S02E14: Recalling Tragedy: Exploring 'November' and a Feel-Good Journey in 'Book Club: The Next Chapte

WEBVTT

1
00:00:06.599 --> 00:00:11.199
First on film and entertainment. We
have with us Jackie Hamilton only for a

2
00:00:11.199 --> 00:00:14.800
few minutes. There are other commitments
in her life that are far more important

3
00:00:14.800 --> 00:00:17.640
than us. Jackie, we understand, but nice to have you with us.

4
00:00:18.280 --> 00:00:23.480
Good morning. Oh that's it,
No, no dissertation. I wanted

5
00:00:23.519 --> 00:00:26.079
a little bit of, you know, padding from you at this point.

6
00:00:26.120 --> 00:00:30.039
Anyway, Good morning and lovely to
be with you. Thanks. Oh that's

7
00:00:30.120 --> 00:00:34.840
much much better. Peter Crouse,
I wasn't referring to you as padding because

8
00:00:34.880 --> 00:00:40.679
you never are. Your valuable contribution. Even though it's argumentative, it is

9
00:00:40.759 --> 00:00:44.679
never correct. I still accept that. Isn't that good of me? That

10
00:00:44.840 --> 00:00:47.600
is so nice of you, even
though you're wrong most of the time.

11
00:00:48.479 --> 00:00:54.399
A deep seated sense of understanding comes
with our fraught relationship. There we go,

12
00:00:54.679 --> 00:00:57.759
what could be better than that?
Folks? Having said that, we

13
00:00:57.799 --> 00:01:02.359
want to start with a movie that
I found deeply affecting. Now I have

14
00:01:02.600 --> 00:01:10.920
spoken with Jackie off camera microphone about
this, and once again I've got two

15
00:01:10.959 --> 00:01:14.079
recalcitor in individuals. Because I think
her take on it is going to be

16
00:01:14.239 --> 00:01:19.000
decidedly different from mine. I suspect
Peter will favor my view. But there

17
00:01:19.000 --> 00:01:22.319
we go, let's find out we're
talking about what month are in May.

18
00:01:22.879 --> 00:01:26.120
Let's skip forward to what about six
months November. That's the name of the

19
00:01:26.159 --> 00:01:30.480
movie. It's m RATD. It's
one hundred and seven minutes and actually it's

20
00:01:30.480 --> 00:01:34.400
a very very serious topic. Let's
go back in history. We're going back

21
00:01:34.439 --> 00:01:40.159
around about our seven and a half
eight years in fact, thirteenth of November

22
00:01:40.319 --> 00:01:45.000
two thousand and fifteen. And unfortunately
this was seered into my mind, and

23
00:01:45.079 --> 00:01:49.760
I dare say the two people I'm
speaking with will recollect it. Similarly,

24
00:01:49.000 --> 00:01:55.480
there were a series of coordinated terrorist
attacks that took place in Paris and also

25
00:01:55.719 --> 00:02:00.560
the city's northern suburb, Saint Denis, on that particular date. One hundred

26
00:02:00.560 --> 00:02:04.359
and thirty people killed. There were
four hundred and sixteen that were injured.

27
00:02:04.480 --> 00:02:08.039
Peter, you remember this, I
presume from the news. Absolutely, it

28
00:02:08.080 --> 00:02:14.879
was covered quite extensively, and Jackie
you likewise absolutely. Yeah. Well,

29
00:02:14.919 --> 00:02:17.360
I mean it was one of those
periods because France was already on a higher

30
00:02:17.360 --> 00:02:22.919
alert. A couple of gunmen who
had attacked the headquarters of the satirical newspaper

31
00:02:23.280 --> 00:02:27.719
Charlie heb Do on the seventh of
January that year, So in other words,

32
00:02:27.879 --> 00:02:30.479
we're talking about the start of the
year. This movie concentrates on the

33
00:02:30.560 --> 00:02:38.960
end of that year. I remember
it well insofar as I was there soon

34
00:02:38.080 --> 00:02:43.080
after the Charlie hebdo. I was
there with my wife soon after the Charlie

35
00:02:43.080 --> 00:02:49.000
hebd incident, and that twelve people
died in that one and eleven were wounded,

36
00:02:49.319 --> 00:02:53.960
and the city was on high alert. I remember it anyway, November.

37
00:02:53.039 --> 00:02:59.039
This movie is the tension filled story
of the five days that followed the

38
00:02:59.120 --> 00:03:05.479
thirteenth of Mber attacks and the anti
terrorist police's attempt to track down those involved.

39
00:03:05.639 --> 00:03:09.400
And I mean it's not hard to
believe it is real. Nerves were

40
00:03:09.400 --> 00:03:13.800
frayed. I mean no question about
it. Time was of the essence because

41
00:03:13.840 --> 00:03:20.520
those questions made it clear to the
authorities that this was only the start of

42
00:03:20.560 --> 00:03:25.080
a bloody campaign by ISIS, and
the film focuses on the lead investigators of

43
00:03:25.120 --> 00:03:30.639
the French anti terrorism services. What
is interesting is that all the terrorists that

44
00:03:30.680 --> 00:03:37.919
are named are actually the names of
the terrorists, but the character names outside

45
00:03:37.960 --> 00:03:43.240
those are fictitious. So, Peter, what they've done is they've created characters

46
00:03:43.319 --> 00:03:49.199
or amalgams of characters. Correct,
That's absolutely right for various reasons, including

47
00:03:49.280 --> 00:03:52.759
legal reasons. Yes, yeah,
and so among these characters, I'll go

48
00:03:52.800 --> 00:03:57.919
through some of them. There's Hellois
played by Sandrine Kibolane under pressure from the

49
00:03:57.919 --> 00:04:02.159
Minister's office, and then her chief
commander, fred Jean de Jardin, who

50
00:04:02.319 --> 00:04:08.479
is intense and driven. Now,
also the same could be said about the

51
00:04:08.479 --> 00:04:14.000
Captain Innis Moray played by Annis Demastie, but she steps outside the rules of

52
00:04:14.039 --> 00:04:18.319
protocol and has a lot of making
up to do. And then there's another

53
00:04:18.319 --> 00:04:24.240
figure of note in this one,
a civilian informant called Samya played by Lena

54
00:04:24.319 --> 00:04:29.800
Kudre. She risks her life for
the greater good, but that comes at

55
00:04:29.879 --> 00:04:36.120
considerable cost. Now the film has
been written or co written with Olivier de

56
00:04:36.279 --> 00:04:43.800
Mangel and is directed by Cedric Jimenez, and it's an insight into the desperation,

57
00:04:43.879 --> 00:04:48.560
the determination, the dedication that surrounded
the days following the attacks. That

58
00:04:48.839 --> 00:04:53.319
is basically what the essence of it
is. And the anks the tension are

59
00:04:53.360 --> 00:04:59.360
palpable throughout the performances and the cinematography
I thought very very strong. There are

60
00:04:59.439 --> 00:05:03.879
so many he leads to chase up
and unless somebody comes out and immediately declares

61
00:05:03.920 --> 00:05:08.600
it's them, and even if they
do, it's a question of tracking down

62
00:05:09.279 --> 00:05:13.839
who they are, the people involved. So many of these leads, of

63
00:05:13.879 --> 00:05:15.240
course, turn out to be red
hearings. Of course, the more time

64
00:05:15.279 --> 00:05:19.279
that lapses, the more the weight
of expectation builds and the frustration. The

65
00:05:19.360 --> 00:05:24.480
toll that it takes on people on
the ground is quite evident. So it's

66
00:05:24.480 --> 00:05:30.040
a large dick saw puzzle with global
tentacles. So that's what November is all

67
00:05:30.079 --> 00:05:33.720
about, Jackie, let's start with
you. I found it really strong and

68
00:05:33.800 --> 00:05:43.839
compelling. You didn't. I found
it a bit police procedural alex, a

69
00:05:44.319 --> 00:05:49.680
bit of a more rounded story with
less of the frantic action chase scenes.

70
00:05:50.439 --> 00:05:56.639
We weren't given a chance to really
get to know who was who except for

71
00:05:57.680 --> 00:06:00.639
perhaps a very small handful of car
There's maybe two or three we've really got

72
00:06:00.680 --> 00:06:05.600
to know out of a very large
cast, and so we didn't really get

73
00:06:05.639 --> 00:06:13.279
to see the impact on them and
their lines. So I found it very

74
00:06:13.360 --> 00:06:17.439
much a police drama with with a
heck of a lot of shooting and a

75
00:06:17.480 --> 00:06:20.399
heck a lot of running and chasing. Yeah, but but hang on the

76
00:06:20.480 --> 00:06:26.519
few. That's not different to a
lot of movies where the concentration is on

77
00:06:26.759 --> 00:06:30.720
some key characters, and then there
there's those periph except that except that this

78
00:06:30.839 --> 00:06:35.160
is based on I mean a real
or more than based on it's it's almost

79
00:06:35.240 --> 00:06:41.399
a docu drama in some ways on
actual events. I accept that, but

80
00:06:41.800 --> 00:06:46.920
I mean this is the challenge that
any form of art has. What you're

81
00:06:46.920 --> 00:06:51.040
going to concentrate on twelve characters,
there just isn't the time. So they've

82
00:06:51.040 --> 00:06:56.040
sort of taken from that. Well, the four that I think I've mentioned,

83
00:06:56.120 --> 00:07:00.519
probably the pivotal characters. I actually
was not troubled by that at all

84
00:07:00.560 --> 00:07:03.680
because there there was some way given
to the sub characters, and I thought

85
00:07:03.720 --> 00:07:09.839
that were kind of nicely were you
did you find it too complicated? I

86
00:07:09.920 --> 00:07:13.800
didn't know what was going on for
a good part of it, and I

87
00:07:13.839 --> 00:07:15.680
think that was kind of deliberate.
I think that kind of gave the atmosphere

88
00:07:15.720 --> 00:07:19.600
of the confusion that they may have
you know, the country was facing at

89
00:07:19.600 --> 00:07:25.279
the time, although the police certainly
were shouldn't have been too confused in what

90
00:07:25.319 --> 00:07:29.279
they were following up. But yes, no, very confusing. But that

91
00:07:29.319 --> 00:07:31.839
was also to do with the character
development, because you didn't know who was

92
00:07:31.879 --> 00:07:35.920
doing what and what operative they belonged
to, and and you know what their

93
00:07:35.959 --> 00:07:40.480
position was. And there were a
couple of very odd things that came about.

94
00:07:40.519 --> 00:07:44.160
If if this was an amalgam of
the way that they went about the

95
00:07:45.199 --> 00:07:51.120
about the chase. There was one
place a detective who made a major error

96
00:07:51.240 --> 00:07:57.079
early on in the piece, and
yet was immediately placed back on without any

97
00:07:57.120 --> 00:08:05.720
apparent reprimand to continue leading or certainly
being in charge. Wait a second,

98
00:08:07.519 --> 00:08:11.199
that's the figure that I mentioned made
a mistake. This is a woman and

99
00:08:11.480 --> 00:08:16.079
she was dressed down and basically said
she's on her her last chance. That

100
00:08:16.240 --> 00:08:18.839
that was actually part one. She
was told off and put straight back into

101
00:08:18.879 --> 00:08:22.680
the into the work. But what
I did like about the film was the

102
00:08:24.240 --> 00:08:28.240
was that by about two thirds of
the way through the suspense by then you

103
00:08:28.279 --> 00:08:31.799
could tell was really quite um you
know, had built up, It had

104
00:08:31.879 --> 00:08:37.440
built up to a state of suspense, and that was worthwhile towards the end

105
00:08:37.679 --> 00:08:43.440
to get to that, because it
certainly was a dramatic finale if you like.

106
00:08:43.960 --> 00:08:46.919
Well, look, I felt quite
wrong out by the end of the

107
00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:50.080
movie, and I reckon that's exactly
what the filmmakers were seeking. Peter,

108
00:08:50.279 --> 00:08:54.320
I absolutely agree. Look, yes, it is a police procedural, but

109
00:08:54.399 --> 00:08:58.879
it's a very important one, and
the French are so good at making these

110
00:09:00.039 --> 00:09:03.440
types of films. I mean,
we've seen Night of the Twelfth as another

111
00:09:03.480 --> 00:09:09.919
example, but the whole issue of
those terrorist attacks in twenty fifteen have been

112
00:09:09.440 --> 00:09:15.240
observed in a few other French films
of late, and this is an important

113
00:09:15.279 --> 00:09:20.360
way to expiate I suppose that awful
experience. I think this was a very

114
00:09:20.399 --> 00:09:26.240
well handled film. I think the
dislocation and the difficulties in the investigation,

115
00:09:26.360 --> 00:09:33.320
the finding of suspects or attempts to
get behind the scenes to get contacts and

116
00:09:33.159 --> 00:09:37.200
whistleblowers and all that sort of thing, I think that was very effectively handled.

117
00:09:37.240 --> 00:09:43.360
And Jean Dujardin did a great job
as the main investigator there, and

118
00:09:43.720 --> 00:09:50.120
Jeremy Renier and Sandra Kimberlaine. It's
a very good cast. What I really

119
00:09:50.159 --> 00:09:54.799
liked about this film is the process
that had to be used to be able

120
00:09:54.840 --> 00:10:00.600
to find these terrorists, and it's
not an easy one, and so the

121
00:10:00.159 --> 00:10:05.320
the way the filmmakers handled that I
think was very effective. I think the

122
00:10:05.320 --> 00:10:11.360
the correlation with what was happening overseas, there were some sequence there where we

123
00:10:11.480 --> 00:10:20.279
understand that this was a rallying call
with Isis and so on to wreak vengeance

124
00:10:22.080 --> 00:10:26.679
if you like. But also I
think there is a lot more going on

125
00:10:26.840 --> 00:10:31.279
which I was actually quite impressed by. I must say one other thing,

126
00:10:31.879 --> 00:10:39.679
the women who involved in perhaps being
whistleblowers. Um. There was some issue

127
00:10:39.840 --> 00:10:46.360
about one of them wearing a hujib. Yes, and and it seems from

128
00:10:46.360 --> 00:10:52.799
what I read that that was incorrectly
depicted um, And so the filmmakers were

129
00:10:52.840 --> 00:10:56.159
sued about that. So really,
I think, do we know what?

130
00:10:56.200 --> 00:10:58.200
Do we know what happened the outcome? Yes? Yes, the the the

131
00:10:58.200 --> 00:11:09.720
woman one case that she was given
a money to make good or compensation if

132
00:11:09.720 --> 00:11:13.720
you like, for the incorrect depiction
of her character. Really, that's that's

133
00:11:13.039 --> 00:11:16.519
well, I thought. Look,
I thought it was a pivotal role.

134
00:11:16.720 --> 00:11:20.480
We're talking about Lena Kudry, who
plays this sort of good samaritan who you

135
00:11:20.519 --> 00:11:24.399
can't help it but empathize with.
And to me, I thought Jean de

136
00:11:24.519 --> 00:11:28.480
jar Dan, who's a very fine
actor, quite authoritative and compelling as the

137
00:11:28.519 --> 00:11:31.720
commander who sort of demands, well
he doesn't sort of, he does demand

138
00:11:31.960 --> 00:11:37.960
total commitment. And I thought Anna
Demustier, who worked on gut instinct and

139
00:11:37.440 --> 00:11:41.679
felt deeply that was a well I
thought it was a well developed character because

140
00:11:41.919 --> 00:11:46.000
you got an insight in the fact
that she really cares, but you know,

141
00:11:46.080 --> 00:11:52.600
she oversteps the mark. And also
there's really a fine attention to detail

142
00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:58.000
that the cinematographer Nicholas Law captures.
I thought the cinematography was a feature of

143
00:11:58.000 --> 00:12:01.960
this and the production failure is actually
a very strong throughout. But given the

144
00:12:01.039 --> 00:12:05.519
nature of the plot, and this
is where I said, you know,

145
00:12:05.799 --> 00:12:09.200
asked Jackie earlier, you know how
how confused he was. You really need

146
00:12:09.240 --> 00:12:13.519
to concentrate to follow all the threads
because there are lots of them, right,

147
00:12:13.919 --> 00:12:18.279
And that's I thought this was a
perfect depiction of you imagine an incident

148
00:12:18.840 --> 00:12:24.039
and you don't know where to start, and you're going after lead after lead

149
00:12:24.039 --> 00:12:28.320
after lead. I mean most most
police incidents, not most, but many

150
00:12:28.759 --> 00:12:33.120
that have complexity to them would be
exactly like this. And I felt I

151
00:12:33.159 --> 00:12:35.360
was involved from the get go,
and I was involved at all the very

152
00:12:35.440 --> 00:12:39.679
end, So it's interesting I had
a different take on it Jackie. So

153
00:12:41.000 --> 00:12:43.960
as I say, I mean,
I thought this was a very fine movie

154
00:12:43.279 --> 00:12:48.480
and it's one that is well worth
seeing. But you've got to go in

155
00:12:48.519 --> 00:12:52.159
there with the right mindset. Peter, wouldn't you agree with that? Yeah?

156
00:12:52.200 --> 00:12:56.679
I suppose so to some extent.
And certainly a film about a terrorist

157
00:12:56.759 --> 00:13:00.279
act is not an easy film to
watch. No, but Jackie would have

158
00:13:00.320 --> 00:13:03.840
seen other movies about terrorists. Oh
look, Alex, I was going to

159
00:13:03.879 --> 00:13:07.799
say, I don't mind concentrating heavily
on a movie. I don't feel the

160
00:13:07.919 --> 00:13:13.240
threads were actually there, even though
we were in the dark room feeling round

161
00:13:13.240 --> 00:13:16.679
for them. It was all a
trick and there weren't any threads that were

162
00:13:16.720 --> 00:13:20.159
given to us to follow on this. And I know this film is being

163
00:13:20.200 --> 00:13:26.399
compared with Zero Dark thirty, and
I can see a lot so many similarities

164
00:13:26.440 --> 00:13:30.679
between what you know, the way
that it was set up and what they're

165
00:13:30.720 --> 00:13:35.879
trying to achieve and even in the
outcome. And to me, just if

166
00:13:35.879 --> 00:13:39.720
you compare the two, zero Dark
thirty is just head and shoulders above what

167
00:13:39.759 --> 00:13:43.639
we received in the film. November
November. So look, it is rated.

168
00:13:43.799 --> 00:13:46.480
It runs for one hundred and seven
minutes. What are you going to

169
00:13:46.480 --> 00:13:50.559
give November out of ten? Six
out of ten? Mm? Okay,

170
00:13:50.600 --> 00:13:54.399
Peter, I'm sure you'll be much
higher. Go through it. Yes,

171
00:13:54.480 --> 00:13:58.519
I was quite impressed by the film, and I'm not quite sure the comparisons

172
00:13:58.519 --> 00:14:01.679
with Zero Dark thirty, but that
matter. I give it eight out of

173
00:14:01.720 --> 00:14:05.159
ten, and I give it an
eight out of ten as well. Jackie.

174
00:14:03.960 --> 00:14:11.639
We've appreciated your insight and we will
allow you to depart and attend to

175
00:14:11.679 --> 00:14:15.039
your other matters for the day,
and Peter and I will try and hold

176
00:14:15.039 --> 00:14:18.639
down the fort without you, which
is going to be difficult, but enjoy

177
00:14:18.720 --> 00:14:22.879
yourselves and I shall expect you with
you next week. Fantastic, thanks Jackie.

178
00:14:22.039 --> 00:14:26.480
So Peter, let's move on JAIR. By the way, I should

179
00:14:26.519 --> 00:14:31.080
mention great programming twenty four to seven, so we do expect you to sleep

180
00:14:31.080 --> 00:14:35.320
a little bit. But other than
that, tune into JR eighty eight FM.

181
00:14:35.399 --> 00:14:37.120
And look, we'd love to get
your money. Now. I don't

182
00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:41.840
mean that in a nasty way,
but we need subscribers. We are a

183
00:14:41.960 --> 00:14:46.240
radio station that is very much community
based and we rely upon support to keep

184
00:14:46.320 --> 00:14:52.720
us keep the wheels turning and the
people on the what is it the treadmill

185
00:14:52.799 --> 00:14:58.039
to keep keep running it. All
it takes is to go to jadashair dot

186
00:14:58.039 --> 00:15:05.639
com dot au and you follow the
various leads and you can subscribe for fifty

187
00:15:05.679 --> 00:15:09.399
four dollars a year. Fifty four
bucks a year gets you a subscription and

188
00:15:09.480 --> 00:15:13.120
you become a member of a JIR
and the JF family. So what could

189
00:15:13.159 --> 00:15:16.159
be easier than that, Peter,
Let's turn to another movie. Now,

190
00:15:16.159 --> 00:15:20.200
there's we'll talk about. The next
two are very much in the sort of

191
00:15:20.480 --> 00:15:24.279
romance stakes, and one is a
younger version and one's an older version.

192
00:15:26.519 --> 00:15:31.879
I want to talk about book Club
the Next Chapter first because it gets to

193
00:15:31.919 --> 00:15:35.600
the essence of something that really concerns
me, which I'd like to discuss with

194
00:15:35.639 --> 00:15:39.120
you. It's one hundred and eight
minutes. It's rated M. Book Club

195
00:15:39.120 --> 00:15:45.600
the Next Chapter, and it is
a feel good sequel to the twenty eighteen

196
00:15:45.679 --> 00:15:50.480
movie simply called book Club, and
it concerns the ongoing fate of the four

197
00:15:50.519 --> 00:15:56.840
women at the center of the original
as they undertake a special girls trip.

198
00:15:56.240 --> 00:16:02.600
So you've got Vivian played by Jane
Fonder prepare actually single, just been asked

199
00:16:02.600 --> 00:16:07.200
for her hand in marriage by her
long term suave boyfriend Arthur played by Don

200
00:16:07.279 --> 00:16:14.679
Johnson, but before the nuptials,
Carroll Mary steen Bergen puts it to the

201
00:16:14.759 --> 00:16:18.120
others. The other three girlfriends that
they should make good on a promise they

202
00:16:18.159 --> 00:16:22.759
made. I think it was decades
earlier to travel to Italy. Mind you.

203
00:16:22.480 --> 00:16:27.039
Carroll is worried about her husband,
Bruce Craig t Nelson, who has

204
00:16:27.080 --> 00:16:34.159
just had bypass surgery. Former judge
Sharon Candice Bergen is not too keen on

205
00:16:34.200 --> 00:16:38.840
taking the trip because she has an
aging cat to care for, but soon

206
00:16:38.919 --> 00:16:45.000
enough that becomes a non issue.
And for Diane played by Diane Keaton,

207
00:16:45.279 --> 00:16:49.519
who is in a loving relationship with
Mitchell Andy Garcia, she still has not

208
00:16:49.679 --> 00:16:59.039
disposed of her dead husband's ashes.
Then they take this bachelorette holiday right bachelorett

209
00:16:59.080 --> 00:17:03.079
because Vian's getting and they have a
series of adventures and misadventures. So they

210
00:17:03.160 --> 00:17:11.039
encounter an Italian policeman, a smooth
talking retired professor, and a chef who

211
00:17:11.119 --> 00:17:17.160
happens to have been Carol's old flame. So like the first chapter book Club

212
00:17:17.160 --> 00:17:19.079
two, shall I call it?
The next chapter is written by Bill Holdeman

213
00:17:19.200 --> 00:17:25.680
and Erin Simms, and Bill Holdeman
directs, so that just replicates what happened

214
00:17:25.759 --> 00:17:33.559
five years ago. It starts out
with promise. There are some interactions between

215
00:17:33.559 --> 00:17:37.680
the women while they're on zoom during
COVID lockdown, as all of us were

216
00:17:38.279 --> 00:17:41.759
zoom teams. Call it what you
will, but I thought some of those

217
00:17:41.799 --> 00:17:45.079
would genuinely laugh aloud funny, and
I thought, golly, this is sort

218
00:17:45.119 --> 00:17:51.759
of hitting in the right direction.
And then very quickly the picture hits a

219
00:17:52.200 --> 00:17:56.799
roadblock. They waste a lot of
time getting These are the women, amongst

220
00:17:56.839 --> 00:18:00.359
themselves, getting to agree to the
holiday that we've talked about, right,

221
00:18:00.559 --> 00:18:03.279
which was always going to happen from
the moment it was mentioned, So just

222
00:18:03.359 --> 00:18:07.079
get to it. You don't need
that preamble. That was just sort of

223
00:18:07.319 --> 00:18:11.519
wasted space as far as I'm concerned. Thereafter, for much of the remaining

224
00:18:11.599 --> 00:18:15.559
film, virtually everything was signposted,
So I mean, I'm not going to

225
00:18:15.759 --> 00:18:19.440
go through all of it, Peter, but stolen luggage, tick, romantic

226
00:18:19.519 --> 00:18:26.720
encounters, tick, stunning landscapes and
landmarks, and yeah they really are stunning,

227
00:18:26.720 --> 00:18:29.720
no question about it, But tick, and so on it goes.

228
00:18:30.000 --> 00:18:36.640
So the whole thing is manufactured and
predictable. Where are the unexpected plot twists,

229
00:18:36.680 --> 00:18:42.279
the genuine surprises. Sure, the
narrative comes from well what I'll call

230
00:18:42.319 --> 00:18:48.200
the never ending bank of sanguine material, but it does seem to me,

231
00:18:48.240 --> 00:18:51.200
and this is the point that I
was making at the outset, it's such

232
00:18:51.200 --> 00:18:55.839
a waste of top notch talent.
These are some of the finest actors of

233
00:18:56.119 --> 00:19:03.039
a generation, and they often deliver
well a succession of corny and at times

234
00:19:03.079 --> 00:19:08.079
sexually charged one liners. It almost
appears to me as if, aside from

235
00:19:08.079 --> 00:19:12.319
a car dre of British actors and
we can name them, women get to

236
00:19:12.440 --> 00:19:17.559
sixty, seventy and beyond and the
industry all but abandons them. They're left

237
00:19:17.559 --> 00:19:21.079
to deal with scripts that are going
to be more at home in a b

238
00:19:21.160 --> 00:19:23.880
Gray Telly movie. Why. I
mean, surely there's an audience for intelligent,

239
00:19:25.160 --> 00:19:30.839
engaging, entertaining, thought provoking cinema
involving our third generation of females.

240
00:19:30.319 --> 00:19:34.440
And no, that does not rule
out comedy or romance. I get that

241
00:19:34.480 --> 00:19:38.640
this is firmly in chick flick territory, and I've got to say that often

242
00:19:38.720 --> 00:19:44.680
warm to that. But the problem
is when humor falls flat, as it

243
00:19:44.720 --> 00:19:48.559
often does, what results is little
more than cringe worthy. And there are

244
00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:52.880
certainly those moments. Unfortunately in book
Club the next chapter. Look, I've

245
00:19:52.880 --> 00:19:57.799
got to say, and to be
fair, I feared that before seeing this

246
00:19:57.799 --> 00:20:03.559
film, So I suppose you could
say I wasn't disappointed. It is a

247
00:20:03.640 --> 00:20:07.319
very nice looking film with very little
substance. Some people are going to appreciate

248
00:20:07.359 --> 00:20:11.039
it. But yeah, are we
not better than this? I mean there's

249
00:20:11.039 --> 00:20:15.119
another one, what eighty for Brady
or whatever out at the moment as well.

250
00:20:15.200 --> 00:20:18.039
So yeah, yeah, Peter,
I'm curious as to whether you agree

251
00:20:18.039 --> 00:20:22.799
with me or not. I do
tend to agree with you. But but

252
00:20:22.000 --> 00:20:27.119
this film, like eighty for Brady
and a number of other films that feature

253
00:20:27.079 --> 00:20:30.880
a group of women who go on
a journey of self discovery, go on

254
00:20:32.279 --> 00:20:37.519
exotic trips or whatever to find out
more about themselves or their romances or whatever,

255
00:20:37.119 --> 00:20:42.960
is a fairly strong subgenre staple in
filmmaking, and there is already made

256
00:20:42.960 --> 00:20:48.119
built in audience for this type of
film. Look, I have to say,

257
00:20:48.119 --> 00:20:51.200
in this one, they seem to
have jettisoned the whole idea of the

258
00:20:51.200 --> 00:20:55.799
book club in the first place,
apart from a few very quick references to

259
00:20:55.799 --> 00:21:00.400
books. But it's really dismissive.
And there is one one reference at coming

260
00:21:00.400 --> 00:21:03.400
back, and I've gone blank on
the name of the book. But yeah,

261
00:21:03.519 --> 00:21:07.000
I mean it's almost like almost it's
an excuse, isn't it though,

262
00:21:07.200 --> 00:21:10.200
That's why they got together in the
first place. They couldn't just call it

263
00:21:10.240 --> 00:21:12.160
the next chapter without the word book
club. Yeah yeah, was it the

264
00:21:12.200 --> 00:21:15.559
Alchemist? I think, yeah,
yes, yeah, yeah, that's it.

265
00:21:15.680 --> 00:21:19.480
Yeah, but I thought that was
that was somewhat contrived in terms of

266
00:21:19.519 --> 00:21:25.519
life journey. But nevertheless, look, yes, the circumstances that the women

267
00:21:25.559 --> 00:21:29.279
find themselves, and they're very middle
class and very well off, so they

268
00:21:29.279 --> 00:21:34.640
can handle losing their luggage and all
that without any issues. I found it

269
00:21:36.119 --> 00:21:41.920
fairly superficial and really as vehicles for
all of them to be given some amusing

270
00:21:42.000 --> 00:21:48.039
lines here and there, but really, in terms of character development, it

271
00:21:48.200 --> 00:21:52.720
is fairly lackluster. Yeah, and
that's the point that I'm making. It

272
00:21:52.759 --> 00:21:56.599
doesn't need to be if if we
had a better script, you can't.

273
00:21:56.640 --> 00:22:00.160
It doesn't matter what age a person
is. I get to the essence of

274
00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:06.160
a good movie. It's got to
be well written. And why do we

275
00:22:06.359 --> 00:22:11.599
constantly get the predictable that that's that's
not that's not. It lacks originality,

276
00:22:11.799 --> 00:22:17.400
it lacks some spark. Yeah,
I agree, but why don't we get

277
00:22:17.440 --> 00:22:22.799
more originality? It's called box office, and it's called studios wanting to make

278
00:22:22.880 --> 00:22:27.319
money, and this type of film
is a very safe option, knowing that

279
00:22:27.759 --> 00:22:33.119
the actresses, who are all terrific, will appeal to a large group of

280
00:22:33.160 --> 00:22:37.119
people and they'll want to go and
see them in the cinema, as happened

281
00:22:37.200 --> 00:22:44.440
with Ady Fibrady and other similar films. I think also mixing in this travelog

282
00:22:44.680 --> 00:22:51.079
sort of issue, going to exotic
places like Venice and Rome and Tuscany and

283
00:22:51.119 --> 00:22:55.279
so on. It is such a
familiar trope Under the Tuscan Sun and so

284
00:22:55.359 --> 00:23:00.279
many other films that have dealt with
this sort of area. It's just what's

285
00:23:00.279 --> 00:23:07.759
called a comfortable journey of self discovery
without any major revelations or any real I

286
00:23:07.920 --> 00:23:11.440
don't have much for Peter. I
don't know what this would have cost to

287
00:23:11.480 --> 00:23:15.799
make, because I mean, okay, even if we're not talking about top

288
00:23:15.839 --> 00:23:19.200
dollars for these actors anymore, it
would it wouldn't have come cheap given you

289
00:23:19.200 --> 00:23:25.079
know, we've talked about the talent, like there's six very very well known

290
00:23:25.160 --> 00:23:30.039
names in this, so you know, obviously the studio said, well,

291
00:23:30.160 --> 00:23:33.599
let's if it wasn't these people,
would this have been out in the cinemas

292
00:23:33.759 --> 00:23:38.079
if it was no names. No, I don't believe it would have well,

293
00:23:38.119 --> 00:23:41.799
not not in the same sort of
format, because if you're dealing with

294
00:23:42.079 --> 00:23:47.839
a more existential drama sort of situation, it would be quite a different script.

295
00:23:47.920 --> 00:23:52.799
But even I'm just talking about exactly
this script with no names, this

296
00:23:52.880 --> 00:23:56.839
would have been a straight to TV
release. It wouldn't. It wouldn't have

297
00:23:56.880 --> 00:24:02.559
made the cinemas. Possibly, But
if we look at spanning German Italian films

298
00:24:02.599 --> 00:24:08.119
that all have similar sort of tropes
in the films that they make and don't

299
00:24:08.160 --> 00:24:14.440
necessarily have well known actors, audiences
still want to see it. And you

300
00:24:14.559 --> 00:24:18.200
have to say that there is a
large female audience out there that want to

301
00:24:18.279 --> 00:24:23.599
see this type of film, especially
with names good actors and world named actors.

302
00:24:23.640 --> 00:24:26.960
So look, there is an audience
for it. But if you're looking

303
00:24:27.000 --> 00:24:30.400
for something a bit with a bit
more depth than obviously this is not the

304
00:24:30.440 --> 00:24:34.640
film for you. It was also
interesting to see the depiction of some of

305
00:24:34.680 --> 00:24:41.559
the Italians, including gen Carlo Giannini. Interesting to see him, who's been

306
00:24:41.599 --> 00:24:48.799
around for so long in cinema doing
a sort of a throwaway comedic police officer

307
00:24:48.920 --> 00:24:52.400
role, which I thought I was
a little bit demeaning I thought, I

308
00:24:52.400 --> 00:24:56.279
don't know, and how easy was
it for them to get a police helicopter?

309
00:24:56.039 --> 00:25:00.279
Well that was a very good point. I mean, basically, snap

310
00:25:00.279 --> 00:25:03.240
your fingers. He's the bloke in
charge. I'll bend the rules. I'll

311
00:25:03.279 --> 00:25:06.880
do exactly what you want. I'll
roll over and play dead. Yeah,

312
00:25:06.920 --> 00:25:08.960
I mean, this is what I'm
saying. This is pure fantasy, that's

313
00:25:10.000 --> 00:25:11.519
what it is. Now. Okay, I get that people like to escape,

314
00:25:11.720 --> 00:25:18.000
and this is escapist. It's escapist
with a capital E, no question.

315
00:25:18.359 --> 00:25:19.079
So, okay, what are you
going to give it? Out of

316
00:25:19.119 --> 00:25:22.240
ten? Book Club? The next
chapter m rated one hundred and eight minutes.

317
00:25:22.640 --> 00:25:26.799
Okay, and I must also endorse
what you said at the start where

318
00:25:26.839 --> 00:25:30.799
they did the lockdown zoom sort of
stuff. I thought that was going to

319
00:25:30.839 --> 00:25:36.119
turn into something quite funny, funny
and clever, but yeah, unfortunately you

320
00:25:36.119 --> 00:25:41.839
didn't go there. Look, because
of the actors in it and the way

321
00:25:41.880 --> 00:25:45.400
it was filmed, even if the
script was a bit so, so I

322
00:25:45.440 --> 00:25:48.960
barely give it a pass. So
I'll give it five out of ten.

323
00:25:48.359 --> 00:25:52.039
Yeah, and I'm giving it five
and a half. So good golly,

324
00:25:52.119 --> 00:25:56.000
we're in furious agreement today so far. That is rather scary it is.

325
00:25:56.960 --> 00:26:02.000
You're listening to j and at the
you're listening to Peter Krause and Alex First,

326
00:26:02.200 --> 00:26:08.920
so we should move to a younger
generation with some similar proclivities. And

327
00:26:10.119 --> 00:26:15.160
we're talking love again, Emma rate
again. And it's one hundred and four

328
00:26:15.200 --> 00:26:18.519
minutes. So you've got a children's
book author by the name of Mirror Ray

329
00:26:18.680 --> 00:26:25.480
played by a very beautiful and talented
actor who is noted on the world stage.

330
00:26:25.519 --> 00:26:32.119
Her name is pre Yanka Chopra Jonas
and Mirror Ray, whom she plays,

331
00:26:32.279 --> 00:26:37.920
is deeply in love with John played
by Rins Kenney, and he is

332
00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:44.960
unfortunately tragically killed in broad daylight by
a drunk driver, and understandably she goes

333
00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:49.359
into a deep funk. She seeks
solitude by moving in with her folks.

334
00:26:51.319 --> 00:26:56.680
A couple of years on, after
umpteen overtures, her sister Susie played by

335
00:26:56.960 --> 00:27:02.160
Sophia Barclay, manages to convince Mirror
to head back to the city so the

336
00:27:02.200 --> 00:27:04.480
pair can live together. I'm not
sure they were living together before. I'm

337
00:27:04.480 --> 00:27:08.759
not sure that was really established,
Peter, but anyway, John's untimely death

338
00:27:08.839 --> 00:27:17.359
continues to haunt Mirror as she has
an awkward dating encounter with Joel. Now

339
00:27:17.400 --> 00:27:21.359
what's fun about that is that Joel
is played by Nick Jonas, who is

340
00:27:21.960 --> 00:27:29.119
Prianka Chopra Jonas's real life husband,
And there's a particular I won't destroy it

341
00:27:29.119 --> 00:27:33.559
for anybody, but there's a scene
where he goes over the top and that's

342
00:27:33.599 --> 00:27:36.039
the end of it all. So
that was nice. That was a nice

343
00:27:36.039 --> 00:27:40.559
little touch anyway. Thirty five year
old Rob Burns played by Sam Hwan,

344
00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:44.119
is a music critic for the New
York Chronicle. Obviously it's a made up

345
00:27:44.160 --> 00:27:49.359
newspaper. He was shocked when his
fiance dumped him without explanation a week before

346
00:27:49.359 --> 00:27:55.640
they would do to walk down the
aisle against his better judgment. His boss

347
00:27:55.680 --> 00:28:00.440
at the newspaper, Richard Hughes played
by Steve Oream, tasks him with writing

348
00:28:00.480 --> 00:28:07.039
a feature piece about Selene Dion,
and well, Dion plays herself, but

349
00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:11.759
she plays a sort of comedic version
of herself, but a very bossy comedic

350
00:28:11.839 --> 00:28:18.240
version of herself, and basically she
ends up giving this Richard who hughes.

351
00:28:18.680 --> 00:28:23.519
Not Richard Hughes. The Rob Burns
character. The star of the show Sam

352
00:28:23.599 --> 00:28:29.599
Hwan life and relationship advice, So
bear in mind Rob Burns has been dumped.

353
00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:33.880
He goes to a news conference that
Dion is at. Dion doesn't appreciate

354
00:28:33.920 --> 00:28:38.720
his distractions and attitude and starts giving
him life lessons. So Burns and his

355
00:28:38.799 --> 00:28:44.160
colleagues are being given work mobile phones, when out of the blue, he

356
00:28:44.240 --> 00:28:49.160
starts receiving heartfelt text messages, and
unbeknown to him, they are from and

357
00:28:49.240 --> 00:28:56.000
we get round circle here from Mirror
Ray, who is texting her dead boyfriend

358
00:28:56.519 --> 00:29:02.440
as a matter of Catharsis. Of
course, Mirror has no idea that John's

359
00:29:02.440 --> 00:29:06.920
former telephone number has been reassigned,
which obviously does happen if if you no

360
00:29:06.920 --> 00:29:10.039
longer want a number, or you
no longer have any need for a number.

361
00:29:10.839 --> 00:29:15.119
Burns is deeply moved by the messages
that he's receiving, and he sets

362
00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:19.119
out to meet the person who sent
them. When he does, when he

363
00:29:19.119 --> 00:29:25.759
does meet Mirror, that their connection
is immediate. But he withholds the backstory,

364
00:29:25.839 --> 00:29:30.720
which chatters Mirrors trust. So there
we have the bare bones of the

365
00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:34.480
structure. Now it's a fantasy,
what I'd call a fantasy dramedy again,

366
00:29:34.599 --> 00:29:40.680
Peter, where everything is carefully manufactured
to get to the outcome that we all

367
00:29:40.680 --> 00:29:44.359
know is coming, and that of
course involves inevitable bumps along the road.

368
00:29:44.359 --> 00:29:48.880
Otherwise you would have a movie.
And I can say it's naturally the journey

369
00:29:48.920 --> 00:29:52.480
that counts at least from the perspective
of the viewer. It's based on a

370
00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:56.160
novel. I think it's a German
novel Text for You by Sophi Kramer.

371
00:29:56.319 --> 00:30:00.119
Is that great Peter? Yes?
Yeah. So. It's been written and

372
00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:04.559
directed by Jim Strauss, who was
also responsible for the movie The Incredible Jessica

373
00:30:04.680 --> 00:30:10.880
James. Look, there is some
respect and charm about the way the story

374
00:30:10.920 --> 00:30:15.720
plays out. I appreciated the quirkiness
of the characterization of the two sisters,

375
00:30:15.279 --> 00:30:18.880
as well as the moral compass I
can call it that. I think that

376
00:30:19.000 --> 00:30:27.359
drives mirrors actions. Priancha Chopper Jonas
and Sophia Barclay have quite intoxicating, playful

377
00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:32.240
qualities that they bring to the four. I thought they played their roles very

378
00:30:32.319 --> 00:30:36.640
very well. Rob Burns has been
written with this awkward, nice guy image

379
00:30:36.640 --> 00:30:40.880
in mind, which sam Huan capitalizes
upon. I must admit I thought,

380
00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:45.200
especially scenes with him and early on, there was some of the pauses seemed

381
00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:49.039
a bit too long. I just
think it needed a bit of tightening Lydia

382
00:30:49.079 --> 00:30:52.799
West. I thought she did a
really good job. She plays Burns dismissive

383
00:30:52.880 --> 00:30:57.319
younger workmate Lisa Scott, and that's
quite a nice role as well. So

384
00:30:57.440 --> 00:31:03.240
let's get onto Celine. This is
her big screen debut, and I said

385
00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:06.960
this to you earlier that she has
a lot of fun making the most of

386
00:31:06.960 --> 00:31:11.559
her diva reputation. She sort of
plays that up and there are lots of

387
00:31:11.640 --> 00:31:15.519
that. I think there's about five
different songs new songs from Celine Dion as

388
00:31:15.559 --> 00:31:19.400
well, so it's quite a strong
score. So it's a film. This

389
00:31:19.519 --> 00:31:23.680
is a score overall, not just
Dion songs, and it's a film really

390
00:31:23.680 --> 00:31:29.440
for romantics who are prepared to invest
in make believe. So you can see

391
00:31:29.480 --> 00:31:33.960
why I'm drawing a parallel between this
and the movie you spoke about book Club

392
00:31:33.160 --> 00:31:37.759
the next chapter. But this is
obviously aimed at a younger audience. And

393
00:31:38.440 --> 00:31:45.079
yeah, I mean it's incredibly manufactured, though, Peter, isn't it It

394
00:31:45.319 --> 00:31:49.799
is? In fact, I found
this film to be an incredibly cynical exercise,

395
00:31:51.240 --> 00:31:56.079
and I'll explain what I mean by
that. First of all, as

396
00:31:56.079 --> 00:32:00.440
you say, it's based on a
novel which was filmed in Germany in twenty

397
00:32:00.519 --> 00:32:07.839
sixteen called SMS Fiar Dish or SMS
for You by Carolina Halfoot, and that

398
00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:14.319
was a good, strong drama about
loss, about grieving and about finding love

399
00:32:14.359 --> 00:32:17.079
again. It certainly was not a
comedy, and in fact, I don't

400
00:32:17.079 --> 00:32:21.920
even think that Love Again as a
comedy. So first of all, the

401
00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:27.240
original German film was far superior because
it didn't have that sort of cynical tone

402
00:32:27.759 --> 00:32:31.839
of trying to invest some comedy in
it. Secondly that I know the filmmakers

403
00:32:31.880 --> 00:32:39.160
were desperately trying to find a film
for Prianka Chopra because she is a very

404
00:32:39.200 --> 00:32:45.200
well known Indian actress and now she's
working in Hollywood and they're trying to find

405
00:32:45.319 --> 00:32:50.839
a good vehicle for her. And
of course I found it very cynical actually

406
00:32:51.079 --> 00:32:57.480
to cast her husband, Nick Jonas
as a small role in the film.

407
00:32:57.759 --> 00:33:00.000
Why did you find that cynical?
I thought, you know, that added

408
00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:05.279
a sense of realism, but also, you know, I kind of like

409
00:33:05.400 --> 00:33:08.480
the fact that this is a guy
who oversteps the mark. I didn't have

410
00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:13.359
a problem with that. What what
troubled you? Because I found it a

411
00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:17.160
nod to show business and as a
way of saying, well, here here

412
00:33:17.240 --> 00:33:22.079
is Prianncha with her husband, who
is well known in the film industry.

413
00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:27.759
Let's put them together and that will
give the audience something else to appreciate.

414
00:33:27.880 --> 00:33:30.759
I think, very cynical, Ronnie. I'll take a different approach. I

415
00:33:30.759 --> 00:33:35.039
think people who are going to see
this movie, you're going to thoroughly enjoy

416
00:33:35.079 --> 00:33:37.079
it. There was there was a
when when I'm not sure whether you saw

417
00:33:37.079 --> 00:33:43.720
it on the opening media night or
not, but there was an appreciable recognition

418
00:33:44.240 --> 00:33:47.960
and a sort of sharp intake of
breath kind of thing that on that occasion,

419
00:33:49.000 --> 00:33:51.440
and I thought that worked very well. So okay, we've got a

420
00:33:51.440 --> 00:33:53.240
different view of that, but keep
going, please, yeah, yeah,

421
00:33:53.319 --> 00:33:58.519
okay. And thirdly, the other
cynical part of the film is the use

422
00:33:58.559 --> 00:34:01.559
of Celine Dion. I know that
they try to convince her to be in

423
00:34:01.559 --> 00:34:05.720
the film for quite a long time, and eventually she blent as well.

424
00:34:05.799 --> 00:34:09.119
Isn't she producing this one too?
Is she not? She's involved in it

425
00:34:09.199 --> 00:34:14.679
now. But of course, again
here's the cynical exercise. It's a showcase

426
00:34:14.840 --> 00:34:20.159
for her performances, for her concert
tour, for her songs, and that's

427
00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:23.880
the main reason she was included again, it's for box office potential and to

428
00:34:24.039 --> 00:34:30.480
make this film as commercially viable as
possible. And yet when you when you

429
00:34:30.519 --> 00:34:35.719
start to investigate the screenplay, which
I compared with the original German, I

430
00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:40.800
found it lacking in so much that
it just seemed so contrived, dramatic rather

431
00:34:40.880 --> 00:34:45.960
than amusing. Even though it's billed
as a romantic comedy, I didn't find

432
00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:51.639
it a comedy at all. And
I just found the story development was just

433
00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:57.320
totally out of bounds with the way
the story could have gone in terms of

434
00:34:57.360 --> 00:35:00.079
that loss, that grief that the
German original. Yeah, I was going

435
00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:04.760
to say, I didn't see the
German original, so I can only judge

436
00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:07.039
this based on what I've seen here. I mean, I think it will

437
00:35:07.119 --> 00:35:10.840
garner an audience. I'm not sure
how large an audience it will garner,

438
00:35:12.039 --> 00:35:15.000
and I think there'll be some brickbats
as well as some sort of joy out

439
00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:20.039
of it. But I look,
I didn't think it was It could have

440
00:35:20.119 --> 00:35:24.320
been worse. It's probably it's a
strange way of saying it. There were

441
00:35:24.440 --> 00:35:29.760
certainly a lot of cringe worthy moments
there, which they were in Book Club

442
00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:32.880
as well, but there was something
quite pleasant about it. As well,

443
00:35:34.079 --> 00:35:37.079
even though you know, how does
one get over grief? And they obviously

444
00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:44.079
decided to play it the way they
did, so the grief was an important

445
00:35:44.119 --> 00:35:46.519
thread that ran through it, But
how do you move on from that?

446
00:35:46.280 --> 00:35:51.719
That was the principle that they seemed
to follow in this American version of it.

447
00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:54.679
You're based on what you're just saying
to me, You're not even going

448
00:35:54.719 --> 00:35:59.960
to pass this one if I ask
you to score out of ten now.

449
00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:05.280
And I wanted to also mention the
dreadful use of supporting characters. Russell Tovey

450
00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:12.239
as Sam Human's best gay best friend
was just treated really dismissively, as was

451
00:36:12.320 --> 00:36:16.599
Celia Imrie, such a good actress
given a small but you know, throw

452
00:36:16.639 --> 00:36:21.320
away sort of role. I know, I know this. I agree with

453
00:36:21.400 --> 00:36:23.880
the gay work, colleague. And
by the way, these are journalists who

454
00:36:23.960 --> 00:36:29.679
never work that. I did notice
that as well. But yes, what

455
00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:32.280
what what role in Celia Emray play? I'm afraid I can't even remember.

456
00:36:32.880 --> 00:36:37.840
I'm trying to remember too, because
it was so unclear and so poorly.

457
00:36:37.159 --> 00:36:39.400
Yes, no, I do remember, No, No, I do remember.

458
00:36:40.119 --> 00:36:45.039
She was the publisher. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, okay, I

459
00:36:45.119 --> 00:36:46.679
mean she had a small yeah,
she's she's a very fine actor. I

460
00:36:46.719 --> 00:36:52.320
agree that she didn't have a lot
to do. But okay, so beyond

461
00:36:52.519 --> 00:36:55.719
that, can you see anybody going
to see this film and paying for it?

462
00:36:57.800 --> 00:37:00.320
Look, I think it will have
some commercial success. Again, it's

463
00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:06.599
a romantic drama. People will go
and see it for the cast and yeah,

464
00:37:06.719 --> 00:37:09.440
look, I think people will go. But that doesn't mean that it's

465
00:37:09.480 --> 00:37:14.960
worthy of getting an audience. So
give it given that, I mean,

466
00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:17.000
because I'm going to give this a
six, So I'll start there. I'm

467
00:37:17.079 --> 00:37:21.159
bear in mind that I go book
Club five and a half or book Club

468
00:37:21.159 --> 00:37:24.159
the next chapter. So I'm giving
this one a six. I enjoyed this

469
00:37:24.199 --> 00:37:29.000
a little bit more, even though
there were elements that didn't kind of congeal?

470
00:37:29.079 --> 00:37:30.159
Did you do you agree with me
by the way that there were?

471
00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:37.599
Sometimes the editing could have been tighter. Possibly, I think the writing should

472
00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:40.039
have been better. That's where that's
where I'm coming from. Look, I

473
00:37:40.119 --> 00:37:44.440
gave for a book a book Club
five out of ten because at least it

474
00:37:44.519 --> 00:37:47.280
was reasonably possible. In terms of
some of the writing, I can only

475
00:37:47.320 --> 00:37:52.440
give Love Again four out of ten. Wow. Okay, so there you

476
00:37:52.440 --> 00:37:54.519
go, folks. I mean,
I think, given what we've said,

477
00:37:54.559 --> 00:37:59.960
November is definitely the film to see
out of those three. Totally different subject

478
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:04.000
matter, of course, But look, let's let's move on to something that

479
00:38:04.079 --> 00:38:08.400
I saw, which I think you
may have seen. The movie. This

480
00:38:08.519 --> 00:38:13.920
is a now a musical but it's
really really good. It's called Once,

481
00:38:14.519 --> 00:38:17.800
and it's being put on in Melbourne
by darling Hurst Theater Company, Sydney based,

482
00:38:19.320 --> 00:38:22.000
and it's on the Comedy Theater as
we speak. And I thought it

483
00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:27.920
was a really brilliant slice of musical
theater, quite an inspirational piece. It's

484
00:38:27.920 --> 00:38:32.199
sort of ear and eye pleasing.
It balances heart and humor. Now do

485
00:38:32.239 --> 00:38:37.800
you remember the two thousand and seven
movie by John Carney Once, Yes,

486
00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:40.239
I do. I remember. It
was an encounter between a busco and a

487
00:38:40.360 --> 00:38:49.320
music musician and how they get together
and write, write a song and write

488
00:38:49.760 --> 00:38:53.239
and also have this romantic encounter.
I thought Once it was actually a pretty

489
00:38:53.239 --> 00:38:55.880
good film. It was a very
good film. I do remember that.

490
00:38:55.960 --> 00:39:01.000
And it's a really really good musical. I mean, superb concerns. It

491
00:39:01.320 --> 00:39:07.119
struggling Irish muso who's on the verge
of giving up, and an effervescent check

492
00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:13.199
woman. So you've got the latter
the check woman. They're basically called girl

493
00:39:13.280 --> 00:39:15.480
and guys, so that makes it
kind of easy. But the girl is

494
00:39:15.480 --> 00:39:20.960
played by Stephanie Kakarmo. She sees
the guy, Toby Francis, with a

495
00:39:21.039 --> 00:39:24.039
guitar in his hand, singing what
he intends to be his last song,

496
00:39:25.039 --> 00:39:30.440
and she praises him for it because
he's done a very good job. Now

497
00:39:30.480 --> 00:39:35.079
he works with his father as a
vacuum cleaner repairman. He is known as

498
00:39:35.079 --> 00:39:39.519
the hoover guy, right, so
he's taken aback at the boldness that the

499
00:39:39.559 --> 00:39:44.400
girl has. She's got this sort
of take, won't take no for an

500
00:39:44.400 --> 00:39:51.360
answer attitude, and it's a beautiful
portrayal, a brilliant portrayal actually by Stephanie

501
00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:55.760
Cacamo. He wrote the song that
he was performing for a woman that he

502
00:39:55.800 --> 00:40:01.559
loves, and that woman is played
by Ruby Clark. But the woman left

503
00:40:01.639 --> 00:40:07.920
him six months ago to pursue a
life in New York. And now this

504
00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:13.159
Czeck girl, who happens to work
in a struggling music shop, encourages the

505
00:40:13.239 --> 00:40:16.480
guy to press on with his original
music so not to give it up,

506
00:40:16.599 --> 00:40:21.480
not to because he was basically ready
to leave. The guitar in the bar

507
00:40:21.719 --> 00:40:24.280
and just walk away, and over
the space of a week, the peer

508
00:40:24.320 --> 00:40:29.639
forms are really strong and meaningful relationship. Both are clearly into each other,

509
00:40:30.559 --> 00:40:35.360
but the girl, who is a
fine piano player is dealing with her own

510
00:40:35.400 --> 00:40:38.039
issues. So the books by Ender
Walsh, the music and lyrics by Glenn

511
00:40:38.079 --> 00:40:45.000
Hansard and Marquita Iglova. And I've
got to say that I don't know whether

512
00:40:45.039 --> 00:40:49.159
you know this, Peter, but
Once holds quite a well. It does

513
00:40:49.199 --> 00:40:53.119
a unique place in musical history.
And I say that because it's the only

514
00:40:53.280 --> 00:41:00.039
Broadway show with music that has won
an Oscar, a Grammy, an Olivier

515
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:04.000
Award, and a Tony Award.
And by the way, it received eight

516
00:41:04.119 --> 00:41:07.119
Toni's, including Best Musical and Best
Book of a Musical. So that,

517
00:41:07.320 --> 00:41:10.199
I mean, what wouldn't that be
nice to sort of carry around with you

518
00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:15.199
the only Broadway show that's won all
of these grand awards. It's said on

519
00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:21.159
the streets of Dublin. It is
a very tender love story infused with charm

520
00:41:21.199 --> 00:41:24.199
and character. Now it's funny.
We've just been talking about comedy and we've

521
00:41:24.199 --> 00:41:30.320
been talking about romance and this story
and you might remember this from the movie

522
00:41:30.320 --> 00:41:37.639
Peter doesn't follow a conventional path in
that regard, it's not sort of the

523
00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:42.960
outcome may not be what you anticipate. True, yeah, yeah, I

524
00:41:42.960 --> 00:41:45.400
do remember there was a twist in
the story. Yes, yeah, and

525
00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:50.000
again. So it's about the writing, and it is beautifully written and directed.

526
00:41:50.039 --> 00:41:53.159
It's splendid. I couldn't be more
foolsome in my praise. And it's

527
00:41:53.199 --> 00:41:59.559
led from the front by an emotionally
mature and musically polished Stephanie Kacamo. The

528
00:41:59.599 --> 00:42:04.039
perform moments are wonderful, they really
are. You've got Kacarmo with a silky

529
00:42:04.079 --> 00:42:09.119
smooth voice. She comes across as
a really huge natural talent and has an

530
00:42:09.199 --> 00:42:15.840
inatability to deliver comedic singers without pretense, and that really is an artful And

531
00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:20.480
Toby Francis, he excels as a
man whose head is turned, who's shaken

532
00:42:20.559 --> 00:42:24.400
up by the appearance of his unexpected
savior, as we can call Kacarmo's character,

533
00:42:25.079 --> 00:42:29.920
and we watch on with delight as
he transitions. This is Toby Francis,

534
00:42:29.960 --> 00:42:34.400
his character, complete with an impressive
vocal range, into one of self

535
00:42:34.400 --> 00:42:38.320
belief. And you've also got a
number of other characters that are worth mentioning.

536
00:42:38.920 --> 00:42:45.039
Rupert Reid plays up the protective jocularity
associated with the passionate music shop owner

537
00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:50.960
Billy and of course that's the music
shop where Kakarmo's character works. And Anthony

538
00:42:51.000 --> 00:42:54.840
Craig, while he has many moments
to savor as a bank manager musical wannabe

539
00:42:55.360 --> 00:43:00.559
who displays a great deal of sensitivity
as well as some endeavor, and that

540
00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:05.000
includes a really scene stealing a few
minutes when he breaks into song in front

541
00:43:05.039 --> 00:43:08.880
of the guy and girl that have
approached him for a loan. And Victoria

542
00:43:08.960 --> 00:43:14.000
Falconer, she has her time to
shine. She plays a seductress called Reezer.

543
00:43:14.239 --> 00:43:17.760
She also happens to be the musical
director of this particular piece, so

544
00:43:19.199 --> 00:43:24.599
very very nice to see the two
roles combined. Pavan Kumar Hari plays a

545
00:43:24.679 --> 00:43:30.519
heavy metal drummer and a bloke addicted
to coffee. He plays the character spec

546
00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:36.280
and he does that really well.
He's quite the character, sure, we

547
00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:42.400
say. And there is a delightful
bearish restraint about j Lagalia or Lagaya as

548
00:43:42.440 --> 00:43:45.599
the hoover guy's father Da. So
that's just some of the characters, not

549
00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:52.039
a weak note in what is a
truly stellar showing by a highly talented ensemble,

550
00:43:52.360 --> 00:43:55.119
all of whom play a range of
musical instruments and sing. That's what's

551
00:43:55.400 --> 00:43:59.360
so special about this you've got I
think it was twelve people on stage.

552
00:43:59.480 --> 00:44:01.159
I read in the notes that were
thirteen, but I only counted twelve.

553
00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:09.199
And having said that, they play
the musical instruments magnificently and the chorus numbers

554
00:44:09.199 --> 00:44:15.039
are terrific, really really strong,
so they sing beautifully, they play wonderfully.

555
00:44:15.480 --> 00:44:19.800
The actors obviously therefore double as the
show's band. The set by Hugh

556
00:44:19.880 --> 00:44:22.519
O'Connor, and we've got a bar
that's that's the essence of it, but

557
00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:28.920
also makes makeshift music shop with a
movable piano, and then there's a corner

558
00:44:29.199 --> 00:44:31.880
for the guy's threadbare room. I
like that very much. The lighting by

559
00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:37.360
Peter Ruby struck me as moonbeams coming
down. I thought it was really a

560
00:44:37.480 --> 00:44:43.639
standout feature of the piece as well. And so this is a conflagration of

561
00:44:43.679 --> 00:44:46.039
the grand let me call it that. A script that can move mountains,

562
00:44:46.679 --> 00:44:52.639
music to stir the soul, and
performances that delight nexcel So, having been

563
00:44:52.679 --> 00:44:57.320
totally engaged, thoroughly entertained, I
walked out of the comedy theater. Feeling

564
00:44:57.320 --> 00:44:59.639
elated, I said to my wife, Gee, doesn't this put you in

565
00:44:59.639 --> 00:45:01.719
a great mood? I mean,
that's what we want out of our films,

566
00:45:01.760 --> 00:45:06.320
out of our theater, out of
books we read, exhibitions we see.

567
00:45:06.440 --> 00:45:09.559
It's directed by Richard Carroll, musical
direction I mentioned already by Victoria Falconer,

568
00:45:09.880 --> 00:45:15.599
and it's playing at the Comedy Theater
until the fourth of June, so

569
00:45:15.639 --> 00:45:17.559
you've got a little time to see
it. And yeah, I mean,

570
00:45:17.599 --> 00:45:22.800
I think it reflects extremely well.
I like I like pieces Peter that it

571
00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:24.039
can be formed in you know,
it can be a book, it can

572
00:45:24.079 --> 00:45:28.920
be a play, it can be
a movie, and it works in all

573
00:45:28.960 --> 00:45:32.360
formats. I mean, that's that's
quite something. It certainly isn't It sounds

574
00:45:32.400 --> 00:45:37.639
like it is a really good stage
adaptation. So yeah, I certainly liked

575
00:45:37.639 --> 00:45:42.039
the original film, which did very
well. Yeah it didn't do Now,

576
00:45:42.719 --> 00:45:47.039
talking about original films, I wanted
to mention, did you see head On?

577
00:45:47.280 --> 00:45:51.199
The It was a head On?
Should have been called full On.

578
00:45:51.239 --> 00:45:54.719
It was a movie. I'm just
trying to think what year it came out,

579
00:45:55.960 --> 00:46:01.119
but must be around two thousand or
thereabouts. Maybe I would have thought.

580
00:46:01.159 --> 00:46:04.440
So, I mean this is sort
of sex, drugs and rock and

581
00:46:04.559 --> 00:46:07.079
roll. But you remember it.
I don't think you could have seen the

582
00:46:07.079 --> 00:46:12.119
movie without remembering It's it's sort of
seed into the brain at the time.

583
00:46:12.159 --> 00:46:15.559
And I mean, do you recollect
what your thoughts were when you saw it.

584
00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:19.880
I mean, it's not a film
for everybody, is it. Well?

585
00:46:19.920 --> 00:46:23.039
I thought it was a really brave
and nineteen ninety eight I just saw

586
00:46:23.920 --> 00:46:29.159
that came out. It was very
brave film for Anna Cognos to deal with

587
00:46:29.679 --> 00:46:32.360
a man's wrestling with his I think
it was his Greek heritage played by a

588
00:46:32.800 --> 00:46:37.480
meriadist, and his sexuality and he
sexually exactly. And there were some fairly

589
00:46:37.840 --> 00:46:42.760
confronting scenes, some very explicit scenes
in the film, which I think was

590
00:46:43.559 --> 00:46:46.159
R rated when it was released.
But I thought it was a good,

591
00:46:46.199 --> 00:46:53.239
brave film dealing with some complex issues. Yeah it was. And look this

592
00:46:53.360 --> 00:47:01.320
is it's an amazing performance because there
is one person on stage for ninety five

593
00:47:01.440 --> 00:47:07.880
minutes, Peter. That's incredibly hard. But the nuance that he puts into

594
00:47:07.880 --> 00:47:15.320
the role and the fact that he
uses pauses very very effectively. It is

595
00:47:15.400 --> 00:47:21.679
really something. His name is Danny
Ball and he plays this nineteen year old,

596
00:47:21.760 --> 00:47:28.440
unemployed, reckless gay Australian Right's they're
in Melbourne and they travel, He

597
00:47:28.559 --> 00:47:31.639
travels the length and breadth of the
city. And I mean his poison in

598
00:47:31.639 --> 00:47:35.320
this case it's it's not sex,
drugs and rock and roll. It's sex,

599
00:47:35.400 --> 00:47:39.760
drugs and grunge and hip hop.
So Ari's drawn to Melbourne's gay club's

600
00:47:39.920 --> 00:47:44.960
unprotected sex, hard drugs and tell
you what its death said, easy to

601
00:47:44.960 --> 00:47:49.920
get hold of the stuff and thumping
music. And he distances and denounces his

602
00:47:50.039 --> 00:47:53.760
parents who are most disappointed in him. So it's twenty four hours. Loaded

603
00:47:53.920 --> 00:47:57.960
is twenty four hours in the life
of this young man. And this is

604
00:47:58.000 --> 00:48:01.519
playing by the way at Malthouse Theater
as we speak, and a lot goes

605
00:48:01.599 --> 00:48:09.800
down in that day. Now the
novel was published first published in nineteen ninety

606
00:48:09.800 --> 00:48:16.239
five and it was by the Australian
writer Christos Tiolkas, and then it was

607
00:48:16.360 --> 00:48:21.599
adapted in ninety eight as you say
to head On, and then now it

608
00:48:21.639 --> 00:48:25.239
was then reimagined as an audio adaptation
in twenty twenty. And the director of

609
00:48:25.440 --> 00:48:35.280
Loaded is Stephen Nicolazzo, and he
joins writers Don Giovannini and Christos Tiocas,

610
00:48:35.320 --> 00:48:42.960
who also did the slap in presenting
Ari's anarchic odyssey, right, and he

611
00:48:43.039 --> 00:48:47.840
trolls the length and breadth as I've
mentioned of Melbourne's burbs in getting to the

612
00:48:47.960 --> 00:48:52.280
end of his twenty four hour period. It's gritty, it's raw, it's

613
00:48:52.400 --> 00:48:57.880
raunchy, it's full on. It
pulls no punches. There's something even more

614
00:48:57.920 --> 00:49:00.360
confronting about it when when you've got
a live human being in front of you,

615
00:49:00.440 --> 00:49:02.719
Peter, if you're can appreciate that, right, I mean it's strong

616
00:49:02.840 --> 00:49:07.800
enough on film, but when you've
got somebody in front of you coborting and

617
00:49:07.880 --> 00:49:12.760
carrying on and speaking, there's there's
no off valve here, right. He

618
00:49:12.840 --> 00:49:17.159
speaks about sex acts in minute detail. And I mean, this is why

619
00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:21.119
I'm saying this has also got an
R rating, as it well should.

620
00:49:21.440 --> 00:49:25.840
It's one for mature audiences who can
handle frequent course language, explicit references to

621
00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:30.360
sex acts that are some of which
are consensual and others that are non consensual.

622
00:49:31.800 --> 00:49:37.599
Again, a mature audience that can
handle homophobic, misogynistic and culturally derogatory

623
00:49:37.719 --> 00:49:43.320
slurs. And they're also multiple drug
references, so it throws all of this

624
00:49:43.440 --> 00:49:47.280
addus. It's a hell of a
script that Ball channels with visceral distinction,

625
00:49:49.199 --> 00:49:52.599
giving it voice and as I said, Nuance, SUPERB port traylie Danny Ball,

626
00:49:52.760 --> 00:49:57.199
I mean this is it is.
It's raw and raunchy. As I've

627
00:49:57.199 --> 00:50:00.440
mentioned, Danny Ball is this ball
of pent up energy. It goes like

628
00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:05.400
the Clappers for the hour and a
half. Pluss, he doesn't miss a

629
00:50:05.440 --> 00:50:09.840
beat, superb portrayal, and he
conjures vivid mind pictures. He transports us

630
00:50:09.840 --> 00:50:15.159
to where Ury goes, the scenes, the smells, the tastes, and

631
00:50:15.800 --> 00:50:21.920
it's just an amazing production in that
regard. Variously dressed and undressed, his

632
00:50:22.039 --> 00:50:25.320
journey is certainly not one for the
faint hearted. At times, it's really

633
00:50:25.400 --> 00:50:30.880
ugly, it's brutal, and then
again there are moments of ecstasy. And

634
00:50:30.039 --> 00:50:32.719
with all of that in mind,
the sound, the set, the lighting

635
00:50:32.719 --> 00:50:38.760
design I thought were vital and effective
in bolstering just how real the production feels.

636
00:50:39.440 --> 00:50:45.400
It comes across as a slice of
the seedy side of life. So

637
00:50:45.880 --> 00:50:50.239
it's it's not going to suit everybody, It really isn't. Some people are

638
00:50:50.280 --> 00:50:54.119
going to find it too much,
you know. I think that that was

639
00:50:54.199 --> 00:51:00.559
always the film's intention. That was
always the intention of the book, but

640
00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:05.559
it has a place. It certainly
a has a place in artistic history now

641
00:51:05.880 --> 00:51:12.760
and here we are looking at it, what sort of twenty eight years after

642
00:51:13.320 --> 00:51:16.599
after the novel that made such a
splash, and it's still making a splash

643
00:51:16.639 --> 00:51:21.599
now on the stage. It's not
at the Beckett Theater Malthouse Theater until the

644
00:51:21.719 --> 00:51:27.119
third of June twenty twenty three.
I don't suppose that surprises you, that

645
00:51:27.119 --> 00:51:32.079
that basically you've got the strength of
the conviction of the original novel and the

646
00:51:32.119 --> 00:51:37.800
original film on stage. But you
can just imagine, Peter, that its

647
00:51:37.840 --> 00:51:42.559
impact is strong. Okay, yes, it sounds like it's a very impactful,

648
00:51:42.719 --> 00:51:45.719
especially considering there's no other actors,
no one else involved, just just

649
00:51:45.840 --> 00:51:50.719
the main actor, and that that's
really a feat. And I've seen quite

650
00:51:50.719 --> 00:51:54.880
a number of individual actors doing this
in recent years, and boy, it

651
00:51:54.960 --> 00:52:00.360
must be incredibly wearing it doing it
night after night as well. It must

652
00:52:00.400 --> 00:52:04.559
be emotionally draining just to fill a
role like that. Before we go on

653
00:52:04.639 --> 00:52:08.760
j eighty eight FM, I did
want to make reference to another production,

654
00:52:08.760 --> 00:52:15.480
which is only one finishes today,
but if it finished today, actually,

655
00:52:15.480 --> 00:52:17.880
But having said that, I hope
you get the chance to see it.

656
00:52:17.639 --> 00:52:22.519
It's called The Wrong Horse and it
was playing at the MC show Room in

657
00:52:22.559 --> 00:52:27.920
Perran and it concerned a couple of
bumbling small time crims who luck out in

658
00:52:28.440 --> 00:52:31.360
what is really a fastical comedy,
The Wrong Horse, and we're talking about

659
00:52:31.480 --> 00:52:36.079
best mates now. They're named Natty
and Big Years, which I thought was

660
00:52:36.079 --> 00:52:39.559
a very nice start, played by
Darren Morton and Dom Feel and Peter and

661
00:52:40.199 --> 00:52:45.760
Big Years. By the way,
he's got a wind issue now. He's

662
00:52:45.800 --> 00:52:49.320
forever sponging off Naughty, dropping it
at his place all hours the day and

663
00:52:49.480 --> 00:52:53.800
night, drinking his booze, eating
his food. And these two known each

664
00:52:53.800 --> 00:52:59.880
other for six years and they do
jobs together, so I think the suggest

665
00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:05.039
is that they met each other behind
prison bars. But anyway not he's the

666
00:53:05.039 --> 00:53:09.440
supposed brains of the operation, but
he has what he terms number dyslexia.

667
00:53:09.599 --> 00:53:14.119
Now that means he gets his digitsmith
stup mixed up, which I just did

668
00:53:14.159 --> 00:53:16.280
with my words. It's hardly what
you want from a gambler, which he

669
00:53:16.440 --> 00:53:21.559
is. And you've got a day
on the punt bringing with it unexpected surprises,

670
00:53:21.760 --> 00:53:24.719
so that's a starting point for it. It's really slaps a humor on

671
00:53:24.760 --> 00:53:30.000
steroids. I mean, stupidity abounds. Some of it is improvised in the

672
00:53:30.039 --> 00:53:31.519
show, which I really liked,
and the cast has a wow of a

673
00:53:31.599 --> 00:53:36.800
time with a material. I really
liked some of the performances that there's a

674
00:53:36.840 --> 00:53:39.199
point about halfway through the first act
where it really took off for me.

675
00:53:39.559 --> 00:53:44.000
And there's some great performances, including
those of the two leads I've mentioned,

676
00:53:44.000 --> 00:53:49.920
but also Bridget Davis, who plays
a several roles, including Mary the strapper

677
00:53:50.119 --> 00:53:55.360
I'm talking about horse strapper, and
then she later she plays a bespectacled librarian

678
00:53:55.880 --> 00:54:00.440
and does that just both all those
roles with absolute distinction. I really enjoyed

679
00:54:00.480 --> 00:54:04.880
it. It was It's kind of
like the props and staging add to the

680
00:54:04.920 --> 00:54:07.960
hilarity. By the way, you
can you imagine a two person couch doubling

681
00:54:07.960 --> 00:54:15.480
as a car, complete with a
disconnected furry steering wheel and then handheld swinging

682
00:54:15.800 --> 00:54:22.079
synthetic dice. Let your mind go
there. Really really fun, delightful throwback,

683
00:54:22.119 --> 00:54:25.360
good time vibe called the wrong Horse. Look out for it and hopefully

684
00:54:25.360 --> 00:54:29.920
it will come back. Peter,
thanks very much for your involvement today.

685
00:54:30.760 --> 00:54:34.559
My pleasure is so much to see
at the German Film Festival at the moment,

686
00:54:34.639 --> 00:54:37.480
and there is indeed yet. Please, folks go out and see Palace

687
00:54:37.480 --> 00:54:40.119
Cinemas, who always do these festivals
very very well. We'll do it all

688
00:54:40.119 --> 00:54:45.079
again next week. You have been
listening to First on Film and Entertainment,

689
00:54:45.320 --> 00:54:47.960
Alex First and Peter Krause signing off
for another week.