April 11, 2025
#86 Using Self-Awareness for Better Health and Wellness with Victor Robledo
Want to transform your health and well-being? It all starts with one thing: self awareness.
In this episode, health coach and visionary, Victor Robledo, reveals how understanding yourself deeply is the first step toward achieving lasting health. Whether you're looking to boost your fitness or unlock personal growth, this conversation offers insights that will change the way you approach your life and health.
Victor isn’t just about physical transformation—he’s all about the mindset and emotional clarity that set the foundation for a healthy, purpose-driven life. Join us as we discuss how to overcome personal limitations, the importance of aligning your life vision with your health goals, and how small, mindful changes can lead to massive health shifts.
In this episode, you’ll learn:
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How self-awareness plays a key role in long-term health
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The power of understanding your own limitations and strengths
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Practical steps for building a balanced, healthy life
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How aligning your vision and expectations can supercharge your health journey
If you’re ready to get real about your health and discover the powerful role self-awareness plays, this episode is for you. Tune in to hear Victor Robledo’s actionable strategies for a healthier, more fulfilling life.
Listen now and start your transformation with a deeper understanding of yourself!
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to the Journey
01:14 Victor's Background and Immigrant Roots
02:26 Challenges of Growing Up
03:11 Facing Trauma and Scarcity Mindset
04:04 Transitioning to Full-Time Travel
07:18 Identity and Work-Life Balance
09:22 Enduring Personal Struggles
11:32 Creating a Different Life for Children
14:18 The Power of Travel and Adventure
17:20 Lessons from Children and Adaptability
19:21 Supporting Each Other's Dreams
22:17 Balancing Masculine and Feminine Energies
24:29 Facing Inner Turmoil and Growth
27:49 Overcoming Limiting Beliefs
29:36 Living a Vibrant Life
30:35 Thriving Through Intentional Living
36:16 Mind-Body Connection and Awareness
42:31 Navigating Complacency and Expectations
49:42 Healing and Processing Emotional Wounds
55:48 Maintaining Connection in Marriage
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I'm going to become the man that can provide the the life and lifestyle.
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We we attach so much of our identity as men to our work.
If you're really worried about your health, you need to not only do all these things, but bring
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awareness to it.
Inside this inherent strength is an inherent weakness.
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Having a deeper understanding and connection with that mind body interface.
I'm doing the things, but am I doing them with pension?
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I know you're hurt.
This is why you're not alone.
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You're not different.
I can help.
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You men have to feel.
More anger is a clue we shift to anger because it feels good we've.
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Got to do the inner work to heal.
Safe is not good.
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Safe leaves you just surviving.
Gentlemen, welcome to the Formidable Family Man podcast.
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I'm your host, Greg Denning.
Today, my guest is Victor Robledo.
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We are going to have an awesome conversation and can go all kinds of places because we have so much
in common, husbands, fathers, businessmen, athletes, travelers, There's, there's a lot here.
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So I'm I'm excited for our conversation and, and all these different directions we can go.
But Victor Ryan, you start us all just kind of give us a bit of your background and story and and
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then we'll dive in from there.
Well, my, you know, 10 years ago we've been traveling full time. 10 years ago, Robin and I decided
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to sell off everything and start full full time travel.
And now that is sort of the, the jump forward.
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I was born to, to immigrants.
I'm a first generation American and here in the United States, I'm an absolutely proud American and
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everything I have I can really thank for, for this country.
Sometimes I joke and said the only time I would ever root against is if we're playing soccer.
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I usually from Mexico, but other than that, the three.
I was born and raised just a few probably 10 miles from the border in Chula Vista.
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My parents immigrated across the US border.
My mom was 11, my dad was 5.
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They're actually both from Guadalajara, Mexico.
Their families are, they did not know each other from when they first came across.
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They would work like many immigrant families across the border in the day work and then come back
across back and forth every day as immigrants.
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They taught us the value of the hard work and this is the place pursuing the American dream.
They met at San Diego High School and got married and proceeded to have.
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I'm the oldest of four kids.
We grew up in a kind of rough area of San Diego.
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It didn't seem as rough.
It just it always was an interesting thing as you're, you have this moment, these moments in your
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life where you sort of lose that innocence and you realize, oh, we, we can't play outside, You know,
we have to go inside.
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But because of that and the area sort of changing and demographic sort of changing, my parents work
really, really hard.
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Both of them work full time.
That created some challenges for us in many regards.
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Raised my younger siblings, but they said this to Catholic school.
We, I went Catholic school K through 12, going to an all boys high school as well.
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And that created some sanctuary from some of the challenges that we had, but not all of them, not
all of them.
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So the Catholic school was a bit of refuse, but it still created some challenges for me.
I can point to and why I go to these moments because it's an important part of the back story and
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some of the challenges that I faced that didn't really come out and started started.
We started full time sexual abuse at the hands of a family babysitter, which was brushed under the
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rug.
Violence, violence in and around the area, knives, guns, being chased, gangs, those sort of things.
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Those are the big ones.
Aside from really like a money scarcity issue because they work so hard.
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We were essentially poor in different regards because they needed to put us make sure we're safe in
school.
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It really made things tight and that poverty scarcity is what really created the challenge as we
started our full time travel, believe it or not, did that.
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Are you?
Saying that, that mindset kind of carried with you into your adult life.
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Yeah, and what Robin saw and this is jumping back and forth.
So let me know for some reason that I tended to get on these get so excited about sharing this story
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because I think a lot of people the same me people, my people deal with some of the same sort of
things.
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And that doesn't it's not a race necessarily.
There's plenty of poor people everywhere that don't really realize.
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Sometimes it's to that play when we would get.
Have you ever watched surf wise with Doug Pascowitz?
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Doug Pascowitz was about a family of 88 boys in a camper driving up the coast of California
homeschooling, just traveling.
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I highly recommend it.
And he would go, hey, we're down to our last quarter.
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How are we going to make something happen?
Like, what can we do?
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And the kids would brainstorm and they come up with an idea.
And for me, coming from some scarcity, I was having all this negative talk while we were doing it.
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I felt lots of shame First off, because I hadn't figured out how to make digital money, right?
I had jumped from having a brick and mortar, which I'll get into.
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And it was, it really rattled me because it, that the concept of not being safe and secure, I know
what it's like to things to get tight.
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And for Robin, it was like literally invigorated.
All right, problem solving, let's figure it out.
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And I used to be like, well, I know what this is like.
I, I can kind of tell you how this goes.
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This is frijoles and avros and tortillas for the next three months.
And they get old fast, man, that's.
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They get old fast.
It's.
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Amazing that she had that kind of gross mindset of, of embracing challenge and leaning into it
because predominantly women, their their greatest need is a sense of security and safety and
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certainty, which often comes from finances.
That's that's fascinating.
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And you know, what's fascinating about that is that through all that, I think where she got that is
still in my anchor as a man.
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I will never fail you.
I will never stop by.
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Get emotional with this.
You know, there's a few times we've run out of money trying to do this and I'd be like, all right,
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well, I picked up a job at a moving company, like where I'm working at Lowe's in the lumber
department, lowest of Lowe's.
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I could have pictures of that where we're trying to live this whole time lifestyle like we're out
and I haven't been able to grow because I'm too busy.
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If you're too busy worried about safety and security, it doesn't allow the brain to have that
creative, empowered mindset.
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Exactly, yes.
And man, I can relate to that because in our same, in our same thing, our wonders and we went
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internationally right out of the gates and got down there and we got to Nicaragua and ran out.
But like we had all kinds of things going on, different streams of income.
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Things were just, well, that was the second time because it happened the first time in Costa Rica
when the in 2008 when we lost all of our real estate holdings, all of our stock market stuff,
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everything.
And so I can relate to that and just the the weight and the pain and the frustration and yes, the
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commitment like I will do whatever it takes.
Exactly.
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And that ancient quote of I'll either find a way or I will make one.
Like I had to embrace that and live by that.
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But man, those those tough moments are brutal.
Yeah, it's dark and you know, I had a business for 20 years.
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We owned and operated.
I met Robin in in college and I went we had pictures of her Today is actually an anniversary, not a
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wedding anniversary.
We have a dating anniversary because I remember vividly the date we I said, will you be my
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girlfriend?
I was 19.
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She was 1731 years today and we're doing this awesome and and we have pictures of her high school
prom.
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She was still in high school when I started dating.
I was in my first year at San Diego State and I remember vividly, you know, we opened up, we started
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to really do things in a way where it's like we want a life this way.
We're going to do everything the right way.
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We started, we didn't do any sowing of the oats where we're like traveling the world.
So we saw zero.
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To me, I had seen Disneyland.
I had zero camping experience.
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And here I was living this full time RV.
But when I owned the business in Coronado for 20 years, I, I literally like took such personal
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pride, like here's the bacon, baby, here's the bacon.
And it was tangible.
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I could touch it.
I was in the end, we had, you know, we have five children.
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You know what it's like, it's like, you know, there's rules and, and everything you follow, but
there's always going to be someone a little upset and you're having to like, OK, we're just going to
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be upset for a little bit because I can't get to it this moment.
And because of that, we had to divide and conquer.
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We did that all together, 97 to 2017.
We closed the doors 20 years and it was very difficult for me.
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I hopped on a plane in many ways like you when we first started our full time travel.
We packed up backpacks with five kids and we flew to Norway.
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And it was the first time I hadn't to work like a full time gig.
Got a job since I was 1718.
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And so vacuum happened like who am I without getting up and going to work.
Exactly.
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Yeah, it's even an identity process.
Like, my God, we, we attach so much of our identity as men to our work.
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And if we strip away that like, what's left?
Like, yeah, where's the identity piece?
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I love that.
Keep going.
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And the challenge with it for me was, you know, I love my parents.
They did the best I could to raise me, but I didn't have, I don't never have had a relationship with
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my with my dad.
They're still together with my dad.
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He was working as a pipe welder on the in the shipyard.
It's one of the toughest jobs ever.
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It's feast or famine.
And so I didn't have anyone that I could reach out to and I just suffered in silence.
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And I'm like, I I got to work this out.
I went in within.
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OK.
I can.
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The ethic associated with my my background and exercise and ethic and sports is like, I will persist
to the point that a few times problems like you're familiar with Camino de Santiago.
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Oh yeah, she's like, I have the kids, go figure yourself out.
And I was like, but I had go ahead.
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It was affecting, I just want to point this out like it was clearly affecting your relationships and
the whole dynamic like you weren't, it was affecting the family.
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Yes, a lot.
And, and This is why I think I, I, I want to share it because I initially I knew First off, when we
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came into full timing, I wanted a different life for my children.
And I knew at root level how hard it would be for me.
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But again, coming with a value system like I can persist and endure more than the average.
I've endured abuses, I've endured violence in the home, I've endured alcoholism, things like that.
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Those are challenges that I've seen and face.
I will endure for my children so they have a different life that doesn't look like copy, paste,
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copy, paste, copy, paste.
But I had no idea how many programs I had running of my childhood that I would have to face.
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And so that's six months.
Yes man, so spot on.
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And so.
I want to add a little emphasis here because that's so good.
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Well, to two pieces.
One, giving our children a completely different lifestyle experience.
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Exposure is one of the greatest things we can do for ourselves or for our kids.
And just showing them what's out in the world and giving them a totally different life, a completely
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different chassis on which to build their lives.
It is priceless.
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And you know, I, I'm 100% all about that.
Yeah, I can imagine.
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And, and then the second piece is, well, in order to do that as as a husband, as a father, as a
provider, as a protector man, I got to face all my stuff.
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I have to work harder on myself than I do on anything else.
I've got to do the inner work to make sure I can show up for the outer work.
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So it's this, it's this awesome thing.
And I think it's a great thing for, for husbands and fathers to face.
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Like, I want to give so much more life to my wife and children.
And in order for me to do that, I have to face my own problems, my own weaknesses, whatever it is
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like for each man, it's different.
My own fears, my own insecurities, whatever it is like, I just love that connection.
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I don't even know if I'm articulating it well enough.
I want to give this to my children.
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I want to provide this opportunity for them.
In order to do that, I have to become a better man.
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Yeah, 100%.
And I have to say that at the moment I'm not thinking right.
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Better man I at one point that's.
Like, that's the hindsight articulation right there.
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That's what I mean, It's like, because a lot when you're in, when you're in it, it feels like I told
Robin, when we're traveling to Europe, I said this, this first trip, and now we've been traveling
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since full time since 2015.
Like I told her, I go, this trip might kill me.
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There's there's something going on.
I can't point to it now going back to some trauma.
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I had never actually dealt with any of it that Robin didn't even know the depths of the things that
I experienced because a good boy does not talk about those things.
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A good boy does not show emotion like I needed.
I was the oldest of four and a good portion of that my my younger siblings were were visibly
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suffering.
I was suffering on the inside, but I was coached and said like, Hey, can you keep it together?
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Can you not?
And when I would show emotion or try to like, hey, I need help, like hey, like a good boy doesn't
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that isn't upset.
So that was another program is like I internalize and push them to the depths of my soul.
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Where is like and then all of a sudden you're standing at a fjord in Norway going why do I feel so
empty all this coming up?
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And so the most powerful thing that I can tell people because I think travel and adventure, I'm now
to the point where I'm where with clients, I go, OK, what's your travel and adventure?
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And I said, well, you know, I want to get some RNR in Hawaii.
No, that doesn't count.
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I I need you outside the I need you outside the box.
And they go, well, why?
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Because outside the boxes will you uncover what that which you are potentially have been had held
down.
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And then also comes this sense of pride that I can do hard things as men because I can do hard
things.
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I can, I do burpee.
Like right now I get like, OK, I'm recovering from a couple different little aches and pains.
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I'm like, OK, I'm going to see if I can squeeze out a sum total of certain amount of pull ups in a
day.
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I do nutty kind of things as well as a strength and condition conditioning coach that I was
initially in my 20 years as a brick and mortar.
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Oh, sometimes we don't lean into the stuff that's hard.
We lean into our strengths.
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Right.
And, and to me, an example of this very stark example of this is these.
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I'm great on a bike because I grew up on a bike.
It's natural Jumped like most kids growing up in the 80s, we make janky jumps and you jump over
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things and your parents, aren't they really there?
You're just having some fun.
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And so when I go down downhill bike or climb, I'm like, heck, yeah, let's go.
When we we rock climb a fair mount and we ski like I'm only my second season skiing.
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Like talk about outside the box.
I always tell Robin like, hey, you know, we always coach 4% outside the box, like I'm 50% outside
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the box when we first start these things.
Awesome, I love that.
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And so it it's such a.
Great way to live brother.
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Like just pushing those limits, constantly exposing ourselves to new things, new idea.
Like just novelty.
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Try new foods, new places, new activities.
For me, it's humbling because it keeps you humble.
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If I only do what I'm good at because I'm afraid of, of sucking before you succeed, right?
If I'm afraid of looking like a failure, if I'm afraid of, you know, not being good at something.
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And so I stay in one little thing.
It's just I'm I'm limiting myself.
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Right.
But if I keep.
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Pursuing new things.
I'm exposing myself and my family to all these new wonderful things that life has to offer.
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And I'm growing like I'm in growth mode.
You're in growth mode when you're leaning into something you're like you're not familiar with.
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It's uncomfortable, but man, it's the best way to grow and the fastest way to grow.
Yeah, and I think that the last 10 years, my children, they're my idols because they're the mindset
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that they've been homeschooled their whole life.
They're not within the system.
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They look at things with fresh eyes and we'll be in situations which you know you have, like you're
flexing different kinds of muscles when you travel and their ability to problem solve from a calm
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state.
Yep, is huge.
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Is.
Huge.
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And I look at them, I'm like, right now I can feel that safety and security program like I am on
alert.
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I went through essentially 6 months in Europe feeling like I was a watchdog waiting for anything to
jump.
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I got this.
I can, there's five of us in tow.
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I got a four year old is our youngest.
I'm like, man, some of the challenges I faced in those and just to see them now, I'll be like, hey,
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calm down, we'll figure this out.
I'm like, I still have this alerted nervous system which kept me safe, right?
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It kept me safe.
You know, one of the things that my wife always comments about is this ability to adapt to a
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situation and improve likability, which is a wonderful thing even in this dialogue, right?
We we can connect deeply, but it's deeper than just what I'm about to allude to that chameleon.
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I go, well, if that guy doesn't like you or he, or if you get him to like you, he's not going to
stab you in the back.
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And when you grow up in a rough neighborhood, you know to be to know how to blend and make sure you
can millionize.
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But in there created some challenges for me to always like trying to adapt is supposed to just being
me.
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And so my kids have literally been at the forefront of seeing their dad go doing hard work.
And they also, I'm also very aware that they go, you won't see me quit ever.
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Beautiful.
Ever.
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It's modeling right in front of them, leaving from the front of how to work through challenge, how
to solve problems, how to grow like a man.
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Yeah, yeah.
And and there I wish I could be at the level where there are their consciousness, their being, their
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creative potential.
But as I've shared, like, Oh yeah, you know what, for me, Nicaragua, that's like the fun, like I
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know I've been to, you know, we had family that lives there.
You know what it's like to smell trash, right?
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Even when you, when I say that you probably go, Oh yeah, I know what it's like exactly.
It's a traveling to these places.
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I knew like I always had memories of that.
And they created them because they for them, they saw that and would see happiness levels off the
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chart.
They have nothing because we've been in Nicaragua as well too.
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And Bali is probably one of the most intense places we've been to show that because there would be.
And they're like running.
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These kids are four years old, five years old, no clothes dirty.
And they're still happy, happy, happy.
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And my God puts just them seeing that like, wait, wait a second.
How is that possible?
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Yeah.
And nothing.
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But that's another lesson that travel has bought.
But in that travel and through this journey, even as little as today, we're reflecting upon the
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states.
The other, the power of wanting and desire.
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Rob was a spearhead to do this.
I knew I I don't really have have it.
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I don't really have the capacity to do this.
But I trust you and I'll work my tail off to make this happen because I think it's valued.
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I saw nothing more than a house jeweler.
It's good.
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Well, I like, I love how you frame that up.
You're like, she wants this.
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It's it's her dream.
I want to support her.
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I don't currently have the capacity.
Yeah, but there's this.
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Under and you and you probably didn't think like this I didn't and and probably didn't articulate
till later but then like I don't currently have the capacity but I'm going to cultivate and develop
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the capacity yeah, I'm going to be and this is my commitment I'm like I'm going to become the man
that can provide the the life and lifestyle that my wife and children want and need yeah a. 100% I
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had a you know, as you travel full time, you always kind of draw other people that do the same
thing.
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I have a gentleman.
When I first started, so we had our business for 20 years and then we travel some for some time.
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Then I'd come back and work back with clients and then save and then travel again.
And then when we're starting to want to really full time, truly full time and be digital, there was
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a sense of fear because I wanted to provide.
I always wanted.
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There's a guarantee right here.
It's this very small cup.
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And this gentleman that had travelled, he would do sort of Outward Bound events with, with with
young adults.
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He said, look, Victor, he's like, because you're holding on to this pint, you can't grab the gallop,
man.
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That was I've known that for years and years and years.
It was so difficult.
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And then it's what?
It's terrifying.
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It's terrifying because.
I remember the same thing, sitting down the pint and going oh boy, here it's it's all over.
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It is so it's like you feel it in your cells.
You have this.
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The taste in your mouth changes.
It's terrifying.
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And in some ways it's now taken almost 10 years because you'll see, you'll see.
You'll see me some on the platform, but I've always wanted to be like propel them.
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I've always kind of I say this, Robin says jokes with me.
I'm like, oh, look, as long as I'm the soil that you grow from, I don't need accolades.
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Everyone knows Carlos, the people that that they're the closest to me.
They know what what Victoria has done.
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I'll say what Victoria has done for the family on some level, it's propelled them.
However, I think now I'm getting to the point where the world is such a nutty place and men and
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men's role in general.
Robin since the very beginning.
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And I think anyone that listens to this, she's a very assertive, powerful woman, like I'm sure your
wife is too.
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And they honor us.
Sometimes it could be.
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Oh, well, I've heard the word emasculate and I've go, oh, what in your mind is masculine and what is
feminine?
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Because both of us in within each man and woman, there's divine masculine, divine feminine energy.
And then we'll sometimes say, no, I'm like, you ever held a newborn?
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You ever held your children?
What comes out of you when that happens?
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There's this beautiful balance.
And so to me, a masculine man does not want to be heard over his wife.
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She's she honors him at points in lots of different ways by being who she is.
Because I always told her, like, say it, just speak truth.
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I got your back.
Yep.
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Man.
And there's nothing, there's nothing more beautiful than a woman who's been given the the the
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opening to be fully herself.
And there's nothing so powerful, majestic as a man who has that same opportunity and grasps or makes
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that same opportunity to be fully himself, like leaning into what you're saying.
It's so powerful and beautiful and leads to an extraordinary relationship and an extraordinary life.
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Yeah.
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And I think we're only really like really coming around to that to the point where my voice on our
platform, we we sat down together for the first time really ever 10 years because Gabby, my oldest
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daughter, my oldest daughter and Robin are the ones that came with the zenith of of a blog.
The only thing I can claim to fame is I came up with a name, nomads with a purpose because this
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isn't an SEO that great.
And you know, the problems with SEO because they're like, well, the people don't search that.
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But I'm like, our purpose is family and adventure togetherness.
And those are those are kind of different these days.
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Like, you know, the fact that our kids like to hang out with us is rare, is rare.
You know, we've had relatives.
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Absolutely love it.
Let me ask, brother, like what are what are some of the things that that you had to face Carl Jung
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talks about?
You know, each person has to look into to the abyss and look into the void.
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And and as you, you kind of described some of it a little bit, but what are the things that you had
to go in and, and wrestle with and and allow to come up and process?
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I think it be super helpful for listeners for to just be like, you know, because we're all we all
face these these inner turmoil.
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We all face the weaknesses, the struggle share.
Maybe if you can, if you think of like a couple of things that you had to face and overcome and the
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difference that made.
Yeah, now mine are mine are going to be somewhat unique.
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We use a particularly anagram for example, when we work, when we help people in their understanding
of their personal line, not to put them in a box, but I'm going to naturally an enneagram too, which
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is like the server kind of natural helper.
Now that natural helper sort of was evolved as in a family where it was stress was high, money was
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shortage, like I needed to step up and, and I got some accolades and attention when I would, when I
would help, right?
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But I also pointed to the fact like, because that's how I, your, your kids should just receive love,
right?
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Then it's not something that they have to work for.
I needed to get some like in a family with three little kids running around, money's tight, 2
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parents working.
So I naturally adopted that personality of being a helper.
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The problem with those with that personality for me is that I started to go well, I want
affirmation, I don't want things right.
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And so my highest reward initially the creative challenges I found a wonderful woman.
I wanted to have a family of my own.
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I knew the relationships what I wanted to generate with my family that the closeness, but I did not
have a vision for of all the skills that I have.
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I lack certain talents in like forecasting and creating a plan for so that.
But guess what, I married a woman that does have that capability, right?
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And that created some challenges for me because then I would be like, she would go, Hey, what do you
think of this place?
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Awesome.
Anything you want without even a real feeling for that, right?
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And then coming into a relationship with like expectations and then understanding these are some
things that and the words and the values that we live by.
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I've said persistence already a few times.
So clearly, like that would be one of those words that was in there, but that can also be one of
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those things I had to look at that word.
I'm like, I'm just going to grind something out instead of going like, who is this working?
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Discard.
Moving on.
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Yes, yeah, I love that that you point that out because virtues aren't always virtues.
Inside this inherent strength is an inherent weakness.
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And something wonderful like persistence can be taken too far out of context and and create problems
like Zach, like you're saying.
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Yeah.
And and so for me, I had to start to really and this is now the process ago.
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I observe everything as if in the third person and going back and going do I want am I do I want to
be this?
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That's where this whole growth process is come, come out to be.
Do I want to be this persist.
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OK, I can you know what that's not as important.
What do I, you know, I have to embrace those those kinds of words.
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So going back to the concept is that I had to pull apart and I'm writing a book that I call
affectionately Tacos the trails.
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And it's about understanding those childhood programs like I'm a good boy doesn't have feelings.
A good boy hides his emotions.
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A good boy listens at all costs.
A good boy doesn't want because if if you want and I can't provide for you.
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That hurts me.
So hey, can I have Nikes like everyone else?
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Well, my mom tells her story.
She then go cuatro pesetas.
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If I have four quarters and there's four of you, how does that work?
Oh, OK, mom 25 and So what that does is it leaves a mark of limitation.
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Now again, I have a roof overhead.
I never starved of a However, I can now observe those programs and I go, oh, this is what limited my
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ability to grow our platform because I felt limited.
I must take.
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The other thing is money is scarce.
I remember at the peak of our business, I approached my wonderful parents, both of them at the same
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time, busting at the scenes, 250 students a week, 50 personal training clients.
And I was doing it pretty much myself because at that point we had three or four children, four
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children.
And I said, Mama, I need to ask you a question.
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Like, I don't know what to do.
People want to keep coming in.
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I can, I cannot physically work another hour.
I'm exhausted all the time.
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My dad will proceed to get in but if they want to pay you take.
It.
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You should take it instead of saying.
That's awesome.
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She's like, wait, wait, people are offering you money?
Yeah.
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You should take it instead of going to the concept of like, hey, we should public considers.
I was too tired to consider scalability, too tired to consider this or more if you have this type of
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man.
And so that that kind of rooted like you should always take what you have, take what you have
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because you never know when it's going to run out.
That gives me a limitation and limited me.
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It's not limiting me anymore.
It's now it's now the concept like what message can we get?
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Because I know a lot of people have what I have going on in my brain, and it limits them to live a
vibe.
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The vibe, the most vibrant.
Let's say that because if you say someone, if you say someone to someone, hey, are you happy?
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Yeah, I'm happy.
I'm living the life exactly I want.
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But then when you start pulling it apart, exactly, wait, that's where the rubber meets the road and
you go, you realize, like, are you living the most amazing life and connecting with that service to
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the universe?
You have this beautiful miracle that you are and you're going to live mundane and not feel into
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wonderful, amazing emotions.
Exactly and settling and acquiescing for for mere existence instead of this vibrant life that's
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possible.
I love it, brother.
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So many great insights and great story.
What habits, what habits now are are serving you and your family?
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What, what's helping you show up as a husband, a father, a provider, a protector?
I mean, I know you've been instructed to this journey in these ten years of travel.
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What are you?
What are you doing now that's that's really helping you thrive and helping your family thrive?
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That's a, that's an absolutely wonderful question.
And I, I think I would probably start off with the concept because I sometimes create content about
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your ice bath is going to let you down if there's no intention with it.
Just in doing, look, when I talk with clients and I'm helping them as a health Wellness coach and a
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life coach, it's like, look, I got to get your head above the water.
You're drowning right now.
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And so that first initial thing, eat this way, breathe this way, move this way, do these things to
get, it's all to just get your head above the water.
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But we have to have a zenith, a reason why.
Yes, that's huge.
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Because for me, I mean, especially coming from where I came from, I always did.
I always had the most advanced.
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I always had the most advanced training techniques.
I've been strength training since I was, I got my first weight set when I was in middle school.
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My uncle saw what was going on with me with me.
And they're probably internalizing they could feel we need to help us confidence.
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They gave me a weight set at middle school, took off.
So I've always trained.
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I've always eaten in a specific way.
I was limited my consumption.
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Like if I have a beer a week, that's, that's a lot.
I've always slept right, ate right and certain things.
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And yet I ended up with GI issues, sleep issues.
Like I was, I've had these moments where I was like, there's a mind body interface that I am
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missing.
And I always thought I could out chicken and broccoli because I, you know, those are standard
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bodybuilding staples.
When I was at the peak of our business, I went through a massive burnout.
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So I was working so many damn hours right about the time I was talking to my parents.
And so I learned I'm like, Oh, there's something going on.
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And that's when I kind of hinted at like, maybe I need to share some of this with Robin.
And I realized how much that was at play.
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And so part of that long winded explanation is that having a deeper understanding and connection
with that mind body interface and learning how to make that connection on the daily.
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I have to tell you that to this moment, every hour I must check in because I know how powerful my
programming was.
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I check in like, who am I?
Am I being the person that's going to be successfully this this family?
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Because I got so much stuff in the background that my wiring is set to always pick up.
That's part of the reason I have these in my ears.
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Yes, it's powerful.
Because if I hear a noise, my amygdala says there's someone coming into your house.
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Because I've literally had that happen.
I've been in our home as kid.
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People have broken it and that wires you to double check, triple check.
It was made it very uncomfortable for me to travel with the family.
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Well, that because they're like when?
You were telling your story.
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You're going through Europe and you're always, you know, waiting for somebody to jump out.
You put your mind into this survival mode and you're in fight or flight all. 30 percent, 100% your
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Your.
Body is responding to that your cell at a cellular level, you're getting receptors all for cortisol.
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I mean, you're just operating.
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You're you're it's intense and that that alone will wear you out.
I love what you're saying is like, check in with yourself hourly.
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Like where's my purpose?
How am I doing on my intentions?
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I'm I'm doing the things, but am I doing them with intention?
That is awesome.
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Nervous system essentially is naturally easily hijacked.
Makes me a really good makes me really good at combat sports, really good at makes me really good
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wrestler.
I'm a great my.
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I've been practicing in jiu jitsu for 14 years.
Cordless is a great training partner practicing out of San Diego.
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They've taken into deep water whoever.
I always tell people this is like you can't be in that state 24/7.
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You have to learn to go from 4th gear down to 1st gear.
And on some level that face, that body posture that you made, it's not an exaggeration, but it's
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happening on a subconscious level.
And so the better and more advanced way I tell people, if you're really worried about your health,
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you need to not only do all these things, but bring awareness to it.
And this is the hard part for sometimes for guys because I go breath work, meditation and
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journaling, which are like, wow, Victoria, Victoria, please don't tell me to do that.
Please don't tell me.
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I'm like, do you care about your health?
Exactly.
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And so the breath work to me is it was a critical component.
I, I did my first breath work, deep breath work dive about COVID because I could feel it in my cells
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like there was a rattling right.
Everyone's travel blog, everyone's like capacity, the ability to travel everywhere.
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It was just so uncomfortable and I had to persist behind closed doors, cover blinds.
You can I, I'm going to work.
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I will not not provide that few moments where people are like, Hey, I can arrest you.
I'm like, you can give me 100 bucks.
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That's how much it costs to feed my family and take care of it.
I will happily close this door, but I promise you, I was deemed unnecessary, right?
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As a trainer, right coach.
And so being able to be aware, the biggest tidbit that I can give, the one most powerful is, yes,
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you must do all these habits, they're all out there.
All the biohacking is certainly valid, but bringing an awareness to just like Carl Young, an
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understanding of the self on a deeper level, how you commune with that, whether it's yoga, I teach
yoga, Qigong, breath work, deep holotropic breath work, you know, child work, Everyone's a little
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bit different.
I have some men that struggle with anxiety so much.
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I'm like, all right, we're going to move.
We're going to move limbs because you're just, you can't sit in that.
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But being able to take your mind out of fight or flight is often that what that's what that one hour
check in is for me because I naturally will fall into that.
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Man, that's so good, brother.
I love this.
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I love it.
It's just such a powerful reminder that with, with the list of specific activities, powerful
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practices, we have to intentionally connect well the mind and the spirit.
So for me and, and what I teach the triple trifecta, the first one is fitness, but it's not just
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physical fitness.
It's fitness in mind, body and spirit because they're all connected.
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And so we have mentally fit, spiritually fit and physically fit together in order to be a whole man,
to keep the vehicle, right.
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And that's exactly what you're illustrating so well that when I'm doing the physical practices, I
need to check in up here and in here, you know, in the head and the heart to make sure like this,
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this is what's happening.
I'm getting full benefit from these practices.
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Yeah.
To add to that, you know the concept of I, I've prided myself a lot on self sacrifice.
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I can so sacrifice that persistence.
It's right there.
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And through this travels I realize that can only be done to a certain extent.
Now I'm someone that I will never not not get a workout.
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I will never not do my best to eat in a specific way.
I will never not take care of my aerobic conditioning.
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I can go the list was on based on my background, you guys, you guys can get that.
However, I was damaging myself on a deeper part because not reaching into like what matters actually
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to me in life and my experiences.
I tell the story, Austin, that Robin has literally grabbed me by the shoulders and like, I knew
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there was some problems because she would say, Hey, what do you want to go eat?
I don't know wherever you want.
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No.
Where do you want to go?
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Eat wherever you want Where you should grab me by the shoulder, are you?
Being like really passive, had you just kind of settled into like, I'll go wherever, I'll just go
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along to get along, like avoid conflict.
In some ways, yes.
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Now the challenge with that, it's like it's not a passivity and I think this is anyone that comes
from just still going back to poverty mindset.
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Like to me it's like I was standing at a home plate and slam wife, 5 kids, successful business
relationship.
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Do I want to go to look at Fjord?
Do you want to go to Amsterdam?
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In my mind is like, I've already, I've already won the lottery.
Like every however, so good already.
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This is where there's a lot of good men who get into the same kind of trouble.
I come across it and I'm sure you do as well.
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It's like, man, yeah, things are so good.
And we become.
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And I think maybe you've seen this too and like to hear your thoughts.
Like I I see it like they.
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We want to be grateful and we want to be contented.
Maybe, but it there's a fine line between content and and grateful and complacent and the
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complaisance creates trouble and wives pick up on it.
Yes, and Robin picks up on it and and I recently like this is something I'm working through.
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For example, in 2019 we for some time we grabbed a place, a family member had a place in Montana.
And so we hit up in there like, OK, we're going to grab a place and just kind of had on see what
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happens.
And I proceeded to try to work with my clients all digitally.
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It was nerve wracking because I thought I'm not going to be able to provide the quality.
Of course I did.
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I don't know why I didn't think I've done this 30 years.
I can tell people like I don't even need to see your your legs when you squat.
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I can see what you're doing with your head and neck to know what your legs are doing.
That's that's how many years I've been watching.
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And so when I when I would do that, they all proceeded to to go skiing.
So they have a lot since 2019.
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They were skiing multiply times a week.
I'm way behind.
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I've never even learned.
So this weekend for example, these are challenges that this is real challenge that in the face of
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someone that has.
Some of this workout and working it out and sometimes lose it because I want to be candid like this
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is a process.
It's a long process.
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Then do it.
Don't take.
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You can snap your fingers.
I know plenty of people that snap their fingers, but that's not that'd be what your soul is going to
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work through.
Like it's going to take a little while.
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And so I went skiing and they're amazing, amazing skiers.
All my children and my 2 oldest daughters are snowboarders and they're down the hill.
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I went to ski with them on at Deer Valley this weekend and here I am putting along.
I got this gym to me so I trained.
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I'm like, oh man, I'm going to stick my teeth into it.
I'm going to train a little bit harder.
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I can instantly feel as I go down the first run, I'm like, Oh yeah, I over trained this week.
I can feel the depth of fatigue in my legs.
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You do leg day and then you hit the slopes.
You pay for it.
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Yeah, and but, but that's not what that's not all that happened.
I had to observe the psyche.
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I was like, you guys left me, how could you do it to me?
You know what I've provided for you.
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Like there's this whole subconscious dialogue that happens by the time to get to around like, Hey,
you guys ski like 100 days a year.
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You couldn't hang with your old man Like you couldn't hang with the guy was just just this is my
second season.
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So I'm doing great in in many, but like still this dialogue, like the expectation.
And then I, I have to share that.
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First off, men have to share that my expectation is for you to hang with me a little bit and then
they have the choice, like, why would we do that?
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You're here for having your own expression, and we're here to have our own expression.
And you should be just charge to charge.
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And I'm like, you know, you're right.
That's an immature thought process.
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And so being aware of those things, that complacency and also going like part of the reason we got
into MTV or into mountain biking was that Robin finally pushed me hard enough and was patient enough
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to go, What is it that you will be waking up at?
Let's get this, let's get it, let's go get it done.
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Let's go like, let's start, mom, like done.
Let's work our way towards that.
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And that they could kind of see me now in this other shift.
And so I am the opposite, right?
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So we have men that face these challenges and give and give and give.
We have to be the light, right?
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A man is always giving to me, a good healthy man.
I would say if you know, you can just keep giving.
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That's how you know you're doing yourself work if you feel like giving a gift.
Yeah.
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I don't know where to give, you need to go do some other work.
Exactly.
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Yes, yes, yes.
That is huge.
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It is so huge and so hard.
I tell men, and I just had words with a gentleman that I've been working with that has some
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significant health issues and he's saying, you know, I think I need to stop.
Things are tight.
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And, you know, I just, this is too hard.
And I'm like, look, you tell me you prioritize your family.
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You are cutting decades out of your life by your current health system.
Is that caring for your family and it comes down heavy and then the Water Works come like I just
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don't know why I can't make myself do this.
I'm like, because your ego wants to protect you and legitimize your suffering.
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Wow.
And I have a lot of that that I work with.
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I I share that I get, I take a look.
I know where you're at.
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It hurts.
I have to lean you into the hardest part, not your strengths to lean you into the hardest part.
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So if that means so.
Because you're just going to make me cry.
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If crying works, buddy, you got to get those tears out.
Listen, I always tell people this, and one of the most powerful, I'm going to share with you how I
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can identify.
I'm straight up with the guys, like, look, this is how we do it.
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You want to get down deep, deep down the rabbit hole and figure out if you got to deal with some
emotional repression.
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It's in a comfortable place, no distractions.
Breathe 4 seconds in, four seconds out.
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Connect with that breath and your body like tension here, tension there.
Connect for a few minutes, like, OK, connect first, then move into your heart, not only just into
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your, your physical heart and your emotional heart, your spiritual heart.
And I want you to sit in that darn place until you can elicit love, gratitude and joy.
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And at first, when I guide them there, they have a hard time if I just say those words, You and I
both know where you do this work.
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It doesn't always happen.
And then I go remember your wedding.
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And then I say, OK, now remove the first time you've held your kids.
And then Steven just talking about it because I can tap into that heart space and go, all right,
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yeah, that now I'm open.
Now I'm ready to do work now that it has nothing to do with feeling like less of a man.
44:34
As a matter of fact, you'll feel like more of 1 ready that you've created bandwidth.
Absolutely.
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Because you've let go and connected with a deeper part, right?
The mask that we wear in society, they tell you never to feel that.
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Well, I can tell you where those guys are.
I have 30 years of experience.
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Yeah, we have to feel more.
Men have to feel more and deliberately do what you're talking about.
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There's spend time daily, I would say maybe multiple times a day, getting into those places where we
allow ourselves to feel, where we remind ourselves that we are feeling beings and that we we tap it.
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That's man.
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I love to teach that.
That's the power plant.
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Those feelings, that's the power plant.
And so many good men are not connected to their power.
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And so they feel empty and they feel like they're dragging and they feel purposeless.
Like get into those feelings and feel them and let those feelings power you up, charge you, so you
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have more to give.
Yeah, I, I agree with that statement.
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And the other thing that concept that I that I really I think is valuable is if we're talking about
leadership and leading men, we know certain personality types.
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Hey, I want to go eat that dirt.
I want you to go do 100 burpees and I want you to go crush your day.
45:57
But we have a whole slew and a whole generation of men sometimes say leading from the back where
you're just pulling up people, right?
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Like pulling up that bottom 3rd that like we can have an amazing powerful society if only we take
the ones that are a little bit be like, Hey, I know you're hurting.
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This is why you're not alone, You're not different.
I can help you.
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Let's deal with this.
There's a path for you.
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I love David, I do like what his his messages are powerful, but there's a whole slew of guys that
are just look at that and be like, that's cool for him.
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I got real stuff.
And if you read his back story, he's got some stuff and I cried my way through that book too.
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It's extremely powerful to have these alphas that lead the way and can do that lead the way.
However, I think if we just look at each individual and realize that you're no different.
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You have stuff.
Every one of us has stuff and we can be the best possible version of ourselves and it can be
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amazing.
And you can live an amazing an amazing existence, whether that's travel, because people do that all
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the time with Rob and I in trouble with you and your wife, like, oh, that's that's good for you.
I mean, people, you read my last day, they go, oh, that's white privilege.
47:15
Like, that's really funny.
That's really.
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Funny, like, yeah, the same thing because I was like, I like my parents divorced early, stepdads
came and went.
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I left home at 16.
Like I was living in bad, bad neighborhoods.
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Like, like wondering, literally seriously wondering how I could get $0.25 to buy another package of
ramen noodles.
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Right?
And they throw the, the white privilege saying, you know, not everyone can have the life you have
47:39
and you were born that way.
I'm like, oh, you know, you don't.
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You don't even.
Know you don't.
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Well, no, you don't.
I mean, and those those things, you have a mark and it looks like you've been able to face some of
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those coming from that.
You can do one of two things, right?
47:53
It can empower you.
I'm never going to be that, but it can also limit you a little bit into highlight your your
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capacity, your full right, Because I know I'd like I had to work for, I worked for a moving company
for six months.
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I actually taught the guys.
I'm like, this is how we get more tips.
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You want me to tell you it's like, yeah, like when you move a piece of furniture, make a comment,
start a conversation with the owner if we can.
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They think we're all hoodlums moving their clothes, moving their stuff into here and we're going to
steal something.
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If you can get them to gain trust, make a comment about that.
That's a wonderful photo or wonderful picture.
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All of a sudden it's it drops that intensity and and you can kind of dry yourself in.
That's so man, it's so good.
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I I loved I loved hearing this.
Thanks for sharing your stories and your and your practices, the things you coach because I, you and
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I both had to process so many things and I think all men do.
But to take whatever the background, whatever the mindset, what whatever is going on, we have to
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take those things and process them.
And I know for me, until they were processed, I couldn't move forward and I couldn't access my
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power.
And the wounds, especially if wound is never healed, it doesn't matter where you go or what you do,
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you will still bleed inside that and it will always be sensitive.
Somebody will touch the wound and probably your wife and kids, they just wow, it keeps going like
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man, until that gets healed and it's no longer painful to touch.
You can't be the man that you know you're capable of being.
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It's your spot on, brother.
We've got to do the inner work to heal the process, to get through those things so we can get the
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bandwidth to then lean in and be formidable husbands and fathers.
Yeah, I.
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I always tell guys this anger is a clue and emotional mean on that there's something deeper.
We shift to anger because it feels good.
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Up your tea, get you in fight or flight.
But you're like, if you can get to the point where you've done enough practice to observe the stuff
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like, gosh, I'm kind of a jerk right now.
Why am I being a jerk?
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Scratch.
OK, well, you know, I worked really hard today.
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I really expected like things to be easy, but why do I want things to be easy?
Exactly.
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And then all of a sudden we can go go down that.
And sometimes that creates the work that you do.
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You like, you want to push, push to that level where you're like, hey, are you mad right now?
Yeah.
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Why are you talking to me like that?
Why are you asking me these difficult questions?
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I'm like, well, if you're happy with where you're at, you can proceed.
If you're not.
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If you have the results you want, we're good.
But if?
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We say that and that's really the work that I'm beginning to do is I am putting the slideshow for
how poverty mindset impacted on our YouTube channel, how my poverty mindset impacted and almost
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created a divorce through my full time travel.
But I wouldn't take any of it back because the person I am today had to go through that.
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It's completely different.
It had to, it had to suffer.
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It had to suffer so I could share the story even in this moment with you with full vulnerability.
Like look, I might not have this all figured out, but I know this.
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I am now gaining dominion.
It's not a program.
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It's not a floppy disk that's inserting.
You're going to react to this way, defend this way, attack this way, exist this way.
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It's being taken out and going.
I do not want to be that.
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Exactly extracting.
That's beautiful.
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Give us one thing then that that you and your wife have done or are doing that kind of keep the
magic in the marriage.
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What's something you guys have that that keeps the spark and the friendship and the romance alive?
You know, I think when we have this, we do some marriage, you know, we work with families like I
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expressed a little bit before.
And one of the big things that people do and what I think we're doing and even today is especially
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on our sort of anniversary is what I call contract negotiation.
You know, you get you, you sign with the team and you come in going like, all right, this is our
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contract.
I will give you everything I got in exchange for you for me to be your husband.
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And that contract like it like with the professional team, just like Tom Brady going to the Bucks
now we're renegotiate.
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So what we generally do is more often go an example of this is like we take a high level of pride in
what goes into our bodies.
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And so we can't go out.
We don't go out to eat very often.
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Well, that's a, that's usually a very defined easy way for parents for parents to go out and date
each other because one of the parts of that is like never stop dating each other.
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However, what that looks like changes.
And so renegotiating on the monthly, believe it or not, like, hey, how'd we do this week that I
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connect with you deeply.
Did you feel heard?
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I mean, Greg, you've been with your wife.
Like, I don't know, you're probably comfortable being with your family as many hours in the day as
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we men go, Man, I don't know how you do that.
I love it.
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I absolutely love it, absolutely love it.
But a lot of people again, their bandwidth issue is going like what is the expectation?
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And so we knew early on that first we didn't, we couldn't hide the dialogues that we wanted to have.
They were just going, we live in small 200 square feet.
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We're going to have difficult dialogues.
And to me, I was like, at first I was like, no, no, no, kids shouldn't see that.
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I saw that all the time.
I saw yelling and screaming and slamming of doors and ripping away and mom's crying.
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I'm like, I don't want to do that.
And she's like, wait, it's like difficult dialogues doesn't necessarily mean that it's negotiating
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those concepts.
And so the what I how we keep the passion alive as a redefinition on what that is that the other
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person needs.
Like Robin always wants to feel hurt.
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Well, in some cases, like I've had dialogues with her on long drives, I'm like, hey, we just spoke
for six hours.
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Did you feel hurt?
No, holy smoke, I'm doing something.
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Wrong.
Exactly.
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And and how much trouble we get ourselves in if we assume without asking.
Man, we just talked for six hours.
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She feels hurt, yes.
No, that's that's where we get into trouble right there.
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And so, so expectations, I think how I keep excitement, joy and we do have our challenges.
We still have it.
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We're building this.
We we made sometimes error maybe benefit, you know, of spreading wide right.
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Isabel has her own content creation.
Gabby has her own content creation.
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We have nomads.
I have my coaching platform and that's broad.
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And so in some challenges that we would oh, if we had unified this well, can't go back.
If we had unified this together and created that voice that creates some challenges.
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But to point to the idea of of having a unified like to me, what is amazing, what's hot working side
by side by my wife, like every time I talk about a vision of our future and connecting with that,
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that is a massive and we're in alignment on a good portion.
I mean, she doesn't care if I bench press 350 again.
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What the heck does she care?
She just bought the six pack.
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Exactly.
So so I don't, we don't have to lie on everything, but a good portion like, Hey, I want to stand on
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the stage with you and I want to have an elaborate presentation that involves our children where
they kind of weave in and go.
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Now let me tell you what I saw from dad right now.
And people laugh and they can kind of express, express like the journey so that people not only
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laugh, but cry and go, wow, that was hard.
You did it your way kind of concept And so expectations also a vision for the future that's aligned
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now that's for us, right?
Like that is a massive, massive for Digiac to living a life in alignment where you get up and go.
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I mean, if it's a little high 5, let's let's go 100% that.
And I think you that resonates with you.
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Yeah, absolutely.
We live that.
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We've, we've been doing that for really, I mean in small ways since the beginning, but in major ways
for the last 18 years, chasing dreams with alignment.
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And again, we're, we're very different people and, and very different big dreams.
And we find that overlapping alignment for our family dream and vision.
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So alignment and vision and then constantly checking in with the expectations isn't.
That it doesn't sound sexy.
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But it works.
But it.
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Works sexy because it works, man.
Because you know, when she gets home from skiing right now, they're out skiing at Snowbird.
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And so they'll come down.
They'll come down and I'm like, I know we're going to go get a climb together.
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I know now I've scripted like these are the dialogues I want to have because I know not only does
she want, that's what she wants, but then she knows Dick will want to talk about his interview and
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what he got excited about.
And she knows that she needs to ask me that.
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And so those expectations are like, I had to share those.
But a lot of guys don't even know what their expectations are.
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They'll say things like, I just want peace.
Damn, brother.
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I don't know if that's going to work.
Peace mean committed aloofness.
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My aloofness was another clue.
Like I, I that was a trauma response.
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Gabor Mattei talks about that.
I read the Bormiti's The Myth of Normal and I realized that my brain, when Robin and I would get an
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escalated, escalated conversation with friction, I would be like, Oh my God, I did not hear you the
last five minutes.
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And I love this person and I want to pay attention, but for some reason my brain goes so and just
zones out the defense mechanism for probably how I grew up.
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When you hear that friction, there's no other way.
You can't escape physically, but you can escape the mind.
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Exactly.
And so I only share all of these little things as they come up because I know a lot of the men that
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I struggle with, like they're just zone out and like it's not an accident, guys.
The goal if you need to walk, I will generally when we have a heated conversation, I will walk and
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pace to stay focused so that my brain, I had to train myself to do that.
I mean, that's a little.
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Yeah, it's beautiful.
Yeah.
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Rather so many great insights man.
This is fantastic.
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Thank you so much for for sharing this.
How can men connect with you and find you and your and what you guys are doing?
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Well, you can reach us across all platforms and nomads with the purpose to see our our travel and
and movement.
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But if you're looking for a holistic approach to health, you can just find me and coach Victor
Robledo on Instagram and across all other places.
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If you're looking and you're feeling, feeling like you, you just need a specific I, I always, always
take this.
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And everyone needs a certain person.
They click and vibe.
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So there's, I used to feel like I would keep secrets and I'm like, oh, no, I, I don't want to shift.
And the reality is it takes all types yourself, myself, the more of us that there are saying the
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same things.
One person is not going to resonate with you.
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I have people that I have three people that are from my neck of the woods.
It's clear that because of our back story, our neighborhood, we share stories.
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Audrey had you remember that school.
Yeah, I would run that school.
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I always get jumped there and like, and then because of that, that that helps them like, OK, she did
that.
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And so I think the more of us that are sharing these messages, the more powerful and all different
types of messages.
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Obviously you, the work that you do, you have a massive impression impact on me.
What you do and what your family does is lead me to like, I can say hard things, I can be speak
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truth and people will still because in the end that the little boy is like, just go, it's lay low
and you can glide by.
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You'll be safe.
Wait, safe is not good.
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Safe leaves you just surviving.
What kind of lifestyle exactly I love?
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That brother, Sir, thank you.
Thank you for sharing your message.
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Thank you for being the man you're being for your family, but but for others, for for serving and
caring and and making a difference.
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I'm right with you, Sir.
We need more men leading from the front, starting first and foremost with their their marriages,
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their families, their children, and then reaching out with communities and man.
We can.
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We can change the world by changing ourselves and changing our families and then changing our
communities.
