Sept. 4, 2026
One Flash in the Xenon: The Dark Matter Event Nobody Can Explain
Links & sources Brown University — LZ experiment sees surprising result in search for dark matter — https://www.brown.edu/news/2026-09-01/lz-dark-matter-results US Department of Energy — LZ Sees Surprising Result in Search for Dark Matter — https://www.energy.gov/science/articles/lz-sees-surprising-result-search-dark-matter Imperial College London — Dark matter hunt takes unexpected turn after puzzling signal spotted in LZ detector — https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/articles/natural-sciences/physics/2026/dark-matter-hunt-takes-unexpected-turn-after-puzzling-signal-spotted-in-lz-detector/ TeVPA 2026 — Search for high-energy dark matter interactions with the LUX-ZEPLIN experiment — https://indico-icehap.phys.s.chiba-u.ac.jp/event/3/contributions/471/ The LZ Dark Matter Experiment — collaboration site — https://lz.lbl.gov/ Space.com — Scientists may have detected the 1st direct evidence of dark matter — https://www.space.com/astronomy/dark-universe/scientists-may-have-detected-the-1st-direct-evidence-of-dark-matter ARC Centre of Excellence for Dark Matter Particle Physics — Stawell Underground Physics Laboratory — https://www.centredarkmatter.org/supl SABRE South — dark matter direct-detection experiment — https://www.sabre-experiment.org.au/ Phys.org — Underground lab clears crucial hurdle for dark matter hunt — https://phys.org/news/2026-04-underground-lab-crucial-hurdle-dark.html Space.com — India sends Earth-imaging satellite toward geosynchronous orbit in milestone launch — https://www.space.com/space-exploration/launches-spacecraft/gslv-mark-ii-eos-05-launch-first-indian-geo-earth-observing-satellite Outlook India — 'Successfully and precisely injected': ISRO chairman hails GSLV-F17 launch — https://www.outlookindia.com/national/successfully-and-precisely-injected-isro-chairman-hails-gslv-f17-launch-eos-05-reaches-orbit Business Standard — ISRO launches India's first imaging satellite in geostationary orbit — https://www.business-standard.com/india-news/isro-launches-india-s-first-imaging-satellite-in-geostationary-orbit-126090400054_1.html Space.com — Rocket issues delay 1st-ever private mission to Venus — https://www.space.com/astronomy/venus/rocket-issues-delay-1st-ever-private-mission-to-venus-we-are-awaiting-neutron-readiness Syracuse University — The Spin Behind Fading Black Hole Flares — https://news.syr.edu/2026/09/01/the-spin-behind-fading-black-hole-flares/ arXiv — The Role of Stellar Spin in Repeating Partial Tidal Disruption Events (2606.02692) — https://arxiv.org/abs/2606.02692 NASA Science — What's Up: September 2026 Skywatching Tips — https://science.nasa.gov/solar-system/skywatching/whats-up-september-2026-skywatching-tips-from-nasa/ Universe Today — Lunar occultations of Jupiter, Venus and more in September — https://www.universetoday.com/articles/penultimate-lunar-occultations-inbound-for-jupiter-venus-and-more-in-september In-The-Sky.org — Lunar occultation of Jupiter, 8 September 2026 — https://in-the-sky.org/news.php?id=20260908_16_100 EarthSky — Sun news: flare, CME and aurora updates — https://earthsky.org/sun/sun-news-activity-solar-flare-cme-aurora-updates/ Space.com — Night sky September 2026: the best things to see this month — https://www.space.com/stargazing/what-to-see-night-sky-september-2026 Follow us: @AstroDailyPod · astronomydaily.io
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Anna: Welcome back to Astronomy daily. It's Friday,
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September 4th, 2026. I'm
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Anna and this is series five, episode
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Avery: And I'm Avery. Anna.
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I want to start today with a number.
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2.6.
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Anna: 2.6 Sigma, which is not a
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discovery.
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Avery: M. You said that very fast.
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Anna: I said it fast because it's the most
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important sentence in the storey. But here's
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the rest of it. A dark matter detector a mile
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underground in South Dakota recorded a single
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flash of light in exactly the place a dark
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matter particle was supposed to show up. And
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the collaboration spent months trying to make
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that flash go away and could not do it.
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Avery: One event.
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Anna: One event. That's our lead.
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Including why we can't explain it. And
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we found dark matter are very different
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sentences.
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Avery: Then India has put its first imaging
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satellite into geostationary orbit. A,
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uh, real first and a capability nobody
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else in the region has.
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Anna: The first private mission to Venus has been
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grounded. Not by Venus, but by a
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rocket that hasn't flown yet.
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Avery: And a lovely piece of physics out of
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Syracuse. Why a star that keeps getting
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torn apart by a black hole puts on a fainter
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show every time.
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Anna: Plus the sky this weekend, both hemispheres
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and a new sunspot worth knowing about.
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Avery: Let's get into it.
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Start me at the beginning. Who announced what
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and where?
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Anna: The LZ collaboration, Lux Zeppelin,
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presented a result this week at TEV Particle
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Astrophysics 2026 in Chiba, Japan, which
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wraps up today. Brown University released it
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on Tuesday. The U.S. department of Energy has
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published its own account. And. And the paper
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has gone to Physical Review Letters.
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Avery: And LZ is the big Xenon one.
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Anna: LZ is the big Xenon one. 10
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tonnes of ultra pure liquid xenon in a tank
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at the Sanford Underground Research facility
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in Lead, South Dakota. That's the old home
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state gold mine. And the detector sits about
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a mile down, roughly 1480
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metres of rock overhead.
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Avery: Why underground?
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Anna: Because the enemy isn't darkness. It's noise.
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At the surface, you're rained on constantly
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by cosmic rays. A mile of rock filters
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nearly all of that out. Then they wrap the
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xenon in a water tank and a veto detector for
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stray neutrons and build it all from
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materials screened for radioactivity to
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absurd levels. The art of this field
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is subtraction. You spend 20 years
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removing every signal you can explain, then
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look at what's left.
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Avery: And what are they hoping is left?
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Anna: A, uh, wimp, weakly interacting massive
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particle. The leading dark matter candidate
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for about 40 years. A heavy particle left
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over from the early universe. That has mass,
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so it pulls on galaxies gravitationally, but
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ignores light and ignores ordinary matter.
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Almost all of the time.
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Avery: Almost all of the time being the operative
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phrase.
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Anna: That's the whole bet. If a WIMP occasionally
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bumps into an atomic nucleus, a big enough
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tub of xenon sitting quietly for long enough
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should eventually record one. The nucleus
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recoils and you get two flashes. A
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prompt one, then a second, from electrons
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drifting up through the liquid. Together they
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tell you where in the tank it happened and
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whether you hit a nucleus or just knocked an
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electron loose.
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Avery: Okay, tell me about the event.
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Anna: It's in data taken between March 2023
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220 live days. That
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dataset has been analysed before. LZ
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published world leading limits from it.
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What's new is that a team went back and
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searched a much wider range of possible
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interactions than the standard analysis
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covers, including higher energies.
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And one event turned up, uh, a nuclear
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recoil in a region where the expected
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background is very close to zero.
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Avery: Higher energy. Is that where you'd expect
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dark matter?
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Anna: No. And that's the first genuinely odd
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thing. The simplest WIMP models put your
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first signal at low energies. This is up the
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other end. Taken at face value, it points to
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a particle of at least 200 giga electron
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volts, more than 200 times the mass of a
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proton, interacting in a way the simplest
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models don't predict.
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Avery: So it's not the WIMP anyone ordered.
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Anna: It is not the WIMP anyone ordered.
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Which cuts both ways. And we'll come back to
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that.
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Avery: Give me the statistics. Honestly.
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Anna: 2.6- Sigma globally, 3.4-
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Sigma locally. And the difference between
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those two numbers is the most useful thing I
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can teach anyone today.
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Avery: Go on.
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Anna: LocalSignificants asks at this
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exact energy for this exact mass,
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how surprising is this event? Fairly
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surprising. Global significance asks the
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fairer question. I searched a whole range of
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masses and energies. So how surprising is it
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that somewhere in that range I found one odd
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thing? Account for the haystack and the
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surprise drops. That's the look elsewhere
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effect. Honest experiments quote both
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and LZ did
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Avery: M and 2.6 Sigma means what? In
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plain terms?
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Anna: Roughly a half a percent chance known
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backgrounds produced it. Which sounds
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compelling until you remember the bar.
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Particle physics calls something a discovery
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at five sigma, about one in three and
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a half million. 2.6 is nowhere near
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it. And physicists have watched three sigma
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results evaporate for decades.
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Avery: Did they try to kill it for months?
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Anna: Cosmic rays, neutrons from the rock,
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radioactivity in the detector materials,
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instrumental artefacts all modelled.
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Aaron Manalaise at Berkeley Lab, who chairs
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LZ's institutional board, said it's the first
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example in any experiment he's worked on of
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an outlier that appears valid in every way.
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That's a striking thing for an
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experimentalist to say out loud.
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Avery: What does the spokesperson say?
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Anna: Rick Gates, skull at Brown, is the
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spokesperson and he's been about as
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disciplined as you can be. His. His line
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with only one event. We don't want to get
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ahead of ourselves. We are not claiming to
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have seen dark matter and separately
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we're very intrigued to see this event in the
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data in the region where we expect dark
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matter to show up and the competing
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backgrounds are very low.
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Avery: Both things at once.
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Anna: Both things at once. And that's the correct
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posture. Sam Erickson at Bristol led the
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analysis and made the point that matters.
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Dark matter events are expected to be so rare
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that only a handful could mark the first
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detection. You can't dismiss one event for
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being single, but you can't build a discovery
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on it either.
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Avery: Is there a UK end um, to this?
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Anna: A significant one. Imperial College
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London did much of the work characterising
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the event and Henrique Araujo there put
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it beautifully. We need to analyse more data
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to be sure, but. But these are certainly
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interesting times.
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Avery: Now you promised the caveat about it not
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being the expected wimp.
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Anna: Two ways to read an unexpected signal.
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The generous one. Nature isn't obliged to
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be simple and 40 years of not finding dark
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matter may be exactly because we searched the
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tidiest places first. The unkind one,
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when a result lands where no model predicted,
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an unmodeled background is a very live
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explanation. The reason you haven't modelled
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it is that you didn't know it was there.
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Avery: Has this field been burned before?
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Anna: Repeatedly. DAMA in Italy has claimed an
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annual dark matter signal for over 20 years
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that nobody else can reproduce.
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Xenon1T reported an excess in 2020
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that caused enormous excitement and was most
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likely tritium contamination. A hydrogen
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isotope at a level almost too small to
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measure. That's the standard to hear this
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week against. To LZ's credit, they've
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published this as an anomaly, not a
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discovery.
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Avery: So what settles it?
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Anna: More xenon and more time. LZ has
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already banked substantially more data than
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went into this analysis and is running toward
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a thousand live days. If it's real,
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the rate is set by physics and more events
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follow. The significance climbs. If it's
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a fluke, it decays as exposure grows
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and A proposed successor, XLZD,
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would hold 10 times the xenon. This
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resolves itself in data, not argument.
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Avery: Southern hemisphere angle. Because dark
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matter feels like a Northern Hemisphere
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sport.
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Anna: It has been. And that's changing for a
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genuinely clever reason. There's now an
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underground lab in Australia, supl.
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kilometre down. A working gold mine in
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western Victoria. It's the first underground
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physics lab in the Southern hemisphere, built
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by the University of Melbourne with the ARC
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Centre of Excellence for Dark Matter Particle
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Physics and Ansto. And its first
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experiment, Sabre south, moves in late
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this year.
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Avery: And why does the hemisphere matter for dark
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matter of all things?
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Anna: Because of dama. Its claim is
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that the signal rises and falls once a year
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as Earth's motion around the sun adds to and
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subtracts from the solar system's motion
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through the galaxy's dark matter halo. The
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trouble is that plenty of ordinary things
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cycle annually too. Temperature,
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radon, cosmic ray rates. And
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in Italy they all peak in summer alongside
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the claimed signal.
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Avery: And in Victoria, the seasons are flipped.
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Anna: The seasons are flipped and the dark matter
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signal isn't. Run a near identical
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detector in the Southern hemisphere and a
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real galactic signal peaks in the same
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calendar month it does in Italy, while a
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seasonal artefact peaks six months out.
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Elegant piece of experiment design. And the
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only place on Earth you can do it is the one
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we happen to broadcast from.
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Avery: So what should people take away from today?
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Anna: Three things. LZ has found something it
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cannot explain in the right place and
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said so honestly. One event is one event and
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2.6 Sigma is a long way from a discovery.
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The detector is running right now. The honest
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headline is dark matter hunters find
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something they can't explain and refuse to
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overclaim it a good day for science, even if
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it isn't the day.
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Avery: On to our second storey today and this one
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is a genuine national first.
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Overnight, our time, 2:55 in the
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morning, Indian Standard Time on the 4th,
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which was 5:25 yesterday evening,
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US Eastern ISRO
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launched EOS05 on a
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GSLV Mark 2 out of Srihari
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Kota.
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Anna: And it's the orbit that's the storey, not the
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rocket.
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Avery: Exactly. EOS05
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is India's first dedicated imaging
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satellite headed for geosynchronous orbit.
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Everything India has flown for Earth
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observation until now has been in low
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orbit a few hundred kilometres up.
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Anna: Spell out the difference for people, a,
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Avery: uh, low orbit imaging satellite is a
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sprinter. It races around the planet in
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90 minutes and gives you a superb,
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very high resolution snapshot of a strip of
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ground and then it's gone. And you wait.
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look in a day or, or several days.
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Anna: Whereas geostationary is a stair.
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Avery: Geostationary is a stair
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36,000 kilometres up, matching
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Earth's rotation. So from the ground, the
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satellite appears to hang motionless over the
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same piece of the planet permanently. You
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don't get a revisit time because you never
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leave.
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Anna: And that changes what you can use it for
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completely.
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Avery: Isro's framing is persistent
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coverage of the subcontinent and the
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applications are obvious once you say it that
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way. A, uh, cyclone forming in the Bay of
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Bengal. You watch it develop
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continuously instead of getting one frame a
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day. A flood, you see the water
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advance, a fire front, a landslide,
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a border. It's a dual use satellite,
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civil and military, and India hasn't been
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shy about that.
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Anna: There's a trade off though, surely there
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Avery: is, and it's worth being honest about it.
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You are imagining from a hundred times
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further away than a low orbit satellite,
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so the resolution is inevitably coarser.
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You are not reading number plates from
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geostationary orbit. What you're
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buying is time, not detail. And
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for disaster response, time is usually the
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thing you're short of.
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Anna: How did the launch go clean?
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Avery: The Spacecraft is about
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kilogrammes, and ISRO chairman V
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Narayanan said it was successfully and
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precisely injected into its planned orbit.
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From here, EOS05 works
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its way up to its final station over the
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coming days.
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Anna: And the GSLV has had a mixed history.
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Avery: It has, which is part of why this matters to
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ISRO. The GSLV
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MK2 has now flown 12 times for
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10 successes. That's a vehicle that has
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visibly matured and it's the one carrying
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India's heavier missions to high orbit.
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Anna: Small country club.
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Avery: This very small,
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dedicated, high resolution imaging from
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geostationary orbit is a capability
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only a handful of nations have ever fielded.
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India has just joined that list and it did
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it with its own rocket from its own
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spaceport.
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Anna: Third storey, and it's a frustrating one. The
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first privately funded mission to another
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planet is still on the ground and it's going
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to stay there for a while yet.
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Avery: This is the Venus Life Finder.
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Anna: That's it. It's an MIT led mission
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driven by Sarah Seager, flying in partnership
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with Rocket Lab, and it is beautifully,
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almost aggressively simple. A small
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probe, one instrument, a few minutes of
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useful life.
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Avery: One instrument. That's it.
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Anna: One instrument. It's called an
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autofluorescence nifalometer, which is a
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mouthful for a fairly elegant idea. You
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fire an ultraviolet laser into the cloud
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droplets. As you fall through them, certain
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organic molecules absorb ultraviolet light
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and re emit it at a different wavelength.
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They fluoresce. So the instrument is looking
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for a glow that ordinary sulfuric acid
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chemistry shouldn't produce.
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Avery: And why the clouds, specifically?
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Anna: Because the surface of Venus is out of the
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question. 460 odd
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degrees, 90 atmospheres, but
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between about 45 and 60 kilometres up,
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the temperature and pressure are, uh, close
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to conditions at sea level on Earth.
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Extremely acidic, but not thermodynamically
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hopeless. That's the only plausible
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habitable niche on the planet. And it's what
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the 2020 phosphine claim put back on the
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table. A result that is still genuinely
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disputed and which this mission is designed
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to go and settle rather than argue about.
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Avery: So why isn't it flying?
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Anna: Neutron. The mission moved onto Rocket
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Lab's new medium lift rocket and Neutron
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hasn't flown yet. It was originally talked
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about for 2024, slipped to
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2026 and it's still in qualification.
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The launch date on Rocket Lab's own website
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now simply says to be confirmed.
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Avery: How is Seeger taking it?
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Anna: With more grace than I would. Her
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line was, we are awaiting neutron
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readiness. And she went on to say she
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continues to have high hopes for the mission
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and for its role in demonstrating what
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private enterprise can do in space
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exploration.
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Avery: There's an irony in there somewhere.
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Anna: There's a real one. The whole pitch of this
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mission was speed. That a small,
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focused, privately funded probe could go
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and answer one sharp question years before an
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agency flight could be approved, built and
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launched. And it's now waiting on launch
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capacity, which is the one part of the
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problem private industry was supposed to have
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solved.
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Avery: Meanwhile, Venus is getting crowded.
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Anna: It is. NASA's DaVinci and
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Veritas and Europe's Envision are all in
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the pipeline. For around the end of this
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decade, the Venus Life Finder was meant to be
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the scrappy one that got there first. And
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that lead is quietly evaporating on a launch
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pad in Virginia.
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Avery: Last news storey and it's pure
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astrophysics, published in the
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Astrophysical Journal on Tuesday, led by
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Ananya Bandopadhyay, a doctoral
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student at Syracuse University with Benjamin
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Amend and Eric Coughlin, plus collaborators
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at Leeds MIT and the Space
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Telescope Science Institute.
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Anna: And the puzzle is about stars that survive
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being eaten.
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Avery: Partly eaten. When a star wanders too
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close to a supermassive black hole and is
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ripped apart entirely, that's a tidal
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disruption event. One enormous flare
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and it's over. But there's a smaller
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class where the star is only partly stripped
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on each pass, survives and comes back
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around.
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Anna: So it flares over and over, over
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Avery: and over on a schedule. The
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Famous one is Assassin 14 Ko,
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which flares roughly every 114
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days and has done so for years.
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There are now something like seven or eight
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of these known.
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Anna: And what's the problem?
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Avery: The flares get dimmer each time. Which
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sounds intuitive. Less star left to strip.
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opposite. Strip material from a star and
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it puffs up. And a puffier star is
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easier to strip next time round.
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Models kept producing flares that got
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brighter and the sky kept producing flares
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that got fainter.
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Anna: So what's the missing ingredient?
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Avery: Spin. This team ran
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hydrodynamic simulations of a high mass
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main sequence star being repeatedly
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disrupted by a black hole of about a million
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solar masses. And the key move was
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giving the star a fast rotation before the
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first encounter, spinning in the same
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direction as its orbit.
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Anna: Why does that change the outcome?
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Avery: Because ordinarily, the encounter itself
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spins the star up. And that spin up is
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part of what makes the next pass more
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violent. If the star arrives already
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rotating at a decent fraction of its breakup
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speed, there's very little extra spin to give
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it. The debris then falls back to the black
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hole, spread over a longer stretch of time
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instead of arriving in one lump. And the same
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material dribbling in over longer makes a
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fainter, more drawn out flare.
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Anna: Spread the fuel out and the fire is lower.
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Avery: That's it exactly. And with tens of
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percent of breakup rotation prograde,
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the simulations reproduce the dimming that's
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actually observed.
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Anna: Does it tell us anything about how the star
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got there in the first place?
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Avery: It does. And that's the bonus. A
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fast spinning star on a tight orbit around a
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supermassive black hole fits the Hill's
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mechanism. A, uh, binary pair strays too
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close. The black hole keeps one star
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and flings the other away at enormous speed.
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The captured one lands exactly where you need
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it. So the spin isn't an arbitrary
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knob. It's a fingerprint of how these systems
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get built.
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Anna: Right, let's get you outside. And the Moon is
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doing us a favour this weekend.
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Avery: Last quarter today.
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Anna: Last quarter today. September 4th. Which
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means it doesn't rise until around midnight.
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So. So the entire evening is dark. If you
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have been waiting for a night to actually
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look at something faint, this is the weekend.
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Avery: Southern hemisphere first.
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Anna: Southern hemisphere first because we get the
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best of it from Sydney. The sun sets about 20
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to 6 now, and once it's properly Dark. The
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centre of the Milky Way is high overhead.
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Sagittarius and Scorpius almost directly
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above you. From mid southern latitudes, the
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galactic core passes near the zenith, so
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you're looking through the least possible
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atmosphere. Northern listeners get the same
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object low and murky above the southern
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horizon. It's the one thing we can be smug
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about. And September is the last good month
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before it sinks westward.
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Avery: What do you actually look at?
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Anna: Find the teapot of Sagittarius with the naked
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eye and let your eye drift up out of the
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spout. That steam is the galactic
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centre. Binoculars turn it into star clouds
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and dark lanes. And the Lagoon Nebula is
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sitting right there, along with a dozen
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globular clusters.
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Avery: Planets.
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Anna: Venus in the west after sunset. Brilliant,
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unmistakable. Low and building toward
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greatest Brilliancy on the 18th.
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Saturn is up most of the night in Aquarius,
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climbing toward opposition on October 4th.
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And from here it passes far higher overhead
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than it does for northern observers.
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Avery: Pre dawn.
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Anna: Jupiter is the predawn showpiece, well up in
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the east before sunrise. And on Sunday
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morning the 6th, Mars sits just a few
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degrees below a thin, waning crescent Moon.
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That's a lovely one for a phone camera if
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you're up early.
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Avery: Now North America, because there's a proper
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event coming.
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Anna: On Tuesday the 8th, the moon occults
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Jupiter. The planet passes behind the
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lunar disc. The footprint favours
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northeastern Asia, where it happens in the
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dawn sky, and eastern North America
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where it happens after sunrise in broad
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daylight. Daylight,
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daylight. Which brings us to the standing
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reminder. And it applies directly here.
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If you are observing anywhere near the sun,
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hunting for Jupiter in a bright sky or
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looking at the sunspot. I'm about to mention
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any filter you use for direct solar viewing
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must be certified to the ISO
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123122 standard.
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Not sunglasses, not welding glass of unknown
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grade, not smoked glass, not a phone screen.
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ISO
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123122
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and cheque. The certification is real.
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Sweeping binoculars or a telescope across a
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daylight sky is exactly the situation where
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people injure themselves permanently and it
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takes a fraction of a second.
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Avery: And the day after there's one for us.
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Anna: M the ninth, the Moon occults
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Regulus, the brightest star in Leo. And
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that footprint runs across the South Pacific.
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New Caledonia, best placed. Not Australia,
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unfortunately. But if you're in that track, a
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first magnitude star vanishing off the edge
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of the Moon is one of the sharpest things
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you'll ever see. Instantaneous.
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Avery: You mentioned a Sunspot, a new one,
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Anna: Active Region 4524, which
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rotated into view over the northeastern limb
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this week and has been busy. It fired an M
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M3 flare peaking at 19:20 Universal
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Time on Wednesday the 2nd, plus a stack of
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smaller ones. The coronal mass ejection from
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that flare isn't aimed at us, but a filament
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eruption the same day threw out material that
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may deliver a glancing blow around Monday the
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7th. Aurora chances
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modest and honest quiet conditions through
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the weekend, so nothing to promise tonight or
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Saturday. Monday is the one to watch. And if
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anything comes of it, the people with a shot
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are Tasmania and southern New Zealand down
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here and the northern tier of the us, Canada
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and Scotland up there. Watch the space
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weather feeds rather than the headlines.
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Avery: And one for northern observers with
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binoculars.
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Anna: The Double Cluster in Perseus. Two open
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clusters side by side in the same binocular
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field. Naked eye. It's a smudge in
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binoculars. It's one of the best sights in
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the sky and a moonless evening is exactly
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when to try it.
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Avery: And that's episode 185.
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A dark matter detector a mile underground
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has recorded one flash of light it cannot
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explain and has been admirably careful
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about what that does and and doesn't mean.
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Anna: India has put its first imaging satellite on
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station over the subcontinent. The first
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private mission to Venus is stuck waiting on
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a rocket that hasn't flown. And a star that
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keeps surviving a black hole shines a little
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fainter each time because of how fast it was
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already spinning.
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Avery: Full show notes, links to every primary
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source and the whole back catalogue are, uh,
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@astronomydaily.IO.
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Anna: you can find us on X Instagram and
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TikTok Strodaily pod.
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And if you've got a question or a correction,
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we genuinely want it. There's a contact form
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on the website.
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Avery: And if today's episode was useful, the single
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most helpful thing you can do is send it to
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one person who'd enjoy it.
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Anna: It's the weekend. Get outside and look up
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while the Moon's out of the way.
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Until tomorrow. Clear skies.
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Avery: Clear skies.
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Anna: Astronomy Day
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storeys
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the.
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Storey.
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Anna: Welcome back to Astronomy daily. It's Friday,
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September 4th, 2026. I'm
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Anna and this is series five, episode
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185.
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Avery: And I'm Avery. Anna.
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I want to start today with a number.
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2.6.
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Anna: 2.6 Sigma, which is not a
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discovery.
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Avery: M. You said that very fast.
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Anna: I said it fast because it's the most
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important sentence in the storey. But here's
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the rest of it. A dark matter detector a mile
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underground in South Dakota recorded a single
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flash of light in exactly the place a dark
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matter particle was supposed to show up. And
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the collaboration spent months trying to make
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that flash go away and could not do it.
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Avery: One event.
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Anna: One event. That's our lead.
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Including why we can't explain it. And
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we found dark matter are very different
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sentences.
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Avery: Then India has put its first imaging
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satellite into geostationary orbit. A,
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uh, real first and a capability nobody
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else in the region has.
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Anna: The first private mission to Venus has been
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grounded. Not by Venus, but by a
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rocket that hasn't flown yet.
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Avery: And a lovely piece of physics out of
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Syracuse. Why a star that keeps getting
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torn apart by a black hole puts on a fainter
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show every time.
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Anna: Plus the sky this weekend, both hemispheres
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and a new sunspot worth knowing about.
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Avery: Let's get into it.
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Start me at the beginning. Who announced what
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and where?
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Anna: The LZ collaboration, Lux Zeppelin,
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presented a result this week at TEV Particle
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Astrophysics 2026 in Chiba, Japan, which
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wraps up today. Brown University released it
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on Tuesday. The U.S. department of Energy has
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published its own account. And. And the paper
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has gone to Physical Review Letters.
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Avery: And LZ is the big Xenon one.
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Anna: LZ is the big Xenon one. 10
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tonnes of ultra pure liquid xenon in a tank
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at the Sanford Underground Research facility
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in Lead, South Dakota. That's the old home
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state gold mine. And the detector sits about
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a mile down, roughly 1480
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metres of rock overhead.
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Avery: Why underground?
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Anna: Because the enemy isn't darkness. It's noise.
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At the surface, you're rained on constantly
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by cosmic rays. A mile of rock filters
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nearly all of that out. Then they wrap the
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xenon in a water tank and a veto detector for
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stray neutrons and build it all from
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materials screened for radioactivity to
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absurd levels. The art of this field
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is subtraction. You spend 20 years
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removing every signal you can explain, then
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look at what's left.
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Avery: And what are they hoping is left?
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Anna: A, uh, wimp, weakly interacting massive
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particle. The leading dark matter candidate
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for about 40 years. A heavy particle left
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over from the early universe. That has mass,
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so it pulls on galaxies gravitationally, but
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ignores light and ignores ordinary matter.
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Almost all of the time.
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Avery: Almost all of the time being the operative
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phrase.
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Anna: That's the whole bet. If a WIMP occasionally
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bumps into an atomic nucleus, a big enough
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tub of xenon sitting quietly for long enough
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should eventually record one. The nucleus
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recoils and you get two flashes. A
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prompt one, then a second, from electrons
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drifting up through the liquid. Together they
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tell you where in the tank it happened and
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whether you hit a nucleus or just knocked an
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electron loose.
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Avery: Okay, tell me about the event.
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Anna: It's in data taken between March 2023
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and April 2024.
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220 live days. That
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dataset has been analysed before. LZ
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published world leading limits from it.
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What's new is that a team went back and
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searched a much wider range of possible
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interactions than the standard analysis
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covers, including higher energies.
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And one event turned up, uh, a nuclear
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recoil in a region where the expected
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background is very close to zero.
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Avery: Higher energy. Is that where you'd expect
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dark matter?
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Anna: No. And that's the first genuinely odd
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thing. The simplest WIMP models put your
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first signal at low energies. This is up the
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other end. Taken at face value, it points to
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a particle of at least 200 giga electron
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volts, more than 200 times the mass of a
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proton, interacting in a way the simplest
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models don't predict.
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Avery: So it's not the WIMP anyone ordered.
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Anna: It is not the WIMP anyone ordered.
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Which cuts both ways. And we'll come back to
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that.
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Avery: Give me the statistics. Honestly.
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Anna: 2.6- Sigma globally, 3.4-
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Sigma locally. And the difference between
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those two numbers is the most useful thing I
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can teach anyone today.
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Avery: Go on.
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Anna: LocalSignificants asks at this
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exact energy for this exact mass,
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how surprising is this event? Fairly
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surprising. Global significance asks the
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fairer question. I searched a whole range of
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masses and energies. So how surprising is it
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that somewhere in that range I found one odd
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thing? Account for the haystack and the
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surprise drops. That's the look elsewhere
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effect. Honest experiments quote both
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Avery: M and 2.6 Sigma means what? In
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backgrounds produced it. Which sounds
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compelling until you remember the bar.
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at five sigma, about one in three and
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a half million. 2.6 is nowhere near
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it. And physicists have watched three sigma
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results evaporate for decades.
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LZ's institutional board, said it's the first
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an outlier that appears valid in every way.
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Avery: What does the spokesperson say?
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spokesperson and he's been about as
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disciplined as you can be. His. His line
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with only one event. We don't want to get
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ahead of ourselves. We are not claiming to
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have seen dark matter and separately
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data in the region where we expect dark
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matter to show up and the competing
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Avery: Both things at once.
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Anna: Both things at once. And that's the correct
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posture. Sam Erickson at Bristol led the
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analysis and made the point that matters.
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that only a handful could mark the first
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detection. You can't dismiss one event for
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being single, but you can't build a discovery
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on it either.
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Avery: Is there a UK end um, to this?
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Anna: A significant one. Imperial College
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the event and Henrique Araujo there put
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it beautifully. We need to analyse more data
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to be sure, but. But these are certainly
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Avery: Now you promised the caveat about it not
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being the expected wimp.
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Anna: Two ways to read an unexpected signal.
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be simple and 40 years of not finding dark
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tidiest places first. The unkind one,
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when a result lands where no model predicted,
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Avery: Has this field been burned before?
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that nobody else can reproduce.
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that caused enormous excitement and was most
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likely tritium contamination. A hydrogen
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isotope at a level almost too small to
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measure. That's the standard to hear this
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week against. To LZ's credit, they've
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a thousand live days. If it's real,
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the rate is set by physics and more events
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follow. The significance climbs. If it's
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resolves itself in data, not argument.
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Avery: Southern hemisphere angle. Because dark
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matter feels like a Northern Hemisphere
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Anna: It has been. And that's changing for a
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genuinely clever reason. There's now an
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underground lab in Australia, supl.
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kilometre down. A working gold mine in
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western Victoria. It's the first underground
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physics lab in the Southern hemisphere, built
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Centre of Excellence for Dark Matter Particle
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experiment, Sabre south, moves in late
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Avery: And why does the hemisphere matter for dark
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matter of all things?
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that the signal rises and falls once a year
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as Earth's motion around the sun adds to and
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subtracts from the solar system's motion
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through the galaxy's dark matter halo. The
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cycle annually too. Temperature,
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radon, cosmic ray rates. And
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in Italy they all peak in summer alongside
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the claimed signal.
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Avery: And in Victoria, the seasons are flipped.
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signal isn't. Run a near identical
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detector in the Southern hemisphere and a
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real galactic signal peaks in the same
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calendar month it does in Italy, while a
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seasonal artefact peaks six months out.
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Elegant piece of experiment design. And the
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only place on Earth you can do it is the one
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we happen to broadcast from.
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Avery: So what should people take away from today?
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Anna: Three things. LZ has found something it
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cannot explain in the right place and
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said so honestly. One event is one event and
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The detector is running right now. The honest
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headline is dark matter hunters find
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something they can't explain and refuse to
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overclaim it a good day for science, even if
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it isn't the day.
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Avery: On to our second storey today and this one
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is a genuine national first.
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morning, Indian Standard Time on the 4th,
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which was 5:25 yesterday evening,
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GSLV Mark 2 out of Srihari
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Anna: And it's the orbit that's the storey, not the
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rocket.
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Avery: Exactly. EOS05
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is India's first dedicated imaging
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satellite headed for geosynchronous orbit.
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observation until now has been in low
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orbit a few hundred kilometres up.
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Anna: Spell out the difference for people, a,
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Avery: uh, low orbit imaging satellite is a
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sprinter. It races around the planet in
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90 minutes and gives you a superb,
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very high resolution snapshot of a strip of
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ground and then it's gone. And you wait.
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Anna: Whereas geostationary is a stair.
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36,000 kilometres up, matching
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Earth's rotation. So from the ground, the
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satellite appears to hang motionless over the
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same piece of the planet permanently. You
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don't get a revisit time because you never
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Anna: And that changes what you can use it for
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completely.
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coverage of the subcontinent and the
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applications are obvious once you say it that
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way. A, uh, cyclone forming in the Bay of
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Bengal. You watch it develop
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continuously instead of getting one frame a
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day. A flood, you see the water
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advance, a fire front, a landslide,
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a border. It's a dual use satellite,
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civil and military, and India hasn't been
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shy about that.
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Anna: There's a trade off though, surely there
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Avery: is, and it's worth being honest about it.
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You are imagining from a hundred times
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further away than a low orbit satellite,
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so the resolution is inevitably coarser.
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geostationary orbit. What you're
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buying is time, not detail. And
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for disaster response, time is usually the
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thing you're short of.
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Anna: How did the launch go clean?
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Avery: The Spacecraft is about
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kilogrammes, and ISRO chairman V
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Narayanan said it was successfully and
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precisely injected into its planned orbit.
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Anna: And the GSLV has had a mixed history.
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10 successes. That's a vehicle that has
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visibly matured and it's the one carrying
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Anna: Small country club.
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geostationary orbit is a capability
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only a handful of nations have ever fielded.
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India has just joined that list and it did
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it with its own rocket from its own
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Anna: Third storey, and it's a frustrating one. The
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first privately funded mission to another
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planet is still on the ground and it's going
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to stay there for a while yet.
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Avery: This is the Venus Life Finder.
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Anna: That's it. It's an MIT led mission
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driven by Sarah Seager, flying in partnership
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with Rocket Lab, and it is beautifully,
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almost aggressively simple. A small
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probe, one instrument, a few minutes of
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useful life.
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autofluorescence nifalometer, which is a
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mouthful for a fairly elegant idea. You
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fire an ultraviolet laser into the cloud
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droplets. As you fall through them, certain
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organic molecules absorb ultraviolet light
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chemistry shouldn't produce.
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Avery: And why the clouds, specifically?
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degrees, 90 atmospheres, but
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hopeless. That's the only plausible
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habitable niche on the planet. And it's what
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the 2020 phosphine claim put back on the
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table. A result that is still genuinely
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disputed and which this mission is designed
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to go and settle rather than argue about.
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Avery: So why isn't it flying?
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Anna: Neutron. The mission moved onto Rocket
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2026 and it's still in qualification.
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now simply says to be confirmed.
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Avery: How is Seeger taking it?
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Anna: With more grace than I would. Her
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line was, we are awaiting neutron
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readiness. And she went on to say she
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continues to have high hopes for the mission
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private enterprise can do in space
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exploration.
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Avery: There's an irony in there somewhere.
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mission was speed. That a small,
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focused, privately funded probe could go
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and answer one sharp question years before an
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agency flight could be approved, built and
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launched. And it's now waiting on launch
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capacity, which is the one part of the
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problem private industry was supposed to have
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solved.
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Avery: Meanwhile, Venus is getting crowded.
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Anna: It is. NASA's DaVinci and
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Veritas and Europe's Envision are all in
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the pipeline. For around the end of this
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decade, the Venus Life Finder was meant to be
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the scrappy one that got there first. And
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that lead is quietly evaporating on a launch
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pad in Virginia.
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Avery: Last news storey and it's pure
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astrophysics, published in the
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Astrophysical Journal on Tuesday, led by
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Ananya Bandopadhyay, a doctoral
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student at Syracuse University with Benjamin
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Amend and Eric Coughlin, plus collaborators
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at Leeds MIT and the Space
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Telescope Science Institute.
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Anna: And the puzzle is about stars that survive
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being eaten.
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Avery: Partly eaten. When a star wanders too
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close to a supermassive black hole and is
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ripped apart entirely, that's a tidal
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disruption event. One enormous flare
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and it's over. But there's a smaller
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class where the star is only partly stripped
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on each pass, survives and comes back
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around.
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Anna: So it flares over and over, over
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Avery: and over on a schedule. The
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Famous one is Assassin 14 Ko,
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which flares roughly every 114
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days and has done so for years.
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There are now something like seven or eight
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of these known.
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Anna: And what's the problem?
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Avery: The flares get dimmer each time. Which
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sounds intuitive. Less star left to strip.
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Except the simulations kept saying the
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opposite. Strip material from a star and
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it puffs up. And a puffier star is
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easier to strip next time round.
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Models kept producing flares that got
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brighter and the sky kept producing flares
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that got fainter.
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Anna: So what's the missing ingredient?
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Avery: Spin. This team ran
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hydrodynamic simulations of a high mass
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main sequence star being repeatedly
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disrupted by a black hole of about a million
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solar masses. And the key move was
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giving the star a fast rotation before the
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first encounter, spinning in the same
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direction as its orbit.
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Anna: Why does that change the outcome?
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Avery: Because ordinarily, the encounter itself
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spins the star up. And that spin up is
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part of what makes the next pass more
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violent. If the star arrives already
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rotating at a decent fraction of its breakup
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speed, there's very little extra spin to give
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it. The debris then falls back to the black
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hole, spread over a longer stretch of time
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instead of arriving in one lump. And the same
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material dribbling in over longer makes a
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fainter, more drawn out flare.
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Anna: Spread the fuel out and the fire is lower.
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Avery: That's it exactly. And with tens of
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percent of breakup rotation prograde,
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the simulations reproduce the dimming that's
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actually observed.
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Anna: Does it tell us anything about how the star
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got there in the first place?
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Avery: It does. And that's the bonus. A
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fast spinning star on a tight orbit around a
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supermassive black hole fits the Hill's
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mechanism. A, uh, binary pair strays too
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close. The black hole keeps one star
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and flings the other away at enormous speed.
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The captured one lands exactly where you need
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it. So the spin isn't an arbitrary
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knob. It's a fingerprint of how these systems
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get built.
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Anna: Right, let's get you outside. And the Moon is
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doing us a favour this weekend.
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Avery: Last quarter today.
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Anna: Last quarter today. September 4th. Which
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means it doesn't rise until around midnight.
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So. So the entire evening is dark. If you
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have been waiting for a night to actually
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look at something faint, this is the weekend.
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Avery: Southern hemisphere first.
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Anna: Southern hemisphere first because we get the
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best of it from Sydney. The sun sets about 20
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to 6 now, and once it's properly Dark. The
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centre of the Milky Way is high overhead.
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Sagittarius and Scorpius almost directly
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above you. From mid southern latitudes, the
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galactic core passes near the zenith, so
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you're looking through the least possible
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atmosphere. Northern listeners get the same
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object low and murky above the southern
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horizon. It's the one thing we can be smug
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about. And September is the last good month
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before it sinks westward.
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Avery: What do you actually look at?
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Anna: Find the teapot of Sagittarius with the naked
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eye and let your eye drift up out of the
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spout. That steam is the galactic
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centre. Binoculars turn it into star clouds
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and dark lanes. And the Lagoon Nebula is
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sitting right there, along with a dozen
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globular clusters.
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Avery: Planets.
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Anna: Venus in the west after sunset. Brilliant,
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unmistakable. Low and building toward
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greatest Brilliancy on the 18th.
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Saturn is up most of the night in Aquarius,
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climbing toward opposition on October 4th.
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And from here it passes far higher overhead
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than it does for northern observers.
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Avery: Pre dawn.
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Anna: Jupiter is the predawn showpiece, well up in
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the east before sunrise. And on Sunday
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morning the 6th, Mars sits just a few
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degrees below a thin, waning crescent Moon.
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That's a lovely one for a phone camera if
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you're up early.
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Avery: Now North America, because there's a proper
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event coming.
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Anna: On Tuesday the 8th, the moon occults
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Jupiter. The planet passes behind the
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lunar disc. The footprint favours
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northeastern Asia, where it happens in the
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dawn sky, and eastern North America
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where it happens after sunrise in broad
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daylight. Daylight,
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daylight. Which brings us to the standing
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reminder. And it applies directly here.
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If you are observing anywhere near the sun,
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hunting for Jupiter in a bright sky or
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looking at the sunspot. I'm about to mention
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any filter you use for direct solar viewing
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must be certified to the ISO
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123122 standard.
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Not sunglasses, not welding glass of unknown
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grade, not smoked glass, not a phone screen.
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ISO
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123122
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and cheque. The certification is real.
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Sweeping binoculars or a telescope across a
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daylight sky is exactly the situation where
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people injure themselves permanently and it
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takes a fraction of a second.
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Avery: And the day after there's one for us.
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Anna: M the ninth, the Moon occults
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Regulus, the brightest star in Leo. And
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that footprint runs across the South Pacific.
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New Caledonia, best placed. Not Australia,
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unfortunately. But if you're in that track, a
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first magnitude star vanishing off the edge
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of the Moon is one of the sharpest things
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you'll ever see. Instantaneous.
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Avery: You mentioned a Sunspot, a new one,
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Anna: Active Region 4524, which
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rotated into view over the northeastern limb
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this week and has been busy. It fired an M
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M3 flare peaking at 19:20 Universal
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Time on Wednesday the 2nd, plus a stack of
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smaller ones. The coronal mass ejection from
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that flare isn't aimed at us, but a filament
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eruption the same day threw out material that
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may deliver a glancing blow around Monday the
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7th. Aurora chances
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modest and honest quiet conditions through
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the weekend, so nothing to promise tonight or
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Saturday. Monday is the one to watch. And if
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anything comes of it, the people with a shot
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are Tasmania and southern New Zealand down
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here and the northern tier of the us, Canada
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and Scotland up there. Watch the space
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weather feeds rather than the headlines.
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Avery: And one for northern observers with
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binoculars.
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Anna: The Double Cluster in Perseus. Two open
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clusters side by side in the same binocular
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field. Naked eye. It's a smudge in
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binoculars. It's one of the best sights in
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the sky and a moonless evening is exactly
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when to try it.
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Avery: And that's episode 185.
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A dark matter detector a mile underground
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has recorded one flash of light it cannot
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explain and has been admirably careful
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about what that does and and doesn't mean.
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Anna: India has put its first imaging satellite on
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station over the subcontinent. The first
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private mission to Venus is stuck waiting on
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a rocket that hasn't flown. And a star that
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keeps surviving a black hole shines a little
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fainter each time because of how fast it was
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already spinning.
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Avery: Full show notes, links to every primary
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source and the whole back catalogue are, uh,
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@astronomydaily.IO.
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Anna: you can find us on X Instagram and
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TikTok Strodaily pod.
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And if you've got a question or a correction,
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we genuinely want it. There's a contact form
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on the website.
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Avery: And if today's episode was useful, the single
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most helpful thing you can do is send it to
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one person who'd enjoy it.
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Anna: It's the weekend. Get outside and look up
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while the Moon's out of the way.
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Until tomorrow. Clear skies.
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Avery: Clear skies.
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Anna: Astronomy Day
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storeys
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the.
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Storey.