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April 14, 2024

Facing Fears

Facing Fears

Get back on the horse! Or in the water.

What are you afraid of, reasonably or unreasonably? And what can help combat that? Hypnosis? Exposure therapy? Flooding? Guidance? In episode 27 of Spirit Levels we use Jenny’s fear of sharks as a case study, meeting with Will Salter, a man who came eye to eye with a great white shark when surfing; Lola Broomhall, a freediver and breathwork practitioner, and hypnotist Jeremy Walker.


Lola Broomhall: breathwork, physio, freediving workshops, professional mermaiding!

Hey, if you like the tune that’s playing near the beginning, when Jenny and Frank are talking about fear, that’s ‘Summer of Sad’ by Salty Lips.

St Andrews Beach Community Choir sang the ‘Don’t Be Scared of the Ocean’ refrain and are based on the Mornington Peninsula.

The Summit AI coach Jenny used (free!)

Hypnotist Jeremy Walker

A wonderful story about freediving by Michael Adams in the Australian Review of Books.

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