Future Of Work Episodes

Where work is heading and who gets left behind. Remote and hybrid norms, the four-day week, and the evolution of what a job looks like.
Oct. 2, 2025

Navigating AI Adoption in HR: From Shiny Tools to Meaningful Workforce Planning w/ Sarah & Sofia

Ready to transform your HR strategy for the future of work? In this episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast, host Katee Van Horn sits down with Sophia Whelan and Sarah Smart, co-founders of Horizon Human, for an honest, insightful discussion about the evolving landscape of HR and Talent Acquisition in the age of AI.

Sophia and Sarah bring their expertise from top global organizations to break down how HR can drive trust, equity, and innovation—without falling for every "shiny" tech object. Discover...
Sept. 24, 2025

HR Tech 2025: The Future of Retention Through Peer-Driven Recognition with Curtis Forbes

🎸 How can we make EVERYONE feel seen at work—while actually driving retention and business results? On this episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast, Katee Van Horn sits down with the dynamic Curtis Forbes (he/him)—former jazz musician, serial entrepreneur, and founder of Mustard Hub—to jam about transforming workplace culture, recognition, and DEI through tech.

Curtis shares his unique journey from the jazz stage to launching an AI-powered employee engagement platform and dives into:
- What it mean...
March 6, 2025

Getting Inclusive AF with Katee and Jackye - Episode 145

Join Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn in Episode 145 of The Inclusive AF Podcast as they dive deep into the implications of HR 899, a bill aimed at dismantling the Department of Education in the United States. In this enlightening episode, they discuss the wide-ranging effects it could have on workforce development, corporate training, and marginalized communities. If you're passionate about education, politics, and inclusivity, this episode is a must-listen. Understand how potential changes co...
Oct. 16, 2024

Getting Inclusive AF with Katee & Jackye

Welcome to another empowering episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast with hosts Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton! 🌍✨ In this episode, Katee and Jackye dive deep into the importance of evolving our beliefs when faced with new information. They reflect on past misconceptions (hello, fat-free diets!) and emphasize the value of continuous learning, especially in diversity work.


Hear personal anecdotes, including a humorous mix-up with cold hollandaise sauce, and thought-provoking discussions on the...
Sept. 4, 2024

Getting Inclusive AF with Brittany S. Hale

Join us for an insightful episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast as we explore the evolving landscape of organizational culture with special guest Brittany S. Hale. Discover how COVID and racial reckoning have impacted workplace dynamics, leadership styles, and the intersection of gender and conflict resolution. Gain valuable insights on DEIB, leadership crisis, conflict management, and the power dynamics within organizations. Plus, enjoy lighthearted banter and personal reflections from our hosts....
Aug. 13, 2024

Getting Inclusive AF with Lindiwe Davis

Lindiwe Davis, also known as Lynn, is a seasoned professional with over 26 years of experience in corporate America. With a background in marketing, tech, media, and digital creative industries, Lindiwe has worked in program management, business operations strategy, and is known for her tactical expertise. Currently, she is thriving in the tech space and finds it to be an interesting and dynamic industry. Lindiwe's 30 years of work experience have given her a wealth of knowledge and insight acro...
Dec. 13, 2023

Getting Inclusive AF with Sarah Reynolds

In this episode, Katee chats with Sarah Reynolds. Sarah is an award-winning B2B SaaS marketing expert and proud architect of high-performing teams. A committed advocate for inclusive, people-centric growth strategies, Sarah has over 10 years’ of experience shaping & leading global marketing programs that deliver transformative results for modern companies.

Before joining HiBob, Sarah was Chief Marketing Officer at Udacity, where they led global brand, marketing and communications. Previously, t...
Aug. 9, 2023

Getting Inclusive AF with Nani Vishwanath

In this thought-provoking episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast, join guest speaker Nani Vishwanath as she delves into the future of work and its impact on diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI). From hybrid and remote work arrangements to the need for purposeful in-person interactions, Nani breaks down the importance of considering the unique needs of individuals with various identities. Discover the research-backed benefits of remote work for people of color and gain insights on creating a cultu...
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April 20, 2023

Getting Inclusive AF with Meisha-Ann Martin

Dr. Meisha-ann Martin is the Senior Director of People Analytics & Research, at Workhuman - peer-to-peer employee recognition company. Workhuman has just released new data from its latest Human Workplace Index, which dives into how employees are feeling ahead of EOY performance reviews and amidst economic and political turbulence. Dr. Meisha-ann can help decode the meaning behind the numbers to get a pulse on how we are feeling in today’s workplace, especially after the heated midterm elections....
April 6, 2023

Getting Inclusive AF with Enrique Rubio

In this episode Jackye and Katee talk to Enrique Rubiio. Enrique is an HR, Tech and Future of Work expert, keynote speaker and founder of Hacking HR, a global learning community at the intersection of future of work, technology, business and organizations, with thousands of members of all over the world. Enrique is one of the top 100 HR global influencers. He was the founder and CEO at Management Consultants, a firm specializing in Human Resources in Venezuela. Before Management Consultants, Enr...
Oct. 5, 2022

Getting Inclusive AF with Maya Huber

In this episode, Katee and Jackye speak with Maya Huber, the CEO & co-founder of TaTiO. She holds a PhD in occupational therapy, with main expertise in the fields of job analysis and the future of work. Maya has 15 years of practical and research experience managing HR companies focusing on work inclusion of vulnerable population groups.

Maya worked in the HR industry for years and met thousands of job seekers and recruiters who struggled for a good match, making it clear that a change had to b...
Guest: Maya Huber
July 7, 2022

Beyonce and What's for Dinner!

This episode is dedicated entirely to Beyonce's new song and whether Jackye is having Whataburger for dinner. We talk through "Break My Soul" and why it is what every person needs to hear right now.

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June 23, 2022

Layoffs and How to Recover

In this episode, Jackye and Katee discuss coming back to the office and why it impacts marginalized groups. And ask the overarching question of WHY?

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June 16, 2022

Return to the Office- No, But Thank You for Asking

In this episode, Jackye and Katee discuss coming back to the office and why it impacts marginalized groups. And ask the overarching question of WHY?

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April 20, 2022

Inclusive AF Retreat aka: AZ Eat-A-Thon

In this episode, we discuss a few things that we can only talk about when we are together. Different spaces and together- how do we help others?

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Jan. 13, 2022

Happy New Year with Inclusive AF

Jackye and Katee are back in the mix and having some conversations on what we hope this new year brings for us and for you! Welcome to 2022!!

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Jan. 27, 2021

Do You Goal Set?

Jackye and Katee talk about setting goals in 2021. Should we?! Dare we?! As Katee talks about her goals, Jackye develops hers- whether she wants to or not! In this episode you will learn some tools to set your goals. We talk about taking action once your...