S02E12: Exciting Times at the International Comedy Festival: Challenges and Opportunities in the Entertainment Industry

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First on film and entertainment. Busy, busy times because the International Comedy Festival

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has been in full swing for a
couple of weeks or more in number of

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invitations. It is so nice that
people want us to go along to their

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shows. It's virtually impossible there as
one human being, to be at every

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single performance of every show. It's
kind of fascinating because you've got the people

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who are the repeats, and then
you've got those who come along. You

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know, fresh talent is always terrific, and I want to encourage people,

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for example, who are graduates from
the VCA Victorian College of the Arts or

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from Whopper. I mean, I've
seen quite a bit of their material and

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I've been particularly impressed. Very very
hard to even, once you've gone to

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one of these institutions to get a
regular gig, because being an actor,

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being a producer, being a director, being a scriptwriter ah hard, hard

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hard work. Talk about scriptwriters,
Peter Krause, you've written the script to

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your life? Have you not?
I'm sure I have. I'm just waiting

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for the movie to come out.
Well, I was going to say,

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I reckon, we need to make
a movie about you, because I think

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you see more film than anybody that
I know, And your whole life is

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dedicated to cinema. So that's that's
you know, somebody somewhere we'll get a

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camera out of the attic and shoot
a feature film about you. Wouldn't that

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be nice? If it would be
incredible? Out I could see the Oscar

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nominations. Now, well, who's
going to play Peter Krause? Though?

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Who's that want to play Peter Krause? Maybe that's the question. M David

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Wenham, who knows Greg Keen?
What do you reckon Peter Krause? As

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as channeled by David Wenham? Would
it work? I don't know. Probably

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a bit of makeup there, wouldn't
he? I think Russell Crowe. I

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think the New Zealander Russell Crowe,
your death very good? And Hamilton An

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you are hearing from Yes, indeed, we'll never let you live that down.

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Peter. He is part keywee part
Australian, now is he not?

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It depends which part you're looking at. Oh please, this is a g

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rated program. We'retralia. Australian asks
when he's showing phones Clark, Oh very

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good. Okay, we are going
to talk about both cinema and theater because

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that Jackie's had the good fortune to
go along and see a couple of shows

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that I have seen. But we're
going to start with a movie that is

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particularly long. And as those of
you who do listen to the program more

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regularly will know, I usually find
anything over nineteen minutes challenges me. When

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this is double that amount, while
it's older than seventy nine minutes, this

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was always going to be an enormous
challenge. I speak of Bow is afraid.

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I was afraid before I actually walked
into the cinema. It is our

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ray, but it is starring one
of the finest actors of the generation,

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our generation Wuck in Phoenix, very
very impressive. He really is. Plays

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Bo Wasserman has issues, having a
very very bad few days. He's anxiety

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riddled, and he's got a therapist
played by Stephen McKinley Anderson who prescribes new

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medication ahead of a planned visit that
dear Bow is making to his wealthy and

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successful seventy year old mother, Mota, which we see her later in the

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film, played by Patty Lapone.
She has been a massive controlling influence in

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Bo's life because he never knew his
dad, all is now in readiness for

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the trip that he's about to take
the following day. In fact, then

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everything goes pear shaped. In fact, anything that possibly could go wrong does.

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A large contributing factor is that Bow
lives in a neighborhood from l That's

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the only way you can think of
describing it. It's where the world's flotsam

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and jetsam appeared to have descended on
mass. And obviously, as a result

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of all of this, the intended
break goes awry and Bow ends up in

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the company of va benevolent strangers.
I speak of Grace, Amy, Ryan

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and Roger Nathan Lane. We haven't
seen Nathan Lane seemingly forever in film,

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so it was great. I thought
of the birdcage immediately. He's got that

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smog on his face as well.
Anyway, they that two of them,

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Grayson Roger put up Bow, and
they put him up in their troubled teenage

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daughter Tony's room, Tony played by
Kylie Rogers, and that merely serves to

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further ostracizer. You know, she's
got ten ajangst and all sorts of things

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going on there. These are rather
unusual parents, we shall say that,

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and they've actually memorialized their dead war
hero's son. The couple that I'm speaking

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of, Grace and Roger, have
also taken in the Fellows Soldier to their

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dead son, Fellows soldier called Jeeves
played by Dennis Menochet, and he's got

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major mental health issues. So as
this story unfolds, we get to see

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a young bow Wasserman his awkward interaction
with his first and early girlfriend, Elaine.

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And Elaine is played as a younger
person by Julia Antonelli and as an

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older person by Parker Posey. And
this is a really convoluted plot. But

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with the introduction that I've given you, now I reckon, I've just brushed

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the surface. It's an increasingly zany
piece of work. Bow as Afraid,

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which I reckon, starts with a
heck of a lot of promise. I

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thought the first actor was an absolute
beauty, highly creative, intense, off

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the wall and dangerously funny. And
it's helped a great deal by the fine

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actor that work in Phoenix is his
sort of nonplust expressions served to heighten the

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impact, and I think they're they're
actually helped by the close up cinematography favored

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by Pavel pager round, how do
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who did the movie Fresh, which
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So I really appreciated the cinematography.
But and there's a big butt ari Astor,

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who'd admits Summer is the one who's
behind this, and he has crafted

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a challenging, decidedly confrontational, increasingly
abcused script which well, unfortunately loses its

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way, does it not, Gregory
King, Well, it does lose its

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way a little bit. This is
a completely bonkers, surreal, bloated pitch

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service is comedy. It's not really
a horror film, though, which assert

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is more known for it. Who
Beds Were in Midsummer? But some more

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we're disturbing keV karesque nightmare, full
of fraudyan overtones, and it remind me

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a little bit of Jaron Aronovski's equally
bizarre film Mother We she might remember from

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a few years ago, and Almoso
a bit of David Leach weirdness thrown in

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there as well. And the film
chaps into our contemporary fears at modern city

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is a dangerous places to live.
I agreed that the place where Bow lives

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a city apartment above a porn theater. It's not the most salubrious environment there,

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And greet, you live in a
city, mate, could you imagine

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living in a place like that?
Honestly, No, My place is a

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lot more cleaner and a bit safer, Alice, But the area he's living

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in is populated by dead peaks,
rugadd its bookers, and there's even a

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naked serial killer running around stabbing people
there. Look, I'd enjoyed the first

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hour or so it is from that, the first couple of acts here,

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But I thought the home that went
on the sillier and more in proper ends

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or became. But like Malcolm,
Phoenix does a superb job there. He

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conveys all his anxiety, his mental
rubles there um. And he's obviously got

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a troubled relationship with his mother there
um. A lot of unresolved issues there,

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which seon give me a source of
most of his anxieties and phobias.

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He's got more phobias and neuroses.
He didn't pay to stick out there um.

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I thought Nathan Lane was slightly creepy
as the doctor there um. There

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is an extended animation sequence from Chilean
animatorscom Casina and CHRISA. Bell Lean that

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showed body Bow on an odyssey to
reconnect with his family, which was interesting,

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but I don't know um with that
Greek. I know it was interesting.

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It was an interesting way they put
together there, and I agree with

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you is beautifully shot there by his
regular scene result for Powell public Zelski,

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and I like the production design from
Gionah Crombie um that created a bunget the

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grungey look of both city apartment building
there. Um. Look, this is

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a film that Walcome found. We
knew disturbed audiences. They found it polarized

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audiences, Alex. But the first
hour or so is really interesting and um

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for pitchback humor and I enjoyed that
part of it. But after he left

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the Nation Lane's family, that sort
of lost me a little bit. YEA,

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yeah, I mean, I look
like I agree, and I don't

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think it needed to be three hours
Greek did it? No? No?

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So yeah, But Peter, you're
the sort of person who is going to

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say to me, this is a
piece of magnificence of art to stay in

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one hundred and seventy nine minutes.
Are you not, Oh, you've just

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read my review? Well, sorry. Let me let me also say to

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you that this is also what a
Jacqueline Hamilton would say? Is that correct?

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Jacqueline? That'd be correct, Alex. There you go, greg What

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do we do with these racalcent reviewers
out? Do we take them out?

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People gonna respond to this film in
different ways, Alix, I'm understanding.

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Some people are gonna love it,
some people are gonna low, and some

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people are going to go. But
yeah, I just didn't think it needs

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to be three hours. There was
interesting, a lot of interesting ideas in

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there. As throws everything that at
the screen, not all of its sticks.

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Um. But yeah, so look, I know I'm trying to polarize

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audience. I know something would really
appreciate it. Yeah, I mean,

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look, it's it's a small audience
film. Let's be honest. There wasn't

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working, Phoenix. What's wrong would
being about three forty six? Sorry?

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Because there's going to be a small
audience room? What's wrong being about three

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forty six? Oh my golly,
and she's dead joke? It's a it's

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a yeah, it's very very sad. Gregory. All right, Tweeter,

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I'm I'm your horse mate. You
can go for it. Why should we

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see three hours of this movie,
because this is a film that I have

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retitled bo is going through a Freudian
existential mental health journey. Everything that we

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see on screen, and the way
I interpret this film is through his eyes,

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which means he is going through a
mental health breakdown, and so everything

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that we see is not realistic.
It is through his perspective. And that's

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what I found so interesting about this
journey is that he goes through hell,

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he goes through all sorts of difficult
experiences, and he has clearly mother complex

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issues that are well developed, but
he also has issues with women in general,

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and a lot of women treat him
badly or he perceives them to treat

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him badly. There is an extended
sequence which I found very Shakespearean in many

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respects where he is part of a
theater presentation, a theater performance which I

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thought was a brilliant bit of staging
and mimicked his own particular mental journey.

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Look, there is so much to
admire about this film. Yes, it

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is long, but it is very
involving and just like Homer's Odyssey and all

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sorts of Greek tragedies and other sort
of journeys that people with mental health breakdowns

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have. This film is quite a
revelation, and Ariasta, who is very

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good at depicting horror in terms of
Midsummer and Hereditary, has done an excellent

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job with looking at the horror of
the mind and how it can play terrible

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tricks on you. So I was
very impressed by Boers Afraid, and yes,

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you have to go into this film
very carefully and be prepared. It

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is not a film for everyone,
but I think it is quite a terrific

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exploration of someone's inner demons. Would
you agreed is a very small audience film?

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Note well yes, but so what
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is everything everywhere, all at once? But that took off as a cult

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film? Well I wouldn't. I
wouldn't you think this is going to take

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off as a cult film. I
don't think it will. I don't think

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it's got a snowballs open now taking
off as a cult as as a large

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audience cult film small audience, Yeah
maybe maybe, But I mean, are

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you equating this to everything everywhere or
at once? To some extent, yes,

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because it has a similarly convoluted a
sort of plotline, and we don't

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necessarily understand what we're seeing on screen
and why we're seeing it. So yes,

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I think there is some correlations there. Okay, well Jackie, do

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you let's start there. Do you
think this is a cult film? Yes,

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I'm going to absolutely applaud everything Peter
said. I totally saw it the

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same way as he saw it.
Winn or not it's cult film, will

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find out gone down the track.
But all the things that Peter has mentioned

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I endorse and I would add.
But I mean, I don't think there's

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a minute to get bored in this
film. So I don't understand how you

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could say the first third or whatever
was fine and from there it just went

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on Because there it just keeps revelation
after revelation, and it builds and it

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builds, and it's It's one of
the few films of this type that I've

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seen the packs so much in and
then ends so memorably. I mean,

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it doesn't just fizzle out memorably.
Does it end memorably? I didn't think

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it was absolutely at it just comes
together killers it became. I mean,

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the whole idea to scramble your mind
just grew with your head. Is that

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is that reason enough to make a
movie? Well, they're not necessarily No,

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that's not the reason for the movie, don't silly. It's it's it's

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us insight into his scrambled mind,
into his permanently dazed and confused condition,

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into his nightmare, which is kind
of a comedy to us, and the

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complexities and what he faces and what
he's come from and perhaps what you know,

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maybe some is mental health and some
is caused by parental cruelty verging on

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abuse and stories he's been told,
and therefore what you know, what he's

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taken into and forms the kind of
person he becomes, which just becomes more

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and more entrenched with the life that
he lives. UM and I just I

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just found and visually there is so
much his film. You've mentioned a few

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scenes, the animation. I thought
the animation was a brilliant kind of UM

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subplottered satellite to kind of fell with
it, as was the theater performance where

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he sees what his life perhaps could
have been, and you can you can

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feel the ache within him for what
he what he could have had, and

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he can see it, but he
never just did have that. And I

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think there's there are just so many
stories and so many different ways to tell

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it. Within this film that I
couldn't see a minute in which you could

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possibly be bored. Yeah. Well, I did find that there were periods

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which were just elongated unnecessarily, and
I thought they could have trimmed or cut

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out all together. But okay,
given all of that, well let's start

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with the good Peter score out of
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some people. A superb film,
Jackie. I agree with your comments as

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well, and the animation also fitted
in beautifully. Nine out of ten from

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me, Wow, okay, nine
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Jackie, where do you go with
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I'm on an eight and a half
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afraid eight and a half out of
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Yea. And might I also say
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working Phoenix. I mean, just
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credible in this really very odd personality
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brilliant. I think it's his career
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I think he's a magnificent actor,
and he inhabits the character and you

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believe that he is Bo, which
is exactly what you want. Okay,

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Gregory King, you and I are
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here. What do you reckon?
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he said, as the film relies
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seems to be drawn towards these ives, your characters, and he's on screen

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for much at a time, and
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It's really changed and emotionally draining there. But as I said, I found

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some of it's just a little bit
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it six out of ten. I'm
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So there we go. It really
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about the first forty five minutes and
then maybe even an hour, and it

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then started to lose me, and
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lost me. So there we go. All right, J eighty eight FM,

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we've had an R rated movie we're
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a good person. I'm not just
talking about you, Jackie. I'm talking

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about the name of a movie which
is m A rated and it's one hundred

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and twenty eight minutes long, broken, bruised, beaten, I'm not talking

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about this and killed a football club, Grek. I speak of this is

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in previous years. I speak of
a person called Allison played by Florence Pugh,

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who's this beautiful, talented, intelligent
woman in her mid twenties after a

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catastrophic incident. And there's this before
and after Allison. Before well, person

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Wisua davive, confidence, whole life
in front of it, engaged to be

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married to a soul mate, Nathan
played by chennais Uchi. Then a moment

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of distraction changes all of that.
Allison is addicted to oxycodon. Her life's

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spiraled out of control. She falls
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loathing in her middle name, overtures
from her mother, Diane played by Molly

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Shannon, summarily dismissed. The man
who helps rescue her has his own bucket

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full of pain. Tired cop Vietnam
war Vet Daniel played by Morgan Freeman was

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a physically abusive father, an alcoholic, estranged from his son. Now he's

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all at sea trying to single handedly
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old granddaughter Ryan played by Celeste O'Connor, who has lost her parents so Allison

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and Daniel's lives intersect and collide.
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dearest are palpable. Now, Okay, I could, and I've deliberately been

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careful about what parts of the narrative
are let loose, because I want you

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to see it and be surprised when
you go along and see a good person.

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But look, I could see myself
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other while I was watching A Good
Person. I was cognizant of that,

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but I was nevertheless heavily invested in
the journey that the writer and director Zach

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Braff created. Didn't he do a
Garden State all those years ago? Yes,

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it was two decades ago. Good
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enormously appreciate the stellar talents. Every
time I see Florence Pew, she just

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gets better and better. And Morgan
Freeman, I mean, wow, the

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two of them on screen together superb. Their talents are on display again here.

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Their ability to be in the moment, to capitalize on emotional intensity is

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what elevates this pair to the highest
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the pantheon of actors. Shall we
say, and you've got pe Being

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as Allison, being vulnerable, lost, fearful. She just wants to find

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a way for her pain to go
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then you've got Freeman as Daniel,
a man with profound regrets and frustration,

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someone who, like Allison, has
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he has inflicted. So it's a
film that asks the question how can one

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move on? And it's a tailor. It resonates because it's slice of life

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material. A split second can change
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others do not. So I mean
I said to you, it's a film

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that is manipulative, and you could
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see it here, and you can
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and that really puts me off.
It didn't this time. I found it

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deeply affecting, and I was quite
emotionally invest in this movie, Jackie you

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being emotionally invested, I was able
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they're really, you know, really
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that a bit far. So I
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there were a lot of times of
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imagine would be quite real, and
it did actually make me wonder whether it

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might be based on truth, on
a true episode, or whether they had

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done a lot of research with people
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know, there were a lot of
times where it got quite ugly in its

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honesty and that rawness, pretty brutal
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it would swing around again and sort
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interesting, and I agree with you
that together Florence Pew is just stunning and

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Morgan Freeman was just magnificently expressive and
understated through most of this in in his

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very expert ability, prescription pills addiction
is a horrible thing, and it's so

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it gives the film a kind of
a sense of being worthwhile, if you

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like, And maybe a worth while
film might lose a point for trying a

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bit hard, but it was well
done. Yeah, it really is interesting

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because when they make slice of life
movies, you sort of wonder, well,

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why do you want to see this? To hear it on the news

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all the time, but you just
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Peter that Florence Pure as an actor. It's just it is astounding for somebody

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so young to be so invested in
the roles I want to see. I'm

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longing to see the next Florence Pew
movie that I walk out of this and

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think I've got to see the next
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as an actor? Oh, she's
very impressive, an Irish actress who has

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really transcended into international roles and she
has a brilliant job. It's interesting how

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this film, a little bit like
Boa Is Afraid, also deals with psychological

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breakdown and mental health issues related to
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Zach Braff has dealt in his films
I Wish I Was Here and Garden

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State, as he mentioned, and
this one a good Person in issues related

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to damaged people and how these damaged
people can still find ways to move forward

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possibly. This film is very impressive
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melodramatic and emotional in other respects.
I like the storyline. I like the

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metaphor that has created in the film
with the model trains that Morgan Freeman run

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in his basement and the whole idea
that the film starts and ends with the

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idea that a train that has a
community that moves forward is a way of

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resolving any sort of personal issues,
potentially for people who are undergoing all sorts

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of difficulties and problems. It's interesting
too that a good person is a line

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that is referred to by Morgan Freeman's
character. He says, I am a

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good person, and then the inference
is I hope that you can be one

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as well. So I think there
is a lot to admire about this film

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about the metaphors that abound in the
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in terms of some of the melodrama
that does. Perhaps perhaps zach Brath could

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have restrained a little bit, But
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good film dealing with grief, responsibility, and redemption from a tragic circumstance.

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And Greg, I haven't don this
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problems at all. Well, look, let's get I suspect that, given

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what we've all said about it,
our schools are likely to be reasonably similar.

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But let's start off with you,
Peter. Look, I liked it.

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I gave it seven out of ten. Jackie. I liked it.

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I gave it six out of ten, and I liked it and I gave

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it a seven out of ten.
So there we go. A good person.

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M A rated our movie that's been
around for a few weeks that I

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only got to see about eight days
ago. I think, now we didn't

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get to it last week, and
we were going to called broke Up.

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Now it's M rated. And this
is also a long film at one hundred

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and twenty nine minutes. A baby
box in South Korea where women can leave

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newborns to be picked up and cared
for by people who care. Right,

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that's the starting point for what is
a really powerful journey involving a mother that

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abandoned her bub, the men who
took her, and the police who are

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following the case. The woman is
so young, that's the character's name,

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played by Lee ji yun, and
as the movie unfolds week hear more about

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her back story. The men who
took the infant named the infant is named

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Wu Sung, intending to sell her
to the highest bidder. Sang Hiang played

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by Song Kang ho, and Dong
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the former the first of these guys
runs a laundry business, saying Heyon,

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but is constantly saddled with debt.
The latter, Dong Su, grew up

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in an orphanage works in this facility
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after this young lady so Young leaves
her child, she returns to collect the

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tiny tipe and when she realizes that
this baby has been taken, she's about

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to call the police when the two
men who did the deed tell her everything

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Now unlikely as this seems, So
Young ends up joining the pair in their

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pursuit to find new parents for the
Litteraly and all the while telling them are

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police detectives, one played by Dona
Bay and a younger colleague, Lee jew

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Young, and they hope to catch
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child and basically with that wrap up
their half here investigated into these men.

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There is a lot more in Broker
than it first meets the eye. I

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really appreciated the way the movie was
written and performed. Quite revelatory actually,

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and we're drip fed information about all
the main players as the narrative developed.

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Initial harsh judgment is tempered by the
circumstances and the fact that notwithstanding their intent,

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the perpetrators are not viewed as traditional
villains now. The man behind it,

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behind the film as a writer and
director is Corey Edda. Herakazu won

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the Palm Door at Kahn back in
twenty eighteen for the movie Shoplifters, which

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was really really strong, and there's
a lot of nuance and surprises in Broker.

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I really like the older baby Broker
with a sense of benevolence. His

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partner makes it clear there's nothing worse
than abandonment because of his own circumstances,

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and there's a really tough resilience about
the characterization of the mother, the so

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young character by Lee g and a
determination about the work that the detectives are

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also doing. So I thought that
Broker was quite a mature, quite an

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accomplished piece of work from a writer
and director who really is at the top

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of his game. That's the way
that I viewed Broker. What about You,

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Peter oh I was very impressed by
this film, sequencing how this Japanese

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filmmaker, this is his second foreign
language film after making the French film The

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Truth with Catherine Deneuve, and what
he likes exploring in his films is the

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idea of dysfunctional families that can actually
come together and have some sort of cohesion,

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and that's certainly the case in Broker. This whole idea of there being

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no villains really in this film,
I mean, the woman giving up her

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child at birth and then perhaps reconsidering
but really understanding that her child would not

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have a good life unless it was
adopted by a good family, etc.

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Is very impressive. And I like
the idea of this group of Brokers who

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came together as a sort of Zach's
family, which is what the director likes

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to put together in his films,
a Zett's families that can function well.

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Really strong story, really well directed, and I love the way the story

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developed into something that was very affirming
and positive, so that children who are

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in a situational babies who are put
in this circumstance are not given up to

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the state and possibly put into dire
circumstances at times, but are adopted by

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families that can truly look after this
baby that the mother no longer is capable

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of looking after herself. So I
really like this film because of its character

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study, because of its connection with
family and the way it resolves all the

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issues so beautifully in the film.
Jackie, do you think that Broker is

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a movie that everybody will relate to
or again, it's going to be a

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limited appeal to movie. I would
like to think that people would listen to

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and read positive reviews of this film
and step out of you know, step

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out of what might be their comfort
zone in film watching and see this because

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it looks to not be, you
know, your mainstream kind of film,

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but once you see it, it
has a lot to say to the average

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person. And I've got nothing but
love for Broker. I thought it was

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beautifully put together, beautifully filmed,
beautiful characters, a great story, a

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great depth. As Peter said,
obvious sorry positive, and it has a

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very night touch. There's a lot
of comedy in this film. There's a

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lot to enjoy and actually laugh out
loud at and all those gaps that one

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wonders about through the film all come
through and it's all it all rounds out

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in the end. So it's just
beautifully constructed film Broker. Yep, there

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are surprises, there aren't there,
I mean, at every turn, and

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this is what makes the film.
You don't want predictability, you want something

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that's a little bit different, and
this is decidedly so, which is really

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commendable. Is it not great?
Yeah? An interesting film gives you some

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insight into something way of life in
career that we didn't know about, especially

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the baby adoptions and no baby boxes, which I hadn't heard of. But

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this is similar to our hero's as
of films which fire carefulis on the outside,

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on the outside or the figures of
society, but it focus is on

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family values. As Peter and Jeff
you said, there an the importance of

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connection there and as a slow moving
but for provoting drama, and it's also

404
00:33:57.279 --> 00:34:00.799
some of the shapes of the road
movie genre here, as the terraces come

405
00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:06.720
together and sort of form an unofficial
family there. I sound hurried and allow

406
00:34:06.759 --> 00:34:12.079
our audiences trying to get to know
these flowed characters and the director its cause.

407
00:34:12.119 --> 00:34:16.000
The internal struggles are conflicted emotional journeys, but he's not judgmental in his

408
00:34:16.039 --> 00:34:23.360
approach to the carriages, as observational
at times and handles the films complex issues

409
00:34:23.360 --> 00:34:28.559
and theme with empathy compassion, And
as the any point out, there are

410
00:34:28.599 --> 00:34:31.840
some generous joss of humor here and
solid performances all around, and it's been

411
00:34:31.840 --> 00:34:38.840
beautifully shot. But I think by
cinem Feldval Hong Young Hong Hoe who sang

412
00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:44.440
film for Bob Junhoe like Parasites and
Snowbies that so yeah, we are.

413
00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:51.400
But again it's one of those slow
burned films that allows you gets to understand

414
00:34:51.400 --> 00:34:53.280
the characters and what's going on.
Yeah, I agree with that. I

415
00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:58.360
think you really, once you become
invested, you really are heavily invested in

416
00:34:58.360 --> 00:35:00.880
it. So let's let's stub you
then, Gregor score out of ten for

417
00:35:01.320 --> 00:35:06.159
this particular thought, I'll do it
seven out of ten, seven out of

418
00:35:06.159 --> 00:35:08.519
ten, okay, And I think
Jackie, you'll go high out. Oh

419
00:35:08.599 --> 00:35:14.440
yes, I'll go a lot higher. And I remember Shoplifters very well.

420
00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:19.760
I love that, And I love
the family connection in that film where you

421
00:35:19.800 --> 00:35:23.559
don't have to be family by blood, it's by being together and fitting in

422
00:35:23.599 --> 00:35:29.360
together. So Broker has the same
kind of thing I've given Broker and nine

423
00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:34.039
out of ten. Wow, okay. Meet And similarly, I just like

424
00:35:34.119 --> 00:35:37.320
bow Is Afraid an incredible film nine
out of ten from me. Yeah,

425
00:35:37.360 --> 00:35:43.239
I'm giving it an eight out of
ten. So coming between you and Gregory,

426
00:35:44.000 --> 00:35:46.960
but very very worthwhile no question about
that at all. Now we are

427
00:35:47.039 --> 00:35:53.360
moving on J eighty eight FM from
film to theater, and Jackie, you

428
00:35:53.400 --> 00:35:59.400
went along with me to see firstly
a which we don't say this a lot

429
00:35:59.679 --> 00:36:08.360
and original musical made in Australia.
And we start here by looking back at

430
00:36:08.360 --> 00:36:15.079
a movie that was OSCAR nominated.
In fact it was but me nominated for

431
00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:22.239
eight Academy Awards. And I speak
of David Lynch's nineteen eighty dramatic biographical film

432
00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:27.239
The Elephant Man. So from recollection
that was Anthony Hopkins and John Burt was

433
00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:32.719
it not so that movie remains seething
in the buy consciousness. It really had

434
00:36:32.719 --> 00:36:37.559
a huge impact and Bancroft was there, John Gielgood as well. And now

435
00:36:37.599 --> 00:36:44.599
this clever and created group of writers
and composers Mark Luke, Chessie, Sarah

436
00:36:44.719 --> 00:36:52.639
Nanda Koppen and husband Jay and Nander
Coppen have taken the essence of the story

437
00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:57.639
and twisted it and turned it into
well, I think highly at attaining an

438
00:36:57.639 --> 00:37:02.000
engaging musical dramedy. I'm talking about
The Marvelous Elephant Man, the Musical.

439
00:37:02.079 --> 00:37:07.559
That's how it's been retitled The Marvelous
Elephant Man The musical. It is on

440
00:37:07.639 --> 00:37:12.079
at chapelof Chapel, and I think
there's a great deal of genius about the

441
00:37:12.119 --> 00:37:16.199
show, Jaggie. The story remains
moving and meaningful, but it's also risque

442
00:37:16.159 --> 00:37:21.320
any reverent the way that they've put
it together. And you've got John Merrick

443
00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:24.639
played by Ben Clark, who's a
human freak and I use the word freak

444
00:37:24.760 --> 00:37:30.639
in Inverted Commas, abandoned by his
mother, a prostitute and exploited for his

445
00:37:30.719 --> 00:37:37.000
physical deformity. He's actually like a
circus show oddity pointed to and laughed at.

446
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:44.199
He's rescued again in Inverted Commas by
an eminent surgeon called doctor Treeves played

447
00:37:44.239 --> 00:37:50.920
by Canon Breen. His intention,
though, or intentions plural, are anything

448
00:37:51.079 --> 00:37:55.880
but laudable. Hope for John Merrick
comes by way of a nurse of that

449
00:37:57.000 --> 00:38:01.239
name, Nurse Hope played by Annaly's
Hall, who's sees behind the physical and

450
00:38:01.400 --> 00:38:07.280
enables Merrick's in a self to bloom. So that's the marvelous elephant man.

451
00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:12.599
Before I give my thoughts, I'm
interested in yours, Jackie. We sat

452
00:38:12.880 --> 00:38:16.440
near the top of Chapel of Chapel
in the theater there, and what did

453
00:38:16.440 --> 00:38:22.400
you think of the show. Um, well, your reference there to sitting

454
00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:25.559
in the near the top, I
was actually in the back row, and

455
00:38:25.920 --> 00:38:32.679
that gave me the opportunity to to
see what it was like from way up

456
00:38:32.679 --> 00:38:37.800
there in the nose bleeds. And
the big problem with seeing the play was

457
00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:45.480
that it was it was. The
problem was the staging. The most of

458
00:38:45.480 --> 00:38:51.320
the action took place in the front
half of the stage. Well, it's

459
00:38:51.320 --> 00:38:55.199
not a stage, it's floor level, and there's a raised two sections of

460
00:38:55.280 --> 00:39:00.440
race stage towards the back. And
if the action had been on those raised

461
00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:05.519
platforms, I would have been able
to sit, But as it was being

462
00:39:05.599 --> 00:39:09.159
on the floor, I could only
ever see the actors from the chest up,

463
00:39:09.760 --> 00:39:14.800
so that didn't work when there were
incidents where, for example, they

464
00:39:14.880 --> 00:39:19.320
fell to the ground and things were
going on on the floor and were out

465
00:39:19.360 --> 00:39:29.079
of you, so I couldn't couldn't
see Hay could started your play where half

466
00:39:29.119 --> 00:39:34.800
the audience couldn't see the actors and
yet we saw the orchestra in full glory

467
00:39:34.920 --> 00:39:39.199
for the entire duration. But have
really commented on what you did see,

468
00:39:39.199 --> 00:39:46.320
because look, I sat literally about
twenty meters from you, twenty feet from

469
00:39:46.320 --> 00:39:51.960
you actually, and I managed to
see most of it without any problem.

470
00:39:52.519 --> 00:39:54.119
I just I couldn't see their feet. In fact, somebody said to me

471
00:39:54.159 --> 00:39:58.840
afterwards, did you see those really
shiny red shoes? And I said no.

472
00:39:59.559 --> 00:40:04.280
But apart from that, I really
think that the musical works on so

473
00:40:04.320 --> 00:40:07.320
many levels. Do you, I
mean, forget about it, I thought,

474
00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:10.480
Alex. The first half was great, fun, great lyrics, some

475
00:40:10.679 --> 00:40:17.320
really great vocal range in by the
singers, good fun, as you said,

476
00:40:17.400 --> 00:40:23.719
irreverence and cheeky and clever, really
clever. And I when I heard

477
00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:29.800
the title of the Marvelous Elephant Man
the musical, I thought, how are

478
00:40:29.800 --> 00:40:32.840
they going to do this? I
really couldn't imagine how this could come together?

479
00:40:34.159 --> 00:40:37.239
And it was terrific. And then
the second half went to the second

480
00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:40.519
half after interval, I felt that
it was a complete loss. It didn't

481
00:40:40.559 --> 00:40:44.920
take the story any further. I
didn't even really understand, and it dranned

482
00:40:44.960 --> 00:40:47.920
and it sort of became this romance
just kind of kept limping and limping and

483
00:40:47.960 --> 00:40:52.000
limping along. And if they'd left
it it up to interval, I would

484
00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:55.280
have been much more impressed. Yeah, okay, well I know I didn't

485
00:40:55.320 --> 00:41:00.480
feel that way. I really think
that it needed to I thought it did

486
00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:02.840
develop, but I mean I found
it engaging. It's a bullion to it's

487
00:41:02.920 --> 00:41:08.559
dramatic, it's dastardly, and it's
also body and belligerent. So all of

488
00:41:08.599 --> 00:41:15.519
those ingredients sort of came together musically, really melodic and lyrical. It ticked

489
00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:19.239
all the right boxes as far as
that's concerned, and I found myself heavily

490
00:41:19.320 --> 00:41:23.039
drawn to and invested in the in
the tunings a sure fire of my involvement.

491
00:41:23.199 --> 00:41:28.559
I actually wanted by an album featuring
all the songs, A number of

492
00:41:28.559 --> 00:41:31.639
those would have become earworms, so
that they've done a really good job there.

493
00:41:31.800 --> 00:41:37.079
The stagecraft, the vocal strength,
the sex soften as credentials of Mark

494
00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:42.679
Lachesi, who plays the ringmaster among
several divert characters, make him an instant

495
00:41:42.719 --> 00:41:46.360
hit. Wasn't he fantastic major guy? It's terrific, absolutely truely realized.

496
00:41:46.400 --> 00:41:51.239
This his first This is the first
attempt at a musical. I think that's

497
00:41:51.880 --> 00:41:54.480
I mean, like I was blown
away by that, and he had terrific

498
00:41:54.559 --> 00:41:58.960
voice. Yeah, yeah, much
to do with the success of this particular

499
00:41:59.000 --> 00:42:04.440
piece. Mark Chessi lu double c
H E s I that's his surname,

500
00:42:04.599 --> 00:42:09.920
and Cannon Breen. Well, didn't
he drip with this super silly as ability.

501
00:42:10.559 --> 00:42:15.239
That's exactly what you want. Oh, there were great characterizations in it,

502
00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:17.079
for sure. Yeah, and milked
his stage persona for all it was

503
00:42:17.119 --> 00:42:22.039
worth. And as doctor Treves,
there's sort of arrogance and entitlement for his

504
00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:23.960
middle names. You know what I
thought of, Jackie. He brings back

505
00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:28.840
a bygone era when patrons used to
boo and hiss and throw rock and fluid

506
00:42:28.840 --> 00:42:31.760
and actors. That's what you know, it's it's it's you know, Dudley

507
00:42:31.840 --> 00:42:37.119
do Right in the That was one
of the our cartoons that we grew up

508
00:42:37.159 --> 00:42:40.440
with, wasn't it great? Dudley
do Right? No Wrong Year? And

509
00:42:40.559 --> 00:42:45.239
I was who was who was the
cartoon character? It used to sort of

510
00:42:45.719 --> 00:42:51.679
play with his mustache. It was
a bad guy. I don't even remember

511
00:42:51.719 --> 00:42:54.559
who that was anyway. That's what
he reminded me of, did it not?

512
00:42:54.880 --> 00:42:58.840
Did that not sort of set you
off a little bit, Jackie?

513
00:42:58.920 --> 00:43:04.320
In terms of the the Cannon Breen
character, Oh, I agree, great

514
00:43:04.400 --> 00:43:07.239
characters. I enjoyed the characters,
the lyrics. That was very good writing.

515
00:43:07.719 --> 00:43:13.559
Yeah, that was the second half
that I just felt, perhaps I

516
00:43:13.679 --> 00:43:16.280
felt the first half was very clever, and then second half just kind of

517
00:43:16.280 --> 00:43:22.639
went slapstick silly. Well, Analy's
Hall as this really sweet mallifluous boys channeling

518
00:43:22.639 --> 00:43:30.599
this wholesome, angelly temperamentally sound character
and she really did persodify beauty and love

519
00:43:30.599 --> 00:43:32.519
in their purest forms. That was
her role and she did it very well.

520
00:43:32.559 --> 00:43:37.920
And finally we talk about the elephant
man, Ben Clark. He didn't

521
00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:43.360
need prosthetics to win his way to
our hearts. Vocally, artistically, I

522
00:43:43.400 --> 00:43:47.519
thought he excelled from the opening number. He really readily projected vulnerability, fear,

523
00:43:47.639 --> 00:43:52.800
and substance, and again he played
that beautifully. So they, together

524
00:43:52.840 --> 00:43:57.559
with a really talented ensemble, an
accomplished band, they sort of breathed life

525
00:43:57.559 --> 00:44:00.960
and You into a story of oppression
and exile, life and love. And

526
00:44:01.119 --> 00:44:07.960
the dramaturgis by Guy Masterson, strong
direction from Christopher Mitchell and Masterson, and

527
00:44:07.079 --> 00:44:12.320
the choreography. There were some dance
sequences that Eden Reid was responsible for that

528
00:44:12.360 --> 00:44:15.480
I thought that was a treat.
And the spotlighting was really good a feature

529
00:44:15.480 --> 00:44:20.800
of the production. But the staging, I agree Jackie could certainly have been

530
00:44:20.840 --> 00:44:24.079
improved because the band was slightly elevated, and then that was on a stage

531
00:44:24.159 --> 00:44:29.920
left and then stage right at the
same height. You had this level that

532
00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:32.840
was used by actors in certain scenes. But yeah, you're right, much

533
00:44:32.840 --> 00:44:37.440
of the action took place at ground
level. Wouldn't have been a problem in

534
00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:42.239
another theater. And I've got to
be fair here because we saw it on

535
00:44:42.320 --> 00:44:51.000
opening night and I spoke to the
producer and he was really grateful and said

536
00:44:51.000 --> 00:44:53.800
that he would do something about it. So I hope that that. I

537
00:44:53.920 --> 00:45:00.239
don't doubt that if you've put an
elevated platform in that entire area, that

538
00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:04.599
would address that problem. And so
to me, it was a really easy

539
00:45:04.639 --> 00:45:07.480
fix. So, I mean,
it's just I would call it a it's

540
00:45:07.559 --> 00:45:13.039
noteworthy. Obviously we both saw the
same thing, but in the sum total

541
00:45:13.079 --> 00:45:16.920
of it, it's a small,
if somewhat frustrating gripe that could readily be

542
00:45:16.960 --> 00:45:21.000
addressed. Would you agree with that
or not? Well, for me,

543
00:45:21.079 --> 00:45:23.719
it was a big problem because I
didn't see the performance as it should have

544
00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:28.920
been seen. Okay, fair enough, and it was almost it wasn't as

545
00:45:29.239 --> 00:45:34.320
as much visual as verbal, if
you like, because I thought the lyrics

546
00:45:34.360 --> 00:45:38.159
were the strongest part of it.
But I should have been able to see

547
00:45:38.480 --> 00:45:44.719
the cast. Well, it is
a fresh Australian work about which we should

548
00:45:44.719 --> 00:45:47.639
be mighty proud and it deserves a
bigger stage in a worldwide audience. I

549
00:45:47.639 --> 00:45:53.119
can see this going elsewhere. I
can really see this transposing because The Elephant

550
00:45:53.119 --> 00:45:58.760
Man is such a heart stringing,
dipe story and they've really twisted it.

551
00:45:59.440 --> 00:46:01.519
Whether or they'd get the sense of
human maybe they would, maybe they wouldn't.

552
00:46:01.519 --> 00:46:06.280
I think it does. He does
want and need a national audience.

553
00:46:06.320 --> 00:46:10.880
Do you not agree with that?
Not willing to make a judgment on that

554
00:46:10.920 --> 00:46:15.679
one, but why not? I
think so? All right, So look

555
00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:21.000
that that's the marvelous Elephant Man the
musical out. So before you move on,

556
00:46:21.880 --> 00:46:25.519
you in w right with Caul snydery
whipwash, Thank you so much.

557
00:46:25.639 --> 00:46:30.199
Greg. That's yes, I used
to watch that. I loved it.

558
00:46:30.239 --> 00:46:32.360
I really did you enjoy it?
Oh? Yeah, some of them were

559
00:46:32.400 --> 00:46:37.320
quite funny and entertaining. Yeah,
exactly exactly. And Jackie, you're just

560
00:46:37.400 --> 00:46:42.079
about old enough. Did you watch
that or not? Not? No?

561
00:46:43.239 --> 00:46:45.920
No, I watched Gilligan's Island.
Yes, but this is a card too.

562
00:46:46.239 --> 00:46:51.280
Did you have it? Did you
have a disrupted childhood where you weren't

563
00:46:51.280 --> 00:46:57.960
allowed to watch cartoons. That's absolutely
correct. Not earn the Flintstones Zappers around

564
00:46:58.000 --> 00:47:01.360
that time. Yes, I'd watched
the flint Stones, but that must have

565
00:47:01.440 --> 00:47:07.079
been just on the old occasion because
we were allowed to watch one half hour

566
00:47:07.119 --> 00:47:10.599
program before the news went on at
seven o'clock. Yeah, this see news?

567
00:47:10.639 --> 00:47:14.800
That was it? TV was evil? Is that? Is that?

568
00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:19.119
Wow? Okay? And what about
you, Peter the evil one? What

569
00:47:19.199 --> 00:47:22.960
did you want? Why? I
remember? O? Thank you Malad.

570
00:47:23.760 --> 00:47:28.159
I liked a lot of the animations. I especially like projections. Actually,

571
00:47:28.199 --> 00:47:30.880
I think that was a lot of
fun. I agree, I agree,

572
00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:34.199
But my favorite was the was the
flint Stones as well, Greg, I

573
00:47:34.239 --> 00:47:37.280
thought they were fantastic, but I
mean, it's funny. I enjoyed them

574
00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:39.599
at the time. I remember seeing
these shows and I thought, wow,

575
00:47:39.639 --> 00:47:45.599
these are really good. But as
years go by, the fondness is,

576
00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:47.840
if anything, even grown. And
maybe that's just the way it is.

577
00:47:47.840 --> 00:47:52.920
As you get older, you you
you memorialize things that may not have been

578
00:47:52.960 --> 00:47:55.320
quite as good as as you remember
them to be. But anyway, I

579
00:47:55.440 --> 00:48:00.280
like the Looney Tunes, you know, the right running with the nas Well

580
00:48:00.039 --> 00:48:07.199
absolutely. Now let's talk about Berlin. Jackie MC Showroom, which is round

581
00:48:07.239 --> 00:48:12.320
the corner from chapelof Chapel, literally
less than that half a kilometer away anyway.

582
00:48:12.639 --> 00:48:17.039
Joe and and Murray Smith's remarkable insight
or attention to detail, writing prowess

583
00:48:17.159 --> 00:48:23.199
front and center captivating production of Berlin
at this venue. At the MC Showroom,

584
00:48:23.239 --> 00:48:28.000
an Australian called Tom played by Lachlan
Hammel, was just landed in the

585
00:48:28.039 --> 00:48:31.519
German capital. Keen to get to
know the real city rather than just the

586
00:48:31.559 --> 00:48:37.199
tourist offering. He's directed to this
small watering hole where he meets and is

587
00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:43.440
immediately drawn to a local bar worker
called Charlotte played by Georgia Latchford. We're

588
00:48:43.440 --> 00:48:46.199
talking one o'clock in the morning now
and the place has closed. The establishment

589
00:48:46.599 --> 00:48:51.000
just the two of them had her
plays when she's offered him her couch for

590
00:48:51.039 --> 00:48:55.599
the night, so their chat becomes
playful and vigorous. They dance around each

591
00:48:55.599 --> 00:49:00.480
other in an attempt to get to
know each other better. The spark between

592
00:49:00.480 --> 00:49:05.400
them as tangible as they reveal snippets
about themselves. She's a student and writer,

593
00:49:05.800 --> 00:49:09.599
she's keen to become a poet.
He says, he's into industrial espionage

594
00:49:10.199 --> 00:49:14.199
and as Tom tries to get her
into bed. They appear to have similar

595
00:49:14.280 --> 00:49:17.960
musical tastes. She matches him stride
for stride in conversation, she's very very

596
00:49:17.960 --> 00:49:22.920
good at that, and they talk
about their recent dating history. We learned

597
00:49:22.960 --> 00:49:25.960
that her parents separated when she was
only seven years of age. Her father

598
00:49:27.400 --> 00:49:32.159
is a hedge fund guy living in
London. Her mother is a narcissistic sculptor

599
00:49:32.519 --> 00:49:37.840
in bern Now. She was six
when her four year old brother was killed

600
00:49:37.079 --> 00:49:44.519
in a tragic accident after he chased
a ball onto the street. He received

601
00:49:44.639 --> 00:49:49.000
a little windfall after he was involved
in a fatal car grage. I speak

602
00:49:49.039 --> 00:49:54.119
about Tom now we find out that
he is in fact Jewish on his mother's

603
00:49:54.199 --> 00:49:59.280
side, and that he decided to
visit Germany because his great grandfather used to

604
00:49:59.320 --> 00:50:04.440
live there. Then the inevitable happens. But it's once the deed is done

605
00:50:04.440 --> 00:50:07.639
that things change considerably, and that
happens when she catches him out on his

606
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mobile phone, and thereafter the truth
outs. The ugly pasted very much brought

607
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into the present. So you've got
tragedy, exploitation and morality as the resounding

608
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themes. And this, by the
way, was inspired by a family trip

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that Murray's with Karen and Murray Smith
did or took an extraordinary piece of writing.

610
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I thought, sizzling tale of morass
and morality, resplendent with intellectual rigor

611
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that really eats into one's soul.
It causes one to reflect, to think

612
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and feel as the two protagonistscote to
toefort seventy five minutes. It's a lot

613
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of words, a lot of verbiage. Nuance's expressions and pauses that the actors

614
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bring to the production are really important. And what am mat sure top notch

615
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performance by Georgia Latchford. She's got
that down pat word perfect. We saw

616
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you and I both saw the preview
performance. I thought she was outstanding Jackie.

617
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She absolutely is very assured, very
assured, and to the point where

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her intonation and accent German intonation and
accent were I couldn't tell if she actually

619
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was German or no. I saw
you and I both thought the same thing.

620
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After we've got to seek her out
to sit, you know, she

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was having conversation. We would try
to listen in as to whether she was

622
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an Aussi or a native born German. And that's that's the sign of it.

623
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She's a young woman, I probably
what meant to late twenties, I

624
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would imagine. And what a brilliant
career she's got in front of her,

625
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if if this is any guide,
and she and yet even with all the

626
00:51:51.760 --> 00:51:55.880
German accent, we we didn't miss
a word of what she was saying,

627
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clear as a bell, and beautifully
project voice she had, which which was

628
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really important because as you say,
verbal base, Gosh, it was only

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about the talking. There was really
not much actually physically happens part for a

630
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bit of alcohol drinking and putting on
her putting on an LP to play.

631
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Well, there's not there's an't little
little little love and romance, but there

632
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most of the time. You're quite
right. I mean she really inhabited her

633
00:52:24.840 --> 00:52:28.920
character with poise and polish. But
Lochlan Hamill, I mean, there's no

634
00:52:28.960 --> 00:52:32.199
doubt he's got boyish charm, which
is what he's carried to is infused with

635
00:52:32.519 --> 00:52:37.400
and he brings Tom's yin to Charlotte's
yang, and that there's much more in

636
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this again than at first meets the
eye. As a piece of work,

637
00:52:40.000 --> 00:52:46.559
hamil Is readily channels the mood swings
that that sort of changing countenance that's essential

638
00:52:46.599 --> 00:52:50.800
to this wire work. When we
saw it, I thought he could slowed

639
00:52:50.840 --> 00:52:53.519
down a tad and led his words
an intonation breathe that. That was my

640
00:52:53.840 --> 00:52:59.559
take on it. What would you
have said? Yes, he could have,

641
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But there again, he was very
genuinely inhabiting the character of a young

642
00:53:05.119 --> 00:53:09.000
guy who was a little bit nervous. He just made her he was.

643
00:53:09.119 --> 00:53:12.719
We know, he was a fish, bit of a fish out of water,

644
00:53:13.280 --> 00:53:16.880
and when you're nervous you do talk
more quickly, and so it was

645
00:53:16.960 --> 00:53:22.559
quite quite fair that he did well. No, I thought he did a

646
00:53:22.599 --> 00:53:25.840
good job. He brought out our
character to Tom very well. Yeah,

647
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I mean both he and Latchford particularly
strong in the game of seduction. I

648
00:53:30.320 --> 00:53:35.239
thought that was terrific and in stating
their respective positions in character when it counts.

649
00:53:35.239 --> 00:53:38.880
So the director's Eric at Chestnut crafted
a really fine adaptation of Berlin.

650
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Great little venue, isn't it the
MC show Room. It's ultimate place,

651
00:53:44.960 --> 00:53:49.039
very vic on there till the thirty
of of April, So folks please go

652
00:53:49.079 --> 00:53:52.639
along and see this. It is
a really, really worthwhile show. Just

653
00:53:52.679 --> 00:53:54.199
out of interest. If you were
to score out out of ten, Jackie,

654
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what would you have given Berlin.
I'd give it a good seven and

655
00:53:58.119 --> 00:54:00.840
a half. I reckon it's higher
than that. I really do. I

656
00:54:00.840 --> 00:54:06.360
think it's well worth seeing, folks, and please young people on the go.

657
00:54:06.599 --> 00:54:12.159
You can really see where they're the
future of Australian theater and entertainment is

658
00:54:12.480 --> 00:54:15.000
with a show like Berlin. So
go and see Berlin, go and see

659
00:54:15.000 --> 00:54:19.599
the Marvelous Elephant Man, and consider
some of the films that we're spoken about.

660
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We've got to go, folks,
So thank you very much, Peter,

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Greg and Jackie, or Jackie,
Greg and Peter, in whichever order

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00:54:25.800 --> 00:54:29.960
you wish. We'll do it all
again next week, first on Film and

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Entertainment. Signing off,