Leadership Episodes
Lessons for owners and operators leading teams through pressure, change, and growth. Episodes cover decision-making, communication, accountability, mentorship, and building a healthy company culture.
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Nov. 3, 2026
Ep 225 - "Building Champions, with Clinton Tierney"
If you’ve ever wondered what makes a great consultant actually great, spend an hour with Clinton Tierney. Clinton has been in restoration for 21 years, worked literally every role in the industry from technician to VP of sales, and has been part of the Floodlight team for a year and a half now, bringing the same intensity to our clients that he brought to two companies he helped grow to 50 and 60 million dollars. In this episode we find out why. Clinton coaches his kids’ travel baseball and soft...
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Oct. 6, 2026
Ep 224 - "I Am the Voice, with Jared Thayer"
Chris's friend Jared Thayer joined us this week, and this conversation covers more ground than almost any episode we've recorded. Jared is the owner of Thayer Design Build, a remodeling company he started in 2014, and his story starts with a hard childhood, a mom who disappeared into addiction, and a grandmother who became one of the aces in his deck of cards. From there he built a construction company from scratch, grew it to a ten person team, went through a divorce last year, and is now raisi...
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Sept. 29, 2026
Ep 223 - "Always On, Never Satisfied"
I walked into this recording annoyed about studio cables, and somehow it turned into one of the most honest conversations Brandon and I have had on this show. We talk about the pressure in modern business culture to be always on and always awesome, and why the gurus only ever talk about their struggles in the past tense. Brandon brought in Arthur Brooks' framework of the three macronutrients of happiness: enjoyment, satisfaction, and meaning. We use it to take a hard look at grind culture, the ...
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Sept. 22, 2026
Ep 222 - "Show Up, Work Hard, Don't Be an Ass: JR Litehiser's Story"
Some guests walk in with a good story. JR Litehiser walked in with one of the most unbelievable stories we've ever heard on this show, and he made us laugh through the entire thing. JR is the owner of Pacific Northwest Epoxy Coatings and Supplies, PNW ECS, but before that he was a high school teacher, a police officer, and a decorative concrete contractor. In 2008, right as he was launching a materials distribution business, a chemical explosion left him with burns over 80 percent of his body. ...
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Sept. 8, 2026
Ep 220 - "Building Wolf, with Freddie Bosquez"
First live in-studio guest in the new space, and it had to be Freddie Bosquez. Freddie worked for me back in the ServPro days, starting around 2013, and watching who he's become since then is one of the privileges of my career. This conversation goes everywhere. A lower middle class kid who wouldn't ask his parents for sports money, so he sold his PlayStation for a pawnshop bass and started a punk band. A recession layoff and a Craigslist ad that led him to walk into a restoration shop looking ...
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Sept. 1, 2026
Ep 219 - "The Gateway Drug of Discipline"
Dude. No guest this week, and I came in hot on a topic that's been rearranging my brain all summer: discipline. Here's the setup. This is my fourth year chasing elk with my bow, and for the first time my son is in the hobby with me. Between him and my buddy Olin, my prep this season looks completely different. Lift, run, shoot, every week, Cam Hanes style, with the three of us trading range photos and treadmill pics to keep each other honest. And somewhere in all those arrows downrange I realiz...
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Aug. 25, 2026
Ep 218 - "It Gets Better, Not Easier"
Dude. No guest this week. Just a conversation Chris and I probably should have recorded years ago. We spend our days coaching business owners: diagnosing problems, building frameworks, holding people accountable. This episode is about the one area of life where neither of us gets to be the coach. Marriage. Chris and Kara are 25 years in. Janna and I hit 30 in December. And between his Alaska trip and a come-to-Jesus conversation on my own back porch, we got more honest than we ever have about w...
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July 28, 2026
Ep 216 - "Alignment Is Leverage"
Dude. No guest this week. Just Chris and me going somewhere we've honestly been afraid to go on this show. Chris opens up about something deeply personal: his experience with a legal, facilitated psilocybin ceremony here in Oregon, and what it surfaced about rest, presence, and the gaps between who he says he is and how he actually shows up. This is not a party story. This is a guy with a deep faith background doing serious, intentional work on himself, and what came out of it applies to every ...
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July 21, 2026
Ep 215 - "Time As A Tool"
What if the biggest thing holding your business back isn't strategy, talent, or money... but the timeline you've accepted? In this episode, Brandon and I unpack one of the most impactful business books we've read recently, The Science of Scaling by Dr. Benjamin Hardy. We explore how using time as a tool forces better thinking, exposes bottlenecks, and helps leaders stop chasing incremental growth in favor of transformational change. We also discuss simplifying your business, identifying the few...
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July 14, 2026
Ep 214 - "Fast and Flat: Leadership Lessons from a Ranger"
Some guests just drop bombs for an hour straight, and Griffin Brand is one of them. Griffin is a former 75th Ranger Regiment special operator who, at 26, found himself as the lone military advisor to the U.S. ambassador in Kabul, wrangling 20 different three-letter agencies into one room. Now he's in private equity with High Ground, working deals across the restoration industry. If you caught last week's episode with Griffin and his co-author Dan Casey on their book Bring Your Own Pencil, this ...
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July 7, 2026
Ep 213 - "Bring Your Own Pencil"
Every once in a while you record an episode and you know, before you even hit stop, that it's a top-tenner. This is that one. Chris and I sat down with Dan Casey and Griffin Brand - a football coach turned historian and an Army Ranger, to talk about their book Bring Your Own Pencil, the leadership playbook of the legendary Bill Walsh. But this isn't a football episode. It's a masterclass for anyone leading a crew or building a business in the trades - roofing, HVAC, restoration, you name it. Ho...
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June 30, 2026
Ep 212 - "The Family Business Playbook: Growth, Exit, and Legacy"
Family businesses come with incredible opportunities, but they also come with unique challenges. In this episode, I sit down with Keri Jones, whose family built Utah Disaster Kleanup into one of the most respected restoration companies in the country. We talk about what it was like growing up in the business, learning from industry pioneers, and eventually helping lead the company through rapid growth and a private equity acquisition. Keri shares lessons on leadership, developing people, buildin...
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June 9, 2026
Ep 211 - "You Can't Coach What You Can't See"
Mentorship gets talked about a lot in business, but what does it actually look like in practice? In this episode, Brandon and I unpack the difference between teaching, coaching, and true mentorship, and why most leaders struggle to develop people effectively. We explore the two ingredients every great mentor needs: experience and visibility. It's not enough to know what good looks like, you have to understand what’s actually happening in someone’s day-to-day work before you can help them improve...
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May 26, 2026
Ep 210 - "The Gas Pedal, the Brakes, & the Transmission"
In this episode, I sit down with former NCAA champion and Olympian Les Gutches for one of the most fascinating conversations we’ve had on the show. What started as a conversation about wrestling quickly turned into a masterclass on resilience, discipline, business, leadership, and life. Les shares stories from his childhood in Southern Oregon, growing up fast while helping care for his sick mother, and how those early experiences shaped his mindset forever. We dig into the relentless work ethic ...
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May 19, 2026
Ep 209 - "The Intelligence We Miss"
In this episode of Head, Heart and Boots, Brandon and I sat down with J. Brad Britton for one of the most meaningful conversations we’ve had on the podcast. J. Brad spent decades leading inside the Cutco and Vector organizations, but this episode centers on something far deeper - his relationship with his son Sam and how that journey completely changed the way he thinks about leadership, communication, and human potential. What stuck with us most was hearing J. Brad talk about realizing Sam unde...
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May 12, 2026
Ep 208 - "Sales Is a Contact Sport"
In this episode of Head, Heart, and Boots, Brandon and I sit down with our teammate Clinton Tierney to talk sales, leadership, and the mindset it takes to win in today’s restoration market. Clinton’s story is incredible—college athlete turned mold technician turned multi-million dollar producer and sales leader—and you can hear how every season shaped the way he approaches business development today. We spent a lot of time unpacking what actually creates successful salespeople. Not gimmicks or s...
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May 5, 2026
Ep 207 - "Your Company Feels Like Nothing - That's the Problem"
In this episode of Head, Heart and Boots, Brandon and I sit down with Nick D’Urbano again- this time not to talk AI, but to dig into branding. And honestly, this one hit different. Nick’s built and scaled multiple 8- and 9-figure brands, and what stood out is how clearly he sees something most of us miss: brand isn’t your logo, your colors, or your website- it’s how people feel when they interact with your business. We spent most of the conversation unpacking that idea. What does it actually mea...
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April 14, 2026
Ep 204 - "You're the Bottleneck. Now What?"
In this episode of Head, Heart, and Boots, Brandon and I sit down with Sam Chapman, owner of Merit Restorations and partner in CaseCo and 1-Tom Plumber, to talk about building businesses, leading people, and the real work behind growth. Sam shares his journey from a blue collar upbringing to building multiple companies, and how he’s approached scaling through partnerships, culture, and intentional leadership. We also get into the hard lessons. From avoiding accountability to rebuilding a broken ...
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March 31, 2026
Ep 202 - "A Second Chance at Life and Leadership"
In this episode of Head, Heart, and Boots, Brandon and I sit down with Nick Rahn, founder of Warriors Next Adventure, for one of the most intense and powerful conversations we’ve had on the show. Nick shares his journey from a turbulent childhood and multiple combat deployments in the Air Force to hitting rock bottom after leaving the military, battling addiction, and nearly ending his life in the Boundary Waters of northern Minnesota. What follows is a story of transformation. Nick walks us th...
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March 24, 2026
Ep 201 - "The Hustler's Playbook for Business Growth"
In this episode of Head, Heart, and Boots, we sit down for a conversation to unpack a fresh perspective on leadership, pressure, and the internal narratives that shape how we show up in business and in life. This episode is less about tactics and more about awareness. It is about recognizing the stories we tell ourselves when things get hard and how those stories either limit us or push us forward. We talk through how easy it is to default into frustration, comparison, or self-doubt when result...
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March 16, 2026
Ep 200 - "Leadership in the Loneliest Era"
In this episode of Head, Heart, and Boots, Brandon and I dig into something that feels bigger than business but is showing up inside every business anyway: loneliness, disconnection, and the emotional fragility many people are carrying into work right now. We unpack how remote work, constant digital distraction, and the erosion of real face-to-face relationships are reshaping not only mental health, but also trust, confidence, and the way teams respond to pressure and change. We talk candidly a...
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March 2, 2026
Ep 198 - "From Chaos to Control: A Founder's Comeback"
In this episode of Head, Heart, and Boots, we sit down with Johnny Gabe for a raw and deeply personal conversation about redemption, reinvention, and what real leadership transformation looks like over time. Johnny shares his journey from growing up in a violent environment in Philadelphia, surviving being shot at fourteen, and carrying that trauma into adulthood, to building multiple successful home service companies grounded in culture, accountability, and service. We unpack the early years of...
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Feb. 11, 2026
Ep 197 - "Scaling Requires Systems: Lessons from Growing a Company"
In this episode of Head, Heart, and Boots, Brandon and I sit down with Andrew Dobson, owner of ServPro Team Dobson, one of the largest ServPro operators in the country with nineteen licenses across multiple markets. Andrew shares the full origin story of how he grew up in a family cleaning business, left a creative path that once pointed toward Pixar, and slowly built a restoration operation grounded in process, precision, and relentless attention to detail. We dig into Andrew’s partnership wit...
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Jan. 20, 2026
Ep 195 - "The Leadership Equation: Focus, Faith, Effort"
In this episode of Head, Heart, and Boots, Brandon and I dig into a simple but surprisingly powerful framework that has been shaping how we think about performance, leadership, and execution. We unpack the equation of focus, faith, and effort, and why missing any one of those variables quietly sabotages outcomes in business, leadership, and personal growth. We explore how leaders often overestimate readiness, underestimate cost, or lose confidence midstream, and how each of those breakdowns sho...