Episode 126: Podcasting Power Rangers

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Adam Curry: podcasting 2.0 for
March 17 2023, episode 126 We're

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podcasting Power Rangers. Hello
everybody. Welcome once again to

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your weekly board meeting for
podcasting 2.0. We are the

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firewalls of Big Bang contagion,
protecting you from everything

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back. And of course, protecting
and extending podcasts, you can

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all happen to hear what's going
on with the namespace, what's

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happening in podcasts index.org
Or even where it all happens

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podcast index dot social. I'm
Adam curry here in the heart of

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the Texas Hill Country. And in
Alabama, the only man who can

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resolve your good say hello to
my friend on the other end,

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ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Dave
Jones.

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Dave Jones: This this will be an
interesting show and going to

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have taken the challenge of
trying to keep all the

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background noise from have a
full house of people here.

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Adam Curry: Oh, no, I can even
tell you're talking a little

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softer than usual, which is kind
of heard. Yeah. And yeah. Crank

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it up, bro. Talk like you mean.

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Dave Jones: No, no, it's not.
That's not even temporary. What

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you're hearing is the fact that
I'm sick again.

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Adam Curry: Oh, no. Yeah, again,
this is like, Are you kidding

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me? Sorry, sorry. Just

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Dave Jones: last week. On the
show. I mentioned that I was

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working from home so I could
take care of my daughter right

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who was sick. Right? Well, of
course she gave a now yeah, when

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she got you know,

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Adam Curry: I'm sorry. Is it
like a dry throat or what is

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yeah, this is the thing.
Everybody got it? Podcast

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Movement, contagion. I think
it's what it was called. Wasn't

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podcast, no Podcast Movement,
congestion. I can't remember it

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was the name of the p&g PMC
podcast contagion. What was

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Podcast Movement? What was it? I
don't know in Vegas. Apparently

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everybody got sick.

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Dave Jones: Oh, really? Oh, say
hey, Pat. They passed around

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this. Oh, this is like, what
comes after Omicron

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Adam Curry: Oh, no, they gave up
on that a long time. No, they

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kept cracking they had crack and
all of a

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Dave Jones: sudden oh, yes. Baby
cracking this with this rack.

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And this feels like baby this
feels like baby crack. And it's

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like, it's just it's not like it
doesn't like destroy you and

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like bring you to your knees.
Yeah, but it really it brings

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you down to like, where your
hands on hips and like, like,

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I'm really tired of this really
tired overall.

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Adam Curry: Now you're you're
normally just a sickly guy. So

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let me ask your question, Danny
to tidy tip of podcasting.

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Before COVID Would you get this
type of stuff regularly on a

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regular basis like like a flu or
something a couple times a year?

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Dave Jones: I have a standing
date every year with a sinus

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infection. Okay, it's just I
mean this is always in January

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or February this happens
sometimes late December okay

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I've got the was a cold day
deviated septum

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Adam Curry: Oh from all the coke
you did as a kid holy crazy

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rotted it

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Dave Jones: out yes. Oh yes.
Yes. All the partying has left

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me deaf and with a damn with no
nose blockage or whatever. But

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Adam Curry: hey, the index is
running really fast. Okay, now

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you can have that corrected.
Can't you deviated septum?

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Dave Jones: I think you can I
don't think I talked to the end

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doc about it a few years ago.
And he's like, you're he's like

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you're just gonna have you're
just gonna have this he's like,

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this is your life and until I'm
sorry. So I mean,

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Adam Curry: of course you know,
you know I'm from I spent a lot

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of time in South Jersey. So we
just laugh about this stuff.

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There's no other way to to
handle it. I forgot I don't know

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what to say.

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Dave Jones: Stephen basic. Do
you know seasonal cold cold

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stroke and heart attacks.

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Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, that's
right. We're all gonna die.

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Everybody is scared to death
now. Right off the bat Dred

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Scott.

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Unknown: Shot Carla 20 blades on
am Paula free

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Adam Curry: boosting us 121,212
SATs 121212 And what I'm afraid

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of is the drum at this point is
you know is living in a trailer.

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His kids got no shoes.

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Dave Jones: Yeah. This is
mortgage payment. Nothing.

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Adam Curry: Trailer. Nothing
against trailers. By the way. I

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don't mean it that way. But I
just really have a feeling like

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man, is he boosting energy? Just
test 12,000 SATs want to want to

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just attach drug tests to my pom
just throw it throw a tenner

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your way. believable?
Unbelievable.

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Dave Jones: I mean, I was gonna
say boost the dip last week but

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there is no dip.

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Adam Curry: Dip is not happening
baby. The dip is not happening.

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We are of course, lit which
means we're live and if you have

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one of those handy dandy apps
that does it all, which is pod

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verse and podcast addict at this
point, although you can go

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Certainly listening on curio
caster then you were alerted and

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you got dumped right and when
you clicked on it you got dumped

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right into a special little
episode there which is live you

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hear the stream you can log into
the chat and of course you can

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boost us

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Dave Jones: and you may not even
know where you are you may have

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just tap the button and had no
idea what's happened. No idea

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Adam Curry: what's going on.
Exactly. And actually, I there's

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something pretty big, actually,
like a huge let me put it this

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way. Everyone's huge.
Everybody's all my Oh, hold on a

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second. We got something really
big we're gonna have so big

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dropkick with All right. Can I
can I make it any more clear?

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This is big.

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Dave Jones: This is really big
Jesus almighty.

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Adam Curry: Everyone's always
talking about how do we promote

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podcasting to point out we got
to promote the value for value.

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We got to get out we got to do
more. We needed a better

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website. Okay. Couple things
happened this week. So big, big

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news and two things happened
concurrently. Now I was

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listening to NMS and P WR

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Dave Jones: he's a my a new
media show and podcast podcast

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weekly review

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Adam Curry: pod news weekly
review. I put in a package pod

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news weekly review, isn't it?

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Dave Jones: As a podcast, so I'm
guest Sudafed brain.

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Adam Curry: Okay. That's what
they're calling it these days.

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I'll shoot

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Dave Jones: this as listening to
the what you're playing some

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clips of like the people
describing I think there's only

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an A you're playing some clips
of people describing the feeling

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of being on like,

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Adam Curry: oh, no, no, no, the
Adderall, Adderall and Vyvanse.

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Dave Jones: that's that's what I
feel. I feel like the median.

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Like, whatever that is speed.

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Adam Curry: Yeah, no, it's not
for me. I'll

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Dave Jones: tell you that. My
Sudafed is basically math right.

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Adam Curry: Sudafed is method
slows you down? Does it make you

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speedy? I guess it does make you
speedy.

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Dave Jones: It makes my brain
Yeah, makes me have Sudafed.

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very underrated. Oh, please,
please.

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Adam Curry: No, no, it's okay. I
mean, this is a human interest

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segment. I like that it is. So
first I'm listening to the new

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media show. And right out of the
blue after Podcast Movement

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contagion. We've got Rob
Greenlee quitting pod bean after

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Dave Jones: three months. Yes,
that was a quick that was a

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quickie.

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Adam Curry: And you know, and no
one's explained to me, I don't

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need to know. But no one's
explained to me what happened?

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Which I which is just I'm always
like, ah, that's kind of weird.

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Did you know the way it's being
played I'm fine with this Rob

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wants to be independent.
Perfect.

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Dave Jones: It was basically
just an achievement that he

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needed like he needed to get to
get like the badge for his how

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many companies did to been at
all the all the Hong Kong

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podcast hosting companies right
needed that one left to fill out

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his trophy room?

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Adam Curry: Yes. I think the
running joke is Buzzsprout has

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given him a one day contract,
shall we? So he has the full

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gamut. So we have every single
podcast company. He's a podcast

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host till we start so he starts
his consultancy pod easy.com.

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That's podcast easy.com SciShow.
Podcast easy podcast, eco Zulu

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podcast as in Spain. podcast is
dukkah. So interesting. He has a

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Sennheiser 421 On the homepage,
which kind of tickled me says

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Now it's time to start your
podcast. And so best in podcasts

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best in class, podcast,
consulting, and surfaces No

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matter your level, we've got you
covered and he's got I don't

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know if it's just him or more
people but as a team and all

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kinds of stuff. And it seems
like that kind of like is his

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signature services. We've got
rock the mic, audio only podcast

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service subscription, dropped
the mic audio and video podcast

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service subscription and just
speak, which is the Khan shares

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podcast subscription service.
Now what I'm missing here is

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what I think is a huge
opportunity and I'm going to

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prove it. So this is for Rob and
for any other people who want to

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be independent independent
podcast consultants, who can

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work with any podcast hosting
company of course,

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Dave Jones: I like those
different levels by the way the

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drop in Michael

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Adam Curry: very good name. So
he's a marketing guy right off

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the bat. We know this of course,
we know we're our longtime I

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would recommend a fourth
category which would just be

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your V four v. And I would
recommend that you have a level

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where you set people up value
for value, help them with a

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wallet, get everything all set
up, help them with their pitch,

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help them with the feedback loop
help them understand booster

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grams and charge nothing to
maybe a minor fee up front, just

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you know, whatever. Take 35% of
the split of the value block in

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perpetuity. If you can, or you
know what, whatever you're, you

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know, oh, we'll do a five year
contract, whatever you want it

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to be whatever you want it to
be. And I don't think Rob is

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that is all that I mean, he
understands of course value for

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value. I don't think he's really
looked into it that deeply. He

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doesn't have a wallet, for
instance. So I heard Todd was

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going to get him set up. This is
an annuity that you will not

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regret. I'm telling you, you
will not regret doing this no

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matter what else you do. And
some of these levels are pretty

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pricey. But you could you could
do a hybrid model, do this. This

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will. This is long term wealth
building for Rob Greenlee. And I

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have your first client, and it's
a doozy and it's going to blow

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you away. What an opportunity.
This is. The Obamas No, no. So

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I'm listening to P WR. Power FM.
I was listening to pod news

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weekly review. And Sam Sethi is
not on the show. He's off skiing

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and kids pool, probably with Roy
from breeze. I don't know these

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guys, you know, Kevin just gets
booed in Switzerland. I'm

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Unknown: going to be doing a
deal of some sorts.

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Adam Curry: So James has a has a
guest host, Courtney Kocak

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Kocak, I think is her name. Now
Courtney Kocak, who had not

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heard of before. She's no
slouch. She's let me say I got

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her website here. She's based in
Los Angeles. She's comedian

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she's written for. I think
Washington Post's variety in Los

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Angeles Times Cosmo. Yeah,
she's, she's got something going

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on.

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Dave Jones: She made a hooker
joke, which instantly was I was

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I was a fan of her. So this is
great. Yeah,

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Adam Curry: exactly. So you
heard the you heard the show?

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Fantastic.

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Dave Jones: I'm a little bit
into it.

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Adam Curry: So I'll I'll just
put, you know, she was talking

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about social because a certain
point James very correctly

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starts to interview her about
herself. And she makes this

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joke. And I'm listening in bed
with, you know, with one ear,

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because you know, Tina was
already asleep. She saw on logs.

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I'm like, I'm just kind of
listening, see if I'm gonna fall

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asleep or not. It's something
that that I don't typically do.

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But the show came out later than
normal for me. So I still wanted

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to hear to know what's going on
in podcasting that we can

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review, which is what the show
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Dave Jones: It does surprise me
that you were listening in bed.

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I didn't think that was your
style.

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Adam Curry: It's not my style at
all. So all of these have wine.

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No, no, no, nothing. No, this is
this is the Lord's work, ma'am.

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Because otherwise I would not
have known this. I'm telling

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you, and this is going to
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Courtney, it's going to benefit.
Rob Greenlee is going to benefit

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podcasting to point out. So this
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she's they're talking about her
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why I think they added that line
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to DM people, topless photos of
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I really don't think that is the
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Adam Curry: Wow. Wowzers Wowzers
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visualize this immediately. So
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Courtney, what else you got? So
James, listen, accomplished.

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Good show. So James, now that
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how incorrect it is. So James is
now going to talk about her

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podcast, which is titled Private
Parts Unknown. And for whatever

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reason, it's a British thing. I
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thing. You can't really describe
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bad. Yeah, this is your this is
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podcast. Yes. It's a podcast
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write about in pod news. But
obviously I'd like everybody

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that works in boring corporate
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newsletter and so therefore, we
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about what the podcast was
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that podcast about private

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Adam Curry: hello. You have my
attention all the way. No, no,

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like, Okay, this is interesting.
And ask

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Dave Jones: you soup says two
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Adam Curry: She's actually she's
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just picked the first 25 sec is
not even her show. It's the

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first 25 seconds of her podcast,
where she's promoting another

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podcast on the network, but you
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Unknown: Hello, privates before
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want to turn you on to a very
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Podcast Network. It is the horny
housewife baby and Jordan is the

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host. She's talking about all
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you know, I'm in a long term
relationship. I know what's up.

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Adam Curry: Boom, boom shot.
Now, now comes the outcomes the

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kicker, the beauty beauty beauty
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Unknown: can you explain to me
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listening to your show a lot
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And I am like, really excited
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You know, Xeni Tell me about it
and and I'm not a techie like am

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I going to know how to set this
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don't have a bunch of people
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will they want to give me stats
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Dave Jones: They're gonna want
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Adam Curry: so James falls down
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like that and like No, no, no,
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Ms. Kocak is primed and ready to
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go live. This would blow V for V
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water. Rob Greenlee your mission
is clear. Should you choose to

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accept it get in contact with
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fixed the get the live streaming
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Dave Jones: if you think booster
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segment is good on a regular
show. Are you kidding me?

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Booster gram on on horny
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Adam Curry: Well, that's the
private parts are known as her

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podcast. Okay, but either one.
The whole network could benefit

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this is my fans live streaming
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live whatever doesn't matter. If
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this. I don't go running after
talent anymore. I just don't

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have I did it all my life
running after talent for

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interviews running for networks,
all this stuff. I'm not going to

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do it. But I'm I would like to
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opportunity.

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Dave Jones: As well as I don't
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dot A longtime listener first
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Adam Curry: empty now. And as
the interview progressed, she

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even intuitively understood the
numerology. She's like, Oh,

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that's cool. You know, rove
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she finds out you know, the 808
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she it's ready. So somebody
please I want it to be Rob

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Greenlee because this would this
would give him a lot. This will

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give you job security. My
friend. Set this podcaster up.

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Dave Jones: This is a fantastic
idea. This is you giving this is

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you giving away free money. Free
money. Yes. Free money. Yes.

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Adam Curry: I mean, the old
Adam. Before I was saved by

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Jesus Christ would have
immediately gone after this.

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you know, the index would have

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done it and you know, but I I
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other people to win with this
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prime. Even Roy Roy would
probably want to do this. He's

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been talking about that for a
long time. He's been wanting to

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do only fans on breeze forever.

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Dave Jones: This is a fantastic
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Adam Curry: I mean, this is what
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did listen, it's you know, it's
more about relationships. Sure.

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It's not it's not all me it's
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talks about abortions and you
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don't know if I'm even
interested in. But I can tell

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that the vibe is there the vibe
that you want. She clearly has

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an audience. So let's go
especially now that I heard in

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the same new media show that it
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on ads. Which is that sad

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Dave Jones: That's not just on
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you've noticed, but there's
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really weird to. Oh, I think
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Adam Curry: interesting. Well,
that was another thing that this

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whole week and you and I are
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Butoh video, YouTube, YouTube,
YouTube video, YouTube. Yeah. If

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I can just set you up. I have
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through the cycle of trying to
make a network work, it doesn't

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work, you can't monetize the
network. And then and we had VC

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money. We had millions of
dollars to do this with Oh,

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YouTube is what it's as where
it's out. Oh, yeah, YouTube,

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let's do video. And we could
have not made a worse choice.

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think you had a boost into new
media show about it. You said

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something interesting. I can't
remember exactly what it was. It

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was about. Do you remember?

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Dave Jones: Oh, now I was
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podcasting. And in YouTube, like
everybody always says that

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YouTube is the is the biggest
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it's just, that always irritates
me, because it's like, no other

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media gets conflated like that.
Because you would not say that

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because? Well, who is that? Who
is the guy that he's the radio

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guy that used to wear the cowboy
hat? Oh, Don Imus, Donna. Yeah.

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Nobody will say that. Because
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simulcast video on on Dish
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the biggest radio market. It's
like, it doesn't make any sense.

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Just because somebody is on
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it's like, it's just a well, how
about I consider it a dumb

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Adam Curry: isn't enough with
your surveys and your data, I

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don't care. I just It goes right
over my head. You can slice and

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dice to stuff any way you want.
Podcasting has been around for a

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long time. It'll be around with
us for a long time. All the

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benefits are known, the
decentralized nature of it is

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incredibly beneficial. You know,
YouTube is, in fact, it's almost

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like, let's talk about a bank
failure, because that actually

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causes a bank failure. I mean,
are run on the banks, it's like,

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oh, no, it's Everything's bad.
Oh, that that's how runtime but

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Jason Calacanis looking at you
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Dave Jones: Well, that's, you
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that. KPMG, you know, because
I'm in the accounting world KPMG

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came as, see these things. KPMG
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stand behind our assessment of
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and Signature Bank, they audited
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signed off on the audits like,
like within them within like two

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or three weeks of the of them
both. Okay, mountains, like I

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know, when we stand behind our
numbers, well, the discussion

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was about whether or not there's
this certain thing that you can

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tag them with, in an in a
financial audit, you can say, in

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there, there's two things
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going concern. Notice more,
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hey, this thing's really shaky.
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disputed something anyways, it's
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big the big hit, I guess, KPMG
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they label them as a, you know,
with a going concern? Warning?

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know, this is like the thing
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Heisenberg uncertainty
principle. Where is it a good

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thing, I think, if I'm not
mistaken, that's like, you

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affect you affect the thing
you're observing simply by

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observing it. By the outcome,
the outcome under observation is

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different than the outcome when
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has an influence on the thing
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never so you actually can't
observe it and get a real and

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get a real outcome. So that's
the same thing with this. If you

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put a going concern morning, on
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you're going to cause a bank
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survive a bank run. You can't
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because then they won't survive
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Adam Curry: Exactly. Exactly.
Well, so this thing this this,

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this is what's going on, I think
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nothing better to talk about,
and also how long you're gonna

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be Charlie Brown for Lucy's
football. Game Stop, stop. This

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is the definition of insanity.
Every single time Silicon Valley

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says jump or the podcast
industrial complexes jump,

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everyone goes, how high? What do
you want me to do all integrate

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with you right away? And then
they burn everybody. They don't

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care? No, you're not here, okay.

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Dave Jones: But the subtle shift
in YouTube Advertising though in

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YouTube ad load is it's
noticeable. But you're you're

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starting to get, you'll get the
first you'll get the first ad

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break in, it'll be loaded up
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a video with like five or six ad

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breaks in it. The second run the
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one, and then maybe one on the
third slot, and then it's just,

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it's nothing from then on out.
Right. And that's new. That's

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very it to me, that's very new.
Because if you go back four

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months ago, you're getting,
you're getting ad slots full

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every time. So something has
definitely changed that I'd

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think I've been listening to do
you know, Jeffery Snyder, you

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know, that guy?

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Adam Curry: Should I? I'm not
sure should I know Jeffery

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Snyder,

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Dave Jones: he runs a outfit
called Eurodollar University. No

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came up through the if I'm not
mistaken, he came up to the

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Mises Institute and he's, you
know, he's an Austrian. But

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he's, he's one of those that
he's his methodology is to is to

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monitor the Euro dollar market.
Okay. He's got a lot like, which

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I think is a genius way to look
at things because the Eurodollar

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market has probably the biggest
influence on the economy, way

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bigger than fed rates in
anything like that. But here's

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the thing that never gets talked
about. So he's been saying that

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the economy is softening,
likening this, he's likening

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what's going on right now to the
2007 2008. We're gonna, we're

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going to have a 2007 2008 style
crisis. It's not going to be

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exactly the same, but we're
going to have the same Meccan

436
00:27:11,940 --> 00:27:14,130
like the same mechanics or at
work.

437
00:27:14,220 --> 00:27:17,670
Adam Curry: Oh, especially with
Credit Suisse. And now the

438
00:27:17,670 --> 00:27:22,260
derivatives and the swap line
our Federal Reserve has with the

439
00:27:22,260 --> 00:27:25,980
Swiss Swiss central bank
specifically for Credit Suisse.

440
00:27:26,070 --> 00:27:28,410
Now this is all integrated and
connected.

441
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,310
Dave Jones: Now you brought
horny housewives. I brought

442
00:27:32,310 --> 00:27:34,350
Janet Yellen. Oh, it's the
antidote.

443
00:27:35,730 --> 00:27:39,630
Adam Curry: Yes, but wait before
you go there. Okay. Can I just

444
00:27:39,630 --> 00:27:40,590
say something about

445
00:27:41,220 --> 00:27:43,410
Dave Jones: the ad market? Oh,
please do.

446
00:27:44,460 --> 00:27:49,110
Adam Curry: So two things one,
as as already discussed on this

447
00:27:49,110 --> 00:27:53,790
show, and others. This came out
from the specialist website

448
00:27:53,790 --> 00:27:59,310
search engine land.com. And this
came up March 9, Tik Tok enters

449
00:27:59,310 --> 00:28:02,730
the search ad market challenging
Google and Microsoft, which is

450
00:28:02,730 --> 00:28:08,370
exactly what my sister told us
in her thesis. Yikes for her

451
00:28:08,370 --> 00:28:16,020
Master's. She said that one in
two users of Google and and tick

452
00:28:16,020 --> 00:28:20,460
tock go to tick tock first to
search for something. So this is

453
00:28:20,460 --> 00:28:28,440
a big a big Yikes. Big big
Yikes. Second, I got just as one

454
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:34,530
of the many emails I've
received. Of course, I'm going

455
00:28:34,530 --> 00:28:38,670
to I manage a global I manage
global brand ads on social media

456
00:28:38,670 --> 00:28:41,760
for a large tech manufacturer
that is very active on tick tock

457
00:28:42,570 --> 00:28:44,610
I'm also responsible for
governance and best best

458
00:28:44,610 --> 00:28:47,880
practices etc. So it's a lot of
it's about you know, what may or

459
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,300
may not happen, which is not
interested in this context. But

460
00:28:51,300 --> 00:28:55,080
he says we've shifted nearly
half of our brands social ad

461
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:59,670
budget to tick tock over the
last year Google and E commerce

462
00:28:59,670 --> 00:29:04,200
and other ads are also shifting
a lot of budget that way. So

463
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,340
well, this is what's going on
with the ad market which is

464
00:29:08,370 --> 00:29:13,680
already soft, significantly
soft, it's being taken away by

465
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:18,270
one company. And if you think
for a second that Google gives a

466
00:29:18,270 --> 00:29:23,310
crap about podcasting on
YouTube, dude, they're even

467
00:29:23,310 --> 00:29:27,630
cutting people's benefits who
were supposed to have a

468
00:29:27,630 --> 00:29:31,980
maternity benefits there. I
mean, this is all hands on deck.

469
00:29:32,190 --> 00:29:33,810
You know DEF CON one.

470
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,370
Dave Jones: Well, they they did
you sell 10,000 more layoffs at

471
00:29:38,370 --> 00:29:39,960
Facebook right? Yeah, of course.

472
00:29:40,620 --> 00:29:42,570
Adam Curry: And by the way,
three days ago, we don't hear

473
00:29:42,570 --> 00:29:48,000
anything about meta now do we?
Right now. And and here's here's

474
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:54,330
the biggest joke. This AI chat
GPT that everybody is throwing

475
00:29:54,330 --> 00:30:01,860
into their into their product is
very expensive. They have no way

476
00:30:01,860 --> 00:30:04,020
to offset this cost to do it for
free.

477
00:30:05,100 --> 00:30:09,300
Dave Jones: Is it still like in
GPT? four or three? Is it still

478
00:30:09,300 --> 00:30:13,560
like something like a million
dollars a day to run? It? Does?

479
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,720
That's the net? That's the
number I saw floating around at

480
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:15,900
once.

481
00:30:16,020 --> 00:30:19,620
Adam Curry: I think it's higher
than that. I mean, you're

482
00:30:19,620 --> 00:30:25,860
talking $10,000 Nvidia ASICs
that have to do this stuff. I

483
00:30:25,860 --> 00:30:29,160
mean, this is not just, you
know, throw up a couple of in

484
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:35,280
fact that they run a lot of it
is AWS EC two instances,

485
00:30:35,730 --> 00:30:37,110
spinning up or whatever

486
00:30:37,290 --> 00:30:39,720
Dave Jones: it is, these days,
those things are not cheap, and

487
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:40,920
no, no less.

488
00:30:40,950 --> 00:30:43,980
Adam Curry: And, and so they're
spinning up all this stuff. And

489
00:30:43,980 --> 00:30:47,070
you can see it slowing down to
No, no, no, this is very

490
00:30:47,070 --> 00:30:52,770
expensive. They solved the
YouTube cost by literally buying

491
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,620
ASICs, I've learned all this
from Alex gates, actually, by

492
00:30:55,620 --> 00:31:01,410
buying ASICs that do video
encoding specifically. So you

493
00:31:01,410 --> 00:31:04,590
know, now you've got to swap
everything out or add to it to

494
00:31:04,620 --> 00:31:08,850
do chat. GPT just because it's
everyone else is doing it.

495
00:31:08,940 --> 00:31:12,480
Meanwhile, tick tock is eating
everybody's lunch, get off with

496
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,770
people stick with podcasting,
support your app developers

497
00:31:16,980 --> 00:31:21,090
support podcast, apps.com, keep
it going, we've got we've got

498
00:31:21,090 --> 00:31:25,200
momentum, we've got the hip kids
doing it, and pretty soon

499
00:31:25,230 --> 00:31:32,820
smartcast. So it's well worth
Steady as she goes, I would say

500
00:31:32,820 --> 00:31:36,480
Steady as she goes, Don't be
jumping left and right. Because

501
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,710
YouTube says something, they're
in trouble over there. Let them

502
00:31:40,740 --> 00:31:44,730
you know, give let them mess
with their own rope. Is my

503
00:31:44,730 --> 00:31:45,270
advice.

504
00:31:46,350 --> 00:31:48,630
Dave Jones: Yeah, I think this
the I think this is perfect

505
00:31:48,630 --> 00:31:54,630
advice. Because you get this is
the this is the the sort of

506
00:31:54,630 --> 00:31:58,770
safety valve of a down
advertising market. If you you

507
00:31:58,770 --> 00:32:00,570
know, subscriptions,

508
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,390
Adam Curry: I like that safety
valve of the down advertising

509
00:32:03,390 --> 00:32:04,170
market. Nice.

510
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,290
Dave Jones: Yeah, this bridge,
this bridge is you through? I

511
00:32:07,290 --> 00:32:09,990
mean, neither me or you would
ever say that advertising is bad

512
00:32:10,020 --> 00:32:14,730
go away. It's just that you
can't, you can't

513
00:32:15,270 --> 00:32:16,980
Adam Curry: squeeze blood from a
stone.

514
00:32:17,250 --> 00:32:21,270
Dave Jones: Yeah, ideologically,
it has downsides and certain for

515
00:32:21,270 --> 00:32:25,530
certain for certain material. I
mean, like ours, for instance,

516
00:32:25,530 --> 00:32:28,980
you can't, we wouldn't be able
to say what we wanted to say

517
00:32:28,980 --> 00:32:31,800
without without being free from
the influence of advertising.

518
00:32:32,130 --> 00:32:35,250
But then, but then there's also
that the the other aspect of it,

519
00:32:35,250 --> 00:32:38,130
where it goes up and down is
civil is cyclical, you're gonna

520
00:32:38,130 --> 00:32:40,470
have up you're gonna, you know,
you're gonna have huge drop

521
00:32:40,470 --> 00:32:43,470
offs. Well, in order to be able
to weather that storm, he really

522
00:32:43,470 --> 00:32:46,470
you really need, some people
have done it with subscriptions.

523
00:32:46,950 --> 00:32:49,050
As you know, value for value is

524
00:32:49,350 --> 00:32:51,300
Adam Curry: better. Well,
here's, here's, here's the one

525
00:32:51,300 --> 00:32:54,420
thing I can promise everybody,
if you want to stick it out,

526
00:32:55,410 --> 00:32:59,250
it'll be about a year and a
half, maybe a little bit less,

527
00:32:59,340 --> 00:33:03,150
because 24 in the US only, by
the way, this doesn't work for

528
00:33:03,150 --> 00:33:07,770
any anywhere else in the world.
It will be an election year. So

529
00:33:07,830 --> 00:33:12,390
$17 billion will flow in, you
know, maybe a little less, maybe

530
00:33:12,390 --> 00:33:17,880
a little more into mainly local
advertising, very specifically

531
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,960
geo located geotargeted. That's
where I think Facebook meta

532
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:26,550
shines. But that's a long haul
before that money really starts

533
00:33:26,550 --> 00:33:29,760
to come out and and who knows
how much money will we even have

534
00:33:29,820 --> 00:33:32,310
money? I mean, right now,

535
00:33:32,730 --> 00:33:34,980
Dave Jones: we will not a lot of
that skill. Not a lot of that is

536
00:33:34,980 --> 00:33:36,030
going into podcasting.

537
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,940
Adam Curry: I don't think so
either. Although, you know,

538
00:33:38,940 --> 00:33:43,500
maybe hosted ads or whatever.
Yeah. But also the cheap money

539
00:33:43,500 --> 00:33:45,960
as we've discussed is over
that's that's what the big

540
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:50,130
problem is here is the interest
rates will raise quickly. You

541
00:33:50,130 --> 00:33:54,180
know, free money is over anyway,
a big lead in to the antidote

542
00:33:54,180 --> 00:33:57,150
for the for the honey Money,
money, honey cast, somebody

543
00:33:57,150 --> 00:34:00,420
cast, what is it called the way
they call? I want to get it

544
00:34:00,420 --> 00:34:00,840
right. It's

545
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,200
Dave Jones: the private part,
the private, private parts. Not

546
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:05,400
that something Oh, not private

547
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:09,780
Adam Curry: parts. It's prime to
private and Private Parts

548
00:34:09,810 --> 00:34:12,840
Unknown, private person, link in
the show notes link in the show.

549
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,200
Okay, so we just got all messed
up by private parts unknown.

550
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:17,430
Here's Janet Yellen.

551
00:34:17,550 --> 00:34:19,680
Dave Jones: Yeah, let me drag
you down to the basement, which

552
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:26,040
absolutely no excitement. Yeah,
so this is this is Janet Yellen

553
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:30,810
at the, you know, testifying
before Congress. And I just

554
00:34:30,810 --> 00:34:37,110
thought that this was a great
clip. Because it shows it's not

555
00:34:37,650 --> 00:34:41,130
so. So the it's not what you
would exactly call smoke and

556
00:34:41,130 --> 00:34:47,850
mirrors the US money. The US
financial system leadership,

557
00:34:48,390 --> 00:34:52,320
because what they do actually
does have an effect. You know,

558
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,020
when they raise rates when they
when they tinker with rates up

559
00:34:55,020 --> 00:34:58,590
and down. Oh, yeah, sure. It
does have an effect. But the

560
00:34:58,590 --> 00:35:03,000
effect is not what they think it
Is In It takes a circuitous

561
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:09,300
route to actually get back to,
in order to have an effect on on

562
00:35:09,300 --> 00:35:12,510
the economy. And by the time it
made by the time it actually

563
00:35:12,510 --> 00:35:16,380
gets to the level of having an
effect, the effect is amplified.

564
00:35:16,380 --> 00:35:18,660
And it usually comes out in ways
they don't expect.

565
00:35:18,690 --> 00:35:21,300
Adam Curry: Because if I can
paraphrase the idea of raising

566
00:35:21,330 --> 00:35:28,170
interest rates is basically to
create higher unemployment.

567
00:35:29,190 --> 00:35:34,920
That's the metric that I keep
hearing the labor market. Well,

568
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,480
that's the end. Well, that's
what that's what they're looking

569
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,140
for. Well, we've got too many
jobs being created. Now we need

570
00:35:40,140 --> 00:35:44,880
to have unemployment needs to be
four or 5%. So they literally

571
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,840
want to destroy your job, which
in an odd way is kind of

572
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,110
happening. If you look at
Silicon Valley. It's not enough,

573
00:35:52,110 --> 00:35:53,220
but they would

574
00:35:53,220 --> 00:35:56,010
Dave Jones: call it they're
trying to affect a cooling of

575
00:35:56,010 --> 00:35:56,100
the

576
00:35:56,820 --> 00:36:00,450
Adam Curry: Yes, cool. Screw you
slave. means We don't get to

577
00:36:00,450 --> 00:36:04,560
work. It's cooling. We just want
to cool the economy's too hot

578
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,410
right now. Who wants to be too
hot? Okay, so

579
00:36:07,410 --> 00:36:09,870
Dave Jones: what we what we
learned from you know, what I've

580
00:36:09,930 --> 00:36:12,510
learned from another thing I've
learned from from the book,

581
00:36:12,510 --> 00:36:16,650
which led me to, to Jeffrey
Schneider, back to him and yeah,

582
00:36:16,650 --> 00:36:20,010
researching his material is
about the Euro dollar market.

583
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:27,450
Yeah, Okay, gotcha. The so the
Euro dollar, is, the Euro dollar

584
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:33,600
represents, in loose terms, all
the dollars around all the US

585
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:38,040
dollars around the world, that
are not counted in the money

586
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:44,250
supply, in the M one money
supply within the US. So if

587
00:36:44,250 --> 00:36:46,110
we're trying to target if we're
trying to measure the money

588
00:36:46,110 --> 00:36:49,200
supply, Target, there are
certain things about the money

589
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:53,190
supply, in order to affect
interest, this Eurodollar market

590
00:36:53,820 --> 00:36:57,780
represents effectively a giant
leak in the bottom of the ship.

591
00:36:58,350 --> 00:37:03,930
Money is flowing in and out
through this hole in the Feds

592
00:37:03,930 --> 00:37:08,670
control to international markets
in ways that they really cannot

593
00:37:08,670 --> 00:37:10,770
control. So that's basically,

594
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,800
Adam Curry: if I'm not mistaken,
can Euro banks, they can

595
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,330
actually create dollars, right?

596
00:37:16,110 --> 00:37:20,040
Dave Jones: Yeah, well, American
banks operating in international

597
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,880
markets can also participate in
in dollar creation,

598
00:37:23,910 --> 00:37:26,250
Adam Curry: literally, literally
counterfeiting, they're just

599
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:27,360
making money

600
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,170
Dave Jones: in the biggest Euro
dollar trading markets are in

601
00:37:31,170 --> 00:37:35,310
New York. So you can trade the
Euro dollar market in the US,

602
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,540
and the Fed has no control of it
over it. And it also does not

603
00:37:39,540 --> 00:37:44,010
show up in any of our any of the
money supply statistics. So the

604
00:37:44,010 --> 00:37:47,130
fact that they you know, when
you look at it that way, the

605
00:37:47,130 --> 00:37:50,700
tweaking up and down slight
tweaks up and down of life, half

606
00:37:50,700 --> 00:37:55,500
of basis via half a percent on
the federal funds rate, that

607
00:37:55,500 --> 00:37:59,370
really has no direct impact on
on hardly anything except local

608
00:37:59,430 --> 00:38:03,120
local banks, some some
mortgages, some short term

609
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:03,690
stuff, and all

610
00:38:03,690 --> 00:38:06,210
Adam Curry: mortgage, they're
really big have a big effect on

611
00:38:06,210 --> 00:38:08,850
mortgages and car loans and
stuff like that.

612
00:38:09,330 --> 00:38:13,530
Dave Jones: Well, then over over
time, so it's it's it tends to

613
00:38:13,530 --> 00:38:17,910
affect the middle, sort of like
the middle class of the banking

614
00:38:17,910 --> 00:38:20,580
system, which is mostly local.
They don't have the

615
00:38:20,580 --> 00:38:22,890
international presence like
Morgan and

616
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,230
Adam Curry: regional banks,
which I guess they would like to

617
00:38:25,230 --> 00:38:27,240
get rid of, because they're
doing a good job.

618
00:38:27,810 --> 00:38:32,040
Dave Jones: Well, let's listen
to the new the queen of

619
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:33,240
excitement. Janet Yellen.

620
00:38:33,540 --> 00:38:36,120
Adam Curry: Will the deposits
and every voice has gotten

621
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:40,320
really low? It is she's on
hormones. This is a senator or

622
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:41,520
congressman who is

623
00:38:41,610 --> 00:38:43,770
Dave Jones: this is a I don't
know if it's senator or

624
00:38:43,770 --> 00:38:46,770
congressman for it, but he's
representing Oklahoma

625
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,640
Unknown: will the deposits and
every community bank in Oklahoma

626
00:38:50,670 --> 00:38:54,840
regardless of their size, big,
fully insured now? Are they

627
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,900
fully recovered? Every bank,
every community bank in

628
00:38:57,900 --> 00:39:01,680
Oklahoma, regardless of the size
of the deposit? Will they get

629
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:06,510
the same treatment that SVB just
got or Signature Bank just got?

630
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,790
Adam Curry: This is an
interesting question. Because

631
00:39:09,810 --> 00:39:12,480
and, and I'm glad you're in
here, because you've studied

632
00:39:12,510 --> 00:39:16,020
you're studying it a little
deeper than I am these days. So

633
00:39:16,020 --> 00:39:21,120
from what I understand, they
magically I think they they

634
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,960
created like 300 $297 billion or
something. And this is the

635
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:30,210
backstop above and beyond the
$250,000 per depositor FDIC

636
00:39:30,210 --> 00:39:31,110
insurance.

637
00:39:32,310 --> 00:39:33,540
Dave Jones: Yeah, this is the
wish

638
00:39:33,630 --> 00:39:35,370
Adam Curry: we might have
partnered before I called not a

639
00:39:35,370 --> 00:39:36,930
bailout. Okay.

640
00:39:38,700 --> 00:39:41,910
Dave Jones: Well, I mean, take

641
00:39:42,779 --> 00:39:45,809
Adam Curry: technically it's not
a bailout but we created money

642
00:39:45,809 --> 00:39:47,099
to do it so

643
00:39:47,759 --> 00:39:52,079
Dave Jones: yeah, like that.
They supposedly the other banks

644
00:39:52,079 --> 00:39:54,959
bailing out this bank
essentially is what it is and

645
00:39:54,989 --> 00:39:58,349
but they did they do that but
what this guy calls a special a,

646
00:39:58,349 --> 00:40:02,399
quote, special assessment group.
Oh, yeah, so you get you get a

647
00:40:02,399 --> 00:40:06,719
spit, the FDIC makes a special
assessment on all of the all of

648
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:11,069
the banks in the banking system
as supposedly in order to bail

649
00:40:11,069 --> 00:40:15,059
out SVB. And so he makes a good
point about that, actually,

650
00:40:15,089 --> 00:40:15,509
okay.

651
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:20,940
Unknown: A bank only gets that
treatment. If a majority of the

652
00:40:20,940 --> 00:40:27,030
FDIC board a supermajority is
super majority of the Fed board,

653
00:40:27,270 --> 00:40:33,180
and I, in consultation with the
President, determine that the

654
00:40:33,180 --> 00:40:39,510
failure to protect uninsured
depositors would create systemic

655
00:40:39,510 --> 00:40:42,060
risk, and wow.

656
00:40:43,410 --> 00:40:44,340
Adam Curry: Wow.

657
00:40:44,549 --> 00:40:47,969
Dave Jones: So she, so it's a
super majority of the Fed board?

658
00:40:47,999 --> 00:40:51,899
Yeah, majority of the FDIC board
her and her

659
00:40:52,140 --> 00:40:55,050
Adam Curry: income concentration
with the brain dead guy in the

660
00:40:55,050 --> 00:40:56,190
white house. Okay.

661
00:40:56,220 --> 00:40:59,910
Dave Jones: Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So
so she plays Bob reticle role

662
00:41:00,420 --> 00:41:04,080
clearly plays a critical role in
this decision making process. So

663
00:41:04,470 --> 00:41:08,130
so obviously, she she would
understand fully all the answers

664
00:41:08,130 --> 00:41:09,330
to the questions

665
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,120
Adam Curry: while seeing a she's
the queen pin instead of the

666
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:16,200
king pin. Had she had she had
all pivots or is she? Any one of

667
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,660
those elements? could say no,
and I guess it doesn't happen.

668
00:41:18,660 --> 00:41:22,500
So it has to be past she has to
be today? Yes. I'm going to do

669
00:41:22,500 --> 00:41:23,550
that with the President.

670
00:41:24,150 --> 00:41:28,320
Dave Jones: Okay, in any in any
any bad, if any bad effects any

671
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:32,640
possible bad effects, you would
think Jen is she's gonna have

672
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:33,930
thought this through right.

673
00:41:34,799 --> 00:41:38,909
Adam Curry: I have to add to
this, that my friend, the former

674
00:41:38,909 --> 00:41:42,269
New York banker, who I have gone
to for financial information

675
00:41:42,269 --> 00:41:49,409
about the markets for 14 now 12
years, probably. He is very

676
00:41:49,409 --> 00:41:53,849
enamored by Janet Yellen. He
thinks she really Yes. She

677
00:41:53,849 --> 00:41:59,399
thinks she's a great economist.
And, and really, really a great

678
00:41:59,399 --> 00:42:03,809
person, both when she ran the
Fed and as Secretary of the

679
00:42:03,809 --> 00:42:04,409
Treasury.

680
00:42:04,950 --> 00:42:07,620
Dave Jones: What my favorite
thing about Janet Yellen is how

681
00:42:07,650 --> 00:42:12,360
as the banking system is melting
down, she's she's overseas

682
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,060
somewhere giving a speech about
climate change. I would actually

683
00:42:15,060 --> 00:42:16,410
like her to be at home,
actually.

684
00:42:17,580 --> 00:42:19,950
Adam Curry: She was in Africa
first. And then she went to

685
00:42:19,950 --> 00:42:25,770
Ukraine hung out was the Lensky.
And oh, yeah. Okay. Your job

686
00:42:25,860 --> 00:42:30,690
Unknown: would create systemic
risk and significant economic

687
00:42:30,690 --> 00:42:34,290
and financial consequences. So
what is your plan that

688
00:42:34,290 --> 00:42:35,970
determination? Right,

689
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:41,670
so what is your plan to keep
large depositors from moving

690
00:42:41,670 --> 00:42:45,960
their funds out of community
banks, into the big banks, we

691
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:50,550
have seen the mergers of banks
over the past decade. I'm

692
00:42:50,550 --> 00:42:53,400
concerned, you're about to
accelerate that by encouraging

693
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,130
anyone who has a large deposit
into community bank to say,

694
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,400
we're not going to make you
whole. But if you go to one of

695
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:03,030
our preferred banks, we will
make you whole at that point.

696
00:43:05,310 --> 00:43:07,050
Adam Curry: Well, this seems
right. This is happening. Of

697
00:43:07,050 --> 00:43:10,950
course, it seems very logical.
In fact, we even had the

698
00:43:10,950 --> 00:43:16,050
conversation here at home, we
have most of our dollar money in

699
00:43:16,650 --> 00:43:20,520
Guadeloupe Bank, which is a
small bank, a community bank,

700
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:26,130
which hat does have backing from
the tip the bankers bank, I

701
00:43:26,130 --> 00:43:28,800
think it's you know, it's
private. It's not a it's not

702
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:34,800
public. And also no agenda show
has mechanics Bank, which is 115

703
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:39,090
years old, got an email from the
CEO says why we don't invest in

704
00:43:39,090 --> 00:43:42,420
mortgage backed securities or
Silicon Valley. That bullcrap.

705
00:43:42,630 --> 00:43:46,050
Okay. So but you know, it's a
conversation we had is our money

706
00:43:46,050 --> 00:43:47,910
safe there. So yeah.

707
00:43:49,410 --> 00:43:52,680
Dave Jones: If you've got more
than 250,000, if you're a quote,

708
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:57,630
large depositor at a smaller
regional bank, yeah. Then you

709
00:43:57,660 --> 00:44:01,680
this is a question you must ask
yourself, this is a big, this is

710
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,900
a business question,

711
00:44:04,170 --> 00:44:06,450
Adam Curry: or family surviving

712
00:44:07,259 --> 00:44:10,229
Dave Jones: Estate question.
This is a critical question that

713
00:44:10,229 --> 00:44:14,849
you must ask when you see that a
large large banks are getting

714
00:44:14,849 --> 00:44:18,449
bailed out and made whole, but
you may not you must ask

715
00:44:18,449 --> 00:44:21,569
yourself this question. This is
not this is not theoretical.

716
00:44:21,809 --> 00:44:22,259
Yes.

717
00:44:22,529 --> 00:44:26,309
Adam Curry: Although I'm sure
that the safest bank for anyone

718
00:44:26,309 --> 00:44:29,909
is going to be HSBC because they
are the most corrupt mofos in

719
00:44:29,909 --> 00:44:33,479
the world. So that's where you
want to put your money but I

720
00:44:33,479 --> 00:44:34,739
can't live with myself. Okay.

721
00:44:34,770 --> 00:44:38,850
Dave Jones: So this this this
clip is his question and her

722
00:44:38,850 --> 00:44:40,620
responses is unedited.

723
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,430
Unknown: Look, I mean, we're
that's certainly not something

724
00:44:47,430 --> 00:44:52,230
that we're encouraging that is
happening right now. That is

725
00:44:52,230 --> 00:44:57,480
happening because depositors are
concerned about the bank

726
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:01,470
failures that have happened and
whether and not other banks

727
00:45:01,470 --> 00:45:05,640
could also, it's happening
because you've fully insured no

728
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:09,060
matter what the amount is, if
you're in a big bank, you're not

729
00:45:09,060 --> 00:45:12,690
fully insured. If you're in a
community bank, well, you're not

730
00:45:12,690 --> 00:45:13,860
fully insured.

731
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,149
Adam Curry: What was she just
repeating what he's saying? Or

732
00:45:18,149 --> 00:45:18,359
she

733
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,760
Dave Jones: has, she has no idea
what to say. That's why she just

734
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,640
keeps repeating what he said. I
mean, there's like a, there's

735
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,220
like a four second pause. When
he asked her that question she

736
00:45:26,220 --> 00:45:29,880
has no had, she has not she's,
it's clear, she has not even

737
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:30,600
thought of this.

738
00:45:30,630 --> 00:45:32,820
Unknown: I'm gonna go back a
couple seconds, you're not fully

739
00:45:32,820 --> 00:45:36,120
insured. If you're in a
community bank? Well, you're not

740
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:41,340
fully insured. And you were in
signature and it was just barely

741
00:45:41,340 --> 00:45:43,290
met that threshold, you weren't
signature?

742
00:45:44,129 --> 00:45:49,769
Well, we felt that there was a
serious risk, make it make an

743
00:45:49,769 --> 00:45:53,879
objection to it could have
brought down and triggered runs

744
00:45:54,089 --> 00:45:59,999
on many banks. And that's
something given that our

745
00:45:59,999 --> 00:46:05,399
judgment is that the banking
system overall, is safe and

746
00:46:05,399 --> 00:46:05,909
sound.

747
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,260
Adam Curry: But, but it wasn't,
but it is, but it kind of what

748
00:46:10,350 --> 00:46:13,050
it's almost like explain value
for value to me.

749
00:46:15,060 --> 00:46:18,810
Unknown: They should have
confidence in the system. And we

750
00:46:18,810 --> 00:46:21,720
took these actions. So there's a
special assessment that's been

751
00:46:21,720 --> 00:46:24,630
done on community banks in my
state and all banks across the

752
00:46:24,630 --> 00:46:27,240
country. Was there any
discussion that that special

753
00:46:27,240 --> 00:46:30,780
assessment would only apply to
the larger banks? Or was it

754
00:46:30,780 --> 00:46:33,660
always assumed a special
assessment would cover every

755
00:46:33,660 --> 00:46:35,670
bank, including rural banks in
my state?

756
00:46:36,870 --> 00:46:40,410
Adam Curry: I think I am not
certain what the rules are

757
00:46:40,410 --> 00:46:45,810
around that. That was what she
meant determines the future of

758
00:46:45,810 --> 00:46:48,630
banks and people's money. But
she's not certain of the rules

759
00:46:48,630 --> 00:46:50,730
around how that assessment is
done.

760
00:46:51,330 --> 00:46:54,720
Dave Jones: Yes, I love this
clip, because it totally exposes

761
00:46:55,170 --> 00:47:01,980
the the complete fraud. That is
our our financial system

762
00:47:01,980 --> 00:47:06,810
leadership, as if, like that,
there's this there's this idea

763
00:47:06,810 --> 00:47:09,210
that, Oh, they must know
something we don't

764
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,810
Adam Curry: know what it is. I
need to know who this guy is.

765
00:47:12,810 --> 00:47:13,590
Who is this guy?

766
00:47:14,910 --> 00:47:17,370
Dave Jones: Representative from
Oklahoma representative or

767
00:47:17,370 --> 00:47:17,910
senator?

768
00:47:19,410 --> 00:47:22,440
Adam Curry: Let's see. I'm going
to tell you I know this voice.

769
00:47:22,470 --> 00:47:27,960
I'm going to say it's not that
guy is a Tom Cole. Maybe no, no,

770
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:28,740
no, no.

771
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,820
Dave Jones: He's Oklahoma.
Lankford. James Lankford is your

772
00:47:32,820 --> 00:47:34,950
senator. He is a

773
00:47:35,490 --> 00:47:38,880
Unknown: blank. Oh, there he is.
Okay, James Lankford. All right.

774
00:47:39,180 --> 00:47:42,060
Onward, would cover every bank,
including rural banks in my

775
00:47:42,060 --> 00:47:42,480
state.

776
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:48,030
I think I am not certain what
the rules are around that.

777
00:47:49,860 --> 00:47:56,850
For the FDIC to determine it has
been reported publicly, that SVB

778
00:47:56,970 --> 00:47:59,970
had a large number of Chinese
investors that are there,

779
00:47:59,970 --> 00:48:02,460
including some that were
companies directly connect to

780
00:48:02,460 --> 00:48:07,500
the Chinese Communist Party.
Will those individuals or those

781
00:48:07,500 --> 00:48:11,790
individuals, companies, entities
and investors that are Chinese

782
00:48:11,790 --> 00:48:17,010
investors be made whole based on
assessments in my banks in

783
00:48:17,010 --> 00:48:21,660
Oklahoma? So what I'm asking is,
will my banks in Oklahoma pay a

784
00:48:21,660 --> 00:48:25,350
special assessment to be able to
make Chinese investors pulled

785
00:48:25,710 --> 00:48:28,410
from Silicon Valley Bank? Okay,
let me understand. So

786
00:48:29,490 --> 00:48:33,000
Adam Curry: if I understand. So
in order to qualify for a

787
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,970
complete bailout of your
depositors, you have to pay an

788
00:48:35,970 --> 00:48:39,600
extra fee. This is cuz now I'm
so confused with the special,

789
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,690
Dave Jones: the special
assessment was assessed by the

790
00:48:42,690 --> 00:48:47,070
FDIC on all the bank all the
bank men on all Member FDIC

791
00:48:47,070 --> 00:48:52,710
banks in order to stabilize any,
any iffy banks through this

792
00:48:52,710 --> 00:48:56,520
special program, the BNP or
whatever. And so the special

793
00:48:56,520 --> 00:49:01,260
assessment is basically just a
fee. So he's saying that, you

794
00:49:01,260 --> 00:49:04,350
know, Oklahoma, my bank, my
small banks in Oklahoma are

795
00:49:04,350 --> 00:49:08,310
going to be paying more money to
the Fed yesterday allowed

796
00:49:08,310 --> 00:49:11,280
Adam Curry: silicon, Silicon
Valley Bank, Chinese investors,

797
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:11,790
investors,

798
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,360
Dave Jones: basically, bailout
non American investors? Yes.

799
00:49:15,570 --> 00:49:18,210
Adam Curry: Well, no. I mean, he
also specifically brings out

800
00:49:18,210 --> 00:49:21,360
China for political reasons,
which is cool. Yeah, obviously,

801
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,820
because we got to keep it
political in America, in

802
00:49:23,820 --> 00:49:24,630
Oklahoma. So

803
00:49:24,630 --> 00:49:28,500
Unknown: what I'm asking is,
will my banks in Oklahoma pay a

804
00:49:28,500 --> 00:49:32,310
special assessment to be able to
make Chinese investors whole

805
00:49:32,460 --> 00:49:36,540
from Silicon Valley Bank,
uninsured investors will be made

806
00:49:36,540 --> 00:49:41,070
whole in that bank, and I
suppose that could include

807
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:45,900
foreign and foreign depositors,
but I don't believe there's any

808
00:49:45,900 --> 00:49:49,650
legal basis to discriminate
among uninsured

809
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:53,790
I get it but I'm just saying my
community banks are gonna pay

810
00:49:53,790 --> 00:49:55,860
this additional fee. It is
always fascinating to me as

811
00:49:55,860 --> 00:49:59,190
well, that conversation that
taxpayers are being made whole

812
00:49:59,190 --> 00:50:01,770
in this a taxpayer are not going
to have any kind of consequence

813
00:50:01,770 --> 00:50:04,890
on this. I'm sure my bankers are
gonna be very excited to know

814
00:50:04,890 --> 00:50:09,000
they no longer pay taxes. And
their banks no longer pay taxes,

815
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,480
credit unions don't pay taxes
banks do. And so they're

816
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:16,530
definitely tax payers as well.
And all banks make their revenue

817
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:21,060
of rates and fees and such to
their account holders, which

818
00:50:21,060 --> 00:50:25,230
means every Oklahoman will pay
higher fees, and they're just

819
00:50:25,230 --> 00:50:26,340
gonna have we have gone.

820
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:32,220
Adam Curry: Hey, can we move on
here? I mean, this is you're

821
00:50:32,220 --> 00:50:33,990
badgering the witness. Who

822
00:50:33,990 --> 00:50:37,080
Dave Jones: was that? at that?
Oh, no, that's the whoever the

823
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:40,290
ranking member is trying to move
him on. But that's but there's

824
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:45,270
that there's your bailout. Right
there. Of course, the banks are

825
00:50:45,270 --> 00:50:50,220
taxpayers. And they in in just
like just the flow, he said, all

826
00:50:50,220 --> 00:50:54,450
the all his all of the Oklahoma
residents will be paying higher

827
00:50:54,450 --> 00:50:57,600
taxes or higher fees at the bank
that will be getting less

828
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:02,880
banking services for more money
in order to bail out the banks

829
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:07,440
that were that were unable to
continue. There's your bailout.

830
00:51:08,100 --> 00:51:11,940
It's not it's not a direct
bailout like tarp, but it is

831
00:51:11,940 --> 00:51:16,590
absolutely a bailout at taxpayer
expense. Unbelievable. And she

832
00:51:16,590 --> 00:51:19,290
has no idea how to answer the
question. She doesn't even know

833
00:51:19,290 --> 00:51:22,680
half of the half, you know, it's
just it's just in such a catch

834
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:27,120
Unknown: last 19 seconds here of
rates and fees and such to their

835
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,450
account holders, which means
every Oklahoman will pay higher

836
00:51:30,450 --> 00:51:33,780
fees, and they're just gonna
have we have on lapse

837
00:51:34,050 --> 00:51:40,860
banking system, and its economic
consequences that will have very

838
00:51:40,860 --> 00:51:45,390
severe effects on banks in
Oklahoma and it will also be

839
00:51:45,390 --> 00:51:46,830
threatened. I'm just worried
about

840
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:51,090
Adam Curry: long term we are
gonna have to move on. We're not

841
00:51:51,090 --> 00:51:54,480
going to get all senators in
Senator Cortes master who who

842
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,990
was that who was the one that
that's the Senate Finance

843
00:51:57,990 --> 00:52:02,730
Committee on Senate Finance
Committee, I want to know

844
00:52:02,730 --> 00:52:07,650
because it sounds familiar.
Sounds familiar. Let me see.

845
00:52:08,670 --> 00:52:12,570
MIDI chair, by the way, the Oh,
Ron Wyden. Yeah, of course.

846
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:13,620
Dave Jones: Yes. Of course.

847
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,940
Adam Curry: The House of
Representatives, you know, that

848
00:52:17,940 --> 00:52:22,020
financial oversight board is
overseen by the very, very

849
00:52:22,020 --> 00:52:24,720
competent, Maxine Waters.

850
00:52:25,650 --> 00:52:28,800
Dave Jones: Yes. No, no, no
dicey background there with the

851
00:52:28,830 --> 00:52:33,570
FTX. And everything else. Yeah.
We're way off the rails of

852
00:52:33,570 --> 00:52:37,770
podcasting here. But I don't
think so. I think this all goes

853
00:52:37,770 --> 00:52:41,910
into rational decision making
about the future about the next,

854
00:52:42,090 --> 00:52:47,250
let's just let's just say, two
to three years of, of add

855
00:52:47,250 --> 00:52:52,800
markets, general economic
planning, I think we just need

856
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:56,820
to be a little realistic about
where we're at. And that is that

857
00:52:56,820 --> 00:52:58,080
the people in charge have no
idea.

858
00:52:59,310 --> 00:53:02,130
Adam Curry: No one steering the
ship. But yeah, and honestly, I

859
00:53:02,130 --> 00:53:06,210
don't think anyone has really
knows it's all Bull. I don't

860
00:53:06,210 --> 00:53:09,450
think that anyone really knows
how, how it all really works. I

861
00:53:09,450 --> 00:53:15,780
mean, I err, err, more on the
side of Austrian economics. But

862
00:53:15,780 --> 00:53:18,960
this clearly, this is this is
exact, I think this is exactly

863
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,090
what it's supposed to be every
single time we go through this

864
00:53:21,090 --> 00:53:24,690
cycle. It's, you know, seven to
12 years or whatever. And you

865
00:53:24,780 --> 00:53:27,480
There we go again, except this
time, they kind of caught with

866
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,900
their pants down, because we had
this long period of really

867
00:53:30,900 --> 00:53:33,360
kicking the can down the road
with the low interest rates and

868
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,270
covering everything up and now
it's just coming back. And

869
00:53:36,300 --> 00:53:38,130
there's gonna be winners and
losers.

870
00:53:38,700 --> 00:53:42,510
Dave Jones: And I was listening
to some old lectures from Paul

871
00:53:42,510 --> 00:53:43,050
Volcker.

872
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:45,930
Adam Curry: Yeah, he was the

873
00:53:47,370 --> 00:53:49,800
Dave Jones: chairman from the
70s. Yeah, yeah. When

874
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,640
Adam Curry: when we had 20 20%
interest rates? Yep. And so

875
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,670
Dave Jones: I was listening to
some old lectures of his not

876
00:53:56,670 --> 00:54:01,080
super old, like, from early
2000s. And, you know, I mean,

877
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,780
I'm not me, I'm not gonna say
he's a genius. You know, he's

878
00:54:03,810 --> 00:54:07,020
like, this second coming or
anything, but I mean, he's but

879
00:54:07,470 --> 00:54:09,810
but he's honest. And he's just
sort of out of things now, so he

880
00:54:09,810 --> 00:54:16,230
can be a little more honest. He
mentioned that. So these credit

881
00:54:16,230 --> 00:54:20,040
default swaps and derivatives.
It's basically insurance on a

882
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:25,500
trade. It's a way to hedge
against a bad trade. And so it's

883
00:54:25,500 --> 00:54:29,700
basically insurance. Did you
know that he said that as of

884
00:54:29,700 --> 00:54:35,640
like, three years ago, that
there was $700 trillion of

885
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:41,430
credit default swaps? Oh, sure.
Insuring only $70,000 Excuse me,

886
00:54:41,430 --> 00:54:46,380
only 70 trillion of assets.
Yeah, I'm sure. That's like

887
00:54:46,380 --> 00:54:51,270
taking out a $700,000 insurance
policy on your $70,000 car.

888
00:54:51,750 --> 00:54:55,230
Yeah, got of course the only
something ain't wrong. Yes. All

889
00:54:55,650 --> 00:55:00,000
Adam Curry: it is. I do have a
quote from Chairwoman cheer.

890
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:04,140
person, Maxine Waters from the
House of Representatives side.

891
00:55:04,860 --> 00:55:07,830
Unknown: Here we go. My
Millennials stay

892
00:55:09,750 --> 00:55:10,770
Dave Jones: in the chamber

893
00:55:11,670 --> 00:55:12,900
Adam Curry: in the chamber no
less.

894
00:55:15,599 --> 00:55:20,519
Dave Jones: Added added down, do
a little swerve off the road

895
00:55:20,519 --> 00:55:23,639
here. I added the things that
you want it to the charts, the V

896
00:55:23,639 --> 00:55:23,999
for V

897
00:55:24,029 --> 00:55:27,179
Adam Curry: O is updated. Oh,
no, I saw those of course. Yeah,

898
00:55:27,179 --> 00:55:32,819
of course I saw it you, you
added the Hold on a second, I

899
00:55:32,819 --> 00:55:35,309
have it here, you added the
transaction count. And you also

900
00:55:35,309 --> 00:55:37,289
have unique senders, which is
interesting.

901
00:55:38,310 --> 00:55:41,430
Dave Jones: That unique senders
needs an asterisk and a little

902
00:55:41,430 --> 00:55:44,100
thing at the bottom of the page
that explains why the Asterix

903
00:55:44,100 --> 00:55:53,580
exists. Okay. Because clearly,
we can't verify that, you know,

904
00:55:53,580 --> 00:56:03,210
if I have I could I could create
a script and mimic your exam?

905
00:56:03,240 --> 00:56:06,750
The what looks exactly like an
Adam curry boost to have a

906
00:56:06,750 --> 00:56:10,470
record? Oh, of course. Of
course. Yeah. So I mean, that

907
00:56:10,470 --> 00:56:14,010
unique cinders is is I mean,
that's a that's a fiction, but

908
00:56:14,730 --> 00:56:20,460
it's I mean, it's still I still
consider it, the use of them is

909
00:56:20,490 --> 00:56:21,540
fairly useful.

910
00:56:21,810 --> 00:56:24,180
Adam Curry: Well, it's kind of
about what I thought, you know,

911
00:56:24,210 --> 00:56:27,570
it looks like currently we have
an average of, I don't know, a

912
00:56:27,570 --> 00:56:30,330
million a million shots a day
flowing through the system.

913
00:56:31,620 --> 00:56:34,710
Dave Jones: I think the average
would be about that. But I think

914
00:56:34,710 --> 00:56:36,660
the median is probably a little
higher. Yeah.

915
00:56:36,810 --> 00:56:40,650
Adam Curry: The meeting. Okay,
so maybe 1.5 million.

916
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,680
Dave Jones: Yeah, some were
saying one and two. It's really

917
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:45,120
impressions go up. Well, I

918
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,250
Adam Curry: mean, so now of
course, I obsess over this

919
00:56:47,250 --> 00:56:51,030
stuff. I love seeing it. I
really look at the at the seven

920
00:56:51,030 --> 00:56:58,350
day and the 30 day. Because you
know you're seeing it actually

921
00:56:58,350 --> 00:57:01,470
will be handy to I mean, I could
overlay this with a million

922
00:57:01,470 --> 00:57:03,540
different things. Because
there's release schedules, you

923
00:57:03,540 --> 00:57:08,550
know, this is certain days when
podcasts come out. The I think

924
00:57:08,580 --> 00:57:12,870
Wednesday we know, pretty sure
that Wednesday is probably the

925
00:57:12,870 --> 00:57:19,350
lowest day for for booster grams
for activity. Would you say?

926
00:57:19,380 --> 00:57:20,160
That's correct?

927
00:57:22,620 --> 00:57:25,470
Dave Jones: Yeah, yeah, I would
think so. Yeah, that's Yeah.

928
00:57:25,500 --> 00:57:27,630
Wednesday into Thursday morning.
Yeah,

929
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:29,940
Adam Curry: yeah, that yeah,
Wednesday to Thursday morning.

930
00:57:29,970 --> 00:57:33,870
That seems to be pretty low. But
man, there's an economy here and

931
00:57:33,900 --> 00:57:37,470
there's real money flowing
through this. And, and again, I

932
00:57:37,470 --> 00:57:40,650
really liked that. Although I
appreciate you putting the

933
00:57:40,740 --> 00:57:46,410
dollar value next to it. Which
of course is all over the map.

934
00:57:46,860 --> 00:57:49,650
The thing that I see is that
people don't care about the

935
00:57:49,650 --> 00:57:51,870
dollar. But I think we talked
about this on the last show. I

936
00:57:51,870 --> 00:57:56,640
mean, when I see 12121 stats,
SATs from from dread to want

937
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,490
some namespace talk and you got
to up the booths there drugs you

938
00:57:59,490 --> 00:58:04,680
want namespace talk a hot next
day stock. Oh, goodness. Okay,

939
00:58:04,710 --> 00:58:07,170
well, so then you have Darren Oh

940
00:58:07,410 --> 00:58:11,310
Unknown: Sakala 20. His blades
only him Paula

941
00:58:11,340 --> 00:58:16,500
Adam Curry: with one on 1010
with 101,010 SATs. Just blend it

942
00:58:16,500 --> 00:58:22,740
like that. You know 25,000 SATs
from Dolby das ad 1888 from

943
00:58:22,740 --> 00:58:25,680
Fletcher. By the way he says
hello privates.

944
00:58:26,609 --> 00:58:29,639
Dave Jones: Did he just was that
about 30 minutes ago in certain

945
00:58:29,639 --> 00:58:32,819
houses, because that's a Satoshi
slam. That's what that oh, just

946
00:58:32,819 --> 00:58:33,749
Satoshi slam. Yeah,

947
00:58:33,750 --> 00:58:36,420
Adam Curry: we forgot about
that. Exactly. We have the

948
00:58:36,450 --> 00:58:40,320
where's the I should have had
that. Ready. Hold on. Satoshi

949
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:45,120
slam. Wait, didn't we have Do we
have a jingle for that? Yeah,

950
00:58:45,150 --> 00:58:51,900
Dave Jones: yes. Let your sin it
does Toshi is love or whatever.

951
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:53,550
Adam Curry: Why can I not find
this?

952
00:58:55,230 --> 00:58:57,330
Unknown: Oh, no. Oh,

953
00:58:57,810 --> 00:59:01,200
Adam Curry: I don't have it.
Jingle overbought i There's a

954
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,600
jingle over. I'm it's not in my
search system. I don't know

955
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:07,560
what's going on. Anyway, the
Satoshi slam he says hi privates

956
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:11,490
in certain alphabet communities.
V two v two v means something

957
00:59:11,490 --> 00:59:16,410
entirely different than V four
v. I don't even want I don't

958
00:59:16,410 --> 00:59:18,510
even want to know, we're good.
We're good. We're good. We're

959
00:59:18,510 --> 00:59:25,680
good. There's chata with 808. So
my point is the economy that

960
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:34,620
we're living in. Play on Ambala
the kids won't eat for a week

961
00:59:35,010 --> 00:59:41,280
12121 to see what you can do.
You see what you can do? I'm

962
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:41,760
just saying

963
00:59:42,210 --> 00:59:44,640
Dave Jones: he's the patron
saint of podcasts for No, it's

964
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:45,870
just sure is you sure

965
00:59:45,870 --> 00:59:50,040
Adam Curry: is. So we're into
the numerology of this

966
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:55,530
particular currency that we're
using in our own ecosystem. The

967
00:59:55,530 --> 00:59:59,760
dollar amount is, I mean, it's
not irrelevant, but it kind of

968
00:59:59,760 --> 00:59:59,970
is

969
01:00:00,719 --> 01:00:02,579
Dave Jones: I can take it out, I
can take it out the chart.

970
01:00:04,410 --> 01:00:06,000
Adam Curry: I'm not saying it
has to be taken out of the

971
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,760
chart. I'm just saying it's
beautiful to see that doesn't

972
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:11,610
matter that would that everyone
is, especially when it comes to

973
01:00:11,610 --> 01:00:14,730
booster grams. And boosts
everyone is just all on board

974
01:00:14,730 --> 01:00:17,910
with whatever the number the
numbers are the cool numbers.

975
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,420
The number says something just
like the big RAM says something.

976
01:00:21,420 --> 01:00:25,770
I love that it's beautiful
thing. And it's the future.

977
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:32,610
Dave Jones: But the the unique
Cinder thing is, is interesting

978
01:00:32,610 --> 01:00:35,640
too, because you like if you
think about it like this? Yes,

979
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:41,100
it's not. You could you could
gain that. Oh, yeah, change it,

980
01:00:41,130 --> 01:00:42,210
but you would have to pay to

981
01:00:42,210 --> 01:00:45,240
Adam Curry: do. Exactly,
exactly. That's the beauty of

982
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:45,450
it.

983
01:00:45,780 --> 01:00:49,440
Dave Jones: You don't get it for
free. Is like Visa is kind of

984
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:49,980
interesting.

985
01:00:50,010 --> 01:00:55,350
Adam Curry: V four v stats.com.
If you want to watch it. Yeah. V

986
01:00:55,350 --> 01:00:59,760
four v stats.com. Or, yeah,
there's a whole long URL, but I

987
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:02,970
like V four v. stats.com. That's
why I registered for you, my

988
01:01:02,970 --> 01:01:03,360
friend.

989
01:01:03,690 --> 01:01:08,340
Dave Jones: Thank you, brother.
Okay, you got you got anything,

990
01:01:08,340 --> 01:01:09,390
I guess? Yeah, yeah,

991
01:01:09,780 --> 01:01:12,510
Adam Curry: I've been I've been
hogging the mic. Go ahead. No,

992
01:01:12,510 --> 01:01:12,750
no,

993
01:01:12,750 --> 01:01:16,110
Dave Jones: I hugged up with you
did get everybody to sleep with

994
01:01:16,110 --> 01:01:17,100
the pipes of Janet. And

995
01:01:17,100 --> 01:01:18,870
Adam Curry: I don't think I was
sleeping on that. Yeah, two

996
01:01:18,870 --> 01:01:23,610
things I have here. One. I
wanted noster is still there's

997
01:01:23,610 --> 01:01:27,300
still some debate going back and
forth. You know, like, NASA

998
01:01:27,300 --> 01:01:31,680
should be connected to
podcasting to bone. Oh, okay. I

999
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:34,470
wanted to point out the main
difference between what is

1000
01:01:34,470 --> 01:01:38,250
happening on noster was zaps,
which is all exciting. And I

1001
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:41,580
check out noster all the time. I
don't find the conversation. It

1002
01:01:41,580 --> 01:01:47,430
particularly exciting seems to
be a lot of PV and to the moon

1003
01:01:47,430 --> 01:01:50,460
and just kind of stuff. Good
morning. Good night. Yeah, well,

1004
01:01:50,490 --> 01:01:51,540
yeah, Pura Vida,

1005
01:01:51,570 --> 01:01:53,850
Dave Jones: you know, so Okay,
that's great. What does that

1006
01:01:53,850 --> 01:01:55,620
mean, by the way, that I

1007
01:01:55,620 --> 01:01:57,210
Adam Curry: think that's
something that Jack Dorsey

1008
01:01:57,210 --> 01:01:59,940
started. And I think without
Jack Dorsey, none of this will

1009
01:01:59,940 --> 01:02:05,880
be going on. And that's kind of
what led me to the to the

1010
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:10,590
discovery of the simple fact
that Jack Dorsey is funding

1011
01:02:10,620 --> 01:02:15,780
development. Yep. And he's doing
it seemingly altruistically,

1012
01:02:15,780 --> 01:02:20,850
which is beautiful. What we are
doing with podcasting 2.0 on

1013
01:02:20,850 --> 01:02:26,010
value for value is we have
specifically purposely put

1014
01:02:26,010 --> 01:02:30,990
everyone into the value flow.
When you send a zap from, you

1015
01:02:30,990 --> 01:02:38,760
know, what app Am I using, you
know, from Gnostic gram to using

1016
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:44,520
an amethyst or Iris, the app
developer gets none of that,

1017
01:02:44,850 --> 01:02:50,370
because we invented the split.
This was done specifically to

1018
01:02:50,370 --> 01:02:53,700
get everyone involved. And
everybody can have a piece of

1019
01:02:53,700 --> 01:02:56,910
this, you know, a million and a
half Satoshis that flows through

1020
01:02:56,910 --> 01:03:00,000
the system every single day,
whether you're making a stats

1021
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:02,400
package, whether you're doing
transcripts, whether you're

1022
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:07,260
hosting, you've created a
WordPress plugin, you've built

1023
01:03:07,260 --> 01:03:10,890
an app and put your your blood
sweat and tears into it. That

1024
01:03:10,890 --> 01:03:17,010
was the idea from the onset.
And, and noster does not have

1025
01:03:17,010 --> 01:03:21,480
this. So I do not believe the
ecosystem can only be sustained

1026
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:25,950
by one billionaire who hands
out, you know, rewards and

1027
01:03:26,130 --> 01:03:30,000
benefits to people. There has to
be something in there, like

1028
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:33,690
splits that makes it work for
everybody. And I think just

1029
01:03:33,690 --> 01:03:36,300
looking at the culture, that
ship may have sailed it may be

1030
01:03:36,300 --> 01:03:39,210
too late for them to to
integrate that your thoughts

1031
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:40,470
Dave Jones, pod sage.

1032
01:03:41,850 --> 01:03:45,390
Dave Jones: Now, I think your
prayer, I think you're right. I

1033
01:03:45,390 --> 01:03:49,830
think that because they built
they built in, Gigi wrote an

1034
01:03:49,830 --> 01:03:54,510
article kind of talking about
this, maybe last week, I don't

1035
01:03:54,510 --> 01:03:57,900
remember but whatever his latest
article was, he was really

1036
01:03:57,900 --> 01:04:01,800
decrying the fact that podcast
he's like over here in

1037
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:05,910
podcasting, 2.0 they have this
notion of splits, which, you

1038
01:04:05,910 --> 01:04:09,660
know, which and he's like, we
need that. In the broader

1039
01:04:10,860 --> 01:04:15,060
Bitcoin ecosystem. We need
splits to be a thing because

1040
01:04:15,060 --> 01:04:15,480
Gigi,

1041
01:04:15,510 --> 01:04:18,810
Adam Curry: Gigi understands
value for value. People think

1042
01:04:18,930 --> 01:04:19,680
value for value.

1043
01:04:22,650 --> 01:04:25,560
Dave Jones: Yeah, initially, he
was arguing it needs to be at

1044
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:32,220
the it needs to be programmatic.
And, and not any needs to be

1045
01:04:32,220 --> 01:04:36,990
built into the protocol. And I
agree, I agree with that. There.

1046
01:04:37,020 --> 01:04:42,960
We we sort of hacked it on top.
And I don't want to say hi,

1047
01:04:42,990 --> 01:04:46,800
because I mean, we we did it a
good way. I think, you know, we

1048
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:49,470
did it the right way for what
for what it is and what we

1049
01:04:49,470 --> 01:04:53,940
needed. But I don't want to say
that negatively but but at the

1050
01:04:53,940 --> 01:04:57,750
same time, it really would be
great to have it built

1051
01:04:57,750 --> 01:05:02,640
programmatically into it.
Lightning into Bitcoin Core even

1052
01:05:02,670 --> 01:05:09,060
Adam Curry: Oh, I liked that
idea. There we go. Fletcher's DM

1053
01:05:09,060 --> 01:05:16,020
to to me Thanks, bro you know, I
think yes, that's a wow, that is

1054
01:05:16,020 --> 01:05:19,620
a genius idea. I mean, it seems
like the lightning labs people

1055
01:05:19,620 --> 01:05:23,370
be too busy defending their
brand name Tarot.

1056
01:05:24,060 --> 01:05:26,370
Dave Jones: Here they're getting
sued, aren't they? Well,

1057
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:29,370
Adam Curry: they had a they had
a, I think they've changed it to

1058
01:05:29,370 --> 01:05:34,890
an injunction from a. It was
like a restraining order, which

1059
01:05:34,890 --> 01:05:37,440
I thought was weird cease and
desist, I understand. But some

1060
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:39,990
of that a restraining order.
It's all it's all. It's all

1061
01:05:39,990 --> 01:05:43,110
trademark. And, you know,
trademark is a big deal. So you

1062
01:05:43,110 --> 01:05:45,480
go and you defend your
trademark, and then everything

1063
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:48,330
has to stop until that's
resolved. And I guess this

1064
01:05:48,330 --> 01:05:53,760
company, Terry has, you know, a
similar product to lightning

1065
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:56,610
labs and tarot, but they were
there earlier, trademarked it

1066
01:05:56,640 --> 01:06:02,520
oops. I guess roast beef was
talking too fast. I was trying

1067
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:07,260
to catch up to him forgot to do
some of the basic work. So I end

1068
01:06:07,260 --> 01:06:12,000
up they don't care. Honestly, I
don't see the developers of

1069
01:06:12,030 --> 01:06:16,020
lightning. And I don't know the
see lightning people well

1070
01:06:16,020 --> 01:06:18,630
enough. I just don't see any,
they don't care about

1071
01:06:18,630 --> 01:06:21,930
microtransactions. We know that.
We're the ones that are making

1072
01:06:21,930 --> 01:06:23,130
that ecosystem work.

1073
01:06:23,910 --> 01:06:26,340
Dave Jones: Yeah, I think I
think the bottom line of what

1074
01:06:26,370 --> 01:06:29,640
you're saying is that we were
going to just be stuck with what

1075
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:32,610
we have for a while. I mean, for
who knows how long into the

1076
01:06:32,610 --> 01:06:33,030
future.

1077
01:06:33,060 --> 01:06:35,460
Adam Curry: And I'm not, and I'm
not sad about it. I mean, I

1078
01:06:35,460 --> 01:06:40,260
think eautiful it's just, you
know, it's like this, if

1079
01:06:40,260 --> 01:06:42,990
anything, I want to point out
that we actually have something

1080
01:06:42,990 --> 01:06:48,180
really cool. And that is to be
admired by people that most

1081
01:06:48,180 --> 01:06:51,120
won't give a crap about us. But
that's not that's be beside the

1082
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:55,260
point. You know, wait until we
wait until the music side

1083
01:06:55,260 --> 01:06:58,890
project or, or that and more
apps start to come online. And

1084
01:06:58,890 --> 01:07:02,550
the musicians come in, and they
see that they can do splits. And

1085
01:07:02,550 --> 01:07:05,820
they see that they can
circumvent the whole archaic

1086
01:07:05,850 --> 01:07:11,130
architecture of ASCAP, BMI,
Harry Fox agency, record labels

1087
01:07:11,130 --> 01:07:14,700
publishing, you can put it all
right into the value block, and

1088
01:07:14,700 --> 01:07:18,450
it's transparent, right down to
base, you know, of course,

1089
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:23,850
music, music component,
composition, lyrics, down to the

1090
01:07:23,850 --> 01:07:27,360
players. And as we know, we can
have, you know, doesn't have to

1091
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:32,040
be 100%. It can be, can be 500%.
Everything works out in the mix

1092
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:36,900
behind the scenes, it gets split
up perfectly. And that is that's

1093
01:07:36,900 --> 01:07:40,170
a future system. That's
something that people will who

1094
01:07:40,170 --> 01:07:43,530
are in the music business will
understand. And we'll get, and I

1095
01:07:43,530 --> 01:07:46,650
think we're unique in that, Ben,
we've built it out. We have, you

1096
01:07:46,650 --> 01:07:54,900
know, what is it now? I think
I'd like to the show that Dave

1097
01:07:54,900 --> 01:07:58,950
Jackson and Dan J. Lewis are
doing. Yeah, I've

1098
01:07:58,950 --> 01:08:00,300
Dave Jones: been listening to
that. That's good show.

1099
01:08:00,450 --> 01:08:04,170
Adam Curry: But they need to get
with the ACC the accurate stats,

1100
01:08:04,650 --> 01:08:09,300
because they were talking about
12 183 feeds with value blocks,

1101
01:08:09,330 --> 01:08:14,640
and I'm looking at 12,538. So
they're not pulling from your

1102
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:17,310
JSON, which I know sounds like
it should be on a different

1103
01:08:17,310 --> 01:08:18,030
podcast.

1104
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:24,030
Dave Jones: Yeah, that's right.
That's right before the private

1105
01:08:24,090 --> 01:08:24,510
parts,

1106
01:08:25,140 --> 01:08:27,600
Adam Curry: Private Parts
Unknown, pulling my JSON.

1107
01:08:28,620 --> 01:08:29,850
Dave Jones: Episode one pulling,
Jason

1108
01:08:32,279 --> 01:08:34,709
Adam Curry: You know, and of
course, you know, I love it.

1109
01:08:34,709 --> 01:08:40,769
When Brian of London comes in
says, that's all high five. Easy

1110
01:08:40,769 --> 01:08:44,519
speak. What is it three, speak?
Three speak a lot. A lot of it

1111
01:08:44,519 --> 01:08:48,689
is for sure. And love that
number for that very reason.

1112
01:08:48,719 --> 01:08:49,199
Brian.

1113
01:08:50,340 --> 01:08:52,260
Dave Jones: I've got some, I
think we need to talk about

1114
01:08:52,260 --> 01:08:57,780
channels. Oh, well briefly
covered last week, and then and

1115
01:08:57,780 --> 01:08:58,800
then bailed out.

1116
01:09:00,569 --> 01:09:03,449
Unknown: And now it's time for
some hot

1117
01:09:03,480 --> 01:09:07,110
Adam Curry: namespace now to to
lead us into the hot namespace

1118
01:09:07,110 --> 01:09:08,880
talk. May I make an observation?

1119
01:09:09,599 --> 01:09:11,999
Dave Jones: I would love I would
love to hear an observation.

1120
01:09:12,089 --> 01:09:15,179
Okay. Can you hear an
observation? I guess you can?

1121
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:17,820
Adam Curry: Well, it's an
observation I'm going to put

1122
01:09:17,820 --> 01:09:22,470
into words, the GitHub, the
GitHub needs to be at least

1123
01:09:22,470 --> 01:09:28,020
temporarily constrained, because
now it's becoming a free for all

1124
01:09:28,020 --> 01:09:33,300
of features. So you know, I have
a lot of things I want. But when

1125
01:09:33,330 --> 01:09:36,750
it feels to me like the because
I follow the GitHub, you know,

1126
01:09:36,750 --> 01:09:41,550
and I'm just a casual user, I
will reply sometimes. I don't

1127
01:09:41,550 --> 01:09:43,800
think I've ever done a pull
request. I'm just I'm just

1128
01:09:43,830 --> 01:09:46,620
following along with the
conversation. And it gets very

1129
01:09:46,620 --> 01:09:51,600
crowded with things like past
guests. Okay. I understand that

1130
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:54,750
some people are annoyed by
getting emails from people and I

1131
01:09:54,750 --> 01:09:58,860
get them who want to see if
you'll take a guest on the show.

1132
01:09:59,070 --> 01:10:01,830
But you know, I I mean, I can
think of a lot of things that I

1133
01:10:01,830 --> 01:10:05,760
want in there, like, includes
lighter clicks, might include

1134
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:09,180
vape sounds, I mean, it could
have a whole whole bunch of shit

1135
01:10:09,480 --> 01:10:14,760
that you can put into, into the
namespace. And what it does is

1136
01:10:14,790 --> 01:10:18,750
it takes it, I feel it sucks
energy out of the things that we

1137
01:10:18,750 --> 01:10:21,120
should be concentrating on,
like, I don't know, across that

1138
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:24,150
comment, I'm just gonna throw
some simple out there. But

1139
01:10:24,150 --> 01:10:28,320
there's other things in our now
six phases that are really

1140
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:32,490
important, like the one you're
about to bring up. But but it's

1141
01:10:32,490 --> 01:10:35,370
just become a free for all of
everybody. Oh, I got a great

1142
01:10:35,370 --> 01:10:41,040
idea. I've been dreaming of this
for years. And now it's annoying

1143
01:10:41,070 --> 01:10:44,520
it that's just my observation. I
have no control over the GitHub.

1144
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:47,160
That's all you and I'm just
throwing it out there.

1145
01:10:48,510 --> 01:10:52,530
Dave Jones: I'm gonna take the
opposite side of the fence from

1146
01:10:52,530 --> 01:10:58,410
you. A now in in one specific
way. Now, I agree with you that

1147
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:03,780
the we have more important fish
to fry. Yes, I totally agree, we

1148
01:11:03,780 --> 01:11:07,380
got some important stuff that we
need to do. I'm trying to I'm

1149
01:11:07,380 --> 01:11:11,010
trying to wait a little bit
until some of the dev and some

1150
01:11:11,010 --> 01:11:15,930
of the existing development work
comes down. In before we start

1151
01:11:15,930 --> 01:11:16,140
in

1152
01:11:16,230 --> 01:11:18,540
Adam Curry: one development
work, everyone's trying to raise

1153
01:11:18,540 --> 01:11:21,390
money. Now as far as I can tell,
which is going to suck a lot of

1154
01:11:21,390 --> 01:11:22,830
development time out of people,

1155
01:11:22,860 --> 01:11:25,050
Dave Jones: no Captivate,
Captivate just be No,

1156
01:11:25,230 --> 01:11:27,930
Adam Curry: oh, no, no, no. Oh,
I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm

1157
01:11:27,930 --> 01:11:30,150
talking about on the app
development side?

1158
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:34,170
Dave Jones: Oh, yeah, well, you
know, Pocket Casts is looking at

1159
01:11:34,170 --> 01:11:38,340
2.0. And that in this kind of,
you know, we found that out last

1160
01:11:38,340 --> 01:11:41,790
week, true. And I was trying to
trying to let there be some a

1161
01:11:41,790 --> 01:11:45,360
little bit of a, you know, a
little bit of catch up to be

1162
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:50,040
done, you know, let people get
caught up as much as they feel

1163
01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:54,990
like they need to. And then,
because we got 20 tags, you

1164
01:11:54,990 --> 01:11:57,090
know, so much. So my point,

1165
01:11:57,090 --> 01:12:00,270
Adam Curry: we have 20 tags,
which are not supported by

1166
01:12:00,270 --> 01:12:03,420
everybody. Of course, they don't
have to do it. But I'm just you

1167
01:12:03,420 --> 01:12:06,270
know, I'm just saying that like
this. I don't know, it just

1168
01:12:06,270 --> 01:12:09,960
feels like that's a distraction.
And this just because you read

1169
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:13,260
the GitHub, and you get the
like, oh, okay, this, and it

1170
01:12:13,260 --> 01:12:15,540
gets your juices flowing about
something else. And I don't

1171
01:12:15,540 --> 01:12:19,170
know. I mean, again, I'm sorry,
I should shut up. I made my

1172
01:12:19,170 --> 01:12:21,210
observation. You're trying to
tell me what you want to do?

1173
01:12:21,690 --> 01:12:24,570
Dave Jones: No, no, no, you're.
So that's so that's where I

1174
01:12:24,570 --> 01:12:28,830
disagree is that I think that
it's not a distraction. It's I

1175
01:12:28,830 --> 01:12:33,540
like it when people throw just
everything they can at the wall.

1176
01:12:33,870 --> 01:12:37,830
Because we may be. So take a
take a tag, like has guests,

1177
01:12:38,190 --> 01:12:42,000
probably not going to be a
formal tag. I mean, it's just so

1178
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:45,840
niche, and so specific. And I
think we've got other ways to

1179
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:50,250
handle that. I mean, I could be
wrong, but I don't think it will

1180
01:12:50,250 --> 01:12:55,350
end up being a tag. But at the
same time, as guests may have

1181
01:12:55,530 --> 01:12:59,280
some piece of it or some piece
of reasoning within it, that

1182
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:04,320
also that actually informed
another tag down the road, or on

1183
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:08,400
the other side of the proposal
list that you can end up

1184
01:13:08,430 --> 01:13:11,970
combining and I think channels
is is actually a really good

1185
01:13:11,970 --> 01:13:16,710
example of that. Okay. So
channels, you know, is is that

1186
01:13:16,740 --> 01:13:19,410
that idea that we talked about
last week of grouping, if

1187
01:13:19,410 --> 01:13:23,010
grouping feeds together? Well,
channel we actually had, we

1188
01:13:23,010 --> 01:13:26,730
actually stopped working on
channels, in order to go build

1189
01:13:26,730 --> 01:13:35,580
guid is a Gu it really was born
out of the channel i idea. But

1190
01:13:35,580 --> 01:13:40,260
then, you know, we just never
went back to channels. But so in

1191
01:13:40,260 --> 01:13:43,530
that, that's where you could
have some sort of like cross

1192
01:13:43,530 --> 01:13:48,360
pollination of ideas. That to
where, even though one thing

1193
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:52,140
doesn't actually make it all the
way to the finish line. It can

1194
01:13:52,140 --> 01:13:56,190
be a critical part of some
thinking on another thing. Like

1195
01:13:56,190 --> 01:14:00,060
chit chats or channels. You
know, the idea is that you're

1196
01:14:00,060 --> 01:14:03,270
going to group feeds together.
And you know, what we really

1197
01:14:03,270 --> 01:14:06,330
didn't want to do is group
things or reference feeds by

1198
01:14:06,330 --> 01:14:12,780
URL, because URLs can change
shows move from host to host. So

1199
01:14:12,780 --> 01:14:14,730
okay, all right. Okay, how are
we gonna solve this problem?

1200
01:14:14,730 --> 01:14:19,500
What we came up with good. So
the good is universal idea.

1201
01:14:19,500 --> 01:14:24,960
We've talked about it before.
It's generated from a hash, a UU

1202
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:29,820
ID five hash of your current of
your, your current Feed URL as

1203
01:14:29,820 --> 01:14:33,150
it exists right now. And then
you put that into your feed with

1204
01:14:33,150 --> 01:14:34,950
the podcast colon guid tag,

1205
01:14:35,010 --> 01:14:37,740
Adam Curry: which I have in all
mine, I think I'm support Yes,

1206
01:14:37,770 --> 01:14:38,610
I'm supporting it.

1207
01:14:39,150 --> 01:14:42,570
Dave Jones: Yep. And so now once
you have Gu ID now you have a

1208
01:14:42,570 --> 01:14:48,570
way to referent to refer to all
those goods, which are universal

1209
01:14:48,570 --> 01:14:52,290
IDs for podcasts. You got to
wait to refer to those Gu IDs in

1210
01:14:52,290 --> 01:14:57,540
some sort of channels file. And
that's what I'm that's what I'm

1211
01:14:57,540 --> 01:15:01,500
thinking about right now. Is we
in Get up coming up with three

1212
01:15:01,500 --> 01:15:06,420
different ways to do that. Or
three possibilities we, we sort

1213
01:15:06,420 --> 01:15:09,480
of came up with, I think the
original proposition was just

1214
01:15:09,510 --> 01:15:16,380
using JSON. In sort of like
defy, you've got this channels

1215
01:15:16,380 --> 01:15:19,800
file, which is going to list out
all of the members member feeds.

1216
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:24,600
So you may have a JSON file that
lists out, you know, podcasting

1217
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:29,580
2.0, no agenda, Mofaz Korean
keeper, daily source code. And

1218
01:15:29,580 --> 01:15:33,540
then that would be your channel,
this the Adam curry chat,

1219
01:15:33,570 --> 01:15:38,280
Adam Curry: and okay, and so and
how does that work for my

1220
01:15:38,940 --> 01:15:42,690
different audiences with a lot
of overlap? I mean, what is the

1221
01:15:42,780 --> 01:15:45,000
the listener experience of the
channel?

1222
01:15:46,710 --> 01:15:49,380
Dave Jones: So the listener
experience is what so here is

1223
01:15:49,380 --> 01:15:51,570
there's like a two way street.
This I'm glad. Okay, I'm glad

1224
01:15:51,570 --> 01:15:54,870
you asked this, because I've
forgotten this aspect. It's a

1225
01:15:54,870 --> 01:15:59,670
two way street. So the the, the
feed, so you're gonna have a

1226
01:15:59,670 --> 01:16:03,210
chat, you're gonna have a
channel file that references

1227
01:16:03,750 --> 01:16:07,800
podcasting, 2.0, no agenda, Mo
facts, current keeper daily

1228
01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:12,240
source code. Each one of those
five feeds will also have a

1229
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:16,740
channel tag in it that links
back to the channel file. Yeah,

1230
01:16:16,770 --> 01:16:21,000
so it links to the URL of the
channel file. So now, if I'm

1231
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:27,930
listening to mo facts, my
podcast app can say, can resolve

1232
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:30,660
can go out, can see there's a
channel file go out and get it.

1233
01:16:31,170 --> 01:16:36,120
And also say, in some way, it
can know how it presents us, the

1234
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:39,930
user, you know, is up to
whatever app, but they can also

1235
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:44,880
inform the user that, hey, this
feed you're listening to is also

1236
01:16:44,910 --> 01:16:49,380
part of a channel with these
other feeds in it. Okay, it's

1237
01:16:49,380 --> 01:16:53,970
like a discovery, a really good
discovery mechanism. Because if

1238
01:16:53,970 --> 01:16:57,810
you've subscribed to one, you
did it for a reason, you may

1239
01:16:57,810 --> 01:17:01,470
want to subscribe to something
else related to this. So at

1240
01:17:01,470 --> 01:17:06,270
least, you know, at least
they're sort of grouped in a way

1241
01:17:06,270 --> 01:17:08,070
that the podcast app can
discover. So

1242
01:17:08,070 --> 01:17:10,530
Adam Curry: my question, it's
not something I'm interested in,

1243
01:17:10,620 --> 01:17:14,370
honestly, I just I don't know
why it's not I'm not trying to

1244
01:17:14,370 --> 01:17:18,420
be controversial. What is the
demand for this? And or is it

1245
01:17:18,420 --> 01:17:21,450
something we think there's
demand for and we and we want to

1246
01:17:21,450 --> 01:17:25,110
create the demand? I'm just, I'm
just trying to understand where

1247
01:17:25,140 --> 01:17:29,160
where the where the demand for
this particular feature comes

1248
01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:29,430
from.

1249
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:35,430
Dave Jones: So it can really it
comes from? It's necessary for

1250
01:17:35,430 --> 01:17:39,960
few reasons. I mean, necessaries
Nia loosey goosey word? Well,

1251
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:42,660
let me answer Nathan's question
first, real quick. He said,

1252
01:17:42,660 --> 01:17:45,630
Doesn't the podcast author
proposal replaced the chat the

1253
01:17:45,630 --> 01:17:50,430
need for channels? No, because
just because the author, because

1254
01:17:50,430 --> 01:17:52,830
you can group channel, you
could, you could imagine a

1255
01:17:52,830 --> 01:17:57,870
grouping of, of shows that
really don't have any connection

1256
01:17:57,870 --> 01:18:02,700
to the publisher at all. You
could be a grouping of shows of

1257
01:18:02,700 --> 01:18:11,250
like, of all all of Amazon's
originals. And they're going to

1258
01:18:11,460 --> 01:18:14,700
perhaps have different
publishers. So they may not even

1259
01:18:14,700 --> 01:18:20,760
reference Amazon necessarily, in
in the in the publisher tag. So

1260
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:24,720
that you can you can envision
scenarios where the PA where

1261
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:32,250
they're still groupings beyond
publishers. What you said the

1262
01:18:32,670 --> 01:18:43,140
one one perfect use case off the
top would be a musician. Let's

1263
01:18:43,140 --> 01:18:50,940
just say tone record. He's got
five albums. And each each album

1264
01:18:50,940 --> 01:18:55,080
is a feed. Each episode is a
track. So now he needs to go

1265
01:18:55,080 --> 01:19:00,000
with this one level up and say,
Okay, I need some way to do to

1266
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:04,860
show like my entire catalog. So
at that level, you can think of

1267
01:19:04,860 --> 01:19:08,910
channel as catalog for this for
this particular

1268
01:19:08,910 --> 01:19:10,530
Adam Curry: thank you for
answering his question. You

1269
01:19:10,530 --> 01:19:13,830
answered my question perfectly.
It's appropriate for music.

1270
01:19:14,190 --> 01:19:15,930
That's where the demand is
coming from.

1271
01:19:17,220 --> 01:19:21,120
Dave Jones: I would I would say
that's probably the most

1272
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:25,260
straightforward use case for it.
And then all the other ones you

1273
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:28,020
all the other use cases you can
think of you can kind of get for

1274
01:19:28,020 --> 01:19:28,470
free.

1275
01:19:28,620 --> 01:19:32,340
Adam Curry: Yeah. Okay. So, yes.
All right. I'm with that. I

1276
01:19:32,340 --> 01:19:34,740
mean, I would call it
discography, but I understand

1277
01:19:34,740 --> 01:19:37,320
doesn't, okay. It doesn't really
matter what you call it, as long

1278
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:40,470
as it has that function. So
yeah, that makes sense. And I

1279
01:19:40,470 --> 01:19:42,420
can see that being built in.

1280
01:19:43,740 --> 01:19:46,680
Dave Jones: Well, so then, you
know, the question becomes, how

1281
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:51,510
do you build this channel file?
It can, is it going to be it

1282
01:19:51,510 --> 01:19:56,520
because there's really, I can
think of three and I can think

1283
01:19:56,520 --> 01:19:59,610
of three good solutions and I
honestly don't know which one is

1284
01:19:59,610 --> 01:20:02,820
best. So you can have a J, you
can have JSON file, it's got

1285
01:20:02,820 --> 01:20:06,600
some, maybe it's got, it's got
broad support. It's it's fairly

1286
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:07,380
easy to

1287
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:09,750
Adam Curry: work. We're already
we're already publishing things

1288
01:20:09,750 --> 01:20:14,190
in JSON such as chapters,

1289
01:20:14,849 --> 01:20:18,689
Dave Jones: right? You've got
RST,

1290
01:20:18,690 --> 01:20:20,520
Adam Curry: I believe, I can't
believe I'm shilling for JSON

1291
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:23,760
here. What's wrong with me?

1292
01:20:25,440 --> 01:20:30,660
Dave Jones: You've got he got
RSS, I mean, just RSS itself. It

1293
01:20:30,690 --> 01:20:34,650
maybe not. Maybe it's sort of a
little outside the use case of

1294
01:20:34,650 --> 01:20:39,210
RSS, but, but you could still
use it. But to me the biggest,

1295
01:20:39,300 --> 01:20:42,420
the biggest to or are JSON and
OPML.

1296
01:20:43,590 --> 01:20:46,380
Adam Curry: Yeah, and I would
vote against OPML. Even though I

1297
01:20:46,380 --> 01:20:51,840
love OPML, I live in OPML. OPML
is keeps my life and my my life

1298
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:55,500
together. The only reason is I
saw what happened with OPML.

1299
01:20:55,500 --> 01:21:01,140
OPML is a very rich, standard.
And all it's ever used for is

1300
01:21:01,380 --> 01:21:07,200
collecting podcasts, exactly
what it would do. Well, but in a

1301
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:12,510
subscription list. So now to
explain that this is a channel I

1302
01:21:12,510 --> 01:21:16,830
think is more complicated than
it has to be. Whereas this is

1303
01:21:16,830 --> 01:21:19,650
only going to be done by hosts
anyway, they're probably mean

1304
01:21:19,650 --> 01:21:24,060
they have to go, I don't think a
lot of hosts spin up OPML output

1305
01:21:24,060 --> 01:21:26,760
and JSON is probably something
they're already familiar with.

1306
01:21:27,270 --> 01:21:30,210
Dave Jones: Good point. That's a
good, that's a good point.

1307
01:21:30,630 --> 01:21:33,420
Adam Curry: Even though I love
OPML, and I you know, and open,

1308
01:21:33,420 --> 01:21:38,340
but even OPML in the apps today
is a subscription list. It's not

1309
01:21:38,340 --> 01:21:42,300
a channel, I know the
differences are a small nuance,

1310
01:21:42,570 --> 01:21:46,710
but I'm just a stupid user. So
that's how I look, that's the

1311
01:21:46,710 --> 01:21:47,670
voice I'm bringing.

1312
01:21:48,900 --> 01:21:51,090
Dave Jones: No, it's a good
point. I mean, it's a good

1313
01:21:51,090 --> 01:21:54,900
point, because you have so so on
the hosting side, you would have

1314
01:21:55,470 --> 01:22:01,260
probably a more more aptitude
with JSON on the app side,

1315
01:22:01,530 --> 01:22:04,620
you're gonna have, you're gonna
have probably, you know, plenty

1316
01:22:04,620 --> 01:22:08,190
of experience with JSON. They
also mostly they know how to

1317
01:22:08,190 --> 01:22:11,700
speak OPML because they use it
for import export lists. So they

1318
01:22:11,700 --> 01:22:13,020
really could speak either one,

1319
01:22:13,020 --> 01:22:15,660
Adam Curry: right, but what but
what is the user is not

1320
01:22:15,660 --> 01:22:20,850
publishing the channel, the
right, right publishers creator

1321
01:22:20,850 --> 01:22:23,880
and publishing the crap. Yeah,
but they, they consume it. And

1322
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:26,610
it's like, it should just
surface in the app, and it says,

1323
01:22:26,730 --> 01:22:31,560
Oh, here's the channel that this
album or this artists or

1324
01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:34,650
whatever belongs to, then I
think for the user, it's just

1325
01:22:34,650 --> 01:22:36,690
gonna be a list or whatever,
it's not gonna does not going to

1326
01:22:36,690 --> 01:22:38,730
matter if it's OPML or JSON.

1327
01:22:39,690 --> 01:22:42,120
Dave Jones: So the geeky part of
me.

1328
01:22:43,440 --> 01:22:45,540
Adam Curry: Yes, this is what
I'm here to thrash.

1329
01:22:45,839 --> 01:22:54,329
Dave Jones: Yes. The Geeky part
of me really wants to go opium

1330
01:22:54,329 --> 01:23:01,109
mill. Because you can reuse the
name, the podcast namespace in

1331
01:23:01,109 --> 01:23:05,609
the OPML. Because it's just XML
namespace. And you sort of get,

1332
01:23:06,209 --> 01:23:12,149
you get this big win for free.
But that really is just excuse

1333
01:23:12,179 --> 01:23:12,839
me Explain

1334
01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:14,910
Adam Curry: that. Explain it to
me. I'm interested explaining

1335
01:23:14,910 --> 01:23:17,790
again, what do you get? What do
you get for free? If you do it

1336
01:23:17,790 --> 01:23:18,750
that with opium? Well,

1337
01:23:18,750 --> 01:23:21,030
Dave Jones: so you know, so we
got the Podcast, the podcast

1338
01:23:21,030 --> 01:23:25,980
namespace, which is in RSS, but
it's really just, it's, it's a

1339
01:23:25,980 --> 01:23:28,590
misnomer. That is an RSS
namespace. It's an XML

1340
01:23:28,590 --> 01:23:34,350
namespace. So, cause it's just
an XML namespace. We can also

1341
01:23:35,550 --> 01:23:43,410
use the podcast namespace in the
OPML. file. You basically get to

1342
01:23:43,410 --> 01:23:47,850
apply your namespace to the feed
and the channel.

1343
01:23:48,629 --> 01:23:51,329
Adam Curry: Oh, I see what
you're doing. Okay.

1344
01:23:51,990 --> 01:23:55,590
Dave Jones: Whereas a JSON
doesn't have a defined schema,

1345
01:23:55,800 --> 01:24:00,150
like you don't, there are
namespaces for things or

1346
01:24:00,150 --> 01:24:01,500
namespaces for JSON.

1347
01:24:02,099 --> 01:24:04,379
Adam Curry: What's so crazy
they'll do throughout this whole

1348
01:24:04,379 --> 01:24:09,659
thing? I've been trying to find
the channels discussion. And I

1349
01:24:09,659 --> 01:24:14,459
can't find it. All I've got is
now like, Oh, come on. Just you.

1350
01:24:14,579 --> 01:24:19,169
I can't how in GitHub, I can I
just search it. I mean, I'm in

1351
01:24:19,169 --> 01:24:23,609
the podcast, index, podcast,
namespace discussions, and then

1352
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:27,450
Dave Jones: get no no good
issues. Oh, it's an issue. Yeah,

1353
01:24:27,660 --> 01:24:32,760
well, it is now. It's a good
proposal, podcast channel, a

1354
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:34,320
group of like, oh, it's

1355
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:35,430
Adam Curry: an issue. Okay.

1356
01:24:35,460 --> 01:24:38,280
Dave Jones: I'm sorry, issue.
240. That will help you.

1357
01:24:40,140 --> 01:24:43,860
Warning. It's a very long
discussion. Very long.

1358
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:48,810
Adam Curry: Oh, no kidding.
Yeah. That's okay. Oh, I see.

1359
01:24:49,230 --> 01:24:50,670
Podcasts warning. We got

1360
01:24:52,050 --> 01:24:53,700
Dave Jones: all kinds of there's
been an action on this within

1361
01:24:53,700 --> 01:24:59,550
the last few days. Oh, Kevin.
Kevin from Buzzsprout. opened a

1362
01:24:59,550 --> 01:25:04,860
new issue. For pod roll. Oh,
yeah, here we go. Okay. Yeah. So

1363
01:25:04,860 --> 01:25:05,640
this is, uh,

1364
01:25:05,670 --> 01:25:09,150
Adam Curry: this is basically
the same thing. No, not

1365
01:25:09,150 --> 01:25:11,400
Dave Jones: be gay might be
taking a look, he might be

1366
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:14,460
taking a crack at it simplifying
this. I haven't read through the

1367
01:25:14,460 --> 01:25:21,810
chair psaltery through. Okay,
well, that that may be. Yeah,

1368
01:25:21,810 --> 01:25:24,210
we'll have to read through this
before we continue. But that's,

1369
01:25:24,210 --> 01:25:26,940
that's, that's where we left.
That's where we left the channel

1370
01:25:26,940 --> 01:25:31,110
channel discussion. And I'm
really I mean, I'm open to

1371
01:25:31,140 --> 01:25:36,660
whatever, you know, I mean, OPML
I mean, the point about JSON

1372
01:25:36,660 --> 01:25:39,090
being easy to produce and
consume both.

1373
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:44,520
Adam Curry: And that's just me
saying that. Am I a good one? I

1374
01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:48,420
mean, I can read both. And I
know, I can probably write both.

1375
01:25:49,410 --> 01:25:53,640
I understand both. Just I'm just
going for what's simple to get

1376
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:56,070
done here. Yeah. Yeah. So but

1377
01:25:56,100 --> 01:25:58,470
Dave Jones: asking the host to
produce OPML? That would

1378
01:25:58,470 --> 01:26:00,150
probably be the biggest
struggle.

1379
01:26:01,590 --> 01:26:03,630
Adam Curry: Yeah, because it
goes to because I'm sure they

1380
01:26:03,630 --> 01:26:07,830
already have JSON writers or you
know, whatever you call it. I

1381
01:26:07,830 --> 01:26:11,070
still, I still can't find
channel. She all kinds of stuff.

1382
01:26:11,070 --> 01:26:11,340
But

1383
01:26:12,030 --> 01:26:15,060
Dave Jones: oh, you can? It's
240 here.

1384
01:26:15,450 --> 01:26:18,120
Adam Curry: Right. But how do I
get to? Oh, I have to go. I have

1385
01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:21,510
to go through the numbers here
to get to 240. I see. I see. You

1386
01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:24,330
Dave Jones: just tag a 240 on
the end of the URL. You'll get

1387
01:26:24,330 --> 01:26:24,570
there.

1388
01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:31,140
Adam Curry: That sounds obvious.
To 40 I've got a group of

1389
01:26:31,140 --> 01:26:35,520
podcasts. Okay. I got Thank you.
Thank you. Okay, I see what

1390
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:38,340
we're doing here. Oh, yes.
Warning. That is a very long,

1391
01:26:38,580 --> 01:26:46,380
everyone. Hi, everyone. So
creative. Wow. Okay. Anyway, so

1392
01:26:46,380 --> 01:26:49,530
that's what I mean. That's,
that's my whole point is okay.

1393
01:26:49,530 --> 01:26:56,880
We have how many like, for 70
comments, no cross app comments?

1394
01:26:57,960 --> 01:27:00,510
Dave Jones: Well, we're still
we're still working through that

1395
01:27:00,510 --> 01:27:08,310
we got we've got an HTTP to HTTP
to. Glitch. Oh, we're through

1396
01:27:08,370 --> 01:27:08,760
oh,

1397
01:27:08,790 --> 01:27:11,520
Adam Curry: what HTTP to glitch
was this.

1398
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:14,160
Dave Jones: But the podcast
comments stopped loading on the

1399
01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:16,620
site. Oh, and

1400
01:27:17,820 --> 01:27:18,810
Adam Curry: this is no bueno.

1401
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:23,160
Dave Jones: Yeah. And so Geremy
said that he thinks that it's a

1402
01:27:24,660 --> 01:27:28,320
this an issue with the
translation between HTTP two as

1403
01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:31,740
it goes through the reverse
proxy at Cloudflare. And comes

1404
01:27:31,740 --> 01:27:32,910
down to the browser.

1405
01:27:32,940 --> 01:27:36,030
Adam Curry: What is HTTP two?
I've never even heard of this.

1406
01:27:36,480 --> 01:27:39,960
Dave Jones: Yeah. So So there,
you know, there's HTTP 1.1. Was

1407
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:43,980
Yes. Oh, yes. Of course. Yeah.
Well, one dot I was was the old

1408
01:27:43,980 --> 01:27:47,520
school and then went out one,
which brought like a keep alive

1409
01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:51,960
and some improvements. Okay, so
then you got a few years ago, it

1410
01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:56,730
was HTTP slash two came out,
which sort of really

1411
01:27:56,730 --> 01:28:01,980
reengineered the way that
connections are handled. So it

1412
01:28:02,070 --> 01:28:05,160
you instead of, instead of
opening up a separate connection

1413
01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:09,390
for every resource, like page
JavaScript style sheet, every

1414
01:28:09,390 --> 01:28:12,840
one of those being a separate
TCP connection or connection

1415
01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:17,250
pooling? Yes, so you have one
connection and all of its

1416
01:28:17,250 --> 01:28:18,690
resources. Oh, hold on.

1417
01:28:19,710 --> 01:28:23,460
Unknown: Shot Carla 20 is blades
on am Paula

1418
01:28:23,490 --> 01:28:27,930
Adam Curry: taking a break from
the ski slopes? Sam Sethi checks

1419
01:28:27,930 --> 01:28:32,910
in with 101010 101,010 SAS we
got a new number here. This is

1420
01:28:32,910 --> 01:28:35,100
what is this some binary for
something right?

1421
01:28:35,550 --> 01:28:37,590
Dave Jones: Don't hit a tree,
Sam, pay attention what you're

1422
01:28:37,590 --> 01:28:41,250
doing. I gotta see what that is.
That's how Bondo does.

1423
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:49,650
Adam Curry: He's Yes. Bono. No
bond bonus. Oh, no fish share.

1424
01:28:49,650 --> 01:28:54,630
And yes, I want Sonny Bono. Yes,
I want to use the new channel

1425
01:28:54,630 --> 01:28:58,500
tag to be a producer page
showing all the other podcasts

1426
01:28:58,500 --> 01:29:01,290
from that producer. It's great
for discovery. If I listen to

1427
01:29:01,290 --> 01:29:04,710
one pod podcast from a producer,
I can now see all their other

1428
01:29:04,710 --> 01:29:08,010
podcasts. This is similar to
Apple channels. Ah, so this is a

1429
01:29:08,010 --> 01:29:12,030
Genesis perhaps, apple? Oh,
okay.

1430
01:29:12,840 --> 01:29:16,920
Dave Jones: That was the initial
that was the initial idea. Okay,

1431
01:29:16,950 --> 01:29:20,640
people like Alex were like, you
know, immediately saw it for

1432
01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:23,850
what it could be, which was
things like grouping the

1433
01:29:23,850 --> 01:29:27,990
discographies and stuff like
that, like you said, sure. We

1434
01:29:27,990 --> 01:29:29,130
get Yeah, we get a twofer.

1435
01:29:29,580 --> 01:29:35,550
Adam Curry: I like it. So what
is this, this number? Is binary

1436
01:29:35,550 --> 01:29:41,490
101010. Is that is that 42? What
is that binary for?

1437
01:29:43,050 --> 01:29:45,270
Dave Jones: Oh, is that an
entity actually mean that to be

1438
01:29:45,270 --> 01:29:45,780
a signal?

1439
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:49,290
Adam Curry: It's 42. Yeah. Which
of course is the most important

1440
01:29:49,290 --> 01:29:53,940
number in the universe? Decimal
42 decimal 42. Yes.

1441
01:29:54,030 --> 01:29:55,560
Dave Jones: Oh, nice. Yes.
Sweet.

1442
01:29:55,590 --> 01:29:57,960
Adam Curry: There you go. That's
so it's a what do we call a

1443
01:29:57,960 --> 01:29:59,670
level 42 Boost. There you go.

1444
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:03,840
Dave Jones: So, is the universe
the universe boost? Yes,

1445
01:30:03,900 --> 01:30:07,860
Adam Curry: it's exactly. Okay.
Well, this is a wall. It's

1446
01:30:07,860 --> 01:30:11,040
fascinating. I love it all. And
if you know so there's Sam

1447
01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:15,270
Sethi. He is a podcast listening
experience creator, and he wants

1448
01:30:15,270 --> 01:30:15,510
this.

1449
01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:20,670
Dave Jones: I think, I think
when we jump back into talking

1450
01:30:20,670 --> 01:30:24,660
about the next release, when we
get back into this, I think we

1451
01:30:24,660 --> 01:30:27,660
should start with channels. Like
is kind of where I would like to

1452
01:30:27,660 --> 01:30:28,200
start.

1453
01:30:28,290 --> 01:30:30,510
Adam Curry: So it was started by
Tom Ross at your Buzzsprout

1454
01:30:30,510 --> 01:30:35,610
fame. One of Apple's features is
the grouping from April 23 2021.

1455
01:30:36,150 --> 01:30:39,840
Yes, one of the OG it's good to
look at these things. One of

1456
01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:42,750
Apple's features is the grouping
of podcasts into a channel, I

1457
01:30:42,750 --> 01:30:45,660
kind of liked this idea and
wonder if we could incorporate a

1458
01:30:45,660 --> 01:30:48,300
way to do this with the RSS
feed, perhaps we could provide a

1459
01:30:48,300 --> 01:30:50,850
podcast channel tag that
uniquely identifies the channel

1460
01:30:50,850 --> 01:30:54,990
or a related podcast tag that
points to a JSON of all the

1461
01:30:54,990 --> 01:30:58,680
related RSS feeds. So there's a
guy who wants it who is a host,

1462
01:30:58,950 --> 01:31:04,560
hosting, hosting provider and is
already signaling JSON. Which

1463
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:07,140
makes perfect sense. And then
oh, look at this. Look at this

1464
01:31:07,170 --> 01:31:10,620
suck up. Dave Jones comes in you
beat me to this, Tom, this is

1465
01:31:10,620 --> 01:31:13,020
absolutely a good idea. What do
you look at this man?

1466
01:31:13,200 --> 01:31:15,000
Dave Jones: What will you do the
voice for me?

1467
01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:19,380
Adam Curry: That's what it
sounds like. It jumps up to this

1468
01:31:19,380 --> 01:31:25,950
tom. Wow. And then Daniel J.
Lewis. Immediately, isn't this

1469
01:31:25,950 --> 01:31:28,830
what the recommendation tag as
opposed to support and we're off

1470
01:31:28,830 --> 01:31:29,700
to the races.

1471
01:31:30,480 --> 01:31:34,110
Dave Jones: That's all it takes
is one set up and one name

1472
01:31:34,110 --> 01:31:34,590
change.

1473
01:31:36,660 --> 01:31:38,610
Adam Curry: I'm just busting
your balls, brother. I love it.

1474
01:31:38,610 --> 01:31:43,650
I love I cannot believe I've
said this many times. The amount

1475
01:31:43,650 --> 01:31:48,870
of talent that is in this group,
podcasting. 2.0 that is

1476
01:31:48,900 --> 01:31:53,100
unorganized. We're disorganized
is only here because we want to

1477
01:31:53,100 --> 01:31:56,550
do cool things with podcasting.
I again, I believe that we have

1478
01:31:56,550 --> 01:31:58,740
a common denominator, which is
we should all keep getting the

1479
01:31:58,740 --> 01:32:02,850
value flow. You could not
collect this amount of talent.

1480
01:32:02,850 --> 01:32:05,580
You could not afford this amount
of talent. If you had $100

1481
01:32:05,580 --> 01:32:11,370
million dollars, you could not
do it. And I love it. Awesome.

1482
01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:17,430
And the end of $50 million will
be Your salary alone. It's what

1483
01:32:17,430 --> 01:32:20,310
you deserve in my book. That's
what you deserve. Yes, sir.

1484
01:32:20,310 --> 01:32:23,250
Dave Jones: $30 million to say.
I love you, Tom.

1485
01:32:24,030 --> 01:32:25,650
Adam Curry: First in your balls,
man.

1486
01:32:26,250 --> 01:32:30,390
Dave Jones: This is a good $50
million boy Friday.

1487
01:32:32,010 --> 01:32:33,060
Adam Curry: For Friday.

1488
01:32:33,870 --> 01:32:36,180
Dave Jones: We do need to you
know, like I did build the good

1489
01:32:36,180 --> 01:32:37,680
resolver this week? Yeah,

1490
01:32:37,710 --> 01:32:41,040
Adam Curry: yeah. This is I even
teased out in the open. I'm so

1491
01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:41,820
excited about your

1492
01:32:41,820 --> 01:32:45,270
Dave Jones: goodness, in his
life. We don't need to talk

1493
01:32:45,270 --> 01:32:45,990
about it yet, though.

1494
01:32:46,560 --> 01:32:49,230
Adam Curry: Oh, I actually had
it on my list to talk about,

1495
01:32:49,440 --> 01:32:51,300
Dave Jones: well, I don't want
it. I don't want people using

1496
01:32:51,300 --> 01:32:57,030
it. It is not reliable. Is this
purely like alpha alpha alpha?

1497
01:32:57,240 --> 01:32:59,910
Adam Curry: What are the
downside? So the idea is you can

1498
01:32:59,910 --> 01:33:05,190
just throw a throw your your
podcast good at this at this

1499
01:33:05,190 --> 01:33:08,130
thing, which, which would be
something anybody could set up I

1500
01:33:08,130 --> 01:33:12,780
guess any, any app hosting
company, etc. and it spits back.

1501
01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:17,580
You know, your your podcast,
right? That's the I wish the

1502
01:33:17,580 --> 01:33:23,160
universal and and it kind of
becomes the ISBN of podcast. Am

1503
01:33:23,160 --> 01:33:24,810
I saying that right? Yeah,
that's

1504
01:33:24,810 --> 01:33:28,680
Dave Jones: fair. Yeah. It's
meant to be this. This

1505
01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:35,160
particular software is meant to
be super fast, it just just all

1506
01:33:35,160 --> 01:33:35,700
add up.

1507
01:33:36,990 --> 01:33:42,180
Adam Curry: It's like DNS. Yeah.
But I need to open an issue. Why

1508
01:33:42,180 --> 01:33:43,830
don't we just use DNS for this?

1509
01:33:45,540 --> 01:33:47,400
Dave Jones: Why don't we call it
good? What do we call it DNS?

1510
01:33:48,210 --> 01:33:51,000
Adam Curry: are called P and S.
Okay. So

1511
01:33:53,250 --> 01:33:57,720
Dave Jones: it could be the big
the big question. And this is

1512
01:33:57,720 --> 01:34:01,860
what Christopher I seen. And I
see I'm talking about it. And I

1513
01:34:01,860 --> 01:34:02,130
don't want to

1514
01:34:02,130 --> 01:34:04,500
Adam Curry: talk about oh, I'm
sorry. Well, we can switch we

1515
01:34:04,500 --> 01:34:06,540
can switch to something else. Do
you want to know

1516
01:34:07,020 --> 01:34:08,400
Dave Jones: where we're getting?
We're getting late in the game.

1517
01:34:08,400 --> 01:34:12,210
We probably need to thank
people. But um, you know, I

1518
01:34:12,210 --> 01:34:18,030
think I'm gonna wait and talk
about guid once. Once I'm happy

1519
01:34:18,630 --> 01:34:21,000
that it's stable and giving out
good data.

1520
01:34:21,750 --> 01:34:25,500
Adam Curry: Let's do that. Okay.
And it won't be next week. We

1521
01:34:25,500 --> 01:34:28,590
have no board meeting meeting
next week. WARNING WARNING.

1522
01:34:28,620 --> 01:34:29,400
Dave Jones: Oh, yeah, that's
right.

1523
01:34:30,780 --> 01:34:31,830
Adam Curry: Oh, man.

1524
01:34:31,950 --> 01:34:32,850
Dave Jones: Hey, you're on boat,

1525
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:35,070
Adam Curry: aren't you? Aren't
you taking the debt? Aren't you

1526
01:34:35,400 --> 01:34:37,260
going somewhere with your
family? Are you doing taking the

1527
01:34:37,260 --> 01:34:37,800
day off?

1528
01:34:38,009 --> 01:34:38,729
Dave Jones: Oh, yeah, that's
right.

1529
01:34:40,380 --> 01:34:44,160
Adam Curry: I know your family's
like I know it's like, annoying.

1530
01:34:44,190 --> 01:34:45,150
I know family.

1531
01:34:45,990 --> 01:34:48,750
Dave Jones: Yes, yes, we are.
Yeah, we're going out of town

1532
01:34:48,750 --> 01:34:50,040
for a couple of days.

1533
01:34:50,100 --> 01:34:52,530
Adam Curry: Oh, nice. Well, I'm
also out of town so everyone's

1534
01:34:52,530 --> 01:34:55,740
out of town. So there will be no
no board meeting the board

1535
01:34:55,740 --> 01:34:57,600
meeting will be will be locked.

1536
01:34:58,860 --> 01:35:02,010
Dave Jones: Lobby deaf out I
will definitely be have the good

1537
01:35:02,010 --> 01:35:05,220
resolver stable by two weeks
from now. Okay, all right,

1538
01:35:05,250 --> 01:35:06,150
there's plenty of time.

1539
01:35:06,540 --> 01:35:09,060
Adam Curry: Let's thanks some
people this is a value for value

1540
01:35:09,060 --> 01:35:10,980
if you want to learn more about
that and by the way, I want to

1541
01:35:10,980 --> 01:35:14,100
thank James Cridland for
appropriately plugging value for

1542
01:35:14,100 --> 01:35:20,340
value dot info. But But that's,
that's a an overview of what

1543
01:35:20,340 --> 01:35:23,670
we're talking about here and how
it works. You can support the

1544
01:35:23,670 --> 01:35:26,280
show you support the entire
project you keep the server's

1545
01:35:26,280 --> 01:35:29,610
running, you keep us in the Dr
Pepper which is about all we can

1546
01:35:29,610 --> 01:35:32,730
afford. That's what I'm drinking
right here. And you can do that

1547
01:35:32,730 --> 01:35:35,910
by going to podcast index.org
Scroll down to the bottom. A

1548
01:35:35,910 --> 01:35:39,720
couple ways to support us. Let
me check the tally coin while

1549
01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:43,500
we're at it because people
wanted to send us a note on

1550
01:35:43,500 --> 01:35:46,590
chain Bitcoin. Let's see if
anyone's done it today. drab do

1551
01:35:46,590 --> 01:35:54,450
not do it. Do not do not do it.
Don't press that key don't press

1552
01:35:54,450 --> 01:35:57,780
that button dread. Good nothing
there. Of course you can also

1553
01:35:57,780 --> 01:36:00,870
support us through your with
your Fiat fun coupons. You can

1554
01:36:00,870 --> 01:36:04,590
do that through PayPal. That's
the donate to the red donate

1555
01:36:04,590 --> 01:36:06,930
button there at the bottom. But
what we really love is you got a

1556
01:36:06,930 --> 01:36:10,530
modern podcast app, drop the
legacy go to podcast apps.com

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select any of them that do value
and boost us and that is exactly

1558
01:36:15,600 --> 01:36:18,660
what Mike Neumann did. Mike
Newman

1559
01:36:19,740 --> 01:36:24,930
Unknown: Sakala 20 his blades on
am Paula 101010

1560
01:36:25,320 --> 01:36:28,830
Adam Curry: channels could be a
genre like Sirius XM classic

1561
01:36:28,830 --> 01:36:34,920
rewind, etc. Channel talk is
hot. Yeah. 10101 is a binary

1562
01:36:34,920 --> 01:36:38,850
baller. Ah, there we go. Okay,
binary baller. Thank you so

1563
01:36:38,850 --> 01:36:43,620
much, Mike. We just thank Sam
for his binary baller boost tone

1564
01:36:43,620 --> 01:36:48,480
record 333 33 sending a boost so
I can sit down again after being

1565
01:36:48,480 --> 01:36:50,790
made an example of in front of
class during discussion with

1566
01:36:50,790 --> 01:37:00,150
music feeds. Then we have Sir
Brian of London 31,948 SATs a

1567
01:37:00,210 --> 01:37:03,780
triple Israeli boost Putin don't
fear the Reaper nor do the wind

1568
01:37:03,780 --> 01:37:07,200
the sun or the rain Shabbat
Shalom from Israel. All right,

1569
01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:10,680
Shabbat Shalom, Brian of London,
thank you. And that must be

1570
01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:12,870
coming from hive, where he says

1571
01:37:12,930 --> 01:37:15,210
Dave Jones: this The as we get
permission,

1572
01:37:16,380 --> 01:37:20,490
Adam Curry: the hive reverse
Rube Goldberg machine 6969 from

1573
01:37:20,490 --> 01:37:24,540
Hey, citizen, will podcast and
2.0 artists have an easy way to

1574
01:37:24,540 --> 01:37:29,730
report their earnings to Uncle
Sam or uncle Trudeau? Well, it's

1575
01:37:29,730 --> 01:37:30,870
actually not that hard.

1576
01:37:31,440 --> 01:37:35,010
Dave Jones: I guess I can tell
you, I had this on my list to

1577
01:37:35,010 --> 01:37:37,620
talk about what to do, because
Alex talked about it this week.

1578
01:37:38,160 --> 01:37:41,610
On the podcast, index dot
social, it's really not hard. So

1579
01:37:41,610 --> 01:37:48,900
what, what I do is I go into, I
go into thunder hub, and just

1580
01:37:48,900 --> 01:37:52,260
export everything for the year
there's there's basically six

1581
01:37:52,260 --> 01:37:59,100
files you get in there split up
into on chain, and lightning. So

1582
01:37:59,100 --> 01:38:03,660
you have chain fees, risk
research on chain receives on

1583
01:38:03,660 --> 01:38:07,140
chain sins. So those are sort of
your three reports from that

1584
01:38:07,140 --> 01:38:10,710
they all come out in a CSV file.
So you can open them in Excel.

1585
01:38:11,220 --> 01:38:13,770
Then you have on the lightning
side, you have forwards, which

1586
01:38:13,770 --> 01:38:16,830
are the fees you get for
forwarding lightning payments,

1587
01:38:17,340 --> 01:38:20,640
you get payments that you've
made, which is like a send, and

1588
01:38:20,640 --> 01:38:24,600
you get invoices, which is
payments you've received. So you

1589
01:38:24,660 --> 01:38:30,780
just export all those out, I
take and I ditch the chain send

1590
01:38:32,280 --> 01:38:37,590
out of it. Because 99% of the
time that is just a channel Oh

1591
01:38:37,590 --> 01:38:37,890
channel

1592
01:38:37,890 --> 01:38:38,970
Adam Curry: open or close.

1593
01:38:40,440 --> 01:38:44,400
Dave Jones: And I so then I just
sum all this stuff together, I

1594
01:38:44,400 --> 01:38:46,950
take all the all the the
invoices, everything all the

1595
01:38:46,950 --> 01:38:51,360
invoices, as a as a positive as
income, everything about the

1596
01:38:51,360 --> 01:38:59,580
payments as as an as an expense
or as reducing income. For the

1597
01:38:59,580 --> 01:39:05,040
forwards as income and the
Senate and the fees, excuse me

1598
01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:07,560
the received and the fees, you
just take those accordingly. So

1599
01:39:07,590 --> 01:39:10,080
you basically just you can just
you can take this thing and just

1600
01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:13,050
stick it in a huge spreadsheet
and just just sum it all when

1601
01:39:13,050 --> 01:39:17,970
you get in and it exports all
the Fiat values. What, how much

1602
01:39:17,970 --> 01:39:21,300
it was worth that day. So for
every transaction that's got the

1603
01:39:21,300 --> 01:39:24,750
dollar amount of what it was
worth that day. So I do that and

1604
01:39:24,750 --> 01:39:28,320
send it to our accountant. It
sounds complicated to explain,

1605
01:39:28,320 --> 01:39:32,010
but if you see it is just really
not that hard.

1606
01:39:32,100 --> 01:39:34,260
Adam Curry: Now the best thing
is you do it. This is what I

1607
01:39:34,260 --> 01:39:39,600
love about it. Brother, thank
you so much. I'm so happy you do

1608
01:39:39,600 --> 01:39:39,900
that.

1609
01:39:40,290 --> 01:39:44,460
Dave Jones: By the way. It's
worth noting. We did we did have

1610
01:39:44,460 --> 01:39:48,990
to you know file our tax return
$750 for the tax prep fee.

1611
01:39:49,980 --> 01:39:53,220
Adam Curry: No, it's actually
more because I had to ask our

1612
01:39:53,250 --> 01:39:58,950
law firm if we had correctly
filed and close everything in

1613
01:39:58,950 --> 01:40:02,190
the state of Washington. soon.
Did they charge you an hour for

1614
01:40:02,370 --> 01:40:06,930
$368? Brother? Oh, yeah. Oh
yeah.

1615
01:40:06,959 --> 01:40:10,469
Dave Jones: 1000 bucks for tax
prep. Now. Yeah. Ouch.

1616
01:40:11,550 --> 01:40:14,220
Adam Curry: Now we know 8888
From Fletcher. Thank you brother

1617
01:40:14,250 --> 01:40:18,330
Chad F eight. Oh, he says it's a
Bookstagram Yeah, we got you.

1618
01:40:18,540 --> 01:40:21,840
There's Dred Scott with a one to
one to one two. We need to we

1619
01:40:21,840 --> 01:40:25,920
need a name for that kind of
boost. That was his boosting

1620
01:40:25,920 --> 01:40:30,060
bigger for more namespace talk.
And you got it. Another NBA get

1621
01:40:30,090 --> 01:40:34,680
another Bookstagram from Chad F.
We got well, there was a Dred

1622
01:40:34,680 --> 01:40:41,370
Scott One to One to One. Darrin
No, we gave him a big baller for

1623
01:40:41,370 --> 01:40:45,270
the one on one on one. Oh.
Another big payment. Y'all are

1624
01:40:45,270 --> 01:40:48,690
awesome. Play the big baller
jingle to annoy sir bemrose

1625
01:40:48,690 --> 01:40:56,730
Please go pod. I guess he hates
it. 111 stats from some quack

1626
01:40:56,790 --> 01:41:00,960
que Dobie das 25,000 We
appreciate that bore log with

1627
01:41:00,960 --> 01:41:08,250
10,000 There's the Fletcher the
Satoshi slam with 88,888

1628
01:41:08,250 --> 01:41:13,440
Blueberry was 6969 Why we Zawawi
I want a smartcast Okay, okay.

1629
01:41:14,580 --> 01:41:20,610
Eric p p 33,333. Satoshis bigger
than fed coin a Fed now coin.

1630
01:41:21,390 --> 01:41:25,380
We've got to talk about that.
Hey, hopefully we'll be okay now

1631
01:41:25,440 --> 01:41:28,860
the Fed now for your booster
grams. I can see critical and

1632
01:41:28,860 --> 01:41:33,330
getting ready. Dred Scott one to
one to one with that was his

1633
01:41:33,330 --> 01:41:37,410
test right? We got boost from
the pre boost than we have 6969

1634
01:41:37,410 --> 01:41:40,170
from a citizen raised his hand
live ready to get lit. This is

1635
01:41:40,170 --> 01:41:47,970
just before we started. We got
let's see Pfeiffer with striper

1636
01:41:47,970 --> 01:41:51,600
boost. 7777 Howdy, Adam and
Dave, thank you for your

1637
01:41:51,600 --> 01:41:56,490
courage. PSF Dave likes green
likes the green sky or GreenSky.

1638
01:41:56,490 --> 01:41:57,240
Green sky.

1639
01:41:58,110 --> 01:41:59,220
Dave Jones: Green Sky Blue
Grass.

1640
01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:01,800
Adam Curry: I guess we have a
show on the no agenda stream

1641
01:42:01,800 --> 01:42:06,360
Sunday mornings for that yo.
Some kind of music maybe I'm not

1642
01:42:06,360 --> 01:42:06,750
sure.

1643
01:42:07,290 --> 01:42:08,490
Dave Jones: Green sky bluegrass.

1644
01:42:08,880 --> 01:42:12,450
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, there you
go. That's what we were boosted

1645
01:42:12,450 --> 01:42:15,060
and pre boosted. Thank you all
so much, Dave. I'm sure you have

1646
01:42:15,090 --> 01:42:16,470
many more that we can think

1647
01:42:17,070 --> 01:42:20,400
Dave Jones: we have one.
donation to PayPal.

1648
01:42:20,639 --> 01:42:23,069
Adam Curry: That's all whipped.
That's one too many really? I

1649
01:42:23,069 --> 01:42:26,759
mean, for the conversion, but we
appreciate it.

1650
01:42:27,300 --> 01:42:29,400
Dave Jones: $20 from Curtis
Peterson Thank you, Curtis.

1651
01:42:29,400 --> 01:42:32,550
Thank you Curtis shade,
appreciate it. No note he Curtis

1652
01:42:32,550 --> 01:42:36,660
did not leave a note. We got one
on one on one from C Dubs.

1653
01:42:37,230 --> 01:42:40,920
Through podcast index website
and he just has a little ASCII

1654
01:42:40,920 --> 01:42:43,350
emoji. He says Yeah. Did anyone

1655
01:42:43,350 --> 01:42:46,920
Adam Curry: ever look at the at
the get Alby multiple approval

1656
01:42:46,920 --> 01:42:50,790
budget flow process that we
talked about on the last show?

1657
01:42:51,330 --> 01:42:53,490
Dave Jones: If they did, they
did not tell me Okay, so

1658
01:42:53,550 --> 01:42:55,470
Adam Curry: I do not know. I'm
just raising my hand again.

1659
01:42:55,470 --> 01:42:58,350
That's kind of confusing for new
people. And it kind of kind of

1660
01:42:58,350 --> 01:43:00,240
ignores the splits often.

1661
01:43:00,840 --> 01:43:04,290
Dave Jones: Steve Webb oh gee
God caster 7777 striper boost,

1662
01:43:04,290 --> 01:43:07,140
he says hi guys, just checking
in from last ring media Central.

1663
01:43:07,320 --> 01:43:08,160
Go podcasting.

1664
01:43:08,550 --> 01:43:14,130
Adam Curry: And, you know, his,
his daily Bible is very often in

1665
01:43:14,130 --> 01:43:18,600
the fountain top 10 podcast. top
of the charts. Yeah. Good to see

1666
01:43:18,600 --> 01:43:18,690
you.

1667
01:43:20,250 --> 01:43:22,410
Dave Jones: Steve Webb back
again. And he said in 77. He

1668
01:43:22,410 --> 01:43:26,100
says, I know the guy who brought
the striper guys to the Lord. As

1669
01:43:26,100 --> 01:43:28,800
far as I know. He's still in
contact with Michael Sweet. I'll

1670
01:43:28,800 --> 01:43:31,200
see if I can let him know about
the striper booths. All right.

1671
01:43:32,160 --> 01:43:33,120
The funny Hey, wouldn't it

1672
01:43:33,120 --> 01:43:35,490
Adam Curry: be great to get
striper on value for value?

1673
01:43:37,980 --> 01:43:39,750
Dave Jones: Man if they could
pull that off? That would be

1674
01:43:39,750 --> 01:43:40,500
hilarious.

1675
01:43:40,530 --> 01:43:43,200
Adam Curry: Yeah. It would be
the best and we should get

1676
01:43:43,230 --> 01:43:46,800
striper. Lilian X. Who else what
else can we rope into

1677
01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:50,040
Dave Jones: the Lillian axon the
you can you can evangelize. I

1678
01:43:50,040 --> 01:43:50,700
can try.

1679
01:43:50,730 --> 01:43:52,890
Adam Curry: I mean, they got
they got real label deals, but

1680
01:43:52,890 --> 01:43:55,590
if they can play outside their
label deal Yeah, why not?

1681
01:43:56,430 --> 01:43:59,340
Dave Jones: Macintosh 2100 SATs
he says Dave Cypress did the

1682
01:43:59,340 --> 01:44:02,460
bank haircut. I don't remember
the details. But it was a fail.

1683
01:44:02,970 --> 01:44:06,450
Fail in situation and accounts
had a percentage removed to save

1684
01:44:06,450 --> 01:44:07,500
the quote system.

1685
01:44:07,530 --> 01:44:08,850
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, that's a
bail in.

1686
01:44:09,360 --> 01:44:10,650
Dave Jones: There's a Balian.
Okay. Yeah.

1687
01:44:10,709 --> 01:44:13,919
Adam Curry: I remember that. We
had no agenda stream, no agenda

1688
01:44:13,919 --> 01:44:19,859
had Mr. Oil. And Mr. Oil was a
huge supporter of the of the

1689
01:44:19,859 --> 01:44:24,149
podcast. And he got he had like,
at some point, he had a Bitcoin

1690
01:44:24,149 --> 01:44:28,919
mining pool set up. And he was
he was just going but he taught

1691
01:44:28,919 --> 01:44:32,189
me a lot about pipelines. And
then all of a sudden, Mr. Oil

1692
01:44:32,189 --> 01:44:36,149
was like freaking out. Let's go.
And he's Russian, I think. And,

1693
01:44:36,389 --> 01:44:39,419
I mean, Cyprus, they're stealing
our money. The bank is stealing

1694
01:44:39,419 --> 01:44:42,989
our money and they literally
went there personally, to try

1695
01:44:42,989 --> 01:44:47,939
and get their money out in cash
out of the Cyprus bank, and they

1696
01:44:47,939 --> 01:44:50,579
did not get all of it. There was
a bail in and they lost, I

1697
01:44:50,579 --> 01:44:54,449
think, sufficient amount of
money. And I haven't really

1698
01:44:54,449 --> 01:44:55,859
heard from Mr. Oil since

1699
01:44:56,910 --> 01:44:59,310
Dave Jones: he out. He lost an
oligarch I think

1700
01:44:59,310 --> 01:45:00,120
Adam Curry: so I think for

1701
01:45:01,380 --> 01:45:04,710
Dave Jones: mere mortals podcast
20 to 22 the row of ducks they

1702
01:45:04,710 --> 01:45:08,400
found Denise's fun story on
Perth Mint. I used to own shares

1703
01:45:08,400 --> 01:45:12,090
in them as some exposure to
gold. One day in 2019 I woke up

1704
01:45:12,090 --> 01:45:15,210
and found that they had
literally taken away one share

1705
01:45:15,330 --> 01:45:19,140
of the 100 owned called up the
ASX and they were extremely

1706
01:45:19,140 --> 01:45:22,080
shaky and whether it was legal
to do that some BS about

1707
01:45:22,080 --> 01:45:25,530
administration rollback blah
blah, are dodgy through and

1708
01:45:25,530 --> 01:45:25,950
through

1709
01:45:26,040 --> 01:45:34,110
Adam Curry: Wow reduction ground
report from from Down Under Wow.

1710
01:45:34,230 --> 01:45:38,820
So those guys have been scammers
all along. Not just a diluting

1711
01:45:38,820 --> 01:45:39,480
the gold

1712
01:45:43,170 --> 01:45:45,540
Dave Jones: let's see we got
10,000 SATs from Dave Jackson

1713
01:45:45,540 --> 01:45:47,910
the school of podcasting says
love the stats page check out

1714
01:45:47,910 --> 01:45:51,660
the newly rebranded future of
podcasting.net. Yes with myself

1715
01:45:51,660 --> 01:45:52,950
and Daniel J. Lewis.

1716
01:45:52,980 --> 01:45:55,140
Adam Curry: I liked that show a
lot. Yeah, it's a great show. I

1717
01:45:55,140 --> 01:45:56,400
like that show a lot. Yeah.

1718
01:45:57,180 --> 01:46:00,360
Dave Jones: Mike Dell, getting
in on the striper action 77 7070

1719
01:46:00,360 --> 01:46:03,810
pod verse he says leaving Vegas
boost listing at the airport.

1720
01:46:04,560 --> 01:46:09,900
Boost boost boost gene ever 3333
through fountain he says boost

1721
01:46:14,310 --> 01:46:18,420
pneumatic coder 5555 through pod
verse he says I listened to

1722
01:46:18,420 --> 01:46:22,710
podcasts with shucks bone
conducting headset. In December

1723
01:46:22,710 --> 01:46:25,770
I developed headaches for my jaw
that lasted three months. I

1724
01:46:25,770 --> 01:46:28,110
couldn't figure out why until
you started talking about pots

1725
01:46:28,110 --> 01:46:32,040
beading. I realized it may have
been caused by listening at 1.5x

1726
01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:36,300
for no problems when I listened
that 1x ADAM You saved my life.

1727
01:46:37,200 --> 01:46:40,140
Adam Curry: Another life saved
or created right?

1728
01:46:40,590 --> 01:46:41,610
Dave Jones: There's been

1729
01:46:42,750 --> 01:46:45,870
Adam Curry: no I was gonna say
we have cured him from pod the

1730
01:46:45,900 --> 01:46:47,370
pod speeding use disorder.

1731
01:46:48,000 --> 01:46:51,540
Dave Jones: Yeah, that's right.
Yep, yep. Now he's just a nice

1732
01:46:51,540 --> 01:46:58,920
just to pull. It's not a
disorder, I guess. Per gene been

1733
01:46:58,920 --> 01:47:03,390
33 See me 1337 lead booster cast
medic, he says regarding the

1734
01:47:03,390 --> 01:47:06,690
chat on the tag for channels as
a listener. I like the idea of

1735
01:47:06,690 --> 01:47:09,240
making it easier to find other
shows from a network whose

1736
01:47:09,240 --> 01:47:12,720
podcasts I'm already listening
to. This proposal sounds like a

1737
01:47:12,720 --> 01:47:16,140
way that could easily happen in
app instead of going out of the

1738
01:47:16,140 --> 01:47:18,660
podcast app going back to the
website and then back to the

1739
01:47:18,660 --> 01:47:19,410
podcast app.

1740
01:47:19,469 --> 01:47:22,739
Adam Curry: Whoa, whoa whoa
whoa, you got to fly that by me

1741
01:47:22,739 --> 01:47:23,099
again.

1742
01:47:24,059 --> 01:47:26,369
Dave Jones: Now he's he's saying
he likes the idea because you

1743
01:47:26,369 --> 01:47:32,339
can pull the the it keeps you in
the flow podcast app can bring

1744
01:47:32,339 --> 01:47:35,309
that those recommendations to
you instead of urine go find

1745
01:47:35,309 --> 01:47:35,849
them Sure.

1746
01:47:35,880 --> 01:47:36,840
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Oh, sure.

1747
01:47:37,950 --> 01:47:40,980
Dave Jones: Khalil 10,000 SATs
through founding says as a

1748
01:47:40,980 --> 01:47:43,830
musician myself all that talk
about music podcasts got me all

1749
01:47:43,830 --> 01:47:48,600
hot and bothered. I might have
to might have to build one of

1750
01:47:48,600 --> 01:47:52,380
those music apps so I can sit
still again. Go podcasting. How

1751
01:47:52,380 --> 01:47:53,010
you doing boost

1752
01:47:53,190 --> 01:47:56,190
Adam Curry: podcast. All right.
Sounds

1753
01:47:57,900 --> 01:48:00,660
Dave Jones: good. You I guess so
that would be a good looking at

1754
01:48:00,660 --> 01:48:03,240
Adam Curry: but Oh, yeah. Well,
we can use that and for sure.

1755
01:48:03,690 --> 01:48:06,870
Dave Jones: Yeah. Mere Mortals
podcast Karen back again. 2223

1756
01:48:06,870 --> 01:48:09,780
Fountain he says I held out as
long as I could. Where can I get

1757
01:48:09,780 --> 01:48:12,570
the bootleg copy of this
infamous DJ said that I've heard

1758
01:48:12,570 --> 01:48:15,960
only contains Non copyrighted
music. Well, you can't it's not

1759
01:48:15,960 --> 01:48:16,380
available.

1760
01:48:16,410 --> 01:48:18,450
Adam Curry: Yes, it was. I'm
sorry. It's just not available

1761
01:48:18,480 --> 01:48:19,650
for anyone. It's just not

1762
01:48:19,740 --> 01:48:25,500
Dave Jones: the arrow statica
2376 He says I own V for V

1763
01:48:25,500 --> 01:48:29,130
player.com I'd be happy to
donate it to podcast index.org

1764
01:48:30,570 --> 01:48:37,950
Adam Curry: Um I would I
wouldn't. I would hold on to

1765
01:48:37,950 --> 01:48:40,320
that. No,

1766
01:48:40,620 --> 01:48:43,230
Dave Jones: she wait for I don't
really have a good use for it

1767
01:48:43,230 --> 01:48:43,680
right now.

1768
01:48:44,400 --> 01:48:52,860
Adam Curry: Maybe V for replay
ya play.com But hold on to a man

1769
01:48:52,860 --> 01:48:55,110
you so much. Someone will want
that terminal one time.

1770
01:48:55,650 --> 01:48:58,650
Dave Jones: aerostatic again,
12,000 sets through felting 200

1771
01:48:58,650 --> 01:49:03,090
sets emitted equals 12,000 sets
an hour equals about $2 on

1772
01:49:03,090 --> 01:49:06,480
312 23 That's fair for an hour
of entertainment.

1773
01:49:06,810 --> 01:49:09,240
Adam Curry: Well that's my
standard and then I'll move on

1774
01:49:09,240 --> 01:49:13,770
to this I've been boosting less
and I'm trying to not boost all

1775
01:49:13,770 --> 01:49:17,880
the shows all the time because
I'm sick of hearing myself in

1776
01:49:17,880 --> 01:49:19,680
the in the booster gram
segments.

1777
01:49:20,010 --> 01:49:22,530
Dave Jones: Yeah, yeah for you.
And you know it's just like here

1778
01:49:22,530 --> 01:49:23,010
need to

1779
01:49:24,150 --> 01:49:29,910
Adam Curry: I deserve that. I
deserve that. Well, your wishes

1780
01:49:29,910 --> 01:49:33,090
granted everyone's poor now I'm
not boosting anymore. No more

1781
01:49:33,090 --> 01:49:35,250
beer at Podcast Movement
contagion.

1782
01:49:36,180 --> 01:49:39,930
Dave Jones: Joe W recessional
Richards through fountain No.

1783
01:49:40,290 --> 01:49:45,210
Note. Clerk. I'm glad he didn't
stick a note down in his satchel

1784
01:49:45,210 --> 01:49:47,520
Richard because then I'd have to
dig it. Oh, you don't want to do

1785
01:49:47,520 --> 01:49:51,870
that? No, no, no, no, no.
Clarkie in 25,000 says he says

1786
01:49:51,870 --> 01:49:55,050
new episode of GG no read the
indie podcast should have

1787
01:49:55,050 --> 01:49:58,020
dropped this past week. All
nerds please support K Thanks.

1788
01:49:58,020 --> 01:49:58,710
Bye

1789
01:49:58,710 --> 01:50:01,290
Adam Curry: bye. Hey thanks for

1790
01:50:01,620 --> 01:50:06,600
Dave Jones: Nicolas be 58 21,000
SATs for fountain premium let's

1791
01:50:06,600 --> 01:50:12,270
effing go podcasting. No No
Yeah,

1792
01:50:13,559 --> 01:50:16,019
Adam Curry: we support we want
you to support the podcast apps

1793
01:50:16,019 --> 01:50:18,719
if you're doing premium then I
think fountain takes away your

1794
01:50:18,719 --> 01:50:22,619
your fountain fee right. That's
a great way to do it. By the

1795
01:50:22,619 --> 01:50:23,429
way, I think it's great.

1796
01:50:24,059 --> 01:50:26,459
Dave Jones: Nicholas BVBA is
back again when he says another

1797
01:50:26,459 --> 01:50:31,949
one just for fun. Well, thank
you 21,000 says, boost chat F

1798
01:50:31,949 --> 01:50:36,179
31415 pod verse he says Pi Day
donation.

1799
01:50:37,200 --> 01:50:39,480
Adam Curry: Oh, beautiful,
beautiful.

1800
01:50:40,200 --> 01:50:43,710
Dave Jones: Coal McCormick 3333
through fountain he says You

1801
01:50:43,710 --> 01:50:50,220
guys should look into the
ordinals protocol and see

1802
01:50:50,220 --> 01:50:53,160
alignment with podcasting. 2.0
the ability to transcribe a

1803
01:50:53,160 --> 01:50:55,620
Satoshi with media feels super
important.

1804
01:50:57,660 --> 01:51:02,370
Adam Curry: You know, I'm not so
sure. Yeah, it's very expensive.

1805
01:51:04,110 --> 01:51:08,250
Dave Jones: Cola Mona. Do 20 is
do 20,000 SATs status is is

1806
01:51:08,250 --> 01:51:10,470
great show love you guys sir.
libera.

1807
01:51:10,650 --> 01:51:14,430
Adam Curry: Bow man. People
thrown big, big, big bunches of

1808
01:51:14,430 --> 01:51:17,580
satis I'm premorbid budgets

1809
01:51:17,580 --> 01:51:20,280
Dave Jones: come in Kevin bass
70,000 SATs the founding

1810
01:51:21,420 --> 01:51:23,820
reopening a channel to me.
Here's your kick back go

1811
01:51:23,820 --> 01:51:24,510
podcasting.

1812
01:51:24,540 --> 01:51:28,290
Adam Curry: Oh, that's nice.
Didn't have to do that. Now. We

1813
01:51:28,320 --> 01:51:31,860
were happy to open channels
anyone who needs it just try not

1814
01:51:31,860 --> 01:51:35,580
to get zapped through it which I
think he I think he actually

1815
01:51:35,580 --> 01:51:40,710
opened two or 50k SATs to us.
Because he got he got tour he

1816
01:51:40,710 --> 01:51:43,260
got kicked off during the Zappa
Palooza

1817
01:51:43,770 --> 01:51:44,190
Dave Jones: that

1818
01:51:44,190 --> 01:51:48,210
Adam Curry: this happening is
happening. And so I opened a

1819
01:51:48,210 --> 01:51:50,850
500,000 back to him but that's
fine. But anyway, thank you very

1820
01:51:50,850 --> 01:51:53,760
much, but you don't have to do
that. And again, that's why we

1821
01:51:53,760 --> 01:51:58,320
keep all of all sides that come
in. Do not leave the podcast

1822
01:51:58,320 --> 01:52:01,800
index note and we use it for
routing at cheap rates best

1823
01:52:01,800 --> 01:52:02,160
price

1824
01:52:02,820 --> 01:52:06,270
Dave Jones: it's like a bailout
plan just like everybody every

1825
01:52:06,300 --> 01:52:08,640
year it's like a bail in
everybody boost the show so that

1826
01:52:08,640 --> 01:52:12,030
we can before the feast open
channels to everybody to

1827
01:52:12,030 --> 01:52:15,780
Adam Curry: bail in. Boosting is
a bail and I love it. Good one.

1828
01:52:16,410 --> 01:52:18,990
Dave Jones: For log 80,000 SATs
through pod verse he says all

1829
01:52:18,990 --> 01:52:21,030
your hard work is much
appreciated. All I can say to

1830
01:52:21,030 --> 01:52:23,730
both of you is thank you again
for this project. Welcome.

1831
01:52:24,150 --> 01:52:26,370
Adam Curry: Lots of people
working on it, man. Thank you.

1832
01:52:26,400 --> 01:52:26,610
Yeah,

1833
01:52:26,610 --> 01:52:30,930
Dave Jones: lots of people.
Let's see him. 1776 He says

1834
01:52:30,930 --> 01:52:35,220
thanks for the book tip on the
Fed. Liberty boost of 1776 Have

1835
01:52:35,220 --> 01:52:39,360
you read books by John Baptiste
Say best premises learn Linda

1836
01:52:39,360 --> 01:52:41,130
Scott and Martin Linda Scott No
I have not No I

1837
01:52:41,130 --> 01:52:47,280
Adam Curry: have not either. So
much to read so much. Yes, it's

1838
01:52:47,280 --> 01:52:49,950
hard. I've actually gone to some
audio books while driving in the

1839
01:52:49,950 --> 01:52:52,650
car you know supplanting
podcasting just so I can get a

1840
01:52:52,650 --> 01:52:53,220
book in

1841
01:52:54,270 --> 01:52:56,910
Dave Jones: I'm not ready to
jump at the say but I have read

1842
01:52:56,910 --> 01:53:01,800
Frederick busty out and to me
that's it Asik if nobody has

1843
01:53:01,800 --> 01:53:06,900
read the if you haven't read the
law, you must read the law. It

1844
01:53:06,900 --> 01:53:14,400
is the moral substrate for every
thing that every thought about

1845
01:53:14,400 --> 01:53:16,410
government to me, it's it's

1846
01:53:16,410 --> 01:53:18,840
Adam Curry: that empower. Okay,
the law. Got it. Yeah.

1847
01:53:19,980 --> 01:53:23,910
Dave Jones: Comic Strip blogger,
the delimiters 30 3015. Through

1848
01:53:23,910 --> 01:53:28,020
fountain he says, delectable
Dave and advancing Adam. You're

1849
01:53:28,020 --> 01:53:31,050
all inspiring endeavors are a
sleeping giant, patiently

1850
01:53:31,050 --> 01:53:34,500
awaiting the implosion of a
debased media. Thankful

1851
01:53:34,500 --> 01:53:37,860
podcasting Power Rangers of
getting no nation are enabled by

1852
01:53:37,860 --> 01:53:42,330
your work to spread info sanely
across the realm, including go

1853
01:53:42,330 --> 01:53:46,080
getter Gregory Forman, with the
AI dot cooking show, which

1854
01:53:46,080 --> 01:53:49,890
documents alleged artificial
intelligence as it is used to

1855
01:53:49,890 --> 01:53:52,680
hypnotize humanity. Yo CSB.

1856
01:53:53,970 --> 01:53:57,570
Adam Curry: Podcasting Power
Rangers I like that. That's a

1857
01:53:57,570 --> 01:54:00,810
show title. Alliteration is
everything in my book. Thanks

1858
01:54:00,840 --> 01:54:04,320
comics your blog and he just he
boosts every single show I do me

1859
01:54:04,320 --> 01:54:07,290
he we should have the comics
your blogger channel all the

1860
01:54:07,290 --> 01:54:11,220
shows the connoisseur blogger
boosts that's a good that's a

1861
01:54:11,220 --> 01:54:13,860
great is that a valid use for a
channel? Can we do that?

1862
01:54:14,430 --> 01:54:15,420
Dave Jones: 100%

1863
01:54:15,450 --> 01:54:16,530
Adam Curry: Oh

1864
01:54:22,020 --> 01:54:25,740
you did it. You did it. I had a
cued up to fire.

1865
01:54:27,690 --> 01:54:31,170
Dave Jones: Monthly killer by
dollars. Jeffrey Retford. $5

1866
01:54:31,170 --> 01:54:36,570
Chris cow, and $5 Jeremy Kevin
all $10 Derek J Fisker. My

1867
01:54:36,570 --> 01:54:43,470
favorite name $21 Paul Saltzman
$22.22 David Norman $25 Daymond

1868
01:54:43,470 --> 01:54:48,510
Cassie Jack $15 and Jeremy
gerdts $5 That's our group Thank

1869
01:54:48,510 --> 01:54:51,450
Adam Curry: you very much
monthly Thank you boosters Thank

1870
01:54:51,450 --> 01:54:55,320
you pay powers. Everybody not
let you know I have a bad

1871
01:54:55,320 --> 01:54:58,200
feeling about drugs. Because you
know he's just going to do some

1872
01:54:58,200 --> 01:55:00,600
talent. We'll make sure no, we
didn't do a tally Coyne all of a

1873
01:55:00,600 --> 01:55:03,330
sudden, he promised he promised
to please don't because I'm

1874
01:55:03,330 --> 01:55:06,570
gonna close it now we won't see
it if you do it. Thank you all

1875
01:55:06,570 --> 01:55:10,380
so much. It's really
appreciated. And it keeps me It

1876
01:55:10,380 --> 01:55:13,950
keeps us going. And really does.
We actually, I mean, I'm just

1877
01:55:13,950 --> 01:55:17,460
gonna say I would love to
upgrade some of our hardware, if

1878
01:55:17,460 --> 01:55:22,440
only for the issue that we've
seen over the past week, which

1879
01:55:22,440 --> 01:55:30,420
is a large queue backed up
because of the over huge usage

1880
01:55:30,450 --> 01:55:34,470
of Ponting. And here's what
happened for me twice. Actually,

1881
01:55:34,470 --> 01:55:38,310
it happened to happen with
Corinne, the keeper. But it's a

1882
01:55:38,310 --> 01:55:42,150
little more pronounced when it
happens to no agenda. So on

1883
01:55:42,150 --> 01:55:46,860
Sunday, Sunday, but today, no
Thursday yesterday, produced no

1884
01:55:46,860 --> 01:55:53,940
agenda. Now by request. I, I
first I send out the tweet and

1885
01:55:53,940 --> 01:55:58,890
the tute. And then I grabbed the
URL of the tooth or no agenda,

1886
01:55:58,890 --> 01:56:05,070
social and use that as the
social interact route post,

1887
01:56:06,210 --> 01:56:09,630
which makes sense. And I think
people very smart to say, hey,

1888
01:56:09,630 --> 01:56:12,300
why don't you do it here? Why do
you create a new post, we get

1889
01:56:12,330 --> 01:56:17,160
just two things now. And so I
did that, and I ping the pod

1890
01:56:17,160 --> 01:56:22,920
ping. And then it just wasn't
updating. And what you get then

1891
01:56:22,920 --> 01:56:26,370
is people have seen that tute or
the tweet and they want to get

1892
01:56:26,370 --> 01:56:30,630
it in their app. And then they
get mad at me they're so spoiled

1893
01:56:30,630 --> 01:56:36,900
by the 92nd update. Like yeah,
it's not bloated to found him

1894
01:56:36,930 --> 01:56:40,710
You didn't upload it to pod
verse. He's not working on Casta

1895
01:56:40,710 --> 01:56:47,520
manic like what am I gonna do? I
don't know what to do. And it's

1896
01:56:47,520 --> 01:56:52,230
like 1112 13 minutes and like so
I hit the pod ping again. I see

1897
01:56:52,230 --> 01:56:57,330
it come through like it's coming
through. But there was just a

1898
01:56:57,330 --> 01:57:02,130
backup you had we had like 900
shows in the queue because of

1899
01:57:02,130 --> 01:57:05,070
something Buzzsprout was doing I
mean, that which is valid I

1900
01:57:05,070 --> 01:57:07,890
don't know what they were doing
but it doesn't matter. We just

1901
01:57:07,890 --> 01:57:09,330
had a backup massive.

1902
01:57:09,840 --> 01:57:13,500
Dave Jones: This will it's not
it's it's not worth focusing on

1903
01:57:13,500 --> 01:57:16,890
because this will be fixed.
Without without throwing

1904
01:57:16,890 --> 01:57:17,340
hardware.

1905
01:57:17,370 --> 01:57:20,070
Adam Curry: Okay, here I am
trying to get you bigger

1906
01:57:20,070 --> 01:57:26,100
hardware. I mean, what an ally
up and fumbles the ball What do

1907
01:57:26,100 --> 01:57:27,360
you call it? A basketball

1908
01:57:30,390 --> 01:57:38,250
Dave Jones: good one. You really
nailed that right? Yeah. It's

1909
01:57:38,250 --> 01:57:39,570
three pointer touchdown.

1910
01:57:42,900 --> 01:57:44,610
Adam Curry: So we don't need

1911
01:57:46,260 --> 01:57:51,090
Dave Jones: my my desire for
bigger hardware. Does not over

1912
01:57:51,120 --> 01:57:55,260
does not does not override my
desire for small budgets.

1913
01:57:57,000 --> 01:58:00,030
Adam Curry: With you let us know
when we need bigger hardware.

1914
01:58:00,750 --> 01:58:03,060
Dave Jones: Eel, you will know
you will? Absolutely no.

1915
01:58:03,240 --> 01:58:05,730
Adam Curry: Does that mean it'll
be too late when I know because

1916
01:58:05,730 --> 01:58:06,720
I've been practicing

1917
01:58:06,810 --> 01:58:12,030
Dave Jones: threatening.
Formative. You will know. You'll

1918
01:58:12,030 --> 01:58:13,320
know when you get the emails.

1919
01:58:16,590 --> 01:58:18,930
Adam Curry: Alright, man, what
else? Anything else for before

1920
01:58:18,930 --> 01:58:20,430
we closed the door on the

1921
01:58:21,420 --> 01:58:24,390
Dave Jones: Nam? Good. We'll
we'll talk about good resolver

1922
01:58:24,420 --> 01:58:29,580
once it's once it's awesome. A
couple of weeks. And other than

1923
01:58:29,580 --> 01:58:32,460
that, yeah, and I'm good. I'm
out of here for now.

1924
01:58:32,550 --> 01:58:35,010
Adam Curry: All right, brother.
I hope you feel better. Yeah,

1925
01:58:35,010 --> 01:58:38,790
thanks. Suck. So how's your
daughter? She okay. She, she?

1926
01:58:38,820 --> 01:58:43,710
Oh, yes. She's Oh, she's fine.
You got it. Okay. All right,

1927
01:58:43,710 --> 01:58:45,510
man. Thank you so much for that.
Appreciate it. Have a great

1928
01:58:45,510 --> 01:58:49,290
weekend. Me too. Okay. And of
course, chat room. Thank you

1929
01:58:49,290 --> 01:58:52,200
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