S03E11: Media Evolution: From Hey Hey to Streaming Giants

WEBVTT

1
00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:04.799
First on Snap and Entertainment Alex first
with you joining me Greg greek King,

2
00:00:04.879 --> 00:00:07.960
Good morning, sir am I,
good morning, Alison. Wants have told

3
00:00:08.000 --> 00:00:12.599
you again? Now look before we
go any further. I finished last week

4
00:00:12.640 --> 00:00:17.640
and mentioned our colleague unfortunately who passed
away, whose name is Jane and beautiful

5
00:00:17.719 --> 00:00:21.760
human being, that she was one
person that I wanted to speak about that

6
00:00:21.839 --> 00:00:26.320
I didn't get the chance to was
John Blackman's passing, and I wanted to

7
00:00:26.320 --> 00:00:31.079
acknowledge that because I dare say you
and I both grew up watching John Blackman

8
00:00:31.160 --> 00:00:35.079
on Hey Ay at Saturday. I
also worked with him at three AW and

9
00:00:35.399 --> 00:00:39.640
he was quite the personality. So
he's a man who always treated me with

10
00:00:39.679 --> 00:00:44.759
a great deal of respect. Obviously, he enjoyed a fruitful career both on

11
00:00:44.880 --> 00:00:50.359
radio and in television. He made
an ill fated move away from three AW

12
00:00:50.560 --> 00:00:55.759
for a while, which not everybody
agreed with, and in hindsight, maybe

13
00:00:55.799 --> 00:00:59.359
he wouldn't have done. But he
was a loyal three AW man to the

14
00:00:59.439 --> 00:01:03.520
very end. He was speaking to
a lot of AW personalities, et cetera,

15
00:01:03.560 --> 00:01:07.159
et cetera, And I should declare
that on occasions I am also on

16
00:01:07.200 --> 00:01:11.680
three AW, but I've also worked
with the ABC and a number of other

17
00:01:11.920 --> 00:01:15.760
radio stations, so I'm not being
protective of one or another, but I

18
00:01:15.799 --> 00:01:21.120
am talking about what a great guy
John Blackman was. What's your experience with

19
00:01:21.239 --> 00:01:25.200
him? Even as a listener or
watch up. He had a quick and

20
00:01:26.239 --> 00:01:30.120
wonderful sets of humor there and it
was an integral part of the Saturday Family

21
00:01:30.359 --> 00:01:36.120
on those Saturday night shows there with
his little introgentions, as Sticky knew and

22
00:01:36.200 --> 00:01:38.640
some of the comments from the side, I feel it's very, very sad

23
00:01:38.640 --> 00:01:44.359
that we don't have anything on television
at the moment, notwithstanding the comedic elements,

24
00:01:44.400 --> 00:01:48.239
but like the Rove interviews et cetera, et cetera that also took place

25
00:01:48.280 --> 00:01:51.680
in Don Lane and Burt Newton,
et cetera. Where you know, the

26
00:01:51.719 --> 00:01:55.640
stars that come into this country,
often movie stars, et cetera. Where's

27
00:01:55.680 --> 00:02:00.000
their vehicle to appear? Maybe the
morning television programs, Maybe you've got the

28
00:02:00.040 --> 00:02:04.319
project, et cetera, et cetera. But it's not as consistent as it

29
00:02:04.359 --> 00:02:07.400
once was. And I still believe
that it's an audience for that sort of

30
00:02:07.480 --> 00:02:08.960
thing. It's just a question of
tapping into it. But maybe it's too

31
00:02:08.960 --> 00:02:15.439
expensive, I'm not sure A probably
is now yeah, I mean, it's

32
00:02:15.800 --> 00:02:20.960
it's interesting the changes that are taking
place in media and the media landscape quite

33
00:02:21.080 --> 00:02:25.319
quite significantly different. Of course,
this week we hear about more retrenchments at

34
00:02:25.919 --> 00:02:31.319
commercial television and free too wear TV
very very difficult thing to sustain, very

35
00:02:31.319 --> 00:02:36.759
difficult, and even a number of
the so called reality programs they cost so

36
00:02:36.879 --> 00:02:40.800
much to put to wear that they're
being pulled. Not that they're not getting

37
00:02:40.919 --> 00:02:46.000
ratings, but they're just too expensive
and stations can't afford it. Having said,

38
00:02:46.199 --> 00:02:50.240
what you already already is though,
that when they first started, they

39
00:02:50.280 --> 00:02:53.840
thought that all these reality TV shows
would be cheaper to produce than scripted dramas.

40
00:02:54.280 --> 00:02:57.800
That's quite true, that's quite true. But I mean, I don't

41
00:02:57.840 --> 00:03:01.840
know, do you do you watch
anything like say, s ority TV shows.

42
00:03:01.879 --> 00:03:07.280
I think yes, fatic time go
well, until you've experienced them,

43
00:03:07.319 --> 00:03:09.879
it's it's a it's a general judgment, but I think some are better than

44
00:03:09.879 --> 00:03:14.199
others. There are also many of
them, of course, are mind in

45
00:03:14.319 --> 00:03:19.680
controversy and there, I say,
in a broader sense, sex cells and

46
00:03:19.800 --> 00:03:23.360
that's the reason that they do what
they do. It's it's kind of like

47
00:03:23.919 --> 00:03:29.719
a guilty pleasure. I can honestly
say I don't watch a lot, but

48
00:03:30.080 --> 00:03:32.319
I have watched married at first sight. There you go, I declare,

49
00:03:32.719 --> 00:03:39.479
and it's it's it's this morbid fascination. Call it what you will. But

50
00:03:39.599 --> 00:03:43.439
once you get hooked, you get
hooked. And I suppose that's the same

51
00:03:43.479 --> 00:03:46.520
thing with whatever you do. I
mean, I'm hooked on the mighty fighter,

52
00:03:46.560 --> 00:03:52.039
Guess and and football machine ar I
Gregory. So we took to the

53
00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:58.400
almost obsessive. Of course, I
am upset, I'm obsessed, and I'm

54
00:03:58.439 --> 00:04:00.960
obsessed with seeing Alton beat This is
why I'm not in a happy place at

55
00:04:01.000 --> 00:04:05.120
the moment. Green and talking about
happy place, Yeah, you're not in

56
00:04:05.159 --> 00:04:09.360
exactly a happy place with your side
either, But that's not new, is

57
00:04:09.400 --> 00:04:12.560
it. But I wish I could
play more like they did on Friday night

58
00:04:12.599 --> 00:04:16.199
against Brisbane. I agree, I
was Look, they lost that game in

59
00:04:16.199 --> 00:04:20.040
the first quarter like the rest of
the game they were playing catsh up,

60
00:04:20.160 --> 00:04:24.160
but they were a lot more aggressive, heart at a ball, fast running

61
00:04:24.360 --> 00:04:27.560
and they could go one hundred pointry
change. Yes, in fact, it

62
00:04:27.600 --> 00:04:29.839
was your higher school, wasn't it
for the year, And yet you were

63
00:04:29.839 --> 00:04:32.199
beaten by a highest score or so, and you were within seven points.

64
00:04:32.199 --> 00:04:35.839
I watched that and I thought,
here's your run, here's your run.

65
00:04:35.879 --> 00:04:39.839
And then that fifty meter penalty was
awarded, and that was the end of

66
00:04:39.879 --> 00:04:42.720
the Betty section, so to speak. Getting back to John Blackman, though,

67
00:04:43.279 --> 00:04:46.480
one of the things about him was
his longevity in the media, because

68
00:04:46.800 --> 00:04:51.319
it's hard, it's hard to constantly
have a gig. And I was listening

69
00:04:51.360 --> 00:04:57.040
to an interview I think it was
Late Night, was Last Sunday Night with

70
00:04:57.839 --> 00:05:01.920
Simon Owens and Philip and they were
interviewing Darryl Summers, and they said the

71
00:05:01.959 --> 00:05:08.160
relationship sort of almost started in a
matter of fact way, because he was

72
00:05:08.199 --> 00:05:13.240
this guy in a discombobulated voice in
a booth, and it just sort of

73
00:05:13.839 --> 00:05:17.839
it started with a brief conversation.
Suddenly there was an interjection from upstairs,

74
00:05:18.199 --> 00:05:24.199
I hope I'm representing this accurately,
and then the voiceover man I think it

75
00:05:24.240 --> 00:05:30.040
was Murray Tregoning, became involved,
and soon it became legendary. And I

76
00:05:30.160 --> 00:05:34.480
must be very amusing if you're an
overseas star suddenly appearing on a program and

77
00:05:34.519 --> 00:05:40.439
you get a wooden head on it
and a bit of hair and a cap

78
00:05:40.560 --> 00:05:43.759
suddenly appearing in front of you.
Can you imagine how a number of them

79
00:05:44.279 --> 00:05:46.800
would have felt, what the hell's
going on here? That was part of

80
00:05:46.839 --> 00:05:49.360
their joy because you know, it
wasn't pre emptied, It just happened.

81
00:05:49.560 --> 00:05:54.600
And there was a bit of chaos
about the show too, and we used

82
00:05:54.639 --> 00:05:58.120
to love it. It was such
a popular program, and it lasted for

83
00:05:58.279 --> 00:06:00.839
such a long time because it started
as an afternoon cartoon show, didn't it.

84
00:06:01.279 --> 00:06:05.920
I hate Saturday. That's my recollection
of it. Yesterday Morning parttern show

85
00:06:05.959 --> 00:06:09.959
host you by job or Somebody's here, Yeah, which is so? I

86
00:06:09.959 --> 00:06:15.120
mean, look, TV's obviously changed
irrevocably much now is on on pay TV.

87
00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:17.600
Do you recall we talked about footy
a moment ago that they said,

88
00:06:17.600 --> 00:06:20.399
oh, well, you know,
all all football or cricket, you know,

89
00:06:20.480 --> 00:06:23.959
it'll always be on free to wear. Of course it's not anymore.

90
00:06:24.079 --> 00:06:26.680
If you want to watch every game, you can't tune into Channel seven and

91
00:06:26.720 --> 00:06:31.240
watch every game. You can't,
so you either had to subscribe to you

92
00:06:31.319 --> 00:06:35.720
know, Foxtel or Ko or one
of these services. If you're a footy

93
00:06:35.759 --> 00:06:40.199
enough enough like you and I so
do you? How many games of footy

94
00:06:40.199 --> 00:06:42.639
do you watch or do you only
watch your own team? There's a bit

95
00:06:42.759 --> 00:06:46.160
on who's playing what night and when
they play. I can't watch everything on

96
00:06:46.519 --> 00:06:51.879
over four or five days. Do
you do you subscribe to any of the

97
00:06:51.959 --> 00:06:57.600
services like Netflix et cetera. I
got Netflix, but actually anyone I got

98
00:06:57.639 --> 00:07:00.240
besides Fox Cell And do you watch
much or not? No? Not as

99
00:07:00.279 --> 00:07:05.000
much as I used to when Lockgow
was on. You know, obviously you're

100
00:07:05.000 --> 00:07:09.360
working again, so it makes it
be working, not remotely that. The

101
00:07:09.680 --> 00:07:13.879
other aspect of all of this,
though, is in terms of covering what

102
00:07:13.920 --> 00:07:18.079
we do, namely movies. There
are so many good movies on streaming now.

103
00:07:18.480 --> 00:07:21.560
They pay so much money, right, they really do pay a lot

104
00:07:21.600 --> 00:07:25.639
of money. I was speaking to
somebody the other day who said, I've

105
00:07:25.680 --> 00:07:30.279
just seen the Film of the Year
and it's been downloaded I think from an

106
00:07:30.319 --> 00:07:33.160
American site rather than Australian one,
because he's got access to it. But

107
00:07:34.120 --> 00:07:39.720
it's it's one of those things that
if you you missed them. I don't

108
00:07:39.720 --> 00:07:46.240
think it'll be too long before a
streaming service film wins Best Picture at the

109
00:07:46.240 --> 00:07:48.959
Oscars. I think that's why we're
adding, And you know, I know

110
00:07:49.079 --> 00:07:54.319
that it's not what a lot of
people want, but you can't. You

111
00:07:54.360 --> 00:07:58.680
can't prevent change. And that's I
think we were having this conversation, was

112
00:07:58.680 --> 00:08:03.120
it last week? We're talking about
the potential well death of a number of

113
00:08:03.199 --> 00:08:09.360
cinemas because people aren't going out and
watching movies. They're watching it in there,

114
00:08:09.360 --> 00:08:11.279
in the privacy of their own homes. And they're doing that increasingly as

115
00:08:11.519 --> 00:08:18.160
televisions get bigger and brighter and better. And you know, you can be

116
00:08:18.199 --> 00:08:22.399
there in your underwear if you want. Nobody's going to question it. It's

117
00:08:22.439 --> 00:08:26.399
a more convenient form of attending.
Having said that, let's talk about a

118
00:08:26.439 --> 00:08:30.279
couple of movies. One that it
took me a while to catch up with,

119
00:08:30.319 --> 00:08:33.039
but I'm really pleased I didn't.
I know you've seen it. It's

120
00:08:33.039 --> 00:08:37.480
called Radical and you're on JA eighty
eight FM, Greek King and Alex first

121
00:08:37.480 --> 00:08:39.919
with you. So there's a quote
there from Albert Einstein which says, the

122
00:08:39.960 --> 00:08:45.919
only thing that interferes with my learning
is my education. Now you're an educational

123
00:08:45.919 --> 00:08:50.600
list of many, many decades standing, Greg, I have this to say

124
00:08:50.639 --> 00:08:54.399
to you. I wish that my
education was better and much more practical than

125
00:08:54.399 --> 00:08:58.840
it was. I just think that
there were things that could have been taught

126
00:08:58.840 --> 00:09:03.360
the weren't that would have helped on
a day to day basis, whether it's

127
00:09:03.360 --> 00:09:11.279
about managing finances, whether it's about
driving skills, whether whatever it might be.

128
00:09:11.960 --> 00:09:15.440
I just think that preparing for life. You could argue this is your

129
00:09:15.440 --> 00:09:20.399
parents' responsibility. But you're in a
learning environment five days a week, and

130
00:09:20.879 --> 00:09:24.279
you know, writing long dissertations and
things of that nature that you do in

131
00:09:24.320 --> 00:09:28.960
an English class, and you're an
English teacher. I questioned the real value

132
00:09:30.000 --> 00:09:33.840
in it, you know, learning
learning how to create an email, short,

133
00:09:33.879 --> 00:09:37.080
sharp sentences, things of that nature. I would have found much more

134
00:09:37.120 --> 00:09:39.639
valuable. What do you think when
you were a schooler's sex seniors? The

135
00:09:39.679 --> 00:09:45.200
internit So that is no, that's
true, no, no, But but

136
00:09:45.240 --> 00:09:50.720
I'm trying to get more more well
more more practical fills. Wise, you're

137
00:09:50.720 --> 00:09:54.759
typing at school, which comes into
really well, so that's brilliant and talking,

138
00:09:54.840 --> 00:09:58.639
so that's your skills. Have sett
me out as well, I didn't.

139
00:09:58.919 --> 00:10:03.279
I think that's exactly what I'm talking
about. That's terrific. See,

140
00:10:03.559 --> 00:10:05.080
I went to a school that was
terrific when I started. By the end,

141
00:10:05.200 --> 00:10:07.399
by the time I ended, it
was a start at school that I

142
00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:11.799
don't think anybody wanted to go to. Was that my fault? Maybe I

143
00:10:11.840 --> 00:10:15.519
don't know. No, I did
not enjoy my education at all, wall

144
00:10:15.840 --> 00:10:20.759
I found it tertiary more but I
did not enjoy school one little bit.

145
00:10:20.840 --> 00:10:24.840
At high school. Found it really
if you wanted to learn and somebody else

146
00:10:24.879 --> 00:10:28.159
around you didn't, you'd be bullied
because you wanted to learn. It was

147
00:10:28.600 --> 00:10:33.120
a really toxic environment, which is
most unfortunate. It was, as I

148
00:10:33.159 --> 00:10:37.799
say, the school that initially competed
with Melbourne High and all those it was

149
00:10:37.799 --> 00:10:43.000
a public school. But yeah,
I didn't didn't find it was It gave

150
00:10:43.039 --> 00:10:46.720
me the skill set that I really
wanted and I got most of my socialization

151
00:10:46.960 --> 00:10:52.919
outside school quite frankly. So do
you think it's better now? I mean,

152
00:10:52.960 --> 00:10:58.000
you teach were you teach in a
school? So do you think your

153
00:10:58.519 --> 00:11:03.639
school without naming it, it does
a good job in terms of educating and

154
00:11:03.679 --> 00:11:09.559
preparing its students for the future.
It seems to be. But different schools

155
00:11:09.559 --> 00:11:16.440
offer different programs and all that,
some more geared towards also vet courses in

156
00:11:16.480 --> 00:11:20.559
that kind of thing, which checks
accuse more practical skills as well the stuff

157
00:11:20.559 --> 00:11:24.000
that they used to do in the
old chich school before they close them.

158
00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:26.720
No wait, but Greg, why
do you have to wait till the age

159
00:11:26.759 --> 00:11:30.240
of seventeen to learn those skills?
I don't know, because a lot of

160
00:11:30.279 --> 00:11:33.039
kids sorted by tilers fifteen, I
switched off school, and that's when the

161
00:11:33.159 --> 00:11:39.519
problem starts there they get distressed and
bored. Sure, but I don't anyway,

162
00:11:39.600 --> 00:11:43.039
And Alex, let's talk about the
movie instead of your experience at school,

163
00:11:43.080 --> 00:11:46.919
which is not the same as everyone
else. No, but again,

164
00:11:46.960 --> 00:11:50.320
this is a we're on a podcast
type situation as well as well as in

165
00:11:50.360 --> 00:11:56.200
a radio program, and part of
it movies spark things in you. So

166
00:11:56.399 --> 00:11:58.480
when I was watching this movie,
all these thoughts came to bear. That's

167
00:11:58.519 --> 00:12:03.320
the reason that we're talking about it. And I'm relating it to Albert Einstein's

168
00:12:03.360 --> 00:12:07.519
quote. I mean, right,
the only thing the thing that interferes with

169
00:12:07.559 --> 00:12:11.039
his learning is his education and looks. So it is in a place in

170
00:12:11.039 --> 00:12:16.240
Mexico called Matta Moros, and we're
talking about twenty twelves. It's a new

171
00:12:16.480 --> 00:12:20.159
idealistic teacher that's sort of by the
day with Sergio who arrives at an elementary

172
00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:26.240
school. So it's a poor neighborhood. Poverty's entrenched, crime is rampant,

173
00:12:26.279 --> 00:12:31.960
corruption well is everywhere, and in
many cases, just to survive, children

174
00:12:31.960 --> 00:12:37.320
are dropping out of school very early, right, So basically you talk about

175
00:12:37.799 --> 00:12:41.519
school kids who are twelve years of
age finishing and not going any further because

176
00:12:41.559 --> 00:12:46.919
the parents can't afford not to have
them work or helping them. So there's

177
00:12:46.919 --> 00:12:52.120
a set curriculum with a national test
of knowledge based on that curriculum at the

178
00:12:52.200 --> 00:12:58.919
end of each year, and only
Sergio stirs the pot and he's the one

179
00:12:58.919 --> 00:13:03.120
who totally upends conventional thinking about how
to teach children, how to get through

180
00:13:03.159 --> 00:13:09.320
to them. In that process,
he tests the patiency and the understanding of

181
00:13:09.480 --> 00:13:15.120
the school principal whose name is Chucoh, and he gets other teachers offside.

182
00:13:15.159 --> 00:13:20.399
He actually risks his career by going
swimming against the tide. And his philosophy

183
00:13:20.480 --> 00:13:26.200
is simple, get the children and
he teaches grade six engaged. Get them

184
00:13:26.240 --> 00:13:31.480
engaged, want to get them to
want to learn so they can live up

185
00:13:31.480 --> 00:13:37.519
to their potential. And he does
that by making education fun by turning the

186
00:13:37.519 --> 00:13:41.879
playground into a classroom. But he
does not think have things all his own

187
00:13:41.879 --> 00:13:43.960
way. It's based on a true
story radical. It runs for one hundred

188
00:13:43.960 --> 00:13:48.960
and twenty six minutes to our six
minutes rated m and it focuses on the

189
00:13:50.360 --> 00:13:54.120
character played by Sergio and his passion
and conviction and the impact he has on

190
00:13:54.159 --> 00:13:58.080
those with whom he comes into contact. We also get a firm read on

191
00:13:58.120 --> 00:14:03.840
the head of the school and a
handful of the teacher's twelve year old students,

192
00:14:05.120 --> 00:14:09.840
three of them in particular. Now
among them is one called Paloma.

193
00:14:09.919 --> 00:14:13.799
She's quiet, she's whipped smart.
She lives with her father next to a

194
00:14:13.879 --> 00:14:20.840
rubbish chip like a really horrible,
large, smoldering mess of a rubbish dump.

195
00:14:22.440 --> 00:14:26.840
He barely the father manages to barely
scrape by collecting and selling scrap metal,

196
00:14:28.480 --> 00:14:33.519
and the daughter, Paloma, aspires
to be an aerospace engineer on the

197
00:14:33.559 --> 00:14:37.720
way to becoming an astronaut. And
the second she'd actually see across the border

198
00:14:37.799 --> 00:14:43.559
because it sound sounds she'd here across
into one of the NASA space stations there,

199
00:14:43.639 --> 00:14:48.120
which adds to a frustration. Absolutely
yep, it's out of a rick,

200
00:14:48.519 --> 00:14:52.759
out of a rig, and basically
she may never achieve it. The

201
00:14:52.960 --> 00:14:58.159
second child is Loupe, the oldest
in her family, responsible for looking after

202
00:14:58.200 --> 00:15:03.960
her younger siblings, and she has
a fascination with philosophy. And basically,

203
00:15:03.799 --> 00:15:07.039
I think there are already three children
in the family, and the mother is

204
00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:13.440
pregnant again and Loupe one will for
the fourth time, third time carry the

205
00:15:13.440 --> 00:15:18.240
workload of looking after the baby anyway, and then there's Niko. He's destined

206
00:15:18.240 --> 00:15:24.840
for a life of crime because like
his older brother Cheppi, he's already entrenched

207
00:15:24.840 --> 00:15:31.879
with the gang. And suddenly Niko's
head is turned by this remarkable teacher.

208
00:15:31.159 --> 00:15:35.360
So this is the story of the
children and the story of the teacher.

209
00:15:35.440 --> 00:15:39.320
And I don't know about you,
but I was deeply moved by what I

210
00:15:39.399 --> 00:15:43.720
saw. I teared up several times, did you Greg or not? Did

211
00:15:43.720 --> 00:15:46.080
you tear up? Cheer up?
So really I did not, but I

212
00:15:46.120 --> 00:15:50.720
did feel empathy and moved by the
stories. Well, I thought it was

213
00:15:50.720 --> 00:15:54.799
full of joy and heartache. And
it's a remarkable tale of fortitude in the

214
00:15:54.799 --> 00:16:00.120
face of overwhelming odds. And while
the story itself is compared, it's undoubtedly

215
00:16:00.159 --> 00:16:04.159
the characters that make the film as
good as it is. And the guy,

216
00:16:04.559 --> 00:16:10.000
the teacher, is a revolutionary of
sorts, hence the title right radical,

217
00:16:10.759 --> 00:16:14.679
He's changed the status quo. He's
made possible what for all intents and

218
00:16:14.720 --> 00:16:18.080
purposes, had been impossible. So
the guy, the actor who plays him,

219
00:16:18.080 --> 00:16:22.799
I thought he was terrific, really
good Eugenio do Bears is his name

220
00:16:22.879 --> 00:16:26.879
dB Z, and there's a lot
of humor and heart in the way he

221
00:16:26.919 --> 00:16:30.840
portrays the characters such a natural that
the other one, who I thought was

222
00:16:30.879 --> 00:16:36.960
really good natured, was the principle
really incredulous at what he was seeing.

223
00:16:37.240 --> 00:16:41.840
Is this sort of larger than life
character played by Daniel had Dad Again,

224
00:16:41.879 --> 00:16:45.399
I thought he was very, very
strong, and it's sort of very cynical

225
00:16:45.399 --> 00:16:49.879
and up up at the start,
but it comes most of seriously. Results

226
00:16:51.080 --> 00:16:55.279
is become a champion Surgio, doesn't
He He does very much saying Look,

227
00:16:55.320 --> 00:16:57.039
I thought that the children were terrific, soult of the earth, credible,

228
00:16:57.399 --> 00:17:03.000
each of their own personality, distinct
personalities, wide eyed, pragmatic, but

229
00:17:03.039 --> 00:17:06.960
they dared a dream. And sure, as the premise unfolds, I don't

230
00:17:07.000 --> 00:17:10.799
know, when you say a little
bit more about it, you might agree

231
00:17:10.880 --> 00:17:14.400
or disagree. But I could tell
I was being manipulated to feel a certain

232
00:17:14.440 --> 00:17:17.839
way. But I totally bored into
what was being sold. That's the beauty

233
00:17:17.839 --> 00:17:22.759
of this movie and the photography by
Matteo Lundono. He's really done a great

234
00:17:22.799 --> 00:17:27.599
job. He's made the most of
this evocative third world setting with settings plural

235
00:17:27.759 --> 00:17:33.119
that the film takes place in.
It's based on an article, by the

236
00:17:33.160 --> 00:17:37.720
way, that was written in twenty
thirteen twenty thirteen in Wirde magazine by Joshua

237
00:17:37.920 --> 00:17:42.880
Davis, and that was titled A
Radical way of unleashing a generation of geniuses

238
00:17:44.160 --> 00:17:48.880
Unpleased. They short circuited that to
radical, but that's the starting point for

239
00:17:48.920 --> 00:17:52.200
all of this. I thought it
was a really superbly rendered script, really

240
00:17:52.200 --> 00:17:56.079
fine direction as well from Christopher Zala, and it shows how one person can

241
00:17:56.079 --> 00:18:00.279
make a difference for the greater goods. So I thought it was a rific

242
00:18:00.319 --> 00:18:03.200
film. What did you think?
Great? Yep. Look, Cinet has

243
00:18:03.200 --> 00:18:07.200
given us a lot of inspiring teachers
over the years who disregard the Saffy curriculum

244
00:18:07.599 --> 00:18:11.200
and set down to engage their students, encourage them to think for themselves and

245
00:18:11.319 --> 00:18:17.440
reached the essential people like Robert Donut
in his oscoining performance in Goodbye Mister Chicks

246
00:18:17.680 --> 00:18:21.759
and for a Lesser at sent pedro
Otool in the nineteen sixty nine musical Roommake.

247
00:18:22.160 --> 00:18:25.799
Of course, we had Sidney Poitier
and Deserve with Love, Robert Williams

248
00:18:25.799 --> 00:18:30.960
will called William in Deed, Poets
Society, Michelle Fine for in Dangerous Minds,

249
00:18:30.359 --> 00:18:34.359
Edward James Olmos in Sand and Deliver
Orus Sweet in Freedom Writers, et

250
00:18:34.400 --> 00:18:38.720
cetera, and John Voyd in Conrad. And now we get a Mexican variation

251
00:18:38.839 --> 00:18:44.400
on this theme with radical As you
said, even though it is manipulus,

252
00:18:44.440 --> 00:18:47.720
if you go along for the ride
of this story of this teacher who scherves

253
00:18:47.799 --> 00:18:52.920
up in this small, impoverished village
rife with crime and corruption, and if

254
00:18:52.960 --> 00:18:59.200
he even bucks heads with the local
head of the bureaucracy there, who has

255
00:18:59.279 --> 00:19:04.200
missed appropriate added funds intended to buy
computers for the school, gets him into

256
00:19:04.240 --> 00:19:08.599
trouble as well. When he gets
there, he finds that most of the

257
00:19:08.640 --> 00:19:14.759
school kids there feel there's no escaping
there impoverished circumstances, they've given up,

258
00:19:14.799 --> 00:19:18.319
their parents, don't value education at
all, and this school has the uninviewable

259
00:19:18.359 --> 00:19:23.440
reputation of being one of the worst
performing schools in Mexico. The teachers that

260
00:19:23.559 --> 00:19:27.880
jaded, and all they do is
prepare their students for that standardized government mandated

261
00:19:27.960 --> 00:19:32.680
national exam at the end of the
year. But Sogio comes along up into

262
00:19:32.720 --> 00:19:37.559
the judicial curriculum and said, inspires
the kids to see for themselves in powers

263
00:19:37.559 --> 00:19:41.039
them to follow their own interests,
and they become more engaged with the process

264
00:19:41.039 --> 00:19:45.759
of learning and discovering things for themselves, and we gain insight into as you

265
00:19:45.839 --> 00:19:48.880
pointed out, three of these pupils
there and where become invested in their faiths.

266
00:19:49.559 --> 00:19:53.559
Paloma who has a passion for mass
and science, but who looks like

267
00:19:53.599 --> 00:20:00.519
she's going to be forced to run
the local landfill from a father Lupe,

268
00:20:00.519 --> 00:20:03.680
as you said, who's interested in
philosophy by his books in the library to

269
00:20:03.720 --> 00:20:07.400
read at home, but she's been
forced to stay at home and look after

270
00:20:07.400 --> 00:20:11.359
a new born baby sister. And
Nico setting for a life of crime with

271
00:20:11.440 --> 00:20:18.200
the local Ruggy and actually finding this
whole inspired by Sergio's unorthodox approach. The

272
00:20:18.240 --> 00:20:22.519
film's go into some dark areas at
times they're a little bit grim and that

273
00:20:22.720 --> 00:20:26.559
and the violence of the streets comes
alive there. But that's what gives it,

274
00:20:26.640 --> 00:20:32.440
that's what gives it real and ultimately, you know, if it was

275
00:20:32.440 --> 00:20:33.599
a walk in the park it wouldn't
be the movie that it is. And

276
00:20:34.559 --> 00:20:40.799
basically not everything works out perfectly.
I mean that that's just the and that's

277
00:20:40.839 --> 00:20:45.440
that Unfortunately, that's reality and that's
what that's the reality of the setting where

278
00:20:45.480 --> 00:20:49.000
the film is set. Yeah,
but it's written and addressed by Chris Rasala,

279
00:20:49.039 --> 00:20:53.480
who's a New York based filmmaker who's
films lots of episodes in the law

280
00:20:53.480 --> 00:20:57.680
in order to see the franchise.
This cook is most insightful and moving,

281
00:20:57.960 --> 00:21:02.279
but as you said, it is
also somewhat man to do and it's a

282
00:21:02.279 --> 00:21:06.359
fully a bit of a formula for
this sub job were there. But it's

283
00:21:06.359 --> 00:21:10.680
a real cloud, Greg, We're
dying slowly, right, It's a real

284
00:21:10.720 --> 00:21:14.519
crowd plays that I thought here and
as you said, the performances are great.

285
00:21:15.119 --> 00:21:21.599
Jebez comes across like a Mexican John
Keaty as Sergio there is well cast

286
00:21:21.599 --> 00:21:26.240
in the role as the dedicated and
empathetic teacher. He brings passion, charm

287
00:21:26.279 --> 00:21:30.200
and humor's roots before us there had
as was also solid as by the book

288
00:21:30.240 --> 00:21:33.440
Principal and the Young Students supports of
life by a number of newcomers and non

289
00:21:33.480 --> 00:21:37.839
professionals, many of them in their
first ever film role who bring authenticity to

290
00:21:37.880 --> 00:21:41.720
their roles? Did you like kids? Did you think the kids were as

291
00:21:41.720 --> 00:21:44.079
good as I thought they were?
Yep, I like that. I thought

292
00:21:44.519 --> 00:21:47.000
the three main waves were really good. And at the end of before we

293
00:21:47.119 --> 00:21:51.880
learned about what became a polomer and
her story is truly inspirational. Yeah.

294
00:21:51.920 --> 00:21:55.319
Absolutely, And I mean bear in
mind that this is this is still happening,

295
00:21:55.359 --> 00:22:00.279
this is not the teachers still apparently
at the school, which sort of

296
00:22:00.319 --> 00:22:03.839
gives it even greater cogency. So
what are you going to give this terrific

297
00:22:03.920 --> 00:22:08.039
movie and encourage people to go along
and see radical. I'm going to give

298
00:22:08.079 --> 00:22:11.720
it a notice in Yeah, I'm
giving eight and a half out of ten.

299
00:22:11.799 --> 00:22:12.680
So, yeah, it's one of
the better movies of the year,

300
00:22:12.680 --> 00:22:18.799
without any question. I've really loved
it. Now another one on j eighty

301
00:22:18.839 --> 00:22:22.920
eight FM listened twenty four hours a
day. You've got all sorts of hopefully

302
00:22:22.960 --> 00:22:26.039
intelligent programming and got good music as
well. And if you want to subscribe

303
00:22:26.079 --> 00:22:32.640
fifty four bucks go to jdash air
dot com dot au and we'd love to

304
00:22:32.920 --> 00:22:36.960
get the money because it keeps the
community radio station running. But inside out

305
00:22:37.000 --> 00:22:40.960
too. Now Okay, I remember
the original and I thought, what a

306
00:22:41.000 --> 00:22:45.480
great film, because that won an
Oscar for Best Animated Feature, didn't it

307
00:22:45.559 --> 00:22:51.480
back in twenty fifteen. So it
was a really interesting movie about emotions.

308
00:22:51.599 --> 00:22:57.119
And this is sort of continuing the
same trajectory. You've got the emotions that

309
00:22:57.119 --> 00:23:00.559
were apparent in Inside Out, and
this is a a sort of Disney feature

310
00:23:02.160 --> 00:23:07.000
film. He got joy, fear, anger, disgust, and sadness.

311
00:23:07.319 --> 00:23:11.119
So they were there originally and in
the movie nine years ago. So all

312
00:23:11.160 --> 00:23:15.759
of them are back along with a
new set, and that new set anxiety,

313
00:23:17.400 --> 00:23:25.480
envy, embarrassment, something called n
uiwnui, and even nostalgia puts in

314
00:23:25.519 --> 00:23:30.279
an appearance. So five becomes ten. So the key character is Riley Anderson.

315
00:23:30.519 --> 00:23:34.960
She's the one who was featured in
the original. She's now thirteen,

316
00:23:36.720 --> 00:23:40.960
and so it is that a red
light goes off at headquarters, headquarters being

317
00:23:41.200 --> 00:23:48.200
you feel like her brain, which
undergoes a sudden demolition, and the original

318
00:23:48.279 --> 00:23:52.319
set of emotions are shocked with the
unexpected arrival of what shall we call them

319
00:23:52.400 --> 00:23:57.039
rogue emotions greet and that's when anxiety, envy, embarrassment, and anui come

320
00:23:57.079 --> 00:24:03.000
to the four And as I mentioned
and the storage on we alex on what

321
00:24:03.000 --> 00:24:07.839
what is this on? We as
a fas that's right, they make a

322
00:24:07.839 --> 00:24:11.440
point of it. Yeah, they
It was easy for me to say anui

323
00:24:11.519 --> 00:24:17.200
because it sounds it looks like annui, but annoy whatever you said. Anyway,

324
00:24:17.519 --> 00:24:22.240
we on we on, we on
we and and is called we we

325
00:24:22.440 --> 00:24:26.519
isn't isn't it? At some point? Anyway? This marks the onset because

326
00:24:26.599 --> 00:24:32.720
Riley being thirteen of puberty for her, and that also throws Riley's parents into

327
00:24:32.759 --> 00:24:37.160
a state of confusion because you know, basically they're no longer the flavor of

328
00:24:37.200 --> 00:24:41.400
the month. And and she pushes
back and she throws tantrums, and you

329
00:24:41.440 --> 00:24:45.960
know, that's that's what it's all
about. And I suppose that's where it's

330
00:24:45.960 --> 00:24:48.279
true to life. Puberty can bring
with it all sorts of difficulties for parents

331
00:24:48.279 --> 00:24:53.759
as well as those experiencing that particular
phase of their lives. So Riley and

332
00:24:53.799 --> 00:24:59.559
her two best friends, bri and
Grace, are good ice hockey players,

333
00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:06.279
and they are at short notice invited
to participate in an ice hockey camp which

334
00:25:06.599 --> 00:25:11.680
serves as a tryout for the all
conquering high school ice hockey team and Riley's

335
00:25:11.759 --> 00:25:17.319
rather starstruck when she gets to the
camp and she meets the team star player

336
00:25:17.720 --> 00:25:22.240
called Vow or Tears, and Riley's
faced with a rather difficult choice of trying

337
00:25:22.240 --> 00:25:27.920
to curry favor with Val and with
her teammates, or sticking by her school

338
00:25:27.960 --> 00:25:33.000
friends. So anxiety muscles in on
Joy's territory. I mean, joy was

339
00:25:33.039 --> 00:25:37.759
the biggest emotion that was apparent in
the first one, and anxiety muscles in

340
00:25:37.839 --> 00:25:42.359
now adopting a wintered at all costs
mentality, which will see all the old

341
00:25:42.400 --> 00:25:52.319
emotions shunted into a vault. So
things go rather skew with and while the

342
00:25:52.359 --> 00:25:57.240
old emotions scramble to get back to
her, Riley's left to try to rediscover

343
00:25:57.599 --> 00:26:03.920
her true self. She's basically a
pretty nice person. So like the original,

344
00:26:03.039 --> 00:26:07.680
this one's pretty clever. It's colorful, and it's comedic, and there

345
00:26:07.680 --> 00:26:11.519
are valuable life lessons in play.
But this isn't sort of shoved down your

346
00:26:11.559 --> 00:26:15.359
throat. It's just the way that
the movie unfolds. There are some pute

347
00:26:15.400 --> 00:26:18.079
one liners, and each of the
characters I thought was very well crafted,

348
00:26:18.480 --> 00:26:23.559
So you've got distinct personalities that are
allowed to shine through. So You've got

349
00:26:23.559 --> 00:26:30.119
from uptight to cynical, from good
nature to harryd and collectively they make up

350
00:26:30.559 --> 00:26:33.519
Riley Anderson, this thirteen year old
who, for all her inherent goodness,

351
00:26:33.880 --> 00:26:37.519
does not always do the right thing. That's the nature of human beings,

352
00:26:37.519 --> 00:26:42.680
of course, so her traditional emotions. Grand Adventure also sees them interact with

353
00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:47.319
I counted four characters, Greg,
you might be able to film me in

354
00:26:47.359 --> 00:26:52.240
if you could see anymore. There
was Bluffy Blafy, character from Riley's favorite

355
00:26:52.240 --> 00:26:57.039
television show in her childhood. And
then there's a deep seated purse with a

356
00:26:57.039 --> 00:27:04.200
bag full of tricks called POUCHI and
Lance slash bladeer heroic video game character whom

357
00:27:04.279 --> 00:27:08.480
Riley had a crash on when she
was younger. And I don't remember which.

358
00:27:08.480 --> 00:27:11.200
I remember the name of the the
hulking shadow we figure. I think

359
00:27:11.599 --> 00:27:15.559
Big Dark Secret was that, can
you remember? Or not? Really?

360
00:27:17.039 --> 00:27:19.160
Not really? No, you know
that you know at the very end of

361
00:27:19.200 --> 00:27:23.079
the movie, you stayed to land
with the credits, and that was Big

362
00:27:23.160 --> 00:27:27.039
Dark Secret anyway, That's all I
reckon it was. In terms of voice

363
00:27:27.039 --> 00:27:33.480
talent, Amy Pohla returns in the
key role of Joy and her adversary is

364
00:27:33.960 --> 00:27:38.680
Maya Hawk as anxiety, and then
you've got Kensington Talman cast as the thirteen

365
00:27:38.759 --> 00:27:41.240
year old golf. I thought it
was a lot of fun. It was

366
00:27:41.319 --> 00:27:47.079
wholesome and quite triumphant as a sequel
for Disney. What did you think of

367
00:27:47.359 --> 00:27:53.640
Inside Out to PG rated ninety four
minutes. That's certainly very powerful and perhaps

368
00:27:53.640 --> 00:27:57.119
an emotional most little punch body into
it there, And I like the fact

369
00:27:57.160 --> 00:28:02.519
that they've actually moved on a little
bit from the originals. Now it's more

370
00:28:02.640 --> 00:28:07.000
teenage emotions such as eggs and confusion, embarrassment and all that, and gives

371
00:28:07.240 --> 00:28:11.480
a new different direction there and allow
us for these new carriages you've broke in.

372
00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:15.440
But the film is still full of
how the mind works, with lots

373
00:28:15.440 --> 00:28:19.039
of puns there. I mean,
we've got this time stream of consciousness and

374
00:28:19.640 --> 00:28:22.319
sarcasm, which I loved. You've
got to see the film to get that

375
00:28:22.359 --> 00:28:27.680
one. But yeah, the characters
are quite right and intuligent there. Of

376
00:28:27.680 --> 00:28:32.680
course, Joy is the ficty one
there, trying to keep control of Joy's

377
00:28:32.720 --> 00:28:36.880
emotions and not let it be overrun
by anxiety and all that kind of thing,

378
00:28:37.480 --> 00:28:41.359
which is more of equippling emotion there. The animation is suburb as Pixar

379
00:28:41.480 --> 00:28:45.920
always do there, and it's got
some nice and moral messages there and ulike

380
00:28:45.960 --> 00:28:51.319
a lot of Pixar stuff every Now
it's a film aimed at kids, a

381
00:28:51.359 --> 00:28:53.839
lot of the humor is still aimed
at adults there who will enjoy it as

382
00:28:53.920 --> 00:28:59.400
much as the kids. I think, do you think that? I mean

383
00:28:59.440 --> 00:29:03.079
you enjoy the original? Did you
not? Do you liked it? I'm

384
00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:06.319
just wondering. Nine years have gone
by, the kids that saw it then

385
00:29:06.400 --> 00:29:08.799
have grown up. This has got
a PG rating. Do you think this

386
00:29:08.839 --> 00:29:11.960
will appeal? Like you could see
this without having seen the original? I

387
00:29:11.960 --> 00:29:15.599
reckon you could without any problem at
all. But on both the people are

388
00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:18.599
going to go and see this with
those that saw the original? Or is

389
00:29:18.680 --> 00:29:22.359
it going to be a new generation
because I mean nine years half a generation.

390
00:29:23.440 --> 00:29:26.480
Yeah, but well, a lot
of bet were sorted for original guard

391
00:29:26.480 --> 00:29:30.559
to seat now and there ah will
be chi so I'll probably appreciate how the

392
00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:34.519
character of Riley as sayed, she'd
grown and developed, and Richard or not,

393
00:29:34.680 --> 00:29:37.839
you remember how old she was in
the first one? Was it?

394
00:29:37.920 --> 00:29:41.279
I thought it was only a couple
of years previous, but maybe Yeah,

395
00:29:41.319 --> 00:29:42.759
she's just so so I know you
say down the film was what five years

396
00:29:42.799 --> 00:29:48.119
ago? No? No, the
other film was twenty fifteen. But I'm

397
00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:52.720
wondering in terms of the characterization.
I thought, if I'm not mistaken,

398
00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:56.720
she was only a couple of years
younger. But maybe I don't know.

399
00:29:56.359 --> 00:30:00.000
I haven't checked that out, So
I hope I'm not telling you, poor

400
00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:07.079
pie. Maybe I'm now googling how
old was the girl in Inside Out?

401
00:30:07.119 --> 00:30:14.200
How old was the girl inside Out? For some reason, I seem to

402
00:30:14.200 --> 00:30:19.160
think the year that age eleven is
what stands out in my mind. You

403
00:30:19.200 --> 00:30:23.640
probably don't remember, do you?
There you go, yeah, I'm right,

404
00:30:23.839 --> 00:30:29.319
based on if we believe that Google, she was an eleven year old

405
00:30:29.359 --> 00:30:33.079
girl, right, so only only
affect twelve by the end of the film.

406
00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:37.799
So this sort of really does carry
on, and it carries on most

407
00:30:37.799 --> 00:30:41.960
effectively from Inside Out. What else
would you would you have to say about

408
00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:45.319
the film? Great? Well,
so I think I've said it all.

409
00:30:45.559 --> 00:30:48.279
You've said it all. Well,
okay, so if you've got to give

410
00:30:48.279 --> 00:30:51.319
it a score out of ten inside
Out two? Do you remember what you

411
00:30:51.359 --> 00:30:55.319
gave the original or you don't remember? I gave the original an eight,

412
00:30:56.079 --> 00:31:00.319
and so I'm giving this a seven
and a half. What about you six

413
00:31:00.359 --> 00:31:04.920
and a half to seven? Oh
okay, so okay, Well, look

414
00:31:04.920 --> 00:31:10.400
at sequels don't always work, as
we know that, but for example,

415
00:31:10.400 --> 00:31:17.519
we're seeing the spicable me for and
that's that's franchise carried on quite effectively.

416
00:31:17.519 --> 00:31:22.000
It's I think it's the quirky nature
of those characters. Though that's sort of

417
00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:26.359
made there also been several million shorts
to which keep the interest going. Yeah,

418
00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:30.400
exactly. Look, it's fantastic when
you go along and see effectively a

419
00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:34.880
cartoon. I'm not trying to sort
of make that a negative, but a

420
00:31:34.920 --> 00:31:38.160
cartoon and you think, wow,
this is this is really special. This

421
00:31:38.200 --> 00:31:41.240
has got something in it for adults
as well as children. It's a family

422
00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:48.079
type environment. That's certainly how I
see inside out to Greg, I,

423
00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:52.359
did you ever see or read the
book The Woman in Black? No?

424
00:31:52.359 --> 00:31:59.759
No, you know you know what
the longest running stage show in the UK

425
00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:05.400
is and in the world Left Mountstrabia, Yeah, which is continues et cetera,

426
00:32:05.440 --> 00:32:09.720
et cetera, and just this is
without a question, without notice.

427
00:32:09.839 --> 00:32:15.400
So that's by far the longest running
stage show. Do you know what the

428
00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:23.079
longest running musicals would be in the
West the Opera. Yeah, that's one

429
00:32:23.079 --> 00:32:30.039
of them. So if I if
I google longest running stage shows in stage

430
00:32:30.319 --> 00:32:34.960
shows in the UK, this is
very very good radio when I'm googling,

431
00:32:35.000 --> 00:32:39.359
isn't it. This is called research
you should do before. I did,

432
00:32:39.400 --> 00:32:44.400
in fact do this beforehand, but
I thought i'd do it. Let's it

433
00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:46.279
sound more formatic? Yeah, okay, exactly, Okay, yeah, you

434
00:32:46.319 --> 00:32:51.559
know, dramatic pauses and all that
sort of stuff. Anyway, there's two

435
00:32:52.480 --> 00:32:58.279
musicals that are long running that have
been going for ten thousand or more run

436
00:32:58.559 --> 00:33:01.920
shows each. Lame Is is the
one that stook I remember seeing when I

437
00:33:01.920 --> 00:33:05.119
first saw that, I thought,
my god, it's the best musical I've

438
00:33:05.240 --> 00:33:08.440
ever seen. It still remains up
there, absolutely magnificent, and The Fantom

439
00:33:08.440 --> 00:33:12.279
of the Opera being the other.
So they're the two. So the Mouse

440
00:33:12.279 --> 00:33:15.279
Traps number one, apparently leme misses
number two, Fantom of the Opera number

441
00:33:15.319 --> 00:33:20.519
three. Overall, if you're including
musical theater in theater, but if you're

442
00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:25.319
just doing straight theater, then The
Woman in Black is the second longest running.

443
00:33:25.880 --> 00:33:29.880
In fact, it now finished in
the West End and I think it's

444
00:33:29.920 --> 00:33:35.960
opened somewhere else in the UK.
But it's no neatly Packet's fairy story.

445
00:33:36.160 --> 00:33:37.680
I mean a lot of fairy stories
are dark anyway, aren't they. When

446
00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:43.839
you think about long the original fairy
tiled were it, Yeah, I kin'd

447
00:33:43.880 --> 00:33:46.480
have always It always amuses me that
a lot of them were written by the

448
00:33:46.480 --> 00:33:51.599
brothers Grim, not Grim spelt with
one M, but two. But there's

449
00:33:51.640 --> 00:33:53.839
something prosaic about that. Anyway.
A Woman in Black is on at the

450
00:33:53.839 --> 00:33:57.920
Aftername Theater. It's doing an Australian
tour at the moment. There's got some

451
00:33:58.000 --> 00:34:00.480
pretty well known names in it that
you would probably have heard of, Greg

452
00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:04.720
john Waters being one of them,
and he was in an earlier production I

453
00:34:04.759 --> 00:34:08.280
think, going back to two thousand
and six in Australia in this But anyway,

454
00:34:08.360 --> 00:34:13.639
having said that, Daniel McPherson is
the other one. So it's effectively

455
00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:15.840
a two or three hander, and
I'll explain that in a moment when I

456
00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:20.880
say two or three hander. But
it's a rather dark tale of despair and

457
00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:24.880
revenge. And it's kind of interesting
because you've got the Woman in Black playing

458
00:34:25.239 --> 00:34:30.440
and now at the ath and Am
Theater, and of course you've got Sunset

459
00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:35.000
Boulevard, which is at the Princess
Theater, and both of them are reasonably

460
00:34:35.239 --> 00:34:38.559
well, very dark, you know, in terms of no nice, neat

461
00:34:38.599 --> 00:34:44.320
happy endings and so forth. I
like that. I like the Sunset Boulevard

462
00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:47.079
show is going to close early because
it's been getting bad reviews. But yeah,

463
00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:51.800
well the issue with it, I
can't remember whether you're wrong when we're

464
00:34:51.840 --> 00:34:54.519
talking about it Greek. That the
problem with it. As I see it.

465
00:34:54.519 --> 00:34:59.920
It's a really good show. I
like the darkness. I don't know

466
00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:04.960
problem with that at all, but
having Sarah Brightman's got a terrific voice,

467
00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:08.199
but she's she plays it operatically,
and I didn't want it operatically. I

468
00:35:08.239 --> 00:35:14.119
wanted it to be played as musical
theater, and I was difficult. She's

469
00:35:14.159 --> 00:35:19.559
whilst she she pronounces words very very
carefully when she's speaking. When you're singing

470
00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:25.119
in operatic tones, it's often difficult
to discern what she's actually singing. And

471
00:35:25.199 --> 00:35:30.119
I struggled with that because I and
as I said, I'm not criticizing her

472
00:35:30.119 --> 00:35:37.119
performance per se, but I'm wondering
why it was played operatically. I remember

473
00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:39.800
seeing Deborah burn in it and thinking, wow, this was going back got

474
00:35:39.840 --> 00:35:45.400
twenty eight years ago and thought it
was a terrific show. So yeah,

475
00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:50.440
they've they've cut out performances and they've
been selling I don't know whether they would

476
00:35:50.440 --> 00:35:53.440
have done this anyway, but they've
been selling tickets that are lower than face

477
00:35:53.519 --> 00:35:58.800
value prices and encouraging people to come
along. I'm saddened by the fact that

478
00:35:58.840 --> 00:36:02.000
it isn't doing well because I like
the fact that it's not a straightforward,

479
00:36:02.039 --> 00:36:07.280
happy go lucky musical. Nevertheless,
getting back to the Woman in Black talking

480
00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:13.119
about despair and revenge, this concerns
a man driven to tell his truth after

481
00:36:13.159 --> 00:36:21.320
the death of an elderly reclusive widow
called missus Alice Drablow Drablow and the person

482
00:36:21.360 --> 00:36:27.079
who wants to unload is Arthur Kipps, and he's the character that John Waters

483
00:36:27.079 --> 00:36:30.079
plays, and he is desperate to
unburden himself, to free himself anyway.

484
00:36:30.119 --> 00:36:34.440
He wants to tell his tail of
woe, but he has no elocution skills,

485
00:36:34.800 --> 00:36:40.519
so in a meta type association here
he engages an active meta being m

486
00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:47.599
Eta engages an actor played by Daniel
McPherson to help him to basically get the

487
00:36:47.639 --> 00:36:52.719
best out of the words that he
spenn. And it's had to be cut

488
00:36:52.760 --> 00:36:54.320
back as well, because if you
read every word, it would be a

489
00:36:54.320 --> 00:36:59.559
five hour play. So anyway,
this is only one hundred minutes including plus

490
00:36:59.559 --> 00:37:02.960
an interval of twenty minutes. So
anyway, the actor is the one who

491
00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:08.119
eventually plays the John Waters character of
Arthur Kipps. So basically they turn the

492
00:37:08.119 --> 00:37:14.280
tables. So if you're like,
the actor plays a young Kipps and the

493
00:37:14.440 --> 00:37:19.400
older kIPS in. John Waters fills
every other character role in this piece,

494
00:37:19.800 --> 00:37:22.840
and he also narrates the play.
So the young kIPS is a lawyer.

495
00:37:23.239 --> 00:37:30.480
He travels to a fictitious village on
the northeast coast of England known as christin

496
00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:32.800
Gifford. It's not you know,
it's as I say, made up.

497
00:37:34.159 --> 00:37:37.599
It's sort of marsh country, and
he travels there to sort out Missus Drablow's

498
00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:42.840
affairs. There are lots of private
papers to go through and the task is

499
00:37:42.880 --> 00:37:47.159
particularly onerous. But that's not the
half of it. Greek and it's while

500
00:37:47.199 --> 00:37:55.599
attending the funeral Missus Drablow's funeral that
the young Kips' first eyes on first sets

501
00:37:55.599 --> 00:38:00.159
eyes on a ghostly figure which we'll
call the woman in black. It's a

502
00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:06.480
woman in black obviously dressed head to
doe, so it's one that he'll continue

503
00:38:06.519 --> 00:38:10.079
to encounter and it'll haunt him as
he travels to the now dead widow's home,

504
00:38:12.079 --> 00:38:16.280
which is known as eel Marsh House. So assistance is in short supply,

505
00:38:16.440 --> 00:38:21.119
even though Young kIPS could really do
with it, and it becomes quite

506
00:38:21.199 --> 00:38:24.320
clear that locals don't want anything to
do with il Marsh House. So while

507
00:38:24.320 --> 00:38:29.679
carrying out his duty in isolation,
he's got a fictitious He's got a dog

508
00:38:29.719 --> 00:38:31.119
as a companion. And this is
one of the beauties of this play.

509
00:38:31.360 --> 00:38:36.280
You don't actually see the dog red, but all the overtures have made you

510
00:38:36.320 --> 00:38:38.719
know, come here came he little
do no come here? All of this

511
00:38:38.920 --> 00:38:43.119
done without seeing the dog. That's
the only spoiler I'm going to put into

512
00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:45.679
this, but it was really,
really clever. So Young kIPS his rather

513
00:38:45.719 --> 00:38:52.880
strange sounds and again he confronts the
spirit the apparition. So it's left him

514
00:38:52.920 --> 00:38:55.519
to try to figure out what's going
on and why the locals are so spooked,

515
00:38:55.800 --> 00:39:00.119
and it's going to lead him to
uncover a shopping deal of death and

516
00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:06.159
anguish that dates back nearly sixty years. So this has been adapted for the

517
00:39:06.199 --> 00:39:14.159
stage by Stephen Mallatrade from a nineteen
eighty three book by Susan Hill. Yeah,

518
00:39:14.519 --> 00:39:16.559
do you like sort of ghost tales? Because I reckon you should read

519
00:39:16.599 --> 00:39:21.599
it. If you do it,
it's well worth reading. I look a

520
00:39:21.639 --> 00:39:24.480
single word to sum up this ghost
story. It's atmospheric. So do you

521
00:39:24.559 --> 00:39:29.440
like ghost stories? Greg or not? I beg you see horror stories?

522
00:39:29.559 --> 00:39:32.760
Is yeah, I reckon you should
King stuff. Yeah, well, I

523
00:39:32.800 --> 00:39:36.880
reckon you should read this one.
Basically it's not Stephen King, but it's

524
00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:40.599
Yeah. It's a very popular book
anyway. The acting, of course,

525
00:39:40.639 --> 00:39:44.920
is of critical importance, as it
always is, but there are a few

526
00:39:44.960 --> 00:39:47.800
theatrical pieces I can think of where
sound and lighting would be more important,

527
00:39:47.880 --> 00:39:52.800
and both have done really well.
Shadows, of course, add to the

528
00:39:52.920 --> 00:39:55.440
foreboding mood here, And in terms
of sound, I'm not just talking about

529
00:39:55.480 --> 00:39:59.480
the things that go bump in the
night. There are certainly those, but

530
00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:04.920
also natural street noise and much more. And the blend works really well,

531
00:40:05.159 --> 00:40:10.519
aided by rather austere but redlin staging
and props. And in terms of the

532
00:40:10.599 --> 00:40:15.079
script, it's what i'd call a
slow bourn, the build up, the

533
00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:19.199
establishing just how mister keeps chilling.
Taiale will be told that takes time.

534
00:40:19.199 --> 00:40:22.280
There's sort of about ten or fifteen
minutes of mucking around at the start,

535
00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:25.079
where you know, again it's funny, but you sort of the piece really

536
00:40:25.119 --> 00:40:29.679
ignites once we get to the paranormal
and the scares. Well, you've got

537
00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:32.559
sudden loud sound, you've got the
appearance of the apparition, you've got screams,

538
00:40:32.599 --> 00:40:37.039
you've got squeals, and yeah,
it's done well, it's done very

539
00:40:37.039 --> 00:40:38.960
well. It really comes into its
own in act too, as the narrative

540
00:40:39.039 --> 00:40:45.199
is developed and the true horror in
the storytelling is revealed. The two stars

541
00:40:45.199 --> 00:40:46.880
of the piece, John Waters and
Daniel Wick, firston, they're really strong.

542
00:40:47.480 --> 00:40:51.079
They milk the material for all it's
worth, not missing a beat,

543
00:40:51.519 --> 00:40:57.440
and it's really quite amusing to watch
John Waters imagine they'd be I can't remember

544
00:40:57.519 --> 00:41:01.000
what was the film where where the
film is distinguished. In this case,

545
00:41:01.039 --> 00:41:07.320
the theatrical performance is distinguished by an
actor playing bad acting, you know what

546
00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:10.920
I'm saying, where he's actually In
this case, John Water's character as the

547
00:41:12.079 --> 00:41:19.920
elderly Arthur Kibbs struggles to sort of
basically deliver any of his lines with any

548
00:41:20.079 --> 00:41:22.079
umph, right, no, get
up and go. It's really and he

549
00:41:22.119 --> 00:41:27.199
did this and he did that.
It sounds sounds really wouldn't What do you

550
00:41:27.239 --> 00:41:30.719
remember off the top of the movie
where I just I'm just trying to think

551
00:41:30.800 --> 00:41:35.519
of where was it Meryl Streep?
I just can't remember the name of the

552
00:41:35.519 --> 00:41:42.119
film where she plays a bad actor
or whatever. Bad singer, bad singer,

553
00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:45.400
that's one, yeah, bad singer. Okay, do you recall a

554
00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:52.760
movie? I can't remember anyway,
tree banger name, but look I'm talking

555
00:41:52.760 --> 00:41:54.519
about this. But yeah, So
it was really funny to watch it.

556
00:41:54.559 --> 00:41:59.119
And then you contrast that with a
fine job he does inhabiting several characters as

557
00:41:59.159 --> 00:42:04.960
the product unfolds, and McPherson is
the enthusiast, the driving force here,

558
00:42:05.280 --> 00:42:08.239
quickly gets stuck into his role,
lets it run. So the haunting nature

559
00:42:08.280 --> 00:42:13.119
of the woman in Black is apparent
throughout. Gives it bite, there's no

560
00:42:13.239 --> 00:42:15.800
question about that. And it's on
at the athname. You've got a little

561
00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:19.360
bit of time to see it.
Sixth of July. It finishes, and

562
00:42:19.519 --> 00:42:22.199
it's doing a tour. It's already
been in a couple of cities. It's

563
00:42:22.239 --> 00:42:27.079
sort of been in Brisbane and it's
been into Woomba, been in Adelaide and

564
00:42:27.119 --> 00:42:31.039
Perth, so more than a couple
and it then moves through Canberra, Woolengong

565
00:42:31.559 --> 00:42:37.119
and Newcastle before finishing at the Theater
Royal in Sydney, starting at the end

566
00:42:37.119 --> 00:42:40.440
of July and moving through to August. But we can see it right the

567
00:42:40.440 --> 00:42:46.000
Aname Theater. That's some of your
theory of Florence Foster Jenkins. Very good,

568
00:42:46.079 --> 00:42:49.199
Thank you, Greg. That's terrific. No, it's good to know.

569
00:42:49.480 --> 00:42:52.000
So, yeah, the Woman in
Black is well worth catching if you

570
00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:55.280
are either things that go bump in
the night. Look, there are some

571
00:42:55.559 --> 00:43:01.239
jump out of your seat moments,
but not many. They're more it's fascinating

572
00:43:01.320 --> 00:43:06.000
staging. And yeah, there are
some people that my wife was sitting with

573
00:43:06.039 --> 00:43:08.960
her hands over her ears waiting,
you know, were you're waiting in a

574
00:43:09.000 --> 00:43:14.920
movie or a horror film or whatever
for something to happen. I mean that

575
00:43:15.079 --> 00:43:20.800
One of the scariest things that I've
ever done is there was a I can't

576
00:43:20.840 --> 00:43:23.599
remember what the name of it was
now either, but there were four shipping

577
00:43:23.639 --> 00:43:30.880
containers in Chinatown in Melbourne and you
could get into these shipping containers where it

578
00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:35.960
was it was all about sound and
light and so forth. But it was

579
00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:39.320
pitch It was absolutely pitch black.
And what is it? Why do you

580
00:43:39.360 --> 00:43:43.760
think, and you're somebody who reads
a lot of horror and watches a lot

581
00:43:43.760 --> 00:43:47.639
of horror movies, what is it
that? Why do people get excited about

582
00:43:47.679 --> 00:43:53.239
being scared? What is it?
What's the Why are we humans built this

583
00:43:53.320 --> 00:43:57.679
way? I don't know whether you've
got an answer, but what's your theory?

584
00:43:58.800 --> 00:44:04.920
Maybe yes, it's occasionally it's a
job out of a normal routurnal life.

585
00:44:04.960 --> 00:44:09.519
And becose it's under stage, you're
on the screen. Is not real

586
00:44:10.239 --> 00:44:14.519
seasons, it's not to experience it. Well, I suppose it's the thrill

587
00:44:14.800 --> 00:44:17.039
like you've also got the thrill seekers. Some people are the thrill seekers and

588
00:44:17.119 --> 00:44:22.360
others that you like to be scared
out of their wits. It's it's interesting.

589
00:44:22.800 --> 00:44:27.239
I mean, night terrors and nightmares
are very real for people, and

590
00:44:27.440 --> 00:44:30.280
you know you wake up from one
of those and you're really at times.

591
00:44:30.679 --> 00:44:35.559
I'm sure it's happened to all of
us. I wonder. I don't know

592
00:44:35.599 --> 00:44:38.599
the physiology of it, but how
how does the human mind work? Is

593
00:44:38.639 --> 00:44:44.719
it a processing mechanism? It's quite
fascinating to sort of think about this with

594
00:44:44.719 --> 00:44:46.239
a little bit more depth. Having
said all of that, yeah, if

595
00:44:46.280 --> 00:44:52.079
you're into that sort of genre,
why not why not attend? I also

596
00:44:52.119 --> 00:44:58.079
wanted to. I've seen some amazing
things, and you know, unfortunately it's

597
00:44:58.119 --> 00:45:02.400
now over, but the Rising Festival, which has been on from the first

598
00:45:02.719 --> 00:45:07.719
until the sixteenth of this month,
that's always on in June. She there's

599
00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:09.920
been some good stuff. Greg.
I don't think you've partaken in any of

600
00:45:09.960 --> 00:45:15.960
it, but it's always difficult to
know what to attend. And now I

601
00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:19.280
want to talk to you about this
because there are a couple of really interesting

602
00:45:19.440 --> 00:45:22.280
things and you maybe want to be
This goes on for a little bit longer.

603
00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:25.679
This goes on to the twenty third
but was part of Rising. Daniel

604
00:45:25.800 --> 00:45:32.039
Kitson collaborator. Okay, so now
I suppose if you ever wanted to be

605
00:45:32.280 --> 00:45:36.280
you're an English teacher, but if
you ever wanted to be a voiceover talent

606
00:45:36.440 --> 00:45:40.280
or an actor, that ever crossed
your mind. Yeah, well, look

607
00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:43.840
a lot of people, you know, you look at the money that can

608
00:45:43.880 --> 00:45:45.519
be made, and people say,
yeah, it'd be really good. Well

609
00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:51.679
here's your chance. Although the person
involved, Daniel Kitson had hate me for

610
00:45:51.719 --> 00:45:54.360
saying so, because he makes his
view of actors clear in this show,

611
00:45:55.079 --> 00:45:59.239
or I suppose you must. You
can even question whether that really is his

612
00:45:59.320 --> 00:46:01.239
view or viewer that he puts out
there. But anyway, he's a British

613
00:46:01.239 --> 00:46:06.840
Comedian's written a really off the walls
grip greg in which he argues with and

614
00:46:06.920 --> 00:46:12.800
provokes the audience, all of whom
play a part in the Shenanigans and there's

615
00:46:12.840 --> 00:46:16.559
a lot of laughter. So anyway, you know the South Bank Theater right

616
00:46:16.599 --> 00:46:20.880
alongside the Art Center. Okay,
so you go in there. It's the

617
00:46:20.920 --> 00:46:27.800
smaller theater of the Lauler and there
it's quite an interesting thing because it's theater

618
00:46:27.880 --> 00:46:30.360
in the round. It's actually in
the square, but there's if you're like

619
00:46:30.440 --> 00:46:32.440
bleacher seating, it's not very deep, but you know, four or five

620
00:46:32.559 --> 00:46:38.320
deep in each four in four areas
right to make up the square. And

621
00:46:38.559 --> 00:46:43.679
when you get in there and you
sit down in the middle of the room,

622
00:46:43.840 --> 00:46:45.800
there's a sort of like the stage
area, which is just the floor.

623
00:46:46.400 --> 00:46:52.400
There are hundreds and hundreds of pieces
of paper lined up on four sides

624
00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:55.239
and you're thinking, what the heck's
going on here? Well, basically they

625
00:46:55.239 --> 00:47:01.760
are scripts greg all right, So
Daniel Kitson basically prepared one hundred and sixty

626
00:47:01.880 --> 00:47:09.920
nine speaking parts in forty six pages
of text. Now, as a patron,

627
00:47:10.199 --> 00:47:15.400
you either can choose a speaking role
or a non speaking role. And

628
00:47:15.679 --> 00:47:17.440
the night we attended there were furely
the smaller theater, there were one hundred

629
00:47:17.440 --> 00:47:22.679
and eighty one people there. So
most people take speaking parts, and every

630
00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:27.440
and he hands out copies of the
script which you lead behind as you exit,

631
00:47:28.280 --> 00:47:34.320
and basically you might it's quite random, so they're numbers of one to

632
00:47:34.360 --> 00:47:37.880
one hundred and sixty nine and you
just pass them along the aisle and you

633
00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:42.679
might get a single word, you
might get a sentence, you might get

634
00:47:42.880 --> 00:47:47.519
series of sentences or proclamations or exclamations, or you could choose it on speaking

635
00:47:47.519 --> 00:47:52.000
part. And even if you choose
an no speaking part, you're still invited

636
00:47:52.039 --> 00:47:57.920
to engage in about or two of
booing at various junctures. So the script's

637
00:47:57.960 --> 00:48:01.960
sort of a four size and you've
got a tab which indicates the start of

638
00:48:02.280 --> 00:48:07.960
the role that you're asked to play, and then what you're asked to say

639
00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:10.079
is highlighted in yellow, and then
you've got a red dot that marks the

640
00:48:10.119 --> 00:48:14.320
end of your part. So it's
quite easy. It's quite straightforward. Now,

641
00:48:14.519 --> 00:48:17.599
the beauty of the writing is that
it speaks to the lead up to

642
00:48:19.639 --> 00:48:22.000
well, who knows what, We
never actually get there, agreed, because

643
00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:28.199
basically it sets out the rules of
engagement and invites the people the challenges.

644
00:48:28.480 --> 00:48:31.400
It invites people to challenge what's been
said, and they're plenty of challenges.

645
00:48:31.639 --> 00:48:35.360
So whatever the show proper could have
been remains a bit of a mystery,

646
00:48:35.760 --> 00:48:37.360
a lot of a mystery, and
of course that's the whole point. The

647
00:48:37.400 --> 00:48:43.840
interjections, the retorts are the show, and you're interacting with Daniel Kitson throughout

648
00:48:43.840 --> 00:48:50.559
the entirety of the extended reading,
and naturally his lines are the most pointed

649
00:48:50.599 --> 00:48:55.199
and the largest so and I've got
to say one lucky audience member known as

650
00:48:55.320 --> 00:49:01.000
Keith also has a large part to
play and verbally joust with Daniel right throughout

651
00:49:01.039 --> 00:49:08.280
this performance. So Daniel is forever
defending his territory, sometimes quite forcefully and

652
00:49:08.679 --> 00:49:15.280
always being very physically expressive. So
it's a very funny and extremely clever script.

653
00:49:15.559 --> 00:49:21.079
And it was written at Daniel Gidson
collaborator to be performed in the round

654
00:49:21.159 --> 00:49:24.400
as it is, and it's tweaked
from one venue to another because obviously if

655
00:49:24.400 --> 00:49:28.719
he's playing in England, there'll be
some different references to what there may be

656
00:49:28.840 --> 00:49:34.519
here in Australia. And it also
contains directions for us the great unwash the

657
00:49:34.519 --> 00:49:39.199
participants, so you might get a
square bracket saying sarcastic, so right,

658
00:49:39.559 --> 00:49:45.920
you're delivering it in a particular style
or raises hand, so everything's laid out

659
00:49:45.920 --> 00:49:49.760
on a platter. But then there's
some ad libbing as well, which generates

660
00:49:49.840 --> 00:49:54.280
even more amusement. And part of
the joy is in the contrarian position that

661
00:49:54.360 --> 00:50:00.320
Daniel's built into the pros, which
makes it clear, now get this not

662
00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:04.480
a fan of audience participation. This
is all about audience participation. He's not

663
00:50:04.559 --> 00:50:07.760
a fan of plays, well this
is a play, and he's not a

664
00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:09.119
fan of stand up comedy. Well
this is stand up comedy. So that's

665
00:50:09.159 --> 00:50:12.920
the whole point. Obviously he is
taking the P one double s out of

666
00:50:12.960 --> 00:50:15.000
things. A great deal of fun
to be had over an hour and ten

667
00:50:15.039 --> 00:50:20.559
minutes. He's effectively using us Daniel
Kitson to have an argument with himself.

668
00:50:21.079 --> 00:50:24.679
So the audience quickly get into the
rhythm of the work. There's lots of

669
00:50:24.679 --> 00:50:30.159
smiles on faces throughout that speaks volumes
and kits and himself, well, he's

670
00:50:30.199 --> 00:50:32.440
quite the thespian. He's an agitator
as well, and don't we just love

671
00:50:32.519 --> 00:50:36.199
him for it. It's quite an
I've never seen anything like it. But

672
00:50:36.239 --> 00:50:38.079
you basically pay it. I think
it's twenty five bucks greet so it's not

673
00:50:38.119 --> 00:50:45.719
too not too expensive plus five ninety
booking fee. It's it's you imagine going

674
00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:49.960
into a play that you're paying to
be part of. That's what you do

675
00:50:50.119 --> 00:50:52.559
at Daniel Kitson Collaborator, even though
he doesn't want to call it a play.

676
00:50:53.119 --> 00:50:57.400
Does that Does that sound exciting?
I reckon, it was very exciting.

677
00:50:59.280 --> 00:51:01.519
Iss you own? Oh great gree
Oh don't be a stick in them,

678
00:51:01.719 --> 00:51:06.119
my friend? Yeah, So that
was that was really special. I

679
00:51:06.159 --> 00:51:10.199
thought, wow, that's really a
bit different and you know, nothing,

680
00:51:10.239 --> 00:51:15.639
nothing wrong with that, right,
So that was that one. Now we

681
00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:19.840
don't have time. Maybe next week
we can go to a few of the

682
00:51:19.840 --> 00:51:22.360
other movies that open this week,
and I think that'll also give you an

683
00:51:22.400 --> 00:51:30.519
opportunity to to see them as well. Greek so amongst those that that I

684
00:51:30.559 --> 00:51:36.079
wouldn't mind talking about is the new
Russell Crowe movie, The Exorcism. Well,

685
00:51:36.320 --> 00:51:39.719
was it last year that Russell Crowe
played a priest in a movie that's

686
00:51:39.920 --> 00:51:45.159
just the Pope? That's right,
So he's done too Exorcism. I'm not

687
00:51:45.159 --> 00:51:50.000
sure whether he did them back to
back or whether they're released in quick succession,

688
00:51:50.400 --> 00:51:53.119
so I don't know why, but
you know, these are the scripts

689
00:51:53.119 --> 00:51:57.639
that he's offered. And the other
one that the other thing that I should

690
00:51:57.719 --> 00:52:01.960
mention is the Spanish Film Festival is
now on and that is well worth catching

691
00:52:02.039 --> 00:52:07.840
up with. I caught up with
a centerpiece to that which is really worth

692
00:52:08.239 --> 00:52:15.480
worth sort of seeing the Teacher who
Promised the Sea, and it basically turns

693
00:52:15.519 --> 00:52:21.440
back the clock to the horrors of
the murderous Franco regime with a highly personal

694
00:52:21.960 --> 00:52:27.400
search back in twenty ten, and
it's based on fact. Now it's quite

695
00:52:27.639 --> 00:52:31.280
it's a very interesting, quite a
disturbing story, but one that I would

696
00:52:31.360 --> 00:52:35.960
encourage people to go along the seat. That's the teacher who Promised the Sea.

697
00:52:36.360 --> 00:52:39.000
Now, the other thing I wanted
to mention that one of our colleagues,

698
00:52:39.599 --> 00:52:45.599
Peter, who is regularly Peter Krause's
regularly on this show is sort of

699
00:52:45.639 --> 00:52:47.719
going through a little bit, and
we hope to have him back very very

700
00:52:47.760 --> 00:52:54.400
soon. And we're just sending out
our best wishes to Peter and yeah,

701
00:52:55.920 --> 00:53:00.320
let's hope that all all will be
righted in very short and we know how

702
00:53:00.400 --> 00:53:05.119
much he loves films and how much
he contributes to this program. So I

703
00:53:05.199 --> 00:53:07.880
just wanted to say that, Greg, I wish you a very good week.

704
00:53:07.960 --> 00:53:12.920
I hope that the kids don't give
you too much grief. When's the

705
00:53:12.920 --> 00:53:16.800
next school holidays? That's my question
to you two weeks away. Are you

706
00:53:16.840 --> 00:53:22.880
counting down the days? Yep?
Okay, well, listen, you enjoy

707
00:53:22.880 --> 00:53:24.559
the week, be kind to one
another. Hopefully the kids don't give you,

708
00:53:24.599 --> 00:53:28.159
as I say, too much grief, and we'll catch you next week

709
00:53:28.400 --> 00:53:30.480
on First On Film and Entertainment.