327 - Should I Read from a Script on My Podcast?

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Good morning podcasting morning
chat.

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Today is Tuesday, June 24th,
2025 and today we're tackling an

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age-old podcasting dilemma.
Script or no script, especially

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now that video is in play, we'll
unpack how to sound natural,

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engaging in camera ready without
losing your message.

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So today, yeah, we've got a
mailbag question about scripts.

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No scripts, how to use them if
you're gonna, other options if

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you're not.
There's a camp of podcasters out

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there that really rely on
scripts and well, we'll get into

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it in a minute.
I don't want to give away the

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whole question right now.
First, however, all right now,

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as I've shared, I've got a
little button work today and I'm

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not always great with the
buttons, but I got it right this

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time.
We're going to start this

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morning to kick off our week
with a little trivia every once

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in a while.
And it's and it's been a while

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since I've brought out the
trivia game and I've updated it

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with the help of ChatGPT.
So this is I call digital

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creator showdown.
Well, ChatGPT called it that,

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let's be honest.
Everyone get your Chili Peppers

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ready ready to.
Go Oh, that's right.

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If you're on Clubhouse to raise
your hand, you now have to use

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the chili pepper icon.
That's right.

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Although I'm going to actually,
I was going to say grab a

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volunteer, but I'm just going to
pick somebody.

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So Nick, you're on the hot seat
for Digital Creator Showdown the

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2025 edition.
What you get to do, Nick, is

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pick your level of difficulty
from medium, I'm sorry, easy,

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medium, hard.
And if you want, you can go

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elite mode.
And like I said, this is created

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by ChatGPT with a little
guidance from me, but it's

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definitely more more ChatGPT
than it is Mark Ronic.

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So with that, what level of
difficulty?

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Nick, good morning.
Good morning.

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That sucks because I don't even
know what kinds of questions

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these are.
Going to they're just going to

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be, they're going to be pick,
you know, from a menu of a

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through DI believe and it'll be
all about content creation.

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Let's let's just go hard.
Let's go hard, go hard.

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All right, let's do it.
Here we go with Digital Creator

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Showdown 2025 appropriately.
Here's an AI question for you

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Nick.
Which AI powered writing

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platform added brand voice
cloning in early 2025, allowing

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teams to match tone across all
content types?

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This is a really hard one to
start, but I'll give you your

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choices.
Jasper, Notion copy or Grammarly

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Go.
Now this wouldn't have been the

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ones I would have added, but
these are your choices.

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I'm.
Going to go with Grammarly just

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because I know they've been
doing a lot in the the AI space

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now.
All right, let's see if you're

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right.
Sorry, the answer is Jasper.

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In early 2025, Jasper rolled out
its Advanced Brand Voice Cloning

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tool, allowing marketing teams
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their brand tone, voice and
language to ensure consistency

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across blogs, emails, ads and
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I didn't even know that they
were still around.

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I mean, I know that they're like
the OG when it comes to AI, but

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I thought that they had because
I hadn't heard about them in a

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very long time so I didn't
really realize they were still

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around.
Yeah, it's.

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Funny, in my mind I was thinking
like they would have already had

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something like that because that
was their whole platform was

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basically like creative
marketing content.

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I I just assumed that they
already had that well before

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2025.
Yep.

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Well, I'm glad to see that
they're at least trying to keep

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up.
And it's funny how a lot of

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these OGAIS are kind of almost
forgotten because there's so

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many new AI tools.
In my opinion, that's probably

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why.
But yeah, Jasper is still

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around.
OK, we're going to go to the

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next question.
And by the way, Nick, you can

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always phone a friend.
And Speaking of friends, we've

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got another friend on stage.
Amanda Sharp has joined us this

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morning.
Good morning to Amanda.

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All right, Nick, true or false?
As of 2025, Meta's Creator

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Studio has been fully merged
into Meta Business Suite and no

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longer exists as a stand alone
tool.

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True or false?
I haven't been keeping up with

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meta as much.
Has anybody else been keeping

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their eye on this?
I might find a friend.

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Nick's going to phone a friend
who would like to help Nick.

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True or false?
Metas Creator Studio Studio has

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fully merged into Meta Business
Suite and no longer exists as a

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stand alone tool.
No one's going to help Nick.

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I'm.
I'm sitting on my I'm sitting on

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my chili pepper.
I'm not.

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I'm not volunteering.
I'm sitting on that.

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That's a quote that we need to
isolate, I think.

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OK.
Go ahead, Jonathan.

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I'm sitting on my chili pepper,
Nick.

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I'm going to say it's true.
I think.

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All right, John.
I don't use either of them.

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So.
Oh.

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OK, so you're going to take his
Nick or are you going to go on

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your own?
Let's go with it.

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True.
Lock it in.

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All right, locked in.
Let's see if he's right.

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Correct.
In 2025, according to ChatGPT,

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Meta officially retired Creator
Studio, fully merging its

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functionality into the Meta
Business Suite.

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This move streamlined content
scheduling, performance,

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performance insights and
monetization tools into one

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centralized hub for Facebook and
Instagram creators.

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All right, ready for more, Nick?
Here's question 3.

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This is multiple choice which
video editing platform launched

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an AI powered script to video
feature in 2025.

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This is really hard that lets
you turn text into full social

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videos with transitions, voice
over and B roll.

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This is really hard, but let's
see here are your choices.

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Pictory descript Lumen 5 or
runway?

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What say you?
I That's a tough one.

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Let's go with Pictori.
Pictori All right, we're locking

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in a Pictori and the correct
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Bingo.
In 2025, Pictori, a company

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admittedly I don't know about,
took a major leap by launching

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an AI script to video feature.
You type a script and it auto

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generates a full video with
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even AI voice over.
Perfect for marketers,

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Youtubers, and course creators
who want to skip the editing

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grind.
All right, we got two more

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questions, Nick.
This next one is a true or false

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in 2025.
TikTok allows creators to

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natively schedule posts up to 30
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app.
What's your answer?

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True or false?
Amanda.

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Oh, he's phoning a friend,
Amanda.

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True or false?
TikTok allows creators my

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resident.
TikTok Yeah, resident TikTok

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expert.
What do you say, Amanda?

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Do you want to hear the question
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Please please.
Talk allows creators to natively

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schedule posts up to 30 days in
advance using their mobile app.

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You don't see I have TikTok
studio but I don't really use

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it.
I'm going to say false, which

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means it's probably true.
Nick, what are you going with?

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Let's go.
I I trusted Jonathan.

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We got it right.
So we're trusting Amanda.

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We're saying false.
All right, funny, both people

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admitting they don't use the
product that we're talking

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about, but Nick's going anyway
with Amanda.

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On the desktop.
But only on the desktop.

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OK here.
Yeah, you know what?

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Amanda was right.
False is the correct answer.

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TikTok only allows native post
scheduling via the desktop web

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app, not the mobile.
While third party tools offer

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scheduling hacks, TikTok still
limits native scheduling to

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desktop and only up to 10 days
in advance.

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All right, one more question and
then we're going to our mailbag

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this morning.
Question 5.

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Which of these tools released a
2025 feature called Smart Cut,

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which automatically removes
filler words and Dead Space from

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video content?
Is it veed dot IO cap cut

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descript or Adobe Premiere Rush?
Now these are almost all these I

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know Nick is very familiar with
at the at the least would say

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you Nick.
Yeah.

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I don't think it's Adobe Rush
because I don't believe they've

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really put out anything new or
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years.
I don't think it's cap cut, but

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I haven't used it in a little
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It was descript and what was the
other one Veed?

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Yes.
I'm going to go with can't be

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descript because the script
calls it something else.

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I'm going to go with Veed.
You're going with veed Yeah, I

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was going to say probably not
cap cut.

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We'll we'll find out the answer
in a second.

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Probably not cap cut because cap
cut, you know, when TikTok went

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away for a hot minute, so did
cap cut and cap cut took a lot

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longer to come back.
And I don't know, I just I feel

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like that's maybe even a feature
that they already had.

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So the answer according to this,
which you see now, I think

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ChatGPT is wrong, but it says
Descript, Descript Smart.

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And maybe Ashley who uses
Descript can tell us the what we

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think about this.
It says here Descript smart cut

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is the 2025 upgrade that
automatically removes pauses,

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stumbles, and Dead Space.
But I know that they've been

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doing this for a long time.
I'll go on from video and audio

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content, it's become a favorite
for podcasters, video editors

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and course creators, blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah.

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So Ashley, is this true?
Is there something called smart

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cut that's relatively new to
descript as far as you know?

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It does that, but I'm not sure
if that's actually the name of

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it.
That's.

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Yeah, I'm going to tell it.
We'll have to see.

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We'll have to go to the judges.
I'm going to have to tell it I

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think it's wrong and see what it
says.

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So Nick got a game is rigged.
Yeah, I think it's rigged.

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You're right, three out of five
according to ChatGPT and its

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answer.
So we'll come back to this

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trivia a little more frequently.
I like kicking things off a

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little light hearted like this.
So thank you for playing along,

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Nick.
And then let and if anybody ever

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wants to play at any point, just
call it out.

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I'm happy to go back to it and
play the game today if you'd

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like.
OK, so today let me pull up the

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mailbag here.
We've got a question from Olivia

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Jay in Tampa, FL says here.
I just relaunched my podcast.

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Previously I was not doing
video, only audio.

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I'm now incorporating the video.
Previously I would write out a

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script and then read it for the
show, but just wanted to find

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out how others are doing it.
Do you read a script or do you

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have bullet points and a rough
structure and then talk freely

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within that?
Just worried that reading a

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script sounds like I'm reading
so less natural conversation

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style and not sure if that's if
that translates so well on video

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because I'm not looking at
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I am, however, better at
conveying my message through

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writing and find it harder to
talk freely, if that makes

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sense.
Olivia, that makes a lot of

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sense.
It makes sense to me and I

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resonate with that.
I feel like I can write a lot

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better than I can talk on the
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And of course, that's because
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to sit, pause, think about it,
can, you know, make any changes,

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go back and forth.
So, yeah, I mean, I get that.

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I'm going to forget certain, you
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So I feel that.
And I'm sure there are a lot of

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podcasters that feel the same
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the transition from audio to
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And I think it's an important
topic for us to get into.

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So let me ask everybody, what do
you do?

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Yeah, OK.
DRI saw your pepper, saw you

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raised your pepper.
So.

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Yes, I'm no longer sitting on my
chili pepper.

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What do you do?
OK, Well, other than practice,

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practice, practice, practice.
Other than that, I mean there

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are teleprompters that she can
get.

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There is also like this, there's
an app called Big View BIGVU

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that has like a teleprompter
inside the app and you can

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stream, you can record, you can
do everything that you want to.

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And it has that feature where,
you know, if you if you look

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elsewhere, it looks like your
eyes are still pointed at the

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camera.
And yeah, really just practice.

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I know it feels really, really
uncomfortable the first five

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times, but after that fifth time
it starts to feel like you got

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it.
And yeah, I appreciate that.

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And the teleprompters in itself
can be a challenge because it's

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easy to look like you're reading
still, right?

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It almost there's it's almost
because I'm working on this

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myself.
You almost have like a blank

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stare if you're not careful.
You got to look animated.

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You got to really feel the words
that you're saying that are

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going across the screen because
you can quickly look like you're

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reading even though you're
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Dr. What do you personally do?
I know that your show, it's been

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a little bit of a struggle to
get it out, but you have

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recorded a couple of episodes
and what's your plan or what

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have you done so far as far as
scripting?

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Do you just go off the cuff?
Do you have an outline?

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What do you do?
Well, a lot of it is knowing the

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subject really, really, really
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conversation with a friend.
And if you put it in that

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respect, it's just a
conversation with a friend.

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You're, you're at a cafe, you're
having a muffin.

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So you're, you know, if, if you
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that it would carry you further
than anything else.

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By the way, I'm in the kitchen.
Oh, OK, go make some eggs.

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I was just having a conversation
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she's actually starting to think
about showing up on social media

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herself for, I don't want to say
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for her side hustle, I'll call
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She's a transformational life
coach and she's feeling a real

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calling to start putting content
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And she's quite nervous.
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gave her was think like when
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that you're recording a video
message for your best friend.

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And I named her best friend and
that instantly.

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I mean, is she still nervous
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Yes.
Did it ease things up for her?

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Once she was thinking about it

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like that, like, Oh yeah, I
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just think I'm talking right to
her and that that just Jarred

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something for her in a good way.
It it got her thinking, yeah,

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OK, I could do that.
That makes more sense to me.

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I know a lot of people have
their Peppers up.

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I can't, we can't keep saying
that.

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It just sounds ridiculous.
But I'm going to go to Jonathan

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'cause I just looked down and
saw his hand go up.

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So go for it, Jonathan.
Well, I was just going to say,

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you know, that, you know,
somebody who helps coaches show

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up on social media just in case
I do.

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But also tell her to put a
picture of that person actually

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right behind her camera lens so
that she focuses on that person

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and looks in the camera lens,
and also practice in the mirror

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a few times before she does it.
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I was just thinking, that's a
great suggestion.

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Jonathan put in that picture on
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actually feel like you're
looking.

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And I was thinking it would be
kind of cool if you had your

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best friend shoot some video
just pretending that they're

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listening to you, just kind of
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looking away a few times and
then looking back and nodding

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their head.
And they're, you know, the guy,

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the original guy from Blue's
Clues was doing that for a

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while.
I don't know if he's still doing

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that and was going viral with it
where he you just, you know why

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when you're on your scroll, all
of a sudden you land on him.

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And I saw that so interesting.
Yeah, he just sits there.

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And listens.
Social social experiment.

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Really interesting.
Yeah, people were eating it up.

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I don't know if they're.
He's still doing it.

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Sid, thank you for patiently
waiting.

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What did you want to add to all
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Good morning everybody.
When I do a solo episode, I have

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a script.
I work really hard to do some ad

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libbing and things in it while
I'm reading it so that you don't

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really realize that I'm reading
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And I honestly think I do a
pretty good job that you don't

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really realize that I'm reading
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And for the camera, I have two
screens and I pulled the script

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over in front of the camera.
So it's on the same screen as

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the camera so that when I'm
reading the script, I'm actually

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looking at the monitor, which
means I'm looking at the camera

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And I, you can't minimize zoom.
So I push the screen, the the

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recording to the other screen so
that I don't see myself.

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So that's kind of what I do with
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I guess you can call it a.
A low key hack to move the

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script in front of the camera so
that I'm talking to the camera.

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Yeah, if you don't have a
teleprompter, that's your, your

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next best thing is a monitor
that's got a camera either built

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into it or hanging or attached
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Yeah, that helps you stay
looking at the camera and still

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read at the same time.
And I have a question for you,

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Sid, about practice.
How many?

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How often are you rehearsing it?
Is it a once over read?

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Are you actually reading out
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Like what?
What does that look like?

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So it's a really great question.
So typically the solo episodes

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is a repurpose of a blog that I
wrote for an industry magazine

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or article that I wrote for an
industry magazine.

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And so I'll put the script into
my podcast folder and then I'll

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print it and then I'll read it
out loud.

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I'll highlight or circle words
that seem weird when I'm

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speaking or that's not
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when I'm speaking.
It might be what I say when I

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write.
And so I circle it and then I go

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and change the word.
So typically, Mark, I'm only

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doing it one time, but I'm
reading it out loud to myself to

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see how it sounds and any words
or phrases that might be weird.

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If I need to take a pause, I'll
like put a couple of dashes in

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the sentence or something like
that so that I will pause at it.

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So and sometimes I'll change a
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So I am trying to make it in the
script version more like me

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versus what might be printed in
the magazine.

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I love that.
Thank you, Sid.

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I love so many parts of what you
shared there.

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And because I do it too, and I
guess maybe that's why, but I'd,

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I love to include notes on my
script or cues on my scripts

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where, yeah, like I'll
highlight, I'll bold and

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italicize a word that I really
or words that I really want to

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emphasize, right.
Or I'll put in parentheses a

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little direction like pause, or
if I don't put the word pause in

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parentheses, I'll just put a lot
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And that really helps me take
that breath and allow the

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listener to take in what I've
just said for a second.

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Because it's easy when you have
a script just to roll right

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through it.
So having those cues on there I

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think are really important.
Sid, did you want to add

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something else?
Just making sure.

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Sorry, was I off mic?
No, but I just saw your pepper

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come up again, so.
Oh.

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It did so Oh no sorry, I was
putting my phone in my.

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Pocket.
Because I'm on my walk.

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So sorry about.
That no problem.

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No problem, Dr. Go ahead.
Yeah.

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And you know, this might be a
good time to bring up an

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alternative that if you do feel
that your eyes are pointed down

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towards the script or you're not
doing any, you know, basically

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eye candy for the camera.
How about putting in some B roll

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for those times?
You know that that would be

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something that you would do on
post, but it would break up the,

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IT would break up the monotony
of someone just looking down or

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wherever your script is.
Absolutely.

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And you know this works well for
scripted things like intros and

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outros.
Certainly if your whole show is

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scripted, you're not going to
run B roll on it the whole time.

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But yeah, this is a common
trick, for lack of a better

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word, hack, for lack of a better
word that people do all the time

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in TV as well.
If there is a quote UN quote

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mess up or if you are looking
away from the camera when you're

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supposed to be looking toward
it, covering it up with footage

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or B roll is a perfect way of
hiding that 100%.

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And I'm going to share another
one.

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And if anybody wants to oh,
Ashley, then I'm going to wait

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for a second and go to Ashley.
Ashley, what do?

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What do you want to suggest?
Good morning.

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I'd like to suggest bullet
points.

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I think once you figure out what
you're going to be speaking

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about, list that topic in bullet
point format.

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ChatGPT can help you with this,
I've done it.

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And also when you're talking to
the camera, remember to talk

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through the camera.
If you focus your eyes in the

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upper right quadrant of the
lens, you'll look more natural.

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Another thing is to don't feel
like you have to get it in the

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first take.
If you feel like you have a lot

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of information to convey, feel
free to speak a little bit, stop

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and then pick up again.
And you can use your editing to

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put it all together and make it
more seamless.

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Because if you have a lot of
information, you might not get

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it all in there and it might
seem awkward.

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So don't don't feel like you
have to get it all at 1 take.

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That's awesome.
I love that all of that.

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Thank you.
Especially the what area of the

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camera to look into.
It does make a difference.

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You can tell a difference where
your eyes are angled.

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And Speaking of eyes being
angled, if you're somebody who

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uses Riverside, somebody who
uses Descript, just two

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examples, they have that eye
correction, that AI eye

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correction capability now where
if you are looking away, it will

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adjust your eyes so that it
looks like you are looking front

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and center.
I've only tried that and really

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only for testing purposes.
I've tried that with Riverside.

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It worked pretty well.
And if you're somebody like me

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who has smaller eyes, I think
it's a little, it doesn't work

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as well.
Me and my small little eyes

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don't always look like they're
open, even when they are,

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especially when I smile.
I'm looking at myself right now

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and yeah, it's, it's a quality I
don't love.

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I wish my eyes were a little
more wide open just because of

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the software, really just 'cause
I want the eye correcting

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software.
Yeah, so, but that does work

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really well for a lot of people
and highly recommended.

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And there are lots of apps that
do that too.

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I think Cap Cut does that as
well.

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But Riverside, I like that
because it's again really

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working to be an all in one
solution so I can record, edit,

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make corrections like eye
corrections, and do other cool

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things with that kind of
software.

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So I recommend Riverside as an
alternative too.

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But I really think the whole
rehearsing thing is a big one.

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I still fall into the trap of
trying to avoid it 'cause I just

450
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want to get it done.
I was doing this yesterday.

451
00:26:56,080 --> 00:27:00,520
I made five pieces of short form
videos.

452
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:05,480
Really short and sweet videos.
And I was like, oh, I can do

453
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,040
this.
This is no problem because each

454
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,360
video was literally like 10
seconds or so.

455
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,000
And I was like, I can do this no
problem.

456
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,520
Didn't rehearse and I kept
messing up my lines.

457
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,440
I just kept stumbling over the
words.

458
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,200
It's because I'm not used to
saying them out loud all

459
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,040
together and thinking about the
fact that I'm reading from this

460
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,400
script.
It's your, your mind, you're

461
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,720
playing tricks on your mind
almost because it's doing a lot

462
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,920
of different things at once.
So taking the time to sit there

463
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,760
and read it out loud as if
you're on camera.

464
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,560
And I tend to like to do it
without hitting record.

465
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,080
Doing those rehearsals, it's
less pressure to me.

466
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,520
So I'll just sit there, look at
the camera.

467
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,640
I'll have the camera on so it
looks like I'm recording.

468
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,760
And I'll just practice the lines
multiple times.

469
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,680
And then all of a sudden when
I'm hitting record, it's very

470
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,720
natural.
I'm not reading as intensely

471
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,040
because I've now kind of muscle
memoried it.

472
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,480
And then I can feel more
natural, more comfortable.

473
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:10,280
The words come out a lot more
cleanly and I'm not stumbling.

474
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:14,040
So I really, honestly, I know it
takes a few more minutes, but I

475
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,960
would say if you could spend
even 5 minutes reading through

476
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,480
the script out loud several
times, however many times you

477
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:25,680
can do it in 5 minutes, I think
that will serve you really well.

478
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,240
Especially if you're also
working with bullet points like

479
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:33,800
Ashley was talking about too.
When you have bullet points and

480
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:38,960
you go through those out loud a
few times, it helps you for the

481
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,760
real thing.
You won't forget as much.

482
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,400
I talked about that earlier.
Sometimes I feel like when I'm

483
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,560
off the cuff, I'm going to
forget something really

484
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,960
important to say.
So if I have bullet points, if I

485
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:55,560
practice those bullet points a
few times and then I go live or

486
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,480
I hit record with those bullet
points on my screen, it makes a

487
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:04,280
huge difference for me.
I start to remember more because

488
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:05,680
again, you're doing less
thinking.

489
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:10,680
Now you've practiced, you've
created some muscle memory and

490
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,600
then your brain can kind of be a
little more free and remember

491
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,600
some things that maybe wouldn't
have because you're so focused

492
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,000
on getting it right and reading
the words correctly.

493
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,600
I hope that made sense.
All right, anybody else have?

494
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,400
Yes, it go ahead.
So I also think Jonathan had his

495
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,480
pepper up.
Another tip, if you will, is if

496
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,720
you have an area of expertise,
something that you specialize

497
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:41,240
in, so Jonathan, social media,
you know, Nick AI, Amanda

498
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,640
TikTok, write whatever it might
be rather than script it and

499
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,160
even do the bullet points.
A lot of times experts have a

500
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,840
really great knack at responding
to questions off the cuff.

501
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:59,640
So write yourself out five to
seven questions and no answers

502
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:03,120
and just answer the questions
like, you know, intro the show

503
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,880
and then say what you're doing
and, you know, answer the

504
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,080
question as if somebody was
asking you the question on the

505
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,880
other side of the screen.
But there's nobody there, right?

506
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,560
And a lot of times experts,
people that are have expertise

507
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,160
in certain things, will do a
really good job at answering

508
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:23,200
those questions off the cuff.
I like that one, Sid.

509
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,440
Thank you.
And I was thinking about that,

510
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:30,200
like, how does this apply for an
interview style podcast?

511
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,480
And boom, you've just given us a
great, great way to practice for

512
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,280
those and feel like and when
you're recording, make it feel

513
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,400
and seem more natural.
I love that idea.

514
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,040
Thank you, Sid.
Jonathan, did you have

515
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:44,640
something?
I did.

516
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,320
I had a couple things, one of
which was exactly what Sid just

517
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:51,560
said, because myself and Mimi
kind of do a very similar thing.

518
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,120
She asked me questions of the
whatever the topic is.

519
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,280
I ask her questions going back
and forth and we just that's

520
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,560
kind of our script is what
questions we're going to ask.

521
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,040
And then we answer the question
because we both know what we're,

522
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,880
we're talking about on our side
of, you know, things.

523
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,880
So whenever it's something that
she specializes in, I'll ask her

524
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,560
the questions and, and vice
versa.

525
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:12,800
And it works really, really
well.

526
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:17,720
The next one was for those that
are, whether you're scripting or

527
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,320
not, there's a couple things you
want to make sure you're doing.

528
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,320
One of which is allowing
yourself to talk with your hands

529
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,760
because it's natural and when
people sit on their hands, they

530
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:33,120
get automatically stiffer and
more uncomfortable on camera.

531
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,480
So allow yourself to talk with
your hands and then with the eye

532
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,400
contact.
Remember, you never want to be

533
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,040
looking down at your audience
and you never want to be looking

534
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,880
up at your audience.
So because looking up at your

535
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,080
audience makes you look small,
looking down at your audience

536
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,960
makes you look like you're
belittling them.

537
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,200
So keep that camera lens right
at eye level.

538
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:57,200
Thank you, Jonathan.
And talking with your hands.

539
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,920
I really appreciate that one.
First of all, that's probably

540
00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:02,440
because I am a hand talker,
naturally.

541
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,840
And it's also a great strategy
because it does keep people

542
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,720
engaged.
If you are sitting and looking

543
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,800
stiff like you're talking about,
if you're sitting on your hands,

544
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,040
as you say, there's less going
on on the screen.

545
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,600
And yeah, you look stiff, which
could turn someone off who's

546
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,800
watching.
Sure, but also with that hand

547
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,080
motions, if you're watching on
YouTube, you see me flailing my

548
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,920
arms around, that really helps
keep people focused.

549
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,000
It keeps people looking at you
at the screen.

550
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,760
Something's happening on there,
and subconsciously it's going to

551
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,320
keep them zeroed in on what you
have to say.

552
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,920
So I love that.
Thank you, Jonathan.

553
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,680
Yeah, go ahead, Ashley.
I just wanted to go back to the

554
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,200
bullet point thing and
remembering what information you

555
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,400
want to convey.
And that is sort of think of it

556
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:58,240
as when you go to sing karaoke.
If you're singing a song that

557
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,960
you know and you don't really
need to look at the words,

558
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,480
you're going to have a whole lot
more passion and accuracy.

559
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:08,880
Well, maybe not accuracy, but
passion and better delivery when

560
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,200
you're singing that song versus
if it's a song maybe you're not

561
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,760
that familiar with, you've just
heard it maybe in and your

562
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,600
friend begs you to go sing it
with them.

563
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,520
You know your performance might
not be so confident.

564
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:23,160
So when you're practicing your
bullet points, think of that as

565
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,680
learning the lyrics to your
favorite song that you want to

566
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,360
perform at karaoke, and that
might help.

567
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,160
Yeah, confidence.
That's the word that I thought

568
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,760
about when preparing for today's
show and then had completely

569
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,320
forgotten.
So thank you for bringing that

570
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,680
up.
That is a huge thing, especially

571
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:43,520
with the rehearsal as well.
Yeah, if you know your stuff,

572
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,080
even though maybe you are an
expert in this, it still gets a

573
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,640
little scary and feels a little
different when you're doing

574
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,280
sometimes when you're doing it
as a podcast, right?

575
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,600
So if you're rehearsing and
practicing, you're going to

576
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,760
sound way more confident about
the things that you're saying

577
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:02,080
that are on your screen.
That's such a an important piece

578
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,120
to it.
That confidence is contagious

579
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:11,199
and it's noticeable.
OK, with that, let's see here,

580
00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:14,719
let's recap some some strategy,
some thoughts.

581
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,280
It sounds like a lot of us for
the most part aren't using

582
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,639
scripts.
But Sid is right for certain

583
00:34:21,639 --> 00:34:24,040
things, not for his interviews
per SE.

584
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,600
I mean, he has his questions,
but he's mainly using scripts

585
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:31,040
sounds like for his intros.
But yeah, what we're talking

586
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:35,760
about here is things like bullet
points or an outline,

587
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,440
practicing.
If you're going to use a script,

588
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,719
practice, practice, practice.
That helps with your eye

589
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,120
contact.
And if you are still not looking

590
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,080
at the screen enough, there are
tools like the script in

591
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,520
Riverside that you can use.
And we never talked about

592
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,040
teleprompters.
I use the Elgato teleprompter,

593
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,720
which is it's an investment for
a lot of people, including

594
00:34:58,720 --> 00:35:01,120
myself.
I think last I saw it was

595
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:06,560
somewhere around 300 bucks.
It's an investment and I love

596
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,560
it.
It is also a second monitor for

597
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:13,280
me when I'm using it.
When I'm not using it for a

598
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,840
script for recording content,
I'm using it as a second

599
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,800
monitor.
Often times putting something

600
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,720
off onto my teleprompter because
it sits right next to my regular

601
00:35:22,720 --> 00:35:24,600
monitor.
Put something off to the side

602
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,160
that I am looking at while also
working.

603
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,920
Maybe it's from notes, maybe
it's a spreadsheet, etcetera.

604
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,640
I have that that two monitor
capability as well.

605
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,200
But as far as teleprompters
goes, it's great if you have a

606
00:35:39,720 --> 00:35:44,920
powerful computer, it also has
that ability to the teleprompter

607
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:49,760
moves with you.
So as you talk, each word that's

608
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,040
on the screen that you're saying
out loud will light up and it

609
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,760
will let much like karaoke,
right?

610
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,920
Each word lights up, but it goes
based on your own pace, which is

611
00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:02,440
really awesome.
I love that because I find that

612
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:07,880
if you just set it to scroll, at
least for me, I find that I'm

613
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,360
racing to catch up with it and
it doesn't feel natural anymore.

614
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,000
So having a feature where it's
actually listening to you and

615
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:19,600
moving the teleprompter with
you, like maybe you'd see on an

616
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,280
award show, that's how it would
work.

617
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:25,920
They manually are scrolling that
teleprompter for the people that

618
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,000
are reading and presenting each
award.

619
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,960
All right, off topic real quick.
Ashley, you're a musician and I

620
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,680
like to ask musicians this,
especially when they bring up

621
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,600
karaoke, Are you a fan of
karaoke or not?

622
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,680
Because I find that most
musicians aren't, at least the

623
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,680
ones in my circle.
Ashley.

624
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:49,960
Oh, I call, I call it karaoke.
So, so it, it depends.

625
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,080
It depends on how much I've been
drinking, I suppose.

626
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,400
Well yes, I agree with you there
after a few drinks.

627
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,960
I'm all about karaoke before a
few drinks.

628
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,760
I really want to do karaoke and
I'm terrified.

629
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,360
So yeah, I get it's karaoke.
I love that Dr. Not a fan of

630
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:10,480
karaoke?
Oh my gosh, You know, I lived in

631
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:14,160
Japan and that's where the whole
phenomena started.

632
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:19,520
And of course, over there they
pronounce it karaoke.

633
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,080
Karaoke.
And, you know, I was a singer in

634
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:29,960
Japan, so I refused to do any
kind of karaoke because it made

635
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:34,520
what I did for a living a little
less special.

636
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:41,480
And it was just kind of a mind
thing that I just, you know,

637
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,560
unless I have a band behind me
or someone playing an instrument

638
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,680
behind me and I, I refused to do
cut it, OK.

639
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,760
And everyone would, oh, come on,
you're a singer.

640
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:51,920
You can do it.
You know what?

641
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,360
No, it just, it just makes what
I do it.

642
00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:03,520
It's not everyone can do what I
used to do so well, you know, so

643
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,920
I decided, no, I'm just not
going to do it.

644
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,560
And I still haven't done it till
this day.

645
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,840
Dr. When are we going to get our
hands on a recording of you

646
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,240
singing something?
I mean, we could always do it

647
00:38:13,240 --> 00:38:15,440
live, but I want some actual
recordings.

648
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:16,840
I have one.
I cut her.

649
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,840
I cut something with my dad
right before he passed.

650
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:24,200
He backed me up on his saxophone
and and I I sang.

651
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,960
OK, I do have that.
I'll I'll send it to you.

652
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,400
Will and and can we play it on
the show?

653
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:30,760
Yeah.
OK.

654
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:31,600
Yeah.
OK.

655
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,920
To be continued then.
OK awesome.

656
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:37,880
Well, Tamar.
Yes, Sid.

657
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,440
I think you only played on the
show after she completes

658
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:47,480
launching her podcast.
See that could work, but I'm

659
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,680
wondering if like, does she
really care if I play it on the

660
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,800
podcast or not?
No, I don't care.

661
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,080
Yeah, that's what I was worried
about.

662
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:59,000
We need a stronger, a tastier
carrot to dangle to get her to

663
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,640
do that.
One of these days, Dr. We're

664
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,520
putting you back in the hot seat
and we're going to figure out

665
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:06,680
how to launch this show of
yours.

666
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:08,800
OK, it's coming.
It's coming.

667
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,080
It's really close.
I don't think anyone on this

668
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,480
stage believes you.
I know it's going to be within

669
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,280
the next 5 weeks.
OK, OK.

670
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,280
She said it within the next 5
weeks.

671
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,800
Let's mark it down.
Producer Ashley, please mark

672
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,960
that down.
Please find out when that is and

673
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:30,360
then we will be following up
once a week leading up to that.

674
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:35,360
Dr. So sorry about that.
All right, listen, gang, we're

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going to end a little earlier
than normal this morning.

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I don't want to, pardon the pun,
for Clubhouse.

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I don't want to pepper us with
too many different topics.

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I know we do that from time to
time when we dig into the

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mailbag.
But this time, I think between

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our trivia game and between the
script question, I think we're

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good.
So we're going to come back

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tomorrow, 7:00 AM Eastern, live
on Clubhouse, live on YouTube,

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and we're covering all the
headlines around the world of

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podcasting and content creation.
So come join us so you can stay

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in the know on top of all of the
ongoings, the events, the

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different things happening in
the world of podcasting.

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So until tomorrow, make it a
great day.

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Everybody take care.