463. Lessons Learned from the Scrubs Rewatch Podcast

0:05 Good morning podcasting, Morning Chat. Today is Friday, February 27th, 2026. And today, the surprising connection between the Scrubs Rewatch podcast and it's TV reboot revival and the exact AI prompts I used to turn 3 minutes of audio into tight, powerful 32nd clip. So if you're listening live on Clubhouse, hit the share button, bottom left hand side of the screen and share it. However, Clubhouse lets you. And if you're catching us via podcast, YouTube, LinkedIn, Facebook, please share this episode with a fellow podcaster. And now give us about 30 seconds and we'll get things rolling. Thanks for being here. Good morning again podcasting morning chat. Thanks so much for being here.

1:24 I am your host Mark Roddick and currently on stage with me my Co hosts producer Ashley Feller, Dr. Fay, Ralph Estep, Matt Bliss, Sid Meadows, Jonathan Howard and Nick Nolback And a good morning to Tide AKA Nikki. Oh, and also of course, BC Babbles has joined us as well. Today, it's Friday, so we're going to, of course, wrap up later with wins from this past week. But I do have a clip I want to play. You heard my intro, so I won't repeat myself. But before we dig into all the things, I wanted to talk to Jonathan Howard, who's on stage with us. Jonathan, 2 questions.

2:06 The first, how's your puppy Jack doing? How's the broken leg? You. I know you. I don't know if you shared this on the show or not. I know you shared it with the team. I can't remember, but I know Jack broke his leg recently, so I wanted to get an update from you. Jack broke his leg recently on Tuesday night. Yesterday he went into surgery. The surgery went really, really well. So I should be able to pick him up today and bring him home. He'll have a little cast on, but he's going to The Walking again in two to three weeks, which is much better than the 12 weeks. Originally they had said, yeah, that would have been tough. Yeah, Especially for you to deal with that because little puppies need to get their their exercise and get their energy out.

2:51 So they. Yes. Wow. And did I see you say he broke it in two places? And how did he break it? He broke it in two places. He jumped off the bed after his brother jumped off the bed. His brother's a 55 LB pit bull. Yeah, he's not. He jumped and he just landed wrong and broke. Yeah, his two. Bones right at the bottom right between the ankle and the knee. Poor guy. But I'm glad things are going well. And actually, Jonathan, the second question while I have you is would you be willing to share? Next week we're going to do another obsession worthy podcast. Do you want to share what we're going to do with that on Monday?

3:33 Do you want to share what that podcast is and what we'll be digging into? I will share what that podcast is, which is no, no such thing as a fish. It's kind of a humorous podcast from from over across the pond and it should be an interesting look at another obsession worthy podcast. Awesome. We will put a link in the show notes. So check that out if you want to play along. But we, as we always do, if you're new to our that particular series, we'll have plenty of clips to play so that you'll have plenty of context when you're listening to our breakdown of why that podcast and episode is so popular with podcast listeners. So stay tuned for that.

4:18 Also, Ralph, how's your wife doing? I know you gave us an update yesterday. How is she feeling? My wife is tough as nails mark so two days out from abdominal surgery. Tylenol only and she's running around the house with her Walker and I keep on telling her grab your Walker before you start moving. So yeah, she's it's hard to keep a good woman down. So thank you everybody for the support. She really appreciates it. Absolutely. I'm glad she's doing OK. All right, so with that, I want to get into this clip. I this actually, I was scrambling this morning to put all of this together last night probably, I don't know, around 9:00 was doing just a tad of doom scrolling as they say, and I came across one of my favorite creators, pop culture Brain.

5:08 He does a wonderful job of breaking down all things pop culture, you know, and it can be anything, movies, TV shows, etcetera. This clip was or this reel that he did was on the Scrubs TV show reboot that officially launched this week. I I was a big fan of the original series and it launched with two new episodes on Wednesday. I absolutely loved it. It cracked me up all the way through. I thought they did a wonderful job of recapturing the magic, pushing the narrative forward. It was just a wonderful job.

5:49 If you've ever seen Scrubs and haven't seen the reboot yet, I strongly encourage it. So when I saw the clip, I clearly wanted to stop and listen to what he had to say. And right towards the end, podcasting made its appearance in his breakdown. So I want to share that with you and then I want to discuss this further. So without further ado, here is that clip from. Pop culture brain Scrubs is my favorite show of all time and I am blown away by how good this sequel series is. I watched the 1st 2 episodes of Scrubs season 10. So here's the good and the bad without spoilers. First, the big. Question how did they address the failed 9th season? And the answer is they didn't.

6:31 They flat out ignored everything from that ninth season. Which was definitely the right move in recapturing the original essence. Of the show, they nailed that tricky tonal balance. The episodes were funny but never too absurd, and the drama was spot on. All in all, I was thrilled by these new episodes. Zach Braff and Donald Faison did a Scrubs rewatch podcast from 2020 to 2025, and having seen these new episodes, I think every actor rebooting an old show should have to do that. Because Zach and Donald spent hundreds of hours analyzing what worked and what didn't about the series while hearing feedback from fans, and I think that turned out to be essential. In recapturing the magic I. Really found that fascinating. I hadn't even put those two things together because I knew they did that rewatch podcast, but I really thought that that was a fascinating observation that pop culture brain made.

7:20 If you think about it, these are the two stars of the show they've been talking about every single episode for five years now. And you've got to think that that plays a role in, I know they're not their actual writers, but I'm sure they have a lot of influence on the show and it would probably, and I think did affect how they reprised their roles. So I thought that was really cool. By the way, in in a moment after we talked a little bit about these rewatch podcast, that clip was originally 3 minutes. And I told you earlier I was scrambling to get today's show prepared this morning.

8:03 And I managed in just literally probably 3 to 5 minutes, managed to take the three minute clip and break it into that 30 to 42nd clip. And I'm going to tell you exactly how I did that in a moment. But first, what do you guys think? Do you agree? Did Zach and Donald essentially reverse engineer their own success? And I know there are a lot of rewatch podcasts out there. So should more legacy shows require this kind of reflection before going into a reboot? Because look, whether you like it or not, reboots is definite. They're definitely a thing. And some people don't like it. They say, oh, it's not creative anymore, we're doing that. But it is a thing.

8:47 And people seem to gravitate to those reboots. So yeah, first, what do you think? Do you think more legacy shows should require this kind of thing? Yeah, Dr., go ahead. I don't know about requiring, but I will say that the Office Ladies kind of put the rewatch on the map because they have won awards over and over and over again for the office rewatch called Office Ladies. And there's it's spectacular because you hear all the backstage stuff. What was going on? Who read for a part but didn't get it? You know, you hear all that stuff and it's great. And I loved the reboot of Scrubs. It was very funny, very great.

9:34 I really loved it. I have not tuned into the podcast yet, but after today I think I might. I highly recommend that and Matthew has something. Go ahead, Matt. I haven't watched the new reboot yet, but it makes me think of a few others that have done similar things. I think mostly due to pandemic stuff as well. I know that Community has had a bit of content developed on the side of it to discuss things, but Community wasn't hasn't been lucky enough to have a less turbulent development journey that Scrubs did. Admittedly it's in different time zones and stuff in terms of their development, but I think the scrub stuff is an interesting case because for those that aren't aware, Scrubs season 8 had an end. They finished the show and I think at the time it was CBSI think or NBC or something wanted them to make another season. So they did and it sucked.

10:34 And so it makes sense that they they ignored it completely even though the characters were involved in it. But whether doing a rewatch podcast as research makes sense, I think it has to be a very unique case where that happens because Scrubs is ideally set up because not only did the series hold up for so long, did two of the main characters in the show create a relationship outside the show as well as inside of the show. Also, the person who created it and directed it has also been part of that podcast to a degree, I think. And not only has that director, but also the people surrounding the show have continued onto not bigger and better, but similar projects that mean they're still floating in the space to where a reboot is a possibility and the fandom is a possibility. A contrary case might be Firefly, which is a show that was cancelled after season 1 and yet for the last 10 to 20 years has had a a massive fandom where people want it back, but it's so far down the line now that they can't reboot it because it has a rich kind of story outside of the show. And the closest you get to it is Nathan Fillion and Alan Tudyk starting their podcast this year called Once We Were Spacemen, where it's them telling their stories, sometimes interviewing people from Firefly, but how their relationship started with Firefly and kind of filters around the rest of the industry. All that is to say, I think

12:04 Scrubs is a very unique case in this instance. Not all of them have such turbulent development processes. I don't know what am I trying to say. I hear what you're saying and I agree to a degree. I think that there is something to be said about these rewatch podcasts, especially when they are hosted by the actual players of that show that they are rewatching. I think that they're it brings a lot of value if they were to actually bring it back because like pop culture brain was saying, they spent five years breaking down these shows and and sharing what worked, what they thought worked and what didn't work. And I've got to believe that that does play a factor in a reboot to really come back strong and polished. I do hear what you're saying.

12:56 I mean there is some things, some factors, additional factors here like the fact that those two have a chemistry both on and off screen. And I think that does play a huge role in some of this success for with the reboot. I hear that loud and clear BC you wanted to add something as well. Go ahead. I'm not a Scrubs person. I, I was a very different genre kind of kid growing up. I was more the supernatural drama. So you would find me bingeing Buffy, you know, Charmed and stuff like that. But we've seen reboots of those shows as well recently in the past few years. And the only one between shows I've seen the original iteration of and then the reboot that I actually found myself enjoying was, you know, we had the the Melissa Joan Hart comedy Sabrina, the Teenage Witch in the 90s, early 2000s. But then Netflix launched The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina several years ago, and it was a hugely different genre take. It wasn't a comedy.

13:58 There was some comedy in there for sure, but it was much more of a dark horror spin, more alluding to the Archie comics that the characters based off of. And that's the only one I've seen where I really enjoyed the reboot, whereas the charm reboot that came out back in 201617 interesting start and they had a lot of opportunities to really take in the new millennia and put some new spins into it. But I got to say by like season 3 and four, I'm not mad that it was cancelled. The writing had really gone out the window and granted Sanford Sabrina by the by season 4 and what not, the writing had gone out the window.

14:40 And I think both somewhat coincide with the writers strike that was happening back at the time too. But I'm just like, you know what? It's just not, it's just not working. I just so I wonder if part of the formula has to be because I did enjoy the first two seasons of Sabrina. I wonder if the approach has to be scrape most the layers off of the original iteration and then find a a really new spin on the original core concept. And that way you're not trying to reiterate too many of the same thing that probably were as successful as they were because they were a special product of the time as opposed to decades later and find just a a new identity for the core concept. And that being said, I I have enjoyed the spin off podcast I've seen from state charm.

15:31 Do you know Holly Marie Combs, Brian Krause and Drew Fuller have had a podcast out for years discussing and rewatching the show. Charisma Carpenter from Buffy the Vampire Slayer has had her own show out in Apologies for the title. It's called The Bitches Back, which is a big line from her character on the show. And those have been great to watch because they they've been like Dr. said with the other. So talking about the behind the scenes stuff, how things occurred, the things we didn't know about until now. But yeah, the reboot stuff is, is hard, hard I think to to anticipate regarding quality and whether or not it should be a continued practice. You know, when Yellowstone was in its huge heyday, I got totally involved in Yellowstone, but they took a huge break in between seasons. It was like, I think it was like 2 years. This would have been a perfect thing to do during those two years.

16:31 I was doing some kind of rewatch podcast in between. Yeah, because after the 2, the two years, I was like, screw you, I don't even wanna hear you anymore. I'm, I've gone on to something else. Uh huh. This would have been a perfect thing for them to do. Yeah, and a good lesson, I mean, and maybe no surprise to our regular listeners, but that's something that we encourage, right? If you're going to take a break from your podcast, what else can you do for your audience in the meantime? What to to keep yourself relevant and to keep you front and center in their minds so that they don't lose interest or get angry about the fact that you've been gone so long? So yeah, something like that would make a lot of sense, I think. For sure.

17:13 I think Matthew Matthew might have just gotten his point. Go ahead, Matthew, Madam, but OK, go ahead. Sorry, I feel like I'm stepping on someone else's toes now. No, go ahead. The thing that I was going to mention is that to your point, Mark, I think they're starting to close the gap, not just on the effectiveness of podcasts as a reflection of how a show went, but the HBO has always been prolific with creating partner content to shows they release. My primary example is always The Last of Us. I've the first two seasons that they've made so far, as always had Troy Baker, who played Joel in the video game, and the two directors at the time, one that also directed the video game, just unpacking the episodes as they came out.

17:59 And those episodes would come out in the same cadence as the TV show came out. So it's not the same as you're talking about with Scrubs here, but they have the opportunity to leverage any kind of feedback and discussion they have in those podcast episodes for future seasons as well, even if it's not a reboot. So yeah. Yeah. Thank you, Matt. Yeah, that's true. I mean, HBO really does do a fantastic job of those companion, the companion content. I'm with you there. And Ralph also wants to chime in. Go for it, Ralph. Yeah, I just wanted to say I think there's a huge take away for all of us here, and that is nostalgia works. And when you're doing content creation, if you can build nostalgia into things, I think it just attracts that audience, esecially when you understand who your audience is. Go find some of the nostalgia that would be relevant to them. I look at the people on the screen here. A lot of us are in the in the in the little bit mid range of age and we know the things that would be attracted to us. In fact, it's funny, Mark and I were having a conversation yesterday.

19:02 We were talking about video calls and him and how we're recollecting back when we were kids and we thought it would be so cool if you'd be able to make a video call. And he was telling me about his trip to Sharper image and all that kind of stuff. And because we all realize that that goes back to something inside of us. And I think that's what these shows are really attempting to do. And I think we all can learn from that. And that is use nostalgia to your benefit because the the the same things that you've experienced, your audience has experienced also. Great point, Ralph, and this is a little bit Meadow or maybe it's a little bit of a stretch. I'm not sure. But this whole idea of the fact that Scrubs, they did their rewatch series for five years over the past five years, and how I do believe and agree with Pop Culture Brain that that I think does play a role in the success of this reboot series.

19:51 But what if we treated our podcasts the same way? What if instead of constantly chasing the next episode, we spent time analyzing what actually worked, right? So I know that's a little bit of a stretch from what we're talking about here, but I think that so many of us get so focused on. OK, what's going to the next episode? And we got to make the next episode even better than the last, but that we don't spend enough time actually going back, listening to it, analyzing it and figuring out what worked and what doesn't. And yes, of course our audience helps navigate that. But at the same time, these are our shows, and I think it's important for us to decide at times what we think is working well for the show and what isn't.

20:40 We have to enjoy what we're doing, but I think it is important to to go back and really listen. And if you're somebody who is taking off and you're having an offseason, I think that's a wonderful opportunity to go back and listen. I think we have to get past at least some of us have to get past the idea of, oh, I can't listen to myself talk. Well, I think it's important that you do. I think you have to get past that because I think that the best way I've learned how to improve is going back and re watching, re listening the content that I've put out there. Dude don't tell me to re listen to my stuff. This is boring.

21:22 I mean, it's it makes me crane like, who is this guy? That's, by the way, if you didn't recognize, that's Janae joining us over on the video live stream. Yeah, I know. I get it, Janae. That's what I'm saying is people kind of feel it's cringy to go back and listen. But I really think that there's something to that. I think that's the way that we learn from our content creation. Go ahead, Ralph. Yeah. I just wanted to reiterate on that because I work with a speaking coach. I've been working for about the last month and whenever I create content, I send it to her. And we had our meeting yesterday and we listened to it together and she goes, you know, you could do this here, you could do this there. And I have learned more in the last 30 days going back and reviewing what I'm doing. I mean, she's looking at video stuff, she's looking at audio stuff and just nuanced stuff like slowing down when I talk, taking that pause.

22:16 And I'm going to tell you, if you don't go back and listen to your stuff, you don't go back and look at what you're doing. You don't see those things. And so that's where somebody like Mark who does that kind of coaching for you with your content would be a great connection to make because you need to sit down with somebody because you may not even see it if you do it yourself. You've got to get one-on-one and go and analyze what you're doing because if you want to do better, it takes practice and it takes reflection. And that's one things I heard you say in there, Mark, is that analyzation. A lot of people say, I'm just going to put it out there. I don't ever listen to it. I think that's a huge mistake. I'm not saying I honestly think you should listen to everything that goes out, because I think sometimes stuff goes out. You're like, man, if I change that a little bit, it'd be better. But Mark, I just want to trumpet what you said because I think you've got to analyze what's out there and really critically review it. Ask other people to sit in with you, you know, have a listener party, for lack of a better term. I think that's a great idea.

23:07 Thank you, Ralph. Appreciate that. Matt, did you want to chime in? Just to say that if you make a show and you don't want to listen to it, then maybe that tells you a bit more about the show that you're making. Yes, and actually I'm going to give you a Ding on that one. I think that's a excellent point. Thank you, Matt, anyone else want to chime in? No, Alex, someone that actually reviews shows and does this. I just actually guessed it. And to The Walking Dead, it they're doing a rewatch and you do get a lot more perspective in terms of, you know, what happened, where you're going and how it all fits. And I think that's why binge watching is so popular now, because you forget and we have to wait that week or that year or whatever else.

23:59 And you can you just forget all the nuances of the show again, Walking Dead or you know, I know a lot of people watch The West Wing a lot, whatever it is, but people will be analysing the fact that they did a Scrubs rewatch is, you know, to some people is kind of like why? But for a lot of people, that's really important to them. The other thing to say, if you're looking to become a better speaker, you can get a coach. You can do all those other things. You can also try to find places like Toastmasters, which I know might seem like not a normal thing, but these are people. They want you to speak. It's for people that are nervous or trying to work out their way of speaking. And you get evaluated every week. There are a lot of opportunities that people can do and the best thing you can do is to edit yourself. Once you edit yourself, you find out how many umms and Ahs and whatever else and you, you, you kind of self edit as you go. Thank you, Alex, appreciate that take. And yeah, that reminded me go check out Riverside's Instagram. They just put out a clip.

25:10 Maybe it was yesterday, but it was very recently. They put out a clip that and it was of call her Daddy and she had Hilary Duff as a guest. And the entire clip were the two of them just saying like, because you know, Riverside takes out the the filler words. And so it's like 30 seconds of like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like. And it cracked me up that that just reminded me that of that. Thank you, Alex and Ashley, I want to come to you because you just put something in the chat that I think is important to highlight. Would you mind sharing out loud? That was sort of to echo what Ralph was saying is, you know, I used to play 5-6 nights a week live everywhere and I had a portable audio recorder even back then.

25:56 And I would record my set and I'd even record the video at some point. And on the way home I'd usually have at least an hour drive home. I had listened to my set and I would self critique and you know, sometimes it was really hard to listen to, but I learned a lot by listening to those. Thank you for sharing that. Because that's the rub for me when podcasters say, oh, no way, I can't go back and listen, You know, I feel like there's such a correlation, such a tie between musicians and podcasters, right? And I think it's so important. Like the musicians, generally speaking, all the ones that I know anyway, in my experience, they don't shy away from going back and listening to what they're what they're recording because they want to improve upon it. They want it to sound exactly the way that it's happening in their heads, right.

26:49 So why do we as podcasters think that we get this pass that, oh, we don't have to go back and listen? I think that's a wonderful point. And Nick wants to chime in as well. Go ahead, Nick. The not wanting to go back. And listen, at least for me, having. Been the 1 editing all my podcasts is that I've already listened to the episode countless number of times as I'm going through the editing process. So the the want to go back and then listen yet again to the episode It it just kind of like I'm over it at that point. Not that I don't pull stuff away from it throughout the editing process, but going back and listening to it after I've listened to it 5 plus times to the editing process, I'm just kind of. Worn out by it.

27:32 That's fair. And let me ask Ashley. Ashley, so you, you know, we clearly know that you go back and you keep listening, tweaking to you, to your music. But does that mean once the final product is done and out the door, you don't listen to it from at least once from start to finish? Oh, not at all. Because the guy that produced my record, Dave, he says, you know, we could always do another mix. So sometimes I go through and I listen to my album again and I make notes and you know, if I ever did want to re release the record, I would have those notes to give to Dave and we can implement those things. I get it, Nick, like because I have felt the same way at times when I do those kinds of things. But ultimately, I think we're doing ourselves a disservice by not going back and listening to the finished, polished product. And again, like, to Janae's point, too, like, I get it. It feels cringy.

28:24 It feels annoying. You don't want to go back and have to listen again. But I do think we learned something by listening to whatever we've deemed as the final product. And much to Ashley's point, yeah, I mean, we could always go back and Polish more, Polish more. But once you've actually put that stamp out, put it out for the world to hear, I think it is important to go back and listen. Absolutely. And I totally agree, Mark. Now I was making a joke my first season, right? It's it's hard to listen to, but every once in a while I'll go back and listen to like season 4 and three. I'm like, wow, I sounded really smart in there. Maybe I did some work. And you know, we we mentioned comedians, podcasters, musicians, they listen to this stuff.

29:09 But if you look at literally every single aspect of humanity, football players, basketball players, they look at their reels like, hey, what did we do wrong? Right? Because that's the only way to get to that Olympic levels. And yeah, you've got to know what you're doing wrong so that you can fix it. Absolutely. Thank you, Janae. I'm going to go to Dr. and then Matt. And then I want to tell you how I turned that 32nd clip from a 3 minute clip in a matter of minutes. I want to share how I did that with ChatGPT. But first, go ahead Dr. Well, I want to rewind it back to when we were talking about binging, binging episodes.

29:51 I am a huge fan of the Traitors huge, all the alliterations of it, the UK version, the Australian version, the I mean all anything. That's if it's in English, I'm on it. And the problem is, is that I wait until the very last episode to be shown to air and then I go in so I can binge the whole thing. The biggest problem I have is staying away from all the, you know, the, the stuff that comes up on my feed about it. I don't want any spoilers. I don't want to know who got voted off. I don't want to know that that's my biggest problem. But I am a binger.

30:36 That's fair. Matt, you want to chime in, go ahead. If you don't re listen to the podcast episodes you do and you don't see your improvement, I think you lose an opportunity to fall in love with how your voice sounds. And I think every podcaster goes on this journey but never gets as far as enjoying when they're on an episode. And you might call it ego, you might call it, you know, genetics, whatever. But sometimes I'll listen to an episode of my podcast and I'll go, oh, oh, who's that handsome man talking? Yeah, he said I'd listen to him. And you, you, you get to that stage. And I think people feel bad about getting there and enjoying it potentially.

31:17 But there's a stage you get to where you're just like, you know what, I nailed that, and I sound amazing. This person sounds great, too. But you know, they come for me, right? Your ego helps. Yeah. It does and great point too, Matthew. Thank you and and by the way, Ralph had quoted you in our live stream public chat over, you know, on YouTube and the other platforms. Really appreciating your quote. Where is it? Here you go. If you aren't willing to listen to your content, maybe you need to rethink releasing it to your audience. I think that is a yeah worth repeating for sure. Thank you for sharing that again, Ralph BC did you want to chime in?

31:59 Yeah, Quick note on on The Voice and when we approach podcasting, I think, and I've talked about this myself numerous times, I think a common misconception for new podcasters is that they think they have to sound like they belong on the mic. And I think it's really important to point out that it's not about trying to perform when you're on a podcast. And I come from my background with broadcasting. The first time I ever hit a mic, I was on my College Station. The format was alt rock. So I thought, OK, I got to come on to this thing. I got to sound like I'm, I'm a rock jock, Wolfman Jack. I'm not Wolfman Jack kind of, you know, approach to this. And even though the sound I created with my voice may have seemed like it was within that stereotypical, oh, this is the kind of sound I should have kind of thing, I eventually realized it was not a natural sound and it was actually painful to do and sustained for a while.

32:53 I eventually realized I have to figure out what my natural case is. My natural pace is how do I talk amongst my friends, How do I in the situations where there's no demand for over exertion, over projection, you know, weird pacing patterns. And once you figure that out and then you approach the vocal aspect of podcasting, you really find a sound that gives you a lot of bang for your buck. And that's where you should approach it from. And eventually you end up sounding like Mark, who has this radio quality voice anyway. And it's not an unnatural technique, it's a natural technique that is polished over time. Thank you BC, and thank you for the compliment. I know I've said this before, but I am one of those people that don't believe I have a radio voice. And people tell me that like, oh, Mark, yeah, you're natural for this.

33:48 You have such a radio voice and I always cock my head and again, that is because I used to work with radio people and AI used to judge myself against their voices and B, they weren't the kindest people and they used to tease me that I didn't have a good radio voice. So that just made me believe that after overtime. But I appreciate hearing that it it helps reinforce and and give me a little more confidence when I get on the mic. So thank you for saying that and excellent points as well BC. Mark, I just wanted to interrupt something because Dave in the clubhouse chat made a brilliant observation. As he, as he often does. Yeah, and I'm looking at you as you talk. And Dave said you can tell when someone is comfortable on the mic. Be sure to smile when you record. You can hear a smile. 100% Dave, 100% correct. I'm looking at Mark right now.

34:37 When Mark is talking, he's smiling. I'm looking at Junaid, he's smiling. BC is smiling. Dr. is smiling. It's an absolute truth if you take nothing away from today besides all the beautiful things when you're recording. Smile. You know, that is going, it's going to come through. I used to work for a credit union. I was the executive vice president of credit union. I told all my tellers, smile when you're calling somebody on the phone. Smile through the phone. Dave, great comment. Thank you so much for adding that to the show today. That is a brilliant observation. Yep, absolutely. What? I'm not a smiler like you. Were saying that you were among other radio producers, radio people, people that told you that you're not good enough and that that's something that we need to take away from somebody mentioned earlier about Toastmasters.

35:30 You know going to these events, going to communities that are actually encouraging you, they're uplifting you, they're supporting you so that even if you feel down, guess what you have other cheerleaders cheering you up. And that's why I love coming to podcasting morning time, because I know these people are looking out for me. And so find a community that works for you. Find a community that uplifts you because you're not going to go too far if, if people are always, you know, breaking you down, if people are always out to get you. And that's the, that's the problem with the entire world. The Hollywood's like, oh, they ought to get you. They ought to get you. But the fact of the matter is it's only the top people that are doing that and not, not from the perspective of the executives because they're looking at the bottom line. But if you look at the actual core community, they're there to support you.

36:23 Thanks. Yeah. Thank you, Janae. I appreciate that comment. And listen, Alex, if you don't mind, I'm going to keep things moving here because we're running out of time and I want to give people an opportunity to share their wins from the week. But first, before we get to that, I wanted to share just briefly a little bit about how I edited that clip that I played at the top of the show. Again, it was over 3 minutes long. And when I sat down this morning, I was just, I was a little bit nervous because I didn't know that I'd even have enough time. Hold on, I don't know if I'd have enough time to really edit it down to something digestible for all of you to hear. I did not want to play 3 minutes of a clip just to get to that one point about the the Rewatch podcast.

37:08 I decided to roll the dice with Chat GPTI went into it. I didn't have any special custom GPT built or anything like that. I just went into the the regular ChatGPT, which of course has a a good understanding of me and all the different things that I do, and I said to it the following prompt. Act as an expert content editor. You're a master at taking long clips of content and cutting them down considerably while still capturing the heart of the content. That was the first thing that I told it. I didn't give it anything else and it acknowledged it. It even gave me a little bit of a breakdown of how it was going to do that. Then I fed it the transcript along with a more specific prompt.

37:55 I told it what the transcript was, who it came from. And then I said the part I'm most interested in sharing on my podcast today is when he talks about the Rewatch podcast and how he believes those years of pod, the years of that podcast contributed to the success of the Scrubs reboot series. And then I said I wanted it to edit down the version. The edited down version needs to capture a glimpse of the success of the reboot series and then jump to the part about the rewatch podcast and why it contributed to the reboot series success. And the final part of the prompt I said was I want the whole clip to be 30 to 45 seconds.

38:37 And it brilliantly, you know, with the transcript, cut it down to exactly what you just heard. Some of the time codes were slightly off. And that's only because the transcript wasn't provided, you know, word for word, time code for time code, right? So it had to kind of take a couple of liberties, a couple of guesses, but it literally took me 3 minutes to go through that three minute clip, find those points that it directed me to do, cut out all the rest and play what I played for you all this morning. It was a piece of cake. So I wanted to share this with you because I believe that there is some value here for you as a podcaster. You could do this theoretically with your podcast episodes. You could put in the raw recording transcript. I might do it in sections just to try to keep it as accurate as possible.

39:33 But you could say, you know, maybe you did a podcast interview where your guest was really long winded. Maybe you share one of those answers that were those long winded answers with ChatGPT, you give it a similar prompt like that and have it suggest what to cut out. So I will also in the show notes, I will share that ChatGPT conversation that I had so that you can go and just actually see it step by step because there were a couple of little things I had it I had tweaked it to do. So I want you to be able to see the full picture, and it's much easier for you to see it than for me to share it. Sid, you have a question.

40:14 Go ahead. One of my favorite ways to utilize ChatGPT is brainstorming or having it act as a consultant or a coach. And I did that last week and I. Was concerned about the messaging on something and so I uploaded some documents and. Said act as a business as a sales and marketing coach and critique the attached. These are my goals. This is what? I'm trying to do and it was very enjoyable hour because I felt like I'd been put in my place because he highlighted all the things that I had done wrong and you know, where the messaging was really soft and how it wasn't pointing to the problem that existed and you know, blah, blah, blah.

40:56 And I'm like, you're so on point. And sometimes I think we just get so caught up in what we're doing that we overlook some of the things we already know, but we just overlooked them because we're so caught up in doing it. And I think utilizing ChatGPT for something like that to help you improve is a great use of your time with that tool. Thank you, Sid, for sharing that. I think the lesson that I think we both have shared here is that, again, AI isn't going to just do it for you. If you just say, here's the transcript, I want you to make it better, right? You're not going to get the kind of answers that that we got because we were very specific with our prompt and we understand what's involved in something like a content edit. Like in my case, in other words, I was very specific in that second prompt.

41:47 I told it what I was looking for, what what I the essence of what I wanted that clip to share with my audience. So you do have to understand a little bit about podcasting in order to accomplish something like this. And hopefully with me sharing it with you, that'll get you thinking about how you may want to prompt your AI tool. I hope that makes sense. And BC, did you want to chime in? I am wondering about, you know, hallucination. So if we've, I don't know if we've talked about hallucination with ChatGPT on here before. For those who don't know what it is, yeah. It's when ChatGPT gets a prompt, it riddles off an answer. It sounds very learned in the topic, but when you actually compare it, it's like 50% can be made-up by ChatGPT.

42:32 I'm curious because I like to give it personas a lot of times too, just to make sure that conversations are within certain bumpers. Do we know whether or not doing that actually helps to hinder the potential for hallucination within ChatGPT? Or is it just it might still happen just within this parameter of the persona? Please forgive me, not sure I'm following the question but that's just me. He's saying if you give ChatGPT A framework, if you give chat GPTA persona, does that cut down on the hallucinations And and BCI think that's a brilliant question because AI hallucination is a real thing.

43:12 And BC I'm glad you brought that up. I don't want to step on your toes BC but that's where you were going, right? Yeah, exactly. But that's exactly it. I understood what BC was asking there and I think it's it's impossible to completely tamp down on what hallucination stuff is. I think even today the word hallucination is a legacy term. I'm not sure it's categorized the right way these days in terms of how it appears. But to Mark's point, practice testing the frameworks, how you build the prompts, all of that is supervision. And that supervision is important to, on reflection, check the work that it does.

43:52 Because I've had an instance where I've given a Part 1, actually Part 1 of a transcript of an episode that I was doing for a client and did all the stuff, blah, blah, blah, blah, came to do Part 2. And I always do it in a project with a custom instruction that separates it from the other chats in that project to ensure that it stays in its own line. And I gave it the second part transcript and it did it's own thing, came up with a summary and I read it and I thought, hang on, that's, that's not right. What it had done is bled some of the inferences it was making for where the rest of the conversation would go based on Part 1 and was using its own predictions as opposed to referencing the transcript. But while you might call that a hallucination and say, oh, that's a problem, it's it's a reason not to use it. Instead, you have to look at it and treat the LLM as a dumb intern and go, buddy, is this what I've asked you to do? And it sheepishly looks at its feet and goes, no. And so you say, let's have a look at the transcript again, and then you tell me if what you got there was right. And inevitably it goes, oops, I'm sorry, I'm so sorry. I got that wrong.

45:05 You're absolutely right. Let me try that again. And while reflecting on that process, it's, you might go, well, ChatGPT is horrible. Gemini's never been that dumb for me. Invariably they'll all have some sort of aspect like that. But being on top of it, getting the practice in and knowing how to do it, you can't. Like any problem in technology, most of the problems come about when you try to control it with the technology. If the humans are involved, the human supervision aspect is where you'll do the QA to make sure it's what you want. And that's also at the heart of all of the AI generated content we see everywhere. That gives us the ick. That'd be a subject for another. Thing, Yeah. Thank you, Matt. Yeah.

45:46 And look there sometimes though, I will say like if you do get a response or if you're working with ChatGPT as an example and it's not giving you the kind of output that you're looking for. Yeah, jump to a different tool, go to a Gemini just to see if it's going to give you something more accurate, something better, something that you are looking for. I do that sometimes when I make our cover art for the podcasting morning chat. Sometimes ChatGPT hits the nail on the head. Other times I am fighting it to to spit out the image that I wanted to create. So I just basically recreate a prompt and go into somewhere like Gemini and see if it can do it better.

46:30 And often times it does. It's just, I don't know why it's just maybe it's not hallucinating in that moment where ChatGPT is. But yeah, there's nothing wrong with trying other tools. I know that's a little bit different than where Matt was going with it, but I did it just sparked that thought. So I just wanted to get it out there. OK, listen, I want to make sure we get to wins from the week. And what I'm going to do is those of you who are on Clubhouse, go ahead and put a one in the chat if you would like to share your wins from this past week. Those of you who are listening in the audience on Clubhouse, feel free to come up on stage if you want to share any wins from your week.

47:14 And of course, if you are on the live stream here on Riverside, raise your hand if you'd like to share 'cause that hand stays there until I call on you. We're going to start with Sid this morning. Go ahead, Sid. My win for the week is clarity and just clarity on a few things that doodling around in my brain and getting clarity on what I want to do with a couple of things in my business. And so clarity is a really good thing. So I'm grateful and that's my win for this week is clarity on some things that I want to move forward with. I love that. Congratulations, Sid. I think clarity often feels very good when we find it. Thank you for sharing that. I'm going to go to Ashley next.

47:55 Go ahead, Ashley. I've got two big ones this week, so this past Monday was the very first meet up for our Songs and Poems from a Hat meet up group. It's a accountability and challenge group. It went really well. In case anybody's wondering, the word we drew from the hat was flower. So people who are participating have a month to create something with the theme of flower. And my other win is I had a fundraiser this week for my podcast to cover travel expenses for me to go do media coverage at Swanee Spring Reunion in March. My goal was to raise $800 and I'm sitting at 7:55, so I'm going to hit the goal today. Awesome.

48:40 Congratulations, Ashley. Very cool. And I'm going to keep it moving for the sake of time and go to Matt. Matt, give us a quick win, would you? I was very happy this week after having a client that I took on board I think in October last year, to finally get through the drafts of their initial set of interviews, which were recorded before I got to them. But they were excellent interviews. It was just a hard slog for the last few months to get through them. So I feel pretty happy about doing it. And that's for a university for as an internal podcast. So hopefully I can report back on on how successful that is. Oh, that's really cool. Yeah, Please do. I'd love to hear that. Yeah. I like that. It feels it's nice to have something a little different.

49:21 Not the typical podcast as as a podcast producer, I can relate to that. So that that's exciting. Congratulations, Matt. And let's go to Janae Jannade. Share a win. Excellent win number one. I've finalized the beta launch for the app that I've been working on. I've gotten a ton of feedback from. I think I've talked to at least 35 different podcasters and everybody has been blown away by what it's able to do me. And thanks, Mark. And what's amazing is that every single day I have new ideas that are going in the backlog. So I've also built the community where you can see all the features that are deployed, all the features that are waiting for voting. So I want to make it so it's community driven.

50:04 I want to hear what people want in it. So then I can put it in. And not only does it help me, but also helps everybody that's going to be using the app as well. So that's my big win. Thank you. Hey, Janae, maybe you want to add a, some sort of, I know I'm giving you more work. Maybe you want to add some sort of public forum for your community that you're building through this app so that people can share within the system. They could share with one another. Oh, we'd love to see this idea, Janae. And this is working really well for us. That would be something kind of cool. I think I would enjoy if I. Mark. You what? What's that? I've already built it. Right on very. Community. Yeah, community.podglue.com It's a community.

50:45 Anybody can log in. There's a like a physical text based forum you can put in ideas. So again, I was, I'm thinking of all the things that I've seen work in the past decades or so of, you know, software development. So thank you. Thank you for suggesting that because it means I'm on the same wavelength as you are. Yeah, awesome. Congratulations there. Matthew asks what is the podcasting operating system in a sentence. And I think it's basically, if I'll share my explanation from what I saw, it's, it's a system that keeps every step of the podcasting process organized for you. And not just organized, but it's also assisting you along the way with each and every step by assisting.

51:30 For example, I'll throw out one that I know that Janae's system does is when it comes time to designing your thumbnails for YouTube for your podcast, it'll help you do that based on that episode specifically. But that's just one small example of Janae's tool that I really encourage people to check out. So more to come on that. I know it's launching officially very soon, and I'm going to keep going. And let's go to Ralph. Ralph, please share a win. So I've got to win and this is one of those wins that you just want to grab and get a hold of and just love on. So I went to church on Sunday, as everybody knows, I do a religious Christian of daily finance podcast called financially confident Christian.

52:14 And I sat down in church and this fellow comes in. We always shake hands of people are coming in. And he looks at me and he goes, you're the YouTube, right? And I was like, yeah, as a matter of fact, that he goes, I love your show. He says, I don't miss it on a single day. And I looked at him like, are you serious, dude? Like, you really was like, somebody's actually listening to this. And he said, no, you don't understand it. She said, I'm a real estate agent. And he said, I tell every single person I know how you have married faith and finance together. He says, if you don't do it for any other reason, Ralph, you're touching one person a day. Keep up the good work and I'm going to tell you right now, he could have written me a check for $1,000,000. It wouldn't have been as valuable as that comment. So that's one of those things that as a content creator, man, you hear that and you just you just go amazing second win. My content creators accountant YouTube page has now hit 110,000 subscribers.

53:04 That is after about 90 days. So I want to appreciate, I want to thank everybody who's been over there and checked it out. It is definitely a video first podcast, but thank you so much, Mark. Yeah, Thank you. Congratulations to you as well. I'm going to share my win after Dr. shares her. Go ahead, Dr. For the past five years, I'm going to talk fast. For the past five years, I have been involved in a private Facebook group of podcast producers, podcast managers, and the. It's based on a course on a podcast production course that we have all invested in. And the course creator decided to kind of sundown the course, she left the Facebook group open. But one of the things that we really, really miss is the weekly strategy calls that we would do. And Mark and I have decided to carry the torch for that. We have created another Facebook group and a lot of a lot of the people from the the old one have transferred over to the new one. We have a strategy call scheduled for next week and I am so pleased to get this going.

54:19 And all I'm hearing from all my all my producer friends from that old group is, oh, thank God, we really, really want this. So I am so pleased. That's awesome. Congratulations. And I'm proud to be a part of that win. Dr. I'm looking forward to meeting all these people and I'm also looking forward to connecting with them because I think that who knows, I think at least some of them might be able to bring a lot of value to this very show as well. So we will see how all of that goes. Congratulations to you. I had a few wins, but I'm just going to share, I think for now, one of them this week, I upgraded the podcasting morning chat website at pod page to their elite package. And that's a big move for me because it gives us stronger SEO, deeper analytics, better automation, and tools that'll help rank US on Google and serve our community at a much higher level.

55:16 I'm always telling you to treat your podcast like a business. And Ralph has has been talking a lot about that as well lately. And this is me doing exactly that. So if you want to check it out for yourself or support the show, I'll give you my affiliate link in the show notes. So check that out. That would be a great way to support this show as if you decide to get your own Pod page, you don't have to get the elite status. Although from what I'm already seeing, I think it is super value valuable. I think it's a great investment to make. So go ahead and check that out. Pod page is a wonderful service making website.

55:57 I don't want to say development, but making your podcast website easy to manage and maintain, so definitely check that out as well. Oh, and I'll share one other quick win because we've talked about, I think it was yesterday where BC was sharing that he got his personal invite from Alex Sanfilippo to the podcasting Made Simple live. I got mine this morning in my inbox. So there's another win as well because I was feeling a little left out yesterday. But in all seriousness, I appreciate Alex Sanfilippo and Pod Match and that free ticket. OK, gang, we are back Monday, 7:00 AM Eastern. As we shared at the top of the show, Jonathan will be hosting or leading the conversation for our next obsession worthy podcast breakdown. And of course, we'll have a full week of shows for you covering all sorts of things, news and comment and all anything going on around the world of podcasting, we will share that and discuss it with you.

56:59 So until Monday, make it a great weekend everybody, take care.