S03E06: Dunes of Discourse: Villeneuve's Visionary Voyage Continues

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First on Film Entertainment, very very
big week, a huge movie, just

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trying to think, well, we'd
have to go back to Oppenheimer and films

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like that that we have seen good
fortune to have seen at Imax. We're

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talking about Dune Part two and Dennis
Villeneuve. What a masterful filmmaker that man

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is. With me, Jackie Hamilton, Peter Krauss, great king and Peter,

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let's start with you. I remember
seeing On Sonde and was blown away.

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That was my film of the year
when that came out. Well that

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was about twenty ten from recollection.
And he keeps on doing it, doesn't

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he He's an excellent director. He's
Canadian. We should make that very clear.

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And yeah, denis really fashioned some
great screenplays. What's been your favorite

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work of is if you can sort
of off the top? What is?

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Because I still think On Sonde was
so surprising for me that I couldn't get

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it out of my head. And
that's the sign of a good movie.

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It is. I agree with you
on Sunda, that family drama which became

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something quite twisting, was such a
clever film. But the fact is that

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he can go from there to something
like Dune and both become plausible again,

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the sign of somebody who's on top
of his game. Greek king, are

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you a big fan? Two?
Well, I really like Prisoners, that

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film with Jack Jackman. I thought
that was his best film. Okay,

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And Jackie, have you seen much
of Dennis Hill Nerve's work. I'm just

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trying to recollect what I have seen, But I think Dune Part one and

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Dune Part two have kind of overtaken
everything else he's done just for the moment.

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Well, I mean the immediacy,
of course, that's that's the issue

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here, and you sort of recollect
and you think, oh my golly,

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that was ten years ago, that
was fourteen years ago, whatever it might

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be. But okay, let's start
with if you greeg you read a lot?

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Did you read the Frank Herbert novel
nine fifty? Not one of my

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prefer genres. So I don't really
read much science fiction, and I haven't

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read You or any of spin off
novels. Okay. So when you approach

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a movie, well, initially with
Dune in twenty twenty one and now Dune

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Part two, do you come with
any full knowledge? In other words,

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it can be quite a convoluted,
sort of plotline unless you've got some Well,

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I came with pretty knowledge, clar
I've seen the Jaavid Leech film from

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nineteen eighty four, so I saw
not was down to happen. What about

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you in terms of that, Jackie, are you somebody who'd seen Dune initially

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the earlier version or not? No? Again, like Greg, I mean

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even more than Greg, science fiction
like horror. For me, just I

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just don't go looking for these films. I did remember a rival. Yes,

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it is the director's previous work from
twenty sixteen, which I absolutely loved,

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and I've probably seen that three or
four times since then and really really

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enjoyed that film. And that is
science fiction, but that had a very

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human link in it, not so
much June one and two. Okay,

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now, Peter, you I mean
a history of a story to history of

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cinema in your mind. So going
into a movie like Dune and go back

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to twenty twenty one, what were
your expectations and did they exceed your expectations

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once you exited Imax? Well,
certainly they did exceed my expectations. But

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like Greg, i'd seen the David
Lynch version of June, and for me

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always a film has to stand alone. I don't care if it's adapted from

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a book or whatever. And his
first dune, Denise first June, was

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very good and was hoping that this
second one or the part two would be

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just as good. And it certainly, as say you asked me, exceeded

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my expectations. Yeah, I would
totally agree with that assessment. I came

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out of this thinking I want to
see part three tomorrow. No, and

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that's a really good sign, though, Greg, did you? And again

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we'll go into the depth of this
in the next few minutes. But did

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you come out of this thinking this
is better than part one? Not entirely,

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No, I thought it took a
while to get started. Actually,

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with so much politips, mister Sizzi
religion at the start, it was a

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bit slow to get off the ground
for me. Oh that's interesting. And

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Jackie, what about you. I
saw the two of them fairly equal in

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lack of interest from me in dullness
and I over looted, And yeah,

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they were about equal for my part. Yea. All right, Well,

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look, let's go into a little
bit of detail. Because the actual novel

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upon which this is base, the
Frank Kurbert novel, came out in nineteen

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sixty five and in this Dune Part
two. In this particular installment of the

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movie, the exiled Duke of house
A Treaties, whose name is Paula Treaties,

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played by Timothy Shallamy, establishes himself
as a leader of men, and

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I'm talking men and women with the
generic men. The freemen who live on

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the desert planet Arakas may be skeptical
of paul treatise rather at first, but

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Paul puts paid to their misgivings with
series of acts of bravery because he's put

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through a number of trials, and
in his corner is a tribal head of

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the Freeman, a guy called Stilgar
played by haave A Bardam. He believes

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in a particular prophecy of a mother
and son bringing prosperity to Oracus, and

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to that end he helps elevate a
Treaty's mother Jessica, that's the role filled

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by Rebecca Ferguson to reverend Mother,
and in so doing she inherits the memories

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of her female ancestors. Then you've
got a young and feisty Freeman warrior called

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Charni played by Zendiah, who develops
respect for a treaties and becomes his lover.

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But dark forces continue to gather and
the war against House Harconin escalates.

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So the evil architect is the ruthless
Baron Vladimir Harkonan's nephew Rabin, played by

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de Batista. His grip, though
on valuable spice production is loosening and then

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stepping up is Baron's other nephew,
fade Ralpha, played by Austin Butler.

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You cannot, I defy anyone to
recognize Austin Butler with all the makeup mind

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you. I found this quite remarkable
as a movie. I thought it not

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only developed the narrative, but it
excels in the special effects department, and

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the filmmakers have pulled out all stops
and how the desert scenes coupled with a

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costuming, the incredible sound that you
get at Imax nothing short of spectacular.

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And I found the impact was immediate
and ultra consistent. So the director,

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the co writer, Dennis Villeneuve's mastery
of his craft. I found magnificent to

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watch the big names in the cast, they're all up for the action and

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the subterfuge in the plotting. I
really believe that Chalame is an actor of

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a generation. He makes for a
compelling lead. Zendiah stands toe to toe

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with him as Channai, and I'm
a really big rap for Rebecca Ferguson as

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the Oracle Jessica have Bartam Well,
he's got a key role as Stillgar and

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there's no questioning Josh Brolin's loyalty as
Gernie Hallick. I mentioned Austin Butler incredibly

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menacing as Fade Ralpher but unrecognizable,
and Florence Pugh quite dignified as Princess Roland.

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Also, I want to mention Charlotte
Rampling brings appropriate arrogance and entitlement to

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Rev Mother Mahaiam And I do recall
saying this after the first installment, but

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I think it's worth repeating now.
If you're lucky enough to have the chance

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to see Dune Part two in Imax
or at IMAX, please do. It's

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genuinely an immersive experience, best way
to see the film without any question regardless,

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though, please view it on the
biggest screen possible with the greatest sound

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quality. And as I said,
I reckon part two is even better than

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the original. I wish I could
see the next one as soon as I

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possibly can, but obviously we're going
to have to wait a few years before

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that comes on board. So it's
a fabulous movie. I would urge you

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to see it. And whether or
not you like science fiction, this is

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masterful filmmaking, is it not.
Peter definitely agree with you. It is

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masterful filmmaking. It's so interesting to
see it that IMAX because I was watching

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carefully as the screen expanded and contracted
many many times during the screening from the

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full IMAX to the standard seventy millimeter
IMAX, and that means that you get

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these massive vistas and massive scenes from
time to time, and sometimes they're very

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short and at other times you get
the more personal sort of dramas that come

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in. Look, this is a
film, basically, if you boil it

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down, about warring factions, about
control, about power, and it's also

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about women and their impact on the
situation that the men seem to face,

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in particular as the film develops.
So what villain Nerve has done is created

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an excellent family drama which in some
respects is not necessarily too different from Onsandies,

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which I found so interesting. And
what he's done with this continuation of

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Dune is to really pack in lots
more special effects the sandworm, which are

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incredible and spectacle into what boils down
to something that is about family control and

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as we see near the end of
the film, about power and how that

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power can corrupt or not corrupt,
as the case might be. So certainly

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I'm looking forward to the next installment, if they can afford to make one.

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But I was very impressed by June
Part two. I heard from somebody

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Peter that the third part has already
been made, but I'm not sure that's

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true or not all, whether it
was just here say so, because I

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mean, one of the things that
I'm always conscious of when a new movie

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comes out is has time gone by? Because an actor becomes older, right,

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And if you're meant to pick up
the threads immediately after the first installment,

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which June two does, if they
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even with the best of makeup,
that may end up showing on the

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big screen. So I'm not sure
that that's just here. So have any

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of the others amongst you heard that
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No, I haven't heard that.
But if it's set in the year ten

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thousand or so. Does it matter, what's a thousand years between drinks?

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Yes, Sarah? Okay, So
Greg King your views of Dunant Part two,

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Well, I agree with some of
what you said. The special effects

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are fantastic there. The epic scope
williant a sound design is also quite overwhelming

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there. And there's a sequence in
the middle of the film when he shoots

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in black and white, a sort
of gladiatorial contests in the middle of this

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arena there with all the crowd up
and there. It sort of was reminiscent

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of some of the Nuremberg stuff from
the Nazis, you know, seventy years

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ago or something. But it's a
very action packed film, especially in the

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second half of film. I agreed
it' simiously. Chella may is a very

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strong lead. He's got those piercing
real eyes that come across on the screen

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as well. Austin Butler, Yeah, he was great and menacing in his

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role there as a bit of a
villain. There. A great cast in

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the film. But I just had
a bit of trouble with the start of

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the film when it was a little
bit slow in developing this landscape, this

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world there with all the mysticism religion, politics playing out there. They didn't

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quite grab me as I expected Part
two to do, so it took a

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while to warm up to the fact, you know, where the story actually

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kicked in there. Great special effects, especially with the sand worms, and

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some of the action scenes were quite
spectacular in the sound design quite overwhelming as

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well. Yeah, so look,
it's a good film for me, quite

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a part would Part one didn't quite
top it for me. But it's two

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hours forty six minutes, greeg.
So do you think it felt stretched?

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I think it was a little bit
long. Years Okay, Jackie, you

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obviously are not a fan. So
where do you sort of see Dune in

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the pantheon of movies that you've seen? Oh? Well, look, I'm

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going to agree with actually most of
what Greg said just then regarding the cast

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and the special effects, the cinematography
that the most of the CGI, I

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mean just mind blowing really and agree
with you also that if you're seeing it

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on the Imax screen, I mean
that's going to just double the hit that

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you get from it. The cast
is great, big names, and also

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they do really well. And yes
they're faces, especially as you say,

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Chalmy and Zendea and Austin Butler.
I didn't even know it was him until

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I was looking forward to seeing him
in this film. I didn't I didn't

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know it was him for the whole
film. However, what lost it for

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me was the storyline. I was
just not drawn into the lives of these

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people, as I say, I
don't. I don't like sci fi anyway,

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and to be to for me to
like a sci fi film, I'd

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still have to have a connection with
the scener something relatable about it, and

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I just didn't relate to these people
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The war scenes, like you know, after you've seen it for a

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few minutes. There was just too
much of that for my mind, and

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in two hours forty six I suppose
I have to fill it with something.

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The sound was huge, I mean
we were shaking making yes, I mean

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it was almost like what's that version
where you have had moving seats in you

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know as earth Mate. Yeah,
but you know on once you've had one

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war scene, you know, blowing
up and explosions and shaking chairs and the

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big sound and all that. I
mean, once you've done it once,

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you don't need to I mean just
it was there was too much of that.

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For me, it needed Do you
like the riding of the sandworms or

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did you not like that? Look, we knew about the sandworms already.

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My I mean, I've got this
logic thing going on where if you're riding

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a sandworm because you want to get
from A to B, how do you

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tell the sand I mean you can't
steer it with one of those little pieces

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of rope. How do you tell
it the direction you're going? Hello?

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Yeah, but well you're just going
where the sandworm wants to go. And

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I mean you're about the size of
a pimple on a pumpkin. So it

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didn't work for me at all.
I liked the challenge where Timothy chela May

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had to had to learn, had
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But after that, I'm thinking,
well, you know, if you're going

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to hop on a tram, you
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sandworm. I suppose that what I
was thinking is, well, put it

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I missed something. Well, you're
pointed in the right direction, aren't you.

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You're not going backwards right, So
it's going like writing a bocking bucking.

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You're writing it, but you're not
controlling it. You're not controlling what

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direction it's going, Peter. Do
you know do you have some knowledge here?

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I'm not up on my reading with
Sandworms, but I must do so.

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Shameful, Peter. That is absolutely
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come to a program like this totally
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read it on my Sandworms literature either
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class, right, and you're you're
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no, the other way around.
I suppose. I suppose it's unfair to

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bring, you know, a logical
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you have to believe? You have
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isn't my favorite far from my favorite
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think I need to be able to
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you need to see lots more documentaries, right, all right, So look,

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let's that's a good doco. Let's
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because you'll be labeling this. So
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is for Due Part two, which
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hundred and sixty six minutes. Okay, I'll give it a six out of

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ten. Great King seven and seven
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I just want to mention also in
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Guard, it is a terrific cast
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as to the film, I give
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you go, So we are at
one, Peter, Oh my golly,

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there's something deeply distressing about that.
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the sand worms. It might be. Yes. So what I would say

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is, if you are not familiar
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got to familiarize yourself with part one
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cinemas around town this week ended up
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a really good idea. It's kind
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hot weather this weekends. During the
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yeah. But having said that,
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a very good idea. Okay,
we are right. Now, there's a

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good idea for a film, Harry
Potter and the sand Words. Yes that,

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let's move on JA Radio FM to
a phenomenal title for a movie.

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like what was that? Was it
a movie about volvos? There? They're

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boxy, but there good. This
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person. Right, So it's saying
as it is now, Okay, when

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you see something like that, do
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Or does it make you rush in
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reckon? Jackie? Just a title
as soon as it's got the word vampire

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in it, I'm not interested.
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just like sci fi. However,
I like quirky titles. You do.

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I think this title gives away too
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well, seeing you don't like vampires
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I'm going to Sydney shortly and I'm
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and I'll bring I'll bring it.
Pardon me? When is that on?

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It's on this month? Yeah,
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okay, so I'm game. I
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is that Pride and Prejudicon Zombies.
Was that Pride and Prejudice and Zombies?

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that's the only one I've really liked. What about one with Nicholas Holt?

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he's a zombie? Oh was he? Oh? I loved it. Let

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me enjoying it with zombies basically,
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my favorite zombie film. Then.
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the whole genre. And we'll talk
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suicidal person. Greg. I'm going
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West Side Story on Sydney Harbor.
That is annually. As you know,

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there is a particular show on Sydney
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and d A and this year it's
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good fortune to see many times,
but never on Sinney Art. Do you

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need to know this now. Okay, twenty it starts in late March.

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Why is the days important if you
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in Melbourne? Okay, well,
okay, well all right, so that

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well then let me let me put
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asking me to hang on. I'm
hanging on, so thank you. This

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is like a personal phone calling.
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you. Yes, you're allowed to
reach drop Peter jump in anytime. The

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situations that the official opening of the
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the month, twenty second of March. I'm seeing there are some shows that

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are not going to come to Melbourne, to the best of my knowledge,

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and I'm seeing all of them so
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in doing this, please go ahead
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all going to be fantastic. National
Theater Live is brilliant. Whenever you see

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it National Theater in the UK,
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London many years ago. Now,
I thought it was great. They have

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got a new show which is at
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It is called Theatre Royal. If
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doing this off the top, so
pardon me if I screw anything up,

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but I don't believe I am.
They have got a new show called the

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Liaman Trilogy Lihman Trilogy, which is
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That was on National Theater live on
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performance, so I've seen well and
was it as outstandings don't tell me anything

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about it or was it as outstanding
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is very impressive. Yes, okay, so that's that's come to Sydney Greek,

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so you should try and see that. It's a long show. I

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think it's about three hours twenty minutes, including more than I think that there

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might be more than one interval,
but anyway, so that's that's the second

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thing I'm seeing. The third thing
I'm seeing is this musical. It's the

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only music that we haven't seen that's
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just starting or starting in the next
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And then you know how David Williamson
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for many, many decades, whenever
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especially MTC or whatever, people rush
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is a I'm not sure how old
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man anymore. He's come out of
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retire or whatever, to write a
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role. No less, and I'm
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days I'm going up there for four
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Essendon Plays Sydney at the SCG or
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that's that's my four days with my
wife in Sydney. So I reckon you

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should join me, Greg, not
not join us, but you should go

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up there. Yeah. Absolutely,
are you saying hello? There's silence?

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No? I said, yes,
fair enough, but I can't go the

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last still volo time right, and
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is, but thet one they started
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arche. Okay, so if you
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you off records, shall we say, well, off this particular pod people

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lay yes, exactly, thank you? All right. So and Alex David

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Williamson, he's eighty two years old. There you go. I mean,

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to get one seat. I got
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difficult. So yeah, and I
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that I have guys, and I
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is so much good stuff happening in
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transpose. They don't we don't get
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you either sort of pay for an
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for accommodation, which is not cheap. I might say, we're staying in

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the heart of Sydney. So you
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you miss out. And I often
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to go along and see these things
and I usually usually connect when when i'm

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you have a good fortune of being
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their productions, and that's kind of
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the year. And usually Hannah Opera
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to bear in mind. So let's
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person, which is rated M and
goes for ninety one minutes. Now,

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this is a vampire movie that is
sensitive and darkly comedic, and we've already

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referenced sort of movies of this ilk
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I mean, that's very much what
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Sasha played by Sarah Montpetit different from
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would say from bloodsuckers in general as
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at horror. Her fangs haven't come
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bag eats, so she sucks on
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mother played by Sophie Cadou and her
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there kills that these two have made. Her dad is more understanding about Sasha's

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failure to step up, that is
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wits end. Eventually, they farm
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by Nomi O'Farrell, who maintains that
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into giving Sasha any free blood like
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doubt that she will teach her how
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then chances upon a nice guy called
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senior at high school and he works
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for as long as he's known it. Paul has been suicidal. He wants

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to die. Sasha watches him try
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even though he knows she's a vampire
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there is a lot to like about
the unusual treatment Giar, even to a

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subject that's been around for as long
as cinema, And you know, I

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think back as far as Nosferatu being
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An adaptation of bram Stoker's Dracula.
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Christine Douyon and directed by Arianne Louis
Sees and it's this is not like bram

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Stoker's Dracula or Nosferatu. It was
born out of Louis Caesar's well desire,

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shall we say it to tame her
anxieties about death, and she's imposed a

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very human and respectful element to the
movie, which also serves as a coming

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of age story. Yes, Sasha
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she fit into her own skin without
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confidence that Sarah Montpetite injected into her
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wrestling with the guilt of knowing what
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least as a vampire, but not
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Romeo and Juliet element to this script. As she meets and is attracted to

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Paul, who clearly has a death
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restraint about Felix Antoine Bernard which suits
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this decent guy who simply doesn't fit
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O'Farrell makes it clear in her performance
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And you've got Sasha's aunt, Marie
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pragmatist in this movie, and also
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who continually argue about how best to
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Sasha's having what appears to be an
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it turns out to be anything but
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some magic. And talking of magic, there's something special about this movie,

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which I found had a tonal resonance
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myself genuinely caring about Sasha and Paul, so I went on the journey with

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them, wondered how they'd find a
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some scenes, but humanistic vampire seeking, conceding suicidal person struck a chord with

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me. And I reckon it's got
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enjoyed it. What about you,
Jackie, I agree with you, Alex.

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I went along with it. I
liked these characters. We felt,

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we really felt for them, we
were with them, and I think some

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of that was probably because it didn't
go on the gory side of vampires too

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heavily. We didn't. We saw
blood, not a lot of it,

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and like some vampire films I've seen
where you know, it's gorefest, so

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we actually, you know, have
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of that. I liked the characters. I found the film surprising and delighting,

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and I couldn't even guess where it
was going from halfway through. I

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didn't know how it was going to
end. It's more teen romance, coming

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of age story than it is,
you know. The vampire thing is just

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a just a vehicle for that.
I think the two main characters are just

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totally cute at buttons, and as
you said, the secondary characters, the

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parents, it's just real life and
they're very amusing. And I liked a

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lot of the humor in it.
You know, her cousin Denise, you

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know, she's got some blood around
her face. They help in the car

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and you get the wet wipes out
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sort of you know, trendy warehouse
sort of set up. You know,

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00:32:01.079 --> 00:32:07.799
there are some rather gory hooks in
the corner over the chopping bench, but

403
00:32:08.200 --> 00:32:13.680
apart from that, it's a really
moody, blue gray kind of you know,

404
00:32:13.960 --> 00:32:17.079
trendy setup to live, and I
think it just all adds to the

405
00:32:17.119 --> 00:32:22.680
mood of the whole film. It's
advising was some of the moral issues going

406
00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:30.160
on here, like really Paul's tendency
to depression, although he said that he'd

407
00:32:30.200 --> 00:32:34.599
been depressed since he was born because
he was born with an umbilical cord around

408
00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:38.519
his neck, which is a rather
horrible sort of vision that you know,

409
00:32:38.839 --> 00:32:44.559
the cause of his depression. All
that we saw was the bullying, and

410
00:32:44.839 --> 00:32:51.599
you know, there's no attempt to
get around the bullying issue, and I

411
00:32:51.599 --> 00:32:55.480
don't think it's a good enough reason
to a suicide. They do address,

412
00:32:55.519 --> 00:32:59.359
and they do address the bullying.
The guy who's doing most of the bullying

413
00:32:59.400 --> 00:33:06.039
within the movie yes, but not
probably in the not probably in the way

414
00:33:06.079 --> 00:33:09.799
that we would here today. Yes, yes, but I mean it's it,

415
00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:14.960
isn't it. What I'd loved about
humanistic vampire seeking, consenting, suicidal

416
00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:19.000
person is it's really you don't know
what if you know nothing about it,

417
00:33:19.079 --> 00:33:21.000
You go in there and you think, oh my god, this is a

418
00:33:21.160 --> 00:33:24.519
this is a nice little film,
really unexpected. It's an unexpected pleasure,

419
00:33:24.559 --> 00:33:29.000
isn't it, Jackie? It's very
sweet? It is really very sweet.

420
00:33:29.960 --> 00:33:34.839
So we've now got a third movie
in this genre that you're becoming an officionade,

421
00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:38.359
Jacqueline, Well free out of how
many films? Look, Peter would

422
00:33:38.400 --> 00:33:44.799
know how many vampire and zombie films
there have been? Why would Peter loving

423
00:33:44.880 --> 00:33:46.880
at Sandworm? So why would he
talk about this? All right, let's

424
00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:52.559
go to Greg. Then gregs not
forget so many movies. You go back

425
00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:54.960
to George A. Romero's Not in
a Living General, all those kind of

426
00:33:55.000 --> 00:33:59.799
films, So well, I don't, I don't Greek. Then to CVC.

427
00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:06.319
You're walking yet of course there you
go, not for you? But

428
00:34:06.839 --> 00:34:10.239
this is better than Twilight, isn't
it, Jackie? Oh? Following enough,

429
00:34:13.199 --> 00:34:16.960
you're like Twilight? Okay, all
sort of, but this is much

430
00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:22.920
much sweeter. How many Twilight movies
were there, so Jackie, you're up

431
00:34:22.920 --> 00:34:28.280
to like four or five or six
movies of the There was a lot about

432
00:34:28.360 --> 00:34:31.519
Twilight that I didn't like, and
I certainly didn't didn't, you know,

433
00:34:31.599 --> 00:34:35.320
relate to the characters in the way
that this is. I mean, you

434
00:34:35.360 --> 00:34:38.440
know, the dead pan faces dead
pan ha. Yes, very good.

435
00:34:38.519 --> 00:34:42.679
Okay, so that's great. I'm
really pleased you enjoyed it. And what

436
00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:46.280
about you, Greg? Did you
sort of get the bite? Should I

437
00:34:46.280 --> 00:34:51.760
bite my tongue or yours? Whatever? As you said, it's a great

438
00:34:51.800 --> 00:34:55.880
title there when I like the romance
that developed between Sasha, the sensitive vampire

439
00:34:57.360 --> 00:35:02.920
and Paul, the introverted teenager with
suicidal thoughts after being bullied. Now lively

440
00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:07.599
relationship that develops between him is the
focus of the film. There. This

441
00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:10.280
is a fresh take on the concept
of the vampires living amongst us. But

442
00:35:10.360 --> 00:35:15.639
I also thought I had a few
semantic connections to film the right one End

443
00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:20.119
and Once Bitten, but the dark, moody lighting, the way it's been

444
00:35:20.119 --> 00:35:24.239
shot by sin Resolve with a Shawn
pavolism that is quite intriguing. But it's

445
00:35:24.239 --> 00:35:30.800
a black comedy mixed flakes coming of
age story there about this relucted vampire and

446
00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:34.480
an introverted scene there, and it
doesn't quite play out the way you think

447
00:35:34.480 --> 00:35:37.480
it's going to be, but it's
got a nice sweet inding. Yeah,

448
00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:40.519
that's that surprise element. Is a
beautiful thing, is it not better?

449
00:35:42.840 --> 00:35:45.800
It is to some extent, yes, I agree. I had a few

450
00:35:45.880 --> 00:35:52.480
misgivings about this whole notion of suicide
and how it's portrayed in the film,

451
00:35:52.599 --> 00:35:57.119
but that's from a mental health perspective. But leaving that to one side,

452
00:35:57.119 --> 00:36:00.679
there's a few perspectives I want to
mention. First of all, we've spoken

453
00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:07.679
about Denis Vilneuve Canadian and this film
Humanist Vampire Canadian, so there's an interesting

454
00:36:07.719 --> 00:36:14.760
theme today in discussing these two films. Secondly, there's been so many vampire

455
00:36:14.840 --> 00:36:20.519
films. I mean, Dracula et
cetera has featured in I would say hundreds

456
00:36:20.519 --> 00:36:22.360
of films. I mean, look
at the hammer House of Horror in the

457
00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:28.360
sixties, look at Nosferatu as you've
mentioned, and the ninety thirty one Dracula

458
00:36:28.480 --> 00:36:35.280
et cetera. There's been so many
versions and looking at how vampires can relate

459
00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:40.119
to sentian beings, if you like
to put it that way in the world,

460
00:36:40.760 --> 00:36:45.159
and we've got, for example,
a gross example that's on Netflix at

461
00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:50.159
the moment, which is Oscar nominated, and that's El Conde. And then

462
00:36:50.239 --> 00:36:54.079
we've got the more benign sort of
elements of vampirism, which we see in

463
00:36:54.440 --> 00:37:01.079
Let the right one end of course, Twilight and other films of that nature.

464
00:37:01.519 --> 00:37:07.599
Now, this one I think works
quite well because it is a romance,

465
00:37:07.960 --> 00:37:14.840
sort of a romance dressed up as
a vampire movie, with potential for

466
00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:20.800
alternative endings, which I won't talk
about, and that's what I liked about

467
00:37:20.840 --> 00:37:25.320
the film. It did explore some
of those aspects quite well. Look,

468
00:37:25.599 --> 00:37:32.360
the whole issue of vampires in society
is one that deserves a documentary in itself,

469
00:37:34.920 --> 00:37:37.960
and this film would be an interesting
addition to that. When you say

470
00:37:38.079 --> 00:37:44.280
vampires in society, you're not actually
saying that vampires exist, aren't you.

471
00:37:44.320 --> 00:37:46.880
No, I'm talking about in society
as films depict them, thank you.

472
00:37:49.920 --> 00:37:53.480
Yes, although I must say the
vampires that meet sandworms, now that is

473
00:37:53.480 --> 00:37:59.920
a film to wahh, my god, we vampire meet sandworms with Harry Pop

474
00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:02.280
on the side. Anyway, Peter. That could become a cult classic like

475
00:38:02.320 --> 00:38:07.440
The Room. That's phenomenal. Peter. All right, let's start with you.

476
00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:12.159
I want to score out of ten
for humanistic, vampire seeking, consenting

477
00:38:12.159 --> 00:38:15.440
suicidal person rate at m ninety one
minutes. Peter. Yes, I like

478
00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:20.920
the film seven out of ten.
Greg green King seven out of ten.

479
00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:24.760
Jacqueline Hamilton. I just hedged up
a little bit on seven and a half.

480
00:38:24.840 --> 00:38:29.920
I really enjoyed this film, and
I'm doing this deliberately knowing what the

481
00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:31.079
scores are going to be. No, I didn't, but I'm just presuming

482
00:38:31.079 --> 00:38:35.199
and I'm giving it an eight out
of ten. So I really enjoyed it.

483
00:38:35.239 --> 00:38:37.920
I thought it was such a surprise
and so delightful as a surprise.

484
00:38:38.360 --> 00:38:42.360
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485
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488
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489
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490
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So tune in and keep tuning in as

491
00:39:05.559 --> 00:39:08.360
you are. All right, now, I want to go to a few

492
00:39:08.760 --> 00:39:14.599
I've seen some pretty amazing things.
Now, okay, Jackie, do you

493
00:39:14.719 --> 00:39:19.960
like slapstick or not? Oh?
Done? Well, it's fine. No.

494
00:39:20.039 --> 00:39:22.920
I mean when you say first,
the first thing that comes to mind

495
00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:25.440
is the three stooges. Yes,
it's funny. That's the first thing I

496
00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:29.280
think. On great do you agree
with that? When you think slapsticks?

497
00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:31.280
That's the first thing, because I
mean we're of a certain age and that's

498
00:39:31.440 --> 00:39:37.199
that's how we miss bean. Yeah, okay, what about you, Peter

499
00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:43.239
who you never you never see anything
other than when you were forced to at

500
00:39:43.239 --> 00:39:45.599
gunpoint? Is that right? In
the theater? That? Sorry? That

501
00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:49.920
was one except there was one exception
where you received an invitation you felt you

502
00:39:49.920 --> 00:39:53.000
couldn't turn the person down. I
remember that recently. Correct? Correct?

503
00:39:53.760 --> 00:39:58.360
But apart from that, yes,
you have to you have to be taken

504
00:39:58.480 --> 00:40:01.239
in a little white coat with hand
tied behind your back before you go into

505
00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:06.000
a theater. Correct. Oh,
a theater? So I thought with slapstick

506
00:40:06.039 --> 00:40:08.639
you were referring to cinema as well, And of course Lauren Hardy and Jerry

507
00:40:08.719 --> 00:40:12.679
Lewis at Teka. But yes,
sir, I'm not a theater person.

508
00:40:12.920 --> 00:40:14.800
No, no, no, but
but okay, So going on to the

509
00:40:14.840 --> 00:40:19.639
Slapstick event, do you do you
actually, I've never asked you this about

510
00:40:19.639 --> 00:40:23.679
it? Do you have a favorite
genre or not? I like all genre

511
00:40:23.920 --> 00:40:29.039
genres, but I must say a
good solid drama is one that I prefer.

512
00:40:29.440 --> 00:40:31.679
While we're talking about it, I'd
say, as far as I'm concerned,

513
00:40:31.719 --> 00:40:36.320
I like thrillers. That's my number
one. What about you, Greg?

514
00:40:36.559 --> 00:40:38.800
What would if you had to pick
one? I know it's like biggin

515
00:40:38.920 --> 00:40:42.480
children, but I'm asking you to
do that, Jackie in a moment,

516
00:40:43.639 --> 00:40:46.320
you're a like thrillers, anentry movies. Okay, thrillers, Okay, still

517
00:40:46.320 --> 00:40:52.639
got drama, thriller, thriller,
Jackie. My favorite would be unpredictable,

518
00:40:52.960 --> 00:41:00.000
quirky films. Ah. So that
covers kind of anything from foreign life,

519
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:05.079
language often to well it can be
a thriller or if there are enough twists,

520
00:41:05.639 --> 00:41:12.280
yes, but not sci fi,
not horror, and not usually vampires

521
00:41:12.400 --> 00:41:19.280
and zombies and right. So okay. The reason I'm mentioning all of this

522
00:41:19.480 --> 00:41:23.360
is I two nights ago I went
to see the opening of Ruthless the Musical.

523
00:41:24.039 --> 00:41:25.920
I'm not sure whether you're going to
see that one, Greg or not,

524
00:41:27.280 --> 00:41:30.519
but it's put on by Stage Bugs
production at a theater that bears my

525
00:41:30.679 --> 00:41:35.199
name, but it's not my theater. It's called Alex's Theater in Saint Kilda.

526
00:41:36.079 --> 00:41:39.039
So I'm going to pose this to
each of you. If you were

527
00:41:39.039 --> 00:41:44.719
to say, I'm going to use
the word talent, now, okay,

528
00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:50.199
is talent something that is? Like
I can look at something and say,

529
00:41:50.280 --> 00:41:53.119
isn't that wonderful? Aren't they talented? And you Greg could look at the

530
00:41:53.119 --> 00:41:55.599
same person and say, golly,
they're over the top? Et cetera,

531
00:41:55.599 --> 00:42:00.599
et cetera. So surely talent's in
the eye of the beholders, not something

532
00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:07.320
that or is it universal? What's
your view on that? S beenion?

533
00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:12.800
I imagine what what someone is?
Well, I mean, is there something

534
00:42:13.559 --> 00:42:17.119
If there's one human being, like
I mean Albert Einstein, I would have

535
00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:23.039
thought that he would be regarded as
incredibly talented by everyone? Or am I

536
00:42:23.119 --> 00:42:31.920
wrong Jackie Gee jumping from Slapstick to
Einstein because it's rolling up. Well,

537
00:42:31.960 --> 00:42:44.119
I would say talent and skill have
a more objective to be assessed than something,

538
00:42:44.119 --> 00:42:47.000
for example, such as humor,
which is a very subjective thing.

539
00:42:47.760 --> 00:42:52.280
So you know, I might say
someone is, you know, a very

540
00:42:52.280 --> 00:42:58.239
talented comedian, but if you don't
like that style of humor, you wouldn't

541
00:42:58.239 --> 00:43:05.079
agree. Whereas if you saw or
you know, some gymnastics, you know,

542
00:43:05.119 --> 00:43:09.760
Olympic gymnastics, you could barely dispute
if someone does a great routine that

543
00:43:09.800 --> 00:43:14.280
they are in fact talented. No, it's a very very good good way

544
00:43:14.280 --> 00:43:15.400
of putting it. Peter, do
you want to jump in here or will

545
00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:21.239
watch your view of talent? Well, talent is very subjective, and of

546
00:43:21.280 --> 00:43:27.360
course it's whether you're born with an
ability that can be developed or whether you

547
00:43:27.519 --> 00:43:30.840
develop that ability without having been born
with that. I mean, there are

548
00:43:30.880 --> 00:43:36.039
so many different perspectives on talent.
It needs to be fleshed out a lot

549
00:43:36.079 --> 00:43:38.519
more. Well, okay, so
with ruthless the musical, and it's ruthless

550
00:43:38.519 --> 00:43:43.719
with an exclamation mark. Talent who
has it and who doesn't? And I

551
00:43:43.719 --> 00:43:45.719
would say it's a word readily bandied
about, but it's fair to say that

552
00:43:45.800 --> 00:43:50.679
talent gets down to the eye and
obviously with a musical, the ear of

553
00:43:50.679 --> 00:43:55.119
the beholder. So that's the subject
of this absurdist slapstick musical. That's the

554
00:43:55.119 --> 00:43:59.719
reason I'm using it in the same
breath, Jackie. It was first performed

555
00:43:59.800 --> 00:44:04.320
off Broadway in nineteen ninety two,
so I'm not aware that it's been here

556
00:44:04.360 --> 00:44:07.000
before. It may have been,
but if it has, I hadn't seen

557
00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:12.440
it. It's a rollicking spoof of
classic shows like Gypsy and Mayme. And

558
00:44:12.519 --> 00:44:15.199
also, I don't know whether you
saw this as a movie. I suppose

559
00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:19.599
this would be a the you,
greg or Peter, did you see The

560
00:44:19.719 --> 00:44:22.360
Bad Seed the movie? Oh?
Yes, yes, for the fifties,

561
00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:28.599
Yes, yes, indeed. So
it's a spoof of that kind of genre.

562
00:44:29.320 --> 00:44:31.920
So you've got the central players,
an eight year old called Tina Denmark

563
00:44:32.119 --> 00:44:37.519
played by an Adda Luisa ro and
she longs to be a star, and

564
00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:40.880
she'll stop at nothing to get there. And she has more talent in her

565
00:44:40.880 --> 00:44:47.039
little finger than her adopted housewife mother
Judy played by Britney Leslie, who flits

566
00:44:47.079 --> 00:44:53.599
about alone without her frequently absent husband. And an oft used gag in Ruthless

567
00:44:53.639 --> 00:44:57.840
the musical is that we hear his
name enough, but never get to see

568
00:44:57.920 --> 00:45:01.960
him into their life. Five steps
a larger than life talent agent called Sylvia

569
00:45:02.320 --> 00:45:09.800
Saint Krar played by Dolly Diamond and
Sylvia Saint Crar saw Tina perform at a

570
00:45:09.880 --> 00:45:17.880
senior's home and was immediately enamored.
So Saint Krar convinces the mother, Judy

571
00:45:17.960 --> 00:45:23.199
Denmark, to allow her daughter to
leave school to pursue fame and fortune.

572
00:45:23.800 --> 00:45:28.360
Now, okay, we have to
suspend belief here, Jackie, because she's

573
00:45:28.440 --> 00:45:30.800
eight years of age, right,
and you imagine a talent agent say to

574
00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:35.079
you or the parent, well,
she shouldn't go to school anymore, or

575
00:45:35.079 --> 00:45:39.360
she should just seek Broadway fame wouldn't
happen. But there we suspend belief.

576
00:45:39.920 --> 00:45:45.840
So only before this can happen because
the mother does agree, Tina desperately wants

577
00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:51.599
the lead role as Pippi Longstocking in
the school musical. Right, so you

578
00:45:51.639 --> 00:45:53.639
get this sense of the absurd in
terms of what I'm talking about. And

579
00:45:53.800 --> 00:45:59.440
this school musical is being orchestrated by
the teacher known as Miss Thorne played by

580
00:45:59.480 --> 00:46:04.840
Stephanie Astra John now Greg greek King
as a teacher. Have you ever ever

581
00:46:04.960 --> 00:46:09.199
in your life been involved in a
school musical? No? Would you like

582
00:46:09.280 --> 00:46:15.840
to be not jiply, but you're
into theater you know, you could play

583
00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:19.119
an important party. You could be
the dramaturge, you could be you know,

584
00:46:19.159 --> 00:46:22.880
you could get involved if you wanted
to. I'm just putting it out

585
00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:27.480
there. And Peter, you who
counsel sort of school type students. I

586
00:46:27.519 --> 00:46:30.760
mean, would you like to get
involved knowing nothing whatsoever about theater? Sorry,

587
00:46:31.119 --> 00:46:37.840
they just said absolutely not. That
would be my worst nightmare. Ah

588
00:46:38.360 --> 00:46:44.559
okay, Well anyway. Among those
Tinas up against is ten year old Louise

589
00:46:44.719 --> 00:46:52.519
Luhmann played by Olivia Shirra Lambou and
she is the entitled, disinterested, and

590
00:46:52.599 --> 00:46:57.880
talent less daughter of uber wealthy parents. So, surprise, surprise, not

591
00:46:58.480 --> 00:47:01.679
Tina lucks out and is in rage, so Luise Luhmann gets the role.

592
00:47:02.800 --> 00:47:08.400
This is when the talent agent,
Sylvia Saint Kras suggests that Tina become the

593
00:47:08.599 --> 00:47:14.800
understudy, ready to step in at
a moment's notice if Lehman is unavailable to

594
00:47:14.840 --> 00:47:19.280
take the stage for the show's one
performance. Right, so you've got an

595
00:47:19.440 --> 00:47:23.840
understudy for a performance that will only
be performed once. Right there we go,

596
00:47:24.320 --> 00:47:30.880
and with a devilish smile, Tina
accepts Treachery is afoot, and the

597
00:47:31.119 --> 00:47:36.559
musical Ruthless takes off from there,
with revelation after revelation following, and that

598
00:47:36.599 --> 00:47:45.440
includes seeing the mother Judy Denmark wellatorily
shrug off the talentless housewife tag, as

599
00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:50.400
well as shocking family secrets being revealed. The music's by Marvin Laird, lyrics

600
00:47:50.400 --> 00:47:55.400
and book by Joel Paley. Everything
in this in the clearly outrageous production played

601
00:47:55.400 --> 00:48:00.199
strictly for laughs, is camped up
so with affectations of the ready to cast

602
00:48:00.280 --> 00:48:04.039
go for the doctor. Why wouldn't
they? After all? Over the top

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is the name of the game,
and that includes ear piercing solos. And

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you know, some of the voices
are very good, but I'll tell you

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what. I had to actually put
my hand over my ear. I thought

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my ear drums are going to burst
at certain times here. But you know

607
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that's the whole point. So you
might want to consider taking what do you

608
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call them? The things just stick
in your ear earplugs right. The frivolity

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rather is infectious. The one line
has come thick and fast as Sylvia Saint

610
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cra Dolly Diamond is totally at home. She owns the stage. She pouched,

611
00:48:37.679 --> 00:48:45.119
she pontificates Britney Leslie Milk's Judy Denmark's
naivete and more, while Luisa Oro's

612
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facial expressions underpin Tina's two faced persona, and I was particularly taken by the

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performance and also the singing the vocal
proclivity of Stephanie Astra John as the teacher

614
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and want to be actor Olivia Sharyl
lamble Shot Lamboo is a hoot as a

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precocious youngster, and she also plays
the scheming made to a Tony Award winning

616
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star. Emma Claire Waxman shines as
Tina's grandmother who is open to more than

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a tipple. Shaw Issay Damian Jones, Well, he's done a really fine

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job with the set designs homely setting
giving way to Broadway glamour. After interval,

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Frocked and Flouncey described some of the
costuming by again Britney Leslie. So

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this is heaps of fun, it's
wild, it's wacky, but at two

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and a half hours including interval,
it feels stretched to me, particularly in

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the first act. Having said that
I reveled in the amped up skulldugery in

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Act two thought that worked very very
well. It's directed by Chelsea Matheson,

624
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musical direction from Dave Barclay, and
Ned Dixon playing at Alex Theater, insn

625
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Kilda until the twenty fourth of March. It's called Ruthless the Musical but put

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on by Stage Bugs Production Productions Plural. One thing that I should mention at

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this point is that Alex Theater is
a great venue. It is easy to

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park around because they're needed parking except
when the Grand PRIs on. But you

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know, it's really easy to get
around, and it's it's really growing as

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a venue. I've looked at what's
coming up and I know they you know,

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they were struggling to get shows.
They're no, I mean they're at

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the stage now. They're putting on
a lot of different shows and a lot

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of shows are increasing in terms of
if you like their professionalism and I like

634
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that. I think it's going on
a really good projectory trajectory and I would

635
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urge people to support what is good
local theater. Look, i'd call this

636
00:50:49.440 --> 00:50:52.719
a semi professional show. You know
it is a professional show, but you

637
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know it's not something that I I
mean, I'd like to see this done

638
00:50:57.960 --> 00:51:02.599
by the Krem Crem OFVS put on
at maybe the Comedy Theater. I'd like

639
00:51:02.639 --> 00:51:07.239
to see where you know, whether
it would could hold its own in that

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00:51:07.280 --> 00:51:12.199
sort of venue. I think it
could. And bear in mind this was

641
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an off Broadway show, so Jackie
like the humanistic vampire seeking suicidal person it

642
00:51:19.519 --> 00:51:22.400
is. It's that kinind of production. Do you think that this would appeal

643
00:51:22.400 --> 00:51:28.519
to you or not? Jackie?
Jackie's left us. Oh she's left us

644
00:51:28.639 --> 00:51:31.039
well, and that's that's no good. She's she's got out it. What

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00:51:31.119 --> 00:51:34.800
about you, Greg? Given what
we've talked about, do you think this

646
00:51:34.840 --> 00:51:39.000
would appeal to you? Probably not? Oh? Okay, well, only

647
00:51:39.039 --> 00:51:44.840
because of the comparisons to a movie
that you quite liked. Peter, I'm

648
00:51:44.840 --> 00:51:46.320
not even going to ask you,
not even going to bother if it was

649
00:51:46.360 --> 00:51:49.159
a movie, you'd see it,
though, wouldn't you? A? A

650
00:51:49.800 --> 00:51:52.480
oh if it was a movie,
Paps. But it doesn't sound overly appealing.

651
00:51:52.519 --> 00:51:55.559
I think I prefer to see The
Bad Seed from nineteen fifty six now

652
00:51:55.639 --> 00:51:59.519
if you go, yes, very
good? Okay, So that's it on

653
00:51:59.559 --> 00:52:02.920
now Route the musical at Alex's Theater, a couple of other things where we

654
00:52:02.960 --> 00:52:07.119
won't have time to sort of go
into the fine detail. But I think

655
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it is certainly worth mentioning a couple
of shows that are on at the moment.

656
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There is dry Land. Now this
has got a very very incendiary title.

657
00:52:19.519 --> 00:52:22.760
It's called The Explosives Factory. It's
part of Theater Works, and I

658
00:52:22.840 --> 00:52:27.000
presume it used to be an explosive
factory, hence the name. I'll have

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00:52:27.039 --> 00:52:30.400
to research that. But have you
been there, greg or not? It's

660
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okay, it's up a bean,
Yeah, thank you, it's upstairs.

661
00:52:35.400 --> 00:52:38.239
It's sort of this hole in the
wall and sort of you walk up these

662
00:52:38.920 --> 00:52:43.639
very very set of stairs, very
narrow steep set set a stairs, and

663
00:52:43.679 --> 00:52:46.320
you got this theater wonderful anyway.
Dry Land it's put on by a flat

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00:52:46.320 --> 00:52:51.679
pack and it's got a lot to
say about abortion, female friendships and being

665
00:52:51.679 --> 00:52:53.559
a teenager, but it does take
a long time to say it. And

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it's the brainchild of an American playwright
called Ruby Ray Spiegel. And back in

667
00:52:59.840 --> 00:53:04.960
twenty fourteen, dry Land, which
was her first full length play, premiered

668
00:53:05.119 --> 00:53:10.679
again off Broadway. Spiegel was twenty
one years old and still a playwriting student

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00:53:10.679 --> 00:53:15.559
at Ya University at that time.
Isn't that a remarkable achievement? Right,

670
00:53:15.199 --> 00:53:20.480
You're studying and you've suddenly got a
play premiering off Broadway. That I think

671
00:53:20.639 --> 00:53:23.320
initially went for over a year.
I mean, that's pretty amazing, isn't

672
00:53:23.320 --> 00:53:28.119
it, greg Ay something like that. So this is on at Theater Works

673
00:53:28.119 --> 00:53:34.400
at the Explosives Factory, and it's
ninety minutes without interval, and look,

674
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I liked it. I thought again, it could have been done in closer

675
00:53:37.960 --> 00:53:42.559
to sixty five minutes maybe, or
seventy minutes. I thought. I found

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00:53:42.559 --> 00:53:45.679
the first forty five minutes dragged,
but other than that, I found it.

677
00:53:45.239 --> 00:53:52.079
There's a really interesting dynamic between a
couple of friends here and it's worth

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00:53:52.079 --> 00:53:58.480
considering dry Land at Theater Works Explosives
Factory. So I should say that is

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on until the ninth of March.
And the other thing that I wanted to

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00:54:02.400 --> 00:54:08.440
mention before we left for the day
is a really good production, outstanding production

681
00:54:08.760 --> 00:54:14.719
called The Hate Race at Maltause Theater. And racism comes in many forms from

682
00:54:14.719 --> 00:54:17.840
many quarters. It can strike well
with the speed of a bullet trayin that's

683
00:54:17.880 --> 00:54:23.159
the subject explored in a dramatic but
also a very humorous way through a series

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00:54:23.199 --> 00:54:30.000
of anecdotes from the colored English daughter
of West Indian parents. And it's a

685
00:54:30.079 --> 00:54:36.119
really The plays writer is Maxine Benieber, Clark originally wrote the piece as a

686
00:54:36.159 --> 00:54:39.519
memoir, which became a best seller, and thereafter she adapted it for the

687
00:54:39.559 --> 00:54:45.119
stage. So this is very much
her story and it's told through remarkable acting

688
00:54:45.400 --> 00:54:51.639
from Zara Newman, who I raved
about in an MTC production. She just

689
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assumes the character of Maxine the playwright
and others of significance in Maxine's life,

690
00:54:57.400 --> 00:55:00.239
and it starts with the first day
of preschool and it it basically goes through

691
00:55:00.360 --> 00:55:06.000
until she's a young mother. It's
amazing and it's also got a musical element,

692
00:55:06.239 --> 00:55:12.400
and the musician in this is absolutely
brilliant at Smooth Voice Velvety. Her

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name is Coudermpiza, and I yearned
to hear more of her brilliant production.

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It really is. This one is
excellent, sixty five minutes without interval,

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playing at Beckett Theater at Malthouse Theater
until the seventeenth of March. And the

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other one I will be talking about
next week, also at Malthouse Theater is

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The End Paul, which I saw
last year at leigoas Fairfax Studio at Art

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Center Melbourne. So they've brought it
back and I'm really looking forward to seeing

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that one and I will talk about
it with you next week. That is

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it, Folks first on film and
entertainment, over and out.