Aug. 18, 2024

S03E17: Essendon’s Fall and Cinema’s Perfect Scores

S03E17: Essendon’s Fall and Cinema’s Perfect Scores

**Host:** Alex First
**Guest Critics:** Greg King, Peter Krauss
**Episode Summary:**
In this lively episode, Alex First, Greg King, and Peter Krauss navigate through the highs and lows of recent film and theatre experiences. The conversation starts...

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Season 3

**Host:** Alex First
**Guest Critics:** Greg King, Peter Krauss
**Episode Summary:**
In this lively episode, Alex First, Greg King, and Peter Krauss navigate through the highs and lows of recent film and theatre experiences. The conversation starts with a passionate discussion about the disappointing end to Essendon's season, drawing parallels between sports and cinema. The critics then dive into M. Night Shyamalan's latest thriller "Trap," followed by a review of "Alien Romulus." The episode also features an enthusiastic review of the theatrical masterpiece "Murder for Two," and a reflective discussion on the play "Jenny," which explores the life of suffragette Sarah Jane Baines.
00:00:00 " Gregory King still doesn't see connection between movies and football
00:04:02 " You and Adam were best mates when the earth was formed, weren't you
00:04:27 " Peter Dutton went to see Murder for Two on Friday night
00:08:06 " Peter and Greg discuss a new movie on J 88 FM
00:09:49 " Peter says social media has gone to hell in a handbasket
00:12:04 " Marlon Shyamalan's latest film is called trap
00:16:35 " Every time you go to a venue, every other person is checked
00:21:42 " Have you incurred any incidents like what I've just described
00:22:14 " Greg Cooper: I thought the intrigue was very well established
00:24:48 " The trailer revealed that Josh Artner is the serial killer
00:27:30 " Peter: The film loses me as soon as they leave the concert
00:31:06 " Greg Gutfeld gives the film a seven out of ten
00:32:19 " If you want to join Jair, please become a member
00:32:58 " Peter: My overwhelming feeling from this one is disappointment
00:33:38 " Peter: I think they've done it for a new generation
00:35:24 " This is the 9th movie in the franchise, right. If you include the Prometheus films
00:36:49 " Rain Carradine is the protagonist of this futuristic sci-fi film
00:40:35 " Alien Romulus rated MA and runs for 119 minutes
00:43:57 " Murder for two premiered at Chicago Shakespeare Theatre back in 2011
00:50:33 " Peter Krauss: I saw an interesting show about a suffragette
00:54:18 " Valet to Jenna Rowlands, the actress**Highlights:**
- **Essendon's Season and Cinema Parallels:** Alex, Greg, and Peter discuss the heartbreak of Essendon's season, comparing it to a promising film that fails to deliver.

  • **Trap:** M. Night Shyamalan's newest thriller is dissected. Alex praises its tension and twists, while Greg and Peter critique its overreliance on plot contrivances.
  • - **Alien Romulus:** The latest instalment in the Alien franchise receives mixed reviews. Alex finds it underwhelming, while Greg appreciates its horror elements.
  • - **Murder for Two:** Alex raves about this comedic musical murder mystery, highlighting the exceptional performances and clever writing.
  • - **Jenny:** A reflective look at the life of suffragette Sarah Jane Baines, with strong performances and insightful storytelling.
  • **Closing Note:**
  • This episode of First on Film and Entertainment offers a rich mix of film and theatre reviews, from the twists and turns of "Trap" to the horror of "Alien Romulus," the comedic brilliance of "Murder for Two," and the historical depth of "Jenny." Join Alex, Greg, and Peter for thoughtful commentary and engaging discussions. Tune in next week for more in-depth film analysis and lively conversations.
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First on Film and Entertainment. We are talking the weekend

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that Essendon has finally capitulated a season that had capitulated

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about eight weeks ago. Gregory King, I am mortified. Can

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you understand that?

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You you ilitate it to heart, Alex when you lose?

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Oh my golly, greg I'm tearing strips off anything that's

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red and black at the moment. It's shocking. You sort

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of tease, you tantalize. It happens every season. Oh anyway,

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last three and you know your second on the ladder,

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and you plummet, and you continue to plummet, and ah,

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the exasperation. Peter, can you understand that? Peter Grouse?

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No, I don't understand it at all. It sounds well,

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it's like it's.

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Like watching a bad movie that starts out with a

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lot of promise and then disintegrates. You can relate to that.

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I still don't see the connection between movies and football.

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Oh, for God's sake, man, listen, it's about it's about that.

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Often you think about a script, Peter, when somebody writes

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a grand script, or starts out writing a grand script

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and doesn't know how to finish, that's often the case

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isn't it in cinema.

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Yes, but every week there's a new match, whereas there's

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only one film.

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Yes, but the point being that it's so hard to

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make a consistently great film. There are ebbs and flows.

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You know, when we give scores, I get in terms

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of the perfect game. There's almost no such thing. Is

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there such a thing as a perfect movie? It's very

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very hard to achieve that. And I mean in football terms, Peter,

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the most successful season in the history of the game

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was my team in the year two thousand, where they

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won with an average winning margin of ten goals, which

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is a large and they won all but one game,

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so it still wasn't perfect. Now, you know, my best

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movie of all time, which I think was perfect a

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very distressing watch, was The Benino What's the Italian Life

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Roberto Bernini, Roberto Bernini's beautiful. I thought that was an

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extraordinary movie. But there are very few films in my

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history of reviewing which goes back a fair distance that

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I've given the perfect score to.

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What about you, Oh, there've been a few films I've

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given ten out of ten. It's there, I mean, nothing

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is there for completely perfect?

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Well, that's the point that I'm making. And Greg, what

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about you in terms of perfect scores of films? And

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you as a lifelong since killer support, I mean, gee,

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you've gone through your own grease. So you know, have

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you seen the perfect football game ever played?

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I don't know, probably the nine Grand Final, wasn't it

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when you were about twenty five?

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Gold kick by both teams? Yeah? Okay? And what about

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movie wise?

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Yeah for you?

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Okay, so what I know we've done this before. But

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the best movie you've ever seen? Greg?

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Well, I still say Shawshanky Jim, you my favorite. But

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best movies would be a few other ones I like.

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I'd put in their Sons of Lambs.

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Yeah, yeah, great film.

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Same in Private Ryan, where It looks.

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Yeah, I love Okay, Yeah, there's a there's I'd certainly

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amongst those, No question about that. The one Flew Over

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the Cooker's Nest was a pretty damn good film. Peter Grause,

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what about you? Your best films of all time or

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best film?

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Best film? Metropolis nineteen twenty seven, Fritz Lang's brilliant film.

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Well, you're already an old man at that stage, weren't you,

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So you would have you would have seen it when

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you were past your prior correct.

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I was there at the launch.

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Absolutely, well, you were there. You and Adam were best

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mates when the Earth was formed, won't you.

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I was a bad apple.

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You were exactly a bad seed. So yeah, that's my

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attempt to try to convince you that there's all of

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the sporting endeavor in movies or vice versa. You never

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know which way something's going to play out. By the way,

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and I'm going to talk about this time permitting, and

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I'm in fact I'm going to there. I think I

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saw the most surprisingly great show that I've ever seen.

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I saw that on Friday night. It was just amazing,

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and I had this big conflict Greg because Essendon was playing.

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I tried to go to all of my games and

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I'd heard this was magnificent, and it was. Murder for

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Two is extraordinary. It's only on til the twenty fifth

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of the month, it's at the Art Center.

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When you're gone to see en last night and seen

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the player night.

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There are some I'll put this delicately, there are some

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shows that the publicists and the producers basically say you've

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got one night to see it, and unless you're on

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death's door, you should be seeing it. That night. Now,

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at times I'll test that and at other times I won't,

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and I was desperate to. I really was desperate to

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try and sort of go to Essendon last night, especially

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because it was Dyson Hepple's Farewell. Mind you, I hope

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he plays next week in Brisbane. But I just thought

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it was the right thing to do, and at times

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you need to do the right thing. Greek, you know.

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That was why I ended up going. But gee whiz,

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it's just an It's in the Fairfax Studio, the smaller theater,

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and it's one hundred minutes of mind bogglingly brilliant comedic.

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Think Agatha Christie crossed with the best comedy that you've

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ever seen, and you go some way to understanding how

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damn good this was. I don't know whether it's ever

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been in Melbourne, but it was Hayes Theater in Sydney.

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Put on two lots of performances. There was an encore

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and I just was blown away by it. It is

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just outstanding theater. And we talk about perfection beat this

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they did not miss a beat. It's not only they

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imagine this. They're dueling on the piano, so they're both

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on the one stool at the Steinway, which is a

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baby grand black piano in the middle of a proper

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stage setting, which reminded me of an Agatha Christie. You know,

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the wooden panels and library type books, et cetera, et cetera.

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And then you've got them both. One of them performs

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twelve characters and is so acrobatic they're throwing themselves around

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it and flouncing themselves about, and the other players are detective.

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And it's got all of the what was the egg

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of the Christie novel and then there were none or

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whatever it was, and the mouse trap and stuff like that.

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It's got all of those ingredients. But imagine the cleverest

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forms of writing, the greatest choreography, superb musicality and lyricism,

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and then you've got the sets, the staging, the direction.

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It is just incredible, it really is. I would peter

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you who will never go to theater if there's one

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at it's really good price. It's not a pricey show,

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so that in itself, because I mean, Greg, you know,

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if you go to a musical you could be paying

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upwards two hundred dollars if you want to get a

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prime seat these days, this is certainly well under one

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hundred bucks and it's well worth seeing. It's only on

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till the twenty fifth of the month. I hope they

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come back. I hope they fill the stadium, the theater,

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the Fairfax every time an ovation. I don't think there

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was a person left in their seats last night. It

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was that heroic the performances. So there you go. I've

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given you a review without giving you a full review.

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At this point, let's talk about a movie on J

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eighty eight FM. It's one that opened a couple of

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weeks ago, but I, Peter you and I saw it

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in a relatively sparse cinema. In fact, we've got to

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give Eddie to me some praise for his theater, his

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diversity of theatrical offerings that he puts on at his

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three theaters in Melbourne and his theater in Sydney. We

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saw it at the Classic, did we not?

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Yes?

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So I make a point of walking up the stairs. Greg,

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have you been to the Classic or not?

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You have been here quite a few times.

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Have you walked to the top And you've got all

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these expressions or lines from famous movies. I think that's

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so clever. And then you've also got sort of photographs

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or on the on the walls as you're sort of

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mounting the stairs. You've got wonderful, wonderful scenery of some

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of the great movies.

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Oh, you've go.

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To the Ludore in Hawthorn who runs also in the

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gens toilet. There's pages and pages of script film scripts

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on the walls there. Read something while you're having a link.

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It's interesting that you say that. Obviously I go to

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the wrong bathroom because I've never seen that. Which which

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bathroom is it the one as you first walk up

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the stairs, or because that's the one that I go

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to and know I haven't seen it?

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Oh, well, there you go.

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You've missed something. Oh, I I mean it's great when

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people you know that. I mean, memorability is huge, and

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it's kind of I don't know, it's interesting. How, by

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the way, have you been following and this is another aside,

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have you both of you been following the controversy surrounding

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the Blake Lively movie and the interviews? Have you followed

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that during the week? Better?

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Not at all?

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Greg?

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No, I know you mentioned it last week, but it

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hasn't really piqued more interest.

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Well, yeah, it just continues. And there was another well

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reasonably scandalous type article this morning questioning whether or not

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Blake Lively's career is going to take a hit because

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of it. I mean, it just seems bizarre if you

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don't say the right thing. It's like the controversy surrounding

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the we're not allowed to call it break dancing, but

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you know what was used what formerly was known as

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break dancing, and the Australian performer at the Olympic Games.

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I just think that's horrible. I mean, okay, she didn't

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score any points because the points were more difficult to score.

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It's not like diving when you're diving off a board.

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But I mean you imagine how traumatized. And I've watched

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her full video where she's responded to the criticism and

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says she's going to take a break and then we'll

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have more to say. But I think the Australian Olympic

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Committee did it absolutely the right thing by you know,

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there was a petition that was circulating about this and

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they got that band and so on. I mean, golly,

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do people not if people suddenly commit sort of heenous

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acts because of being goaded into it? People can be

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really nasty. I know, our job as reviewers is to

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sort of pra see something and then to basically give

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our opinion. But it's not about playing the man. It

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just seems to be the world has gone to hell

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in a hand basket better since social media has been

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as prolific as it has been, don't you agree?

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Well, you can be anonymous and say hateful things. So

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that's why people get away with it.

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Yeah, And I mean that's the thing that bothers me

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most that people do get away with it, and they

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shouldn't be allowed to get away with it. It just

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it keeps on going it really, it's irritating in the extreme,

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is my way of putting this anyway, It's it is

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what it is. Right, So we've taken a few deviations

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times three. So let's talk about a movie called Trap. Now,

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are you you like me? Must have seen and must

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have appreciated the grand opening to m Night Shay Marlin's career,

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right the sixth sense, great movie, wonderful praise that went

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with it, and you know, a huge career was assured. Well,

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it's taken a few deviations, hasn't it, Greg? I mean,

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a lot of his movies have been panned unfortunately, I

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think again some unfairly. I've enjoyed quite a bit of

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m Night Shay Marlin's work. What would you do you

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think he's been? He's never does Has he ever reached

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the heights of the sixth sense? Again?

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No, but it's come close to top of times. But

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it has interesting premises, but they don't always hold up

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the fore.

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App there you mean, come together at the end.

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You mean he's often throwsen that twist that you're looking for. There,

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some work, some don't. But he's made a few interesting films,

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shall we say, but a couple of absolute turkeys as

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well after Earth.

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Oh yes, okay, what about you, Peter? What are your

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thoughts about in Knight jam Marlan next bag?

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Yes, because he desperately seeks a twist to grab the audience,

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like the film The Village, which actually did quite well. Yeah,

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I thought that was a good example. But nevertheless, his

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films are flawed because he's so desperately is seeking taking attention, Yeah,

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but seeking that special twist that no one could see coming.

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Well, this one he again wrote and directed it. Tramp

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runs for one hundred and five minutes and is rated

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M it stars one of his daughters, and I thought

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she was terrific. Selika is her name. It's a really

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tense psychological thriller and it's sort of claustrophobic. So you've

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got a character called Riley played by Ariel Donahue. She's

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a teenager and she's got a huge pop crash. And

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this is quite timely because of course you've got Taylor

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Swift continuing with her concert tour and then the drama

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of what happened in Austria and having to cancel the

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Austrian Legahild tour because of threats to her safety. Anyway,

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So in this case, the huge star is known as

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Lady Raven and that's the character played by Selika Schai

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Marlin and her dad, her character's dad I'm talking about.

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Riley's dad is called Cooper, and that's a Josh Hartnett character.

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He's a firefighter. He's secured a couple of highly sought

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after tickets to one of Lady Raven's gigs and she,

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Riley couldn't be more excited. So when they write so

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what we notice and what he knows this is the

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father immediately is this massive security presence. Guards are at

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every door, and basically they're prominent inside the venue as

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well as outside, so once stay at the stadium, patrons

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are not allowed to exit until the show's over. So

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Cooper the Father's key to understand exactly what's going on,

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and it becomes clear that the FBI has received intelligence

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that the serial killer is at the venue and this

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killer could strike again at any moment, and the lead

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FBI agent, doctor Josephine Grant played by Hayley Mills, is

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naturally intent on not allowing it to happen. But despite

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her best endeavors and those of the other troops on

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the ground, the perpetrator looks to have slipped through the net.

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And it's also evident that this perpetrator has a trump

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card up his slo leave to ensure that things go

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his way. So there's a real danger and among those

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at greatest risk is their performer, Lady Raven. So again

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think Taylor Swift. I've deliberately danced around much of the

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plotting so as not to spoil the surprises. And before

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this is over, there are twists are plenty, and that's

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a good thing. I mean, that's exactly what you want

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with a movie of this ilk, I commend it for it. So, okay,

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it's far fetched, no question about that. But whilst the

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twists are far fetched, the premise is not. So you know, Greg,

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you and I go to the MCG a lot. We

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go to Marvel Stadium a lot, and I always worry.

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I know that they do the security checks and every

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every other person is checked, you know, with their whatever

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you call it, the wand that they wave over you,

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and you know they take a cursory look at the bags.

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But you know, there is a real, real threat to

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me every time you go to a venue, whether it

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be a theater, whether it be to a movie house.

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I mean, you could live your life in fear. But

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it's much more real than when we were kids. Do

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you not agree?

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Yeah, but I'm not really as conscious of it you

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in Melbourne?

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Is that right? Okay? Now I'm acutely aware of it. Peter,

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What about you? I mean, you don't go to the

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big venues, but you go to theaters and shows and

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not shows that you go to movie hours is a lot?

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Has that ever crossed your mind?

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It actually hasn't. In fact, most of the events that

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have happened have been overseas. In Europe and so on,

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Australia seems to be somewhat impervious to this.

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Well, it's interesting you say that because I don't agree

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Peter Alice.

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You said he something happening like in a movie like

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chewing a warning all Black Sunday or something.

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Are you well, I'm also thinking about what Peter was

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reflecting on that. You know, you've got that what was

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the movie where somebody broke in and shot a large

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number of people in the concert? That that's happened at

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as well. It's no longer you can't say that Australians

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are safe. Society is a lot worse than it was

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when we were kids, in my opinion, and that's why

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I'm acutely aware of what's going on. Obviously, you know,

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we are on a station that ostensibly got a Jewish listenership,

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and you know, you think about the hatred and the

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vitriol since October seventh, right, And there are homes that

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have got the messuza, which is the typical sign post

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on it. And there are people who have proudly displayed

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our Judaism and other people who don't. All of that

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is wrapped up in all of this bear in mind

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that there are a lot of people who are listening

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whose parents and grandparents escape the Holocaust to come to

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a safe place like Australia, and I just don't think

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we can say we're safe anymore. So big venues are

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a prime target. And bear in mind that we were

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fortunate that we went through the Olympic Games without the

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you know, before the Olympic Games or a few security

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threats and so forth, but it didn't come to pass.

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But there was I think what wasn't there a heightened

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terror alert at some point that was put out again

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recently in Australia. So this is the society in which

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we live now. You know, you can live your life

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under a rock and not go out and whatever will

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you take a risk and you continue to live your

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life as you were. And both of you have suggested

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to me now that it doesn't even cross your mind.

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So that's great, it's great. I mean, I you know,

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it's there's nothing. You are in a closed environment. You

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are trapped and you know we've seen before that was

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at Gagasaulus that ran ran riot through through Melbourne and whatever.

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Then we had a lot of other things that were

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going on that basically now in America, they're talking FBI's

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talking about putting bulletproof sheets around president for a President

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Trump every time he gets up and speaks, that there

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are new and unusual and bastardly ways that people are

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trying to get to other people. That's the world. It's

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a horrible world, beata, is it not? But yes?

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But what do you do about it? As you say,

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you don't go anywhere, you don't do anything, is that

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the appropriate response?

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Or do you live your life as normal? Well, that's

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what I'm saying. I think you do live your life

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as normal. But I'd be saying you more conscious, not

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that that can prevent anything, but you're more conscious of

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people around you. I mean, I've told you the stories

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before that you know when I three incidents have happened

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to me in relatively recent years. I mean when I

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say relatively recent years, I was walking back from the

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cricket greg at the mcg and I was speaking on

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my phone to my son and I was confronted by

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what I thought at the time was a couple of

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yous and they basically said give me your money and

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give me your phone. And I was in mid call.

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And then in the shadows, and this was near the

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Shrine of Remembrance, so we're not talking about a long

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way out of the city. I was walking back to

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my car. There was a guy with a knife, so

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you know, I gave him what they wanted. But I

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mean that was just one incident. Another one in my

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own street, I got confronted by a number of drunken

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youths who started pursuing me and said they were going

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to kill me. That's you know, so you know, does

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that mean I don't go out? No, it doesn't mean

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I don't go out, but I'm a lot more conscious

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of it. Peter, So have any incident Have you incurred

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any incidents like what I've just described, Gregor, Peter.

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Not exactly. The worst I've had is when I was

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at the Nova Cinema and a group of Palestinian protesters

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invaded a screening, but they didn't do anything. They just

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shouted at us.

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All right, right, and yeah, and that's bad enough that

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you have to put up with that. But greg, what

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about you not really known? Okay? So no, look anyway

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that getting back to the movie in our trap, I mean,

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it is far fetched, but I did find myself readily involved,

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especially early on. I thought the intrigue was very well established,

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and there's a feeling of unease that permeates the peace

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from the get go. Something's clearly not right, okay, and Cooper,

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the father's acting strangely. The daughter rilely can see it,

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but she can't put a finger on why, and she's

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so wrapped up in the concert and all the periphery

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around it that you know, she just sort of says, oh, Dad,

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just sort of come back and stop leaving, because he

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constantly gets out from next to her and says he'll

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be back in in a few minutes. And it's readily

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relatable because unfortunately, as we've talked about in this day

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and age, we're acutely aware of the threat that being

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in a gathering, large gathering in particular poses. And I mean,

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I thought that Josh Hartnett, who we don't see a

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lot of, actually he does a fine job portraying the

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disingenuous father. There's a real awkwardness about him and his smile.

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That smile of his is creepy, so he can all

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but see his mind ticking over. I thought Aeriel Donohue, well,

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she was quite impressive as the enthusiastic daughter enjoying one

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of the best days of her life. And I really

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enjoyed Selika Shay Marlin as the woman of the moment.

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She's actually a performer. I think she pens something like

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fourteen songs for this picture, So she's a singer and

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she's a woman, plays the woman who needs to keep

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her wits about her in her prominence within society. I

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thought the production design on Trap was really first rate.

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I really appreciated the settings, the cinematography, and the sound,

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and we kind of moved from this typical concert scenario

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to quiet suburbia. So yeah, well, m night. Charl Marlin

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has had his knockers since his big splash a quarter

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of a century. It's hard to believe have gone by

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since the sixth Tenths, which received six Oscar nominations. I

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might say I reckon. I've enjoyed several of his movies.

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This is another that well and truly passes Mustard. It's

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a good film. Sure you need to suspend belief, but

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just go with it. Enjoy the wild ride. What do

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you reckon? Greg?

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Well, like so many so many of the other films,

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are driven by an intriguing premise. As I said a

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while ago, but with so many of these other previous films,

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it's just Begen Tolu his momentum and credibility, especially during

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the protracted and unnecessarily drawn out through that act in

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which she gives us not one any, not two any,

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but three anyips.

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I'm going, doesn't he? And look you've.

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Gagged around it, but the trailer revealed that Josh Artnet

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is the serial killer, so wish no over it, get

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over That's why he's doing all he is. We know

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it from early on in the film, which is why

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he's doing all these things. And him, like Sriamelin apparently

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described this astountable lecture at a Taylor s Rift concert,

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there you do.

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But I like that, like you. I like the.

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Production design as and the camera work that goes through

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the arena of the stadium as he checks out all

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these possible escape exits and ways to get out of

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the building. I thought it could have developed the character

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of Dr Grant the profile a lot more to increase

445
00:25:27.559 --> 00:25:30.519
that tension of the patt and Mouse game between.

446
00:25:30.640 --> 00:25:32.720
Yeah, there was much. There was. It was almost like

447
00:25:32.799 --> 00:25:35.960
a cameo performed. It was more than a cameo. But

448
00:25:35.960 --> 00:25:39.279
but yeah, there wasn't any real development of peace other

449
00:25:39.359 --> 00:25:43.279
than she was clearly a sort of crusty, sort of

450
00:25:43.319 --> 00:25:47.839
long long serving, highly regarded FBI lead investigator.

451
00:25:47.880 --> 00:25:50.240
How they came that hard they came across there. But

452
00:25:50.359 --> 00:25:53.039
there was a nice hitch cocking patt and mouse game

453
00:25:53.119 --> 00:25:55.640
there as stray Schartner's character has to try and figure

454
00:25:55.680 --> 00:25:57.960
out a way to leave the stadium and avoid capture

455
00:25:58.000 --> 00:26:00.440
and out with the police sit so there's some suspense

456
00:26:00.519 --> 00:26:04.519
intention as you follow him there. I thought the atmosphere

457
00:26:04.599 --> 00:26:07.359
was quite claustrophobic there, and the staging for the concert

458
00:26:07.359 --> 00:26:11.079
itself was quite elaborate there as well. The concert sequence

459
00:26:11.200 --> 00:26:13.920
was apparently actually film live on safe to create this

460
00:26:14.039 --> 00:26:15.599
authentic live.

461
00:26:15.799 --> 00:26:18.079
Yes, and so they would have so they basically would

462
00:26:18.119 --> 00:26:21.359
have got all these extras into watch shit. Wow, I

463
00:26:21.359 --> 00:26:23.839
mean I thought it was I loved the concert setting.

464
00:26:23.880 --> 00:26:28.440
I thought it was really effective. And the camera that

465
00:26:28.599 --> 00:26:32.279
was trained on Josh Hartnett, that's skittishness about him, it

466
00:26:32.359 --> 00:26:33.079
really works.

467
00:26:33.359 --> 00:26:34.839
Yeah, I thought he did it. I thought he brought

468
00:26:34.880 --> 00:26:37.759
some charm that's way a qualities his role here as

469
00:26:37.759 --> 00:26:40.400
the occasionally goofy dad there. And I thought he completely

470
00:26:40.400 --> 00:26:43.640
inhabited the character there, and several of Shamulin's films have

471
00:26:43.759 --> 00:26:47.119
explored a character with this drill personality, most notably Think

472
00:26:47.200 --> 00:26:50.799
James McAvoy in Split There. But I thought Heartnet played

473
00:26:50.799 --> 00:26:53.720
down the more psychotic nature of his character here, although

474
00:26:53.720 --> 00:26:56.200
it still makes here a slightly unnerving and creepy character

475
00:26:56.519 --> 00:26:58.920
doing him a hard head fit, and there's some sort

476
00:26:58.920 --> 00:27:01.480
of perverse pleasure in watching him try it out with

477
00:27:01.559 --> 00:27:04.640
the authidies here. But I said the song goes on

478
00:27:04.720 --> 00:27:07.680
a bit too long there with his three innings, And

479
00:27:07.720 --> 00:27:11.480
apparently I was reading that this was apparently inspired by

480
00:27:11.519 --> 00:27:14.319
a real life nine eighty five sing operation when the

481
00:27:14.319 --> 00:27:17.640
police arrested some hundred felons at a convention center by

482
00:27:17.880 --> 00:27:20.680
under the pretexts of offering free NFL did it as

483
00:27:20.720 --> 00:27:21.759
a way to flash from out.

484
00:27:22.400 --> 00:27:24.599
Yeah, I mean that's not the first time that's happened.

485
00:27:25.319 --> 00:27:27.960
And people's egos get in the way as well, and

486
00:27:28.519 --> 00:27:32.279
I can get something for nothing. So interesting. Okay, So Peter,

487
00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:36.960
you like quite liked it? Yeah, and Peter, did you

488
00:27:37.000 --> 00:27:39.799
accept I mean, I suppose Greg and I are similar

489
00:27:39.799 --> 00:27:42.359
in as much as I really enjoyed it. But I

490
00:27:42.400 --> 00:27:45.720
thought yeah, it just the twists and twists and twists.

491
00:27:46.000 --> 00:27:47.480
Is that where it lost you?

492
00:27:49.640 --> 00:27:55.079
To some extent. I think the concert sequences are very

493
00:27:55.119 --> 00:28:00.680
well directed, very well staged, and in fact m Knight

494
00:28:00.759 --> 00:28:05.720
Shy Marlon even has a cameo appearance in the film

495
00:28:05.839 --> 00:28:13.400
as he serves to somewhat assist the Josh Hartnert character

496
00:28:13.519 --> 00:28:19.480
and his daughter. But I don't know. The film started

497
00:28:19.519 --> 00:28:22.599
to lose me in terms of its plotting as soon

498
00:28:22.640 --> 00:28:26.240
as they left the concert, and that's where I had

499
00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:29.400
a problem with the film because I think that's where

500
00:28:29.839 --> 00:28:35.559
a lot of Shy Marlin's ideas started to dissipate. And

501
00:28:35.880 --> 00:28:40.400
I must say the setup in the concert was very good,

502
00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:45.440
but I don't think the character was particularly well developed.

503
00:28:45.480 --> 00:28:47.920
As in Josh Hartnet's character.

504
00:28:47.839 --> 00:28:49.839
You're wanting the wise and wherefore was are you? In

505
00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:51.279
terms of what made him what he is?

506
00:28:51.839 --> 00:28:54.359
I think so, I think there needs to be some

507
00:28:54.480 --> 00:29:00.880
sort of motivating factor which is missing in the film.

508
00:29:01.359 --> 00:29:05.359
It just seems a little bit downpat Although it was

509
00:29:05.599 --> 00:29:08.119
I thought it was really nice to see Hailey Mills,

510
00:29:08.640 --> 00:29:13.200
who at age seventy eight is was cast in as

511
00:29:13.200 --> 00:29:15.880
a profiler in the film. I thought, do you agree.

512
00:29:15.920 --> 00:29:17.880
Do you agree with Greg that it could have been

513
00:29:17.880 --> 00:29:23.079
developed further? She was just there, right, Yes, she was

514
00:29:23.119 --> 00:29:28.319
the one who had the she was the authority figure. Yes, yeah,

515
00:29:27.960 --> 00:29:30.400
where was that right? Yes?

516
00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:33.680
I agree, And that's part of the plotting that needed

517
00:29:33.720 --> 00:29:39.279
to be developed further, And especially some of the coincidences

518
00:29:39.400 --> 00:29:44.440
that happened in the concert where Hartnett is trying to

519
00:29:44.799 --> 00:29:48.680
escape the trap that he's in. A lot of those

520
00:29:48.799 --> 00:29:52.720
didn't quite ring true for me. I thought they were contrived.

521
00:29:53.440 --> 00:29:57.799
So and I mean, so how I'm just trying to

522
00:29:58.279 --> 00:30:01.480
think of the one hundred and five minutes, how much

523
00:30:01.559 --> 00:30:04.680
of it is set in the concert. It's probably probably

524
00:30:04.680 --> 00:30:05.960
more than half, isn't it.

525
00:30:05.960 --> 00:30:10.039
It's more than half, yes, because the setup is quite

526
00:30:10.640 --> 00:30:16.559
intricate in terms of his daughter performing and so on,

527
00:30:16.880 --> 00:30:17.119
as you.

528
00:30:19.359 --> 00:30:21.079
The way that he gets into the bowels of the

529
00:30:21.079 --> 00:30:24.519
building and befriending somebody, et cetera, et cetera. You've got

530
00:30:24.519 --> 00:30:29.839
to also to spend beliefs to some extent there. And

531
00:30:29.839 --> 00:30:32.240
that's fine. I mean, I went with it. I mean

532
00:30:32.279 --> 00:30:35.240
I think I enjoyed it more night than you guys,

533
00:30:35.319 --> 00:30:38.680
both both of you. Notwithstanding that, yeah, it twisted and

534
00:30:38.720 --> 00:30:41.240
twisted and twisted again, but I think I enjoyed it

535
00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:44.279
more any other remarks, Peter, or we'll get a score.

536
00:30:45.279 --> 00:30:50.039
Look, as I said as soon as he left the concert,

537
00:30:50.559 --> 00:30:54.240
That's where the film started to dissipate for me in

538
00:30:54.319 --> 00:30:58.519
terms of its twists and turns. I thought, how many

539
00:30:58.559 --> 00:31:03.640
contrivances can you build into the plotting? What without revealing anything?

540
00:31:04.279 --> 00:31:07.000
Yes, m nightshell moll and a lot. Okay, so you'll

541
00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:09.599
give it the low score, which is trap M one

542
00:31:09.680 --> 00:31:12.599
hundred and five minutes. What are you giving it? Look?

543
00:31:12.640 --> 00:31:16.240
I thought this was one of his better films, and

544
00:31:16.279 --> 00:31:17.759
I gave it seven out of ten.

545
00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:22.000
Okay, Now what's called greg, I'm going to go six

546
00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:24.720
and a half. Oh well, yeah, I was going to say, Pete,

547
00:31:24.759 --> 00:31:27.680
you've been generous. I'm going seven and a half. So

548
00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:30.279
it averages a seven. That's not a bad mark. No,

549
00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:31.839
it's a decent film.

550
00:31:32.319 --> 00:31:33.720
I would commend it, and I know a lot of

551
00:31:33.720 --> 00:31:36.559
people who did enjoy it, which is in fact Jackie

552
00:31:36.640 --> 00:31:39.920
unfortunately can't be with us today. She did send me

553
00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:43.119
a note at some point. Now going to this is

554
00:31:43.160 --> 00:31:46.720
really entertaining radio. I'm now trying to find Jackie's remark

555
00:31:47.640 --> 00:31:52.160
where she I think she had similar reservations that we've

556
00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:56.880
expressed here, but basically it is what it is. So, yes,

557
00:31:56.960 --> 00:31:59.279
I can't find it for the time half.

558
00:31:59.359 --> 00:32:00.000
I know that much.

559
00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:04.000
She gave you six and a half, yes did she?

560
00:32:04.519 --> 00:32:07.759
Okay? Right, So Jackie, I'm sorry that I can't find

561
00:32:07.799 --> 00:32:12.799
your liais with Jackie on three platforms and I never

562
00:32:12.839 --> 00:32:15.559
know which platform she's right, and I think I do

563
00:32:15.640 --> 00:32:20.519
the same thing. Yeah, anyway, so all right's let's move on. Jaya,

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Now a Romulus Now, I know, Greg, you've seen this

576
00:33:02.799 --> 00:33:08.319
one there, but Peter and Greg, you go back to

577
00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:12.960
the great original and the great sequel. We've talked about

578
00:33:12.960 --> 00:33:16.559
sequels before. Very hard to make two really good movies,

579
00:33:16.839 --> 00:33:22.200
let alone nine really good movies, And I suppose my

580
00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:26.079
overwhelming feeling from this one is disappointment. If it was

581
00:33:26.119 --> 00:33:29.119
one word before we get into the review proper, give

582
00:33:29.160 --> 00:33:32.519
me one word, Peter, Oh sorry, Greg, on what you

583
00:33:32.559 --> 00:33:39.599
would say about this movie on Alien Romulus Starry. All right, now, Peter,

584
00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:41.680
you haven't seen this one yet, but you have seen

585
00:33:41.720 --> 00:33:44.799
the others. Yes, do you think they've gone backwards?

586
00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:51.039
Well, I mean it's the same premise over the idea

587
00:33:51.240 --> 00:33:53.880
of this monster and all that sort of thing. So

588
00:33:54.839 --> 00:33:56.599
how do you make that fresh?

589
00:33:57.000 --> 00:34:01.279
Yes? I totally agree, and that what they've done is

590
00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:03.680
they've done it for a new generation here. Better. What

591
00:34:03.720 --> 00:34:06.119
they've done is they've given us We've never had such

592
00:34:06.119 --> 00:34:09.519
a young cast before. And when you've got a young

593
00:34:09.639 --> 00:34:14.760
cast apart from one, well, you've got a pretty noted

594
00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:20.480
writer and director in Freddy Alvarez who basically he's with

595
00:34:20.559 --> 00:34:26.239
his frequent screenwriting collaborator Rdo c. Jagez and FEddi did

596
00:34:26.480 --> 00:34:29.760
Don't Breathe, which is a terrific movie. So you've got that,

597
00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:32.800
But You've also got Kaylee Spainey, who was so good

598
00:34:32.800 --> 00:34:35.719
in Priscilla and so good in Civil War. So that

599
00:34:35.880 --> 00:34:38.239
but that's the only name I was familiar with Greg

600
00:34:38.280 --> 00:34:40.079
in this movie. Were you familiar with any of the

601
00:34:40.159 --> 00:34:43.800
others Ian home? Oh? Sorry, okay, yes, they've brought but

602
00:34:44.039 --> 00:34:46.800
now that is It's funny you've jumped to that. That

603
00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:49.079
is something that that to me was a highlight of

604
00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:52.440
the movie. To bring him back in the way they did. Yeah,

605
00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:57.360
in the way they did was absolutely mighty, absolutely, like, oh,

606
00:34:58.519 --> 00:35:02.480
it's spying and tinglings and it's brilliant. It really is brilliant.

607
00:35:02.519 --> 00:35:06.239
They've done that with Kerrie Fisher in Star Wars, haven't they.

608
00:35:06.440 --> 00:35:11.559
But and increasingly AI will enable things like this to happen,

609
00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:14.079
and to happen seamlessly, and to believe that they're still

610
00:35:14.079 --> 00:35:17.280
with us. And I think that's fabulous, really fabulous. But

611
00:35:18.440 --> 00:35:22.760
apart from those two, Greg, I didn't recognize anybody, did you.

612
00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:26.840
No, But that's something else. When the first alien came out,

613
00:35:27.199 --> 00:35:30.119
half the cast is supposedly unknowns.

614
00:35:29.599 --> 00:35:32.920
Yeah, valid, valid, I mean this I was doing account.

615
00:35:33.280 --> 00:35:36.920
This is the ninth movie in the franchise, right, it

616
00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:41.280
dates back to nineteen seventy nine, so if that's if

617
00:35:41.320 --> 00:35:45.239
you include the Prometheus films, right, so, and the second

618
00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:47.840
picture was directed by James Cameron. You might remember that

619
00:35:47.960 --> 00:35:52.000
was Alien, so he had Alien then Aliens, and Cameron

620
00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:57.719
actually met with Romulus's co writer and director Alvarez early

621
00:35:57.760 --> 00:36:04.400
in this writing process. So Alvaro's basically was inspired by

622
00:36:05.480 --> 00:36:10.840
deleted scenes from that movie from Aliens. So that specifically

623
00:36:10.880 --> 00:36:13.679
involved a bunch of kids running among the workers in

624
00:36:13.760 --> 00:36:17.599
the colony where they were living, right so the mining colony,

625
00:36:17.920 --> 00:36:20.000
and he thought about what it would be like for

626
00:36:20.079 --> 00:36:22.519
these teens to grow up and what would happen to

627
00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:25.519
them when they reached adulthood. So that was the spark

628
00:36:25.920 --> 00:36:30.400
that started Alien Romulus. So this is set it's meant

629
00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:34.480
to be part of a trilogy of existing movies. So

630
00:36:34.719 --> 00:36:37.159
it's set about twenty years after the first Alien movie

631
00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:42.559
and some thirty seven years before Aliens, which came out

632
00:36:42.599 --> 00:36:45.719
in nineteen eighty six, so obviously nineteen seventy nine, nine

633
00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:49.239
and eighty six, but yeah, that's the timing of Romulus.

634
00:36:49.480 --> 00:36:54.360
So you've got a character called Rain Carradine, that's the

635
00:36:54.440 --> 00:36:58.800
Kaylee spainy one. She's the movie's protagonist and the heroine.

636
00:36:59.239 --> 00:37:03.119
And she's twenty five years of age and her parents

637
00:37:03.159 --> 00:37:06.079
have died, but she wants a better life for herself

638
00:37:06.519 --> 00:37:12.199
somewhere far beyond the mining planet Jackson's Star, which is

639
00:37:12.199 --> 00:37:15.320
the colony where she lives. And she and a small

640
00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:19.599
group of others common deer an old spaceship named Corbulin,

641
00:37:20.440 --> 00:37:23.960
and they head for a decommissioned space station, hoping to

642
00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:27.599
find fuel to take them to a new world. That's

643
00:37:27.639 --> 00:37:31.480
it in a nutshell. And these space colonizers include Rain's

644
00:37:31.480 --> 00:37:36.199
brother Andy, played by David Johnson. You've got a synthetic

645
00:37:37.239 --> 00:37:42.480
or biomechanical humanoid who's very protective of her. That's what

646
00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:49.000
Andy is, is a synthetic And you think about synthetics. Well,

647
00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:52.000
the first to be introduced, Greg to the Alien franchise,

648
00:37:52.679 --> 00:37:56.000
was played by a home correct that was I think

649
00:37:56.000 --> 00:37:58.679
his name was Ash. Wasn't it better at the time.

650
00:37:58.760 --> 00:38:02.199
I don't know whether you remember, but no, anyway, that

651
00:38:02.599 --> 00:38:06.000
was so okay. That's back to the future now. Among

652
00:38:06.039 --> 00:38:11.400
the other youngsters on board this commanded spaceship Tyler played

653
00:38:11.400 --> 00:38:15.000
by Archie Reno, whose Reign's ex boyfriend. He also works

654
00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:19.400
in the mines and then you've got his sister Kaye

655
00:38:19.920 --> 00:38:25.960
played by Isabella merced So the corbelin the old spaceship

656
00:38:26.039 --> 00:38:30.239
is piloted by the tech savvy Navarro played by Eileen

657
00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:33.760
Wu and Eileen Wood was taken in, not ali Wo.

658
00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:38.480
Navarro was taken in by Bjorn's family, Biorn played by

659
00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:44.519
Spike Fern, taken on by On Jackson Starr, and now

660
00:38:44.760 --> 00:38:48.920
Navarro thinks of Bjorn as a brother, and of course

661
00:38:49.239 --> 00:38:52.840
Biorn therefore is also part of the expedition. So Corblin

662
00:38:52.880 --> 00:38:56.760
docks with the decommissioned and derelict space station Renaissance. But

663
00:38:56.880 --> 00:39:01.960
little dos A crew realize that while scavenging around Renaissance,

664
00:39:02.679 --> 00:39:05.960
it's got a couple of modules, Romulus and Remus, they

665
00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:10.480
will awaken the most terrifying organism in the universe. Of course,

666
00:39:10.480 --> 00:39:16.280
that's where Alien and Aliens kicks off. So Robulus, Well,

667
00:39:16.440 --> 00:39:17.880
it seems to take an age to get to the

668
00:39:17.880 --> 00:39:20.320
starting line, to get to any real excitement as far

669
00:39:20.320 --> 00:39:23.320
as I'm concerned, the awakening of these aliens. And in

670
00:39:23.360 --> 00:39:26.239
the meantime there's lots of crashing and banging, there's opening

671
00:39:26.239 --> 00:39:32.519
and closing of doors, and obviously, accordingly massive metallic sounds. Now.

672
00:39:33.079 --> 00:39:35.320
I don't know about you, Greg, but I found it

673
00:39:35.400 --> 00:39:39.519
difficult to understand the conversation between the youngsters ahead of

674
00:39:39.519 --> 00:39:42.840
the commandeering Corbelin. I found it difficult because of all

675
00:39:42.840 --> 00:39:49.480
the background noise. It was almost non intelligible. And before

676
00:39:49.519 --> 00:39:51.960
the aliens take over and start running a mark, the

677
00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:56.079
movie establishes the dynamic between the colonizers. Thereafter we get

678
00:39:56.079 --> 00:39:59.000
the growth of the aliens into the vicious beings that

679
00:39:59.039 --> 00:40:03.599
they are. But I'm afraid this is what Peter said

680
00:40:03.760 --> 00:40:08.480
Samul Samul with a few derivative critters, as you inevitably

681
00:40:08.519 --> 00:40:10.679
get the rest of the pictures about getting the hell

682
00:40:10.719 --> 00:40:14.960
away from Renaissance and the dangers within it. And one

683
00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:16.639
thing you can be sure of is that there will

684
00:40:16.679 --> 00:40:19.760
be casualties. It's just a question of who and in

685
00:40:19.760 --> 00:40:23.639
what order. So I can't say that I was all

686
00:40:23.639 --> 00:40:27.079
that enamored by the acting, although Katie Spainey does a

687
00:40:27.239 --> 00:40:31.519
serviceable job as rain Look, I found the whole thing underwhelming,

688
00:40:31.559 --> 00:40:35.559
and I was over Romulus before the final credits rolled,

689
00:40:35.800 --> 00:40:39.199
so to give its proper title Alien Romulus rated M

690
00:40:39.719 --> 00:40:41.880
runs for one hundred and nineteen minutes, so just a

691
00:40:41.920 --> 00:40:44.519
minute shy of two hours, and yeah, apart from me

692
00:40:44.559 --> 00:40:48.039
and I, I wasn't really taken by it, Greg, what about.

693
00:40:47.920 --> 00:40:50.840
You, Well, this is more of us horror movie than

694
00:40:51.920 --> 00:40:56.760
a sci fi film, given Fedia alva Verza's history of

695
00:40:56.760 --> 00:40:59.840
films like Don't Breathe in that this plays out more

696
00:40:59.880 --> 00:41:03.199
like the horror film are Those monsters are actually quite

697
00:41:03.280 --> 00:41:06.239
nasty and scary in Hiss Run, especially those crab light

698
00:41:06.320 --> 00:41:08.880
creases that Scotland run all over the place, and it's

699
00:41:08.880 --> 00:41:11.280
had people. You get lots more of the monster here,

700
00:41:11.320 --> 00:41:14.320
sure than we did in the ritual film. Clearly Spaining,

701
00:41:14.360 --> 00:41:15.920
I think did a good job as a sort of

702
00:41:15.960 --> 00:41:21.800
point sized variation on Siborney Weavers. Yeah, but the same.

703
00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:25.239
They repeat some of the same beats from the first

704
00:41:25.239 --> 00:41:28.920
few films, including a monster bursting out of someone's chest

705
00:41:29.280 --> 00:41:33.440
and the iconic lines from Aliens as well. But I

706
00:41:33.559 --> 00:41:37.679
quite the Georgia. I thought that the production design, the darkness,

707
00:41:37.719 --> 00:41:39.960
lighting and all that kind of stuff added to the

708
00:41:40.480 --> 00:41:43.719
uncertainly in the scariness of the film. But yeah, look,

709
00:41:43.719 --> 00:41:47.639
the human characters pretty much planned ciphers, and you don't

710
00:41:47.639 --> 00:41:51.159
particlarly care part from one or troom whether they get

711
00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:52.800
really or not.

712
00:41:53.679 --> 00:41:56.639
Yeah, I just didn't think there was enough character development.

713
00:41:56.719 --> 00:41:59.760
Quite faintly. I would have liked more of that. And

714
00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:03.360
I was do you agree that it took forever to

715
00:42:03.400 --> 00:42:05.639
get to the starting line before we saw the first Alien?

716
00:42:05.679 --> 00:42:07.960
I mean, I understand they were establishing it all, but

717
00:42:08.320 --> 00:42:11.000
you didn't they didn't do a particularly good job because

718
00:42:11.000 --> 00:42:13.079
you didn't really care well.

719
00:42:12.960 --> 00:42:14.239
In the first one. You saw a long time. If

720
00:42:14.280 --> 00:42:17.079
we've got the Aliens, say as well, so they're sort

721
00:42:17.079 --> 00:42:20.039
of honoring some of the what Ridley Scott did do

722
00:42:20.199 --> 00:42:20.800
first film.

723
00:42:21.199 --> 00:42:23.960
Yeah, I suppose. So I'm going to go label on this.

724
00:42:24.400 --> 00:42:26.599
I'll give it a five out of ten, just a pass.

725
00:42:26.679 --> 00:42:30.039
What about you, Greg, I'll do it six and a half. Okay,

726
00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:32.519
so you clearly thought more of it. I haven't read

727
00:42:32.519 --> 00:42:35.280
other reviews. I don't know how it's gone. Somebody said

728
00:42:35.280 --> 00:42:38.000
to me that the Herald Son gave it a very

729
00:42:38.039 --> 00:42:40.960
good review, I sort of an eight out of ten.

730
00:42:41.320 --> 00:42:43.960
I'm not sure that's true. I haven't read it, but yeah,

731
00:42:44.039 --> 00:42:48.199
Leu Patch gave it for four stars. Wow. And have

732
00:42:48.320 --> 00:42:50.119
you seen anybody else's thoughts?

733
00:42:51.079 --> 00:42:51.800
Sharon Hurst?

734
00:42:51.880 --> 00:42:56.280
Sharon gave it four wow? Okay, Now I was you know,

735
00:42:56.880 --> 00:42:59.519
I took a friend of mine who loves sci fi

736
00:43:00.159 --> 00:43:02.800
and he's not a big movie goer, and he rang

737
00:43:02.880 --> 00:43:05.599
me up in the nicest possible way to abuse me

738
00:43:05.639 --> 00:43:09.800
for taking him to such an S dot dot t film.

739
00:43:10.039 --> 00:43:12.000
There you go. They was just a member of the

740
00:43:12.039 --> 00:43:14.800
public who couldn't stand it, and he loves sci fi,

741
00:43:16.039 --> 00:43:20.400
just thought it just didn't get anywhere. And it's interesting

742
00:43:20.400 --> 00:43:22.880
that there was a couple of it wasn't It was

743
00:43:22.920 --> 00:43:25.840
only like a half full cinema, maybe three quarters that

744
00:43:25.880 --> 00:43:29.320
we saw the media preview in. And when I was

745
00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:33.159
chatting to the people who were around me, the young

746
00:43:33.239 --> 00:43:35.320
lady in front of me, who looked like she was

747
00:43:35.320 --> 00:43:40.400
in her twenties, she hadn't seen the original, and she said, oh, yeah,

748
00:43:40.400 --> 00:43:42.960
this was quite good. So I reckon, I don't need

749
00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:43.440
to manage that.

750
00:43:43.480 --> 00:43:44.880
You haven't seen you rituals anyway.

751
00:43:44.960 --> 00:43:47.719
For this one, I don't think it does either set up.

752
00:43:48.199 --> 00:43:48.559
I don't know.

753
00:43:48.599 --> 00:43:50.199
It's a bit of a sival. It sort of stands

754
00:43:50.280 --> 00:43:54.639
up by itself, so as alone.

755
00:43:54.519 --> 00:43:58.920
Yeah, I think that's probably true. Let me so, Okay,

756
00:43:58.920 --> 00:44:03.239
we've given our score. I want to talk a bit

757
00:44:03.280 --> 00:44:05.320
more about Murder for two, which I'm raving about at

758
00:44:05.320 --> 00:44:08.960
Fairfax Theater because it's one of the cleverest and funniest

759
00:44:08.960 --> 00:44:11.480
pieces of musical theater that I've had a good fortune

760
00:44:11.480 --> 00:44:13.960
to see. And it's a triumph of writing, performance and

761
00:44:14.519 --> 00:44:18.519
also direction. And it is an outrageous murder mystery a

762
00:44:18.559 --> 00:44:22.960
comedic who done it with two actors filling thirteen roles,

763
00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:27.559
and one of those two filling twelve of the thirteen.

764
00:44:28.559 --> 00:44:33.320
Now it's accommodation of mayhem and mirth and music, and

765
00:44:33.360 --> 00:44:36.519
what a heady combination it makes, or they make. So

766
00:44:36.920 --> 00:44:41.320
here's the premise. Dahlia Whitney is planning a surprise birthday

767
00:44:41.360 --> 00:44:46.960
party for her lauded and prolific author husband Arthur. Okay,

768
00:44:47.000 --> 00:44:51.000
so imagine this, Greg and Peter while I'm going through this,

769
00:44:51.079 --> 00:44:54.239
and think of Agatha Christie now in attendance as several

770
00:44:54.280 --> 00:44:58.239
of his friends. Arthur's friends. They included his niece Steph

771
00:44:58.440 --> 00:45:03.519
who's studying a graduate degree in criminology, psychiatrist called Dr Griff,

772
00:45:03.880 --> 00:45:08.480
and a prima Ballerina Brett Lewis. You've got Whitneys, bickering

773
00:45:08.519 --> 00:45:13.719
neighbors Murray and Barb Flandon, and the three remaining members

774
00:45:13.760 --> 00:45:18.599
of All Boys choir. Timmy, Yonkers and Skid are their names,

775
00:45:18.719 --> 00:45:21.920
and there's a firefighter called Henry Vivaldi who will also

776
00:45:21.960 --> 00:45:25.239
put in an appearance later. So the lights are turned out.

777
00:45:25.880 --> 00:45:27.920
You have either of you gone to any surprise birthday

778
00:45:27.960 --> 00:45:36.800
parties in your lifetime? No? Never? No? Well, Greg, no, oh, okay,

779
00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:39.599
I'm sorry. I've been to quite a few of them,

780
00:45:39.719 --> 00:45:42.480
and I kind of liked them. You know, it's especially

781
00:45:42.519 --> 00:45:45.880
when person has no idea anyway. Lights are turned out

782
00:45:46.320 --> 00:45:51.360
and gunshown. Gunshots ring out, and there is Arthur lying

783
00:45:51.480 --> 00:45:55.719
dead in a pool of blood. Now we never see Arthur, right,

784
00:45:56.199 --> 00:46:00.119
so he's just talked about first time the seener Officers

785
00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:06.840
Marcus Moscal Moskowitz and an unseen colleague called lou is

786
00:46:06.880 --> 00:46:10.079
also an officer, and they're waiting for the investigator who's

787
00:46:10.119 --> 00:46:13.400
been assigned to the case, Detective Grayson, to arrive. So

788
00:46:13.559 --> 00:46:19.079
Officer Moskovitz has been traumatized by a past relationship with

789
00:46:19.199 --> 00:46:22.719
former partner Vanessa, who we also don't see, and he's

790
00:46:22.719 --> 00:46:24.920
apt to prove to the chief that he's worthy of

791
00:46:24.960 --> 00:46:29.360
promotion due to his knowledge of crime scene protocol, and

792
00:46:29.440 --> 00:46:32.360
as such, he sets about trying to solve the crime

793
00:46:32.599 --> 00:46:37.079
before Detective Grayson gets there, and he begins interrogating the partygoers,

794
00:46:37.480 --> 00:46:42.679
all of whom are suspects. The plot thickens as it

795
00:46:42.719 --> 00:46:45.519
appears each one of them had their reasons for wanting

796
00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:48.199
Arthur done away with. Okay, so you can see greg

797
00:46:48.559 --> 00:46:52.000
where the analogy to Agatha Christie books comes in right.

798
00:46:53.079 --> 00:46:56.599
So Murder for Two takes the best ingredients of Agatha

799
00:46:56.679 --> 00:47:01.639
Christie and kicks it up several notches with unbridled hilarity.

800
00:47:02.280 --> 00:47:07.719
It's been written by Kelen Blair and Joe Canossian. Lyrics

801
00:47:07.719 --> 00:47:12.239
are by Blair, music by Canossian, and it's so witty

802
00:47:12.360 --> 00:47:16.679
and so wonderful. It premiered back in two thousand and

803
00:47:16.960 --> 00:47:22.039
eleven at the Chicago Shakespeare Theater, and this Hayes Theater production,

804
00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:26.440
directed by Richard Carroll, is bursting with energy and vibrancy.

805
00:47:27.159 --> 00:47:30.239
The performers a Maverick Newman who takes to the stage

806
00:47:30.320 --> 00:47:35.599
in a flamboyant pink top, and Gabby Volt. They are sensational,

807
00:47:36.360 --> 00:47:41.440
their stage craft incredible. Their repartee Heaven on a stick,

808
00:47:42.559 --> 00:47:45.800
You've got a black baby grand piano set a stage.

809
00:47:46.119 --> 00:47:50.440
They tickle the ivories brilliantly together and then one by one,

810
00:47:50.639 --> 00:47:54.000
so they're sitting alongside each other, they're putting their hands

811
00:47:54.000 --> 00:47:58.440
over one another, and they are just phenomenal. And so

812
00:47:59.760 --> 00:48:02.760
then one of them takes the piano, the other eights

813
00:48:02.800 --> 00:48:06.079
and sings up a storm. Neither misses a beat. It

814
00:48:06.239 --> 00:48:09.800
is faultless. As the action unfolds at a rapid rate.

815
00:48:10.840 --> 00:48:13.320
Newman is the one who fills a multiplicity of roles

816
00:48:13.519 --> 00:48:19.239
and switches characters seamlessly and so acrobatically, as if shelling Peas,

817
00:48:20.119 --> 00:48:23.719
and puts on a comic tour de force, matching him

818
00:48:23.719 --> 00:48:27.360
stride for stride, often as the exasperated fall guy is Bolt.

819
00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:34.280
What an amazing dynamic combination. What a treat. The highlights

820
00:48:34.280 --> 00:48:38.280
are plentiful, including Human flinging himself about the stage literally

821
00:48:38.679 --> 00:48:43.119
sort of incredibly in a grand look at Me performance,

822
00:48:43.400 --> 00:48:48.000
and Newman miming with Bolt at the piano and singing Wow.

823
00:48:49.239 --> 00:48:52.159
Shannon Burns has done a mighty job choreographing all the

824
00:48:52.239 --> 00:48:55.760
right moves. You've got this wood paneled backdrop, complete with

825
00:48:56.280 --> 00:49:00.599
lots of books, providing a strong sense of play, and

826
00:49:00.639 --> 00:49:05.280
the second costume design at Kirthy Subrumbian has done a

827
00:49:05.320 --> 00:49:09.519
great job. It's grand entertainment. Murder for two laughs are

828
00:49:09.559 --> 00:49:13.960
turned up at every turn, so much fun with the

829
00:49:14.039 --> 00:49:16.719
ultimate and the most Fulsome praise I can possibly give

830
00:49:17.000 --> 00:49:20.840
left to the two performers, Maverick Newman and Gabby Bolt,

831
00:49:20.840 --> 00:49:25.599
for creating what I see as musical theatrical magic. It

832
00:49:25.679 --> 00:49:28.920
is one. I urge you in capital letters do not

833
00:49:29.239 --> 00:49:33.039
miss it. As I've said, it's very reasonable pricing, well

834
00:49:33.159 --> 00:49:38.440
depending upon obviously everybody's individual financial circumstances, but far cheaper,

835
00:49:38.840 --> 00:49:42.079
far more cheaper, cheapens it. I don't want to say cheaper,

836
00:49:42.280 --> 00:49:44.639
and I've already said it, let's say far more cost

837
00:49:44.639 --> 00:49:48.639
effective than a lot of musical theater productions. Not that

838
00:49:48.679 --> 00:49:51.360
I'm not saying they're not worthy of more, but this

839
00:49:51.519 --> 00:49:54.440
is at least at a level where hopefully more people

840
00:49:54.440 --> 00:49:57.239
can get to it. It's one hundred minutes without interval.

841
00:49:57.400 --> 00:50:00.960
It's on at Fairfax Theater at the Art Center until

842
00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:04.679
the twenty fifth of August. And I am going to

843
00:50:04.719 --> 00:50:08.000
give this the perfect score. This is a ten out

844
00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:13.480
of ten production. It is wonderful, wonderful entertainment, and it's

845
00:50:13.519 --> 00:50:16.159
the first perfect score I've given to anything this year.

846
00:50:16.199 --> 00:50:20.920
Gregory King, there you go. You go so yeah, and Peter,

847
00:50:21.119 --> 00:50:23.760
if ever I can drag you along to the theater,

848
00:50:24.280 --> 00:50:26.360
this is the one I would want you to see

849
00:50:26.840 --> 00:50:31.679
right now. And it's just it's just so special anyway.

850
00:50:32.119 --> 00:50:37.760
That's that's that. I I also saw an interesting show.

851
00:50:38.119 --> 00:50:45.480
If I mentioned to you, if I use the word suffragette,

852
00:50:46.199 --> 00:50:50.920
can you give me a name, either of you? Emily Pankhurst,

853
00:50:51.199 --> 00:50:54.639
well done, that's the one, Emmeline Pancurs. And that's why

854
00:50:54.679 --> 00:50:57.400
I think most of us would think of Peter. Jenny

855
00:50:57.559 --> 00:51:00.400
j E W N I E with an ex clamation

856
00:51:00.480 --> 00:51:03.159
market put on by Melbourne writeris theater at gas Works

857
00:51:03.199 --> 00:51:07.239
is on now? And I mean this is a story

858
00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:11.360
about another woman associated with a movement called Sarah Jane

859
00:51:11.400 --> 00:51:14.920
Baines who lived from eighteen sixty six to nineteen fifty one.

860
00:51:15.119 --> 00:51:17.519
And she was known as Jenny, and she was a

861
00:51:17.519 --> 00:51:24.000
British Australian feminist and social reformer. And she was driven

862
00:51:24.039 --> 00:51:27.119
to create a more equitable society and she focused on

863
00:51:28.079 --> 00:51:31.719
improving conditions for women and children. And it's a dramatization

864
00:51:31.800 --> 00:51:35.280
of her life story. It combines fact and fiction, and

865
00:51:35.880 --> 00:51:40.159
it moves from London in the eighteen nineties. You'd be

866
00:51:40.159 --> 00:51:43.159
familiar with the term speakers Corner, would you not in

867
00:51:43.199 --> 00:51:49.079
the UK? Greg and Peter, Yeah, exactly, exactly, so she

868
00:51:49.239 --> 00:51:53.599
used to speaker. One of the early scenes is her

869
00:51:53.679 --> 00:51:57.280
pushing for access to food, water and medicine for everybody

870
00:51:57.480 --> 00:52:00.960
at speakers Corner in the British capital right, and that

871
00:52:01.119 --> 00:52:04.199
this is a place where free speech is encouraged. And

872
00:52:05.440 --> 00:52:08.199
this is a woman who is no angel. In fact,

873
00:52:08.239 --> 00:52:12.360
she was jailed no less than fifteen times for these

874
00:52:12.360 --> 00:52:16.679
are my words crimes of insurrection before she her husband

875
00:52:16.719 --> 00:52:20.599
and family were smuggled out of England to Australia to

876
00:52:20.679 --> 00:52:23.920
avoid further punishment. So it's a very interesting story. And

877
00:52:23.960 --> 00:52:26.360
then with her husband George supporting her all the way,

878
00:52:26.400 --> 00:52:29.719
he was a cobbler, ran a successful business, Baines tried

879
00:52:29.719 --> 00:52:35.000
out for a position on an all male council and unfortunately,

880
00:52:35.400 --> 00:52:38.960
again society at the time, it wasn't to be and

881
00:52:39.000 --> 00:52:41.639
she was labeled a communists. She was duly rebuffed. So

882
00:52:41.679 --> 00:52:44.440
it's a very interesting story. I'd actually think it'd make

883
00:52:44.480 --> 00:52:48.880
a very interesting film, quite frankly. And you've got six performers,

884
00:52:49.119 --> 00:52:52.719
a number of whom play different roles, and I was

885
00:52:52.800 --> 00:52:57.239
particularly keen written by Melbourne based playwright called B. W. Shearer,

886
00:52:57.760 --> 00:53:00.880
and it's quite quite insightful into the sights and sounds

887
00:53:00.880 --> 00:53:05.840
of working class neighborhood of Port Melbourne. And alongside when

888
00:53:05.840 --> 00:53:08.760
you're in the foyer there there's a display by the

889
00:53:08.800 --> 00:53:12.519
Port Melbourne Historical and Preservation Society, kind of like a

890
00:53:12.599 --> 00:53:14.800
time capsule of the suburbs. So I thought that sort

891
00:53:14.840 --> 00:53:21.239
of dovetailed very very nicely. The two leads are Marley

892
00:53:21.679 --> 00:53:25.599
Van Debid Jill and she was really really good as Jenny,

893
00:53:27.079 --> 00:53:30.320
a lot of belligerents in the role and the softer

894
00:53:30.440 --> 00:53:37.079
tone of Amir m Zada as her husband. Both are

895
00:53:37.079 --> 00:53:40.239
really polished. But you know, the performances overall were pretty

896
00:53:40.280 --> 00:53:43.639
strong and a big winner. Again the wooden set design

897
00:53:43.719 --> 00:53:48.320
with its nooks, crannies and signage by the set designer

898
00:53:48.559 --> 00:53:51.280
gave me a strong sense of where we were at. So,

899
00:53:51.559 --> 00:53:53.840
you know, quite a commendable work by director Karen Lee

900
00:53:53.920 --> 00:53:57.199
Greg and it is called Jenny J E W N

901
00:53:57.320 --> 00:54:02.559
I E and basic clea. You have till today to

902
00:54:02.599 --> 00:54:05.079
see it, so you know, go along with the last performance.

903
00:54:05.079 --> 00:54:08.079
Why not, absolutely if you can get a ticket because

904
00:54:08.079 --> 00:54:11.280
it's been very very popular. Thank you Greg, Thank you

905
00:54:11.320 --> 00:54:13.440
so much for being with us today, and Peter Kraus

906
00:54:13.719 --> 00:54:16.599
a pleasure to have you too, and we will do

907
00:54:16.639 --> 00:54:20.800
it all again very soon. On First On Film and.

908
00:54:21.119 --> 00:54:26.599
Entertainment and Valet to Jenna Rowlands the yes Yes.

909
00:54:26.840 --> 00:54:29.280
I'm very pleased. I'm so sorry that I didn't mention

910
00:54:29.320 --> 00:54:34.519
it earlier because I agree wow yeah ninety four she was. Yes,

911
00:54:36.599 --> 00:54:40.840
speak to you very soon, Over and out from First

912
00:54:40.880 --> 00:54:42.239
On Film and Entertainment,