Sept. 27, 2024

S03E18: Speak No Evil: James McAvoy's Sinister Transformation

S03E18: Speak No Evil: James McAvoy's Sinister Transformation

**Host:** Alex First
**Guest Critics:** Greg King, Peter Krause, Jaqui Hammerton
**Episode Summary:**
In this engaging episode, Alex First is joined by Greg King, Peter Krause, and Jaqui Hammerton to delve into the latest film releases. Greg King...

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Season 3

**Host:** Alex First
**Guest Critics:** Greg King, Peter Krause, Jaqui Hammerton
**Episode Summary:**
In this engaging episode, Alex First is joined by Greg King, Peter Krause, and Jaqui Hammerton to delve into the latest film releases. Greg King begins with a detailed analysis of the psychological horror thriller *Speak No Evil*, starring James McAvoy. The conversation touches on McAvoy's performance, the film's tension, and comparisons with the original Danish version. The episode also features a review of the family film *Harold and the Purple Crayon*, where the critics discuss its appeal to different age groups and the effectiveness of its blend of animation and live-action. Finally, Greg King reflects on the French biopic *Bonard, Pierre and Marta*, exploring the complex relationship between the post-impressionist painter and his wife.
00:00:00 " Alex says he went to see speak no evil just because James McAvoy starred
00:00:58 " Peter says James McAvoy is capable of playing charming but also nasty
00:01:28 " American family befriend British family while on holiday in Italy
00:06:53 " I thought the children were particularly good. Both the boy and the girl. Really, really good
00:07:56 " Gregory King: The ending of this film is much darker than the original
00:10:03 " Alex: Why do the Americans have a predilection for remakes
00:15:12 " Are you conscious of reading when you're watching foreign language film
00:20:06 " Peter says english language version of speak no evil conforms to Hollywood stereotypes
00:23:16 " What's your favourite colour? Peter, what colour do you like
00:26:39 " Jackie: I like black and red. And I also like orange. You can guess, Jackie
00:27:29 " Harold and the purple crayon is a charming family comedy
00:32:01 " Jacqueline: The combination of animation and live action works really effectively
00:33:56 " It's got a PG rating. What do you read into it, Greg
00:38:19 " Peter Canada says the film was pitched as a young audience to develop imagination
00:42:26 " Peter McCain was intrigued by the biopic about French painter Pierre Bonhard
00:48:14 " Peter Martin reviews French film about impressionist painter Pierre Bonard
00:51:09 " The film is largely based on a true story and not on a delusional ranting
**Highlights:**
- **Speak No Evil:** The critics explore the psychological horror thriller featuring James McAvoy. Jaqui appreciates McAvoy's performance but finds the film more comedic than scary. Peter and Greg discuss the differences between the Hollywood remake and the original Danish film, noting the diluted ending in the remake.
- **Harold and the Purple Crayon:** Greg King reviews this family film, debating its appeal to various age groups. Greg enjoys the fantasy elements, while Peter and Jaqui feel the film fails to capture the simplicity and charm of the original picture book.
- **Bonard, Pierre and Marta:** The critics delve into this French biopic, examining the complex relationship between the painter and his wife. Alex praises the film's intelligent narrative and beautiful cinematography, while Peter appreciates its portrayal of the artistic lifestyle.
This episode of First on Film and Entertainment offers a rich mix of film reviews and thoughtful discussions. From the psychological tension in *Speak No Evil* to the imaginative world of *Harold and the Purple Crayon* and the historical depth of *Bonard, Pierre and Marta*, the critics provide nuanced insights into these diverse films. Join us next week for more in-depth analysis and lively conversations.
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First on Still and Entertainment, A very Good day to

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All with Peter Grouse, Greg King, Jackie Hamerton with me

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Alex first and we are going to start off straight

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away with a movie that has a demomic looking James

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McAvoy in it. Tell you what, He's a mighty fine actor,

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isn't he, Jackie? Tell you he's a wonderful, wonderful He's

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a character actor that gets into character pretty quickly and

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didn't speak no evil. He is evil personified, correct is?

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I've liked Jim ever since he was the fawn in

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the Nannia film and speak no Evil. Listen to film

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I would normally go to because it's you know, it's

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promoted as a scary horror film, but I went to

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see it just because he's in it. So yes, I

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love James McAvoy.

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Yeah, psychological horror thriller and in a good of you

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just for the sake of this program, you've gone along

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to see it. So we'll get your views at a moment. Well,

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let's get your views, Peter. James McAvoy as an actor,

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where does he rate?

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He's pretty good, Who's been in a few m night

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Shime Marlin films, but he tends to eat the scenery

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a little bit.

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Ah okay, Greg, your views.

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He's quite capable. Actually, he's capable of playing charming but

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also nasty. And he's also in the roommakes of The

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X Men, you know, playing the young direct male savior.

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Well here he is the manipulative husband and father character.

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And you've got the basis here of an American family

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meeting and befriending a British family while they're holidaying in Italy,

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and soon thereafter, the Americans are invited to spend a

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weekend at the seemingly idyllic country estate of the Brits.

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But what starts out with promise ends up as a

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twisted nightmare. So let me go into a little bit

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of detail. Ben Dalton played by Scoop McNairy and his

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wife Louise Mackenzie Davis, along with their eleven year old

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daughter Agnes played by Alex West, moved to London for

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a job opportunity and unfortunately that did not work out.

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They still decided to stay on. There's tension in the relationship,

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but Louise thinks a weekend away might be just the ticket,

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and when they arrive at the isolated rustic home of

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the Brits. They're warmly greeted by Paddy played by James McAvoy,

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his wife Kiara Aisling Franciosi. They have a mute son

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called Aunt, played by Dan Hoff. Paddy Well, he's got

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this larger than life persona. He's loud, his effusive. He's

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an alpha male, let's face it, who dominates Kiara Well,

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she appears to be subjugated by him. An ant, tentative

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and scared. Separate incidents make Louise feel uncomfortable and she's

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keen to leave early. Bear in mind, though running again

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for the weekend. Only a failed attempt at doing so

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sees the stakes ratted it up, and it's just a

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matter of time before the American family is subjected to

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a vortex of evil in which their lives are in peril.

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It's been written and directed by James Watkins, who did

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The Woman in Black, and it's based on a Danish

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film that came out a couple of years ago. So

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an air of unease permeates the movie is the tension

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builds leading up to an edge of your seat final

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half hour. That's when it really comes to bite, and

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in fact, the plot takes some time to develop, although

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it's clear no good can come of the outbursts that

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infuse the storyline. It's a cleverly, cleverly woven tale of

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a twisted mind. Macavoy's demented facial expressions of what really

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stand out to me. They're the killer, pun fully intended,

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and there's a disingenuousness about his persona that is horribly attractive,

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again deliberately used to pun there the secondary plot line

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concerning the tensions in American family add a bit of heft,

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and then there's the predicament of the English family's son,

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but Ckenzie Davis. While paints Louise as a competent but

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wary individual, Scoot McNerney gives voice to a man with

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issues to work through. And I also appreciated the understanding

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developed between the children, well realized by Alex West and

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Dan Hoff. I thought syl was really well shot, often

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with a claustrophobic feel by Tim Morris Jones, and he

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worked with the director Watkins on The Woman in Black.

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It's quite a wild and intense ride. As I say,

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it takes a bit of time to develop. It has

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sting and bite, and it leaves an imprint. That's what

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you want of a psychologis horror thriller? What do you reckon? Jagie?

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Oh? So like a category of psychological thriller. But towards

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the end, I found it more comedic than scar I

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never I mean, I didn't even find it scary. I

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might say. I think maybe the characters were just that

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little bit too exaggerated. And I thought the towards the end,

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where the oh shall we say, the real action happens,

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where the real physical threats come out, tended to be funny.

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And I thought it was deliberately funny to kind of

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break the tension, because I certainly laughed.

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Yeah, I found totally opposite to you. I'm not surprised

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by that, because you are racalci from individual like better

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grouse is so to be Alex.

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So it's good that I achieved that.

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You play it at all. You weren't saying I want

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to get clear, No, sirits at.

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All, No, not at all, because I knew you could

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tell straight off who was the bad character. Well, I

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mean you knew that before you arrived at the sinnight,

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so you knew that that was going to ramp up.

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I thought the one it ramped up was actually quite good.

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You know, there was.

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This excruciating, creepy awkwardness with the inappropriate comments and the

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way his personality started to just just sort of drift

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out and then and then he'd pull back, and everything

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he said had had quite a logical explanation for why

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he'd say it, So of course you start doubting yourself. Well,

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the characters started doubting themselves that, oh no, actually he's fine.

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It's me who's seen things where there's not a problem, until,

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of course we know that there is a problem. I

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thought the children were particularly good, yeah, nearly really good

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in it, both the boy and the girl and and

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the girl. And I also thought the secondary the couple

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Mackenzie Davison Scoop mcnery that that couple, their characters were

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really well drawn, a little bit unusual. She was she

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she had a good strength to her, and he was

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a bit of a how do you say? It was

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absolutely which which worked really well with the theme of

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the story of the.

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Are you saying that in real life that would work

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well as well, Jacqueline, I'm.

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Not saying that real life in a film.

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I just want to know you being a strong willed

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woman yourself. So there you go. I wondered whether you

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basked in the glory of that, those dual characters that

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was all oh whatever, all right, Gregory King. Have you

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seen Speak No Evil?

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And I've also seen the original Danish version, But you well,

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and the ending of this film, the ending the original

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film was much darker and bleaker without a happy ending.

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To this film.

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This one, it's fine, but the ending here is more

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u typical Hollywood thriller, keeps pushing the boundaries and putting

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in that claustrophobic accent as you said there, but there's

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a bit of a change there. But James McAvoy made

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for a preepy character there who would go from charming

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one minute, switching to sort of a bit more malevolent,

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bit more menacing, outrageous other moments. I do agree with

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Jackie and what she said, and you said the two

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kids there were fantastic. They were really good and believable.

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The scene where is nice to the farmhouse had that

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claustrophobic in that sphere, but the murder of film was

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able to change and keep you off balance all the

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way through it. But as I said, the ending here

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went for a typical cathartic Hollywood ending rather than you

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bleep original left a bit of a nasty ass to

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taste in the.

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Mouth, which I must admit I'm not wishing ill, but yeah,

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I kind of wish that the Hollywood ending wouldn't necessarily

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play out in most films that we see I think

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real life. Unfortunately, you know, horrible. There have been some

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horrible stories this week, and we don't need to go

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into too much detail about it, but where things don't

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work out. So yeah, interesting observation. Greek. So the name

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in case anybody wants to sort of check out the

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Danish film if you can see it somewhere, it's called

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stern g A E s T E r n E.

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Peter Craft ex green at MYFF under the name of

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Speak Evil though Oh okay, terrific.

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All right, well it's good to note. So sorry, what

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do you say it's screening? It's screen do you mean?

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I screened at my a few couple of years ago.

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Ah, I see, I'm not sure we'd see it today, Peter,

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any ideas.

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No, but it probably will turn up on World Movies.

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So this Danish film, as Greg has said, was much

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darker and it's only a couple of years old. And

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why the Americans have this predilection for remaking films not

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in the English language in English and then also watering

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them down so that they lose the original impact is

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beyond me, because I was really quite bored by this film,

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partly because the original Serial Killer, notion of James McAvoy

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and his family's characters and the abuse of children, which

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are all suggested in the original Danish film, very much

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absent from this English language remake.

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What was the Golly? There was a film a number

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of years ago which I think in both English or

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maybe they didn't, about children and children unfortunately, perishing et cetera,

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et cetera in a remote farmhouse. It's so frustrating. It

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really chilled me to the core. I think they did

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make an English language film out of it as well.

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It's not I mean what you were saying, Peter, though

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there are examples where they I know, it doesn't work

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all the time, but the Girl with the dragon tattoo,

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they did that in both European version and American. I

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thought both of them were strong. Did you not think that?

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I thought the original was still superior. The American version

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again was slightly watered down and lost some of its

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original impetus from.

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The really what about You? Greg? I mean that to

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me is a good example where both films were good.

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Yeah a few times. There is that femin the tea

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to the Luke Besson film that John Banham remade. It

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was actually framed for frame remake, but still like something

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of the original. But on the down side, one of

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my favorite French films was The Intouchables.

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That that was a lovely Yet the Americans remate with

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Brian Cranston and one of my least favorite actors, Kevin Hart.

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When they started up beyond belief there, it's just what's

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whatever made the visual work? Now, I'm with Peter, I

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don't know why sometimes with a marathons steel, I have

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to remake a foreign language film, even frame by frame,

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rather than just release the original with sub flodels and

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hope for the best.

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But there's when you say hope for the best, that's

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the reason Green and and Peter that you know.

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The original the original film worked for a reason, and

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by softening the ending or changing the inning, or going

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for a more cathartic ending, it doesn't work. Softens what

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I don't disagree with what your collective thoughts are on this.

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people will just refuse to go and see a foreign

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language film. They want to hear it in English.

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And there's nothing wrong with giving it a go, you know,

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and if they have a reason, maybe times have changed

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in twenty years or whatever. Maybe times have changed and

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there's a good reason to adapt what the originals. But

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I think Alex, you're right in The Girl with the

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Dragon Tattoo, and you mentioned that because it stands out

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as being one of the very rare cessens in translation

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if you like, you know, so to speak to an

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American version.

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But I mean, you know, Jackie, I don't know whether

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you've got friends like this, but I've got friends who

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simply say we're not going to see a foreign language film.

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I think it's It frustrates me because at time I'm

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really going to recommend things to people, especially you know,

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friends of yours. You want to sort of say, we'll

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go along and see this film. It's amazing, and Alex.

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You know, we're not all the same people in this world,

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and some people simply see reading the subtitles as actually

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hard work. They just want to sit back and have

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the film roll over them. So they're just I mean,

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you know, I'm not interested in going.

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but let me pick it up as a as a

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talking point. What I find And it's only me and

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similarly or not. I find that if you're into a movie,

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whether you're reading or not, you don't even realize you're

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reading after a period of time, and it doesn't take

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a lot if you're if you get into something, you're

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you're so involved, you're enveloped by the plot, by the narrative,

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then you're not even conscious of it. Do you find

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the same thing?

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Well, yes, yet I'm going to the film because I'm

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going to talk about it with you on the radio.

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My friend who maybe finds the reading of the hard work.

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He's gone to a film because she wants to sit

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back and have a chill night with the boyfriend. Okay,

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different motivation for gold.

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But sorry, that wasn't the question. The question was if

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you are reading a movie you Jackie Hamilton, are you

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conscious if you're into the plot, that you're reading it

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anymore or not?

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Probably not sure? Well, actually yes, it depends if I

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can say it depends.

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If it's give me three possible answers here, right, yes, yes,

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make double wine.

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I'm thinking on the flight here, I'm thinking if it's

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French or German, because I'd studied those as languages. I

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actually quite enjoy testing myself as to the vocabulary. It's

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in the subtitles as to whether I'm understanding the French

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at the same time as I'm reading it, So I

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have to put my hand up and say, yes, I do.

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I am conscious of reading it, and so I'm watching

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it on another level. If you like testing my own

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language skills.

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What about you, Peter?

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You who see Russian and I don't tend to do that.

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Peter, what's your thoughts about reading?

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Do you are you conscious that you are reading to me?

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I just just think well of ducks back. You certainly

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notice it in the first few seconds, but once you're

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indo it, you don't anythink it's about.

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I agree with you, it's I think people have moved

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on and with the rise of world movies, with a

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number of foreign language films, that have achieved Oscar's, etcetera.

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Just thinking of the Korean and Japanese cinema that's doing

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very well. Indeed, with the English subtitles, I don't think

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that's an impediment anymore. For most people. It's about the story,

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it's about characters. So it doesn't bother me at all.

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I'm just I've got to sell to you a story.

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But my father was a translator and interpreter, and it

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was quite amazing. He spoke, readen, whatever whatever, five languages,

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and I saw him in a work environment. He was

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an accountant. I saw him change without blinking an eyelid

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from one language to another, to a third to a fourth.

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I mean, that's a real skill set. I wish that,

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you know, I struggle with English. I wish that I

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had art of that. And that's that's part of the

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European mentality because so many Europeans, and my father was

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born in Austria, so many people have many languages. My

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mother had three as well, so it's yeah, I mean,

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I don't imagine, I've got no idea, but I imagine

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if you're living in Europe, you don't think twice about it.

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Exactly, And it's so interesting. You said that because my

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father was also born in Austria.

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Okay, so in he spoke a number of languages. No,

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it was really only German, okay, and Greek? What about

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you were your thoughts about? You know, do you are

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you conscious of reading when you're seeing a foreign language film?

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Not so much.

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No, I know I'm reading subtle and everything. But I'm

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all show letting you feel wash over me as well.

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So yeah, and you pick up a bit of the language,

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you should go along.

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Well, yes, I suppose, I mean. But the funny thing

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is the only thing that bothers me is when there's

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a spelling mistake, Jackie, like the wrong letter is used

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or whatever. Can't they get that right? It's sort of

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it's very funny. In fact, I've got to tell you,

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folks it a story that you sent me a It

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was just brilliant. The Hugh Jackman at the Oscars. What

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year was it, Jackie, yesterday?

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A little two thousand and nine, I think, Aleck, yeah, two.

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Thousand and nine. And did you notice how it had

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the subtitle? I don't know why it's subtitles on it. Golly,

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there was a lot wrong with the subtitles. Did you

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notice that when you were.

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Some of them are automatically generated, so so I you

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can soon tell when subtitles are automatically generated on a

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like a you know, a tictok or a you know,

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just on a clip. But it's obviously I shouldn't be

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for a film that going to a movie.

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It's funny in a film, there shouldn't be. But another story,

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another war story here. Somebody sent me said to me,

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I'm going to send you an AI generated story, and

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I was a bit wary about it. They sent it

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to me and it definitely read like I generated story.

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So we're still some way away from being, you know,

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seamless in terms of I'm not saying AI can't generate

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some decent yarns. But firstly, factually they're offering correct and secondly,

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the writing leaves a lot to be desired. But about

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twenty minutes ago, you were talking about Speak No Evil.

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Please give me some further thoughts.

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All right, well, just to conclude my review, the English

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language version of Speak No Evil goes off the rails

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in the last half hour and conforms to the typical

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Hollywood stereotypes, and then we can see where the movie

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is heading. Whereas the original was darker and had a

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lot more to say about evil in families, and I

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wish I could speak more evil of that original film

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because that was such a superior film, so very disappointing

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this English language remake.

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That's interesting. I hadn't seen the original Shtern, and having

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heard you both speak about it, Greg and you, I

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would really much like to see it. I also read,

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I don't know whether the Jackie you read a pretty

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distressing piece in the yesterday or the day before about

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Grace Tame, the former Australian of the Year, and she

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talked about having to leave her small hometown because of

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the evil that was perpetrated upon her, which I found

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extremely distressing reading. Did you you see that piece or not?

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Got a left lengthy piece yesterday? Okay, So look, I

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think I'm going to give it the high mark because

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even though you know, I found I waited too long.

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I was sort of thinking, well, when's it going to

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ramp up a little bit? I'm going to give to

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Speak No Evil an eight out of ten. It's rate

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at em. It runs for one hundred and ten minutes,

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and I didn't have anything to compare it to, so Jackie,

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what are you giving it?

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I actually think a lot of people will like it.

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We're quite critical of us, but a lot of people

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who just want to go for an entertainment. I mean,

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you know, they'll have fun. Not quite for me, I

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gave it a six.

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And a half to seven, six and a half to seven.

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All right, Well, I presume both of you the rest

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are going to give it a lower score. So Greg,

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what about you? What what are you going to give?

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Speak No Evil?

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Even though it's the inning, he's a bit compromised from

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the original. If you're going to do it six to

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six and a half?

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Oh, okay, that's good, sir. So come on, mister raclcon trant,

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what do you give Beta? It's not a movie anybody

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should ever there's three of mankind things like that.

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Yes, not quite, but I give it a racalcitrant five

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out of ten, a bear pass.

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You can't be a little bit more generous? No, okay,

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five out of ten. Wow? But but do you take

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Checkie's point that there will be people who will enjoy

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this who haven't seen Because there'll be a lot of

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people out there who won't have seen the original.

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There will be people who'll enjoy anything. It doesn't matter

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what the film is, You'll always get her.

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But it wasn't the kind of response I was hoping for.

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dot a. Now, Harold and the Purple Crayon. Now, Jackie,

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this is a family film, the child's film. You usually

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give children's films a ten out of ten. Don't you

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no comment? Jackie hang on as she disappeared altogether. Probably

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I didn't even realize that.

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Well, you can't hear me, but I'm still here.

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Oh. I don't know whether you were speaking or whether

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you will you make and you're making hand signals?

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Were you?

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I was actually speaking, but for some reason I just

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didn't never mind. I was saying that that jokers warm

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thin and no, I'm quite happy to judge a film.

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You know how it book by its yeah, yeah, yeah,

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all of that stuff. Uh, okay, this is based on

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a book. So I see you donulge book brides cover?

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Thank you nice?

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Yes, this has gone crazy yep.

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Yeah, well hang on, it's a crazy film, you know.

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Like wouldn't be great to be able to draw something

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and draw yourself out of difficulty when you get into strive.

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That's exactly what the key character does. And with the

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purple crayon, no less? Why purple? But in fact, I've

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got to say that I have a member of my

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family who whose favorite color is purple. That's a nice

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starting point. What do you think of purple as a color? Jackie? Fine,

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that's not acceptable? Fine? Okay? Oh gee, you know excite?

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Hey, why not purple? Well?

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I would have thought enticing, intoxicating, something a little bit

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different left of center. There'd be expressions you use. What

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expression would you use? Pse for purple?

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Oh?

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Look, I think it's quite acceptable. But just like any

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other color, we all have our Well.

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Where if you want, what's your preference, Peter? What color

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do you like? I like blue right, as in navy

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or as in electric But I don't.

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Know, I haven't plugged one in, but but probably electric.

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Electric blue for Peter? Who would have thunk it? This

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is Peter without walls in the home, right and unless

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it blue a song boy icehouse, thank you very much,

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very nice and too so. I like it Greek. What's

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your favorite color?

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Blue?

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Really? And what blue? Electric? Or the sky? Blue or navy?

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I don't have any preference on the spectrum.

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Okay, as long as it's on the spectrum, you're happy

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to have blue. I like it. At Jackie, what color?

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Come on? Pick up one? Jackie disappeared? What is going

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on with you?

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She's out of plugged Jackie's Yes, this is Jackie unplugged.

446
00:26:10.279 --> 00:26:16.440
She really has disappeared. I think we've offended her sense

447
00:26:16.480 --> 00:26:17.000
of color.

448
00:26:17.119 --> 00:26:22.079
No, no, I just I literally dropped out, literally dropped out.

449
00:26:22.119 --> 00:26:24.839
But I'm here. And blue is the color?

450
00:26:25.799 --> 00:26:28.119
Is it now? Which which sort of blue for you?

451
00:26:29.160 --> 00:26:32.920
We've had electric, neutral, blue, and say, I don't mind.

452
00:26:32.960 --> 00:26:36.960
I like baby blue, powdered blue, cornflower blue, navy blue,

453
00:26:37.359 --> 00:26:38.359
electric blue?

454
00:26:39.000 --> 00:26:39.920
Okay? All right?

455
00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:44.000
And can you you can like and I also like orange.

456
00:26:44.119 --> 00:26:47.640
You like red and orange? Okay? Red, orange and blue? Okay?

457
00:26:48.359 --> 00:26:53.079
Can you get you can guess Jackie my favorite color red,

458
00:26:53.920 --> 00:26:57.640
black and red. Absolutely they go well that they're like

459
00:26:57.720 --> 00:27:00.319
the perfect dinner, the perfect you're.

460
00:27:00.200 --> 00:27:01.559
Seeing them on Grand Final day.

461
00:27:01.559 --> 00:27:05.200
Will you thank you very much? I'm being hurt and

462
00:27:05.319 --> 00:27:08.440
offended at the present time. Yes, that we're on the

463
00:27:08.480 --> 00:27:11.440
way up. This is what I spoke to Richmond supporter

464
00:27:11.519 --> 00:27:13.559
during the week who said there's only one way for

465
00:27:13.640 --> 00:27:15.960
us to go up, and I said, no, there's also out.

466
00:27:16.359 --> 00:27:19.400
He had the nineteenth team is coming into the competition.

467
00:27:19.400 --> 00:27:21.319
What he was at Grege twenty twenty eight or something

468
00:27:21.440 --> 00:27:24.240
with Tasmaia and nineteen is not a good number for

469
00:27:24.240 --> 00:27:27.039
a number of football teams, so Richmond can go out.

470
00:27:27.319 --> 00:27:29.839
I don't think they liked my response anyway. Harold and

471
00:27:29.880 --> 00:27:33.279
the Purple Crayon PG rated ninety minutes. Isaaid, so what

472
00:27:33.400 --> 00:27:36.240
if a cartoon world turned into real life? And that's

473
00:27:36.279 --> 00:27:39.440
the premise at the heart of this movie, because Harold's

474
00:27:39.440 --> 00:27:43.400
a manifestation of this vivid imagination of a writer called

475
00:27:43.640 --> 00:27:48.480
Crockett Johnson who wrote the book, and he's the character

476
00:27:48.559 --> 00:27:53.200
who well, he along with his buddies, Harold and his

477
00:27:53.200 --> 00:27:56.759
buddies Moose and Porcupine. They they're the two friends who

478
00:27:56.759 --> 00:28:00.559
are obviously a moose and a porcupine. They live their

479
00:28:00.599 --> 00:28:06.119
lives in this delightful, adventurous bubble and they can effortlessly

480
00:28:06.240 --> 00:28:10.559
get out of any predicament courtesy of Harald's magic purple crayon.

481
00:28:10.759 --> 00:28:14.160
In other words, when they are in strife, he literally

482
00:28:14.359 --> 00:28:17.519
draws them out of trouble. Very nice, indeed. And when

483
00:28:17.559 --> 00:28:20.920
Harold grows up, he speaks with the narrator of the book,

484
00:28:21.480 --> 00:28:24.240
you know, the or the narrator of the film being

485
00:28:24.279 --> 00:28:28.880
the book's author, expressing a desire to experience the real world,

486
00:28:28.920 --> 00:28:33.960
so to transpose from cartoon characters into a physical reality.

487
00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:39.400
But then the narrator, who describes himself as an old man, disappears,

488
00:28:40.319 --> 00:28:45.000
and Harold draws a door into the real world to

489
00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:47.839
try to find him, and soon enough he's joined by

490
00:28:47.880 --> 00:28:52.799
Mouse and Porcupine and they undertake this grand adventure with

491
00:28:53.160 --> 00:28:58.000
their animated manifestations being turned into flesh and blood. And

492
00:28:58.079 --> 00:29:01.240
involved in that are Harry, who's the mother of a

493
00:29:01.240 --> 00:29:05.640
boy named Mel who has an imaginary friend. You know

494
00:29:05.680 --> 00:29:09.759
how kids have imasury friends, so does Melt. And there's

495
00:29:09.799 --> 00:29:15.240
also involved in this plot a devious librarian called Gary Natwick.

496
00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:19.599
And it all starts when, having drawn an imaginary purple

497
00:29:19.720 --> 00:29:24.000
bicycle in the physical world and with Moose as his passenger,

498
00:29:24.599 --> 00:29:28.960
Harold is hit by Terry's car, and in no time

499
00:29:29.359 --> 00:29:32.599
Terry and her son Mel are drawn into the chaotic

500
00:29:32.640 --> 00:29:36.799
world of Harold etl as he tries to find his

501
00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:41.880
old man right, he tries to find the person who

502
00:29:42.039 --> 00:29:47.200
is the narrator. So it's a creative work of writers

503
00:29:47.279 --> 00:29:52.119
David Guron and Michael Handelman, and the pair found success

504
00:29:52.119 --> 00:29:54.880
with Dinner for Schmucks and Knight at the Museum, Secret

505
00:29:55.039 --> 00:29:58.559
of the Tomb, And the question is how far does

506
00:29:58.599 --> 00:30:01.920
one go with imagine a in a family film like this.

507
00:30:02.400 --> 00:30:05.039
It's good humor, no question about that. I really enjoyed

508
00:30:05.039 --> 00:30:08.599
most of it. My slight reservation came though, because I

509
00:30:09.000 --> 00:30:12.079
thought some sequences landed better than others, and I suppose

510
00:30:12.079 --> 00:30:16.200
that's the case with a lot of comedy. I thought

511
00:30:16.319 --> 00:30:18.440
the ending kind of went a little bit too far,

512
00:30:18.599 --> 00:30:22.119
but a sort of a dream sequence at the end there.

513
00:30:22.839 --> 00:30:26.160
I appreciated the naivete I appreciated many of the site gags.

514
00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:28.160
The actors. I thought they did a good job with

515
00:30:28.160 --> 00:30:30.359
the material with which they have to work, and they

516
00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:34.160
play their parts as kind of wide eyed innocence. Zachary

517
00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:37.039
Levi or Levy? Is it Levy or Levi? Peter you know,

518
00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:41.599
is it okay? Zachary Levi, Well, he plays Harold. He's

519
00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:44.920
the glue that bones the production together. Tanya Reynolds is

520
00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:48.559
a hoot as Paul Cupine really enjoyed her and Lil

521
00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:52.559
Lil rel Howery is a lot of fun as Moose

522
00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:56.960
enjoys that role. I really liked Zuey de Chan as

523
00:30:57.079 --> 00:31:02.319
the mum Derry and Benjamin. But Tani is really impressive

524
00:31:02.359 --> 00:31:04.240
as her Son. I thought he did a really good job.

525
00:31:04.559 --> 00:31:08.440
The tone in the voiceover, wasn't that pitch perfect? A

526
00:31:08.519 --> 00:31:12.359
great voice of Alfred Molina. And we should remember the

527
00:31:12.599 --> 00:31:17.119
passing of James Earl Jones, one of the great voices,

528
00:31:17.160 --> 00:31:20.240
one of the great actors, and isn't he one of

529
00:31:20.319 --> 00:31:22.480
the only ones is one? What is it to Tony

530
00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:28.839
and Emmy an Oscar dadi dadi dao. Yes, yes, he

531
00:31:28.880 --> 00:31:31.920
got a lot, No I know, so what does he

532
00:31:31.960 --> 00:31:32.599
got stand for?

533
00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:38.160
Emmy, Grammy, Remi and Tony thank you very much, well done?

534
00:31:38.279 --> 00:31:42.279
But what very sad? But he lived ninety three to

535
00:31:42.359 --> 00:31:44.960
ninety three years of age. And you know that he

536
00:31:45.119 --> 00:31:50.519
sold he sold his voice talent I think a year ago.

537
00:31:51.119 --> 00:31:54.079
So his voice is going to live on in a

538
00:31:54.160 --> 00:31:57.920
sort of an AI creation the world, the future world.

539
00:31:57.960 --> 00:32:00.279
I think that's brilliant. I think that because I loved

540
00:32:00.279 --> 00:32:03.160
his voice. It was terrific. But Alfred Molina is pitch

541
00:32:03.240 --> 00:32:06.759
perfect the tone in his voice over for Harold and

542
00:32:06.799 --> 00:32:09.400
the Purple Crayon. So by and large, the combination I

543
00:32:09.400 --> 00:32:12.960
thought of animation and live action works really effectively, especially

544
00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:16.920
when purple crayon sketches become real and it's sort of

545
00:32:16.920 --> 00:32:20.279
fish out of water story. The director is Carlos Saldana,

546
00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:24.240
and Carlos adds a bit of flair and frivolity to

547
00:32:24.599 --> 00:32:27.839
the movie. What do you think, Jacqueline, Harold and the

548
00:32:27.839 --> 00:32:28.839
Purple Carraon.

549
00:32:29.759 --> 00:32:31.759
I'm so sorry it didn't do it for me. I

550
00:32:31.839 --> 00:32:34.759
know the book and once I read the book to

551
00:32:34.799 --> 00:32:38.319
my children when they were young. But we went through

552
00:32:38.359 --> 00:32:43.519
the picture book together and it was absolutely delightful and

553
00:32:43.559 --> 00:32:45.000
it had a lot to say, but it was a

554
00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:48.920
very simple picture book and it had a simple theme

555
00:32:49.079 --> 00:32:53.000
to it. Whereas this film talk about films going to

556
00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:57.960
the Hollywood edge, this really did. Just it's a shame

557
00:32:57.960 --> 00:33:00.319
that it's got the same name as the book because

558
00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:01.839
it really isn't anything.

559
00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:04.240
Well, but isn't it the starting wone for the film

560
00:33:04.599 --> 00:33:08.160
hist your premise, Yes, yeah, you.

561
00:33:08.119 --> 00:33:12.960
Know, way off with you know, villains and dragons and anyway,

562
00:33:13.119 --> 00:33:16.400
there's some clever things in it. I quite like that

563
00:33:16.519 --> 00:33:19.920
wild West scene where they have to shall we say,

564
00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:23.559
draw their weapons, and their weapons are everything from the

565
00:33:23.640 --> 00:33:26.519
you know, the lasso and the acts and the slinky

566
00:33:26.680 --> 00:33:29.359
and that sort of thing, and they had the wild

567
00:33:29.400 --> 00:33:31.880
West music going, and there were quite a few little

568
00:33:32.480 --> 00:33:35.440
cute things going on there. The boy in the film

569
00:33:35.519 --> 00:33:40.200
was particularly good, but I didn't really take to the characters,

570
00:33:40.519 --> 00:33:44.519
and I didn't really get the age group. This was

571
00:33:44.680 --> 00:33:48.400
full because there were a couple of very scary things

572
00:33:48.519 --> 00:33:53.000
in Harold and the Purple Crayon, specifically that Spye the

573
00:33:53.119 --> 00:33:55.480
fly creature that was scary.

574
00:33:55.519 --> 00:33:58.319
I agree, But but anyhow, it's got a PG rating. So

575
00:33:58.599 --> 00:34:00.720
what is parental guide mean to you?

576
00:34:00.799 --> 00:34:01.000
Jack?

577
00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:03.200
About ten year old, nine year old something like that?

578
00:34:03.559 --> 00:34:07.480
I would have thought, oh no, no, no PG.

579
00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:10.199
You'd want it to be for five and up, six

580
00:34:10.280 --> 00:34:11.880
and up PG.

581
00:34:12.599 --> 00:34:16.119
That's parental guidance. I mean, well, that's interesting. I don't know,

582
00:34:16.119 --> 00:34:17.840
what what do you read and do it? Greg? If

583
00:34:17.880 --> 00:34:21.119
you see PG, what have you seen Harold and purple

584
00:34:21.159 --> 00:34:22.000
grown or not yet?

585
00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:24.840
I had I was there last Saturday when you were there, Alex.

586
00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:29.039
I'm sorry, did I ignore you totally? I'm sorry about that. So,

587
00:34:29.639 --> 00:34:32.440
but I'm talking PG as a rating. When you when

588
00:34:32.480 --> 00:34:35.320
you see that, I think older than five?

589
00:34:35.440 --> 00:34:36.039
Do you?

590
00:34:36.199 --> 00:34:36.679
Or do you not?

591
00:34:37.480 --> 00:34:37.679
Oh?

592
00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:42.039
Look up to said twelve. I think he's five because

593
00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:48.559
the m raty is next and it's fifteen. So yeah, anyway, sorry,

594
00:34:48.800 --> 00:34:49.760
from five or fifteen?

595
00:34:50.280 --> 00:34:52.280
Do you think five as well as a starting point?

596
00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:54.840
Do you? Wow? That's interesting? And Peter, what about your.

597
00:34:54.920 --> 00:34:56.119
Well, A lot of a lot of some of the

598
00:34:56.920 --> 00:35:00.400
animated films recently have been PG, so that they still

599
00:35:00.400 --> 00:35:01.239
are armed the kids.

600
00:35:02.519 --> 00:35:04.360
Yeah, but I mean when you say kids, so.

601
00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:07.760
I think parental guidance means exactly that. It means you

602
00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:11.239
judge the maturity of your child and whether they're a

603
00:35:11.280 --> 00:35:13.800
nervous child or they've had a lot of experience with

604
00:35:13.960 --> 00:35:16.159
movies and they know what you expect and they've got

605
00:35:16.199 --> 00:35:19.480
an imagination or not. And also parental guidance is the

606
00:35:19.639 --> 00:35:23.199
parents can speak with them about whatever the themes or

607
00:35:23.239 --> 00:35:25.920
issues might be afterwards, so it's not so much an

608
00:35:26.039 --> 00:35:29.320
age then as you make the parent makes a judgment

609
00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:31.559
on their child's ability to handle whatever.

610
00:35:31.559 --> 00:35:34.599
That. I fully understand that, and I respect what you've

611
00:35:34.639 --> 00:35:37.119
just said, but I kind of Peter, have you seen

612
00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:39.760
Harold in a purple crayon? What age group do you

613
00:35:39.760 --> 00:35:41.239
think it's aimed at? Yes?

614
00:35:41.280 --> 00:35:45.480
I have. You also need to look at the advisories

615
00:35:45.559 --> 00:35:50.199
that go with the rating, so sometimes it says language

616
00:35:50.480 --> 00:35:56.119
or mild violence or whatever. So I agree with Jackie,

617
00:35:56.119 --> 00:36:00.519
it's not necessarily a minimum age, although I would suspect

618
00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:03.519
at least five or six for a film like this.

619
00:36:04.280 --> 00:36:06.880
Well, it's the picture, the picture book, but you know

620
00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:12.320
that Johnson was actually for age two. It's a little

621
00:36:12.360 --> 00:36:15.519
picture book and it's to teaching children about the value of,

622
00:36:16.159 --> 00:36:19.840
you know, using your imagination. So it's a simple thing,

623
00:36:19.880 --> 00:36:23.239
whereas this film takes a simple young picture book theme

624
00:36:23.559 --> 00:36:26.800
and turns it into quite an adventure with some scary

625
00:36:26.840 --> 00:36:27.519
things going on.

626
00:36:28.199 --> 00:36:33.400
So you were really disappointed in it, basically, Oh yes, hmm, okay,

627
00:36:33.440 --> 00:36:34.440
that that is just money.

628
00:36:35.079 --> 00:36:36.920
The characters weren't great, but the.

629
00:36:38.519 --> 00:36:40.119
Wit a second, I wanted to pick you up on

630
00:36:40.159 --> 00:36:43.199
that porkip wasn't fortypine terrific. You didn't think.

631
00:36:43.039 --> 00:36:48.320
Bot she I didn't find any any energy in her

632
00:36:48.440 --> 00:36:48.800
at all.

633
00:36:49.800 --> 00:36:53.480
Wow, totally the opposite. I reckon you saw a different movie.

634
00:36:53.719 --> 00:36:56.280
What about you, Greg, Did you like Porcupie and Moose?

635
00:36:56.920 --> 00:36:58.480
You thought quite enjoyed the film.

636
00:36:58.519 --> 00:37:00.480
I thought it was a lot of fun, and I

637
00:37:00.519 --> 00:37:01.480
agree with some of the stuff.

638
00:37:01.519 --> 00:37:02.519
She actually said. They're the kids.

639
00:37:02.840 --> 00:37:06.679
The kid who was great, I thought, And I liked

640
00:37:06.920 --> 00:37:08.599
e zactly Lee. But he had a sort of sense

641
00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:11.519
of sarcasm and innocence about He's got a sort of

642
00:37:11.559 --> 00:37:14.400
toild like innocence about the role he played here. But

643
00:37:14.519 --> 00:37:17.199
I like the flights of fantasy, fantasy when he drew

644
00:37:17.480 --> 00:37:19.920
all these different things to help them get out of trouble,

645
00:37:19.960 --> 00:37:23.039
like the little health planes and all sorts of cars,

646
00:37:23.320 --> 00:37:25.800
putting spares tires on cars and all that sort of stuff.

647
00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:28.519
It's just a wonderful fantasy there. But it's also got

648
00:37:28.519 --> 00:37:31.760
some great scenes to explore, like the importance of family,

649
00:37:31.960 --> 00:37:36.239
importance of imagination, trust, all that kind of thing. At

650
00:37:36.559 --> 00:37:40.239
well shot and did well. I liked Jermaine Clement as

651
00:37:40.280 --> 00:37:42.400
the nasty librarian there.

652
00:37:42.239 --> 00:37:48.679
With a bit driven by Gary that character. Yeah, I

653
00:37:48.679 --> 00:37:50.239
thought he was a great character as well.

654
00:37:51.000 --> 00:37:53.800
And I thought that showdown between the two towards the

655
00:37:53.880 --> 00:37:57.360
end there was well played for laughs, lots of space

656
00:37:57.440 --> 00:38:00.679
overdotioning in special effects as usual with Hollyoo films there.

657
00:38:01.239 --> 00:38:02.880
But you know, I quite enjoyed this, I thought, and

658
00:38:02.960 --> 00:38:06.199
it's kind of appealed to a fairly broad audience.

659
00:38:06.199 --> 00:38:08.559
I would have thought, did you like the fantasy thing

660
00:38:08.599 --> 00:38:10.719
at the end? I didn't. I thought that that wasn't

661
00:38:10.760 --> 00:38:15.480
necessary en wory me. Okay, So what about you, Pete?

662
00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:17.639
You like your purple grounds?

663
00:38:18.280 --> 00:38:22.880
Not particularly, I prefer electric blue. But anyway, I was

664
00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:27.039
disappointed by this film because it doesn't know its audience.

665
00:38:28.119 --> 00:38:32.320
I was unsure as to whether the film was pitched

666
00:38:32.519 --> 00:38:38.159
as a young audience to develop imagination and fantasy, or

667
00:38:38.239 --> 00:38:42.719
whether it was meant to be for adults which look

668
00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:47.800
at the whole notion of family and putting together the

669
00:38:48.239 --> 00:38:51.000
notion of being creative.

670
00:38:51.599 --> 00:38:55.480
And pay the contada builder both. I didn't.

671
00:38:55.519 --> 00:38:58.239
I don't think it did because there was a There

672
00:38:58.280 --> 00:39:01.719
are a lot of scenes that were very derivative, were

673
00:39:01.840 --> 00:39:07.639
very Hollywood, and didn't quite nail it in so far

674
00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:11.480
as the whole notion of imagination, which is what the

675
00:39:11.519 --> 00:39:17.880
original picture books were all about. I felt that Jermaine

676
00:39:18.000 --> 00:39:23.400
Clement's character as the villain was an unnecessary Lord of

677
00:39:23.440 --> 00:39:28.360
the Rings type of character, even though the film was

678
00:39:28.400 --> 00:39:33.679
shot in New Zealand. But I was disappointed by Zoey

679
00:39:33.760 --> 00:39:35.079
Deschanel's character.

680
00:39:36.199 --> 00:39:39.480
Very good actress, Yeah way, what did you want to?

681
00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:40.639
I thought you was terrific.

682
00:39:41.280 --> 00:39:44.920
I thought she was just so laid back and had

683
00:39:45.079 --> 00:39:49.119
very little to do, and was given a poor dialogue

684
00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:54.679
in many respects, just the reactionary dialogue that didn't really

685
00:39:54.719 --> 00:40:01.039
advance Zachary Levi's character and their interactions. It look it

686
00:40:01.119 --> 00:40:09.960
was directed by Carlos Sealandana, who originally directed animations, and

687
00:40:10.039 --> 00:40:16.199
this is his first live action combo animation direction, and

688
00:40:16.280 --> 00:40:20.360
it shows because he is a bit lost as to

689
00:40:20.519 --> 00:40:23.679
what he is trying to do or to say. And

690
00:40:24.519 --> 00:40:28.000
I must admit I was disappointed by the whole creation

691
00:40:29.239 --> 00:40:32.440
because I would have liked the film to be more imaginative,

692
00:40:32.599 --> 00:40:41.119
more family friendly, and to really talk more about being creative,

693
00:40:41.599 --> 00:40:43.639
and the film failed to do that for me.

694
00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:48.039
You and Jackie agree with one another on this, and

695
00:40:48.400 --> 00:40:50.280
Greg and I are much more inclined the other way.

696
00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:54.599
So it's one of these divisional type films. Greg, I

697
00:40:54.639 --> 00:40:55.960
presume I'm going to give her a six and a

698
00:40:55.960 --> 00:40:58.960
half to a seven. It's Harold and the Purple Grayond

699
00:40:59.360 --> 00:41:02.199
and it runs an hour and a half PG rated.

700
00:41:02.199 --> 00:41:04.320
What would you give it? I'd do it, Si sou

701
00:41:04.440 --> 00:41:07.920
send Okay, so a little bit lower. So Peter, are

702
00:41:07.960 --> 00:41:08.760
you going to pass it?

703
00:41:10.159 --> 00:41:11.960
I can only give it four out of ten on

704
00:41:12.079 --> 00:41:12.639
the three.

705
00:41:12.639 --> 00:41:16.960
Right, goalie, So it fails to attract even a younger

706
00:41:17.000 --> 00:41:20.400
audience here Egon wouldn't like it. No, I think they'd

707
00:41:20.440 --> 00:41:25.480
be bored, Okay, Jackie.

708
00:41:24.559 --> 00:41:28.519
Yes, I just gave it a five. I agree with

709
00:41:28.559 --> 00:41:31.880
everything Peter said. It didn't go to oneer words. I

710
00:41:31.880 --> 00:41:34.639
would have loved it if it had been an animation

711
00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:37.079
along the lines of the start of the film, but

712
00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:40.599
maybe a little more sophisticated than that, rather than being

713
00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:42.880
an entirely you know what we know is a Hollywood

714
00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:46.400
animation film. But just keep it really simple and true

715
00:41:46.440 --> 00:41:49.880
to the book and develop just the imagination idea of it.

716
00:41:50.719 --> 00:41:53.320
Without all the extras. It would have been quite a

717
00:41:53.320 --> 00:41:55.519
different film, and I think it could have been quite special.

718
00:41:55.920 --> 00:41:58.480
And so you don't think it works to sort of

719
00:41:58.480 --> 00:42:00.880
have both, because I thought it was the cleverness in

720
00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:01.480
the film.

721
00:42:01.639 --> 00:42:04.360
So Dad, if it had been clever, it would have worked.

722
00:42:04.360 --> 00:42:06.000
But I didn't think it was clever at all. I

723
00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:09.559
thought it was quite lame in those the characters. And

724
00:42:10.239 --> 00:42:13.840
as Peter Riggs I said, the dialogue was lame.

725
00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:21.400
Well, that is the crayon's been written off Bonnard, Pierre

726
00:42:21.440 --> 00:42:25.239
and Marta rated him A runs for two hours and

727
00:42:25.280 --> 00:42:29.079
three minutes. Now here we go. This is a foreign

728
00:42:29.199 --> 00:42:32.199
language picture that I thought was quite interesting, because I

729
00:42:32.199 --> 00:42:35.920
mean I was, well, firstly, let me start there, were

730
00:42:35.960 --> 00:42:40.599
you aware, Peter of the painter Pierre Bonard before you

731
00:42:40.639 --> 00:42:41.480
saw this movie?

732
00:42:42.039 --> 00:42:42.679
No, I was not.

733
00:42:43.440 --> 00:42:46.559
Ah, Okay, I was, but I didn't know a lot

734
00:42:46.599 --> 00:42:51.639
about him. I wasn't aware of Marta Bonard, his wife.

735
00:42:52.119 --> 00:42:57.880
But look the truth behind the complicated relationship between the Peter,

736
00:42:58.000 --> 00:43:01.719
who was a French post impressionist Pierre Bonnard lived from

737
00:43:01.920 --> 00:43:07.000
eighteen sixty seven to nineteen forty seven and his wife Marta. Well,

738
00:43:07.039 --> 00:43:10.960
it may forever be illusory because there are different representations

739
00:43:11.000 --> 00:43:15.880
of it, but as it is, it remains subject to interpretation.

740
00:43:16.360 --> 00:43:21.039
Now that doesn't prevent the co writer with Mark Abdulnaw,

741
00:43:21.320 --> 00:43:24.639
and it doesn't prevent Martin provoss who's the person I'm

742
00:43:24.639 --> 00:43:29.960
talking about from Penning, quite a fascinating biopic focusing upon

743
00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:33.320
this relationship. So Pierre was an up and coming painter

744
00:43:33.960 --> 00:43:37.920
when he putner Me chanced upon Marta in Paris in

745
00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:40.960
eighteen ninety three. So let's do a bit of arithmetic,

746
00:43:41.159 --> 00:43:43.679
that would have meant that he was about twenty six

747
00:43:43.760 --> 00:43:46.960
years of age and asked her to model for him.

748
00:43:47.639 --> 00:43:50.880
So quite a striking woman. She presented herself as a

749
00:43:50.920 --> 00:43:55.480
seamstress for an artificial flower maker. But the truth was

750
00:43:55.519 --> 00:44:00.800
something different, wasn't it, Peter. The sparks between them flew immediately.

751
00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:03.280
They were besotted with one another, and they were sort

752
00:44:03.280 --> 00:44:06.199
of hopping into the cot constantly, and as you are

753
00:44:06.280 --> 00:44:09.800
when you sort of start out a relationship. She actually

754
00:44:09.800 --> 00:44:13.639
became his muse, but what she didn't care for was

755
00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:20.199
his aristocratic French living in the Paris friends and the

756
00:44:20.320 --> 00:44:25.039
couple ended up settling in to a remote country life

757
00:44:25.119 --> 00:44:29.239
because that's what she preferred. He was dedicated to his art,

758
00:44:29.679 --> 00:44:35.159
and it was also an unmistakable womanizer, something that caused

759
00:44:35.159 --> 00:44:38.880
her a great deal of angst. Still, she stood by him,

760
00:44:39.239 --> 00:44:42.440
even when he took a special interest in one young

761
00:44:42.519 --> 00:44:47.880
lover called Renee Watch chatty led by Stacy Martin, who

762
00:44:48.679 --> 00:44:52.559
basically this was interesting too. She for a time moved

763
00:44:52.599 --> 00:44:55.119
in with the pair, So you had the wife and

764
00:44:55.159 --> 00:45:00.400
the lover in the same house. Now, among those with

765
00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:04.920
whom they kept company, I'm talking about Pierre and his wife.

766
00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:09.239
Marta was one of the big fellow artists of the time,

767
00:45:09.480 --> 00:45:14.880
Claude Money. Money was older than Pierre Bonard. But yeah,

768
00:45:14.920 --> 00:45:19.440
good friend, and it appears that this sort of libertarian

769
00:45:19.519 --> 00:45:22.760
lifestyle was not just the domain of Pierre Bonard. Now

770
00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:25.360
I'm not sure how much of that's true, although I

771
00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:29.159
have heard and read that it was true, So you know,

772
00:45:29.199 --> 00:45:32.840
maybe they stretched a bit in this movie. But nevertheless,

773
00:45:32.880 --> 00:45:37.519
that sort of became a mainstay of this in terms

774
00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:41.840
of the narrative. So notably, regardless of the affairs that

775
00:45:41.880 --> 00:45:45.119
he had, Pierre was inevitably drawn back to his wife

776
00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:50.559
and clearly cared for her deeply. At times. She struggled

777
00:45:50.960 --> 00:45:54.719
though with this is the wife with asthma, and later

778
00:45:54.760 --> 00:45:59.840
in life her mental health deteriorated. Martin Provostroil has painted

779
00:45:59.880 --> 00:46:02.880
a picture of an intriguing couple and the company that

780
00:46:02.920 --> 00:46:06.719
they kept a lot of jealousy and jealousy abounds with

781
00:46:06.719 --> 00:46:09.440
the wife, and you know, it's understandable. I'm not just

782
00:46:09.760 --> 00:46:13.360
talking about martydo in terms of jealousy. And I actually

783
00:46:13.400 --> 00:46:15.920
found the film, which takes the form of this turbulent

784
00:46:15.960 --> 00:46:19.840
love story, quite intelligent. It was engaging, it was quite compelling,

785
00:46:20.360 --> 00:46:23.320
and for Pierre subterfuge appears to be the order of

786
00:46:23.360 --> 00:46:26.119
the day, because I mean, he was juggling things whilst

787
00:46:26.119 --> 00:46:28.920
he was really committed to his craft, namely his art,

788
00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:31.760
he's still found time for a bit of hanky panky

789
00:46:32.079 --> 00:46:35.280
and otherwise. The questions posed what could he get away

790
00:46:35.320 --> 00:46:38.480
with and how much was Marta prepared to take? And

791
00:46:38.519 --> 00:46:41.440
the answer to the latter was a great deal little.

792
00:46:42.079 --> 00:46:44.840
And not to be a bit too churlish about it,

793
00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:48.280
I reckon the reason for the lifestyle, the reason that

794
00:46:48.360 --> 00:46:52.079
she did sort of stay around. Part of it was

795
00:46:52.079 --> 00:46:54.920
the lifestyle that afforded her given her own history, which

796
00:46:55.400 --> 00:46:57.960
I won't go into detail with here, but there's no

797
00:46:58.079 --> 00:47:01.280
question that she loved him as well. I really appreciated

798
00:47:01.280 --> 00:47:04.039
the representation of her by Cecil de France, who I

799
00:47:04.199 --> 00:47:06.760
like as an actor. She brings this sort of buoyancy

800
00:47:06.840 --> 00:47:10.280
and zest and feistiness and also a sense of being

801
00:47:10.320 --> 00:47:15.000
worn down to the role. Then Vincent McCain is more

802
00:47:15.079 --> 00:47:17.920
secretive and aloof as Pierre, although he starts out with

803
00:47:17.960 --> 00:47:20.800
a great deal of vigor, I might say, reflective of

804
00:47:20.800 --> 00:47:23.400
a twenty six year old Stacy Martin makes a good

805
00:47:23.440 --> 00:47:26.480
fist of her persona as the engine you who has

806
00:47:26.519 --> 00:47:31.840
her eyes well and truly opened. Really beautiful cinematography, really

807
00:47:31.920 --> 00:47:36.760
lovely lush surrounds. Another feature of Bonnard Pierre and Marta

808
00:47:37.119 --> 00:47:42.320
Golam Schiffman, who was the cinematographer of the Artist. He

809
00:47:42.480 --> 00:47:44.960
is responsible great movie, The Artist, by the way, the

810
00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:47.599
black and white film that won the Oscar and he's

811
00:47:47.679 --> 00:47:51.559
the one as a cinematographer that transports us into a

812
00:47:51.599 --> 00:47:55.039
world rich with natural and man made beauty in a

813
00:47:55.079 --> 00:47:58.320
movie that very clearly deals with the wandering eye as

814
00:47:58.320 --> 00:48:02.039
well as art. So yeah, I enjoyed Bonnard Pierre and Arta.

815
00:48:02.119 --> 00:48:03.639
I'm not sure that it needed to go on for

816
00:48:03.679 --> 00:48:06.440
two hours and three minutes, but I know that doesn't

817
00:48:06.480 --> 00:48:08.760
trouble you. If the movie was twenty hours, it wouldn't

818
00:48:08.760 --> 00:48:10.079
trouble you better, would it?

819
00:48:11.000 --> 00:48:11.079
No?

820
00:48:11.840 --> 00:48:16.039
Very artistic? Yes, thank you? So what did you think

821
00:48:16.079 --> 00:48:16.360
of it?

822
00:48:17.079 --> 00:48:20.599
I liked it. It's one of a slew of French

823
00:48:20.679 --> 00:48:23.440
films that have been made over the last fifteen twenty

824
00:48:23.519 --> 00:48:31.280
years which look at the artistic temperament and in particular painters, artists, sculptors, etc.

825
00:48:32.599 --> 00:48:35.840
And this one deals with Pierre Bonard, who was an

826
00:48:35.920 --> 00:48:42.280
Impressionist painter who obviously had his affairs and dalliances, but

827
00:48:42.960 --> 00:48:46.039
it was devoted to his wife and he encouraged her

828
00:48:46.639 --> 00:48:52.119
to also become a painter, which the film also reveals.

829
00:48:52.719 --> 00:48:58.679
It's welve shot in surroundings which mimic the villa that

830
00:48:59.239 --> 00:49:06.679
they lived in for fifty plus years, and it just

831
00:49:06.760 --> 00:49:11.559
has that glow and feel to it about the artistic life,

832
00:49:12.519 --> 00:49:18.880
good business of art and relationships, and also the whole

833
00:49:18.960 --> 00:49:24.400
notion of being loyal or devoted to a partner.

834
00:49:25.800 --> 00:49:26.679
I liked it.

835
00:49:26.679 --> 00:49:31.920
It's a well made film. I read up about the

836
00:49:31.960 --> 00:49:38.480
original story and yes, it is largely based on fact, and.

837
00:49:39.280 --> 00:49:42.079
Mind you I read I read alternate version. I did

838
00:49:42.119 --> 00:49:46.159
read alternative versions better that there's some question marks about

839
00:49:46.440 --> 00:49:49.239
exactly what went on and why, which I kind of

840
00:49:49.800 --> 00:49:52.079
It's interesting when you see a movie you haven't read

841
00:49:52.159 --> 00:49:54.519
much about it, you can'd of believe that the movie

842
00:49:54.559 --> 00:49:56.719
is unt to present, truthful and of course that's a

843
00:49:56.800 --> 00:50:00.679
dangerous thing to do. Of course history is off rewritten,

844
00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:04.880
isn't it in the eyes of the beholder? And it

845
00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:09.039
sort of reminded me. And there's a strange sort of

846
00:50:09.079 --> 00:50:12.400
deviation for me to take here. But my wife had

847
00:50:12.440 --> 00:50:16.840
some friends over, well not over, but who she hadn't

848
00:50:16.880 --> 00:50:21.159
seen for about forty years, and we were talking about

849
00:50:21.719 --> 00:50:27.119
their perceptions of the US presidential election and boys that divisive.

850
00:50:27.159 --> 00:50:31.199
You know, the talk during the week about eating cats

851
00:50:31.199 --> 00:50:35.719
and dogs and basically stealing geese. That was the latest version.

852
00:50:36.039 --> 00:50:39.440
Now you know, you can take that literally or you

853
00:50:39.480 --> 00:50:43.719
can take it as a poetic license in a big way.

854
00:50:44.079 --> 00:50:47.760
And it's interesting how different people, depending upon your political persuasion,

855
00:50:48.239 --> 00:50:51.079
choose to believe one way or the other. So, yeah,

856
00:50:51.119 --> 00:50:54.000
I just but I mean, it is a good movie.

857
00:50:54.000 --> 00:50:56.760
It's quite compelling. Did you not think it could have been.

858
00:50:56.639 --> 00:51:01.760
A chuter No. I've seen much longer films that deal

859
00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:05.199
with the artist's life, and I felt this one was

860
00:51:05.719 --> 00:51:08.880
quite adequate with its time frame.

861
00:51:09.320 --> 00:51:12.400
Okay, well, let's get a score from you. Bonard Pierre

862
00:51:12.440 --> 00:51:14.639
and Marta am I rated undred and twenty three? What

863
00:51:14.639 --> 00:51:15.880
are you giving it? Yeah?

864
00:51:16.039 --> 00:51:19.840
No, it is largely based on a first story and

865
00:51:19.920 --> 00:51:29.079
not on a delusional ranting of a potential president. But anyway, Bonard,

866
00:51:30.079 --> 00:51:32.360
I like very much, and I gave it seven out

867
00:51:32.360 --> 00:51:34.239
of ten, and I gave it seven and a half.

868
00:51:34.239 --> 00:51:36.519
Greg you're catching up with it. Yeah, I haven't seen

869
00:51:36.519 --> 00:51:39.599
it yet. No, that's fair enough. We're over and done

870
00:51:39.599 --> 00:51:41.960
with and unfortunately Jackie had to leave us, so farewell

871
00:51:42.000 --> 00:51:45.400
Jackie in her absence, Peter, thanks very much. Indeed, Gregory,

872
00:51:45.400 --> 00:51:47.639
a pleasure to have you with me as well, and

873
00:51:47.679 --> 00:51:49.960
we will do it all again very very soon. First

874
00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:53.599
on film and entertainment. Enjoy your week, folks. Have fun,