#50 Common struggles in close relationships and how to overcome them

Gentlemen, welcome to the be the man podcast.

I'm your host, Greg Denning.

I got an awesome question.

From a listener, who is overseas and was struggling with some relationships.

It was great question and great insights.

And as I was responding to him and communicating, I thought, you know, what this is, this is valuable for all of us.

Because as men in life, we are going to have lots of relationships least, I hope so.

It is a low.

Only miserable life if you don't have relationships.

And if we learn how to do relationships and we are in relationships with high-caliber people, then our life's get richer and better.

And happier and I think it's critically important to point out that being in relationships, is a skill set.

It's not luck.

It's not, you know, have or have not, it's not chance, it's skill.

And the great news is that anybody can learn this stuff and, and it's just can be practiced and changed.

And if you have just outright sucked a relationships, you can change.

You can Better.

And maybe you've always struggling relationship.

She's never had a skill set and maybe you didn't even know, it was a skill set, it's not something you're stuck with, it's not something you're stuck in and even if you've been that way for a long time you can create a transformation I've done it.

Create Transformations myself and felt brand new skills and totally transform my relationships and I hope people do this literally, go to help men do this every day and they make massive changes in themselves and in their relationships skill, set and it Changes everything.

Again, apply this to any other aspect, right?

If you're if you're trying to get fantastic at your favorite sport or in your craft for work, whatever it is.

You do whether you're a soldier or Like a coder.

I'm trying to come up with something on top of me or an attorney or surgeon, right?

Whatever it is.

You do will massively leveling up your skills in your craft or your sport or your hobby, make a difference?

Well absolutely, of course it will it changes the whole dynamic.

It changes your experience in the pleasure and reward the Fulfillment and meaning you get from it.

But it also drastically changes your outcomes.

It is absolutely true with relationships as well, that is great news.

And so we can begin today immediately to make those changes.

Now, some of you and your heads right now, your survival brain is going.

Know you.

I've always been like this.

It's been like this for too long.

There's no hope.

I can't do this, and I'm here to say, absolutely yes.

Yes, you can.

Yes, you can.

I don't care how long you been stuck in it.

I don't care how many mistakes you've made, I don't care how much trauma you experienced in the past and and why you feel like you're stuck in the stories you're telling yourself.

And I'm not trying to be cold hearted here and ignorant.

I realize there's a lot of tough things, we go through them.

And I'm going to talk about that in a minute, but in spite of all of that, we still have a choice and we can still make choices on a daily basis to develop new skills and to improve our relationships.

It's huge.

So man, I'm excited, I'm excited to talk about this.

And I want to, I want to share that first and foremost, we have to absolutely must take ownership.

Europe for the part, we play in our relationships for an again, you have to be responsible for the energy, you bring to it.

Whether that's a negative energy or a positive energy, whether it's happy or sad, whether it's elated or depressed, you have to be responsible for the energy.

You bring in fact for everything you bring and and for what you receive as well, because you're not a victim, you're not a little baby and some of us we want to retreat into being a little boy, or being a little baby but that doesn't serve anyone.

It doesn't help us get what we want and it doesn't make the relationship.

Any better.

It makes it worse.

There's no relationship that gets better because of whining or retreating or numbing or avoiding it just doesn't work.

So take ownership for that for whatever you're bringing take responsibility for it.

And that feels heavy.

But when you bear up under that load and you take back the power, it actually it's actually empowering because you realize, oh, there's something I do about this.

I'm not a victim here.

I'm not helpless.

And some of us have some learned helplessness that we've picked up.

And we feel like we're just stuck and there's nothing we can do.

And then that's that's got to be the worst feeling.

Ever to feel hopeless in in Dante's Inferno, that great classic book.

He's writing in this description of this imaginary trip to hell and over the archway going into hell.

It says abandon all hope ye who enter here.

And that's that's a definition of hell, right?

It's just being hopeless feeling.

There's there's no way out.

There's no chance for change or transformation, there's no hope.

And I want to adamantly declare today.

Gentlemen, that there is hope, and you start making changes and your relationship starts.

Changing fact, I want to share this, I shared this with my wife, in our, in our podcast, in our trainings, if you see a relationships like as a sum it's you plus the other person Equals the relationship and just see it as a number.

So if I'm a 5 and my wife is a 5, then, our relationship is a 10.

And if you know, if I'm a one in my wife's, have five than our relationship is a six.

But what's super cool about that is, if just, one person begins to rise and add more to themselves, then it automatically adds to the relationship.

So if you begin to rise and you go from a five to an six to seven to eight and even if the other person, whether it's your wife or one of your children or a neighbor collie or whatever, If they stay where they are, even if they drop a little, you can keep lifting and Rising.

And so, if my wife says that a 5 and I become an eight, our relationships with 13, she she didn't have to change for our relationship, to get better to become more, but what happens is you become the tide and when the tide comes in at Harbor, it lifts all the boats.

And so you start, there's Rising effect of changing getting a skill sets and it has this positive effect.

Some things happen immediately, like you get, you could see positive improvements.

Your relationships immediately today right now, you listen to this, you apply it, boom.

Start seeing some changes other things start happening over time, but they will happen and it'll stir things up and it may make some things more uncomfortable.

You start changing in there like hey what's going on here?

And it some people start to feel threatened because now they're, they're unsure like you used to react a certain way.

Now you're not reacting more, I won the world, they used to used to come home and they were afraid of how you'd come home which gentleman who?

Man that one gets me fired up.

Do not be like that.

If your wife or your children have to walk on pins and needles or or they're a little bit anxious or afraid or uncertain, oh no, here dad's coming home and they have no idea.

Like is he going to be angry today?

Is he going to scream and yell is going to be?

The Press is going to take it out on me.

Is you coming home looking for trouble?

He's going to just come home and criticize me and he's gonna yell again, explode.

That is absolutely unacceptable and that needs to stop it immediately.

Your wife and children should be excited.

Anticipating your rival.

They should be looking forward to you coming back and if they're scared or are worried about it or one of they don't want you to come back right there like no here comes.

Dad I'll crap dad's home K1 on your best behavior.

Like oh everyone watch out like if they're in any way shape, or form like dreading you coming home, you've created that and you got to change.

Massively change it, right?

Be responsible for that and be the tight and lift all those relationships.

So, yeah, some things will get stirred up as you rise, right?

And it starts lifting everything and it lifts some of the issues that need to be addressed which is a good thing, right?

If you start rising and rising and it brings issues to the surface, fantastic.

Because once you can talk about it, once it comes like once you can express it, then you can talk about it.

And once you can talk about it, then you can resolve it and then you just start resolving them one after another and it actually snowballs in your favor or you just resolve one issue after another.

It's, it's amazing.

I get to do this every day with clients and with the, be the man tribe and the coaching group.

And we're just working through dynamics of our relationships or skills and just become your best self.

So the question specifically was How can I work through the preoccupied attachment style?

So I will Define this for all of us.

I went and looked up the definition so a preocupe.

And and again man we live in a time and place where they have a definition for everything, all right, they want to label everything and in some cases it's helpful to be able to Label, or name something.

Sometimes it's a bit too much and we're taking on labels as part of our identity and we start, you know, embracing that and the more we Embrace that and identity, the more we behave that way, because identity and behavior are directly linked.

Like if you say I'm a runner, I'm running, I'm running, I'm running.

What do you do?

You run, man?

And if it's cold or windy or snowing or raining like so what your Runner you run, you get out and you run because you identifies a runner and the more you take on identities and labels, The more you live them like it becomes your reality, let that sink in whatever you identify as your identity and your behavior directly linked and it becomes your reality, so be extremely extremely careful about what you say about yourself.

Even down to things like, oh, I'm bad with names, I am bad with names.

That's an identity.

And you'll, you will play that out because you believe it's a fixed mindset.

You digging on his identity and you'll just keep doing it.

And so, you can make those Transformations.

So, even with this and other attachment Styles, we can learn from them.

We can think through them, we can notice traits or characteristics, or symptoms, or commonalities, or common denominators, and we can just notice them And we can learn from them, so we can improve our Behavior but we don't have to read and go, um, and that's me.

Great, I have that like, it's some disease you have and there's no cure.

Don't do that.

Don't do that to yourself.

Don't do to your fit, your wife or your children.

Don't do the other people either.

So yeah that's interesting.

I've been I've been behaving a certain way.

I'm going to change that and you can change it.

So you don't have to say oh I have that I have that illness or disease whatever.

Like okay I've been behaving that way and I can change This and I that is such a powerful framework and it helped me totally transform my life, which I mean, I'll tell a little bit about this in this conversation, little bit about my life story.

But when I when I just release that identity when I, when I saw it as a behavior, that something I was just doing Then I could change.

I was actually working with a client recently, who kind of It's a speech thing.

And so his his parents and others told them like, oh, you have a speech impediment and I was working with him and watching, I'm like, no, you don't.

You don't have a speech impediment.

You just keep your mouth really closed so that you pronounce some of your words like a baby.

You don't have a speech impediment, you're just closing your mouth if you bring your lips in close and pronounce those words, it's baby talk.

And when you when you walk through again, this is relevant to this today's conversation.

You'll see in a minute here, if you've been treated that way as a little baby.

And if you've been coddled and you've been told that your baby you've been, you know, they've treated you like a victim and you believe yourself to victim and you just take on this identity victim identity and like, oh, I have this and all, there's nothing I can do about it.

Then you carry on with that behavior.

And that was as pointed out like no, no, wait, no, you do have a speech impediment like you, let me just watch your mouth like, yeah, when you say that word, your lips are really tight and close together and that's causing a sound.

So, it's literally just you need to open up your mouth and I said, let's practice it.

I said, open your mouth really wide and say those words and he was able to pronounce them perfectly like there you go, right?

It's not a speech impediment.

It's just a habit.

You've you say those words with your mouth closed?

And again, it's there was a lot there, right?

There's a lot of issues.

Shoes from childhood and some trauma.

And some other things that have really kept him close in insecure and Afraid and it played out and how he speaks.

And as I worked with him right now, this is open your mouth really wide, you just the way you shape your lips and use your tongue is what's causing the sound.

It's not the, you have a speech impediment and you can't, it's not that you cannot say it correctly.

You can, you just have to open your mouth and you're gonna have to train yourself to do it differently and he was so resistant to it.

He just he To keep the label and he wanted to keep the identity because gosh, I would be that would be work to learn how to speak differently again, and he kind of held on to it, but, but don't do that gentleman.

Okay, so preoccupied attachment style, this is what it says online and infant develops, a preoccupied attachment style when they receive inconsistent care from their primary caregiver.

The child becomes unsure about the caretakers availability and whether they will be there for them when needed super important.

And very, very common and you can see this, right?

And it's super sad because kids kids need care.

They need touch.

They need to have that sense of certainty and security every single human being has a deep need for certainty and for security and safety.

And so right from the get-go and when parents aren't there because of their own issues or whatever else, I mean, who knows.

And again, as I talk to men all over the world, all the time.

Some had Parents Wonder, one, or both parents were alcoholics or drug addicts.

Some were abusive, some died, and like, any kind of negligence, or whatever is just, it's just a wreck, right?

And I and I experienced some of this is my, my dad left, my mom is trying to raise it.

These kids by herself and to get a career and we were just broke on food stamps, and Welfare and then stepdads came and went, and you never knew what they were going to do or how long they're going to stay if at all.

And so they just came and went and came away with it.

And so I guess after reading this recently, I was like, oh man, I went through that.

I experienced that too.

I was inconsistent, right?

And like I love my mom and she did a great job.

She just was Buster toes.

It was a rough.

Go right.

Right?

But it was, it was there.

Then there's another thing here.

I'm just going to share some of the stuff for some insight and context.

Question is what are the characteristics of preoccupied attachment style?

Characteristics of an ancient and anxious preoccupied attachment include poor self worth.

Right?

Because think about that one thing through that like if if you're in a relationship and you don't know how the other person behave, you often blame yourself and you take it on yourself.

I got, must be me when most often it's the other person.

In fact, this is important here is not just with your parents.

This could be in like dating relationships, marriage relationships, or you could be, you could be this person to your children, like you're inconsistent.

They don't know what to expect.

They don't know if you're going to be angry or happy, you know, if you're going to be proud and, you know, if you're in, Stop the game.

We're just bail out again, and, or support them or criticize them.

That, like, some of you are doing this and it's super, super important.

We get it, we get control this stuff so they have poor self worth a constant need for.

Reassurance, right?

They are super needy because again, they lack certainty and so then they often lack confidence and self-worth and there because of the need for certainty and security and safety.

They're just like needy.

Like I need reassurance.

Assurance they have excessive dependence on relationships right but they don't feel the sense of Independence like I need somebody and and that neediness in this interesting.

It's the neediness the poor self worth.

The need constant need for reassurance, It actually drives people away.

So somebody good comes into your life or is in your life, but but that neediness because you're not whole you haven't resolved some things on your own even been healed then the neediest actually drives the person away from you.

So even if Still married.

It can drive your marriage way and it's not near what it could be.

Hey, you drive your kids away, and your family members, friends.

And in relationships, he could drive your wife complete ways to get a divorce.

Or when you're dating and drives people away.

You have to, you have to be cognizant aware of the stuff.

Another thing is fear of rejection and abandonment.

Those are huge.

Obviously because you didn't know what was going to happen.

And you've been in situations again fellas, like this kind of stuff, it happens, so much.

Because other people are just doing their stuff and they have their own issues, your parents have their own issues and they probably weren't very skilled at being parents and didn't know, they didn't have the training.

They were just trying to figure out how to be parents.

Or if you're another relationships and you felt rejected a lottery, you felt abandoned, there's we're going to talk through this here but all those things You have to, like notice them in yourself and start working with on yourself, otherwise, they just keep causing problems because no matter who you're in a relationship with or where you go or what you do if you have a wound and it doesn't get healed.

It just keeps bleeding.

It'll constantly believe no matter where you go no matter who you're with that wound to keep bleeding until you heal it.

Another thing they have another characteristic is problem trusting their Partners make sense, right?

And hypersensitivity to the moods of others, they're very sensitive because man you don't know what they're going to do and that's what's one way here when we're going to see you like super sensitive and reactive right, this all just makes it makes a ton of sense and I hope that's hitting home.

So the big issue, this is true for all of us and I hope you're if you're still listening, thank you, kudos to you for still listening.

It's this this podcast isn't a about that specific thing.

It's about all of them.

And the first step is just pausing and noticing your own issues.

And and I'm not, the tendency is to blame it on other people.

Well, well, if my wife would do this then be different or well, if my kids weren't like that or they don't do, this may be different with my dad, or my mom or my siblings.

My boss, we play all that stuff out, and it doesn't serve us.

It doesn't help us.

It does not add value to.

Your life is not serving you.

So, the best thing is to say, well what am I doing?

How am I reacting?

How am I feeling?

What's the root cause here?

And this takes a lot of maturity and a lot of humility and a major ability to look in the mirror, like, hold up this, the proverbial mirror and look, look at yourself and see yourself and even ask other people to give you an assessment to give you feedback and if you see some common denominators, you ask people you trust or get a coach, right?

That's super helpful.

So I get to do it, my coaching clients like, okay, let this is something I'm observing and it points out and you You can hold the mirror up for them to look.

There's something here that you're doing that.

You can change and if across the board people.

Yeah.

You often do this.

You often do this.

And you use here from multiple people.

Here's your sign, brother, you've got something to work on.

You got some things to fix.

And so it's this huge important awareness and I had to do this, I had to go through this whole journey.

So I grew up it.

Like I told you in some rough situations circumstances.

I was super lonely.

Super insecure.

Super shy.

I was desperate.

I was depressed.

I was fearful.

Could not talk to girls.

I couldn't look anyone in the eye.

I just could not, I was so insecure.

I couldn't look people in the eye.

The loneliness was the worst of anything I've experienced.

I, hated being alone, all of its bitter and sometimes you can be completely alone in a crowded room, but I just felt so lonely.

And then I felt, of course, unworthy.

And then, you know, what, I ever have friends, would I ever get married man's?

It was just on and on.

And then when I started making friends, Building relationships.

I had to notice my own crap like that, it's sit down and write down.

This is important.

You have to write down, articulate your issues.

If you find yourself, being fearful, or anxious or worried, or reactive write it down, go through them one by one.

Why do you keep doing that?

And do not gentlemen, do not just do that first level surface layer, thinking of like, well, I'm just getting mad because my kids keep doing annoying things, they don't listen to me.

No, that's not it.

Well, it's just because my wife.

No, that's not it.

What are you doing?

What what's the reaction?

And then get down to the root cause what is it?

And you got to do some deep digging and I hope you spend some time crying about it because the tears will come and it's part of the healing process and some pain will come up and say this is going to be uncomfortable sometimes, but it's also going to be phenomenal because you're going to do some healing and some recovery.

So you start just noticing it and I want to point this out.

Here it is so so so important.

Portent at some point gentlemen, it doesn't matter what happened to us in our past, it doesn't matter.

What happened to me.

It doesn't matter what happened to you, and I know that sounds harsh, but there's power in that, when you finally draw a line and say, you know what, what's done is done, it's in the past, honestly, it doesn't matter.

Because From This Moment forward, I will determine who I become.

I am responsible for my life, my life will be Exactly what I make of it, I will be what I make of myself.

It doesn't matter what happened to me.

It doesn't matter what my dad did, doesn't matter what my mom did.

It doesn't matter what happened in the economy.

It doesn't matter what trauma experienced or or pain or successes, or failures or Triumph or tragedy.

None of that matters at a certain point.

It just stops And at that point, you can look back and say, you know what, there's I cannot change the past but 100% I can change the way I view the past and I can change what I learn from the past and I can change what I take with me from the past.

And if we look back and use our trauma as an excuse, It hurts us.

And why would we do that?

When we can look back and use our trauma as a reason.

Why would we look back and keep the pain when we could look back and get a hold of the power?

We can access the power because where there's pain?

There's power And I know, I know that sounds harsh.

I know it sounds simplistic, but I did it.

I've helped others do it and it's so powerful when you just stop and say, okay, when I was a kid that was it was a kid.

I wasn't there was nothing to do about it but now that I'm a man, I'm going to stop being a little boy.

I'm going to stop being a baby and I'm going to start acting like a man.

And men take responsibility for their actions.

Men are aware of what they're doing and they find out why they're doing it and they address the cause not the effect, they're not into symptom management.

They're fixing the problem.

So it goes away for good.

So whatever it is man, if it's over eating, if it's being reactive is being angry.

If it's being Solon, if it's numbing or buffering or avoiding just constantly checking out.

If you're super sensitive or yours, like, always want to be alone or you're always super needing your relationships or any of that, that wonderful list.

We went through.

Like, if you're, if you have poor self worth or constant need of reassurance, or the dependence on relationships, if you're afraid of being rejected or abandoned, if you have problem, trusting people, if your hypersensitive the moods of others like whatever it is, You have to be aware of what you're doing.

Find out why, and then stop it.

In fact, you don't even have to find out why to start stopping it.

You can just stop it because you can realize this isn't healthy.

This isn't helping this isn't serving me.

It's not serving the person.

I'm in a relationship with It's not serving me so stop and yes, it is that simple.

It's not that easy sometimes.

Sometimes it is.

Sometimes you just decide you flip a switch.

So I'm done and it, man.

If we were together and I was there with you and like just lovingly but firmly get right in your face and say you could stop this, right?

If somebody held a gun to your head until you never do that again, you would do it.

Save your life, right?

Or if they say, hey look I'll give you ten million dollars this year, if you just don't do it, I've done you do it.

You have leverage.

You can totally do this.

You can do superhuman things.

But man, you have to want it and you have to be aware of it.

So start noticing what are you doing and why?

And then just really carefully think through it and realize on your part of it.

Yes.

The people in a relationship with they have their things too and when you get your stuff healed you can actually be more helpful in helping them heal.

I get to do that too in the coaching at you to do and in the master class and tribe we get to help, help our brothers, become leaders.

And helpers and their families in life.

So they get to help other people.

But you have to heal first So what are you doing?

Think through it.

Are you grumpy?

Are you unpleasant to be around?

Are you overly stressed?

Are you angry?

You reactive, are you.

Critical cynical pessimistic?

And as I'm saying this, you might be tempted to say.

Well yeah.

But but it's because this is like this and it's because like that I've tried and I've tried everything well because I had a tough, right?

You start telling yourself the story again stop with the stories like you literally have to reject the story and just change the story.

Is this is where the humility and the honesty comes in.

He say, you know what?

Yeah.

I am unpleasant to be around, and if you don't know, ask pay attention, starts are being more aware.

And you might realize men.

You're going to you're going to have these aha moments.

Like now I didn't cash, I didn't realize it.

I have a mope around all time.

I would grumpy look on my face and I start you start noticing people actually avoid you.

Because I don't want to be around you.

Or they're they're trepidatious or they're always kind of just watching like they so many people won't make a decision about what they're going to do until they see how you might react, right?

That's ridiculous.

That is ridiculous and you've got to be better than that.

So, whatever it is you're doing.

Get really clear awareness again, start thinking start paying attention to start noticing it.

Notice it day in and day out, and you might notice in search in certain situations or circumstances.

With certain people just start paying attention.

This is the most important thing, it doesn't matter what style, you picked up, it doesn't matter what happened, none of that matters of some point, you draw the line and say, okay, I'm going to be a man, and I'm going to take control, take control of my issues.

I'm going to heal and I'm going to behave as my best.

Self.

I'm going to get totally dialed in.

I'm going to stop using excuses.

I'm going to top, stop telling stories.

And again, I can speak like this because I went through it.

I went through all that stuff and at some point, I said, stop.

Yeah.

Like yeah, I'm sensitive and I'm needy and I'm afraid of being abandoned.

I'm afraid of being alone and it was all because of what happened to my childhood and then I stopped and like, wait a minute.

I'm not a child anymore.

I'm a man and I get to choose what I feel.

I get to become really comfortable in my own skin.

I get to be healthy and realized, no, I am great person, I'm working on myself, I'm getting better and the right I'm going to love people.

And the right person is going to love me and I'm going to work harder on myself than I do on anything else, and I'm going to work on my marriage because if you're not working on your marriage, then by default, you're working on your divorce.

It's going to work on those things and they realize, man, I don't have to be afraid anymore.

I don't have to be needy anymore.

I don't have to be hypersensitive anymore.

I can just be me and be my best self.

I don't have to be grumpy.

I don't have to be stressed.

Stress is a choice.

I don't have to be in Pleasant.

I don't have to get angry, I used to have a crazy temper gentlemen, I was a real time explosive and I realize, wait a minute, this is a choice and this Choice isn't serving me.

Why do I keep choosing to get angry?

It's not helping me and I kept trying to justify it.

Well it's because that person did this all and they did that my bogus.

I'm sitting here playing the victim like a little baby no way.

Doesn't matter what they do.

I get to choose.

And so you become sovereign and again, you're not becoming numb, you actually feel more and have a greater variety of feeling, you're more of a man.

That's incredible.

But you have to take absolute ownership and responsibility for your thoughts and your emotions and your skills.

Your relationships skills specifically.

So study it practice.

It have just total openness and transparency with people in your life and get to a place where you can you can ask them and say Hey I want to be better.

Where are my weaknesses?

What are my Tendencies have?

I made you afraid of me or do you dread me coming home?

Do you look forward to it?

Like what have I done?

What have I done?

What what have Some of my habits would tell me about me.

Like and this you got to be humble.

You got to keep your mouth shut.

No, just fine.

No, do you just listen and take notes and then walk away and if all of your kids are like yeah you are kind of mean your reactive or like yeah, we're actually were afraid to tell you stuff.

Or how your great except we go on vacation, then you're am, not we'd like none of us look forward to going on vacation with you because you're such a grump or they're like yeah.

Dad.

The only time we like use when you're on vacation or if you're home, you're just stressed all the time.

You're busy all the time.

Don't sit there and just find rationalize again, like, oh, what's like this one?

Don't do that crap, if you're afraid of the lack of money, Or whatever it is, man, any issue that's there, that's affecting relationships, look at it, write it down, articulate it ask people who know you, well, psyche, is this accurate and get to the root cause and stop it resolve it and I can totally transform your life like it did.

For me.

He does for my clients is awesome.

If you need some help, join the video, man.

Masterclass tribe.

That's that's why I created the master class.

That's why we have the tribe so we can all go through this together.

We support each other.

You get the Training the tactics, the tools, the system's, the strategies, they countability the inspiration and motivation to give this so dialed in, so you can have that support and strength the reminders and the tools to make those changes.

So you can develop and cultivate those relationships skills and build, truly phenomenal relationships in your life, and life is all about.

Bishop's gentlemen, it is all about relationships. because if you don't have them, you're lonely or if you have them and they're not good.

Then you're miserable.

And the greatest joy and peace and happiness, and meaning, and fulfillment in life is through our relationship.

So work on those skills, practice those skills.

Learn everything you can, if you want to help you want some more help, you have questions.

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You for me, so we can share this in get this out from other men because this is one of the most important skills in Elements of Life.

Love you fellas, thanks for listening.

Be the man.