#313 Beyond the Masquerade - Tom Snow on Navigating Spiritual Deception and Finding True Peace

And that's just so asinine, so unbelievably crazy because it's everybody standing up going,
I'm right, you're wrong. No, I'm right, you're wrong. No, I'm right, you're wrong.
No, I'm right, you're wrong. Let's divide. Yet that's not what the Bible talks about.
It talks about a single body of Christ, a bride, a single bride that he's going to come back for
on that second coming, on that day he comes back. He's coming back for a single bride.
Would you think 47,000 splits is a single? Because I don't.
So we're all screwed up. And that same PR master has gotten right into the churches. And
the churches go, well, the devil can't come in my church.
Oh, yeah, he's there. And he's running rampant over the leaders and over the people. They
go, no, you're wrong.
You know, because he can't come into the presence of God. You can't come in. I've seen on
Hollywood, if he touches the Bible, he bursts into flame.
I mean, Hollywood has to be right, right? I mean, come on, the movies have to be right. No.
Oh, but I've watched in the movies where the priest holds his cross up and the demon-
possessed man or the devil backs up and goes, oh, and then he throws some holy water and
they just melt like the Wizard of Oz.
Nope, baloney, Hollywood, garbage. The scripture tells us we wrestle not against flesh and
blood, which is where we're fighting with each other all the time, but we wrestle against
principalities and powers in spiritual powers in high places. And you go, you know, these
spiritual powers have taken over churches, denominations, men and women in running
these companies, men and women, individual lives, and they're just under a mask.
They've been so fooled. And we have to live with the end result of all this fighting. Yeah,
none of that's good.
If we understood how to walk with the true living God, then there can be one body of Christ
that walks together. We won't all walk the same way. We all be doing all the same thing, but
we have a single relationship with the true living God, and that will emanate through our
lives.
And we won't fight with one another going, I'm right, you're wrong. I'm right, you're wrong.
I think you mentioned about Adam and Eve.
So, I mean, I heard one not so long ago that was funny as if there, if it was a Chinese, they'd
have eaten the snake and things would be a lot better. But I mean, even if you go by that,
you know, it is, you know, they had three kids, Cain and Abel, and like, that doesn't even
make sense. Like that's, you know, every single thing, like that story.
And even if you look at the Bible, it's like, okay, who wrote it? Because then they found the
Bible, they're saying, yeah, created it. But then they found one 5,000 years ago in Turkey,
and there's even more information. They're constantly loads of repetitions of the story of
like the virgin birth and everything.
I know they're kind of different because I looked deep into that. I think there was 37 of
them. And so everything is stories that are told, but usually to control people.
Hmm. When it's, sometimes it's definitely to control people, especially if you have leaders,
because they like control. Men love power and, you know, men love to be in power.
Men love control. I don't know that things were written. Sometimes I'm sure they were
written by some people to exert belief systems and control.
But, you know, I feel pretty confident that in the studies, and I've studied many, many
different versions. I studied the Greek and the Hebrew. I look at the original text.
I don't just look at, you know, a certain version of the Bible. I don't just take a preacher's
word for it. Nobody should.
Nobody should take a preacher teacher's word for it. You read my books. Don't take my
word for it.
You know go back and study, find the truth, dig deep, go into the original text. The thing is,
how do you know? Because even now we can see that they're removing the truth and
they're doctoring texts. How do you know that that wasn't done then? And people are just
believing what the texts were and that they were correct.
I hear you. And I understand the reason for the question and the doubt. I think the thing is,
is that the original texts are the best version of what we have.
Most of the time, those things, like you look at Paul, he was just writing letters. He wrote to
the Corinthians and he wrote to the Romans and he wrote to the Colossians. Those were
just letters that he wrote to them.
But he also walked with the true living God. And he had the breath of God working with him
to speak to those people. And that's what's recorded.
And those things are, were inspired by God. The same when Moses wrote the Torah, right?
The first five books of the Old Testament. Those were him walking with God and him writing
in the Hebrew language, all the things that he observed, learned and did.
You then have the prophets, you know, all through the Old Testament. And not every
prophet's a good prophet. Even the Old Testament talks about the bad prophets and the
New Testament warns about bad prophets.
So not all prophets are good. But, you know, if you look at Jeremiah and Ezekiel and Isaiah
and, you know, they were men who stood before God, gave their lives to God and God was
speaking to them. They wrote it down.
It's there for us to learn. But are there other people who distort things, who twist things,
who stand up as false prophets, especially today? And they're, they're going, you know,
come follow me. You know, I'm the only one who knows the true answers.
You know, if you follow me and you do what I say, and there's all kinds of cults that have
happened, right? Go from Jim Jones back in the 80s where everyone drank the Kool-Aid and
died to nowadays, there's just all these false prophets. It's a lot to sort through. But we have
to.
Even Ron Herbert does this with the Scientology. I mean, he said he was going to create a
religion and that there's people don't and I've heard nasty stuff with that as well like that.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, right. Yeah. He just said, I'm going to create when he was a fiction, he was a fiction
writer in the 50s.
And I'm like, he's going to create a religion and he did and look how many people have gone
off Tom Cruise, John Travolta, and so many. And I've gone into the crazy land and it's all off a
fiction writer who said, I'm going to create a religion. I mean, can't you go back to that start
as his very start and go, dumb, don't follow.
Can't you perceive that a fiction writer who tells you he's going to start a religion? He's more
honest at least than a lot of people who go up and say, Oh, I'm God's mouthpiece. Because
there's plenty of people say that. This guy told you the truth and people still follow wet
haywire and still do.
So this is another one that's in the book. Normally I find about sound healing and frequency
therapy claims frequency tones and vibrations heal physical and emotional ailments by
aligning energy fields using sound baths with crystal bowls, gongs and chimes using binaural
beats and frequency therapy using, I don't know how self audio frequencies claiming to be
sacred healing tones, vocal toning and humming for chakra alignment and music therapy
with healing frequencies. These are based on occult beliefs about vibrational energy, which
create altered states of consciousness that open practitioners to demonic influence,
invoking spiritual entities through sound.
And I know that half the listeners are probably going, you might kind of delve a bit deeper
on that one. Okay. Well, remember the PR team is out here selling 10,000 options, not the
ancient deities, but 10,000 options of angel of light.
Let's tap into the universal energy. So let's tap into Reiki. Let's tap into all these areas and
sounds, we're attracted by sounds and it has meaning to us, right? We like music.
We like, and so we have this thing where we think, oh, we can, and what's some of the stuff
people do? What's some of the, instead of having an active living, talking relationship with
God, we think we have to go into these altered states of meditation. And so we start
listening to these sounds and they use these binaural beats and all these things. And we go
in, people go into trances and they're basically opening themselves up to the spiritual realm,
but the wrong side.
If people had eyes to see, and I've seen this a lot in 56 years of all the angels around us and
all the demons that are around us, and they're all around. And if right now around you,
around me, around everybody listening. And if they actually knew that if your eyes were
open, it'd scare the crap out of you.
It would scare the crap I've seen way too much. And so they're there and they can only
operate God set rules for the universe. And the angels and the demons can only operate if
we give them permission.
That's the rule. So the angels can't come in and help us unless we're seeking God and
yielding to him. And by the way, there's a bunch of false angels.
We can get into that later. So a bunch of experiences out there that are another part of the
angel light darkness fooling everybody. But then you got chanting and all these sounds and
opening up to open yourself up and you're trying to reach spiritual.
And it's not that the intent wasn't good. Remember I said there's a spiritual void in each of
us and everyone wants to find that. But if they don't have a relationship with the true living
God, then they're going to go for 10,000 options that are going, hey, let's chant into here.
Let's have these sounds and these tones. Let's go into this meditative. Now it's the wrong
kind of meditative state.
It's a state where you go into a trance or you lose control. You become passive. You're not
active.
There's a difference between an active relationship when you're, if you want to call it
meditation, meaning you're spending time praying, talking to the true living God. That's an
active place. But the deception is a passive place.
And you find yourself trying to give into these universe and the spirits and the sounds and it
takes you into trance. Well, yeah. Remember I told you angels and demons waiting
permission.
When you open yourself up to that side, the demons now have every right to come in acting
as angels of light and plague your life, my life, anyone's life who will open. And it's a warning
to everyone listening. You have a choice who you yield to.
Do you yield to the God of the universe who created all single one? Or do you yield to
10,000 options ruled by the God of this world, the devil, Satan, Lucifer. There's no third,
there's no middle ground. People go, well, you know, someone told me I'm just a happy
agnostic.
You know, I'm going to be right in the middle. I'm just not going to, I'm not yielding to God.
I'm not yielding to the devil.
I'm just here in the middle. Nope, it's not there. There's no middle.
Jesus said, if you're not with me, you're against me. Meaning if you're not going to yield to
him and let his life flow by his spirit, let his angels work on your behalf, then you're by
choice yielding to the God of this world who raised us. So meditation, sounds, all this stuff is
just that kind of meditation where you're going into trances and you're listening to these
sounds and it's, you know, people think, oh, but I felt so much.
I had experiences. Oh, you're going to have experiences. I guarantee you.
And you're having spiritual experiences, which are beyond the human level, but it's not the
right ones. And you're being set up for the darkness and the dark fall because the God of
this world will pull the rug out from underneath you and your life will go to hell in a
handbasket. And you will not know how to dig out of a hole.
And that's the setup that this PR master has learned. So what I've seen is I've seen people
that are doing retreats, organizing stuff, and they're deeply troubled. So I've seen that side
of it.
I've also seen people that have a gift. They're helping people. If I look at my meditation, I
had healing frequencies.
They were removed. I'm attacked left, right, and center when I'm doing stuff. There's proof
that they can actually heal.
If you look at kind of deep, deep, deep into the Tartarian empire, it was all frequencies that
were doing. And just recently, I heard that, uh, they'd done a test with in a orchestra with
the music that was actually played was what I was doing to the brain and the body was
incredible. And then when it was just played on a sound system, but the people didn't know,
cause they were blindfolded.
It was totally different. And I know that they've modified music as well. So that the
frequency that's good for us has been changed to, to being detrimental.
And I, I, I spoke with somebody not so long ago that he was in a dark place and he went to a
retreat and he taught, I feel fantastic. And they just kept getting it back, obviously taking all
the money out. And he went into a darker place and then they just kind of walked away kind
of like, so there is two sides that I've seen on this.
I've seen with the, the chains and the, the, that I believe the sounding system definitely
helps, but there's other ones that have been created intentionally that are actually not
beneficial for us. And even if we look at say drinking alcohol, I have seen people that you,
there could be the nicest people in the world and an evil spirit goes into them. They
become, and they can't even remember it the next day.
Like it's like you can see pure evil in a person, but regarding the frequencies, I think there's
good frequencies and there's bad frequencies. Well, I respect you. I think that, you know,
there are certainly things that can help the physical body and, um, you know, so, but I do
also agree with you about all the people that have misused these things and they have gone
into darkness.
And it's one thing that you brought up here earlier. And now again, is people keep paying,
you know, to get into these spiritual things. It's like to walk with the true and living God has
cost me maybe my pride in my all kinds of ego and all kinds of things, but it hasn't cost me
dollars and cents, you know what I'm saying? But all these other things are like, uh, I make a
joke in the book about a PayPal transaction.
They all come, you know, you get a, get a little, uh, laminated sheet that says you now have
this new achievement and you know, you pay with your PayPal transaction. It's like these
people are bilking billions of dollars out of innocent people and they're there, you know,
and they're looking for the hurt and the wounded, right? People who know that, you know,
you're suffering and they need to find the answer to the true spiritual need. So they are in
touch with their own need and they're the most gullible then to fall under this influence and
that influence and this dark influence of that dark influence.
And as you say, you know, this person went through this and then all of a sudden the rug
kind of got pulled out and then went into a deep depression. It was dark and then they
found their way out and found something else. And then the rugs pulled out and it's even a
worse depression.
And that's the whole thing I'm trying to tell people is this whole darkness is the game to the
ruler of this world. And he really does want to hurt people. And those demons you see
coming out and those demons you see in people and all this stuff, it's real.
And if people can't even see it, you can sense, people can sense it. You know what I'm
saying? There's a time where you're finally your eyes open and the scales fall off and you go,
what in the hell is this? You know, why did I get into this stuff? And I'm hoping that there are
people who will listen, who will, you know, just consider that some of the things you're
getting into could be dangerous, that there could be being fooled, that they might be being
fooled by a masquerade, you know, evil's great masquerade. And so, you know, that's why I
say that's go ahead.
And was it LSD that your brother did when you were younger? So I like this people, they're
doing that and they're doing ayahuasca and there's a lot of different things and you know,
you can experience different things. I've talked about on the show, I tried it once, I did like a
DMT, there was 20 people on it. And I mean, for me, I saw everything was connected.
I'd done it once and I thought, this is beautiful. Everything, the trees, the whole, we're all
connected as one, but there's people I know then they're doing these ayahuascas. And I've
heard of some people doing like 20 times and they're doing this.
I know somebody else, they were like doing the toad and they were organizing all this
different thing. And it was as if all we get the politicians to do this, we'd change the world
and everything. But the person themselves was doing it as a financial benefit, charging these
people to do it, making it look like, Hey, we can make the world a better place.
So I've seen both sides of everything. And you know, it's a, I hear you. Yeah.
Deceived thinking. I mean, we might've covered this, but these were the ones that I
covered. Is it possible the good, sincere Christian believers can be deceived into thinking
they're hearing from God yet not.
Okay. We didn't make a cover, but it's a good one. It's a good point.
Yeah. Oh, definitely they can. Um, and I think my second book really goes into it, which has
set the captives free.
This third one is set the captives free too. And I teach how to hear and distinguish the voice
of God versus all the other voices out there. And when we learn how to hear the true and
living God and walk with him, and it can be a daily walk, it should be a real walk, not a
pretend, not religious, not get on your knees and pray, you know, and think you have to do
this.
And it's not legalism. It's not, but there are good intentioned Christians who have walked
into false belief systems and they think they're hearing from God. And once again, if you
can't distinguish the voices, don't you think the devil's going to whisper in their ear and go,
Hey, I'm God.
And I'm going to, you know, and I'm giving you some knowledge that nobody else has, you
know, something nobody else has heard. And I'm, you can, you can stand up now and tell
people this and, and you're delivering a message for me. And they're good intentioned
people.
And they think they're wanting to hear the big G letter G God, but they're hearing a level,
you know, the God of this world and his demons and they're influencing. And maybe a good
Christian started from a good place, a good heart, but they eventually are listening to
demons. They're listening to a wrong leading, and then they get the wrong influence and
they exert that influence.
And that influences others and they become leaders. And that's how you get all these, you
know, a lot of false belief systems, false cults, false things. And so a good Christian, there's
not like a guarantee just because you ask the Lord into your life that nothing bad can
happen.
It is, it just doesn't work that way. You have to walk. It's a walk with the true living God.
And will we make mistakes? Of course we will. Have I always heard right? No, the Bible tells
us we hear in part, we know in part, we see in part. So we only see part of the truth of the
spiritual realm, but I'd rather walk in the part than not.
I've witnessed different things with like some people kind of telling people I go to church
and do everything. And they're the ones having the affairs. I've seen people that were
getting into the church to connect with people.
Cause it's like our club against the other club and that's a manipulation. But I've also seen
people that they believe that's right. And they're beautiful people.
I mean, obviously you don't know anybody deeply, but from what I can see people being
great fathers, great providers, just really decent, good people. So you can, you can get both.
And I think with every single religion that you, that you see it.
Yeah. So this is one that I think I'd like to finish with, but I think it's very good. And I was,
when I saw it, I thought it was beautiful because just what I have kind of witnessed in my
lifetime.
And it's a lot more people than most people know it's don't let them win right now. Out
loud, say this because of the blood of Jesus Christ that I receive right now. I reject every
suicidal thought.
I command every spirit of death and suicide to be quiet now and stay quiet. I choose life. I
choose to fight.
I choose to get free. Holy spirit of God, please help me to do all of these things. Now call
someone, a pastor, a Christian friend, a crisis line.
Don't stay alone with this. Your story isn't over. Your end hasn't been written yet.
Stay alive to find out what's ahead. Choose to live to tell it. They're powerful words.
And I have witnessed so many people because a lot of times it's kind of hidden because of
the shame attached to it. There's millions and it's, and I, there's times, I don't know, I just
got an inner feeling that I should call somebody go up. I have saved people.
I don't know what it is, an inner calling that they would have been dead only for me. And I
know that happens with a lot of people as well. So maybe we'll finish on it, but I just want to
say they're beautiful words.
And I think if people read them, it could save them. Right. I agree.
Thank you for the kind words for that. And, but I agree that, you know, that's, there is a way
out when people finally have that last rug pulled out from underneath them. You know,
they felt high rug was pulled out.
They hit the bottom, they get, they find a new way out, get to a higher high rugs pulled out
again, they get to a deeper low. Then they finally dig out, you know, and that's how you're
going to hire high. And then the rugs pulled out and it goes to a deeper low.
And that's the ebb and the flow that the devil's trying to destroy to good people. And don't,
and, and as you read from the book, we don't have to give in. There is the way out.
The book will tell you how to get out, how to get through it, how to come through that. And
we need, we need to see a way out. We need to know there's a way out.
And it's not keep repeating the cycle, go into a higher, higher, and a deeper low and a
higher, higher, and a deeper low. Because that cycle, when you hit that lowest low, as you
said, if you hadn't gone to go talk to some of these people, maybe they'd be dead. And I
hate to say it, but the devil laughs every time somebody hits that low and kills themselves.
That's, if anything, he is the sadist of the most sadists. And he's a torturer of torturers. And
he puts on as an angel of light, but he came to destroy.
And I thank you that you went to those people and talk to them. And I hope the book can
also do that same for somebody out there. I thought it was really powerful.
And I suppose let's finish with nature's golden fire. You're, you know, because as you say,
you're not doing it for money, but I like appreciate, you know, you're going, going on all the
shows you've written. So, you know, very good books, very interesting books, and you're
open to discussion.
We have different belief systems at the time and that's okay as well. Whereas some people,
they attack you and they say, you know, that's okay. We all have our own, we've our own
journeys and everything.
But what's this nature's golden fire. I've looked on the website, I saw the products, but for
the listeners, you want to explain what exactly you're doing there? Well, nature's golden
fire. We have a new domain to get there.
NGF.food, easier to remember. NGF.food. But it takes you out there. And, you know, I went
through congestive heart failure three years ago, and they took me off salt.
And we're went bland. I love salt, salt doesn't love me. Well, there's, I'm not the only person
with heart problems, kidney problems, hypertension, and then also diabetes and pre-
diabetic.
And there's, in America, 280 million Americans that fit into the need to have salt taken out
of their diet, where we go down to less 2,000 milligrams a day. And it might sound like a lot,
but a teaspoon of salt, 2,300 milligrams. So to live, you read labels on anything.
There's natural sodium in regular food, meats, vegetables, fruits. And then, but you get
anything prepared, you break out beyond way too much sodium every day. Well, it's killing
people, heart problems, kidney problems, hypertension.
We know sugar causes, too much sugar causes diabetes and pre-diabetes. Well, in the US
there's 280 million Americans that have this salt issue. There's another 155 million, probably
crossover, that have the sugar diabetic side.
Well, in the world, that's 1.5 billion that have the too much salt intake and 1.2 billion that
have too much sugar intake. There are a lot of people around the world that need good
tasting food that is 100% salt-free, 100% sugar-free. And so I've been a kind of a creator.
I've been a cook since I was five years old. My mother taught me to cook from scratch. And
so I've been creating, you know, food creations all my life.
But three years ago, the switch went to, how do I make food taste good that's 100% salt-
free, 100% sugar-free? And I now have 22 products that I have out on the website. We're
not officially released. We only have taste testers, people who, you know, local tasting, but
we haven't released it to everybody yet, but you can go read it.
But we have hot sauces and mustards and ketchup and mayo and salad dressings and
horseradish sauce. And we're going to have a whole line of soups and, you know, regular
spices that you have. And it adds the flavor back in, like amazing flavor.
And it's a 100% salt-free, 100% sugar-free. Nobody has that. There are some people who
have salt-free.
There are some people who have sugar-free, but even if you read that, the U.S. label on that
stuff, you still can get fooled. So that's my tent making now. I've retired from the computer
design side, and now I'm, I guess, a compassionate because I always love food.
Obviously, I love food. I'm still a big boy. And even though I've lost some 25 pounds or so,
but you know, that's still, I'm not small.
But learning to have healthy foods that you can put, you know, condiments and sauces and
things into your regular food and eat healthy, right? You're going to go out and eat once in a
while. That's fine. But I'm talking about your daily stuff, what you have to do.
Otherwise, we won't be healthy. And so a little bit of a passion of mine is to help people.
That's my tent making nowadays is launching 22 products.
So read out on the site, ngf.food. I mean, I know that the salt, they've doctored that. So the
salt that most people think they take is the white salt, and that's why it's detrimental to
your health. But like, if you take Celtic salt, pinch under your tongue, that feeds your cells
and your energy, and you feel fantastic from it.
And even sometimes people, they think the ketchup and all that, it's less than most, as you
say, most of the ingredients, they're able to put ingredients in without labeling it with the
trickery. And people think the FDA is helping them. That's part of the demonic group, World
Health Organization, all of these organizations, they're all part of the demonic group.
And people need to wake up to that. So it's fantastic that you've created. Did you know that
there's more sugar in ketchup than an ice cream? I use an app that tells me the different
ingredients.
It's by scanning the QR code, and it's like, you just pick up stuff. And there's so much
trickery. Sometimes it's saying natural this, natural that.
And it can have 1% natural, and they get away with using the word natural, where someone,
without even checking the ingredients, they go, oh, it's natural. I look after myself. And even
with the bio, everything is trickery, because- It can be.
And there are people who lie, a lot of them, because they're out for greed and money. My
products are all 100% natural, and they're premium products. They won't be the cheapest
on the shelf when it gets there, because the cost of the items to make the products costs.
I'll make it as low cost as I can, but I can't beat the cost. If I'm using quality products in there,
I'm not going to make it cheap to make a dollar, an extra dollar. So our health is important
to us.
And anybody wants to, by the way, sign up there under the comments section, sign up to be
alerted when the products get released. So we're currently trying to get the business built
up to get it there. So yeah, there's so much trickery, though.
So many people out for the almighty dollar, and they just soak us innocent sheep for billions
of dollars, probably trillions of dollars, just to line their pockets. And I'm sorry, but life is
more important, loving people, taking care of people, wanting good for people, helping
people, healthy, more important than the dollar. Everybody needs a dollar to live.
It's not a question of, you know, don't have a dollar. It's a question of don't milk somebody
out of their hard-earned money because you can't. Absolutely.
Absolutely. Listen, Tom, thoroughly enjoyed the conversation. You mentioned that the
health food that you're doing, so you can maybe say it again, but where else can they find
you? Okay, well, my website for all the books is just to be clear.com. And it's the number
two.
So just number two, be clear.com. And the three books that are published are there. You
can read about them. You can jump from there to Amazon if you like.
Then there's 10 more books in the queue. Never thought I was going to be an author, but 10
more in the queue. You can see that.
Look, I guess I'm not here to make money. Anybody wants the ebook once a month, usually
on one Sunday a month, I will mark all the ebooks on all three down to 99 cents. They're
normally like 4.99. So instead of making $2 on the book, I'll make 35 cents.
Like I said, I'm not here to make money on books. If I help somebody, so if it's dollars and
cents, wait for the weekend, find the Sunday that they're 99 cents. It happens usually once a
month.
Um, and you know, I'll give you for the show notes, uh, my sub stack, social media, um, the
website, and then also NGF.food if people are interested, you know, but, uh, glad to send
you any of that. Yeah. Perfect.
Yeah. Yeah. And make sure both the audio and the video.
Thank you very much, Tom. Thank you for having me. No problem.
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