327 - Should I Read from a Script on My Podcast?

0:04 Good morning podcasting morning chat. Today is Tuesday, June 24th, 2025 and today we're tackling an age-old podcasting dilemma. Script or no script, especially now that video is in play, we'll unpack how to sound natural, engaging in camera ready without losing your message. So if you're listening live on Clubhouse, hit the share button, bottom left hand side of the screen and share it. However, Clubhouse lets you. And if you're listening via podcast, please share this episode with a fellow podcaster. And now give us about 30 seconds and we'll get things rolling. Thanks for being here. Good morning again podcasting.

1:22 Morning, Jeff. Thanks so much for being here. I am your host Mark Ronick, and on stage with me currently we have producer Ashley Feller, Nick Nullback, Dr. Faye, Sid Meadows, and Jonathan Howard. Good to see the gang this morning and thanks to those of you listening or watching live. If you are watching on YouTube, we're sharing that link here on Clubhouse and also in the show notes for future reference. If you want to come join us live on YouTube, and you can always find me at 7:00 AM Eastern Tuesday through Friday over the summer over on YouTube at Markronic MARCRONICK.

2:05 So today, yeah, we've got a mailbag question about scripts. No scripts, how to use them if you're gonna, other options if you're not. There's a camp of podcasters out there that really rely on scripts and well, we'll get into it in a minute. I don't want to give away the whole question right now. First, however, all right now, as I've shared, I've got a little button work today and I'm not always great with the buttons, but I got it right this time. We're going to start this morning to kick off our week with a little trivia every once in a while. And it's and it's been a while since I've brought out the trivia game and I've updated it with the help of ChatGPT. So this is I call digital creator showdown. Well, ChatGPT called it that, let's be honest. Everyone get your Chili Peppers ready ready to. Go Oh, that's right.

3:06 If you're on Clubhouse to raise your hand, you now have to use the chili pepper icon. That's right. Although I'm going to actually, I was going to say grab a volunteer, but I'm just going to pick somebody. So Nick, you're on the hot seat for Digital Creator Showdown the 2025 edition. What you get to do, Nick, is pick your level of difficulty from medium, I'm sorry, easy, medium, hard. And if you want, you can go elite mode. And like I said, this is created by ChatGPT with a little guidance from me, but it's definitely more more ChatGPT than it is Mark Ronic.

3:49 So with that, what level of difficulty? Nick, good morning. Good morning. That sucks because I don't even know what kinds of questions these are. Going to they're just going to be, they're going to be pick, you know, from a menu of a through DI believe and it'll be all about content creation. Let's let's just go hard. Let's go hard, go hard. All right, let's do it. Here we go with Digital Creator Showdown 2025 appropriately. Here's an AI question for you Nick. Which AI powered writing platform added brand voice cloning in early 2025, allowing teams to match tone across all content types?

4:34 This is a really hard one to start, but I'll give you your choices. Jasper, Notion copy or Grammarly Go. Now this wouldn't have been the ones I would have added, but these are your choices. I'm. Going to go with Grammarly just because I know they've been doing a lot in the the AI space now. All right, let's see if you're right. Sorry, the answer is Jasper. In early 2025, Jasper rolled out its Advanced Brand Voice Cloning tool, allowing marketing teams and creators to train the AI on their brand tone, voice and language to ensure consistency across blogs, emails, ads and more.

5:17 I didn't even know that they were still around. I mean, I know that they're like the OG when it comes to AI, but I thought that they had because I hadn't heard about them in a very long time so I didn't really realize they were still around. Yeah, it's. Funny, in my mind I was thinking like they would have already had something like that because that was their whole platform was basically like creative marketing content. I I just assumed that they already had that well before 2025. Yep. Well, I'm glad to see that they're at least trying to keep up. And it's funny how a lot of these OGAIS are kind of almost forgotten because there's so many new AI tools. In my opinion, that's probably why. But yeah, Jasper is still around. OK, we're going to go to the next question. And by the way, Nick, you can always phone a friend. And Speaking of friends, we've got another friend on stage. Amanda Sharp has joined us this morning. Good morning to Amanda.

6:18 All right, Nick, true or false? As of 2025, Meta's Creator Studio has been fully merged into Meta Business Suite and no longer exists as a stand alone tool. True or false? I haven't been keeping up with meta as much. Has anybody else been keeping their eye on this? I might find a friend. Nick's going to phone a friend who would like to help Nick. True or false? Metas Creator Studio Studio has fully merged into Meta Business Suite and no longer exists as a stand alone tool. No one's going to help Nick. I'm. I'm sitting on my I'm sitting on my chili pepper. I'm not.

7:01 I'm not volunteering. I'm sitting on that. That's a quote that we need to isolate, I think. OK. Go ahead, Jonathan. I'm sitting on my chili pepper, Nick. I'm going to say it's true. I think. All right, John. I don't use either of them. So. Oh. OK, so you're going to take his Nick or are you going to go on your own? Let's go with it. True. Lock it in. All right, locked in. Let's see if he's right. Correct. In 2025, according to ChatGPT, Meta officially retired Creator Studio, fully merging its functionality into the Meta Business Suite. This move streamlined content scheduling, performance, performance insights and monetization tools into one centralized hub for Facebook and Instagram creators.

7:48 All right, ready for more, Nick? Here's question 3. This is multiple choice which video editing platform launched an AI powered script to video feature in 2025. This is really hard that lets you turn text into full social videos with transitions, voice over and B roll. This is really hard, but let's see here are your choices. Pictory descript Lumen 5 or runway? What say you? I That's a tough one. Let's go with Pictori. Pictori All right, we're locking in a Pictori and the correct answer?

8:33 Bingo. In 2025, Pictori, a company admittedly I don't know about, took a major leap by launching an AI script to video feature. You type a script and it auto generates a full video with transitions, B roll captions and even AI voice over. Perfect for marketers, Youtubers, and course creators who want to skip the editing grind. All right, we got two more questions, Nick. This next one is a true or false in 2025. TikTok allows creators to natively schedule posts up to 30 days in advance using the mobile app. What's your answer?

9:14 True or false? Amanda. Oh, he's phoning a friend, Amanda. True or false? TikTok allows creators my resident. TikTok Yeah, resident TikTok expert. What do you say, Amanda? Do you want to hear the question again? Please please. Talk allows creators to natively schedule posts up to 30 days in advance using their mobile app. You don't see I have TikTok studio but I don't really use it. I'm going to say false, which means it's probably true. Nick, what are you going with? Let's go. I I trusted Jonathan. We got it right. So we're trusting Amanda. We're saying false. All right, funny, both people admitting they don't use the product that we're talking about, but Nick's going anyway with Amanda.

10:02 On the desktop. But only on the desktop. OK here. Yeah, you know what? Amanda was right. False is the correct answer. TikTok only allows native post scheduling via the desktop web app, not the mobile. While third party tools offer scheduling hacks, TikTok still limits native scheduling to desktop and only up to 10 days in advance. All right, one more question and then we're going to our mailbag this morning. Question 5. Which of these tools released a 2025 feature called Smart Cut, which automatically removes filler words and Dead Space from video content? Is it veed dot IO cap cut descript or Adobe Premiere Rush? Now these are almost all these I know Nick is very familiar with at the at the least would say you Nick. Yeah.

11:02 I don't think it's Adobe Rush because I don't believe they've really put out anything new or significant to that app in years. I don't think it's cap cut, but I haven't used it in a little bit. It was descript and what was the other one Veed? Yes. I'm going to go with can't be descript because the script calls it something else. I'm going to go with Veed. You're going with veed Yeah, I was going to say probably not cap cut. We'll we'll find out the answer in a second. Probably not cap cut because cap cut, you know, when TikTok went away for a hot minute, so did cap cut and cap cut took a lot longer to come back. And I don't know, I just I feel like that's maybe even a feature that they already had.

11:43 So the answer according to this, which you see now, I think ChatGPT is wrong, but it says Descript, Descript Smart. And maybe Ashley who uses Descript can tell us the what we think about this. It says here Descript smart cut is the 2025 upgrade that automatically removes pauses, stumbles, and Dead Space. But I know that they've been doing this for a long time. I'll go on from video and audio content, it's become a favorite for podcasters, video editors and course creators, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So Ashley, is this true? Is there something called smart cut that's relatively new to descript as far as you know?

12:24 It does that, but I'm not sure if that's actually the name of it. That's. Yeah, I'm going to tell it. We'll have to see. We'll have to go to the judges. I'm going to have to tell it I think it's wrong and see what it says. So Nick got a game is rigged. Yeah, I think it's rigged. You're right, three out of five according to ChatGPT and its answer. So we'll come back to this trivia a little more frequently. I like kicking things off a little light hearted like this. So thank you for playing along, Nick. And then let and if anybody ever wants to play at any point, just call it out. I'm happy to go back to it and play the game today if you'd like. OK, so today let me pull up the mailbag here. We've got a question from Olivia Jay in Tampa, FL says here. I just relaunched my podcast.

13:17 Previously I was not doing video, only audio. I'm now incorporating the video. Previously I would write out a script and then read it for the show, but just wanted to find out how others are doing it. Do you read a script or do you have bullet points and a rough structure and then talk freely within that? Just worried that reading a script sounds like I'm reading so less natural conversation style and not sure if that's if that translates so well on video because I'm not looking at camera. I am, however, better at conveying my message through writing and find it harder to talk freely, if that makes sense. Olivia, that makes a lot of sense. It makes sense to me and I resonate with that. I feel like I can write a lot better than I can talk on the fly.

14:12 And of course, that's because when we're writing, we have time to sit, pause, think about it, can, you know, make any changes, go back and forth. So, yeah, I mean, I get that. And I often think that when I'm just talking off the cuff that I'm going to forget certain, you know, key points, etcetera. So I feel that. And I'm sure there are a lot of podcasters that feel the same way, that maybe you're making the transition from audio to video. And I think it's an important topic for us to get into. So let me ask everybody, what do you do? Yeah, OK. DRI saw your pepper, saw you raised your pepper. So.

14:54 Yes, I'm no longer sitting on my chili pepper. What do you do? OK, Well, other than practice, practice, practice, practice. Other than that, I mean there are teleprompters that she can get. There is also like this, there's an app called Big View BIGVU that has like a teleprompter inside the app and you can stream, you can record, you can do everything that you want to. And it has that feature where, you know, if you if you look elsewhere, it looks like your eyes are still pointed at the camera. And yeah, really just practice.

15:39 I know it feels really, really uncomfortable the first five times, but after that fifth time it starts to feel like you got it. And yeah, I appreciate that. And the teleprompters in itself can be a challenge because it's easy to look like you're reading still, right? It almost there's it's almost because I'm working on this myself. You almost have like a blank stare if you're not careful. You got to look animated. You got to really feel the words that you're saying that are going across the screen because you can quickly look like you're reading even though you're looking dead at the camera. Dr. What do you personally do? I know that your show, it's been a little bit of a struggle to get it out, but you have recorded a couple of episodes and what's your plan or what have you done so far as far as scripting?

16:30 Do you just go off the cuff? Do you have an outline? What do you do? Well, a lot of it is knowing the subject really, really, really well, as though you're having a conversation with a friend. And if you put it in that respect, it's just a conversation with a friend. You're, you're at a cafe, you're having a muffin. So you're, you know, if, if you put it in that respect, I think that it would carry you further than anything else. By the way, I'm in the kitchen. Oh, OK, go make some eggs. I was just having a conversation with my wife about that because she's actually starting to think about showing up on social media herself for, I don't want to say necessarily for her business, for her side hustle, I'll call it.

17:19 She's a transformational life coach and she's feeling a real calling to start putting content out there. And she's quite nervous. And that was the same advice I gave her was think like when you're recording it, just think that you're recording a video message for your best friend. And I named her best friend and that instantly. I mean, is she still nervous about it? Yes. Did it ease things up for her? Absolutely. Once she was thinking about it like that, like, Oh yeah, I could just record a video and just think I'm talking right to her and that that just Jarred something for her in a good way. It it got her thinking, yeah, OK, I could do that. That makes more sense to me. I know a lot of people have their Peppers up.

18:01 I can't, we can't keep saying that. It just sounds ridiculous. But I'm going to go to Jonathan 'cause I just looked down and saw his hand go up. So go for it, Jonathan. Well, I was just going to say, you know, that, you know, somebody who helps coaches show up on social media just in case I do. But also tell her to put a picture of that person actually right behind her camera lens so that she focuses on that person and looks in the camera lens, and also practice in the mirror a few times before she does it. Yeah. I was just thinking, that's a great suggestion. Jonathan put in that picture on the other side so that you actually feel like you're looking. And I was thinking it would be kind of cool if you had your best friend shoot some video just pretending that they're listening to you, just kind of staring at the camera, maybe looking away a few times and then looking back and nodding their head. And they're, you know, the guy, the original guy from Blue's Clues was doing that for a while. I don't know if he's still doing that and was going viral with it where he you just, you know why when you're on your scroll, all of a sudden you land on him.

19:07 And I saw that so interesting. Yeah, he just sits there. And listens. Social social experiment. Really interesting. Yeah, people were eating it up. I don't know if they're. He's still doing it. Sid, thank you for patiently waiting. What did you want to add to all this? Good morning everybody. When I do a solo episode, I have a script. I work really hard to do some ad libbing and things in it while I'm reading it so that you don't really realize that I'm reading it. And I honestly think I do a pretty good job that you don't really realize that I'm reading it. And for the camera, I have two screens and I pulled the script over in front of the camera. So it's on the same screen as the camera so that when I'm reading the script, I'm actually looking at the monitor, which means I'm looking at the camera And I, you can't minimize zoom. So I push the screen, the the recording to the other screen so that I don't see myself.

20:07 So that's kind of what I do with it. I guess you can call it a. A low key hack to move the script in front of the camera so that I'm talking to the camera. Yeah, if you don't have a teleprompter, that's your, your next best thing is a monitor that's got a camera either built into it or hanging or attached to it. Yeah, that helps you stay looking at the camera and still read at the same time. And I have a question for you, Sid, about practice. How many? How often are you rehearsing it? Is it a once over read? Are you actually reading out loud multiple times? Like what? What does that look like? So it's a really great question. So typically the solo episodes is a repurpose of a blog that I wrote for an industry magazine or article that I wrote for an industry magazine.

20:54 And so I'll put the script into my podcast folder and then I'll print it and then I'll read it out loud. I'll highlight or circle words that seem weird when I'm speaking or that's not necessarily what I would say when I'm speaking. It might be what I say when I write. And so I circle it and then I go and change the word. So typically, Mark, I'm only doing it one time, but I'm reading it out loud to myself to see how it sounds and any words or phrases that might be weird. If I need to take a pause, I'll like put a couple of dashes in the sentence or something like that so that I will pause at it.

21:37 So and sometimes I'll change a few words. So I am trying to make it in the script version more like me versus what might be printed in the magazine. I love that. Thank you, Sid. I love so many parts of what you shared there. And because I do it too, and I guess maybe that's why, but I'd, I love to include notes on my script or cues on my scripts where, yeah, like I'll highlight, I'll bold and italicize a word that I really or words that I really want to emphasize, right. Or I'll put in parentheses a little direction like pause, or if I don't put the word pause in parentheses, I'll just put a lot of dots or dashes.

22:25 And that really helps me take that breath and allow the listener to take in what I've just said for a second. Because it's easy when you have a script just to roll right through it. So having those cues on there I think are really important. Sid, did you want to add something else? Just making sure. Sorry, was I off mic? No, but I just saw your pepper come up again, so. Oh. It did so Oh no sorry, I was putting my phone in my. Pocket. Because I'm on my walk. So sorry about. That no problem. No problem, Dr. Go ahead. Yeah. And you know, this might be a good time to bring up an alternative that if you do feel that your eyes are pointed down towards the script or you're not doing any, you know, basically eye candy for the camera. How about putting in some B roll for those times? You know that that would be something that you would do on post, but it would break up the, IT would break up the monotony of someone just looking down or wherever your script is. Absolutely.

23:26 And you know this works well for scripted things like intros and outros. Certainly if your whole show is scripted, you're not going to run B roll on it the whole time. But yeah, this is a common trick, for lack of a better word, hack, for lack of a better word that people do all the time in TV as well. If there is a quote UN quote mess up or if you are looking away from the camera when you're supposed to be looking toward it, covering it up with footage or B roll is a perfect way of hiding that 100%. And I'm going to share another one. And if anybody wants to oh, Ashley, then I'm going to wait for a second and go to Ashley. Ashley, what do?

24:08 What do you want to suggest? Good morning. I'd like to suggest bullet points. I think once you figure out what you're going to be speaking about, list that topic in bullet point format. ChatGPT can help you with this, I've done it. And also when you're talking to the camera, remember to talk through the camera. If you focus your eyes in the upper right quadrant of the lens, you'll look more natural. Another thing is to don't feel like you have to get it in the first take. If you feel like you have a lot of information to convey, feel free to speak a little bit, stop and then pick up again. And you can use your editing to put it all together and make it more seamless.

24:55 Because if you have a lot of information, you might not get it all in there and it might seem awkward. So don't don't feel like you have to get it all at 1 take. That's awesome. I love that all of that. Thank you. Especially the what area of the camera to look into. It does make a difference. You can tell a difference where your eyes are angled. And Speaking of eyes being angled, if you're somebody who uses Riverside, somebody who uses Descript, just two examples, they have that eye correction, that AI eye correction capability now where if you are looking away, it will adjust your eyes so that it looks like you are looking front and center. I've only tried that and really only for testing purposes. I've tried that with Riverside.

25:44 It worked pretty well. And if you're somebody like me who has smaller eyes, I think it's a little, it doesn't work as well. Me and my small little eyes don't always look like they're open, even when they are, especially when I smile. I'm looking at myself right now and yeah, it's, it's a quality I don't love. I wish my eyes were a little more wide open just because of the software, really just 'cause I want the eye correcting software. Yeah, so, but that does work really well for a lot of people and highly recommended. And there are lots of apps that do that too. I think Cap Cut does that as well.

26:26 But Riverside, I like that because it's again really working to be an all in one solution so I can record, edit, make corrections like eye corrections, and do other cool things with that kind of software. So I recommend Riverside as an alternative too. But I really think the whole rehearsing thing is a big one. I still fall into the trap of trying to avoid it 'cause I just want to get it done. I was doing this yesterday. I made five pieces of short form videos. Really short and sweet videos. And I was like, oh, I can do this. This is no problem because each video was literally like 10 seconds or so.

27:10 And I was like, I can do this no problem. Didn't rehearse and I kept messing up my lines. I just kept stumbling over the words. It's because I'm not used to saying them out loud all together and thinking about the fact that I'm reading from this script. It's your, your mind, you're playing tricks on your mind almost because it's doing a lot of different things at once. So taking the time to sit there and read it out loud as if you're on camera. And I tend to like to do it without hitting record. Doing those rehearsals, it's less pressure to me. So I'll just sit there, look at the camera. I'll have the camera on so it looks like I'm recording. And I'll just practice the lines multiple times. And then all of a sudden when I'm hitting record, it's very natural. I'm not reading as intensely because I've now kind of muscle memoried it.

28:02 And then I can feel more natural, more comfortable. The words come out a lot more cleanly and I'm not stumbling. So I really, honestly, I know it takes a few more minutes, but I would say if you could spend even 5 minutes reading through the script out loud several times, however many times you can do it in 5 minutes, I think that will serve you really well. Especially if you're also working with bullet points like Ashley was talking about too. When you have bullet points and you go through those out loud a few times, it helps you for the real thing. You won't forget as much. I talked about that earlier. Sometimes I feel like when I'm off the cuff, I'm going to forget something really important to say. So if I have bullet points, if I practice those bullet points a few times and then I go live or I hit record with those bullet points on my screen, it makes a huge difference for me. I start to remember more because again, you're doing less thinking.

29:05 Now you've practiced, you've created some muscle memory and then your brain can kind of be a little more free and remember some things that maybe wouldn't have because you're so focused on getting it right and reading the words correctly. I hope that made sense. All right, anybody else have? Yes, it go ahead. So I also think Jonathan had his pepper up. Another tip, if you will, is if you have an area of expertise, something that you specialize in, so Jonathan, social media, you know, Nick AI, Amanda TikTok, write whatever it might be rather than script it and even do the bullet points. A lot of times experts have a really great knack at responding to questions off the cuff.

29:53 So write yourself out five to seven questions and no answers and just answer the questions like, you know, intro the show and then say what you're doing and, you know, answer the question as if somebody was asking you the question on the other side of the screen. But there's nobody there, right? And a lot of times experts, people that are have expertise in certain things, will do a really good job at answering those questions off the cuff. I like that one, Sid. Thank you. And I was thinking about that, like, how does this apply for an interview style podcast? And boom, you've just given us a great, great way to practice for those and feel like and when you're recording, make it feel and seem more natural. I love that idea.

30:40 Thank you, Sid. Jonathan, did you have something? I did. I had a couple things, one of which was exactly what Sid just said, because myself and Mimi kind of do a very similar thing. She asked me questions of the whatever the topic is. I ask her questions going back and forth and we just that's kind of our script is what questions we're going to ask. And then we answer the question because we both know what we're, we're talking about on our side of, you know, things. So whenever it's something that she specializes in, I'll ask her the questions and, and vice versa. And it works really, really well. The next one was for those that are, whether you're scripting or not, there's a couple things you want to make sure you're doing.

31:21 One of which is allowing yourself to talk with your hands because it's natural and when people sit on their hands, they get automatically stiffer and more uncomfortable on camera. So allow yourself to talk with your hands and then with the eye contact. Remember, you never want to be looking down at your audience and you never want to be looking up at your audience. So because looking up at your audience makes you look small, looking down at your audience makes you look like you're belittling them. So keep that camera lens right at eye level. Thank you, Jonathan. And talking with your hands. I really appreciate that one. First of all, that's probably because I am a hand talker, naturally.

32:03 And it's also a great strategy because it does keep people engaged. If you are sitting and looking stiff like you're talking about, if you're sitting on your hands, as you say, there's less going on on the screen. And yeah, you look stiff, which could turn someone off who's watching. Sure, but also with that hand motions, if you're watching on YouTube, you see me flailing my arms around, that really helps keep people focused. It keeps people looking at you at the screen. Something's happening on there, and subconsciously it's going to keep them zeroed in on what you have to say. So I love that. Thank you, Jonathan.

32:44 Yeah, go ahead, Ashley. I just wanted to go back to the bullet point thing and remembering what information you want to convey. And that is sort of think of it as when you go to sing karaoke. If you're singing a song that you know and you don't really need to look at the words, you're going to have a whole lot more passion and accuracy. Well, maybe not accuracy, but passion and better delivery when you're singing that song versus if it's a song maybe you're not that familiar with, you've just heard it maybe in and your friend begs you to go sing it with them. You know your performance might not be so confident. So when you're practicing your bullet points, think of that as learning the lyrics to your favorite song that you want to perform at karaoke, and that might help.

33:28 Yeah, confidence. That's the word that I thought about when preparing for today's show and then had completely forgotten. So thank you for bringing that up. That is a huge thing, especially with the rehearsal as well. Yeah, if you know your stuff, even though maybe you are an expert in this, it still gets a little scary and feels a little different when you're doing sometimes when you're doing it as a podcast, right? So if you're rehearsing and practicing, you're going to sound way more confident about the things that you're saying that are on your screen. That's such a an important piece to it. That confidence is contagious and it's noticeable. OK, with that, let's see here, let's recap some some strategy, some thoughts.

34:14 It sounds like a lot of us for the most part aren't using scripts. But Sid is right for certain things, not for his interviews per SE. I mean, he has his questions, but he's mainly using scripts sounds like for his intros. But yeah, what we're talking about here is things like bullet points or an outline, practicing. If you're going to use a script, practice, practice, practice. That helps with your eye contact. And if you are still not looking at the screen enough, there are tools like the script in Riverside that you can use. And we never talked about teleprompters. I use the Elgato teleprompter, which is it's an investment for a lot of people, including myself. I think last I saw it was somewhere around 300 bucks. It's an investment and I love it. It is also a second monitor for me when I'm using it. When I'm not using it for a script for recording content, I'm using it as a second monitor. Often times putting something off onto my teleprompter because it sits right next to my regular monitor. Put something off to the side that I am looking at while also working.

35:27 Maybe it's from notes, maybe it's a spreadsheet, etcetera. I have that that two monitor capability as well. But as far as teleprompters goes, it's great if you have a powerful computer, it also has that ability to the teleprompter moves with you. So as you talk, each word that's on the screen that you're saying out loud will light up and it will let much like karaoke, right? Each word lights up, but it goes based on your own pace, which is really awesome. I love that because I find that if you just set it to scroll, at least for me, I find that I'm racing to catch up with it and it doesn't feel natural anymore.

36:12 So having a feature where it's actually listening to you and moving the teleprompter with you, like maybe you'd see on an award show, that's how it would work. They manually are scrolling that teleprompter for the people that are reading and presenting each award. All right, off topic real quick. Ashley, you're a musician and I like to ask musicians this, especially when they bring up karaoke, Are you a fan of karaoke or not? Because I find that most musicians aren't, at least the ones in my circle. Ashley. Oh, I call, I call it karaoke. So, so it, it depends. It depends on how much I've been drinking, I suppose.

36:53 Well yes, I agree with you there after a few drinks. I'm all about karaoke before a few drinks. I really want to do karaoke and I'm terrified. So yeah, I get it's karaoke. I love that Dr. Not a fan of karaoke? Oh my gosh, You know, I lived in Japan and that's where the whole phenomena started. And of course, over there they pronounce it karaoke. Karaoke. And, you know, I was a singer in Japan, so I refused to do any kind of karaoke because it made what I did for a living a little less special.

37:36 And it was just kind of a mind thing that I just, you know, unless I have a band behind me or someone playing an instrument behind me and I, I refused to do cut it, OK. And everyone would, oh, come on, you're a singer. You can do it. You know what? No, it just, it just makes what I do it. It's not everyone can do what I used to do so well, you know, so I decided, no, I'm just not going to do it. And I still haven't done it till this day. Dr. When are we going to get our hands on a recording of you singing something? I mean, we could always do it live, but I want some actual recordings. I have one. I cut her.

38:16 I cut something with my dad right before he passed. He backed me up on his saxophone and and I I sang. OK, I do have that. I'll I'll send it to you. Will and and can we play it on the show? Yeah. OK. Yeah. OK. To be continued then. OK awesome. Well, Tamar. Yes, Sid. I think you only played on the show after she completes launching her podcast. See that could work, but I'm wondering if like, does she really care if I play it on the podcast or not? No, I don't care. Yeah, that's what I was worried about. We need a stronger, a tastier carrot to dangle to get her to do that. One of these days, Dr. We're putting you back in the hot seat and we're going to figure out how to launch this show of yours.

39:07 OK, it's coming. It's coming. It's really close. I don't think anyone on this stage believes you. I know it's going to be within the next 5 weeks. OK, OK. She said it within the next 5 weeks. Let's mark it down. Producer Ashley, please mark that down. Please find out when that is and then we will be following up once a week leading up to that. Dr. So sorry about that. All right, listen, gang, we're going to end a little earlier than normal this morning. I don't want to, pardon the pun, for Clubhouse. I don't want to pepper us with too many different topics. I know we do that from time to time when we dig into the mailbag. But this time, I think between our trivia game and between the script question, I think we're good. So we're going to come back tomorrow, 7:00 AM Eastern, live on Clubhouse, live on YouTube, and we're covering all the headlines around the world of podcasting and content creation. So come join us so you can stay in the know on top of all of the ongoings, the events, the different things happening in the world of podcasting.

40:15 So until tomorrow, make it a great day. Everybody take care.