in there and say, oh, let me die for you know they won't because they can't get into reality.

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Speaker 3: Quest, I'll come for your ass.

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Speaker 4: Don't you dare? Don't you dare? Don't you dare? Not that one, that's an easy one.

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Speaker 5: Oh damn shit was hard.

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Speaker 3: If they are not willing.

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Speaker 4: To die for you, why are you living for them?

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Speaker 5: If they are not willing to die, it's an affirmation.

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Speaker 3: And the story. Next question, next question?

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Speaker 2: Please, Yeah, y'all gotta handle it. I got I gotta ponder. I literally had to remember that.

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Speaker 1: You remember the Matthew nos woman where I had to take time out Right, I'm having one of the moments right now.

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Speaker 2: They are not.

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Speaker 5: Willing to die for you, a man, Why are you living for them?

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Speaker 3: I got this?

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Speaker 5: Okay, here's my question? What is joy to you?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 5: Please please bring please It's one of my favorite words.

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Speaker 3: It is a brief answer. Also, mm hmm, the day I touched Bliss. Nobody uses that word.

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Speaker 4: Who the fuck goes around talking about it's a luxury? Fucking word probably comes up once all over the universe once Bliss.

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Speaker 3: Listen to me the day I touched Bliss?

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Speaker 4: What's the day I took responsibility for every choice I had made, was going to make, and the choice I was making at that moment to learn, Oh that I am responsible. You can point the finger and blame all.

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Speaker 3: The fuck you want.

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Speaker 4: And even if you're laying next to somebody at night, your headache is your own. So stand up, stand in your joy. When you don't know what to.

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Speaker 3: Do, do nothing.

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Speaker 4: Stick your ass in central park of where the fuck you lives. You go, find a tree, You sit down and hush, Be still, Be still and know this is your life. You are the center of it. You are the master of your universe. All of those planets and stars that you see, the Milky Way, the nebulas.

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Speaker 3: They're in you. How dare you.

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Speaker 4: Not stand up and appreciate mighty fighters, trees, jocarondas and crape myrtles and aga panthers and grass itself. Oh, come on, jesus, grass, what about grass?

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Speaker 3: Ah?

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Speaker 4: Shah Naa. We don't even look at it. We just take it for granted. And yet who and yet there are more stars in the universe than there are grains of sand, and that includes every beach on this planet. Take that shit in. I don't even know if it's true, but somebody told me that she want that.

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Speaker 2: And I have a line.

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Speaker 4: I have a line in my new book, Oh Good, and it says, let me enjoy this moment, let me laugh as loud as I want, because I believe just it just might be true. But it's not gonna hurt me to imagine this. My laughter, the energy from my laughter may reach a nebula and hold my consciousness to it to create its life. Don't fuck with me, y'all. Don't fuck with me. I'm thinking about nebulas for the next generation. We don't know if human beings we just you night, we could have pushed back.

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Speaker 3: Katrina.

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Speaker 5: Hmm.

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Speaker 3: You take that in. There's your metaphor for how powerful you are.

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Speaker 4: I believe in mankind, these are not dark times with the bullshit that's going on.

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Speaker 3: These are awakening times.

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Speaker 4: So wake the fuck before this bitch becomes a Nazi state.

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Speaker 6: You're gonna just ride out no matter what happens here. You know, one of these people considering like I'm gonna go somewhere.

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you something.

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Speaker 4: Okay, it's it's ours, we built it. Let me tell you something. If that motherfucker is elected. Mm hmm, I will personally fly to dcord.

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Speaker 3: Listen to me.

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Speaker 4: I ain't watching ship. Listen to me. I don't watch ship, all right.

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Speaker 3: Listen to me.

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Speaker 4: Ah, I will personally fly to Washington, d C. And I will climb that fence and take this fuck it right.

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Speaker 3: Listen to me.

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Speaker 4: Listen to me carefully. I will take that bullet for the next generation.

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Speaker 3: If me going.

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Speaker 4: Down will make you motherfucker's rods, I'll take that bullet.

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Speaker 3: You understand, darling. I've lived.

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Speaker 4: My little nephew came running over to me because we were sitting around talking about death at the beginning of COVID, because everybody contemplated their death during that time, because we didn't know about it at the beginning.

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Speaker 3: My little nephrew washed over. He said, tea, Jenny, you're not You're not afraid to die. I said, no, baby, I'm not. He said why. I said, because I've lived. Don't fuck with me. Yeah, Am I scared? Listen to me, Am I scared? No?

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Speaker 2: You are not to me?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but no, I'm scared, but I'm not afraid. See to be scared. It's okay. We're human. These motherfuckers are shooting out children in the back. Yeah, I'm scared. These motherfuckers have gone crazy. Yeah I'm scared. But am I am afraid? Am I afraid? Shoot me, bitch?

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Speaker 3: You live with it.

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Speaker 5: That's the freedom's friend.

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Speaker 4: You want to know the real freedom?

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Speaker 3: Not even me can stop me. That's how powerful. That's how powerful the gift is. Shoot me, bitch. I'm gonna live forever, or you will. I'm gonna live for ever. In that, let me tell you.

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Speaker 4: In that.

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Speaker 3: You remember the matrix they dodged the bullets?

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, well I can kick my leg up still, but I.

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Speaker 3: Can't been back like I used to. But guess what.

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Speaker 5: What what?

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Speaker 4: There is nothing on this planet. That's why Trump can't do nothing with Obama. Love is the greatest weapon. Don't ever forget that. That's why I feel sorry for him in many ways because Obama led with love.

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Speaker 3: You can't destroy that.

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Speaker 4: I do'ni fuck what you do gonna take Frederick Douglas and doctor King out of your goddamn books. Those people will live forever. You can't erace love, you dumb son of a bitches.

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Speaker 3: You cannot you love, You can't. Baby. I wished the bitch would let me tell you what happened to me. I couldn't believe it. But I'm pulling up.

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Speaker 4: White woman, white woman, Karen, God bless her. I never thought I would experience it.

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Speaker 3: She told me.

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Speaker 4: She asked me to back up. She's she pushed her hand. I went, okay, so I backed up. She did it again, back up it And she didn't say that, but I felt that. But I backed up anyway.

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Speaker 3: And then then she got out of a car and I went, is this half way? May y'all?

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Speaker 4: I said, is this happening? And I sat there. I said to myself, don't do it, Jenny, Jenny, don't do it.

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Speaker 3: Don't do it.

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Speaker 4: Jenny didn't work. I got out of that fucking car. He's not me, but watch out, how y'all. I went over to her. I said, what's wrong?

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Speaker 2: Baby?

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Speaker 3: She said, I need you to back up. I live south of the boulevard. I can't. I said, okay. I did not hold on. I said, hold on, baby, I said, guess what, Hold on.

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Speaker 4: A minute, hold on, fuck that bitch up, I said, hold on, baby, I.

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Speaker 3: Said, guess what? She said? What I said? We're too beautiful to do this. I said, look at you. You're gorgeous and.

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Speaker 4: So am I I had on my robe and a mask, but I said, look how beautiful you are. I said, girl, we don't.

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Speaker 3: Need to do this. We're fabulous.

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Speaker 4: For two seconds, a smile came on her face, like really, I am beautiful. But she couldn't hold it because she hadn't practiced walking in a joy. So you gotta have it in you to balance it when the bullshit presents itself.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I know that I got.

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Speaker 4: I guess some of that bad bitch skinded rubber. But see, because you gotta love me. But because for those two seconds she became human, I learned, Jenny, this is how you must face it. You must face it with love, darling. Don't fight them. You're sixty five, your titties almost down to your navel. God leave, I'm kidding.

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Speaker 3: I'm so cute. That was a job. This is great.

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Speaker 2: You know I you know I.

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Speaker 4: Look good, honey. You know I know I'm cute my mama. I look good like my mama. My mama was so pretty. But you know, I never I gotta tell y'all, never paid attention to my looks. You know you'll see me on the red car. But I'm very casual. And I say this with great humility. I got so much fucking telling, get fuck out, I look, I'm coming in the room, bitch.

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Speaker 3: I know who I am.

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Speaker 6: Although, can I just say you look matters? Not to throw back to the book, though, but I appreciate this. This the part where you talk about why the afro is so important and every hairstyle that you kind of showcased on Black Ish, because.

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Speaker 3: Listen, but didn't I say that ship, Yes.

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Speaker 5: You said that shites.

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Speaker 3: My hair is the.

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Speaker 4: Only thing on this planet that defies gravity. Good God, Yes, I'm in my fucking hair.

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Speaker 3: Look at my hair. I got out of here with that and these and these. I ain't tend us to God antennas. Look at your hair.

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Speaker 4: It's an intenna for God's fake. It's curly like an antenna. You need your not for hair, so that you can hear and live and.

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Speaker 3: Feel the wisdom of the ages. You think man ain't talking to me. You think Gandhi and and and who else?

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Speaker 2: Did I at all of them?

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Speaker 3: All of them?

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Speaker 2: This is not the first time I heard that.

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Speaker 4: I told y'all, I tug on so journalists skirt when I have to get up sometime and don't want to.

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Speaker 2: I like that.

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Speaker 4: Hear you got a tug on their skirts. Don't pull them too hard.

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Speaker 3: They did not quit, just a little toul.

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Speaker 5: Something, just like.

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Speaker 3: That's just a little bit, Mistruth.

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Speaker 4: Mistruth, I need you this morning, if you will just help me get out of this bed. And she ain't never told me no, Ala.

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Speaker 1: Most show hosts that are interviewers often dream of that segment in their interview in which they ask the question that will really penetrate and break their guests into tears, you know, like the Barbara Walters He's gonna go on.

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Speaker 3: Of course.

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Speaker 1: I think this is the first show in history in which the interviewer like, I've received absolutely everything you said, but I'm still so fucked up about why are you living for other people? I'm still fucked up from what you told me twenty minutes ago that I'm sitting here literally like.

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Speaker 5: They won't die for you. Why are you living?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: But I'm sitting here like, no, you're not gonna cry right now, man, You're not gonna cry on your own goddamn show, Like do.

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Speaker 5: Whatever you want to you is it a black man?

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Speaker 3: Remember?

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Speaker 1: I know, But I'm just like this, this is an anomaly where the host is literally.

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Speaker 2: Just flat. You know.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's maybe it's the day, maybe it's lining. You know, it's also lions Gate. It's it's it's August eleventh.

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Speaker 2: Okay. Yes, I'm very much into Pleatian culture.

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Speaker 1: And what's okay, I'm sorry, I forget tonight.

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Speaker 2: Tonight as of this recording, it's it's a full.

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Speaker 3: Moon, okay.

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Speaker 7: Okay, And especially in this age that we're in, what they call Lionsgate is where the start, the way that the stars aligned in August.

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Speaker 1: This is where this is kind of from from the eighth of August probably until the thirteenth.

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Speaker 2: This week is where.

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Speaker 1: Most people we'll try to manifest or or or bringing their abundance in or they work on getting rid of old habits. So I'm again working on the ladder of getting rid of old habits, you know. And so I'm one that simplifies that.

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Speaker 3: I just you know what I do.

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Speaker 2: What are you doing.

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Speaker 4: I can give the moon a little sugar every night. I send the kids up there. I said, how you doing, baby?

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Speaker 3: You all right?

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Speaker 4: I want to thank you for balancing us out. You're doing all right. And when I go to the toilet, let me tell you what I do. When I'm sitting on the toilet, sometimes I will project myself to the moon ha ha, And I look down on myself. I look down on the United States. I say, where's you know, Ed States? Oh, there it is, Wor's California. Oh there it is, Wor's Los Angeles. There it is, wors There it is. And then I start to laugh.

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Speaker 3: Huh, and I say there I am.

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Speaker 4: Oh there you are, Jenny, Look at you, Look at you laughing? You Okay, So you gotta make friends with fucking Saturn, that bitch up there spinning us.

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Speaker 3: The prettiest bitch out there. Say hello.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes say hello to a tree, thank her for a fucking shade.

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Speaker 3: That's our life too.

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Speaker 4: These bitches stand in the seasons, vulnerable with no leaves, ice and snow coming down on it.

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Speaker 3: And then that bitch bus.

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Speaker 4: The reason she takes in the winter, it's because she knows that spring is coming. So she stands there and winter's alone. Thank you very much. M hm, you'll see it's the seasons. I know about the seasons because depression is seasonal, right. I know about joy because I'm aware to incorporate color into my life. I wish I could show y'all my home.

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Speaker 5: I see the green, I see them, beautiful green, A.

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Speaker 3: Number of colors on my wall. Happy, ain't nothing sad or.

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Speaker 4: Nobody tried to sell me an African mask with the bitch had I said, bitch, I want that ship.

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Speaker 3: In my house.

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Speaker 2: I need people's smile.

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Speaker 4: I want that sad bitch over there. I get that sad bitch off my wall.

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Speaker 3: Ship. Put a bitch up there with some teeth. Fuck out of here. With that, you don't get them sent up and watch sad ass movies.

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Speaker 5: You're gonna get arious.

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Speaker 8: This is what Okay, days after us, Okay, it's all, it's really.

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Speaker 3: What do you feel?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 1: Twenty Both she and I are are January twentieth. Yeah, okay, here's the deal. My ex and I guess this is the first time I'm ignowed. Yes, the look on's face right now.

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Speaker 2: Why he is? Even though Grace and I are very amicable yeah.

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Speaker 3: We okay too, how old?

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Speaker 2: I'm fifty one?

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Speaker 3: All right, new weekend day? You want to day, let's go, let's go, let's go.

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Speaker 5: No, don't kill him. I don't think he's ready.

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Speaker 2: I said, She did say she still did.

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Speaker 3: Y'all are y'all recording from New York?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I'm currently recording in New York right now.

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Speaker 4: Okay, of cuss, I'm gonna call you when I get there. We're gonna go out on the day. Okay to so, y'all leave him alone.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna get him in New York. Y'all leave us alone.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let me get my point out.

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Speaker 5: I'm here.

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Speaker 1: So the one thing for face right now, the one thing that she would always do.

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Speaker 2: That you know, and I've.

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Speaker 1: Been very, uh, extremely clairvoyant on you know, just on what our relationship was, but I did. I was like, okay, what do you feel it's necessary to talk to all the trees on the property and the plants and everything?

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Speaker 3: Just why don't be don't go craze and no, no, no, But.

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Speaker 2: I mean she talked to every tree.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I I was like, okay, well, okay, well we'll acknowledge.

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Speaker 4: Leave alone. Leave alone. Let us talk as many trees as you.

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Speaker 2: But but to hear you say that, I was like, all right, now.

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Speaker 3: No, you can't talk to every motherfucking tree. You can't be crazy. And I'm not putting her down.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, she doesn't talk to every tree.

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Speaker 1: But okay, that's her level, her level of joy and life appreciation. Her whole thing was like in gratitude, like she will say, oh, I love that color of red, I love that, I love that, and I love that, and I love like. She was always in a constant state of gratitude and joy. But there was a point where, like, you know, I'd look at at we we have a large tree in our apartment. I was just like, well, no, I don't know if I'm gonna talk to the tree the way she speaks.

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Speaker 5: So but I just let's see if the tree right.

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Speaker 1: But she yeah, I mean now that you've doubled down on it, now I have a different relationship with the tree inside my house.

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Speaker 3: So well, here's the thing.

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Speaker 4: Whatever you're looking, whatever you're looking at is what and who you are. Who's over in front of you, that's who you are. There's a reflection of yourself, whether it's a tree or a fucking ant. Okay, if it's a fuck, what it is? You know, I just got back from Safari eight eight fucking lioness coming towards me with them fucking claws and paws. I went, okay, damn, but it was me. It was me coming see we see what you know? The beautiful thing about life is you have to be ready to adhere to the music of the symphony that is being played. This, like I said to say, no fucking rehearsal, y'all, this is miles, This is mold art. It is the music that is the answer. The music is the.

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Speaker 3: Pumping of the heart. That's why we when we hear don't.

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Speaker 4: We got to move because that's what's pumping in us. Don't get it twisted. Allow people to be who they are. You have to answer the call and say is that a reflection of me? And if it's not, uh, maybe you got more summers left than me. I don't let no drama in my life no more. There's enough of it outside of my home. Somebody walking my home and don't say this is beautiful, you earned it. I say, I got to go because I don't want.

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Speaker 3: To be with that person.

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Speaker 4: You be nice, be present and be nice and if there's drama, you show got to go.

00:25:43
Speaker 3: I just fired my entire team.

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Speaker 1: I was going to say now that this is going to be completely a life advice episode. How And that's one thing that I had to do. I fired more people in the last year.

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Speaker 9: In competent and I hate I hate I and again that old old Demir is shutting off and I hate confrontation, I hate not manning up.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I run this organization.

00:26:13
Speaker 1: And again I was in the thin line of Hey, I'm everyone's friend.

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Speaker 2: I want people to like me, but I also have to be their boss.

00:26:21
Speaker 1: How do you spring clean your life?

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Speaker 4: You have to pay attention and journal in the morning and at night. What did that kid do today? Is the assistant doing their job. I shouldn't have to go over there and tell you to write that email. Bitch, do your fucking job. All this money I'm paying your ass. The millennials, I love the millennials. They're my heart and soul. But they came up with technology. They don't know anything about social skills and matters. They don't know nothing about manners. You cannot have them. You need young people to work for you. Because you don't have the energy you used to have. You have to be very selective. I have a new assistant. You met her, Cecily. She's loveless, she's smart. My last assistant wanted to lounge. It was like a therapy session. I'm like, nigga, ain't got time to shrink you.

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Speaker 2: It's wrong with you.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna sit up here and shrink you motherfuckers all day.

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Speaker 3: The chef, my little chef hats.

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Speaker 6: I'm about to say you need to put that on a T shirt because I know everybody wants him shrinking.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, wait a minute, a minute, my chef would come in here, that bitch would start drumming.

00:27:37
Speaker 3: I'm like, bitch cooking, lame the fuck out? Are no the chef?

00:27:43
Speaker 4: And then here comes the fucking assistant. For a minute, Here comes the fucking assistant and oh he got in a fight with his lover. Bitch is good to watch it. Write the check too. Come here comes the housekeeper. I said, baby, can you get that brass sink? It's only one in the little powder room.

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Speaker 3: I go in there.

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Speaker 4: That bitch ain't this ship, but put a little comment on that motherfucker.

00:28:17
Speaker 3: I'm like, girl, get yours out of hair.

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Speaker 4: If I've done that women, if I'd done that ship without little Girl, my mother would have threw my ass out the house, show ass out of here. I come from another generation. We don't play. You clean this ship up because what you don't know that I know. If it's your house is dirty, then so are you now back that ass up? You listen to me, You listen to me. This is something my therapist used to tell me. Oh that bitch, but anyway, No, no, I hate that bitch. I've been with it eighty years. No you know, oh you still win her? Okay, the girl the fuck up?

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Speaker 3: I love her.

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Speaker 4: You kidnap bitch, help torch. Yeah, well you's the one, listen. That's the one that wasn't scared. That's why I stayed with that.

00:29:08
Speaker 2: Yeah I was.

00:29:09
Speaker 6: When you finished, I wanted you to ask about how you find your good therapist, because you had you had a point you was making.

00:29:14
Speaker 4: No, that's who who's holding that point? Because it was a good one. All right, somebody remembered. If you don't, we weren't sus. Stay, let me tell you about how therapist. Yeah, my therapist. I raged in a session once and I was screaming so loud. Oh my god, remembering it gives me chills.

00:29:32
Speaker 3: And when I got.

00:29:32
Speaker 4: To the door to leave, I looked at her and I had the tears going out, like I'm really, really really sorry, I mean rage so much.

00:29:48
Speaker 3: She looked at me.

00:29:49
Speaker 4: She said, Jennifer, I see you two times a week. That's two hours. The rest of the time, you got to live with yourself. I wouldn't good, damn live with myself. What a fucking what I paid attention that jumped out? I live with myself. Isn't that something? Now let's see now what is that self? Well, I'll be damned. I don't think I know.

00:30:29
Speaker 3: See, this was early therapy.

00:30:32
Speaker 4: So I wrote, y'all, and I wrote, and I wrote, and I wrote, and I lived.

00:30:37
Speaker 3: I lived on purpose, I experienced.

00:30:40
Speaker 4: I listened. That was a big one for me. I ain't listening to nobody. I'm like, bitch, I know what I'm doing. And then i'd be at the bottom of a grand canyon. I fell almost fell off that motherfucker, the Grand Canyon. I sure did, honey. I went out of Oh honey, I went out on that bluff and a wind came up. I thought I could go out there because I saw another man out there.

00:31:01
Speaker 3: What. Unbeknownst to me, he had his arm around a rock and he was taking a picture. Didn't have no rock, baby.

00:31:10
Speaker 4: When that breeze came up, I slid a flat. You know, you gotta go flat because the ben came. Go you if you're down, baby. My friends were over there talking. They didn't even know shit had happened. I crawled, I crawled back to safety.

00:31:25
Speaker 3: Crawled.

00:31:26
Speaker 2: Wow.

00:31:27
Speaker 3: I was nearly.

00:31:28
Speaker 4: Drowned in the Pacific Ocean when that third wave came and smacked the shit out of me, and I'd have no air in my lungs. I heard a voice, and I was drowning, and I was in shock. I was actually pulled to shore and giving uh whatever it's called CPR and pump water out of me.

00:31:46
Speaker 3: About ten gallons of water came out of me.

00:31:49
Speaker 4: What but our voice came to me as I was being tossed around in that big wave. There was a hurricane off the Baja Mexico and the waves were tall as the Alps that day. And like a damn fool, I went out there on a boogie board, dumb ass. So I heard a big voice come inside of me because I knew it was over.

00:32:13
Speaker 3: I knew I was dead. I had no air.

00:32:18
Speaker 4: And it said, thank you God, I had a great time, and I did, and I was ready to go. That was a huge moment for me. I didn't mind dying because I was having such.

00:32:35
Speaker 3: A good time. And if you gotta go, bitch, go with a smile on your face.

00:32:42
Speaker 4: I was fussing about something on my bike the other day, you know, I cycle. I was, you know, I said, get it out, Jenny, you're on your bike, just get it out. And I started huffing and puffing about some shit. And then I stopped. You see, I Shane and I watched this one. I said to myself, is what happened? Let me give it to you. A big truck went by, and it did. It reminded me of the north Ridge earthquake. See so when that happened, I realized that it could have been an earthquake and I could have died on that bike. There's your five minutes. And I said to myself, you're gonna go down like this? Is that how you're gonna go down? Jenny, huffing and puffing about some bullshit after all the work you've done what if it was five minutes? Silly girl, Now, let's get a smile on your face and pump this heel. But you can't do that if you haven't practiced balance.

00:33:47
Speaker 3: You have to understand. Some shit's coming, y'all.

00:33:49
Speaker 4: The phone's gonna ring, somebody gonna be dead.

00:33:53
Speaker 3: It's coming. It's called life.

00:33:55
Speaker 4: There's a line from The Untouchables with Kevin Costner and Sean Connery when Sean Connery has been stabbed down, near to death, oh, or shot, He looks at Kevin Costner and says, because he's he can't catch his killer. He knows John Connery knows Kevin Costner can go and take care of this man who has shot him. And he looks at Kevin Costner with blood coming out of his mouth, and he says, what.

00:34:26
Speaker 3: Are you prepared to do? What are you prepared for?

00:34:33
Speaker 4: So if you have been prepared and you still using the same fucking ingredients that made you depressed. Instead of some sugar, why don't you put just a little cayenne on it instead of south Why don't you put just a little coup on it? Change the recipe, Change the recipe, baby. But you can't do it if you don't do the groundwork because it won't fill you up. You'll be filled with the same thoughts day after day after day after day. And the last thing I want to say is help somebody. You go help somebody, even if it's helping.

00:35:13
Speaker 3: On an old woman across the street. You know why.

00:35:18
Speaker 4: Uh, it's gonna make you feel good. It'll make you feel good just to do a little good deed every day because it don't cost nothing. Of course, that old woman may stab the ship. I'd even established it. You may shoot.

00:35:33
Speaker 3: I would you know what? Look, I wish I could tell you about the book. The book is so.

00:35:38
Speaker 4: Good I forget about Digmatized, but well, you know thetized. I can't talk about this Dictimized. It's about the con artists, romantic.

00:35:49
Speaker 6: You know, I tell it all, And you told I didn't even know you was the one that told TMZ.

00:35:54
Speaker 4: I was like, I called the next day to get his picture on the air, because I knew if I was in as much pain as I was, what with all the work I've done, I knew what other women would be suffering. And I knew that son of a bitch was still loose. He's in jail now. You know I got to make years eight.

00:36:14
Speaker 5: Thank you for your service.

00:36:15
Speaker 4: Wait listen, y'all, I kept in private own that motherfucker for five years.

00:36:20
Speaker 5: That's as expensive.

00:36:21
Speaker 3: Wow, goddamn straight. What else I'm gonna do with my money?

00:36:24
Speaker 4: But try to help somebody with its?

00:36:27
Speaker 2: What do you still at this stage in your life? Do you still believe in love?

00:36:38
Speaker 1: I believe love is seasonal as far as partners going that sort of thing.

00:36:44
Speaker 3: Look at her, look at me.

00:36:46
Speaker 2: I'm looking at you.

00:36:48
Speaker 3: I believe in love. I believe in love of.

00:36:54
Speaker 2: You.

00:36:54
Speaker 6: Know.

00:36:54
Speaker 3: I gotta tell you some Let me be honest. I live alone. My nephew lives down in the lower level. What the drag, queen was?

00:37:05
Speaker 4: I have a beautiful, little cute dog that has me by the nose. I have loved four men in my life. I was gaged to all.

00:37:14
Speaker 3: Four of them, but I didn't get married.

00:37:19
Speaker 4: Because I didn't want anybody to think that they were in control of me. I'm too I'm too much of an alpha.

00:37:27
Speaker 3: I just am. You don't try what the got me? I get the fuck out here with that. I want to do what I want to do. What I want to do it, I don't want to do it. Until God says that's enough.

00:37:42
Speaker 4: The girls to jass down, and I can go sit down too, because my tarma is instant.

00:37:48
Speaker 3: God, Baby, they'll suck the air out.

00:37:50
Speaker 4: Of my lungs if I if I turn this around to.

00:37:55
Speaker 3: The dark side.

00:37:57
Speaker 4: I have this joke where God is up in heaven and she looks down, she calls she sees me, and then she calls one of her cronies over and she says, you see that one, And the crony says, wait, the one right there. She says, no, the one with the mouth. And then God says to her sister girl, she says, we better get her on our side or we're gonna lose this thing.

00:38:22
Speaker 3: Y'all hear me talking.

00:38:24
Speaker 4: My life is dedicated to the next generation that they have rights to the American dream that I did. I have lived the American dream. I have lived the spectrum. I told one journalist, I've had my day in the sun. Now I am the sun. Call me arrogant, call me anything you want.

00:38:49
Speaker 5: Now that's true, that's true.

00:38:50
Speaker 4: But I ain't doing nothing but trying to lead with love. I really truly am, Like I told y'all. My shit thinks I'm far from perfect. But damn, it feels good to feel this good.

00:39:02
Speaker 3: It really does. I get a little.

00:39:03
Speaker 4: Scared of my joy sometimes because not a lot of people have it, so you feel like, damn.

00:39:10
Speaker 3: Press motherfuckers, but got to guard it.

00:39:13
Speaker 4: That's when I try to help them too, because I know what they're struggling against.

00:39:18
Speaker 1: The see And I actually like the fact that we did an entire episode of Quest of Supreme where we absolutely positively.

00:39:30
Speaker 2: Talked about nothing professional, good, good.

00:39:34
Speaker 1: And you know, and for our listeners, I will hope that you appreciated this as much as we did. But I felt the way the episode was going this is these are gems and pearls of wisdom that I wouldn't get by it just asking what's your favorite movie or you know your your creative process. But I do want to least close with one professional question. You know, I come from a generation in which I guess probably one of the most monumental shows on television the The The Infamacy Word on NBC. I never thought that that show could be topped by a country mile and I was gladly proven wrong because you know the way that you guys, in these eight years on Blackish have conquered almost every I mean, you've conquered almost every taboo subject that I don't think any other, including good time, like you know, it's some precedent in it now that it's over, and I knew that you can't stop.

00:41:03
Speaker 2: Are there any professional.

00:41:08
Speaker 1: Endeavors or in an itch that you want to scratch that you have yet to do?

00:41:17
Speaker 8: Not?

00:41:17
Speaker 3: Really, they know, not really?

00:41:20
Speaker 2: No, I mean, yeah, it took me tim to read your entire resume.

00:41:24
Speaker 4: So I'm going to tell you why. You know, Kenya Barris offered me my own show. I'm beyonest with you. I don't want to work that hard. I want I want to travel and enjoy myself.

00:41:39
Speaker 5: Thank you for that honesty too. Oh oh no, honey.

00:41:42
Speaker 4: If they had offered to me when I was forty, I would have been.

00:41:44
Speaker 3: Oh hey, yeah, but.

00:41:46
Speaker 4: No, no, no, I'm sixty five and no, no, no, no. I know the work it takes to be the star of a show. Although I know Lawrence, I loved working with him, and he and I would have been brilliant on a show called Oldish.

00:42:01
Speaker 2: But and I'm glad you guys got married. At the end.

00:42:04
Speaker 3: I love yeah, I love them.

00:42:06
Speaker 4: But listen with his schedule and mind and COVID. COVID was the thing that really stopped it. But I was not willing to work that hard anymore. Even the new series. I'm on, I love that for you. I am the third lead and I like that. Just let a nigga come in and say one line, take the shit over.

00:42:29
Speaker 3: And go home. Yes, that's all right, Leave me the fuck alone. I ain't got it.

00:42:34
Speaker 4: I don't need two lines, bitch to steal the whole guy. That a bitch come in and go home and send a cabbage anyway.

00:42:40
Speaker 5: So I'm just saying, these are definitions of freedom.

00:42:44
Speaker 3: People are y'all listening it? It is freedom. Let me tell you something. And I love my freedom.

00:42:50
Speaker 4: I loved eating when I want to eat as much as I want to eat, ar it's little I want to eat without somebody saying you're gonna.

00:42:57
Speaker 3: Eat all that. Motherfucker.

00:43:02
Speaker 5: Yo.

00:43:03
Speaker 4: I'm standing on a ship between with the hold on a minute, with.

00:43:10
Speaker 3: The moon coming up on my left. I'm standing at the bow of the ship.

00:43:17
Speaker 4: The moon is rising on my left and the sign is setting on my right, and I'm standing there.

00:43:23
Speaker 3: In the arms of the car on my way to Komodo.

00:43:27
Speaker 4: Island to hang out with the with the motherfuckers over there, the prehistoric mothers.

00:43:35
Speaker 3: I love myself.

00:43:38
Speaker 4: You think I'm gonna have somebody come out of the presidential suite and stay to me through the French doors that he had difficulty opening.

00:43:50
Speaker 3: You ready to go eat?

00:43:58
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, girl, I have I've worked myself out of the game, and that's all right with me. I'm sixty five. I don't need all that, honey, with that sex addiction. I've had enough sex to get me through eighteen lifetime.

00:44:12
Speaker 5: Are you ain't through?

00:44:15
Speaker 3: Oh?

00:44:15
Speaker 2: No, all right, you already know sheen hardy through.

00:44:18
Speaker 7: Yeah.

00:44:18
Speaker 5: I wanted to hear say it.

00:44:19
Speaker 3: Wait, man, I will tell you this.

00:44:21
Speaker 4: Ha motherfucker better come in here and look and sound like Obama if he's coming.

00:44:27
Speaker 3: I don't want nothing less. Fuck you get.

00:44:29
Speaker 2: Out, manifested. Yeah, your mouth to God's ears.

00:44:33
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, a whole bunch of Obamas for all of us.

00:44:36
Speaker 4: I gotta tell y'all. I gotta tell y'all something. I love life, I love people. I love making them laugh. I've been making them laugh since I was five years old. We gonna be all right if we stand as the people.

00:44:55
Speaker 3: Do you understand.

00:44:57
Speaker 2: We have to.

00:45:00
Speaker 4: We have to love each other and be kind to each other. We are so fragile. We are fragile creatures, we are, but we are so powerful. Be kind to your bodies. Look at what you're putting inside of it. See it as a temple.

00:45:23
Speaker 3: It is yours. So are you got? Are you take care of it so you can enjoy.

00:45:30
Speaker 4: And maybe one day you'll be in the Himalayans, and one day maybe you'll be at petra H. Go on and live and live well. Leave people alone. Stop trying to change people all that dumb shit. When you find your life. This morning, I had an interview and then we couldn't get on the zoom and it was MSNBC. That's important. I don't like to be late, and I was just getting ready to just go off, like what the you know?

00:45:57
Speaker 3: But guess what I said? Be still all right? They'll wait. You can't.

00:46:07
Speaker 4: The party can't start for you until you get there. And if you're in a hurry, you will be rude. So don't be in a hurry. Leave a little, give a little extra time so you don't run people off the road, and ship pay attention right down. Shit like I'm gonna drive safe today. I'm gonna be careful that I don't hit a car that's got children in it because I'm mad at somebody or because I'm drunk.

00:46:36
Speaker 3: You watch your step in this world.

00:46:39
Speaker 4: It's a beautiful planet and you had a black president act like it.

00:46:45
Speaker 1: Two turns, motherfucking drop, Jennifer Lewis, Ladies and gentlemen, this thank you so much. This was my personal top three episodes a Quest of Supreme. I've spoken the least of all these episodes. I asked no questions on my interview list like I need this episode. I thank you that this was beyond my expectations. So just know that we're going to have to have you back on the show eventually talk about her that week because I would like to actually hear of of your canon and and your journey, because this is also a resume like yours is unprecedented, and you know I want to celebrate that.

00:47:35
Speaker 2: No, thank you very much, my pleasure.

00:47:37
Speaker 1: Uh and on behalf of fan Tickeelow and Laya and Sugar Steve and Unpaid Bill.

00:47:43
Speaker 2: You guys missed a monster this episode.

00:47:47
Speaker 1: We will see you on the next go round of Quest Love Supreme, Ladies and gentlemen, I'm gonna grab me a tition because I need. What's Supreme is the production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.