Pluto's Big Night & a Sharper Look at M87's Black Hole | Today's Space News
Astronomy Daily · S05E151 · “The Faint Little World Has Its Day” · Monday 27 July 2026 · Hosts Anna & Avery. Pluto has its brightest night of the year — so we go deep on the world nobody can agree how to label. Then a crew comes home after 241 days, the galaxy’s most common planet turns out to maybe hide oceans of molten rock, and the first black hole ever photographed gets a sharper, two-colour read. In this episode LEAD — PLUTO AT OPPOSITION • Tonight Pluto sits opposite the Sun in Capricornus, near its closest point to Earth (~34.5 AU) and at its brightest for the year — yet still only magnitude ~15. • The full arc: Percival Lowell’s “Planet X,” Clyde Tombaugh’s 1930 discovery by blink comparator, and the name suggested by 11-year-old Venetia Burney. • The 2006 IAU reclassification to “dwarf planet” (the “clearing the neighbourhood” rule) — and the still-live debate between dynamical and geophysical definitions of a planet. • What New Horizons found in 2015: the nitrogen-ice plain of Sputnik Planitia, the famous “heart,” water-ice mountains, a hazy atmosphere, and a possible subsurface ocean. STORY 2 — HOME AFTER 241 DAYS • Soyuz MS-28 lands in Kazakhstan with NASA’s Chris Williams and cosmonauts Kud-Sverchkov and Mikaev; ~3,856 orbits, 102M+ miles; Expedition 74→75 handover to Jessica Meir. STORY 3 — SUB-NEPTUNES • New ASU modelling: deep clouds of vaporised rock and salt can act as a thermal blanket, potentially sustaining a hidden magma ocean and reshaping how we read JWST spectra. STORY 4 — M87 IN TWO COLOURS • A Shanghai Astronomical Observatory-led team builds the first spatially-resolved dual-frequency spectral map of M87* (1.3 mm + 3.5 mm, EHT + GMVA), linking the famous ring to the real physics of plasma at the event horizon. SKYWATCH — BOTH HEMISPHERES • South: Southern Delta Aquariids peaking (ZHR ~25) + Comet 10P/Tempel improving into August. North: Mu Cephei, Herschel’s Garnet Star, high in Cepheus. Both: Pluto at opposition, Saturn after midnight in Pisces. Caveat: a ~95% Moon washes out faint targets this week. Sources • NASA — “Astronaut Chris Williams, Crewmates Return from Space Station.” • ASU News / The Astrophysical Journal Letters — Mukherjee et al., clouds and the interiors of sub-Neptunes. • The Astrophysical Journal Letters — Zhao et al., “Spatially Resolved Spectral Properties of M87* on Event Horizon Scales” (DOI 10.3847/2041-8213/ae84ca). • Explore Scientific / Star Walk / astronomy.com — July 2026 observing notes (Pluto opposition, Southern Delta Aquariids, Comet 10P/Tempel, Mu Cephei).
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Anna: Welcome to Astronomy Daily. I'm Anna.
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Avery: And I'm avery. It's Monday, the 27th
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of July, 2026, and tonight,
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the smallest headliner we've had in a while
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gets top billing.
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Anna: That's right. Our lead is a world you
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cannot see without a decent telescope,
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one that half of the astronomy community will
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tell you isn't even a planet. And today is
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its brightest night of the year. Pluto
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reaches opposition. We're going to spend some
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proper time there. The discovery, the
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demotion that people are still arguing about,
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and the frozen world New Horizons actually
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found waiting for us.
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Avery: Then, um, three quick stops. A crew comes
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home after 241 days in orbit.
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New modeling suggests the most common planet
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in the galaxy may be hiding oceans of molten
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rock. And astronomers have taken the famous
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first ever black hole image and pulled a
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whole new layer of physics out of it.
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Anna: And we'll close where we always do, under the
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sky north and south, with a M meteor
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shower that's putting on its best show for
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our Southern Hemisphere listeners. Let's get
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into it.
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So, Avery set the scene for me. If someone
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walks out tonight and looks up, are they
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going to see Pluto?
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Avery: Honestly, no. Not with their eyes and not
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with a pair of binoculars. Tonight, Pluto
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sits directly opposite the sun in our sky,
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over in the constellation Capricornus. That's
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what opposition means. Earth is passing
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between Pluto and the Sun. So Pluto rises
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at sunset, sits highest around midnight,
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and it's fully lit and as close to us as it
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gets all year. A, uh, touch under 35
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astronomical units. So roughly 35
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times the Earth's sun
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Anna: distance, and that's as good as it gets.
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Avery: And it's still faint, painfully
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faint. We're talking about magnitude 15,
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to put that in human terms. It's millions of
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times dimmer than the faintest star you can
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pick out on a dark night. You realistically
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need an 8 inch telescope and a good star
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chart. And even then, Pluto looks like
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a star, a dot that only gives itself away
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because it shifts position over a
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Anna: couple of nights, which is exactly how it was
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found in the first place. Let's rewind.
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Because the Pluto story is one of the great
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underdog tales in astronomy.
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1894, Percival Lowell, the same
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wealthy Bostonian who convinced himself
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Mars was covered in canals, sets up an
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observatory in Flagstaff, Arizona, and
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becomes obsessed, um, with a planet X he
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was sure was tugging on the orbits of Uranus
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and Neptune.
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Avery: And, um, he never found it. He died in 1916,
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still hunting.
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Anna: He did the search, went cold, then
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restarting. And in 1929 the
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job landed on a 23 year old Kansas farm
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boy with no colonies college degree named
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Clyde Tombaugh. His method was brutal,
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painstaking work. Photograph the same patch
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of sky on different nights. Then flick
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between the two plates in a machine called a
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blink comparator, looking for the one dot
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out of hundreds of thousands that moved.
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Avery: That is the definition of patience.
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Anna: On the 18th of February 1930 he
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found it. And here's a detail I love. The
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name didn't come from an astronomer. It came
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from an 11 year old English schoolgirl,
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Venetia Burney. Over breakfast she
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suggested Pluto, the Roman God of the
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underworld, fitting for a cold, dark,
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distant world. And the first two letters, P
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and L also happen to honor Percival
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Lowell. It stuck.
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Avery: So for 76 years, Pluto is the ninth
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planet. It's on every classroom wall, um,
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every lunchbox, every mobile over a
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cottage. Then 2006 happens.
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Anna: Then 2006 happens. And this is
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the part people still get heated about. So
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let me try to be fair to both sides because
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there genuinely are two good sides.
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The trouble started in the years before when
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astronomers began finding other icy
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bodies out past Neptune in a region called
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the Kuiper belt. And in 2005
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a team found Eris, which at the time
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looked to be bigger than Pluto.
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Avery: And that's the crunch. If Pluto's a planet,
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is eris planet number 10? What about the
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next 20 objects we
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Anna: find out there exactly the corner they were
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backed into. So in August
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2006, the International Astronomical
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Union voted on a formal definition of planet
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for the first time. Three rules. It has to
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orbit the Sun. It has to be roundish under
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its own gravity and the killer it, it
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has to, uh, have cleared its neighborhood of
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other debris. Pluto passes the first two
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easily, but it shares its zone with all that
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Kuiper Belt material. So it fails the third
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reclassified as a dwarf planet. It
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even got a minor planet catalog
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Avery: number 134340,
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a demotion with a filing number.
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Ouch. Not everyone accepted it,
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not at all.
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Anna: And this is the bit I want listeners to sit
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with because it's not settled science. It's a
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definition. And definitions are choices.
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The loudest objection comes from planetary
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scientists and Alan Stern, who leads the New
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Horizons mission, is the most prominent.
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Their argument is roughly clearing the
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neighborhood is a strange test because it
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depends on where an object is, not what it
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is. Put Earth out at Pluto's distance and
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Earth wouldn't clear that huge orbit either.
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They prefer a geophysical definition if
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it's big enough for gravity to pull it round.
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And it's not a star, it's a planet, full
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stop. By that logic, Pluto is a planet, and
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so are, uh, a dozen other round worlds.
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Avery: And the counterargument, the dynamical
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camp.
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Anna: The folks who wrote the IAU rule say a
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definition has to be useful. And anything
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round gives you potentially hundreds of
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planets, which tells you nothing about how
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the solar system is actually organized.
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Clearing your orbit captures something real.
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The eight major planets are gravitationally
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dominant and the Kuiper bell objects simply
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aren't. So it's genuinely a values question.
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Do you classify by the object itself or by
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the role it plays in the system? Reasonable
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people land differently.
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Avery: And then, as if the universe wanted to make
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everyone regret the timing, New
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Anna: horizon shows up the best twist in the
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whole saga. The probe launched in January
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2006, seven months before the vote.
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So it left Earth as a mission to the ninth
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planet and arrived in July 2015
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at a dwarf planet. And what it sent back
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demolished the idea that small and far means
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dull and dead.
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Avery: This is my favorite part. Because we expected
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a cratered frozen billiard
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Anna: ball, we got a stunningly complex
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active world. There's a vast bright plain of
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frozen nitrogen sputnik plantina that
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sits inside a uh, giant heart shaped feature
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the whole Internet fell for. And that heart
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isn't static. The nitrogen ice is slowly
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churning, convecting like a lava lamp in
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ultra slow motion. Which is why it has almost
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no crater. The surface is being
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resurfaced. There's mountains of water ice
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as tall as the rockies. Because at Pluto's
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temperatures, water ice is hard as rock. A
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thin blue tinged nitrogen atmosphere with
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layers of haze and a real possibility of a
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liquid water ocean sloshing beneath the
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crust.
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Avery: A subsurface ocean on um, a world people were
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arguing wasn't important enough to be a
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Anna: Which is the poetry of it, isn't it? The
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label we hang on Pluto changed nothing about
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Pluto. It's exactly as fascinating as the day
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before the vote. And it's not alone out
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there. It has five moons of its own. The big
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one, Charon, so large that the two of them
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orbit a point in empty space between them
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Like a slow cosmic waltz.
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Avery: So tonight, when it's at its brightest and
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best place for the year, that faint 15th
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magnitude.in Capricornus is a churning, hazy,
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possibly ocean bearing world with a heart on
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Anna: That's the one and whatever you want to call
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Tonight is Pluto's night. We'll tell you
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exactly where to point a scope in the sky.
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Watch. Clyde Tombaugh, by the way, passed
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away in 1997. And new horizons
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carried a small portion of his ashes on that
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flyby. He got to visit the world he found.
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Avery: Okay, I'm not crying. You're crying.
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Lets bring it back to Earth literally.
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Speaking of coming home, three people did
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exactly that yesterday on, um, Sunday, a
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Soyuz MS.28 capsule parachuted down
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onto the steppe of Kazakhstan, bringing NASA
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astronaut Chris Williams and Roscosmos
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cosmonauts Sergey Kut Sverchkov and Sergey
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Mikhayev back after 241 days
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aboard the International Space Station.
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Anna: 241 days put a number on what
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Avery: Nearly eight months, around
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3,885 laps of the
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Earth and more than 102 million miles
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traveled, all while effectively standing
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still in orbit. They launched back on the
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27th of November, American Thanksgiving. So
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they've missed an entire summer and winter
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depending on your hemisphere.
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Anna: And it was a first flight for two of them.
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Avery: It was first mission for Williams and for
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Mikhayv. Gutsverchkov's the veteran. He's
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now passed 425 days in space
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across two flights. And I want to flag the
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quiet significance here. A, uh, NASA
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astronaut and two Russian cosmonauts riding
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home together in a Russian capsule. Whatever
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the politics on the ground, the crude side of
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this partnership just keeps functioning, seat
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Anna: What was Williams actually doing up there?
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missions, not just endurance feats.
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Avery: Right. And his work is genuinely down to
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Earth in its aims. He supported research into
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novel cancer therapies which benefit from the
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way proteins and cells behave in microgravity
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materials, the kind used in advanced
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electronics and computing that you can make
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more plainly without gravity pulling
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everything around. The pair of cosmonauts
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solar radiation instrument on the station's
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exterior.
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Anna: And the handover keeps the station rolling
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seamlessly.
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Avery: Command passed to NASA's Jessica Meyer as
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a fresh crew. Anil, uh Menin and two
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cosmonauts arrived earlier this month to keep
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the lab staffed. The hard part now,
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ironically, is gravity. After eight months,
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just holding your own head up is exhausting.
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Anna: Welcome home to the three of them now from
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people orbiting one planet to the most common
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kind of planet in the entire galaxy.
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Avery: Moving on to story three, sub Neptune's
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clouds of Rock, oceans of magma. What's this
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all about?
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Anna: Here's a fact that still catches me out. The
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most common type of planet in the Milky Way
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is a type we don't have. It's the sub
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Neptune. Bigger than Earth, smaller than
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Neptune. There's nothing like it in our solar
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system, yet they turn up everywhere else. Out
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of more than 6,000 confirmed exoplanets, well
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over 2,000 are, uh, sub Neptunes.
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Avery: And we barely understand what they're made
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Anna: That's the frustration. They could be small,
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rocky cores wrapped in thick hydrogen
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atmospheres, or they could be water worlds,
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volatile, rich, drowning in water and carbon
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molecules. And we can't easily tell because
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even the James Webb telescope can only read
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the very top of the atmosphere. And these
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atmospheres are deep and hazy. New
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modeling from a team at Arizona State,
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recently published, offers a clever way
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through. And it puts clouds at the center of
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the story.
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Avery: Clouds on a planet where weather must
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mean something wild.
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Anna: Wild is the word deep down, where the
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pressure is crushing. The team modeled clouds
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made of vaporized rock and salt. Think
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aluminum oxide, iron silicates,
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potassium chloride. Actual mineral
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clouds. And here's the key finding those
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clouds act like a blanket. They trap heat
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trying to escape from the interior, which
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pushes the boundary between the atmosphere
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and the solid body to temperatures high
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enough to melt rock.
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Avery: So beneath the clouds, you might have an
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ocean of magma, a global magma
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Anna: ocean in the cloudy scenario. In the cloud
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free version, that boundary is cooler and
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might stay solid. Same planet from the
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outside, two completely different interiors,
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depending on the clouds. And that matters for
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us for a very practical reason. It changes
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how we interpret what Webb sees, and it feeds
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directly into which of these worlds we bother
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calling potentially habitable.
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Avery: To be fair, this is modeling, not a direct
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observation, completely fair.
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Anna: This is simulation work, pointing observers
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at what to look for. Not a photograph of
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magma, but it reframes clouds from being just
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an annoying smudge that ruins our data into
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an active ingredient, shaping the whole
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planet. For the galaxy's most common world,
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Avery: a meaningful shift from world we're modeling
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to a monster we've actually photographed.
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Let's go to M M87.
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Anna: Next up, story four, a sharper look at M
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M87's black hole.
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Avery: Cast your mind back to 2019, that
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first ever image of a black hole, the orange
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donut. That was M M87,
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the supermassive black hole at the heart of
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a giant galaxy in Virgo, about
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55 million light years away. Weighing
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in at around six and a half billion
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suns. That Single image was one of the
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defining science pictures of the decade.
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Anna: And now a team has gone back to the data and
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done something new with it.
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Avery: They have. Researchers led by the Shanghai
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Astronomical Observatory with international
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collaborators have produced the first
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spatially resolved dual frequency spectral
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map of M M87. And I know that's a mouthful,
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so let me unpack it because it's clever.
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Anna: Please. Dual frequency spectral map needs a
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translation.
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Avery: Think of it like this. The 2019 picture was
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a single color photo of the ring. What this
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team did was image the black hole at two
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different radio wavelengths, 1.3
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millimeters and 3.5 millimeters, using the
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Event Horizon Telescope and a partner network
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called the GMVA from observations back in
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2018. Then they compared them point
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by point to see how the color of the glow
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changes as you move outward from the center.
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That comparison is the spectral index, and
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mapping it across the ring had never been
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done before.
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Anna: And what did the map show?
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Avery: A, uh, clear structure. The signal is one
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character inside the bright ring, and it
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steepens, changes flavor as you move outward,
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with the transition landing right at the ring
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itself, about 30 micro arcseconds out.
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we photographed in 2019 isn't just a trick of
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where the light happens to glow. It's tied to
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a real physical change in the plasma right
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around the event horizon.
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Anna: So why does that matter beyond. Nice. A, uh,
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sharper map.
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Avery: Because reading a black hole means untangling
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two things that are mixed together. The pure
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warping of space by gravity and the messy
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physics of superheated plasma spiraling in.
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The researchers say looking at multiple
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wavelengths lets them start to separate those
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two. That's the path to understanding how
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these monsters feed, how they fire off those
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enormous jets, and eventually to a cleaner
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test of Einstein's general relativity. It's
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the difference between having a portrait and
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starting to read the biography.
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Anna: A portrait to a biography. I'll take that.
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And on that note, let's step outside,
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because it's skywatch time. And as always,
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wherever you are on the planet, we've got
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you. Avery, you take the south, I'll take the
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north, and we'll meet in the middle at Pluto.
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Avery: Deal. Southern hemisphere first. And friends
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down south. This is your week. The Southern
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Delta Aquarids are peaking. This is a shower
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that genuinely favors the south. The radiant
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in Aquarius climbs high after midnight for
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you. And under a dark sky, you could see
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something like 20 to 25 meteors an hour.
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No equipment, just a reclining chair, a wide
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Anna: And there's a comet. For the early risers,
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Avery: 10P Tempel 1 low in the pre
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dawn sky. It's uh, a binocular or small
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telescope object rather than a naked eye
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showpiece. But here's a southern bonus. It's
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diving southward through August, so our
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Southern Hemisphere listeners get the better
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and improving view. Northern folks, catch it
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now before it
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Anna: drops away from you Northern Hemisphere. Your
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headline is a star with a wonderful name.
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Look high toward the north for the
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constellation Cepheus. It looks like a
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child's drawing of a house. And near the
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bottom of that house sits Mu Cepheii,
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better known as Herschel's Garnet Star. It's
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one of the reddest stars you can see with the
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naked eye. A, uh, bloated red supergiant so
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vast that if you dropped it where the sun is,
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its surface would swallow Jupiter.
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color. And you northern observers get the
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Delta Aquariids too, just lower down toward
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your southern horizon.
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Avery: And now the meeting point, the one we teased
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at the top, Pluto.
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Anna: Pluto's at opposition tonight over in
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Capricornus, which is beautifully placed for
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the Southern Hemisphere high overhead and
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perfectly workable low to mid northern skies
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too. Now the honest part. At
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magnitude 15, this is a genuine
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challenge. You'll want at least an 8 inch
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telescope, a detailed finder chart, and the
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trick is patience. Sketch or photograph
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the star field two or three nights running
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and watch for the one star that moves. That
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mover is Pluto. It is the ultimate
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bragging rights target.
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Avery: And, um, there's a catch tonight for
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everyone.
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Anna: There is a big bright moon, about
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95% full, washing out the sky
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all week. That won't bother the Garnet star
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or the brighter meteors much, but it makes
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faint Pluto even harder. If chasing
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Pluto is your goal, wait for it to clear the
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worst of the moonlight or give it a week. Oh,
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and Saturn is rising after midnight over in
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Pisces for both hemispheres, rings and all.
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A lovely consolation prize in any scope,
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north or south.
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Avery: There's something up there for you tonight.
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Anna: And that's Astronomy daily for Monday
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27th July. A faint little
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world having its big night, A crew safely
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home, magma oceans on the galaxy's
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commonest planet, and a, uh, sharper look at
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the first black hole we ever photographed.
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Avery: You can find show notes, links, and every
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past episode@astronomydaily.IO
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and the observant amongst you will notice
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that we have a brand new website today, so
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make sure you check it out. And we're
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AstroDaily Pod Across Social. If
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tonight's Pluto story settled or restarted,
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an argument in your house, we'd love to hear
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it.
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Anna: For Avery, I'm Anna. Whatever you decide to
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call Pluto, clear skies.
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The stories.
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Avery: We told.