April 6, 2026

489. The Podcast Money Leak You’re Missing

489. The Podcast Money Leak You’re Missing

The podcast money leak you’re missing might not be where you think, and once we see it, it changes how we look at everything. In this episode, we unpack how small, unnoticed habits are quietly draining money from our podcasts, from forgotten subscriptions to untracked expenses and scattered income streams. As the conversation unfolds, we realize the issue isn’t that we’re careless, it’s that most of us were never given a simple system to actually see what’s happening. But when we step back and start paying attention, even for just a few minutes each week, the patterns become clear and the leaks start to surface. By the end, we walk away with a more intentional way to manage our podcast finances so we can stop losing money and start making smarter decisions with what we already have.

Episode Highlights:

[01:51] Movie Chat Project Hail Mary

[03:59] Podcast Evaluation Invite

[05:32] Roadcaster Duo Giveaway Preview

[07:03] Creators Losing Money

[07:50] Money System Self Check

[10:36] Why Tracking Breaks Down

[12:47] Overwhelm and Separation

[18:10] Taxes and Donation Wording

[19:14] Tools for Every Stage

[21:28] What Everyone Uses

[25:42] How to Enter Giveaway

[26:54] Giveaway Entry Boosts

[27:48] Mic Compatibility Q&A

[29:07] Bonus Coaching Offer

[30:30] Money Review Framework

[32:33] John Overwhelm Talk

[37:15] LLC Setup Pitfalls

[43:14] Estimated Taxes Debate

[46:59] Profit First Pay Yourself

[51:08] Wrap Up And Next Show

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Good morning, podcasting,
morning chat.

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Today is my wife's birthday,
April 6th, 2026.

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And today creators are losing
serious money behind the scenes.

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And Ralph Estep breaks down why
it's happening and the

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surprising simple fix that can
turn it around fast.

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Plus, how you can win his duo.
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Good morning again podcasting
morning chat.

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Thank you so much for being
here.

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I am your host Mark Ronik and
currently on stage with me we

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have Dr. Fay, Ralph Estep, Sid
Meadows, Alex Baelish and also

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Nikki AKA Tide from our audience
is on stage with us again today.

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Welcome everyone in a shout out
to Dave, Tim and John in the

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clubhouse audience this morning.
Thanks for being here and I hope

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everyone who celebrates had a
great Easter weekend.

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We were just chatting before the
show that Sid got to see Project

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Hail Mary, which I saw a couple
weeks ago now and I loved it.

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Sid, you said you liked it, but
you had gripes about the book or

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as far as how it compared?
So I did enjoy the movie quite a

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bit, but some of the differences
between the movie and the book

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were very interesting because I
had to explain to my wife who

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never who has not read the book,
some of the things that were

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happening in the movie because
the movie did not explain some

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of the things that really should
have been explained.

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So that's really kind of my
gripe about the.

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Gotcha.
See.

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Yeah, it's funny because
somebody who didn't read the

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book, I didn't feel lost, right?
Like I got it.

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But yeah, I could see.
I think that's always a

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challenge when you read a book
first is then you have the whole

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image, the the whole movie in
your head.

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And then if it doesn't compare,
it can kind of fall short for

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you, At least for some people
anyway.

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Yeah.
So here's a question.

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Here's a question for you.
Yeah.

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And then we can move on.
Sorry.

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No, let's.
Do it.

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Did you know how long he was in
a coma and why he was in a coma?

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No.
That's an important aspect from

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the book, right?
And did you know, do you know

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what project Mel Harry was?
A project Hail Mary was about.

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Well I knew it was about and
this is no spoiler is because

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this is shared in the trailers,
but it's about saving the the

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sun and saving the earth
ultimately.

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Correct.
But they didn't really tell you

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about that in the movie.
So if you hadn't seen the

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trailer, they didn't really tell
you why Project Hail Mary

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existed.
So those were a couple of Mike

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instances of like, why didn't
you tell?

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Why didn't you tell the
audience, like what this was

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really about?
So I thought it was a really

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great movie.
I'd probably go see it again but

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in the movie just left out some
details that I think were needed

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to complete the story.
Yeah, OK, that's fair.

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And again, I didn't read it, so
I don't know better, but yeah,

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I've heard some people say the
same thing.

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But yeah, good movie, highly
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I think Sid would recommend it
as well, despite it missing a

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few things that the book had.
But yeah, go check that out.

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I might have someone.
Oops, no.

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It's OK.
Go ahead, do.

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You remember this is like
backstage stuff, but do you

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remember the person I told you
about?

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And we couldn't even access his
his podcast.

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This was several weeks ago.
He has regrouped everything we

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can access it and I think I'll
send him the link to submit.

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That's awesome.
Great.

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Yes, I would love to do that.
I'm glad to hear it's working

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EVAL.
Also just wanted to tease for

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you guys today, today, later on
this show, find out how you can

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win Ralph's road caster duo.
So Ralph, I believe you're

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giving away this road caster duo
because you upgraded.

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Well, it's not necessarily an
upgrade, but I guess it is in

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the sense that it has more bells
and whistles.

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But you got the road caster Pro
2, so now no need for the duo,

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right?
That's why you're giving it

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away.
Absolutely.

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I'm living in the land of more
leveling gears and more cool

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buttons and a little bit bigger
footprint.

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But that's why I'm going to give
away Ralph's duo.

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Awesome.
Yes.

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And how old is it?
How long have you had this?

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Oh, probably about nine months.
OK.

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So it's not very old.
No, OK, good.

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And it comes with obviously the
duo.

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Does it come with anything else?
Like I know there's a there's

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something else you're adding to
the package and we'll talk about

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that too.
But like, does it come with all

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the wires or is this something
that people would need their own

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wires for?
How does that work?

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Well, no, I mean it's going to
come with the the pay cable to

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plug it in and it's pretty much
good to go after that.

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You will have to get an SD card
because I took my SD card out

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because that's my own content in
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But really it's plug and play
pretty well to go.

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And the best part is I've
already got all the the nuanced

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things done to it and the
upgrades to the firmware and all

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that kind of stuff.
So you're ready to go right from

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the jump.
Awesome.

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OK, cool.
So later in the show we will

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share with you exactly how to
win it.

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So with that, Ralph coming to
you, and I want to start with

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this, what are you hoping that
people take away from this

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discussion by the end of it all?
I want creators to stop losing

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money and have a 10 minute plan
to understand the business side

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of their podcasts.
That's really my goal here

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because today I want to talk
about something I see constantly

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with creators.
And here's the thing, a lot of

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people always say, oh Ralph, I'm
just bad with money.

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I don't think that's the issue
at all.

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And I don't think it's because
people are irresponsible.

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I think the problem is their
financial systems are a mess.

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And the crazy part is this, the
fix only takes about 10 minutes

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a week.
It's really that simple.

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So today I want to open this up
to have a real conversation

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about creator money systems.
And so I want to start by asking

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the room a question and feel
free to jump in.

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How many creators here feel like
their money tracking system is?

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I'm going to give you 3 choices.
OK, and here's what we'll do in

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the chat.
We'll put a one for OK a instead

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of a, say 1-2 and three in the
chat.

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Put those that number whatever
corresponds to you.

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So #1 how many creators feel
like their money tracking system

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is #1 clean and organized?
If you feel like your money

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system is clean and organized,
put a number one.

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If you think your money system
is kind of messy, put a #2 you

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know, not quite not organized,
but not quite disorganized

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either.
Or if you think it's a complete

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disaster, put a #3.
Now listen, there's no judgement

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here.
And the reason I say there's no

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judgement is creators aren't
taught how to do this.

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So let's see what everybody says
here.

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Looks like we've got a mix here,
Ralph.

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We've got.
Yeah, Tim.

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Tim has an 8, which I don't know
what to make of that.

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But yeah, it looks like we've
got a mix.

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We got several twos in here.
And I put myself as a 2, even

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though now that I've hired you,
things are getting a lot more

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organized.
But and I wasn't terribly

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disorganized, but I knew I had
room for improvement.

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So that's why I personally chose
#2 for this, this one.

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But yeah, it looks like maybe
Sid is the only one in here

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that's got a number one there.
Well, I certainly applaud Sid.

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So Sid, let me ask you, what
system are you using and what do

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you like about it?
So good morning, everybody.

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So we use QuickBooks for
everything to run all of my

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businesses, including the
podcast.

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And it's super easy.
I have an accountant that I

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worked with for 15 years.
I also have an accounting VA

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that handles everything for me
and reconciles bank statements

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and categorizes expenses and all
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Then she's worked with me for
almost 7 years.

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So I feel like we have a really
good system in place and it

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works well.
And I pay bills the first week

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of the month and we get paid a
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month.
So the first week of the month

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is always typically pretty busy.
But I feel like QuickBooks is.

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It's not my favorite tool, but
we've used it long enough that

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it's super.
We understand how to use it,

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though it still confuses me at
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I can attest to that too.
It confuses me at times.

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Also.
Go ahead, Ralph.

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And I think that's a good
system, Sid, and I like what

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you're saying about that.
You've enlisted people around

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you to help you with the system.
And I think that's part of it.

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But there's anyway, I'm just
going to read a couple of the

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comments because I thought they
were kind of funny.

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Somebody said what number is non
existent?

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John Jemingo Greek.
That's a good one, John.

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But and that's the problem, you
know, there, we don't get that

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training.
I want to talk a little bit.

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Does anybody else want to
comment before I move on?

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I got some ideas about what
causes this this root problem.

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No, I think go for it, Ralph.
Cool O here's what I think the

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root roblem is.
The reality is this, creators

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were never taught this stuff.
Most creators don't have 30

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years of experience in
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That's just the truth, right?
And nobody explains it.

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Nobody explains how this is
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road and you're not really
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I mean, sure, we learn about
microphones, we learn about

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editing.
See, these are all the things

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that I had no idea about.
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I knew the financial side.
But most creators learn about

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microphones and editing.
And now in the YouTube thing,

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thumbnails and audience growth.
But for so many of us, nobody

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explains how to run the business
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And when you don't get that
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that people put ones and and
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It's all over the board.
But it leads to some predictable

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outcomes and some predictable
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And I want to share 2 examples.
I'll give you one example.

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I just dealt with the person.
It's been about two weeks ago

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Creator came in and they had put
together simple.

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I said, listen, they need to do
your tax returns.

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They had this 1099 K from the
PayPal platform that showed they

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made like $30,000 last year,
which isn't bad.

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That's great.
And I said, OK, well if we do

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your tax return now, I'm going
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And he said, Ralph, hold on a
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Now I, I don't have 30,000 to
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I said I didn't.
That doesn't shock me.

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I said OK, well where did the
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Well, Ralph, to be honest with
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that, but, but, but I've got
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went somewhere.
But the problem is they don't

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have any system to track that.
So now we're trying to figure

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out what happened last January
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up to this year.
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Now, sometimes the problem isn't
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who love spreadsheets.
It's funny, I'm an accountant.

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I don't like spreadsheets.
But for so many people, they got

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these drowning in spreadsheets
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when I don't know where to
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And the problem with that, it
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is not good.
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anybody did this because they
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I think there's a genuine
concern about I need to do

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something here, but the problem
is their system didn't exist.

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And that's really the next
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If I had to ask you right now,
what part of Creator Finances

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feels the most overwhelming
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reason that people aren't doing
this is it it feels

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overwhelming.
I'm going to throw a couple

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ideas out there, but I really
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Is it tracking income?
Is it tracking expenses?

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Is it the dreaded tax side?
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bookkeeping software under
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Or is is it that, or maybe it's
just staying consistent.

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So I just want to pause here for
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Let the room make some comments
about what is the overwhelming

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part to you in this whole
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I think for me it's just staying

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on top of it, staying in touch
with my finances, being able to

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really understand the insurance
and outs of it.

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I think that's where I get
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shy away all together from the
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Yeah, I think that makes sense.
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really overwhelming.
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hard part to the whole thing.
Why the overwhelm?

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Does anybody want to comment
about why if you put that you

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are struggling with this or you
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does anybody want to mention why
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Because that's what I really
want to understand because I've

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got a solution.
But before I jump to the

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solution, I really want to talk
about how what is the feeling?

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BC go ahead.
I saw you had a comment.

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I think personally it's almost
like it it would over complicate

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for me the process of opening up
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that I myself would have to
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as opposed to kind of keeping
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typical checking account.
I kind of feel like the taxes

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are taken care of, so all I have
to do is file normally for next

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year.
But if I go and open a business

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account, then it takes the tax
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I typically don't have to
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But now that I think about it,
I'm not sure that makes a lot, a

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lot of sense.
But that's where I was coming

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from.
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but I think BC if I can, if I
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what you were saying is you
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that correct?
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route for it, yeah.
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big problems is if you don't
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what what I'm talking about
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And here's the thing I want to
say the best accounting system

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is the one you're actually going
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I can propose all kinds of cool
setups and QuickBooks Online and

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Wave and all these other things,
but it's got to be the one

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you're going to use.
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put something in the chat.
Let me read it says my pockets

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is a hobby.
So I operate at a loss.

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Sometimes I think I don't know
what to know how much I spent on

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podcasting.
Yeah, John, I think that's a

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good point too.
And and I probably should have

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prefaced today's discussion with
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I am more talking to the people.
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John, if you're spending money
on a hobby, you still want to

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attract those things because you
may very well get.

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And John, I listen to your show
and I know you asked for

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support.
So you may very well get a 1099

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or you may be getting money
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So you're going to have to
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And if you have to report that,
and you definitely want to be

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able to report the expenses that
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it's a hobby.
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of system.
One of the things that I think

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the best thing to do is have a
system that at least separates

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the business and the personal
stuff because that's the biggest

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problem is if you don't separate
it, then tax time comes around

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and you're trying to figure out
what are you going to do.

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And the stuff is so intermingled
with personal and business

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altogether, it makes an absolute
mess.

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But you don't have to use the
one that's the most powerful.

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It doesn't have to be the most
expensive and it certainly

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doesn't have to be the one
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It's just got to be the one that
you're going to look at and not

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look at once a hear you got to
look at it every single week.

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And I'm going to talk in a
little bit about a 10 minute

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plan that I think really solves
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But you know, at this point, I
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comment on the overwhelm piece
before I move on to the next

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thought that I have?
But are there other people that

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want to share a little bit of
their overwhelm stories?

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I know a lot of people have made
some comments here in the chat.

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Anyone have any stories or any
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regarding finances?
Go ahead, Dr. OK, I think my

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biggest problem, my biggest
overwhelm, is that I don't know

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how much to pay myself when I
get money from my clients.

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I know that I should take money
out and put it in my regular

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checking account to pay myself,
but I'm I'm at a loss as to how

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much to pay myself.
Oh, Dr. thank you so much.

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You just walked into where I'm
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And that's the whole idea.
No, But Dr. just nails it

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because that is one of the
biggest struggles that a lot of

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content creators have is how
much do I pay myself?

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So DRI promise you I'm going to
answer that question here in

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just a couple of minutes.
But Dr. thank you for sharing

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that because that is a very
common thing that a lot of

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people say to me is right graph.
I got this money coming in, but

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I don't know how to pay myself.
I don't know how much to set

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aside for taxes.
So I think that that is a

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brilliant observation, Dr. And
it's something that I am

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definitely going to get into and
I just want to read something to

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Dave Campbell put in said, I
don't make money directly from

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my podcast, but Buy me a Coffee
sponsors have been great.

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I don't claim expenses and here
in Canada, we only need to

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report supplemental income when
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I like that.
That is a very cool thing, Dave.

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Not that way in the US.
So in the US, basically if you

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have more than $400.00 of money
coming in the door, you've got

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to report that.
A lot of people are shocked when

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I say $400.00, like $400.00.
The other thing, I want to be

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careful and I, I was on the Ask
the Podcast coach a couple

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months ago, be very careful when
you're doing sponsorships that

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you don't use the word donate.
It's one of my pet peeves.

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You cannot accept donations if
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of charity.
Very important.

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I hear that on podcasts all the
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Oh, I want you to donate to my
show.

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You cannot do that.
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You can use the word encourage,
but be really careful about

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using the word donate.
So here's what I was going to

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get into next.
I really think with most

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creators, there's, there's three
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development of things.
I think stage 1, these are your

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beginning creators.
If you're just starting out, you

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need something simple.
You need something free and

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something with low friction.
One of the tools that I

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recommend is a tool like Wave
WAVE.

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It works well.
The thing I really like about it

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is it connects to your bank.
So all the transactions that are

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happening at the bank, that are
happening at your credit card,

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you can connect all those
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So all those transactions are
feeding in the byproduct of

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that.
It categorizes those expenses.

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Now you're going to have to go
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say, OK, this is for this, this
is for this, but it generates

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basic reports, which is what you
need.

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DRI see, Dr. uses that.
That's fantastic and that's what

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it does.
So if you're just starting out,

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you don't hear me saying go buy
something expensive.

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Now listen, I use QuickBooks
Online for all of my clients.

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I think that's an excellent
tool, but I don't think it's

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necessary for the beginning
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And that's why I think a tool
like Weibo.

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And listen again, like I said
earlier, if you want to be into

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spreadsheets, that's fine.
Use what's going to work for

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you.
Now, stage 2 is what I see your

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growing creators.
This is where things are getting

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a little bit more complex.
Most of my growing creators have

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multiple income streams.
They might have brand deals,

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they're getting some affiliate
income, maybe they're even

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selling some coaching or digital
products.

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Now this is where I'm going to
talk about QuickBooks Online

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because this is where I think
QuickBooks Online really shines

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and it's, I think Sid, you said
this is what you're using.

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The thing I like about that is
it's got more automation, it's

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got better reporting, and
honestly, it can scale with the

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business.
And in this stage 2, I think

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that's where you're getting to
is the ability to start scaling

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with the business.
And then stage 3, these are what

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I call your service creators.
These are creators who are

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invoicing, consulting and
coaching.

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Maybe they're doing editing
services, maybe doing some

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design.
ServiceNow, what are the tools

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here?
Now, I, I firmly believe that

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QuickBooks Online still serves
this area very well, but there's

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another one I'm going to throw
out there and that's FreshBooks.

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And listen, I don't have an
affiliate link to any of these

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folks.
I'm not being paid by any of

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those.
But FreshBooks is another one

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that works well if you're using
invoicing tools.

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So this one, let me ask the
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I know Sid, you've already said
what you're using, but I would

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love to hear what other people
are using or if you're still in

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00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,120
spreadsheet and let's talk about
that too.

426
00:21:38,120 --> 00:21:40,200
Does anybody want to comment?
Yeah, I will.

427
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,960
For some reason the things
aren't working.

428
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:48,600
I've been using Zoho books for
my business which and the other

429
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:52,640
reason I'm I'm was using Zoho
books is because I was paying

430
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,560
for it and I didn't want to have
to pay for QuickBooks and Zoho

431
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,240
because I was using Zoho for
CRM.

432
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:03,280
But I may be dropping Zoho
altogether to just go back to

433
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,120
QuickBooks because I have a
meeting with some guy on

434
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,480
tomorrow.
I think QuickBooks is great.

435
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,600
It just got really expensive,
which is a completely different

436
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,280
conversation.
But Zoho, it does everything.

437
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,520
It's just, it's like any
software, you have to learn the

438
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,600
language and I think that's the
biggest problem.

439
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,120
And Alex, you make a good point
about QuickBooks and I totally

440
00:22:25,120 --> 00:22:27,400
agree with what you're saying
and you do have a good meeting

441
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,520
coming up, by the way.
I'm looking forward to that.

442
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,800
But no, I think QuickBooks is
getting more expensive.

443
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,360
It's very true.
And I think they're able to do

444
00:22:35,360 --> 00:22:38,080
that because they've, honestly,
I think the biggest issue is

445
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:39,880
they built so much AI into this
now.

446
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,160
Well, they can.
Yeah, they can because they've

447
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,080
got the market.
I mean, I think the last time I

448
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,040
read it was 80% of the market is
on some form of QuickBooks.

449
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,280
And what really makes me mad is,
and I think this is the biggest

450
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:54,320
problem and and not to give you
a softball here, I think the

451
00:22:54,320 --> 00:23:01,840
problem with content creators
and small, I say entrepreneurial

452
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:06,280
businesses, it's like they get,
for lack of a better word,

453
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:12,200
screwed because the products are
for the big dogs and for the

454
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,400
medium sized dogs.
And you know, my biggest

455
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,480
frustration when you went back
to the original question as a

456
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,360
business owner or a content
creator, and I think this is

457
00:23:21,360 --> 00:23:26,800
what ends up happening is you
start a business as a quote, UN

458
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,680
quote hobby or a quote, UN
quote, I'm going to make money

459
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:34,480
business.
And it's really frustrating when

460
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,360
you don't know what you don't
know.

461
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,280
And I know you can read a book
and you can do all this other

462
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:44,680
stuff, but I equate being a
business owner, especially a

463
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,720
small business owner, as that
guy trying to put the plates on

464
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,920
the sticks.
And you're just trying to, as I

465
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,800
like to say, pay the mafia every
week, which or month, which is

466
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,160
my daughter or the bills or
whatever else.

467
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,640
So you have all these different
things spinning and you're just

468
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,960
trying to get to your next sale
or in this case your next

469
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,160
episode or whatever else.
So I, I think, you know, going

470
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,720
back to QuickBooks, which was
the original question is I've

471
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:16,120
never heard of FreshBooks, but I
know there's not a better way or

472
00:24:16,120 --> 00:24:19,360
there might be a better way, but
unfortunately QuickBooks has

473
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:25,240
kind of made it the only way to
keep it clean in a lot of ways.

474
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,080
And Alex, I appreciate what
you're saying.

475
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,000
I think you're right.
I will only add to it that one

476
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,680
of the biggest struggles I see
even with QuickBooks is getting

477
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,840
it set up correctly.
When I take on a new content

478
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,800
creator client, one of the
biggest struggles I've seen is

479
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:42,000
they didn't spend the time to
understand how to create the

480
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,400
infrastructure to front end and
then QuickBooks becomes a

481
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,360
frustration point.
Yes, you're paying for it and

482
00:24:48,360 --> 00:24:50,800
it's not getting, you're not
getting out of it what you need.

483
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,840
So that's where working with
somebody at the front end to

484
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,080
help you get that set up is
really a huge thing.

485
00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,040
I want to share what I call a 10
minute weekly money review here

486
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,480
in a minute, but I want to open
up.

487
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,520
Does anybody else want to
comment about what they're

488
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:04,560
using?
I see John said.

489
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,680
John Jamingo said he uses Google
Sheets and not very well.

490
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,360
That's the problem with Google
Sheets.

491
00:25:10,360 --> 00:25:13,640
That's the problem with
spreadsheets is I just, my

492
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,000
biggest struggle with that is it
doesn't what I like about Wave,

493
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,040
what I like about QuickBooks, it
actually feeds the transactions

494
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,720
in from your bank account, from
your credit card.

495
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,000
So when it feeds those
transactions in, it kind of

496
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,080
pushes you to keep this stuff up
to date.

497
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,360
Whereas I'm not aware of how a
Google spreadsheet could do

498
00:25:31,360 --> 00:25:33,240
that.
But does anybody else want to

499
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,560
comment about what they're using
and the overwhelm of the

500
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,640
struggles they're having, or
maybe the triumphs that you're

501
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,440
having right now as well?
Actually, Ralph, you know what?

502
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,800
I have an even an even better
idea here right now.

503
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,480
I hope this is the right sound.
Let's see.

504
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:54,600
OK, how about this one?
It's time to to share how you

505
00:25:54,600 --> 00:26:00,680
can win Ralph's roadcaster duo.
So this is what she got to do

506
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,040
Again, we talked about this at
the top of the show.

507
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,640
This is a lightly used
roadcaster duo.

508
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,920
It's basically plug and play.
All you really need is an SD

509
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,560
card so you can record directly
to your Rd.

510
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,200
Caster Duo.
So if you are interested, it's

511
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:23,400
going to happen between now and
Friday the 17th of April, 11:45

512
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PM Eastern Time.
All you have to do is go to

513
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podcastingmorningchat.com/duo
DUO and and then enter over

514
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there.
We're using kingsummo.com.

515
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:41,160
This is how we're keeping track
of all the entries and keeping

516
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,520
all of this together.
So what you can do, here's the

517
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:49,320
cool part is when you go, you'll
automatically get an entry when

518
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,360
you sign up.
But then there are multiple ways

519
00:26:52,360 --> 00:26:57,760
you can get additional entries.
For example, sharing this on

520
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:02,360
Instagram, sharing this on
Facebook, wherever, any social

521
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media platform, even by e-mail.
When you do it, you get another.

522
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,840
Actually, I think with that one
it's three additional entries.

523
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And then we've added some
additional ways you can get more

524
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entries as well.
For example, following Ralphs

525
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,600
YouTube channel, following
podcasting, morning chat on

526
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Instagram, There are multiple
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527
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to
podcastingmorningchat.com/duo.

528
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And every day you can go back to
that website and earn yourself

529
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,880
at least one new entry.
Even if you went through all the

530
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,960
different ways that we've added
there for you so you can always

531
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get one more entry every single
day, we can.

532
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Vote Yep often and vote many
times.

533
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,080
That's right.
That's right.

534
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,040
And I think BC had a question.
Go ahead BC here.

535
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,040
You go.
Yeah, I stepped away for a

536
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:54,880
second.
So I do apologize if someone

537
00:27:54,880 --> 00:28:00,040
else did ask the question.
Ralph, have you found that the

538
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:04,240
dual works best only with any
kind of Rd. microphone or have

539
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,520
you been able to use other
kinds?

540
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,920
Is there a specificity?
How does that look?

541
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,280
Oh, great question.
Oh, I love that question because

542
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,640
I have a bad case of gas and
that's gear acquisition

543
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,600
syndrome.
Oh, it's so true.

544
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:22,760
So I've used the I've used the
pod mic, I've used the Rode pod

545
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,160
mic.
It worked excellently.

546
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:29,440
I've used the Shore SM7DB.
I've got a shotgun mic I used

547
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,280
for it.
And now if you caught me on the

548
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,840
video today, it's not a good day
to talk about video, but I am

549
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,720
using the HEIL thin mic.
So I used all of those things.

550
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,600
I also have it or had it plugged
into my Mac, plugged into my

551
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,760
iPhone.
So it is a very versatile tool

552
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,600
that does all the things you
need to do in about an 8 by 8

553
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,560
footprint.
So I really love the thing, but

554
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,920
I just wanted to be able to go
to more leveling sliders with

555
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,160
the Pro 2.
Now I have what, six of these

556
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:57,880
now?
I guess six of these, it's a

557
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,560
little bit bigger.
As I get a little bit older, the

558
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,360
pads are a little bit bigger.
So I'm appreciating bigger pads

559
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,920
and bigger dials.
And you know, it just looks cool

560
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,720
on my studio desk too.
But no, the other thing that

561
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,520
we're throwing into that though
is in addition to getting the

562
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,040
do, and here's what I'm going to
do because I want to make sure

563
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,400
somebody said I am going to grab
an SD card and throw that in

564
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,040
with it, Mark.
But in addition to that, I'm

565
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:24,680
also going to give you a one
hour complimentary coaching call

566
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,640
with me to help you on
whatever's going on with your

567
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,360
money side of your podcast.
I'm happy to do that and we'll

568
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,560
do a monetization on it.
I'll talk to you about ways to

569
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,600
monetize your podcast.
Or if you just want some ideas

570
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,520
of how to structure your
finances from the podcasting

571
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,080
side, I'd be happy to help you
do that.

572
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:48,360
So all of that is included at
Podcasting Morning chat.com/duo

573
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,880
Duo.
OK, so that's it,

574
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:55,760
podcastingmerchat.com/duo.
You can go and enter to win now

575
00:29:55,760 --> 00:30:00,960
and enter often between now and
Friday, April 17th, 11:45 PM

576
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,840
Eastern.
We will announce the winner that

577
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:09,160
following Monday the 20th for
our next Money Monday edition.

578
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,480
All right, so with that, Ralph,
let's dive back in to today's

579
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,880
Money Monday.
Oh, thank you so much and I will

580
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,240
throw this out.
One of the ways you can get more

581
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,360
chances is if you share it on
your social media platform.

582
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,600
So when you go to that platform,
yeah, go everyday, share with

583
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,400
everybody, you know, because I
really want this to go to

584
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,840
somebody.
I want it to be good, be a great

585
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,280
giveaway.
But let's jump into what we were

586
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,160
just talking about.
So we talked about at the

587
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:37,520
beginning why most creators
aren't taught these skills.

588
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,760
Why most creators, you know,
they struggle with this.

589
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,920
But now I really want to talk
about some solutions because one

590
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,680
of the things that I want to
bring this morning is a solution

591
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,920
and it's what I call the 10
minute weekly money review. 10

592
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,960
minutes.
I promise you, in 10 minutes you

593
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,440
can conquer this whole feeling
of overwhelm, this whole feeling

594
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,880
of not being ready to go with
your finances.

595
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:01,640
Here's what you do.
I'm going to give you step by

596
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,400
step.
Step number one, pick a time of

597
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,680
the week and make that a sacred
time.

598
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,840
Put that on your calendar.
Like, hey, it's a sponsor

599
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,720
meeting, it's a brand deal
meeting, whatever works for you.

600
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,400
But this is a sacred time.
You carve it out, you put it on

601
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:15,640
your calendar.
That's the first thing.

602
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,880
And when you do that, the first
thing I want you to do is just

603
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,160
categorize the income that came
in for the prior week.

604
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,360
Whether you got money from
YouTube, from brand deals, maybe

605
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,680
you've got Patreon, maybe you've
made some affiliate income, or

606
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,080
maybe you're offering services,
but just start there.

607
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,280
That's the first step.
Categorize the income.

608
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,880
Second step, categorize your
expenses.

609
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,080
Now again, you're doing this 10
minutes a week, so this

610
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:45,160
shouldn't feel like overwhelmed.
Categorize your gear purchases,

611
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,040
any software you've bought,
those subscriptions that we all

612
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:49,920
have, 100 subscriptions for
different things.

613
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,640
Any travel you're doing, any
contractors you're paying.

614
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,400
And here, don't forget about
this one.

615
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,200
Any education or coaching
services that you're subscribing

616
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,840
to or paying for, categorize
those expenses.

617
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,200
So #1 the income.
And John, I see you're already

618
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,040
overwhelmed.
John, come on now, dude, you can

619
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,640
do this.
John, I promise you.

620
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,600
I've listened to your show.
You can handle this.

621
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,000
I promise you, John, you can do.
This John, you know, I want to

622
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,360
ask if John will be interested
in coming up on stage and

623
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,920
sharing a little bit of what's
overwhelming him.

624
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,600
And I'm not saying that he's
wrong because if he feels that

625
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,040
way, there's got to be others
that are feeling that way, too.

626
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,920
And I'd love to hear a little
bit more about that, Ralph, and

627
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,000
see if you can help with the
overwhelm.

628
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,040
So, yeah, good morning.
Let's let's do it.

629
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,160
All right, so can you guys hear
me now?

630
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:36,480
I don't even know if you can
hear me.

631
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,920
So I started this as I'm
retired.

632
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,600
OK?
So I just started this as

633
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:46,120
something to do because I'm
retired and I don't want to sit

634
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,400
and watch TV all day.
And then it started to get

635
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,160
expensive.
So I started offering

636
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:58,240
podcasting, editing and I don't
make a lot of money and it I

637
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:02,080
think it basically is a wash.
But now RAF is scaring me

638
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,680
because he's like, Oh well, the
IRS says I'm like, Oh my God,

639
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,000
the IRS can't they just say I'm
moving to Canada?

640
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,000
Can I identify as a Canadian
please?

641
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,280
Because I don't have to identify
any of this or so anyhow, so

642
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,280
now, so I have some editing.
Every once in a while someone

643
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,640
throws me a 5 or 10, you know,
on rumble.

644
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,680
And I'm, I know I'm operating at
a loss, but I'm thinking to

645
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,000
myself.
So now I'm, I'm worried about

646
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,960
it.
But so now I have to go and try

647
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,240
to figure this all out.
And I probably will do it

648
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,560
because now I'm that I know
about it.

649
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,120
You don't know about it till you
know about it.

650
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,280
But I was just so happy being an
ostrich and having my head stuck

651
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,000
in the sand and not worried
about it.

652
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,240
Well, John, you're not the only
ostrich, my friend.

653
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,960
But all that said, yeah, John,
and I'm not trying to scare you,

654
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,560
but The thing is with these
platforms where you're receiving

655
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,320
money, these platforms are going
to report this information to

656
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,720
the IRS.
So that's really the issue,

657
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,480
John.
And I totally understand where

658
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,600
you're coming from, John, you
know, and it it's difficult if

659
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,520
you're doing this is, hey, this
is I'm retired.

660
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,440
This is a sideline business.
But what you don't want to do is

661
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,600
get yourself jammed up because
of something that never was

662
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,639
intended to be a big money maker
or anything like that.

663
00:34:10,639 --> 00:34:13,679
So John, that's why I say this.
If you can find 10 minutes a

664
00:34:13,679 --> 00:34:15,400
week, honestly, John, you can do
this.

665
00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:18,920
Just categorize your income.
You talked about the different

666
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,040
streams.
Somebody threw you 5 from Rumble

667
00:34:21,159 --> 00:34:24,280
or they threw you maybe through
PayPal, whatever that looks

668
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:25,360
like.
Just categorize that.

669
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,239
And then whatever you spent this
week, listen, you don't have to

670
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:32,159
go buy or go get a separate bank
account just for a business.

671
00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:35,159
You could set up a sub account
of your checking account.

672
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,520
You can go get a credit card, or
maybe you already have a credit

673
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:39,920
card.
I'm going to call this my

674
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,120
business credit card.
But just do that, categorize it,

675
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,239
put all the income into that,
put all the expenses from that.

676
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,159
And really the third step in
this channel of 10 minutes is

677
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,120
start to take receipts.
Picture the receipts, take a

678
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,960
picture of them.
All of us carry around a very

679
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,800
expensive phone in our pocket.
Snap a photo of that, upload it,

680
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,920
put it somewhere, and the last
step in this weekly check in is

681
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,240
check your cash position.
So really ask yourself three

682
00:35:07,240 --> 00:35:10,400
basic questions.
Listen John, I promise you, if

683
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,280
you can ask yourself these three
questions, you can do the 10

684
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:17,160
minute check in.
What came in, what went out and

685
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,600
what's left.
That's really the whole system.

686
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,240
As you're sitting here talking
about it, it really isn't that

687
00:35:22,240 --> 00:35:24,320
big of a deal.
I do have a credit card that I

688
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:25,920
don't even really use.
It's just sitting there for

689
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,160
emergencies.
I could turn that into the the

690
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,680
podcasting card where I just put
everything and then I would know

691
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,760
where, whatever, what everything
I use.

692
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,240
I don't even know what I pay
for.

693
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,000
I'll be honest with you, I have
no idea what I pay for.

694
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:41,560
I pay for some AI stuff.
I pay for things for voice

695
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,640
overs, you know, I pay for all
kinds of stuff.

696
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,280
I just throw it out there and
then what comes in, what comes

697
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,160
in and what's left over.
I just, you know, pay for

698
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:49,840
myself.
So I don't know.

699
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:54,080
And also I have GAS too.
I have gear syndrome where I go

700
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,120
out and buy all kinds of gear so
I have that also.

701
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,360
And John, I think what you just
said makes a lot of sense.

702
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:06,040
I don't think people realize how
many little $5 and $10 and $15

703
00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:08,800
subscriptions and all that are
running out the door every

704
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,720
month.
And so that's the other clear

705
00:36:11,720 --> 00:36:15,560
take away from this is you start
to get a vision of what's going

706
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,520
on and where your money's
actually being spent.

707
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,640
I have worked with some content
creators that didn't realize

708
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,680
just how much they were
spending.

709
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,160
I had one particular guy, he had
like 15 different AI

710
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,640
subscriptions because he bought
this 10.

711
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,240
This is the newest one, This is
the flashy one.

712
00:36:30,240 --> 00:36:32,480
I really like this one.
But then this one had a

713
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,920
different bell and whistle.
So that's the thing I think

714
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,120
you're going to find is you're
going to discover what happened

715
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,040
with your money.
And I think there's a lot of

716
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,960
value in understanding what
happened with your money.

717
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,200
Does that make sense to you,
John?

718
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,960
Yeah, it does.
It's just one of those things is

719
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,160
I don't know how to explain it
except I'm going to spend it

720
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,160
this way.
It's like you're afraid you have

721
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,040
cancer, but you don't want to
know you have cancer.

722
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:56,560
So you don't go and you don't
go.

723
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,000
You like stick in your head and
say you don't want to know how

724
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,920
much money you're dumping into
this or if you're making any

725
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,680
money at it.
I would imagine I, I know I

726
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,400
can't be the only person that
does this.

727
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,800
I can relate to this.
John, I can relate to this.

728
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,080
Yeah, I totally relate to
exactly what you just said.

729
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,360
So I don't think you're alone
here.

730
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,280
And also Sid wants to chime in
as well.

731
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:18,840
So let's let's check in with
Sid.

732
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,600
Go ahead.
I just have a question for John.

733
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,640
John, do you have a separate
business that you're running

734
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:27,240
your podcasting stuff through or
are you just putting it all into

735
00:37:27,240 --> 00:37:29,800
your personal?
It's just all into my personal

736
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:31,840
Yeah, I don't have anything.
Curious.

737
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:33,840
There was no follow up, just
curious, Sid.

738
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,760
No, not really.
I mean, but it does sound like

739
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,560
to me that as John starting to
do more and more things, he

740
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,480
should probably set up a
business to separate the 2.

741
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,920
But that's I mean, that's what I
would do.

742
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,760
I don't know what advice Ralph
would offer.

743
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,080
I would.
Sit.

744
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,840
I 100% agree with you.
I think John is in a position to

745
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,200
do just that for really two
reasons.

746
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:58,800
Reason #1 to prevent any
liability exposure.

747
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,680
You don't want to subject all
your personal assets or personal

748
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,760
things to this.
And second thing, I think it

749
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,760
would help you get more
organized, John.

750
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,840
And honestly, John, the other
side of this, it might provide

751
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,960
for some nice side income in
retirement because you're going

752
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,040
to put yourself out there with a
little bit more professionalism

753
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:17,880
from the business structure
perspective.

754
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,400
And I think sometimes we
overthink that one, but I think

755
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:24,360
there's a legitimate part to
that and that is having a LLC

756
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,720
and it's, listen, it doesn't
have to take a lot of money to

757
00:38:26,720 --> 00:38:28,280
do it.
You know, you're welcome to

758
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,440
reach out to me.
I'm happy to do I, I know a

759
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,200
couple of people here in the
community have reached out.

760
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:37,520
I do free 15 minute discovery
calls where you can, we'll sit

761
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:38,880
and talk about what you got
going on.

762
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,680
I can make some recommendations.
So I think I'm going to trumpet

763
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,720
what you said said, I think,
John, you're in the position

764
00:38:43,720 --> 00:38:46,400
where it probably makes sense to
start thinking about carving

765
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,120
this out as something separate.
All right, so I'm going to just,

766
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,000
I'm going to fall on the knife.
So I actually did set up an LLC.

767
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:57,160
I haven't done anything with it.
I have the name and I have

768
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,720
everything set up, but I just
don't do anything with it.

769
00:38:59,720 --> 00:39:03,280
I've had it for two years now.
Well, and, and John, that's

770
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,000
something you and I could
certainly talk about.

771
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,720
The problem with a lot of people
setting up their own LLCS, and I

772
00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:12,480
see this almost once or twice a
week, is if you don't set it up

773
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:16,000
the right way from the front
end, it doesn't help you and it

774
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,720
doesn't help you at all if you
don't use it.

775
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,240
And I'm not picking on you,
John, you and I are friends.

776
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,360
We, we're, we're good.
But I'm just saying like, it's

777
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,080
great to have it #1 is it set up
correctly to benefit you both

778
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,360
from a liability and a tax
perspective?

779
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,560
And secondarily, are you using
it?

780
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,960
If you're not using it, then you
you're spending money every year

781
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,400
for franchise taxes and
licensing and all that, assuming

782
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,640
you're doing that and it's not
helping you at all.

783
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:45,080
No, I'm a wreck now.
I wish I'd never listened this

784
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:46,920
morning, but no, I appreciate
it.

785
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,400
Now that's not a glowing
endorsement, John.

786
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,160
And listen, I'm a true
confession here, true confession

787
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,200
from an accountant.
You know what they talk about

788
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,560
people who are builders and
carpenters, you never build your

789
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,440
own stuff.
Well, true confession is from

790
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,400
the accounting perspective.
I, you know, I'm one of those

791
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,480
guys that procrastinates and
lets this stuff go.

792
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:11,480
And I, I think that's where the
10 minute weekly check in really

793
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,960
is where you can really start to
see what's going on here because

794
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,840
you got to start looking at this
as ACEO of your own business.

795
00:40:19,240 --> 00:40:20,920
And yes, it can still be a
hobby.

796
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,160
It can still be a small thing,
but you've got to be able to

797
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,360
know where your money's going
because you, like John said, you

798
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,960
know, you might not realize how
much money you're actually

799
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,920
spending on a hobby.
And next thing you know, you've

800
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,800
got a credit card that's got a
high balance, or you're noticing

801
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,520
your savings account is
trickling down because of all

802
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,320
the things you're buying.
And a lot of times you've got

803
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,560
subscriptions and stuff that
you're just not using anymore.

804
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,040
So why give them your money?
I agree 100%.

805
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,680
Sorry, yes I do.
Go ahead BC I saw you want to

806
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,040
make a comment.
You just want to add 1 thing and

807
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,880
I know Ralph will agree with
this 100%.

808
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,040
Even if you're not actively
using your LLC, be sure you're

809
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,680
filing your annual report anyway
because even if you're not using

810
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,760
it, it's not bringing in revenue
yet you still have to file.

811
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:03,880
I personally I will give this
away.

812
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:08,520
I just pulled my company out of
disillusion because I didn't

813
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,760
file for the past few years
because I wasn't making money.

814
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,360
I didn't realize that it was
still a necessity.

815
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,600
So just to let you know, that is
a thing, especially at least in

816
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:18,520
North Carolina.
I'm not sure.

817
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,560
I'm not sure where you are,
John, but keep that in mind.

818
00:41:21,720 --> 00:41:27,640
Yeah, I guess my, I started mine
in Delaware and again, I, I it

819
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,160
just sits there.
I don't even know what you know,

820
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,680
like I said, they said, they
said people say, oh, make an

821
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,800
LLC, it's easy.
Just make it so it's just what

822
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,000
what I did.
But again, here it is.

823
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,640
You just said normal person.
Excuse me, a normal person and

824
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,000
they say start at LLC.
So you start it and you're not

825
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,640
using it and you forget about
it.

826
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,680
Matter of fact, I didn't even
think about it until you guys

827
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,640
were talking about LLCS.
And I'm like, Oh yeah, you know,

828
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,600
I do have one, so.
Yeah, and BC you're absolutely

829
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:52,920
right.
I'm in Delaware.

830
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,560
I set up Delaware LLCS for
people all over the country.

831
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,080
And yes, there's an annual
franchise tax that has to be

832
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,240
paid in Delaware.
It's every June 1st.

833
00:42:01,720 --> 00:42:04,360
Every state has those.
If you don't pay your franchise

834
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,200
tax and if you don't have what's
called a registered agent.

835
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,160
I don't want to get into the
weeds, but registered agent is

836
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:13,720
basically someone who is a
process of person that they call

837
00:42:13,720 --> 00:42:16,120
on.
If you have an LLC, if you don't

838
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:20,080
pay those, what happens is the
states basically put you into

839
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,160
what's called dissolution, where
they basically fine you out of

840
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:27,880
existence and then you don't
actually have an LLCBC.

841
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,880
I'll throw one more thing out
there since you mentioned it.

842
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:34,240
Understand that LLCS, S Corps
and all that are at the state

843
00:42:34,240 --> 00:42:36,960
level.
So they're only valid in the

844
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:38,880
state in which you are
operating.

845
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,080
And it gets kind of complicated
with content creation because

846
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:43,600
where are you actually
operating?

847
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,800
But that's where you really need
to go and meet with somebody who

848
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,520
understands these things.
If you've already got one set

849
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,440
up, that's fine.
We'll take a look at where it is

850
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:52,960
and what we can do to help you
do it.

851
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,440
But yeah, just because, and this
is the problem, John, a lot of

852
00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:00,120
people throw it out there on
Reddit and Facebook and oh, go

853
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,200
get an LLC.
But they don't tell you why,

854
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,600
they don't tell you how to do
it, and they certainly don't

855
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,200
give you any guidelines about
how to keep up with those

856
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,440
things.
And it's super important that if

857
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,680
you're going to have it, that
you're going to use it to your

858
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,000
benefit, especially if you're
going to pay for it every year.

859
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:18,040
Ralph, we have two people that
want to chime in here, Dr. And

860
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,600
then Sid.
So go for it Dr. Yeah, I have

861
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:26,760
wanted been wanting to get on
that quarterly payment kind of

862
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:31,000
ritual, but I think I remember
you saying one time that you are

863
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,920
not a fan of that.
Do I have that right?

864
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,440
Well, I'll answer that with a
yes and no.

865
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:40,240
OK.
If you have consistent content

866
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:45,200
income coming in, you probably
need to do it quarterly because

867
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,000
the IRS wants to get paid as you
go.

868
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:51,200
So, but if it's not consistent,
then DRI would make the argument

869
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,920
that it's not necessary.
But I don't want to overspeak

870
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,240
and say you don't have to do it.
What I'm going to say is the IRS

871
00:43:57,240 --> 00:44:00,800
is expecting that if you don't
do it, they actually will charge

872
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,080
you a penalty for not making
what they call estimated taxes

873
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,240
throughout the year.
But Dr. the bigger issue and

874
00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:09,320
really the core of today issue
is how do you know what the

875
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,360
income and expenses and net
income are if you don't have a

876
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:13,800
system?
But no, Dr., to answer your

877
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,120
question, I don't want to say
no.

878
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,560
I'm just going to say that I
tend to look at the third,

879
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,840
fourth quarter payments a little
bit more seriously because then

880
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,040
I kind of have a better idea of
what's really happened

881
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,640
throughout the year.
OK, I see.

882
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:31,240
Thank you, Dr. Thank you, Ralph.
Sid, you had something?

883
00:44:31,720 --> 00:44:34,520
Actually, that was Pop the
Pepper up by accident.

884
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,680
I was just celebrating
something, Ralph said.

885
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,440
And I hit the wrong emoji, so
I'm good.

886
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,400
OK, no problem.
I said what?

887
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,240
What were you celebrating?
Tell me what you were

888
00:44:43,240 --> 00:44:44,440
celebrating.
I like to see when I'm

889
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:45,680
celebrating.
That makes me feel.

890
00:44:45,720 --> 00:44:48,360
Good.
Oh, you were talking about the

891
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:52,360
state of Delaware requiring the
annual report and their fee.

892
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,960
We have so by three businesses,
two of them are incorporated in

893
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,840
Texas, but one of them is
incorporated in Delaware and

894
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,680
Delaware charges you $500 a year
with that tax that you have to

895
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,360
pay.
So I was just, I was agreeing

896
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,600
with you celebrating that.
Yes, you have to be sure you're

897
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:13,520
filing because they got to, they
got to get their money and you

898
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:17,200
got to have an agent.
And my, my partner is leaving

899
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,120
Delaware and she's moving to
Florida.

900
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:23,600
So we now have an agent to
represent us there to get the

901
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,320
stuff in the mail.
So.

902
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:27,520
Yeah.
And and since it's been brought

903
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,040
up a couple times, let me
mention what a registered agent

904
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,680
is.
So when you have an LLC or a

905
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,640
corporation that is an
artificial entity, it's not a

906
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,520
person.
So every state requires you to

907
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,880
have a person that they can send
mail to.

908
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,600
That is what's called your
registered agent.

909
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:48,320
So I act as a registered agent
for hundreds of companies here

910
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,160
in Delaware because it's
something you have to have.

911
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,320
But no Sid's right.
In Delaware, if you've got an S

912
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:58,240
corporation, the annual fee
basically is $225.

913
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,280
And if you're an LLC, it's $300
per year.

914
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:02,840
Now, I'm not sure why you're
paying 500.

915
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,240
There could be some other
reasons for that, but there is a

916
00:46:05,240 --> 00:46:06,600
fee.
So you've got to factor that

917
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,320
into the decision part.
Thank you.

918
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:11,960
Oh, go ahead, John.
I got a question.

919
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:16,360
So how do I what if I just want
to dissolve the LLC since I

920
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:20,520
haven't been using it?
So actually, if you've not been

921
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,880
using it and you haven't paid
your franchise taxes, it

922
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,520
basically dies on the vine
itself, John.

923
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:30,560
So if you went to the Delaware
Division of Corporations website

924
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,760
and you put check my entity
status, it will basically tell

925
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,880
you whether you're in what now?
The states call it in good

926
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,160
standing.
But what I tell clients is if

927
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,880
you don't want to bother with it
anymore, just quit paying them.

928
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,560
Once you quit paying them,
they're not going to come after

929
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:49,640
you for the money, but they will
let that LLC go away and at some

930
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,960
point they basically find it out
of existence.

931
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,320
I finally did something right.
OK, they.

932
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:58,720
Did something right.
All right, Ralph, anything else

933
00:46:58,720 --> 00:47:00,840
for us?
Well, the other thing I just

934
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,040
wanted to mention is I want to
answer DRS question from earlier

935
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,720
because she mentioned that she
wanted to know how much to pay

936
00:47:07,720 --> 00:47:09,800
yourself.
So DRI want to take about two

937
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,040
minutes and answer that
question.

938
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,560
So now that everyone has agreed
that this 10 minute month, a

939
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:19,040
weekly check in is a good idea.
Dr. What I believe in is the

940
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:24,000
profit first principle and that
is come up with a percentage at

941
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,880
the front end that you are going
to pay yourself from every

942
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,320
week's income.
So that way you know, hey, and

943
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:31,360
and that can be something you
pick.

944
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:32,520
I think you should have two
things.

945
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,640
I think you should have a tax
vault where you decide what your

946
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,720
tax percentage is going to be.
And it depends on your

947
00:47:38,720 --> 00:47:41,240
particular situation.
So every Friday or every day,

948
00:47:41,240 --> 00:47:43,840
every week, when you do this,
you take a percentage and you

949
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:45,880
carve out that percentage to
your taxable.

950
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:50,160
The second carve out is carving
out money for yourself.

951
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,880
And that's got to be what it's
got to be based on what's going

952
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,200
on on the ground.
But I think that's how you solve

953
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:59,640
that problem, Dr. And it's that
whole concept of profit first,

954
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,320
because what happens with a lot
of people, and this isn't just

955
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:06,040
content creators, a lot of
people profit less whatever's

956
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:07,680
leftover, then that's what they
go and spend.

957
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,080
And that creates all kinds of
problems for people.

958
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,960
So DRI, hope this helps you, but
I believe in carve out the tax

959
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:17,040
piece so the tax man gets paid.
And then the second piece is

960
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,400
carve out your percentage so
that you get paid because you're

961
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,120
going to burn out in your
business if you're not getting

962
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,720
anything from it.
And when you carve it out and

963
00:48:25,720 --> 00:48:28,320
you put it into a separate
account, then you know that's

964
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:32,080
the money that I can spend on,
you know you like Absumo, right?

965
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:33,800
So you can spend all those
things on.

966
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,360
Now that's a bad example because
probably Absumo could be a

967
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,360
business expense.
Let's pick something different.

968
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,600
But at whatever you want to
spend your own personal monies

969
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,040
on when you go to the grocery
store to buy eggs to cook or

970
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:45,920
whatever you and your husband
want to do.

971
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,720
If you're setting that money
aside, DRI think that makes it a

972
00:48:49,720 --> 00:48:50,880
little clearer.
Does that help?

973
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:55,800
Dr. It does.
And I do have a tax vault set

974
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,480
aside.
There's right now there's about

975
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:02,400
$5000 in it.
I have my bank Sofi.

976
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:07,440
It automatically transfers about
$250 every month over into the

977
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:11,160
vault.
But my problem is, is I don't

978
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:15,080
know how much to pay myself.
I don't know what the types of

979
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:20,080
questions to ask myself to
figure out how much to pay

980
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,120
myself.
Well, I think that's a great

981
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,640
question and I if we didn't have
two minutes left, we could talk

982
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:25,800
about that today.
Dr. But.

983
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,000
And again, Dr. honestly, that
depends on your situation.

984
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,600
It depends on how much money is
left.

985
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,360
I mean, honestly, I'm a
capitalist.

986
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,600
I think you want to pay yourself
as much as you can.

987
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:41,160
And here's the simple answer,
Dr. If you've carved out enough

988
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:45,040
for taxes and you've carved out
enough to pay your bills for

989
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,680
this month, you know your
subscriptions, you gotta pay for

990
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:51,600
any equipment, any cost with
your business, then honestly, at

991
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,160
that point, everything else is
yours.

992
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:58,960
So spend it as you see fit.
So I hope that answers your

993
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:00,800
question.
So simple example, let's just

994
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,200
say you have $1000 that comes in
this week.

995
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:07,640
If you put out 25% for taxes,
that's $250.

996
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,520
That leaves $750.
They say never do math on a

997
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,080
podcast, but I'm gonna make it
work.

998
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,760
That leaves $750.
And then you say, well, I've got

999
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:19,320
to pay this subscription.
Let's just say another $250 is

1000
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,440
going out for bills you've
already agreed to.

1001
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:25,640
That leaves you $500 to me.
That's your money.

1002
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:29,360
Carve that out, put it into your
personal, you know, set aside

1003
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,720
account and that's what you can
spend simple.

1004
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:36,440
It's the revenue, the the net
revenue minus the tax vault

1005
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:38,720
minus whatever expenses are
still coming.

1006
00:50:38,720 --> 00:50:42,600
And that's why this weekly check
in is so vital because you're

1007
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:46,000
going to ask yourself those
three questions, what came in,

1008
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,840
what went out, and what is my
cash position?

1009
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,400
Because when you ask those three
questions, you're going to be

1010
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,800
able to look at this and say,
OK, here is objective

1011
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:57,040
information that I can use to
make decisions for the next

1012
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:58,480
week.
And you don't find yourself

1013
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,760
struggling and going in backward
directions.

1014
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:04,680
I see.
Thank you, Ralph.

1015
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,920
I appreciate it.
Oh, you're welcome anytime.

1016
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,400
Thank you, Ralph.
So any, anything else from you

1017
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:14,440
Ralph, before we wrap up today?
I just wanted to say this, I'm

1018
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:18,120
really excited about the topic
that I'm talking about today and

1019
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:22,360
I am sincere in saying if you
want to get on my calendar for a

1020
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:26,080
free 15 minute conversation,
we'll put a link in the show

1021
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,120
notes to do that.
But I'm passionate about this

1022
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,760
and I will help you figure out a
plan for you because everybody's

1023
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,760
different.
Everybody comes to this with

1024
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,880
different situations, different
reasons for what they're doing.

1025
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,360
Let me work with you to help you
build something and then you

1026
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,040
can, then you won't feel
overwhelmed anymore.

1027
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,680
You'll be like Sid who feels
very confident about his

1028
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,320
finances.
And that way we can move forward

1029
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,600
with a plan because again, this
isn't something that you were

1030
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,200
taught.
So don't judge yourself.

1031
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:57,760
Don't beat yourself up about it.
But now that you know, you know,

1032
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:58,960
and you got to do something
about it.

1033
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,920
Yeah, be a Sid, don't be a John.
John.

1034
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:06,720
I'm going to throw out, I'm
going to throw out something

1035
00:52:06,720 --> 00:52:08,560
from John's show.
You're not wrong, John.

1036
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:13,480
You're not wrong.
John, thank you for coming up

1037
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:17,720
today and and sharing and being
so candid and open about your

1038
00:52:17,720 --> 00:52:19,920
situation.
I think honestly, a lot of

1039
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:24,160
creators are in similar
positions, can relate to what

1040
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,600
you're sharing today.
So thank you for being that

1041
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,360
person today.
I think it really added a lot to

1042
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:33,080
this conversation.
And Ralph, thank you for hosting

1043
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,560
this conversation today and of
course, for also offering up

1044
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:41,840
your Rd. caster duo, which
people can apply or enter to to

1045
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:45,880
get their chance at your duo.
Just go to

1046
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:49,880
podcastingmorningchat.com/duo.
And a reminder, we're back

1047
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,200
tomorrow talking all things
podcasting.

1048
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:56,040
And if you have a question about
your podcasting journey that you

1049
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,560
want opinions from other
seasoned podcasters, by all

1050
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:03,000
means bring that tomorrow.
Or you can always go to our

1051
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:06,280
website and send in your
question to us, and we'll be

1052
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:09,960
happy to read that on this show
at a later time.

1053
00:53:10,240 --> 00:53:14,480
So until tomorrow, make it a
great day everybody take care.