353 - Our Favorite Podcasts and First Takes on GPT-5

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And morning podcasting morning
chat today is Friday, August the

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8th 2025 and today we're talking
about the launch of ChatGPT 5

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the pros and cons of being a
content creator.

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What is your go to platform
audio or video for consuming

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podcasts and what are the go to
podcasts that you must miss,

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must listen to or watch?
Can't miss each week or episode?

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And we're sharing our wins for
the week.

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You might notice Mark is not
here.

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He is out for the day traveling
to his event that he's be at

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next week.
So give us 30 seconds and we'll

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be right back and get this
conversation started.

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Good morning again, everyone.
I'm Sid Meadows and I'm your

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host this morning for the
podcasting morning chat.

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Mark is had to start his trip
early today to get to where he's

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going to be his count camp
counselor for next week.

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So the crew and I are holding
down the Fort this morning.

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So joining me, producer Ashley,
Dr. Nick and Jonathan are on

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stage.
Maybe we'll have some more

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people joining us.
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However, Clubhouse allows you to

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share it, invite some people in.
Fridays are a special day for us

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to share our wins and we got a
lot to talk about today.

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So we're going to go ahead and
get this party started.

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Nick, we're going to kick it off
with you and the launch of

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ChatGPT 5.
I know there was announcement

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yesterday.
I think Jonathan actually

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watched the live stream of the
announcement, so he might have a

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few things to add.
So Nick, take it away.

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Thanks.
Say, good morning everybody.

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And yeah, Jonathan, I, I
definitely want to hear from you

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because I wasn't able to catch
the whole live that I did

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yesterday.
But yes, we talked about it

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earlier this week during
Newsweek that GBT 5 was coming

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and surprise, it is here, just
launched, like officially

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launched it yesterday.
They had a whole event around

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it.
And it's probably one of the

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first times that they've
launched an upgrade.

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And the same day everybody I
believe should have access to it

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now and that it doesn't matter
if you're a free user, a paid

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user, you should have access to
GBT 5 in some form or fashion.

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One of the biggest things I know
we had a small discussion on

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Wednesday, DI brought it up when
or maybe as you said, when

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should we use the different
models, the GPG 4 O, the O3, the

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O 4, all of that.
That's going away.

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The models that the old models
that existed or that we've been

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using, I think after so many
days, they're basically

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eliminating them from the drop
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You can go back in the settings
and reactivate them if you

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really want to, but the whole
idea with GPT 5 now is there are

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different models with varying
degrees of complexity or

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reasoning, but you're not going
to have to think about that

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based on what you asked ChatGPT.
ChatGPT is going to decide if it

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needs to use a more complex
model for deeper reasoning and

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thinking or a simple model for
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So they're kind of taking that
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The AI is going to sort out
whether or not they need to do

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that or what needs to do.
I mean, you just get to ask the

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question, which is kind of cool.
Aside from that, which I think a

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lot of people are going to be
happy about there, there haven't

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been like phrasing features
added into ChatGPT with this new

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model.
It sounds like it's gotten a lot

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smarter, a lot faster, pretty
much like every upgrade that we

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get.
But one of the things that I

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don't believe was available in
ChatGPT up to this point was the

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ability to build apps on the
spot from a single prompt.

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You can type in what kind of
application, game, whatever it

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is you want, and ChatGPT can
build it, and you can use it

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right within ChatGPT.
Now, this was a feature in some

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of the other models like Gemini,
and Claude was the first one to

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do that.
But that's coming to ChatGPT

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now.
And from the few demos I saw, it

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was pretty darn impressive the
kind of applications it could

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build on, just a single prompt
that's kind of fun to play with.

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I would definitely check that
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It's if you've never done coding
like I hadn't done for the

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longest time and started playing
with these AI tools that can do

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it for you.
It's like the limits are endless

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what you can do with tools like
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So it's it's kind of fun to play
with, especially for your own

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personal needs or anything you
want to try building or see how

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what is possible.
It's pretty fun.

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Nick, thanks for sharing that.
Can you give us an example of an

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app that you would want to build
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I love that they're taking the
complexity because we did, I did

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ask that question how you know
which one to use.

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So I love they're taking that
away and they're going to just

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take that on their own and based
on your question, determine

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which model to use.
So that's really cool.

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But what's an example of an app
that you might just sit down in

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a few sentences, say hey, write
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It's not content related,
content related or podcast

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related, but I had built like a
budgeting and finance app and

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this was actually Gemini that I
did it, but I want to test it

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and tragic BT now where you
essentially I I created these

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different finance buckets.
So I had like my bills and then

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another bucket for subscriptions
and another bucket for maybe

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like eating out, things like
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And I was able to set specific
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And then I can log a
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So anytime I make a purchase, I
can log that transaction and

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say, OK, this was a bill or this
was dining out.

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And it essentially subtracts
from the budget that I had

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there.
So I know where I'm at with my

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finances.
That is an example.

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I, it wasn't a single prompt.
It worked for a single prompt,

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but then I continued to refine.
But that's what's kind of neat

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with this.
What they're calling vibe Coding

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is the app comes out and if you
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it, you just say change it.
I want this to function in a

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different way and then it
rewrites all the code and then

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the app functions in a new way.
So that's really cool and that's

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a very creative idea, right?
But when the use of the term

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app, I think about something,
you go to the Apple store, the

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Android store, and you download
and put on your phone.

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Will it take it all the way to
that level?

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Or is it just an app if you
will, that resides on ChatGPT?

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That's where the my
disappointment comes in because

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it is something that just
resides in ChatGPT.

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I've not having coding
background or experience.

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I've tried taking it to the
level of like, OK, let's put

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this in like a mobile app that I
can have on my phone and there

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are a lot of complexities that I
don't understand.

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So I haven't been able to
actually get it on my phone yet.

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Yeah, that is the limitations
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It's a web app is more the term
and it does live within ChatGPT

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itself.
And then if you do have the

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coding experience or the the
background or using AI to

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probably figure out how to get
it into an actual application.

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But yeah, I haven't.
I haven't gotten that even.

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Would be really interesting to
think about and then we're going

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to go to Jonathan.
It would be really interesting

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to think about how you could
take like the transcripts of

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your podcast and upload them all
into ChatGPT and make some kind

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of app out of it where it's like
ask the podcast guest a question

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or something.
I don't know if you're really

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interesting to see how you could
take the content you've already

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used, turn it into an app that
people could start using, you

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could share, people could start
using to get more knowledge, if

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you will, from your podcast
guest.

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That would be pretty
interesting.

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All right, Jonathan, you watch
the the announcement and that

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was called the party.
What were your thoughts about

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it?
Do you really want to know my

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thoughts?
You need to take some lessons

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from Apple on how to tell a
story because man, it was boring

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and dry.
There was actually one really

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good story about a woman who
would was going through cancer

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and how ChatGPT kind of helped
her even make decisions that her

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doctors weren't willing to help
her make.

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That was a It was a really sweet
story, but that was the only

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one.
However, a few things ChatGPT 5

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is now out and all the other
models are no longer in the drop

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down.
You have ChatGPT 5, which is

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listed as their flagship.
Let me double check quickly

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yeah, their flagship model and
then it says other models and

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that's GPT 5 thinking and then
the upgrade, which is GPT 5 Pro

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So and that's the $200 one.
So yeah, it's already out.

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Couple things that did come with
five is it supposedly has faster

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image generation and it
obviously goes like Nick said

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between the two and I believe
there's Sora video generation in

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faster Sora video generation
within the plus model.

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I'm guessing you probably still
need credits for that.

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I'm not sure how Sora works.
I haven't used it.

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I only.
Use Google VO.

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They definitely focused a lot on
coding in the live yesterday and

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there's a lot that it can do
coding wise, but it was really

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boring so I didn't pay 100%
attention to what they were

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doing.
They made a lot of apps.

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They OK, they made a lot of
apps.

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Is it living on YouTube and I
didn't see that Dr. has a

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question for you.
Is it living on YouTube,

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Jonathan?
I believe it is, yes.

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OK, I might have to go try and
watch this boring announcement.

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Dr. What is?
Boring.

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Is this rollout happening like
Jonathan, do you have the $20

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version or do you have the $200
version?

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I have the $20 version.
OK.

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And yours is already.
You're already looking at GPT 5,

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right?
You're not.

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As of yesterday, at the time of
the announcement, yes.

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I'm looking at mine and I still
have the little drop down menu.

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Refresh on your browser button
because I had to refresh on my

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browser button yesterday and it
popped right in.

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OK, yeah I just hit refreshed
and it is still.

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I still got the down menu of all
the different.

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Are you a paid member, doctor?
I am, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a $20

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member, yeah.
My guess is like with a lot of

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these, they push it out, they
start rolling it out to all the

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users.
So I would say within for sure

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within the week, I would imagine
you'd have access to it, but OK,

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you could try logging out of it
and logging back in and

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sometimes that'll take a refund
on it.

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OK, great.
Thank you.

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So there was also a question in
down in the chat that Michael

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brought up, which is can you
export the code for the app and

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put it somewhere it could live
on your website?

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Nick is saying yes, you can do
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Nick, can you talk about that
for just a minute?

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So when Jet GPT writes these
apps and does all the coding

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stuff, it actually gives you all
of the code.

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So yeah, you can see the the app
and like use the app that it

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creates.
Then it also gives you the code

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as well.
So you can take that code and

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bring it over into something
like your website or in another

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more traditional code editing
software to build an app.

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Well, so Michael, I've played
around with something like what

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Michael's talking about
specifically.

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It is very important that if
you're going to do something

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like that, say you want to
change something on your

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website, you don't understand
how to do it.

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You can take, you can get
ChatGPT to do that for you, but

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it needs to have contacts of
your website.

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Like if you just say build me a
web page that has XY and Z on

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it, it can do that.
But there's so much going on in

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the background of your actual
website, like your host, your,

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your website theme, if you're
using WordPress, like all these

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different factors that play into
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So if you're going to do that to
update your website

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specifically, you want to make
sure that you give it as much

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information and potentially even
some of the code from your

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actual website, because then
chat BT is going to have a

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better understanding of how the
website is structured, what is

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all involved.
There's some plug insurance that

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it has to factor in and you
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rewrite code to completely
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code, copy it into like where
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I've learned that a lot of the

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contacts, then it sends me down
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more information about my
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We have to completely redo this
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correctly.
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to become a quote UN quote vibe
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Like that or not, it's up in the
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Well, I would say that I think
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come out of this and what you
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If any of you decide to do that
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your website or something, come
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how you used it and give us the
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too.
I think it would be a pretty

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good thing, right?
So any other comments about

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ChatGPT?
Michael, I see you're making

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another comment in the chat.
Let me see.

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Do you think that that would let
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OK, so that's about control and
which one, which parts can it

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change?
Which parts can it change?

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OK, that's above my pay grade.
Nick, you got anything you want

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to add to that?
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I would test it.
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like Clot started doing Gemini
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it builds is more like the front
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works.
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or not, usually every time with
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end where all of that
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like a database.
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front end of it and you go put
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start fresh?
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information stored, like my
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talking about before, I want
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at.
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Just store that information.
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test out.
My God, I don't have a solid

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answer.
Jonathan, do you have anything?

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don't know where that back end
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functional, I would guess the
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page that you're keeping.
Adam says as long as you

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integrate into your into your
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So there we go.
I just checked and I do have it.

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I actually put a note in the
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as well that it's really
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It's got Blues and oranges and
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because it's not a white screen
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I do think as with anything new,
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before you and they'll be a lot
of chatter about this online and

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whatever platform is your
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chatter about this topic and
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I just would encourage you to do
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research before you dive too
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or doing something.
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what it does and doesn't do and
how it will and will not impact

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you and your work before you go
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And so I think it's just
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that Dr. you back.
Not yet, sorry.

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Not yet.
OK, no worries, we'll move on to

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the next story.
So we have another not even

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another story.
DRS got something she's going to

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talk about, but so before we so
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question.
We'd love for any of you guys to

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come up and right raise your
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answer this question.
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what's your go to platform?
Whether it's audio or video?

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There's a two-part question like
what's your go to platform audio

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or video for consuming a
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And when you think about it,
what is your go to the say shows

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podcasts that you just can't
miss each week or each time that

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they drop an episode?
So Jonathan, do you have

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something that's like go to
Well, first of all, what's your

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preferred platform audio video?
And then what's like a couple of

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shows that you just make sure
that you listen to the minute

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they come out.
Apple Podcasts and Coffee Social

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and The Story Lab Obviously
those would be the only ones

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that you're not to miss.
You've already heard them much

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though.
Well, yeah, but still I get to

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hear them again on my favorite
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I also do you listen to a few
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I'll give one of my guilty
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I listen to the Debate the News
podcast when I'm not there live

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participating in that podcast.
And it's called Debate the News.

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Yes.
OK, that's pretty cool.

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Is it both sides debating the
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the news?
All sides debating the news.

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Sometimes it's OK, sometimes
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OK, that's interesting.
Long episode so.

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Yeah, I've noticed this trend of

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episodes getting longer and
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An hour and 15, the next ones an
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hours.
I'm like, Oh my gosh, guys,

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let's quit.
All right, Ashley, what's tell

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you on this question?
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I use a combination of Spotify
and Apple, and the podcast that

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I can't miss is called 20,000
Hertz and it is by an audio

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engineer and podcast producer
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And 20,000 Hertz is all about
recognizable and interesting

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sounds.
DRI saw one the other day that I

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thought of you it he goes and he
interviews the mix engineer and

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the person who does all the cues
for Jeopardy and they show how

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their board works and how the
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It was very interesting.
So I would love that.

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Ashley, what was the name of
that show again?

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That's called 20,000 Hertz and
it's by Dallas.

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Taylor I would love that.
I am a Jeopardy fanatic.

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Today is Friday, so Friday we
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drinking a little bit and we
think that where the funniest

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thing is going my.
Goodness, it's Nick.

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What about you?
What's your listening platform?

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And then what's like a couple of
shows that you just make sure

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you have to consume?
So the app that I use is called

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Snipped SNIPD, fairly new.
I feel like we talked about it

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here in the morning chat before,
but it's got some AI summarizing

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and stuff like that built into
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But I haven't been listening to
a lot of podcasts.

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I've been on a big audio book
yet so, but I've been behind on

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a lot of the podcasts.
You're spreading out your

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knowledge base there, which is
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So nobody's come up and join us
just yet, but drop down into the

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into the chat.
Like what's your #1 show that

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you listen to like every week or
every episode that launches?

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What is it that you're listening
to so that we can just all kind

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of know?
Dr. Did you have a question?

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I was going to give you my
little list.

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All right, well go give us your
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OK I'm an Android girls so I
listen to on pocket podcast.

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I am an audio only, an audio
only kind of gal and my go to's

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are the feed.
They come out once every other

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week and boy they just.
If you are lacking in podcast

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knowledge, this gives you St.
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Just regurgitating some of the
stuff that they say every other

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week.
It gives you a little St. cred.

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It's really good.
Also, I like business podcast

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spotlight.
The host of that is Megan

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Doherty and I do like that one.
I'm looking at my huge array

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here of of things that I
subscribe to the podcast manager

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show.
I'm always listening to that,

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you know, I just have so many.
But those are those are my go

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TOS.
So I'm with EDRI have so many

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that I mean almost too many.
I did go in last week and clear

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out some that I hadn't listened
to in a while just to get up

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the, you know, my up next feed
on Apple cleared a little bit.

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But there's a couple that just
like for me that I just don't

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miss, which is our leaders lead
by David Novak.

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I talked about that one before
Finding Mastery by Doctor

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Michael Gervais.
I've also mentioned that before.

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I love listening to the story
Lab Jonathan, you do an amazing

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job with that.
I also really like Katie

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Brinkley show Rocky Mountain
Marketing and then her Sideshow.

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That's her 9 minutes, less than
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giving a really quick little
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And then I've got a couple of
real estate shows that I listen

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to because my real estate
investing faster freedom show.

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I mean, unfortunately, I have
way too many that I'd listen to

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on a regular basis.
I think I might be able to raise

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my hand and say I have a
problem.

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And so anybody want to add
anything to What show are you

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listening to?
Hopefully not podcasting morning

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chat this morning.
We're a little messy, but it's

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OK.
Yes.

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All right, so I got to find this
story.

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There was a story that was on
Reddit that Dr. found that we

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thought was really interesting.
It was actually a question.

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I'm going to let you take it
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This was spurred on by a
subreddit that I found under

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content creators.
And we know that everything is

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not always a, you know, a bed of
roses.

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So let's end the this particular
segment on a high note.

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So give me your top cons and
then follow it up with your top

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pros.
Ashley, let's go to you first.

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The top cons I would say
grappling with, I know this is

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an ever used word, imposter
syndrome, having confidence,

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finding confidence, believing in
what I'm doing all the time.

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And I would say that the best
thing about being a content

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creator is I actually think of
myself as a multi faceted

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content artist.
I tend to adopt the frame of

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make art, not content, although
I know there is a distinction,

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but I think that they're making
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I get to be more creative.
So I'd say that's the big pro.

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Awesome, awesome, Nick, how
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I would say con wise I'm a
textbook over thinker and I

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will.
Get very.

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Deep into my head about the
different types of content that

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I want to create kind of get
trapped in the topics in the

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videos themselves.
So for me that is the biggest

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con is that I introduce a an
opportunity for me to.

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Way over think everything.
The pros I like creating, I like

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the the video editing process.
I like building new things and

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learning how to create cool
effects and videos and things

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like that.
So I it's just, I don't know, I

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I like learning, I like
exploring and creating.

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Simple as that.
Awesome, awesome Jonathan.

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What is it about content
creation that just bugs the crap

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out of you?
Well, very little, because it's

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what I teach when I love to do.
But the opportunity for the

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overwhelm, I'll say that that's
one of those things that can get

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in a way is that opportunity for
the overwhelm.

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So that's something that is a
con, a pro, all of it.

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I enjoy the creativity.
I enjoy the ability to actually,

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you know, come up with ideas,
actually think them through,

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learn about new ideas.
But yeah, I do content and I

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teach people how to do content.
So I have to love it.

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Awesome.
Did you're up?

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So for me, one of the cons is
just the Jonathan and Nick

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talked about this a little bit.
It's just like the focusing in

451
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,800
on the idea, like the topic,
like what is the thing I'm going

452
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,560
to talk about?
Because I end up having so many

453
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,360
ideas, right?
And so I get a little

454
00:25:21,360 --> 00:25:23,960
overwhelmed with it.
I overthink it.

455
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:28,400
I write down ideas and then I
make a video like all that sucks

456
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,560
and you know, those kinds of
things.

457
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,360
But so that part for me is like,
what's the thing I want to talk

458
00:25:34,360 --> 00:25:37,040
about today?
Then I also say that the other

459
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,680
thing that I'm struggling with
right now, Jonathan, I should

460
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,040
jump into your challenge.
Like what are my pillars of the

461
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,720
things I want to talk about and
does it need to be consistent

462
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:50,200
across all platforms?
And so I'm thinking about that a

463
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,240
little bit.
What do I, what do I love about

464
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:53,680
it?
And what I think are some of the

465
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,320
pros is I really enjoy making
videos.

466
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,440
I think they're easy to make.
I hate adding editing them,

467
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,000
right?
But I really enjoy like the

468
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,960
actual creation of the video
more so than I do like creating

469
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:10,000
text and images post.
But I really enjoy, you know,

470
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,680
creating videos.
It's a lot of fun to me.

471
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,760
I love doing different, you
know, scenes walking around my

472
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,080
yard and that kind of stuff.
So there's a lot to love about

473
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,480
it.
But I think just getting clear

474
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,160
on what it is I want to talk
about and why I want to talk

475
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:23,880
about it is probably my biggest
struggle.

476
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:30,840
Agreed, For me it's always
coming up with something new and

477
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,280
when I say something new I just
because I know that there's

478
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,600
really nothing new.
It's all it's just coming up

479
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,800
with a different angle of
something and making it sound

480
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:45,480
new.
And I'm a creative, so my most

481
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,880
creative moments are when I'm
near water, if I'm in a pool, if

482
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,720
I'm going to shower, if I'm in
the ocean, anything like that.

483
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,880
For some reason, that's when I
get all of these really creative

484
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,680
ideas.
It is crazy.

485
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,920
I had an astrologer do my chart
and she said, well, it she's not

486
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,640
surprised because, and I don't
know what this means, she says

487
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,560
because I'm a double Cancer,
which is double moon child.

488
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,960
I'm not sure what that has to do
with it, but she she nodded her

489
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,080
head all the way through when I
was talking about this.

490
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:22,000
Anyway, I love getting this
formulation in my head and then

491
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:26,240
kind of as I'm doing my swimming
laps, kind of reverse

492
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,800
engineering it and then getting
into the kitchen or getting in

493
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,120
front of my computer and making
it happen.

494
00:27:34,120 --> 00:27:39,840
So the little mustard seed of a,
of an idea that happens in my

495
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:44,520
mind to the fruition of it.
So that's what I like the most.

496
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:46,760
I think that's all very
interesting.

497
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,080
It's great to hear everybody's
thoughts.

498
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,080
We'd love to hear from all of
you down in the audience to

499
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,680
either drop over in the chat or
raise your hand and come up on

500
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,520
stage.
Moderators up here, we're kind

501
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,120
of lonely this morning and hint,
so come and share with us.

502
00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:01,200
Like what do you think are the
pros and cons of content

503
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:05,400
creation?
And we did have a question down

504
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,760
in the chat that Adam Ash, which
I think this is a really great

505
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,480
question, which since there's so
much AI generated content, does

506
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,840
that make you feel deflating
content?

507
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,960
Anybody want to take that?
Get me started, Adam.

508
00:28:20,360 --> 00:28:24,120
So there is a lot of AI
generated content and to me

509
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:29,720
that's the content that feels
fake almost because it's not.

510
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,920
People aren't putting their
original thought into it.

511
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,360
I don't get deflated by it
because people can tell what's

512
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,760
real, what's not.
I'm not going to go off on a

513
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,000
tirade.
But actually, actually, Ashley,

514
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,120
we should put this down as a
topic to talk about one day,

515
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,760
maybe when Mark is back because
I think this would be a really

516
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,480
good topic about AI generated
content versus original content.

517
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,480
And since we've had a couple
people join us on stage.

518
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,760
Thank you both.
So Janae, what would you like to

519
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,440
add to this conversation?
And good morning.

520
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:01,240
Good morning everyone.
That is a beautiful question.

521
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,880
And I, and I said in the
comments, no, it does not

522
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,560
deflate me because just
yesterday I spoke with a 30 plus

523
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,640
year publisher on the podcast
and they asked him, what do you

524
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:13,760
think?
Right.

525
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,560
You're a publisher, you're
publishing book.

526
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,720
What do you think of this AI
generated content?

527
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,920
It's like, yes, the number has
risen up on how much content is

528
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:25,880
being created, but guess what?
It doesn't have the human aspect

529
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,160
of it.
And that's how you can tell the

530
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,960
difference.
It does a lot of the grammar,

531
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,760
the correction, sentence,
formatting work for you, but it

532
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,560
doesn't have the human story.
So I did a video about this the

533
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:42,240
other day on LinkedIn, Janae
this very topic because so many

534
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,840
people use AI and type in and
I'm just going to use the

535
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,640
example using the video, write
me an 800 word article about

536
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,240
this topic and include these
three points.

537
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,560
Well, within a minute you got an
800 word or so article.

538
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,240
You can copy it, paste it to
your website, and now you have a

539
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,080
blog, right?
If that's what you want to do.

540
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,160
It's totally AI generated and it
doesn't have any of your

541
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,480
original thoughts or any of your
original ideas.

542
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,200
And I think a better way to use
it is to brainstorm it.

543
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,880
And I love doing this with chat
TPT and taking it and say, OK, I

544
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,200
want to write an article about
this.

545
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:16,960
And I want to include these
three points.

546
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,280
But before you draft the
article, I'd like for you to ask

547
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:25,080
me a series of up to 10
questions, one at a time so that

548
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,440
I can add my thoughts to this.
And then it does it, it asks me

549
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,280
a question.
I typically am using the voice

550
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,320
mode when I do this so I can
just talk to it rather than try

551
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,680
to formulate my thoughts and,
and typing, right.

552
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,840
And then it goes through the
questions and then I say, OK,

553
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,160
now write a draft.
And then I get a much better

554
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:43,880
draft.
And then I think the key to what

555
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:49,120
you hit on Janae is it now
includes my ideas, my original

556
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,880
thoughts and my, you know, what
I'm thinking about this

557
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,720
particular topic.
And then I can post something

558
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,880
and feel confident about the
fact that.

559
00:30:56,200 --> 00:31:00,920
Yeah, I used AI to help me and
not do it for me.

560
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,480
And personally I think that's a
better way.

561
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,160
It takes longer, but I think
that's a better way to use it

562
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,400
because it is again, coming back
to these are my thoughts and

563
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,560
these are my ideas and I'm
sharing them.

564
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,080
So I really enjoyed the
brainstorming back and forth

565
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,240
with the with the two different
platform.

566
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,000
Where's the platform?
So thank you for sharing that.

567
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,440
Good morning, Matthew.
Anything you'd like to add to

568
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,200
this conversation?
You too the wind out of my sail,

569
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,400
Sid, I was going to come in here
and ask, sorry, the actual

570
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,840
question I wanted to, which was
OK.

571
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,360
You know, when you see AI
generated content out there, but

572
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,040
think about how many how much
content you look at that you

573
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,480
don't know was generated with
AI.

574
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,920
And maybe that should be a good
barometer for us to check gut

575
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,680
check ourselves when we use it.
But then of course, Sid, you

576
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,520
came in with a brilliant way to
integrate the human and the bot

577
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,240
and put it together into
something that allows you to

578
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,160
very quickly create a piece of
work that probably answers that

579
00:31:58,160 --> 00:31:59,840
question and falls into that
camp.

580
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,640
A really interesting part of
what the discussion around this

581
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,480
at the moment is the easy
reaction step that I see a lot

582
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,520
on LinkedIn to I've cause I've
started using it a little bit

583
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,000
more as now that I've released
my podcast, I'm trying to do

584
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,560
social media properly again.
And I'm just seeing so many

585
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:21,560
posts talking about how AI bad
this AI bad that, hate seeing AI

586
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,640
slop.
And my immediate gut reaction

587
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,480
is, yeah, absolutely.
I just don't read it.

588
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,840
If I pick up that it's it's got
that AI edge to it.

589
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:35,840
But then I think to ask a
subsidiary question, if I'm

590
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:42,000
ignoring it, why does it matter?
And the with like what Jenae was

591
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:46,840
saying, it doesn't make you make
any other content less valuable.

592
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,840
It just makes it harder to find.
And the thing that I would fear

593
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,120
with the gut check, the
immediate gut check that we do,

594
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,200
the reaction to it that's so
visceral and against these

595
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,960
things like unfortunately the M
dash has suffered greatly as a

596
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,040
result of whatever changes they
made to chat.

597
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:09,200
GP4A very legitimate bit of
punctuation and someone that I

598
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:15,360
do a live stream with weekly has
a partner who says, well, if the

599
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,160
M dash has appeared in a lot of
writing out of ChatGPT, it's

600
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,120
probably because a lot of humans
used it like that's why it's

601
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,400
popping up.
It's a reflection of of what it

602
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:24,920
the data that it's been trained
on.

603
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:30,680
But all that is to say that the
I find that I find that amusing.

604
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,920
Jonathan not legit American
punctuation.

605
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,080
I love the idea of American
being a language.

606
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,040
When it's based on English, I
say that.

607
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,120
In The Australian.
Colonial state as well off off

608
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,080
the back of English being able
to say Australian.

609
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,360
But yeah, but I'm I'm kind of
rambling at this point.

610
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,440
What I want to get at is what's
the next point?

611
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:53,360
What's the mediation point
between this sucks and this is

612
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,480
authentic human.
That brings us to the stage

613
00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:01,560
where AI becomes an accepted
tool that people use in a way

614
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,360
that's acceptable and hits that
median balance.

615
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,639
Because I, I don't think we're,
we're too far along now for us

616
00:34:09,639 --> 00:34:12,040
to be able to pick one side or
the other.

617
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,120
Kind of like American politics,
we need moderates in the middle.

618
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:20,560
And I'm getting tired at myself
getting angry at seeing a lot of

619
00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:22,360
AI posts.
So I'm trying to think a little

620
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,639
bit beyond it.
It's really interesting.

621
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,320
Like how do you bridge the gap
between the two, right.

622
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,360
And I have some thoughts, but I
see that Nick wanted to comment.

623
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,040
Go ahead, Nick.
I kind of see all of this being

624
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:37,040
a little bit more problematic is
a lot of people's gut reactions

625
00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:43,360
as if something is done well or
is cool or I don't know, is

626
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,120
impressive that they find
online.

627
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:50,280
The first gut reaction is this
is AI, and there's a lot of

628
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,840
cases like scrolling through
Facebook and things like that,

629
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:57,680
that you come across a picture
or something and everyone in the

630
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,280
comments just ripping it apart
saying this is AI, this is AI,

631
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,120
this is AI, when in fact it's
not.

632
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,760
That kind of hurts the actual
creator, the artist.

633
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,120
And then vice versa, you'll have
AI generated stuff where

634
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,120
everyone's like, Oh my gosh,
you're so talented, this is so

635
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:12,320
amazing.
And I was like, OK, well that's

636
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,120
clearly AI generated right now.
I feel like there's no

637
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,840
differentiating.
It's just assumption and people

638
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,680
just die on that pedestal.
That's where I kind of struggle

639
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,840
with it the most.
Yeah, it's also a good point.

640
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,360
Like Sharon put this down in the
comments and I struggle with

641
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:28,800
this.
How do you identify if something

642
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,600
is written by AI versus not or
AI generated content versus not?

643
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,080
Sometimes I have a really hard
time.

644
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,400
Sometimes it's super easy.
Like somebody posted A blog post

645
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,320
the other day and I was reading
through it and I'm like, well,

646
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:45,400
this is all AI generated.
Like even the format of it, like

647
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,360
I can tell based on the format
of the way ChatGPT put things

648
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,760
out.
Like this entire thing is AI

649
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,960
generated, so it's hard to tell.
Matthew, I see you have a

650
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,000
question, but I want to go to
Jonathan and then we'll come to

651
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:56,680
you.
Oh, go ahead, Nick.

652
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,600
Just before if we do that to
speak to what you're saying, my

653
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,520
question to you would be, does
it matter if it's AI generated

654
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,320
or human generated?
The short answer I think is no.

655
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,320
Yeah, I think the short answer
is no, Nick.

656
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:12,440
I don't know that it really
matters.

657
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:16,160
As long as it's as long as it's
scroll stopping content that's

658
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:20,520
easy and good to consume and has
an impact for me, then I don't

659
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,800
know that I care where it came
from.

660
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,280
And again, it's hard for me to
tell.

661
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,600
That's kind of how I picture it
too.

662
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,280
It's like people spend so much
time trying to figure out is it

663
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,480
AI?
Is it not AI when it should be?

664
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,920
Is it this helpful or does this
benefit me or am I giving

665
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,280
enjoyment out of it or whatever
like that?

666
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,080
That's the whole point of
consuming the content.

667
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,040
That's why you're on there.
Doesn't matter if it's AI or

668
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,720
human created.
Is it having an impact like you

669
00:36:45,720 --> 00:36:50,280
said, that that's, yeah, I think
that's a a cultural mindset

670
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,360
shift in general with AI that we
just haven't got to because it's

671
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:54,880
still so new.
Yeah, I agree.

672
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,480
It's still so new.
That's why I say, All right,

673
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:00,600
Jonathan, what you got, ma'am?
Just going on what Nick said, I

674
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,200
think it matters.
I think especially on platforms

675
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,600
like LinkedIn where people are
proclaiming their thought

676
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,120
leadership, it matters if
they're not thinking.

677
00:37:10,240 --> 00:37:13,680
I think you've got to, if you're
a leader in your niche, you got

678
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,000
to think about things for real.
You got to put those ideas down

679
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,640
yourself.
And sure, AI can help you.

680
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,240
If you train your AI well, it
will help you.

681
00:37:23,240 --> 00:37:26,480
It will sound like you and it
will create content in a way

682
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,920
that you create content, but
you've got to do that work.

683
00:37:29,240 --> 00:37:32,160
If you're a thought leader, if
you're on LinkedIn proclaiming

684
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,920
that, then you better be
thinking, I think.

685
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,160
I think it matters.
The stories that you add into

686
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,720
your content, the little thing,
do you do that or you make a

687
00:37:41,720 --> 00:37:44,880
huge difference in whether your
content consumable or if it's

688
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,240
just the same same old and spit
out by ChatGPT?

689
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,840
In our new business on our
company page, one of the things

690
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:56,800
that we wanted to do was to make
big bold statements about the

691
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,720
industry and about some of the
challenges in the industry in

692
00:37:59,720 --> 00:38:02,520
order to drive conversation.
And we going to do that in a

693
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:06,200
mixture of text, blog and then
video.

694
00:38:06,240 --> 00:38:09,720
And we posted one of them this
week and I did it in a video

695
00:38:09,720 --> 00:38:14,760
format, but I brainstorm with
chat GT to your point jumped in.

696
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,400
I have a folder that has all of
our information about the

697
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,040
collaborative network in it.
And so I went in there and said,

698
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:26,320
Hey, let's let's brainstorm some
big bold statements that are, I

699
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,560
think he's worth shock value,
but have a little bit of shock

700
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:32,200
value in him to stop the scroll,
right, to get people to engage.

701
00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:35,280
And so I spent about 30 minutes
brainstorming with it, who broke

702
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:36,920
it into various different
topics.

703
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:38,760
And then I could put it into a
Word document.

704
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:39,960
Then I went through the Word
document.

705
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,960
I took out some of the things
that weren't really relative,

706
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,920
relative.
And then I changed some of the

707
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,680
wording of things that be more
industry specific ways.

708
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,400
And now we're, to your point
about thought leadership, That's

709
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,360
what our position is, is to try
to create thought leadership

710
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,840
content that drives
conversations, that makes people

711
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,840
think differently about things
in order to potentially have a

712
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,880
positive impact in their
business, right?

713
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:05,960
And so I think it's this, that
content is at least the topics

714
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,520
or a combination of our thoughts
and ChatGPT sauce.

715
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:13,000
But then the content we're
putting out around it is our

716
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,760
thoughts, right?
It's 100% our original ideas,

717
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,840
how we're backing up those
statements because they're

718
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,280
either done in a, in a written
text format or in a video format

719
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,200
for the most part.
So US talking or me talking

720
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,440
about them to really try to
drive conversations.

721
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,520
So I do agree with you that, you
know, if you're really trying to

722
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:33,640
be a thought leader, then it
should be your thoughts and not

723
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,800
just a eyes.
But with that, I'd want to head

724
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,120
over to Matthew.
Go ahead, Matt.

725
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,760
I love where the direction of
this conversation is going

726
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,760
because it starts to ask some
really deep and important

727
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,960
questions about our interactions
with each other.

728
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,960
Nick mentioning that it doesn't
matter if it's AI generated or

729
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,160
human generated.
Jonathan talking about how it

730
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:57,360
absolutely is because humans
need to put in the effort to

731
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:01,120
share their ideas.
This comes up to a really

732
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:05,240
fundamental question about
whether the value is the origin

733
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,080
or the outcome.
It's a very philosophical one,

734
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,640
which I'm very glad has come up
finally after doing my new

735
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,080
podcast Angle is bringing
philosophy into.

736
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,120
And I'm really glad you guys
shoehorned it in for me.

737
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,480
Is it about the destination or
the journey?

738
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,960
Is it about the value or how it
was built?

739
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:29,560
And I think that asks some very
fundamental questions about the

740
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,760
nature of consciousness and all
those kinds of things.

741
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:36,200
But what I would urge people do
when they're deciding for

742
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:40,360
themselves, because I think
going for the collective median

743
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,800
as an opinion on something like
this is where we're running into

744
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,800
problems like the M dash being
an issue, a flag for AI anywhere

745
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,320
or people, as Nick said, asking
the question, is this AI,

746
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,560
whether it is or not, whether
they continue reading that value

747
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:58,400
or not, or whether the entire
values completely disappeared.

748
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,720
For that reason, do a thought
experiment, a couple of thought

749
00:41:01,720 --> 00:41:05,440
experiments with a few examples
in your head, and try and figure

750
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:12,000
out where you land ethically,
existentially, metaphysically,

751
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,800
with where all these things hit.
Thought experiments like you

752
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,920
find out that your favorite
creator who's given you the best

753
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,440
advice for the last 10 years has
had every social media account

754
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:26,000
run by a team member and you
don't know the origin of the

755
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,480
content or where that's come
from.

756
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:32,760
Do you still value them as a
creator or is it completely null

757
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,520
and void?
And do you go back to square 1

758
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:39,040
and completely ignore them?
Or if it's entirely run by a

759
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:43,120
singular person and then they
trip up and all of a sudden an

760
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,080
opinion or something they've
shared is completely off the

761
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,520
mark and entirely against
everything they've done?

762
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,880
Does that make a re evaluation
of what they've done over the

763
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,640
entire course of their posting
career invaluable?

764
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,920
And you'll probably notice the
kind of examples I'm sharing are

765
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:05,600
things that we consider people
get cancelled so easily these

766
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,120
days because they accidentally
put a Nazi thing on a post.

767
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,040
But we've also got AI bots who
it only takes 10 minutes of

768
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,320
interactions with humans to turn
into big Nazi bot net

769
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,880
generators.
Like I guess what I'm trying to

770
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:23,040
say is that when you're trying
to come up with your opinion

771
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,440
about it, take a few end range
examples.

772
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,600
And when I say thought
experiment, I don't mean think

773
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,040
about it.
I mean, put it in a box in a

774
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:36,120
vacuum with a set of constraints
that are entirely controlled

775
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:40,440
that pushes a scenario to an end
zone that is probably incredibly

776
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:44,160
unlikely or totally unrealistic.
And see what the outcome is when

777
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,000
you think about it.
And try and make a few decisions

778
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,880
based on that.
And then update your thought

779
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,960
experiments every couple of
weeks as new updates come out

780
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,880
for different applications.
But I really love the

781
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,400
metaphysical and particularly
the consciousness aspect of this

782
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,360
discussion.
Like in two years when we have

783
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:08,160
AGI and AI or LLMS are
considered conscious, does that

784
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,880
mean Jonathan's opinion is all
of a sudden completely invalid

785
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:15,000
and he has to accept that AI
being conscious is now a thought

786
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,720
leader?
Like those questions I think are

787
00:43:17,720 --> 00:43:20,320
really interesting.
They don't necessarily help us

788
00:43:20,720 --> 00:43:24,720
with being overwhelmed with
content creation, but I do find

789
00:43:24,720 --> 00:43:27,320
them incredibly interesting.
Yeah, certainly a topic we could

790
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,760
talk about for quite a while.
And we're really getting posted

791
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,680
the top of the hour.
So we saw Wednesday share best.

792
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,240
Thanks for joining us this
morning.

793
00:43:34,240 --> 00:43:35,840
What would you like to add to
this conversation?

794
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,640
Great to see you friend.
Hey, hey, Jonathan brings up a

795
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,600
good point.
You know, the thought

796
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,080
leadership, I'll just tell you
what's going on in the career

797
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,880
world, but a lot of career
coaches out there saying, hey, I

798
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,560
can help you get through the
ATS.

799
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:52,040
So they do these AI resumes and
they do get through the ATS.

800
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:56,160
But in talking to my recruiter
friends, and I'm talking senior

801
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,320
recruiters, not just, you know,
they rolled out of bed and

802
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,440
started yesterday.
They're telling me that they

803
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:06,240
can't put these people come in,
can put two sentences together

804
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:10,080
and that they're totally weak
and they're looking for senior

805
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,520
level positions.
The recruiter said, you know,

806
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:16,120
I'm just not going to post
anymore because I'm just going

807
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,720
to go find my person.
So that hurts the job search.

808
00:44:18,720 --> 00:44:21,440
So here's the other side of the
what we call the boomerang

809
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,520
effect in our industry.
The other thing too is that

810
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:30,160
hiring leaders are seeing what
they consider an AI influenced

811
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:34,360
resume and they're telling my
senior friend recruiters take

812
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:38,440
them out of the consideration.
I've seen this before, so it's

813
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,720
OK to be imperfect.
And I'll tell you this, you

814
00:44:40,720 --> 00:44:43,320
know, as you understand where
you're coming from, here's what

815
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:47,400
happens as US marketers keep
repeating the word let's be

816
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,520
authentic.
And we've gone on that theme of

817
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,880
being authentic and then now,
you know, we want to be

818
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,720
authentic with AI.
And Jonathan brings up a great

819
00:44:55,720 --> 00:44:57,400
point.
You know, if you're a thought

820
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,640
leader, you know, what kind of
thought leader are you?

821
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:04,200
Can you get up on stage and spew
some thoughts or you can't?

822
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:08,880
So I just think, you know, hey,
if you want to be authentic, I

823
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,800
think you can still use AI.
You just kind of, you know,

824
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:15,280
partner with it and do it to
where it's still in your voice.

825
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,880
So I'll just landed there.
Thanks for letting me share my

826
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,440
thoughts.
Well, you're always welcome on

827
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,240
this stage and I think it's
really interesting to see how AI

828
00:45:23,240 --> 00:45:26,520
is impacting other industries
and potentially people getting

829
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:30,160
job by, you know, leaning too
heavily on it, which does have

830
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:31,880
the whole nother conversation
about the balance.

831
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,640
So we're going to wrap this
conversation up with you

832
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,400
Matthew, and then we'll head
into our win.

833
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,400
So take it away.
Very quick one, authenticity.

834
00:45:39,720 --> 00:45:42,760
A very good meaning to ask
oneself today.

835
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:48,040
Like sometimes authenticity
means completely unedited, even

836
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,880
though it's, you know, useless
content or has no value or

837
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,520
goals.
Or maybe it doesn't need to,

838
00:45:54,720 --> 00:45:57,480
maybe it's not entertaining.
But what does authenticity mean

839
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,160
when you put things forward?
I think the way you landed their

840
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,480
Bez was what Sid put forward
before.

841
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,320
Like it has to be whatever it
is.

842
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:08,320
Like what is thought leadership?
Define that instead of what

843
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,240
LinkedIn or companies try to
tell us.

844
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,440
It is like answering a bunch of
questions in a social media

845
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,120
platform.
The definitions of words today

846
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,480
also on that same level as the
thought experiments that we do,

847
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:25,480
thinking about the the conscious
and metaphysical aspects of, you

848
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,360
know, AI and our interactions
with it.

849
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,840
That is all.
Well, what a great conversation

850
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,120
this morning.
We did it.

851
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,800
We made it to the whole hour
without market.

852
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:35,800
We came up with these ideas last
night.

853
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,480
So thanks to you all for digging
up those.

854
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,240
Cut that that question
specifically over on Reddit.

855
00:46:40,240 --> 00:46:41,600
It was really good conversation
today.

856
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,240
So now we're going to share our
wins.

857
00:46:43,240 --> 00:46:45,920
If you're down in the listening
audience and you got to win to

858
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,200
share, please drop it over in
the chat or raise your hand and

859
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,280
come up and share.
But we will start rapid fire

860
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,560
with Bez.
So Bez, share a win with us from

861
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,840
your week.
We recently started a 1,000,000

862
00:46:55,840 --> 00:47:00,720
cups in my rural neck of the
woods on the March 26th and

863
00:47:00,720 --> 00:47:04,480
looking back, we've already
been, you know, on a paper that

864
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:08,920
prints once a week, been
featured 4 * 3 times on the

865
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:10,640
front page.
And I, you know what?

866
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,800
I think that's a win.
I'm going to take that.

867
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,520
You know, that's a little
reflection.

868
00:47:15,240 --> 00:47:17,440
So Bez, what is 1,000,000 cups
real quickly?

869
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,840
It's an entrepreneur meet up and
you know, it's funded by the

870
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,800
Kauffman Foundation.
Anyone can start a chapter.

871
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,560
They send you all the stuff.
It's free and you just, you

872
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:32,520
know, share a cup of coffee and,
you know, over time, you'll

873
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,840
deepen relationships, build
friends.

874
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,400
So yeah, it's an entrepreneur
meet up.

875
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,400
That is fantastic.
Go ahead.

876
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,120
But go ahead, John, and.
I know we're running out of

877
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:45,400
time, but on Chatter, Lauren
Lapointe is the daughter of the

878
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,080
founder of that and she does
1,000,000 mics over there as

879
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:49,600
well.
But it you might want to come

880
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,480
over and say hi to her.
That's a really, really great

881
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,520
initiative because one of the
biggest challenges that all

882
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,760
entrepreneurs faces, loneliness
and being able to bridge that

883
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,760
gap and meet people that are on
a similar journey as you, well,

884
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,320
that's really powerful.
Janae share with us a win for

885
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,200
the week.
Win for the week celebrated my

886
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:10,240
19 year anniversary with my wife
and everything else just falls

887
00:48:10,240 --> 00:48:12,960
to the side.
As it should, friend.

888
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,360
As it should.
That's the most important thing.

889
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,840
Congratulations to you.
That's a great accomplishment.

890
00:48:18,240 --> 00:48:19,360
All right, Matthew, what you
got?

891
00:48:19,720 --> 00:48:24,560
I think for it being 22 years
since I've probably had properly

892
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:28,240
had my own podcast, I think I'm
still celebrating that I started

893
00:48:28,240 --> 00:48:31,560
rethinking podcasting and
managing to continue with it

894
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:35,240
without failing.
Because when you do podcasting

895
00:48:35,240 --> 00:48:39,480
work for other people, it's very
easy to do prior de prioritize

896
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,320
your own.
So I'm really happy that I've

897
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,160
managed to keep up with it.
That's fantastic.

898
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,080
Keep going, Matthew.
That's awesome.

899
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:49,280
Keep putting your content out
there.

900
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,760
Dr. What's your win for the
week?

901
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:57,560
And this is going to be odd one.
It's not as odd as the toilet

902
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:01,800
one from a couple weeks ago, but
you know, hard to top that.

903
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:08,640
Anyway, I invested in an app
called speechify and it

904
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:14,000
basically gives a voice to non
audio books.

905
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:19,280
All, not all books are out on
audio and this basically gives

906
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:25,800
voice to that because I am very,
very busy and I don't have time,

907
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:30,720
you know, I have to multitask.
So I got through three different

908
00:49:30,720 --> 00:49:32,160
books today.
Not today, sorry.

909
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,200
I got through three different
books this week, all because of

910
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:39,040
Speechify and it was Gwyneth
Paltrow that was reading him to

911
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:40,920
me.
I wish they would come up with

912
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:46,000
some other female voices because
I'm not a huge fan of Gwyneth's,

913
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:50,400
but you know, we do what we do.
Me Dr. First off, it's great

914
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,000
that you're doing that and
consuming content that way.

915
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,320
That's awesome and thanks for
sharing that speech.

916
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:59,800
If I secondly, I know what you
really want is a sexy man voice,

917
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:05,640
like talking to you and I really
want full impression of a sexy

918
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,160
man voice.
I'm sorry, that was all.

919
00:50:07,240 --> 00:50:11,280
What I really want is a snarky
kind of southern kind of voice

920
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,200
is what I want.
But I might be able to do that

921
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:18,080
for you for sure.
Jonathan, share with us please.

922
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:23,680
I will keep it podcast related
and say 25th episode was

923
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,960
recorded yesterday for Story
Labs so I'm happy about that.

924
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,480
Yay, congratulations.
I enjoy listening to Jonathan.

925
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:31,680
You're doing a great job over
there.

926
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:36,520
Ashley, what you got for us?
So my win for this week is on

927
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,280
Tuesday.
My friend Corey has started a

928
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:44,840
musician's meet up and open mic,
and it's supposed to be more

929
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,040
than just everybody comes
together and plays the open mic.

930
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,680
It's supposed to be a networking
event and he encourages people

931
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,760
who don't necessarily know each
other to play together.

932
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,800
This is on my Instagram, but I
met a couple of musicians.

933
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:00,320
One's a violinist and the other
is a percussionist who plays the

934
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,080
Cajon.
And we played one of my homemade

935
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:04,840
songs that we've never played
together.

936
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,360
And I think it turned out really
well and we're going to play

937
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,000
together again.
And it was a lot of fun.

938
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,760
So that's my win.
Oh, that's pretty cool, Ashley.

939
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,600
I love the creativity that goes
along with being a musician and

940
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,800
being able to just stand up
there and just start playing

941
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,040
music together and all of a
sudden you get In Sync and

942
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:21,960
you're doing really great stuff.
That's really cool.

943
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:26,720
So I will wrap us up with on my
win for the week is which is

944
00:51:26,720 --> 00:51:30,840
kind of funny for me.
I had a viral video on TikTok,

945
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:38,440
11,142 views 277.
Like yeah I saw that.

946
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,400
I meant to tell.
You that I saw that.

947
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,280
Yeah, I had a book review about
the River is Wading, which is

948
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,400
one of my favorite Ollie Lamb.
And what's really funny, I was

949
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:52,400
telling Amanda about it that I
didn't want to do that video.

950
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,520
I just was in a funk, right?
And we all get in those content

951
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:59,080
Funks was in a funk and I just
really didn't want to create it.

952
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,520
But I just pulled myself out and
said, OK, create this video.

953
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,960
You you like this book and you
want to share about this book.

954
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:07,360
So I did and it went crazy
viral.

955
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:11,120
Still getting views.
It's been saved all 42 times.

956
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,760
It's been shared 14 times.
So it's a bit of a unusual

957
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,960
sensation to have a video that
you didn't really want to create

958
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:21,120
actually go viral.
So, but I think I've said this a

959
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:25,440
couple weeks ago, my lesson is
that TikTok likes when I do book

960
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,880
reviews, which is really
interesting because I'm a huge

961
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,400
reader.
So I might be doing some more

962
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,800
kind of ties in Jonathan, what I
said earlier about what what is

963
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,240
I want to talk about what
platforms will TikTok likes my

964
00:52:35,240 --> 00:52:38,440
book reviews go ahead best.
Consider inviting the author.

965
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:42,240
They love it when you talk about
their books and they may show up

966
00:52:42,240 --> 00:52:44,160
to wherever you tell them to.
Just saying.

967
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:45,920
Oh.
That's a great tip.

968
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,600
Yeah, that is a great time.
I did that a couple of years

969
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:49,960
ago.
Jonathan, you and Best might

970
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:54,160
remember when I had the author
of Love Yours was it What's a

971
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:57,240
book called Love Yours?
I forget now what the books

972
00:52:57,240 --> 00:52:59,960
called, but I had the author
come into a Zoom call and it was

973
00:52:59,960 --> 00:53:03,160
pretty cool, pretty fun.
So anyways, what a great week

974
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,640
we've had this week on the
podcasting morning chat.

975
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,680
We will be back next week,
Tuesday through Friday.

976
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,080
Mark is gone next week and the
crew is actually holding down

977
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:13,800
the Fort.
I will be gone for the first few

978
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,720
days of the week.
Speaker training, so I may be

979
00:53:16,720 --> 00:53:21,120
popping in out, But Dr. Ashley,
Jonathan, Nick and the crew will

980
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,480
be holding down the Fort.
So come back and join us next

981
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:27,520
week Tuesday through Friday at
7:00 AM Eastern Standard Time,

982
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:31,280
where we're sharing all things
related to podcasting to help

983
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,520
you along your podcasting and
content creation journey.

984
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,880
So thanks for being here today.
Everyone go out there and make

985
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,680
today great and we'll see you
right here again on Tuesday.

986
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:39,440
Have a great weekend.