S02E22: Unearthing Greed and Tragedy: A 'Killers of the Flower Moon' Roundtable

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First on phil and Entertainment, A
big film to start conversation with this morning.

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Jackie Hamilton joins us Pete Kraus Greek
King. Nice to have you all

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on board. So let's go with
Leonardo DiCaprio, Robert de Niro and a

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movie that is three hours and twenty
six minutes in duration. My understanding is

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that was originally going to be six
hours. I'm not sure that's true or

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whether that's just somebody pulling my leg, but there we go. M rated.

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It's based on fact. It's a
Western prime drama set in Oklahoma in

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the nineteen twenties, looks at the
serial murder of oil rich Native Americans.

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So, after arriving home from the
First World War, character called Ernest Burkhardt

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played by DiCaprio moves in with his
wealthy cattle rancher uncle, whose name is

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William king Hale known as King late
by de Niro. He begins working as

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a driver. King and his older
brother, I'm talking about Ernest's older brother,

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Brian played by Scott Shepherd, is
already on King's payroll and the man

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King rules the roost in this neck
of the woods. He makes out that

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he's considerate that he's caring his generous
to the American Indians from the Osage Nation,

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but what is really interested in is
the untold wealth that sits within the

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community. They became some of the
richest people in the world overnight in eighteen

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ninety four after oil was discovered on
their land. King is constantly maneuvering to

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get his grubby pawes on a fortune
in the first instance that involves Ernest marrying

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into the family of a native.
Everything falls into King's hands as Ernest finds

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himself chauffeuring Molly Lily Gladstone, and
the pair takes a shine to each other.

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When the inevitable happens, the two
get hitched. King's nefarious plans are

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cemented readily manipulating Ernest, and with
the latter being on side, King impresses

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upon him that Molly, her sisters, and mother are not long for this

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world. Their life expectancy is already
shorter than the white man's, and kings

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sees to it that when they won't
die quickly enough of natural causes, he

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hastens their demise. Truth be told
that although Ernest loves his wife, who

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suffers from diabetes, he gets deeper
and deeper into the mire, aiding his

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uncle's plans to secure rich pickings.
It's based on the book Killers of the

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Flower Moon, The Osage Murders and
the Birth of the FBI by David Grand's,

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screenplay by Eric Roth and directed by
Martin Scorsese. Off the top,

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do any of you know how many
movies Scorsese has made with either of the

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two stars. I know one of
them is seven, but I'm not sure

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DiCaprio five with DiCaprio, I thought
it was. I thought it was more

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like seven. Okay, maybe somebody
can google while I'm chatting. Anyway,

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what he's crafted Scorsese is quite compelling. It's a stretched movie, though,

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I mean it didn't need to be. The running times I mentioned nearly three

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and a half hours. You could
have lost an hour and it still would

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have hung together. I thought de
Niro was at his dominant best. He

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really is the puppet master, imposing
himself on the film from the first scene

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in which we see him sort of
take to take to the Grand stage,

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and he shows no letup throughout.
Quite an assured portrayal of a man who

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believes he can get away with anything
and for a large part of the movie

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he does. DiCaprio is solid,
is reliable acting self. He immerses himself

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in the characterization of a man who
knows which way his spreads, but it

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mind you. He deliberately depicts Ernest
as not the smartest tool in the shed,

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and his uncle prizes that out of
him early on in one of the

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early scenes, reflected in a number
of decisions that the character makes. My

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only qualm with DiCaprio's performance, though, is what our term is over alliance

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on a downturned lip and scowl.
I reckon less would have been more.

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He sort of he reverts to that
on far too frequent occasions. I thought

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Lily Gladstone was really impressive as the
Quiet, showing quite restraint bringing that to

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her portrayal of this proud hossage woman, and she's nothing if not respectful.

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Production designed by Jack Fisk, I
thought was superb. Really feels like an

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authentic step back into time or in
time, and also striking as the cinematography

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by Rodrigo Prieto that includes some really
stunning visual effects. One in particular that

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I can think of is when there's
a fire. It's a quality production.

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It brings to life an ugly chapter
in American history which was driven quite frankly

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by one word green. And I
should mention the title Killers of the Flower

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Moon, which is quite evocative,
but you're not quite sure what it all

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means. Those two words flower moon
a reference to the first full moon occurs

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in May in the Northern Hemisphere,
and that's when everything's in blue. But

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the pretty picture doesn't last long because
summer is around the corner. The five

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year reign of tearry in the movie
starts in May nineteen twenty one with a

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discovery of the body of a murder
dosage woman called Anna Brown, who happens

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to be one of Molly's sisters,
and the author, David Grant, uses

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the symbol of the flower killing moon
to represent what's perpetrated upon the assage at

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the hands of whites. So this
is a movie that started on Thursday,

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and it will come to the Apple
TV Plus platform for streaming at some point

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I'm not sure quite when. And
that's it rated. M What did you

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think of Killers of the Flower Moon, Jackie? You just saw it last

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night, didn't you. Yes,
I went to a late screening that I

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might say I was delighted to see
was quite packed. A lot of people

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want to see this film, and
there was a lot of commentary. As

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people were leaving, they were chattering
and talking, which is always a great

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thing to see when coming out of
a film, which meant people were responding

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to it. You know, they
had reactions. I thought three and a

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half hours was too long. It
need to be that long, but I

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think the reason might have been that
the game plan was to put it on

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TV Apple TV. Yeah even meaned
six hours was I heard six hours was

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going to be divided into two three
hours lots, and that works well at

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home because you can put it on
pause to pop out to the toilet or

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make a cup or pour another glass
of wine or whatever. Whereas when you're

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stuck in the cinema, if you
need to do any of those, you

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missed part of the film, which
in this case would be pretty devastating.

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So I can see why he made
it that long, but for a cinema

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screening, it really didn't need to
be and it did start to annoy me

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because I think that, you know, the telling of the story was enough.

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I thought I wondered how much as
I was watching it, I wondered

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how much of it was true,
and I've since done some reading and believe

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that it's pretty close to the truth. Probably my biggest problem was it with

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the film was de Niro. It
was almost much like a vehicle for DeNiro.

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He completely dominates it in such a
way in the personality of de Niro.

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I'm not talking about the character of
King, but in the personality and

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the look of de Niro. You're
looking at Robert de Niro the whole time,

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and you're where it's him. Whereas
you mentioned DiCaprio's downturned mouth, it

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was a fabulous disguise almost so it's
sometimes men have more difficulty disguising themselves into

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character and film than women do because
they can do all things with him and

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makeup that it's harder with men.
But it actually gave DiCaprio an extraordinary personality

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right there on his face. Whereas
de Niro was wasn't King so much as

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DeNiro. You were watching it,
Okay, he was masterful, but a

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lot of it he was, And
to be honest, I saw past that,

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and I saw he inhabited the character. And arguably, if you would

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like to put what you've just put
as a contention. Maybe maybe King was

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very DeNiro like. So, I
mean, whether he's playing himself or playing

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a character. To me, he
was playing the character. And you didn't

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get frustrated that that downturn lip kept
on coming. It wasn't a downturned lip,

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it was it was the whole mouth. I think he worked quite hard

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on that. My guess is because
it's not a very natural you know,

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he really managed to get the the
sides of his mouth. No, did

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he no? End how I thought
it looked fabulous. So I thought it

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was like, we're going to agree
to disagree on that one. Now I

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know you're wrong, that's okay,
Yeah, that's all right. I expected

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that, you know. When I
said go along and see this movie,

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I knew we were going to.
So it'd be very interesting to see what

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the other calctms in this group Pieter
thinks of it, and the affectations were

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spoken about in a few moments.
Okay, so did you like it or

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did you not like it? Overall? So? Yes, I mean a

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great story. I didn't know any
anything about the actual story, and the

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truth of this fascinating was well the
movie. The movie was to me too

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many characters a bit too cluttered.
I lost my way a couple of times.

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I lost hearing a few critical points
of discussion. I think that some

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of it wasn't quite Maybe it's worth
seeing again from that point of view as

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it comes together. But you know, it's a very very good movie,

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of course, But I wouldn't say
love Blood loved it very solid. You

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haven't mentioned Lily Ladstone, who I
thought was terrific is the wife? Well,

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what did you think of her extraordinary
character? She portray with this beautiful

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calm. She has the most beautiful
tonal sound in her voice. Yeah,

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and a calmness in her demeanor.
She was very she held it together beautifully.

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Yeah, agreed, so the other
Now, mister difficult Peter, good

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good morning to you. Good morning. Now let's start with the characterizations in

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your thoughts, and then I'll get
Greggs as well. Excellent characterizations. This

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is a story I didn't know anything
about, and this film was very instructive.

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In fact, I felt it was
too short at three and a half

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hours. I am not kidding.
I would have liked more fleshing out even

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of the story and the characters,
especially the way the film conclude, which

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I won't spoil for people, but
this is such an incredible story and so

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emblematic of the way the white man
has ruined indigenous populations and this is just

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another example of that. And the
treatment of the Osage people which was a

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bit more subtle than the although some
were killed off, but a bit more

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subtle in terms of ingratiating themselves into
the wealthy community and then bumping them off.

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It's just an incredible situation and shows
so much of the way white man

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has treated indigenous populations badly. Look
at the Australian situation, look at other

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countries and Canada and so on.
Lily Gladstone is absolutely superb in a softly

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developed, beautiful role. And I
also like to see Jesse Plemons, John

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Lithgow and Brendan Fraser who up later
in the film film. I'm so please

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for Brendan Fraser because obviously he made
a huge comeback as a star of that

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movie. What was the name of
the movie that he was the ale the

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while. Yeah, he was just
fabulous in that and yeah, I was

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only a small role, but still
nice exactly, And the film also has

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a surprise appearance at the end.
But I won't spoil that for people.

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Look, this film deals with so
many issues and beautifully woven together by screenwriter

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Eric Roth together with Scorsese. It
also looks at things like the race riots

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that happened in Tulsa, the Ku
klaps Klan and the infiltration that they had

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on non white communities, the Freemasons, the FBI and their involvement in trying

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to come to grips with what was
going on in this community. And sad

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to see Robbie Robertson who died only
recently. His music and music score is

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used very effectively in this film,
an absolutely superb standout of the film.

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Killers of the Flower Moon highly recommend
it. Hmm, okay, well,

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and you didn't You haven't commented on
the downturned lip or the fact that Robert

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de Niro is playing Robert Denio.
According to Jackie, what are your thoughts

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on those? I read that all
this character and characterization. I don't fixate

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on particular little things like that.
Okay, what about you, Greg,

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I haven't seen this mine. I
need to set aside tween and a half

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hours of my life, haven't I? You do absolutely well? Okay,

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so let's get scores we'll start with
I think, Peter, you'll be the

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high watermark here. Jackie, I
suspect you'll be sort of low watermark,

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and I'll be in the middle.
So let's go with you. It's m

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I rated, as we said,
runs for three hours and twenty six minutes

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Killers okay, Flower Moon Jackie seven
and a half out of ten. I'm

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giving it an eight and a half
out of ten. Peter, Ah,

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Just as an aside, your comment
always about film running time. When you

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see lots of theater, especially lots
of theater musicals that run for three three

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and a half hours, you never
comment on running time there, So I'm

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really surprised that you would fixate on
that in the cinema. That's actually not

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true, because I do see a
lot of musical theater, and there is

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not There is not a lengthy running
time for most musical theater compared to the

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movies of this length. The longest
that I've seen was recently, well in

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recent times, I should say,
is Chess, which ran for three hours

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including it of all, which I
wasn't terribly troubled by because I thought it

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was such a wonderful performance. I
didn't realize it was that long, and

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somebody said to me, it depends
on the version of chess that you see.

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There's been various iterations, but most
musical theater, most that I've seen

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a lot of it this year,
runs for two and a half hour hours

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including interval. Right, So in
other words, it's two hours ten minutes

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or two hours twenty minutes, which
means it's two hours. So many many

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movies run for two hours, So
I reject your recalcitrant marks. There you

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go. It's having an interval that
makes the difference, Peter, I mean,

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three and a half hours is a
long time to sit unmoving when you

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don't know if there's a point at
which you could duck out. Okay,

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yes, we'll yes, bladders are
very important. All right, Well it's

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there's really stooping. Yes, thank
you, keep going, all right.

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So, in terms of my score, Killers of the Flower Moon, at

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this stage my film of the year
ten out of ten. Yeah, I

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mean I expected that it's interesting.
I suppose I was expecting this to be

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special, and I was thinking,
all right, well, as you know,

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my film of the Year was established
a few weeks ago or a couple

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of months ago. Now with Oppenheimer
which was the first movie i'd given ten

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out of ten two in probably a
decade. I didn't think this was as

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good as Oppenheimer. Jackie, your
view on that those two as points of

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comparison, Well, I went to
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see this the second time. It
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it was an Oscar? If these
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Oscar for best, because I gave
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Peter, if you gave it ten
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have any criticism of it at all? Was there any one thing that you

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didn't like about them? Not at
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much of interest in the storyline.
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DA might be a you know,
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where you know, or it might
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as a six hour and you could
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Peter, as it stands now,
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of the eight billion people who actually
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like what's the longest movie ever made? I think there was one in Sweden

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that ran for several weeks, so
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that on our program, Peter.
There's also the Andy Warhol film that runs

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for twenty four hours. Yeah,
yes, that's I mean, there's a

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challenge for you. What's that opera
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As well? There's one that I'm
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it. And I could set my
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a twenty four hour film. So
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Peter, You're not even close.
Here we go, Here we go,

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all right, So in your wildest
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this running time. Okay. It's
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and it's indeed about logistics. Obviously, runs for eight hundred and fifty seven

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hours. That's a running time of
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you go, better than you l
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it is? I'm not sure,
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googling. There's something on collider.
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all time will take you thirty five
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are you going to need? Right? There you go? So is it?

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I think? Well? Okay,
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wasn't it? Yes? Exactly,
there you go? And Lawrence of

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Arabia. That is it true that
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half hours? So only the able
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She is Jackie, You and I
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Yeah, so obviously you look,
what what are we even talking about

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a short movie like like this,
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talking about it at length and all. So you've won your argument. Peter,

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what's three and twenty six minutes amongst
friends? Right? Greg? Just

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out of interest, where did you
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seen this year? Was at the
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it a seven. I haven't made
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couple of months ago. Will seven
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to your top that's not even going
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Opena, Yeah, okay, all
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JR eighty eight FM. You are
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Gregory and to myself Alex's first first
on film and entertainment. Now. I

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wanted to see this because Jackie said, you've got to go and say it.

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You've got to see it. The
crime is mine, which is I

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mean, I like French movies.
Jackie. You generally have said to me

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I don't like French movies, is
that correct? Oh? No, generally

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French romantic comedies don't tickle my funny
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okay, The Crime is Mine is
an emirated film. It's one hundred and

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two minutes and it's a French comedic
crime aper. It's a scrumptious delight.

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I actually have to applaud you for
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usually I said that you'll listen to
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to you. Yea. Usually it's
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pulling drawing pins and of whatever it
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comes to mind whenever you're recommending something. I'm thinking, I know, really

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do I absolutely have to see this? So thankfully I did listen. I

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found it quite intoxicating from the get
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And the two takeaways I took from
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women are not to be sneezed at. What I should have taken out of

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it, Jaggie. It's an excellentcination. Right. So we're in Paris in

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nineteen thirty five. What a great
city Paris is anyway, Madeline of Ad

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played by Nada the terror Kivitz is. This struggling, attractive young actress can't

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land her role and she lives with
an unemployed lawyer called Pauline moo Leon played

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by Rebecca Marder. That the pair, who I might say straight away even

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share a bed, are about to
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are months behind on the rent.
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use the murder of a lecherous aging
film producer whose name is Montferrand played by

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Jean Christopher Christophe Bouvet to their advantage. And when I say aging, I

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think he's only sixty two, so
maybe not bad aging, but he probably

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looks a little bit older than he
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Ferrand turned her down for a part
in a movie, and that she shot

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and killed him in self defense after
he began pawing her, and her motive

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in confessing is to ignite her acting
career, because obviously the case will generate

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the great deal of publicity, and
she hopes it's all going to be good.

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Well. Pulling the strings feeding her
her lines is her best friend,

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her roommate moliof the character played by
Rebecca Marda, and there's a pompous acting

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judge eager to see the case brought
to court. His name is Gustav Rabussa

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played by Fabris Lacini, and he's
very happy to have the narrative fit the

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crime, because having wrapped everything up
so neatly and quickly, he can only

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see his standing in the judiciary grow. Now more than a passing interest is

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being shown in Maderi, the debudding
actor by Rabussa. The acting judge's friend

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and companion at the time the murder
was committed. His name is fernand pal

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Moradi played by Danny Boone. He
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builder, and he's richly benefited from
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he's really had to end Vaderi a
helping hand. Also worth mentioning here is

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that Vaderi's in love with Andre Bernard
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a tire magnate, and he with
her. But that business, the tire

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business of the father, is in
trouble, and Barnard gambles. Now he

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proposes a particular arrangement to his girlfriend
Vaderi, whereby he would marry a rich

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plain, Jane Airess and Vderi would
become his mistress. Surprise, surprise,

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Vadieri is none too pleased with that
contention. The impending court case, though,

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is set change Bernard's resolve and finally
lots of characters here. In the

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wake of the legalities, a self
serving, haughty, silent film star with

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aspirations of grandeur comes out of the
woodwork. Odette Chamte is her name,

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played by Isabelle who bare, who
choose the scenery. She's looking for a

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big pay day, is desperate to
resurrect her career, and it's all of

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this. The Crime is Mine is
based on a play by Georges Bear and

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Louis Banoul, and it's been written
and directed by Francois Orson, who made

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the great film Swimming Pool, and
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Well, I loved everything about this
movie. The Crime is Mine. Bright,

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breezy, charmingly preposterous, beautifully scripted
and pieced together. Twists a plenty,

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exaggerated affectations adopted by the actors that
suit the work really well. Nadia

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and Rebecca present as this wickedly appealing
duo who used their feminine wiles to great

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effect. They bat their eyelids and
do all sorts of other good bits and

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pieces for Brisletchenie revels in the entitledment
that his position of power carries and Daddy

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boone Ooza's charisma and confidence. But
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the piece is the cherry on top, she presents Chamet as this blow hard

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full of bluster waits stop until she
gets watched he wants. And I really

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admired the period detail that's intrinsic to
the film. The cars Wow, the

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production design, the set decoration,
the costuming, what a delight, and

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the music by Philip Romby adds heart
and tension. I couldn't recommend The Grimer's

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Mind any more highly lighthearted and quite
bewitching. And seeing you recommended it to

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me, Jackie, you can start
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gonna wear I'm going to agree with
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I did recommend it to you.
Sorry about that. Sorry to be disappoint

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you by agreeing with you. You
know everything you said. You know the

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music was setting the era, the
people, the characters, the young women

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who flounce in and totally still the
show, and you know, the men

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are in the background as you know, the love, the exaggeration and the

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melodrama of it. And I think
he made the story sound quite complex,

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but it's actually not very hard to
follow. It's got a lovely, you

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know, a lovely sensibility to it
as it goes along and kind of twists

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and turns quite a bit. The
centerpiece to it, and obviously in terms

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of people wanting to ingratiate themselves to
move up the ladder, whether that be

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the actors or whether that be the
lawyer or the jarge. So I suppose

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if you want to make it down, you're right, that's what it's all

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about. But I thought, I
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this did, which was to bring
all the pieces together as seamlessly and that

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humorous spent. Sometimes exaggeration goes over
the top, and you feel the exaggeration

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here. It was intrinsic to the
success of the film, wasn't it.

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It was delightful And I think it
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film. The dialogue was totally on
point, it all made sense and it

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was just wonderful to listen to.
Greg. Did you see the Graver's Mind?

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I haven't seen you on Why you
do list for this weekend? Good

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stuff? Do you see it?
Preg Do you see it? Oh?

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Will and Peter, Yes, I've
seen it. I really enjoy Francois Ozon's

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films, and I'm glad you mentioned
swimming Pool. He also did Friends,

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which was a really incredible story and
Eight Women as good examples. It's also

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interesting you mentioned that the film is
set in Paris in ninetly thirty five,

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which it is, except it was
mostly shot in Belgium, which I thought

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was quite amusing. Anyway, Crime
Is Mine is based on a French play

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of the thirties, which Hollywood remade
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forties, and was the inspiration to
some extent for Roxy Heart and Chicago,

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the musical based on that. So
this sort of idea of a woman accused

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and what happens to her in terms
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have committed and how that plays out, especially seeing Isabelle who pair later in

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the film playing someone like Sarah Bernhardt, who was a noted silent film actress

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at the time. I think all
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good entertainment. It's well put together
by Ozon and his team, and he

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really does make enjoyable films which deal
with some amusing sort of storyline. So

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yes, I like The Crime Is
Mine, perhaps not hugely as you both

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did. But what didn't you like
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it's another matter of what I didn't
like. I just felt it was

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a fairly obvious sort of confection that
I could see where it was going,

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especially when Isabelle who pair into the
scene. But anyway, leaving that to

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one side, it's yeah, it's
enjoyable and certainly recommend people go and see

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it. Well, I think Jackie, you and I are going to be

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very similar on this, so let's
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M rated The Crime Is Mine.
Your score players eight out of ten,

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and I've given it an eight and
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Peter and Presumer, you're in the
seven territory somewhere there you can read

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me like a book. Yes,
I gave the film seven out of ten.

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What we should now turn to is
that there is a film that is

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going to well. We were shown
this week as part of the British Film

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Festival, and that the British Film
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It is my favorite film festival without
any question, because so many of the

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movies go on to be launched.
Now a lot of the film festivals are

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handled by Palace and they do it
to a revig job. You got the

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Jewish Todayal Film Festival which starts next
Monday, and Pete, I think you

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and I are going along to the
opening night there. But the British one.

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There are so much good material there. The Old Oak is look Ken

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Loach and Paul Lavity. They've made
a lot of movies together. In fact,

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I think the Old Oaks their fifteenth
collaboration if I'm not mistaken. And

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Xenophobia is at the heart of this
one. The title, by the way,

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which you might think is about a
tree. It's actually the name of

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a pub in the northeast of England
which is a popular watering hole that's seen

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better days and it's operated by a
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a role filled by Dave Turner.
I really like him, actually,

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I think he's a terrific actor.
He's struggling to make ends meet, like

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most residents of what is an impoverished
town and it's never recovered since the demise

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of the mining industry, which really
was its central focus. And we're talking

403
00:31:56.039 --> 00:32:02.680
about the twenty sixteen twenty sixteen an
influx of Syrian refugees that is not welcomed.

404
00:32:04.279 --> 00:32:07.880
It adds pressure and changes the dynamic
of the town. One of these

405
00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:14.559
refugees is a respectful young woman called
Yara played by Eblamari. Speaks very very

406
00:32:14.559 --> 00:32:19.359
good English, and she learned the
language while volunteering to help foreign nurses as

407
00:32:19.359 --> 00:32:22.480
she and her family lived in a
refugee camp for a couple of years after

408
00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:28.319
escaping her war tour nation, and
her father, who was a tailor,

409
00:32:28.839 --> 00:32:34.640
was taken by the state sponsored militia, is now missing presumed debt. Now

410
00:32:34.799 --> 00:32:40.279
Yarra's most prized possession is the camera
that her dad gave her, and upon

411
00:32:40.400 --> 00:32:45.599
exiting the bus on her arrival in
a new home in the northeast of England,

412
00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:51.000
it's taken. It's toyed with it, it's broken by an outspoken local

413
00:32:51.400 --> 00:32:54.640
upset that she had taken a photo
of him from the bus window, and

414
00:32:54.680 --> 00:32:59.880
that sets in train a chade of
events that sees is kind hearted but to

415
00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:07.759
Yarra interact with and befriend DJ Ballandine
the Dave Turner character, and eventually befriending

416
00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:10.799
many others in the town, and
in doing so, TJ cops the ire

417
00:33:12.200 --> 00:33:15.319
of many of the bar's regulars.
Right so he's the proprietor, he's the

418
00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:21.839
guy who runs the place. But
the bar's regulars don't like what he's doing

419
00:33:21.920 --> 00:33:25.680
by befriending the Syrians, and TJ
in particular, and amongst those not liking

420
00:33:25.720 --> 00:33:29.759
it as a mate that he went
to school with, and the fallout bubbles

421
00:33:29.799 --> 00:33:34.839
over after TJ agrees to fix up
the pub shabby back room, which has

422
00:33:34.920 --> 00:33:38.359
laid dormant for twenty years, and
the purpose of doing that is to facilitate

423
00:33:38.400 --> 00:33:43.839
integration, but it comes at a
cost, and as the movie unfolds.

424
00:33:43.880 --> 00:33:49.680
We find out more about Yarra's family
and TJ's own personal struggles. But you

425
00:33:49.720 --> 00:33:52.599
think about Ken loachch gritty, working
class films, that's what he makes,

426
00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:57.160
and so it is with The Old
Oak. It's a movie that tugs at

427
00:33:57.200 --> 00:34:01.240
the heartstrings. It presents both hardship
and high I thought the key character who

428
00:34:01.240 --> 00:34:07.839
were very very well established, and
Dave Turner's a natural now who had to

429
00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:12.079
He's basically had to turn his life
around, but nearly did not make it,

430
00:34:12.920 --> 00:34:16.920
although admittedly I did struggle to reconcile
that narrative, the idea that he

431
00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:21.639
was a really bad guy who has
now become a good guy. In simple

432
00:34:21.719 --> 00:34:24.960
terms, I mean, it just
didn't correlate with the empathetic soul that we

433
00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:30.079
actually see on the screen. And
Ebla Maari too, She makes this really

434
00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:34.559
favorable impression as the measured Syrian who
wants the best for everyone. Hers is

435
00:34:34.599 --> 00:34:37.679
a rather low key portrayal of a
woman who's experienced a great deal of pain

436
00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:44.559
and heartbreak. I should also mention
Claire Rogerson. She impresses as the enthusiastic

437
00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:50.559
Laura who works with Yarra and TJ
to propagate the Syrians integration into the community.

438
00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:53.280
Look, I appreciated, and I
was moved by the Old Oak.

439
00:34:53.360 --> 00:34:57.719
But I could feel myself being manipulated. And I think, what were the

440
00:34:57.760 --> 00:35:02.440
words you used with with a film
that we've just spoken about beta, That

441
00:35:04.079 --> 00:35:07.760
feeling of you know, you're being
turned one way or the other. I

442
00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:13.039
could foretell the chess pieces being shifted
for dramatic effect in The Old Egg,

443
00:35:13.280 --> 00:35:16.000
and I wish I couldn't mind.
You don't take that to mean I questioned

444
00:35:16.039 --> 00:35:21.960
the film's intent or the focus on
the evocative subject matter, which I applaud.

445
00:35:22.599 --> 00:35:25.679
It remains emotionally wrought throughout. It
carries a message of the benefits of

446
00:35:27.159 --> 00:35:31.079
solidarity and integration, very solid messages, no question about that. It will

447
00:35:31.199 --> 00:35:35.719
play as part of the British Film
Festival. I dare say it's going to

448
00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:38.800
get a cinematic release thereafter. But
see it at the British Film Festival,

449
00:35:38.880 --> 00:35:43.519
which starts on the first of November. What did you now, Greg?

450
00:35:43.599 --> 00:35:46.440
Have you seen this was there on? Oh? You were to you or

451
00:35:46.480 --> 00:35:49.920
behind me? Yeah? Did you
like it or not? Yes? I

452
00:35:50.159 --> 00:35:54.480
liked it. This typical can Loats
film, bit gritty, bit grim and

453
00:35:54.760 --> 00:35:59.000
sort of looking at the lives of
the down and out and working class people

454
00:35:59.119 --> 00:36:04.840
in Britain absence so thick it doesn't
occasionally need the subtitles there. But I

455
00:36:05.159 --> 00:36:07.480
like the lead character. I thought
he was well rounded there, and as

456
00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:10.639
you said, you know a bit
of a conflict between him and the rest

457
00:36:10.679 --> 00:36:15.400
of the town spoke there. And
I like the Syrian girl as well.

458
00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:19.559
I thought she had bought an innocence
in it to the role there and the

459
00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:24.000
usual collaboration between ken Loachs and Paul
Leberty. There get the sense that sometimes

460
00:36:24.519 --> 00:36:30.400
the dialogue is improvised on the set
there because the way it comes across unfortund

461
00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:35.400
The natural there beautifully shot as well
by his regular cinemas Ogrover there, and

462
00:36:35.480 --> 00:36:38.679
you get a great sense of place
and the location and some of the town's

463
00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:43.440
history there. So yeah, I
liked it. Yeah, it's not as

464
00:36:43.519 --> 00:36:46.280
downbeat as some of ken Loach's films, so it doesn't have a bit of

465
00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:51.400
a humanity to it. I noticed
that too, Greg. I thought that

466
00:36:51.519 --> 00:36:55.000
was interesting because often it's very very
dour, but then it were up moments

467
00:36:55.079 --> 00:37:00.519
and you know the idea of hope
there, which which he does and always

468
00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:04.119
introduced. Yeah, quite right,
what about you, Peter? Did you

469
00:37:04.440 --> 00:37:08.119
like The Old Oak very much?
So? I'm a great fan of ken

470
00:37:08.199 --> 00:37:12.480
Loach's films, I mean, going
all the way back to Kez, which

471
00:37:12.599 --> 00:37:16.880
was such an imp Yeah. Yeah, well really cares at school? Yeah,

472
00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:21.360
so do I agree? That's what
my reaction when Vader said that is,

473
00:37:21.440 --> 00:37:25.159
Gee, how long ago was that? Well? Eighteen fifty student?

474
00:37:28.159 --> 00:37:30.719
By then you're an old man,
weren't you, Vader? So you know,

475
00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:34.079
well I was there at the launch
that's right now. Anyway, it

476
00:37:34.159 --> 00:37:37.079
started at sorry that you mean the
beginning when Adam and Eve were kids,

477
00:37:39.119 --> 00:37:43.800
when they were figment of their fig
leaf. Anyway, let's prove back to

478
00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:50.119
ken loathke Iy Daniel Blake, more
recently Land and Freedom. He's very much

479
00:37:50.280 --> 00:37:55.000
a strong socialistic film maker as well
as humanistic, and his stories. Yes,

480
00:37:55.079 --> 00:38:00.960
they may have a fairly predictable arc
insofar as they look at the down

481
00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:06.679
and out or the working class and
how they are enmeshed in difficult circumstances,

482
00:38:07.199 --> 00:38:10.719
but there's always a glimmer of hope
and certainly that comes through in The Old

483
00:38:10.760 --> 00:38:17.280
Oak and ken Loads at eighty seven
has certainly made a really impressive film which

484
00:38:17.360 --> 00:38:24.400
also looks at cultural integration and understanding. I think it's a very effective film.

485
00:38:24.480 --> 00:38:29.480
And do you have any reservations like
I mean I expressed not already?

486
00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:31.639
None. Okay, so again it's
all right. You can be wrong too.

487
00:38:32.159 --> 00:38:36.840
What about you, Jackie? Didn't
you just be ken Loach's last film?

488
00:38:37.159 --> 00:38:43.039
Peter, Yeah, it's going to
be, but whether orsibly possibly?

489
00:38:43.440 --> 00:38:46.079
Well, by the way, talking
about people who are a little bit older

490
00:38:46.119 --> 00:38:50.960
making movies, why haven't you made
one of three two hundred and twenty three

491
00:38:51.360 --> 00:38:54.360
Peter, No, sorry, that
wasn't my question. My question was with

492
00:38:54.559 --> 00:38:59.920
regards to Clint Eastwood. Is he
still he'd be willing to his knight?

493
00:39:00.639 --> 00:39:06.719
Is he still making movies? Yes? Okay, so age is not a

494
00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:12.440
barrier, which I'm delighted to hear. Jackie, surely you've got reservations about

495
00:39:12.440 --> 00:39:16.480
the Old Egg. Well, instead
of giving any reservations, I'll let you

496
00:39:16.599 --> 00:39:23.440
know that the friend that I took
along to this particular screening and I both

497
00:39:24.679 --> 00:39:29.840
shed a tear on more than one
occasion through this film because you didn't see

498
00:39:29.880 --> 00:39:34.199
me at the film? Is that
right? I saw you and argued with

499
00:39:34.360 --> 00:39:39.360
you. Indeed, indeed, you
are an argumentative soul. Aren't you.

500
00:39:39.480 --> 00:39:45.760
Yeah, keep going. I think
if I have an emotional response to a

501
00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:51.119
film that much, it's a great
film, you know it? Really why

502
00:39:51.360 --> 00:39:54.719
documentary about what's the documentary about the
two thousand Esenden premiership? That'll bring a

503
00:39:54.760 --> 00:40:01.760
deer to your eight? Thank you? I haven't mentioned football once now I

504
00:40:01.840 --> 00:40:07.559
had of It's a good opportunities just
did. Yeah, all right. I

505
00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:09.840
like the characters in this. I
like the story. I liked the compassion.

506
00:40:09.960 --> 00:40:15.039
I like the human the humanity of
it. I like I didn't have

507
00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:21.480
a problem at all with TJ,
who was had reason to be a depressed

508
00:40:21.599 --> 00:40:30.679
man and found something that sparked life
back into him and he found hang on,

509
00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:34.760
you say he had reason to It
was only the explanation given that gave

510
00:40:34.840 --> 00:40:38.800
him reason to. Surely, right, I mean it was a convenient explanation,

511
00:40:39.199 --> 00:40:44.639
wasn't it. What do you mean? I'm not following you at all.

512
00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:49.119
You said he had reason, right, I'm questioning the reason. I'm

513
00:40:49.199 --> 00:40:52.199
basically saying, Okay, that was
introduced later in the piece, much later

514
00:40:52.280 --> 00:40:55.360
in the piece, and it was
almost like a throwaway line and then all

515
00:40:55.440 --> 00:41:00.639
of a sudden, you know that
that kind of Yeah, I just I

516
00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:04.519
just know you are you. You've
been very obtuse, and I don't need

517
00:41:04.599 --> 00:41:08.840
to follow you down for at all. What I'm saying is TJ, the

518
00:41:08.920 --> 00:41:14.679
publican of the Old Oak, had
his issues and concerns, had been through

519
00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:20.400
extremely bad times financially and emotionally and
everything. The whole town was downbeat.

520
00:41:20.760 --> 00:41:28.519
It was a terrible time, and
the arrival of the Syrians for some in

521
00:41:28.679 --> 00:41:32.320
the town it was cause for We
saw all the points of view, cause

522
00:41:32.400 --> 00:41:36.639
for anger, depression. There was
you know, the economy. They were

523
00:41:36.760 --> 00:41:38.719
cruel, there was bullying, it
was all that side of it. But

524
00:41:38.920 --> 00:41:45.119
TJ took the other side of it
and he showed compassion and I liked the

525
00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:51.760
way that that was developed and the
way that it changed. It allowed him

526
00:41:51.840 --> 00:41:54.480
to be a better man. And
of course there's there was a lot more

527
00:41:54.559 --> 00:41:58.800
to the film as well, but
that's the very human side of the main

528
00:41:58.960 --> 00:42:05.320
characters there. And of course Yara
the girl was very even tempered and calm

529
00:42:05.440 --> 00:42:10.039
and beautifully characterized by the actress.
And there was not a lot for me

530
00:42:10.159 --> 00:42:14.920
to not like about this film.
And I had a good cry as well.

531
00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:17.079
Well, I can give you a
good cry on h IV. Want

532
00:42:17.239 --> 00:42:21.320
just to give me a call and
I'll give you reason to cry? Is

533
00:42:21.679 --> 00:42:24.000
that what I should be saying?
You know that the emotional resonance of football

534
00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:28.519
does it to me every time.
Okay, Having said that, we have

535
00:42:28.639 --> 00:42:31.760
talked about the British Film Festival.
What's the what's the opening night film?

536
00:42:31.800 --> 00:42:37.800
I've gone blake for a moment,
Peter, can you help out? Yes,

537
00:42:37.960 --> 00:42:44.239
it's about the man who saved a
number of Jewish children, exactly One

538
00:42:44.360 --> 00:42:45.880
Life. I think One Life?
Well done? Yeah, well done?

539
00:42:46.039 --> 00:42:51.199
So that look, this is it's
cute. Art is the sponsor if you

540
00:42:51.320 --> 00:42:55.079
get online British Film Festival dot com
dot au and it runs from the first

541
00:42:55.159 --> 00:43:00.519
of November to I believe the twenty
nine. I mean it's across Australia,

542
00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:04.599
so there are different dates in different
cities. But you can buy tickets now

543
00:43:04.920 --> 00:43:07.719
you can have a look at all
the movies and yeah, one it is

544
00:43:07.760 --> 00:43:13.800
called One Life and that's Wednesday,
the first of November. But you'll have

545
00:43:13.840 --> 00:43:17.480
the opportunity to see it sort of
throughout the festival. Ideas say as well

546
00:43:17.519 --> 00:43:21.199
with you not I'm just having yes, you will. The other thing I

547
00:43:21.320 --> 00:43:25.039
was going to say, there's an
important movie called Golder, which is also

548
00:43:27.800 --> 00:43:30.960
part of the Jewish International Film Festival. Is it not better? So no,

549
00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:34.800
it's not no no, that was
a one off screening. It's actually

550
00:43:34.920 --> 00:43:40.000
it belongs to Powers at Transmission Films. Eddie had just arranged a one off

551
00:43:40.039 --> 00:43:45.440
screening for the launch off. Okay, well, I'm certainly going to be

552
00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:51.599
looking out for that's it's already at
the como. You can see it at

553
00:43:51.599 --> 00:43:55.480
four o'clock on the second November if
you're interested in doing so. All right,

554
00:43:55.559 --> 00:43:59.079
So look, I'm going to give
you the low mark on the old

555
00:43:59.159 --> 00:44:01.360
Oak, no doubt, and then
we'll build it up from there. I'll

556
00:44:01.400 --> 00:44:05.639
give it a six and a half
out of ten, Greet, what about

557
00:44:05.679 --> 00:44:08.280
you? Seven and a half to
eight? Okay, well all right,

558
00:44:09.159 --> 00:44:13.960
then we will go with Peter.
Yeah. I gave an eight out of

559
00:44:14.039 --> 00:44:19.039
ten, really liked it and Jackie
Wow, I gave it eight out of

560
00:44:19.079 --> 00:44:22.440
a ten and another half a point
for making me cry. So that's eight

561
00:44:22.440 --> 00:44:24.679
and a half out of ten.
I'm sorry. So there's a crying scale,

562
00:44:24.840 --> 00:44:30.519
is there? Now? It's a
crying game. I've got to say

563
00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:35.679
it. Thank you. Sorry,
I I I used to Greet. Do

564
00:44:35.719 --> 00:44:38.159
you remember many years ago when you
and I know we've been speaking on here

565
00:44:38.199 --> 00:44:42.480
for donkeys years. We used to
have clock time, or was that with

566
00:44:42.559 --> 00:44:45.440
somebody else. I used to sort
of give give scores for different elements of

567
00:44:45.519 --> 00:44:49.880
a movie, and if I had
to look at my time piece, that

568
00:44:50.079 --> 00:44:52.480
was a bad thing. Right.
So with a movie such as that which

569
00:44:52.519 --> 00:44:55.440
Peter Wants, which goes for thirty
five days, I would have looked at

570
00:44:55.480 --> 00:44:59.280
my timepiece a lot, right,
so it would have been marked down on

571
00:44:59.320 --> 00:45:01.679
that level. In the you sort
of meshed all of these scores to get

572
00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:05.800
a total score. Maybe we should
be doing it. You're running time.

573
00:45:05.800 --> 00:45:08.039
The film should't matter. If she
had a film of good quality or not

574
00:45:09.000 --> 00:45:12.880
is important. No, No it
wasn't. But no, it wasn't about

575
00:45:12.920 --> 00:45:16.000
that Greek. If it's a movie
of thirty five days, that's totally compelling.

576
00:45:16.239 --> 00:45:19.599
I wouldn't be looking at my time
piece, so I would get a

577
00:45:19.679 --> 00:45:22.960
high mark. But if I did, if I did need to glance at

578
00:45:22.039 --> 00:45:27.199
my watch or whatever it may be
that tells me the time, that's a

579
00:45:27.519 --> 00:45:29.920
you know, it's a mark against
the film. And the more you do

580
00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:32.440
it. So it wasn't about the
running time. It was merely about whether

581
00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:38.840
it sustained the Running last Night,
Killers of the Whatever, Rotten Tits.

582
00:45:38.920 --> 00:45:45.840
Yeah, but I was exactly on
your on the same page with you on

583
00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:50.480
that, and the first time I
looked at the time was an hour forty

584
00:45:50.519 --> 00:45:53.519
five in. Oh wow. Okay, I think twice again after that.

585
00:45:54.280 --> 00:45:58.840
Hmm. Well, okay, Now, look, we're going to do another

586
00:45:58.920 --> 00:46:01.119
movie today which opens next week,
so I think we'll hold it to next

587
00:46:01.199 --> 00:46:05.760
week. I wanted to talk about
but just just raise this issue with what

588
00:46:05.960 --> 00:46:08.480
will all of you have, any
of your jack You'll start with you because

589
00:46:08.519 --> 00:46:14.639
you do see some theater. Have
you seen immersive theater? No? No,

590
00:46:14.840 --> 00:46:16.400
not at all, not at all. Okay, do you know what

591
00:46:16.519 --> 00:46:22.119
it is or not really? And
I don't. Okay, okay, Well,

592
00:46:22.599 --> 00:46:27.599
because there's terms immersive and interactive,
so let me just sort of start

593
00:46:27.679 --> 00:46:30.440
there. And Greg, I think
you said to me last week you haven't

594
00:46:30.440 --> 00:46:32.880
seen immersive theater either, have you? No? I haven't immersed myself in

595
00:46:32.960 --> 00:46:37.599
that genre. No, And and
Peter, you and theater are like oil

596
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:45.800
and water, right, sorry,
oil water and football or sport right or

597
00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:52.280
other than dark and darkened film film
sort of situation. All right, So

598
00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:59.920
immersive theater is where you're basically part
of the action, but you're not interact

599
00:47:00.239 --> 00:47:06.239
with the audience with the characters,
right, so you're you're sort of you're

600
00:47:06.320 --> 00:47:09.639
part of the action, and you
can often follow different threads, which is

601
00:47:09.840 --> 00:47:14.159
what I'm about to talk about with
Hour of the Wolf at the at Moldhouse

602
00:47:14.199 --> 00:47:19.840
Theater which officially opened last night.
Now, so that and then there's interactive,

603
00:47:20.079 --> 00:47:23.199
and I mentioned that there's something going
on at the Astral in Collingwood which

604
00:47:23.239 --> 00:47:28.159
is an old picture theatre as well
as an old theater and a skating rink

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as well, and Love Last Lost, which is going on I think for

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another week unless it's been extended.
So that is both immersive and interactive.

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Hour of the Wolf is simply immersive, and what an uplifting experience it really

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was sixty five minutes of intriguing,
immersive theater, twelve characters interacting with it

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across a dozen rooms which are arranged
as a labyrinth within one of the theaters

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at Moldhouse called the Merrilyn and the
Maryln Theatre and also the doc Now as

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patrons, we can choose to Patrons
can choose to wander from room to room

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at will, follow one or more
performers or accommodation thereof. And we're in

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a small town called Hope Hill,
population two thousand, seven hundred and eighty

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one. And yes, greg I
counted all of them. No I didn't.

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So an ugly incident took place in
Hope Hill in eighteen sixty two,

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from which folklore sprung and concerns a
woman known as Missus Wolf. And when

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you think about the title Hour of
the Wolf, you're actually thinking of an

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animal. But there we go a
woman known as Missus Wolf who takes things,

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that's what she does, including children, in the middle of the night

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on one fateful day of the year, to be more specific, between three

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and four am, the very time
of Missus Wolfe's untimely demise at the hands

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of the townsfolk. And each year
there's a sense of unease, a portent

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of doom during that hour on this
day, Hope He'll becomes a cauldron of

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discontent and unease. And the events
of Hour of the Wolf involved locals and

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out of towner towners in several locations. Now I speak of a karaoke bar,

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at the side of a car crash, in a hospital waiting room at

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a church, in a bedroom at
a convenience store, at a party house,

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and in a laundromat. And there
are also three rooms I didn't get

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to in the sixty five minutes,
a pottery studio amongst them, the clock

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tower, and a space referred to
as the Never. And there is fear,

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there is bloodshed, there is death. So a karaoke singer takes a

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shock decision to marry and move away. A father in need of work agrees

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to pedal drugs to make money.
A filmmaker sacks two actors who won't follow

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her instructions, A long standing girlfriend
of one of them, who believes she's

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pregnant, kisses another man. A
new comer a tw is hiding a dark

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secret, and a pottery maker has
the inside story on the town's mysterious goings

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on. They're just some of the
narrative threads that run through Hour of the

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Wolf, which I've found intense and
thoroughly involving. It's been wonderfully pieced together

639
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by the writer and co creator Kaziah
Warner and the director and fellow creator Matthew

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Luwton. Fertile imagination and shrills are
the name of the game. The pair

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deliver in spades they're aided by a
troop of dedicated and enthusiastic actors who play

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their respective roles with the great deal
of passion and conviction. In fact,

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I couldn't get enough of the production. I did not want it to end.

644
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It's like you, Peter, wanting
Killers of the Rotten Tomatoes, Killers

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of the Flower Moon to be a
film that runs forever. Now not ever

646
00:50:49.519 --> 00:50:52.119
so much, but I'm definitely one. I'm up for a repeat visit to

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Hour of the Wolf because you can't
see and learn about everything in one pass,

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and the settings feel real that they've
got an authenticity about them. The

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set designer, and accordingly, who
I've praised before, she's really good at

650
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her job, has done a mighty
fine job here arranging all the necessary props,

651
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and there's lots of them. The
costuming, the lighting, the sound,

652
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the voiceover that punctuate the work,
lend weight to the theatrics. And

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the clock moves from three to four
am three times during each show, and

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then you start over at three am
in a different setting. I really like

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that. Bravo to those involved.
It ticks right, ticks clock, Thank

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00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:35.760
you punfully intended all the right boxes. I walked away feeling buoyed by what

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I've just seen, and surely that
speaks volumes about its impact. It is

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playing at Maryland Theater at moldause it's
got a really good season till the third

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of December, and I would urge
you to go along and see it.

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It's interesting. I've written my review, talked to a few people after I

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saw it last night, and the
interesting thing to me is that it got

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a few bad reviews that I I
totally disagree with these miscreans. I've got

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00:52:02.639 --> 00:52:05.960
no idea where they saw the same
show as I did. No, they're

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entitled to their opinion, but they're
wrong too, just like Jackie and Peter

665
00:52:08.519 --> 00:52:14.199
Offen? Are is that right?
And Jackie? Yes, I disagree.

666
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That's absolutely fine. So yeah,
look, that was great and I saw

667
00:52:22.679 --> 00:52:27.320
another show that really it's fantastic when
you see so many good shows that blow

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00:52:27.360 --> 00:52:30.320
you away. I'll talk a little
bit more about that next week, because

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we're fast running out of time today. And this is a good description of

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some of your views. Peter,
what the name of this show? Can

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you imagine? I'm asking you to
sort of channel me at this point.

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Do you know the word that I'm
going to use in terms of some of

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your thought processes to do with some
of the movies that you find are works

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of sheer genius and I think are
absolute crud. The word that comes to

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00:52:55.760 --> 00:53:00.199
mind is flaky. And the name
of the play that I wanted to talk

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00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:04.760
about, which I will next week, is called Flake. Isn't that appropriate?

677
00:53:06.719 --> 00:53:14.119
No, I'm actually thinking that you
know, but your lawyer sue,

678
00:53:14.159 --> 00:53:16.159
grab it and run will be on
then, is that right? Something like

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00:53:16.280 --> 00:53:21.880
that. I'm on Speeddale now,
yeah, exactly. Yeah. So Flake

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is a world premiere production. It's
part of Ink the Ink program which basically

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facilitates or does facilitate new Australian work. It's a great brilliantly written I mean,

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Checkie you would love the writing,
so would you. Greg. I

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really admire the way that it's done, and even you, Peter might appreciate

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it, although you'll never said foot
in the theater, so I'm on a

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lost cause in that regard. But
please do go along and see Flake at

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the at the Red Stitch Theater instint
Kilda as well. Great production. I'll

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talk more about it next week.
And we have reached the end. We've

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come from the zenith and we've we've
fallen so Peter, thank you so much

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for your participation. Really appreciated.
Jacqueline Hamilton cry a bit more for us

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with you next week. I come
to a river, Alex. Yeah,

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that's what I'm wanting. There you
go, Greg, You're you're the dad

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00:54:16.760 --> 00:54:20.880
joker. Have you got one to
leave us with or not? No?

693
00:54:21.840 --> 00:54:27.800
No, sure, it's all gone. It's all gone a pot, hasn't

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it. Folk. Thank you very
much for being part of the program,

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and we'll catch you next week on
First On Film and Entertainment.