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Episode 270: YOLO Guy

Episode 270: YOLO Guy
Episode 270: YOLO Guy
Podcasting 2.0
Episode 270: YOLO Guy

Episode 270: YOLO Guy

Podcasting 2.0 September 11th 2026 Episode 270 - "YOLO Guy

Dave waves the whitflag on agentic coding and podcasting beneifts!

01 - ๐Ÿ˜‚ THE PODCAST RIG ATE ITSELF โ€” AND IS NOW RUNNING OMARCHY

<b>Sunday 6 Sep:</b> "<b>My Umbrel docker containers did not survive the OS upgrade from Ubuntu 20 to 24 on my podcast rig.</b> <b>This is why I never upgrade anything.</b> I still have some Ubuntu 12 and 18 servers running." โ€” a sentence that should be on a T-shirt at Podcast Movement.

<b>Tuesday, the diagnosis, and he takes it on the chin:</b> "It was a <b>v1 to v2 docker compose transition issue</b>. It was <b>very much my fault for not RTFM before doing do-release-upgrade</b>." Plus: "doing <b>2 upgrades back to back</b> to get from LTS 20 to 24."

<b>To @ericpp, same day, the two-line eulogy:</b> "<b>It's incredibly borked.</b>" โ†’ "<b>I'm closing the channel you have open to me because I'm going to have to wipe this box.</b>" โ€” note that the lightning channel was collateral damage. That matters for ยง02.

<b>Thursday 10 Sep, the rebuild:</b> "<b>Omarchy on the podcast rig now. Let's see how this goes.</b>" and then, shortly after, "<b>Podping gossip watcher up and running on it.</b>"

<b>The genuine question underneath:</b> the podcast rig runs podping's gossip watcher. <b>What is actually load-bearing on that box</b>, and should anything that the wider ecosystem depends on be sitting on a machine you're willing to wipe on a Tuesday?

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09 - ๐Ÿค– THE ANTHROPIC ADVENT CALENDAR

<b>@js to you directly, 11 Sep:</b> "@adam <b>it's like an advent calendar until the IPO โ€” behind today's door is</b>..." and then the Anthropic threat-intelligence report.

Anthropic โ€” Detecting and countering misuse (11 Sep PDF)

<b>The line JS pulled out:</b> "<b>These actors carried out a sustained effort to develop guided weapons, using Claude to design guidance software. They did test-fire a guided rocket. This field test appears to have failed</b>: within hours, the ac[tors]..."

<b>And the prediction, two days earlier:</b> "<b>can you _imagine_ what stunts anthropic has planned for around the IPO timeline in a few months? gonna be great.</b>"

<b>The board-meeting angle:</b> every one of these reports is simultaneously a safety disclosure and a capability advertisement. <b>Publishing "our model was used to design a guided rocket" is a warning and a brochure at the same time</b> โ€” and the IPO is in a few months.

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00 - ๐Ÿ”ฅ STEP ONE OF THE SCARY STUFF โ€” THE NEW 'PODCASTS' IDENTITY TABLE

<b>The lead, and it's Dave's.</b> Wednesday 3 Sep: "#api The new <b>`podcasts` table is now being written to by default on all new incoming feeds</b> and the <b>conflict queue is being populated for merge decisions</b>. <b>This is step 1 of the scary stuff.</b> Let's hope nothing catches fire."

@dave โ€” the podcasts table goes live (3 Sep)

<b>Thursday 4 Sep, step one lands:</b> "#api <b>All feed ingestion paths now use the new 'podcasts' identity table.</b> Spent the morning cleaning up a lot of old error log debris I've been neglecting for years <b>so I can have clean logs for the next step</b>."

<b>๐Ÿ˜„ And the same morning he broke it and immediately confessed:</b> "#api <b>I would like to pretend (by silence) that I didn't break feed ingestion this morning for about 20 minutes</b> by forgetting to update the env files on the aggregator servers. But, I'm sure @js will produce s[creenshots]..." โ€” Dave knows exactly who is watching.

<b>Tuesday 9 Sep, the number of the week:</b> "#api <b>Refactored the weekly database dump script</b> since it was getting slower and slower and was very old. Re-running the new one now to test. <b>I'm anticipating 4 hour run instead of 28 hours.</b>" โ€” twenty-eight hours to four. That is the dump the whole developer community pulls from.

Podcast Index โ€” public datasets

<b>โญ The board questions, and they are the show:</b>

<b>1.</b> What IS the <b>identity table</b> โ€” in plain language, for an app developer? If a feed changes URL, changes host, or gets duplicated, what does the new table let the Index say that it couldn't say before?

<b>2.</b> The <b>conflict queue</b> is "being populated for merge decisions" โ€” <b>who makes those decisions</b>, and is it automatic or does a human rule on it? Because merging two podcasts that are actually one podcast is exactly the kind of call that goes wrong loudly.

<b>3.</b> You said step one. <b>What is step two</b>, and is that the part where something does catch fire?

<b>4.</b> Twenty-eight hours to four on the dump โ€” <b>what changed</b>, and does that mean the public dataset can now ship more often than weekly?

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Last Modified 09/11/2026 14:34:15 by Freedom Controller
Chapters

00:00 - Show Open โ€” "YOLO Guy"

00:52 - Omarchy โ€” and how you even say it

02:40 - Paving the podcast rig, and the RODECaster

04:53 - Building kernels for fun, and raw-dogging NixOS

09:50 - Agents, Herder, and the top-secret invite

11:25 - Everybody's stats are down โ€” and nobody believes the numbers

12:45 - Midterms, political ad money, and $100 to fill the car

15:26 - "The scary stuff" โ€” into the index

18:15 - Kill all humans

19:56 - Anthropic's 10% โ€” and who actually dies

22:20 - Waving the white flag on agentic coding

24:34 - The DGX arrives โ€” and the price doubled

27:56 - Why the refactor had to happen

31:40 - Do you still know how your own code works?

34:04 - Wendell Berry, and whether code can be art

42:03 - The podcasts table, the feeds table and the GUID

44:30 - Phase two โ€” the ingestion pipeline and merge candidates

46:56 - Your podcast ID never changes โ€” and feed history

49:22 - Hijacked feeds, and the merge dashboard

50:58 - Marked dead โ€” the dark army feed and the missing pub dates

56:32 - Where the refactor stands, and the part that scares him

01:02:33 - "Because I was always YOLO Guy" โ€” the title

01:06:19 - What comes next โ€” decentralised hash space, and a window into the index

01:10:16 - VLC is integrating the Podcast Index

01:15:12 - A French nonprofit, and there is no form 990

01:20:32 - Value for value โ€” supporting the index

01:29:34 - Dana Brunetti on No Agenda, Sunday

01:32:58 - Funeral, birthday, and out

Transcript
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Broadcasting 2.0 for September 11th, 2026, episode 270. YOLO, guys!

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- Hello everybody. Did you miss us? You did? I

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thought so. Hey, it's time once again for Podcasting 2.0.

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This is where the future of podcasting is discussed, sometimes

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made, and you might even see us write it from

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time to time. Everything you need to know, everything you

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want to do better is right here. We are the

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board meeting, and we are the only board meeting that

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runs entirely on Omachi. I'm Adam Curry here in the

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heart of the Texas Hill Country and in Alabama, the

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man who gave everyone a new identity and called it

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scary stuff. My friend on the other end, the one,

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the only, the pod sage, it's Mr. Dave. Speaking of

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Omachi. Omachi. There's no R in Omachi. Omachi. Omachi. Omachi.

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Omachi. That's very Japanese. Omachi. Omachi. I think it is

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a derivative of some Japanese thing. When you crank up,

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pre-show, I was needing to jack you. Yes. I needed

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jacking, baby. Yeah, you jacked me. And so. Have you

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seen the little... audio Slider messaging? The widget in Omachi.

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Yeah. It's like when you slide it, it gives you...

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Like, I don't know, would you... summaries of how loud

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it is. I don't know why this is necessary, but

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it's like 85, okay, at 45% volume, it says easy

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listening. And 55% it says steady groove. I haven't actually

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used that widget. I know it's there. I just clicked

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it to see it. I'm not going to move anything

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because I'm afraid that'll screw something up. It says 77%

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says cranked up, and then 80 or above says party

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mode. Well, remember, this is an opinionated operating system. I

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don't know why you have to be opinionated about the

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description of how loud a thing is. Does it really

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bother you? Is it a real problem? No, no, no.

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No, it does not bother me at all. pipe wire

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tool. Today is the first day that I've even turned

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the RODECaster on since the Omarchi. Oh, okay. Since I

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paved this machine with Omarchi. Oh, okay. So the answer

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to that is no. All right. Well, it's working fine.

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But I will. But I will. I mean, it's just

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really handy because then you can do a lot more,

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and then you get just new controls. But actually looking

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at this control panel, that's actually not bad. I'm kind

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of digging, what if I do this? What do you

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mean, what control panel are you talking about? 1, 2,

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1, 2, 1, 2, what's happening here? This, uh, oh,

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oh, matche! Control panel. Oh, you're talking about the audio

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panel? Yeah. It's quite robust. Oh, the whole OS is

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quite robust. The thing is great. Especially this Quattro. Quattro.

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Omachi Quattro. It's good. That must be the one I've

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got, I guess. How do you tell? No, you do.

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You do. You have it. You have it. That widget

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is a feature of Quattro. Okay, this, yeah, it's listing

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omarchi4.0.3-1. So now you need to get the Currycaster also

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from my GitHub. And you can do your own podcast.

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You won't need me anymore. It'll all be good to

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go. Set. Perfect. Bingo. Boom. But I wouldn't have you.

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You're not on the GitHub. It's just your software. Yeah,

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but in case you want to do a show with

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somebody else. Nah, that's not possible. You've got some spare

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time somewhere, no doubt. Oh, yeah, right. It's from the

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hours of 10 o'clock at night until 6 o'clock in

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the morning when I wake up. I'll just figure out

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some way to automate that. I've tried Omarchi before, and

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I've tried every Linux distro, and I've got every Linux

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distro. And... My life. Back to, I mean, I've got

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Ubuntu 12 servers. I've got Ubuntu 18. Oh, you have

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these servers just laying around, just ready to go? Running.

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Running. You got Mint? Do you have Mint running somewhere?

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No, I don't have Mint. I've had Mint, though. I've

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had Mint. I've had Pop! OS. I've had every flavor

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of Linux back to Red Hat 5.2 was my first

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Linux. Oh, yeah. Remember when we had to build the

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kernel? Oh, I used to build the kernel all the

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time. Yeah. Because, see, there's two uses for building the

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kernel. Both are for torture, but okay. Okay, well, three.

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There's three uses for building the kernel. One is to

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break in a new processor. So you heat cycle your

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processor to get that thing broken in. The next one

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is if you actually need to do real work and

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change something. a kernel driver or something like that, that's

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always fun. And the third and most important reason to

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rebuild the kernel is for when you're in your day

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job at the office and you have nothing to do

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and somebody walks by your office, you need that thing

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scrolling across the screen to make it look like you're

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doing work. I'm doing important work here. Yeah. Have you

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seen HackerTyper? Do you know this? Yes. That looks really

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good, doesn't it? Yeah. It's HackerTyper. Machi as well. Oh,

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I don't know. I just know it's a website. I

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think it's built in there somewhere. So what do you

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think? I mean, I know you've used Tiling Window Managers

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before. What do you think? Are you digging it? Yeah,

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so I'm trying โ€“ whenever I try a new distro,

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I try to do it the distro's way, the way

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that they want it. Oh, opinionated. You're opinionated. Yeah, I

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want to follow the paradigm that they said, you know

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what I mean? Yeah. So that you can really โ€“

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Get the full experience. Yeah, yeah, really test it out.

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Like with NixOS, um... I went in raw. Raw-dogging, raw-dogging

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Nix. Bareback into the NixOS ecosystem with just editing the

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config file and running NixOS rebuild. Hardcore, hardcore, yeah. And

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I've still got that server running. It's doing some stuff.

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But, yeah, so I'm trying to, I've used tiling window

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managers before, but I'm trying to do this in like,

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I'm trying to keep my hand off the mouse. It's

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hard. Oh, see, this is what I love about Omachi.

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Because I've been a keyboard guy all my life. I'm

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a Vim guy, which now is NeoVim. which Envim, which

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I like a lot. And no, I dig it. I

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mean, I'm a workspace master. Boom, workspace. Boom, move the

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windows. You know, super key shift arrow. Super Key J.

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See, that's what I'm trying to get used to is

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how do I flip. Because I feel like the right

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thing to do is to not try to cram a

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bunch of windows onto one screen, but keep flipping them

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between worksheets. Well, here's another cool one. So if you

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have a window highlighted, you do super key O, and

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then it pops it right into the middle of your

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screen. And you do super key O again, and it

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goes back into the tile. So you can just pop

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something. Instead of doing super key F, which makes it

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full screen, you can just make it kind of float

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in the middle. Okay, okay. Yeah, yeah, I know what

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you're talking about. Are you doing it right now? I

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did it by accident the other day. Okay, wash your

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hands then if you just did it now. I've got

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sanitizer. Hold on. Yeah, I know you can just install

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a tiling window manager, but it's got to be installed

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on something, so it might as well be this. Yeah.

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I've... I do like... I do like Omarchi for one

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reason, is... And I literally have done every Linux distro.

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I've done LFS, the Linux from scratch project. I've done

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all of it. Yeah. And. One thing that always annoyed

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me about almost every district. is that you would install

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it And then there was always a few sort of

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critical things that were missing. Yeah, that didn't work. Yeah,

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like unzip. Yeah, all these little critical things. Yes, I

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know. Of course, I know exactly what you mean. And

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then you're like. okay, I'm going to install it and

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then you're missing dependencies. And then, you know, it's like,

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oh, and eventually, but recompile your kernel. I'm like, I

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install a fresh Ubuntu and then I have to do

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sudo apt-get unzip, install unzip. I'm like, really? We can't

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even just โ€“ we can't put unzip in it? Does

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it actually come on Omachi? Let me see. um I'm

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sure. I don't know if it does or not. Yeah,

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it does. Now that I've said it, it probably doesn't.

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It does. Yeah, it does. It's right there. This already

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had Pi on it, which I'm a hardcore Pi user

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now. Well, it has a whole, you know, your agents

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are kind of built into it. So you can track

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all your different agents and their usage while they're running.

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Then you can use Herder. Oh, Herder. So are you

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using Herder? Are you using that? I'm not using it,

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but you could. I'm not using it because I don't.

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I've learned my lesson. I don't want my agents talking

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to me.

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each other. Nuh-uh. Nuh-uh. Before you know it, they're emailing

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Dave. This has happened, yes. So, no, no. What did

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you, so... Did you get the email? from Jason at

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Podcast Guru about his top secret project. I get, no,

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I don't get any of that stuff. He was supposed

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to send you an email about it's agent related and

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he's got a top secret project. No, he doesn't. No,

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he doesn't love me like you love me. He loved

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me no long time. He sent me an invite and

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I said, you need to send Adam one. He's like,

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yeah, I'm on it. I didn't get an invite. Oh,

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an invite. Yeah. It's probably your spam firewall. An invite

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for what? For the Top Secret Project. Jason. I don't

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know where that would go. I think you would like

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this. I think you would like his tool. It's really

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cool. I'm not interested in anybody's tool in the podcasting

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2.0 system. I just want their code. Code. Just give

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me your code. Just send your code. Don't show me

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your tool. No water. Just send me your code. Everything's

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down, I heard. What do you mean everything's down? Everybody's

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stats are down. All the podcasters. There's James and Sam.

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We're talking on today's episode that across the board, everybody's

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had a huge drop in downloads. Oh, the numbers. I

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think because I did listen to some of the show,

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only to hear if they talk about me, obviously. I

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mean, why else would I listen? And I think that

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was PodTrack. Was it PodTrack that reports everybody down? That's

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what they were saying. Yeah. So that doesn't mean everything's

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down. Everybody's down. This just means that PodTrack has changed

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something because, you know, the statistics in podcast land are

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so reliable. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, it would

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not surprise me. At all? Would it surprise you if

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those numbers were accurate? If they were accurate, it would

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surprise me, yes. Really? Yeah. No, I'm saying if any

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podcast statistics were accurate, I would be surprised. That's what

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I'm saying. I believe you on that. I'm with you

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on that front. I guess what I'm saying is it

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wouldn't surprise me if the numbers truly are down across

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the board this year. Really? Oh, I don't know about

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that. We're in the middle of a... There's no political,

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hardcore political cycle. What are you talking about? The midterms

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are, everyone's going nuts over the midterms. Nobody cares. Oh,

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no, I disagree. People care. People think the world is

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on fire. I have yet to see a single political

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ad. on any, excuse me, I've yet to hear a

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single political ad on any podcast that I listen to.

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And I listen to plenty of podcasts from big networks

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like iHeart and Acast and all those kinds of things.

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I have not. The only ads I ever hear are

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for better help and stuff like that. Well, I mean,

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okay, so there's no political ads, but there's... There's definitely

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news that people are talking about that people are interested

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in. But all the political all the political podcasts are

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driven by. ads no no no that's not true they're

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driven by political news and you know trump that's what

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they're driven by paid they don't want to get paid

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yeah but they get paid uh no i don't think

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that's one for one i mean no no i don't

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think so i think there's there's plenty of stuff we've

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got a war in iran we've got a war in

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ukraine we've got uh general scott besant walking around like

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he's gonna kill everybody with his finance weapon We've got...

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We've got Trumpapalooza in Dallas. We have the oil prices.

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The gas is too high. My wife said, but she

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was irritated with me. So that's okay. We had jet

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lag. So, you know, and then she went out, she

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got groceries and got gas. And she comes home and

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says, I paid $100 to fill up my car. Thanks,

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President Trump. And I knew she was trying to get

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a reaction out of me. Did it work? No, no.

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Wisely. Wisely. That's funny. That's just the way things are

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going to be for the rest of our lives. Every

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new president, there's going to be people putting the little

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sticker on the gas pump that says, I did this

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for that guy. Oh, yeah. That's just a new way

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of life. It's true. I don't know. I mean, I

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have no way to prove anything. But I really, I

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don't know, I get a sense that things are down.

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I don't know, just from, because I've been deep in

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the bowels of the index for weeks now. Well, yes,

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in fact, on my list here to discuss is the

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scary stuff you put in, the podcast identity table. Yes.

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And well, you said it was scary. And, you know,

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I feel a little bit out of it because I

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was in Rotterdam for almost two weeks and not really

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looking at anything at all. Which was good, except for

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my granddaughter. I was just getting spit up on. I

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was changing diapers. Yeah. Laughing, you know, she's laughing at

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me, I'm laughing back, you know. She's interested in my

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beard, I'm sporting a little beard now. It's new. Oh,

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oh. It's new, yeah, it's new. Okay. It's new, yeah.

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And but I, you know, so I just every every

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time I do a check of stuff, it's CNBC. Podcast

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index.social. Google News X. And so I'm always monitoring what

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you and Spurlock say. I know why you think that

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everybody's all jitty about politics stuff is because you see

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X. Like, no, I see Google News. I mean, I

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see everything. Yeah, well, I mean, that's the bit. But

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you have to understand. I'm talking about on the street,

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out here on these streets. On the streets, people. It's

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all about it, man. You just don't know it. Okay,

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I'll give you an example. There's a 10% chance AI

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is going to kill everybody! Yeah, the latest IPO. Yeah,

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well, yes and no. I mean, it's... I love Spurlock's

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saying, anthropic marketing is like an advent calendar. Which we

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open another window every single day until we get to

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the IPO. And what's behind it today? I thought that

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was just a brilliant. Yeah, that was just a sheer

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brilliance. I'm using it. I'm not going to credit him.

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I'm going to pretend it's my own. Great. Really good.

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But it's multiple things. Actually, I got a, hold on

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a second, where is the... Yeah, you get up, you're

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in your jammies, you open the little door on the

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advent calendar, and today Mythos is going to hack a

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Fortune 500 company. Yeah, I like this. So this guy

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who no one ever heard of. who quit Anthropic. And

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says. Oh, here it is. I read that thing. That

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thing's goofy. Kill all humans. Kill all humans. What is

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that from? I got a whole bunch of kill all

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humans. Okay, I will destroy humans. I just got a

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bunch of kill all humans. This is Futurama. Kill all

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humans. Oh, yeah, that's right. So I read that and

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right away I'm like, okay. This is one of three

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things. And I think this will be proven right. One,

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man, we're so awesome. The stuff that Anthropic is doing,

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it's so far ahead. You're going to want to invest

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in us. Totally true. Two. We want government regulation of

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all models so this open source stuff doesn't get away

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from us. Hugging face needs to go away, we can't

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have that! three and this was the one that was

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most interesting because this guy he was on cnn msnbc

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ms now uh you know mbc fox all with the

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same message and and they literally were saying they're they're

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begging for regulation well of course because they have no

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moat around this stuff We've talked about that. And the

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last one, and this is the political angle. Chuck Schumer

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and Bernie Sanders and all the Democrats are coming out.

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Boy, and Tallarico here in Texas. Well, the Republicans, they're

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risking your life. They don't want to do anything about

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it. They're supporting these people. They're taking PAC money from

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them. You've got to vote Democrat if you don't want

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to be part of the 10% that die. So it's

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all political and it's all around the midterms. And by

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the way, if you look at the... So the exact

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quote, I think, was there's a 10% chance that AI

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will kill all humans.

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That was pretty much the quote. And then immediately you

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got anthropic guys who still work there coming out saying,

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oh, yeah, that's possible. That's true. So this was a

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clear set up. Clear set up. Yeah, that makes sense.

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But I think if you flip it. I think there

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is a large possibility that AI will kill 10% of

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all humans. That I really believe, you know, 1% will

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be egged on to suicide themselves. That's, that's, I mean,

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that's going to be, there's a million people a year

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by Anthropic's own PR marketing. Who? have had a conversation

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about killing themselves with their chatbot. So chatbots, that's 1%

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right there. I think there is a high probability that

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many people will die because of a doctor accepting diagnosis

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from their chatbot. I think that's so you're probably now

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at 3%. there's going to be automated systems in traffic

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and vehicles, and that's just going to cause 3% death,

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no doubt about it. So what are we at now,

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7? I'm going to get to the 10% pretty quickly.

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Yeah, you just need another 3% from somewhere. I mean,

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there's a margin of error, too, so you may only

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need to get to 9, and you get 10 for

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free. You know, people trying to fix their home wiring,

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they're going to get electrocuted and die. Or their car.

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Yeah, like, oh, my chat might change. Yeah, exactly, fixing

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my brakes, doing my own stuff. I think that is

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absolutely a possibility. Now, that amount of people will die

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anyway from stupid stuff and stupid technology. But no, so

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that it's all political, all of its political. So. On

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the refactor, on the database refactor. Wow, hard left turn.

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Okay. No, no, no. It's not a hard left turn.

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I'm doing a connector. Oh, we've got yarn between these

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two dots on the board. Yes, I'm splicing. because What

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I was going to say is when it comes to

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agentic coding versus hand coding. Man, I think I'm waving

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the white flag. I think I just give up. What

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do you mean you give up? You're going to do

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it? You're going to use it? Well, what I'm saying

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is I have been using it. I haven't written, I

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don't think I've written any code. I don't think I've

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written a line of code by hand. I just heard

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Paul cry. Paul Bailey is crying somewhere. He's crying. Yeah.

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Well, welcome to the dark side, Dave. Welcome. We've been

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waiting for you. I've been here developing actual products for

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customers for two years. Welcome. This And what did it

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to me was this podcast index refactor. Now... I guess

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I don't even know really what to think about these

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things, but... This refactor has been so intense. And it

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touches every, literally every... function almost in the API code

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base. It touches everything from the database schema down to

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every API endpoint, all the base level internal API calls,

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all the data export. This would have probably been a

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year of work for me by hand. And I would

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have had tons of episodes of breaking things along the

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way. And Ajita. agita What is that? Ajra? I don't

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know what that means. Oh, hold on a second. Wait,

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wait. The box is here. I gotta go. Hold on.

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Stand by. What just happened? Okay. I don't know what

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just happened, but I'm standing by. The ba- This must

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be like a new... I wonder if this is sort

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of like some kind of new AI box or something.

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It can't be a DGX, though, because those things are

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stupid expensive now. When RSS.com donated the DGX to us

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a few weeks ago, I don't know how long it's

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been now, a couple months. It was like $3,500. That

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same box today is $6,000. It's outrageous how much the

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price inflation is. All right. I have the box. What

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is this? What is this box? I'm sorry. This is

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the Asus. DX10 128 gigabyte. A GB10? The DX Spark

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clone? Yes. That's what I'm running here at the RSS

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gave us. Yes. Well, this was given to me by

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Eric Timmer, who lives in Austin, I think. Did I

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tell you the story? No, I don't think so. So

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Eric listens to Noah Jendi, listens to podcasting 2.0. He

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says, hey, man, I got this box gathering dust over

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here. And I don't really use it, so why don't

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I just send it to you? So what is it?

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He says it's the Asus GB10, you know, with the

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Grace chip and the... What? Oh, that's the real deal.

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Yeah. And I had to sign for it because he

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insured it. This is this guy, I'm blown away by

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his... It just says kindness. So what I was saying

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while you were gone is that โ€“ Okay, here it

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is on... It's the GX10, not GB10. It's the GX10.

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Yeah, GX10. It's Grace Blackwell 10. The GX10... Desktop AI

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supercomputer! Calm down, people. That is a $6,000 computer. Well,

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he bought it for... $3,500 probably, the original price. $3,000,

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yeah. Yeah, that's what I saw today is 6,200. Yeah,

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these things are out on Amazon right now. I'm looking

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at a 6,199. Yeah, yeah. I know. I know. This

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is like Christmas in September. I can send you the...

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I can send you my Lama CPP settings for this.

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Thank you. I feel like they're dialed in now. Thank

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you. I appreciate that. But my robot has already prepared

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for everything. We're going to build a lot of things

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from source because, you know, there's not always an ARM

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version available and we have to go to the PyTorch

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CUDA. How's your cooter doing? I don't know. It just

400
00:27:12,474 --> 00:27:14,216
sits there and kudos all day. I don't know what

401
00:27:14,296 --> 00:27:19,519
exactly it's doing. It's Kuda. Yeah, no, but I already

402
00:27:19,579 --> 00:27:23,282
have, I've got my whole architecture mapped out. I know

403
00:27:23,342 --> 00:27:25,103
exactly what I'm going to do. But thank you. I'd

404
00:27:25,103 --> 00:27:29,106
appreciate that. Just send that to me. That's good. So,

405
00:27:29,146 --> 00:27:38,092
I mean, part... Part of this is... This refactor has

406
00:27:38,172 --> 00:27:43,555
been so โ€“ tense. Originally, I'll just walk you through

407
00:27:43,575 --> 00:27:46,857
the process here. In the very beginning, I've known that

408
00:27:46,938 --> 00:27:48,639
we needed to do this for a very long time.

409
00:27:50,060 --> 00:27:56,044
and Originally, I was just... I mean, you, um... Podcast

410
00:27:56,064 --> 00:28:00,507
Index is not a team. of coders. It's just, it's,

411
00:28:00,647 --> 00:28:02,528
you know, like as far as I'm talking about the

412
00:28:02,588 --> 00:28:06,311
API. Right. When it comes to the API. It's Dave.

413
00:28:06,951 --> 00:28:11,394
It's just me. It's Dave. can't and it's hard to

414
00:28:11,494 --> 00:28:14,616
make It's hard to make it be any other way

415
00:28:14,776 --> 00:28:17,858
because when you actually work in a decent โ€“ let's

416
00:28:17,918 --> 00:28:20,720
say if I fully open sourced the entire thing and

417
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,882
was accepting pull requests and that kind of thing. for

418
00:28:23,942 --> 00:28:28,706
the API. it would take even longer to get any

419
00:28:28,786 --> 00:28:35,290
changes made. Sure. Because that's a slow process. So in

420
00:28:35,370 --> 00:28:41,694
the past I've... Open sourced. Parts of the API, like

421
00:28:41,734 --> 00:28:44,556
the low-level functions and that kind of thing, just because

422
00:28:44,596 --> 00:28:47,979
I just want it to be open, but I can't

423
00:28:48,039 --> 00:28:51,941
really. I don't think it's fast enough to work in

424
00:28:52,101 --> 00:28:56,364
a sort of a group mentality with this. So I've

425
00:28:56,404 --> 00:29:01,408
always just done it myself. Because of that, I don't

426
00:29:01,448 --> 00:29:04,229
have anybody to talk things out with. I don't have

427
00:29:04,289 --> 00:29:08,072
eyeballs on this. Right. Now you have your agent friend.

428
00:29:09,533 --> 00:29:13,896
He's not my friend. This SOB is not my friend.

429
00:29:14,016 --> 00:29:19,500
I can promise you that. So. When I first started

430
00:29:19,540 --> 00:29:22,001
it, what I was saying was โ€“ I was just

431
00:29:22,041 --> 00:29:25,484
having โ€“ I was just doing brainstorming sessions to try

432
00:29:25,524 --> 00:29:30,767
to... map out the process because it literally is just

433
00:29:31,027 --> 00:29:34,350
every it touches everything so i came i was just

434
00:29:34,410 --> 00:29:37,392
coming up with basically planning documents and that kind of

435
00:29:37,432 --> 00:29:45,017
thing And then... the more I got into it. It

436
00:29:46,018 --> 00:29:49,280
had the plan that it came up with for doing

437
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:54,383
the database schema refactor of adding the podcast table and

438
00:29:54,423 --> 00:29:57,185
that kind of thing. I just said, okay, we'll just

439
00:29:58,206 --> 00:29:59,967
go ahead and... Go ahead.

440
00:30:00,460 --> 00:30:03,182
and write that sequel for me. so that I can

441
00:30:03,242 --> 00:30:08,406
get that. out of the way. And then it's basically

442
00:30:08,546 --> 00:30:16,111
like, do you know... Charybdis from the Odyssey. The massive

443
00:30:16,151 --> 00:30:19,833
whirlpool, you know, this sucks you in. This is what

444
00:30:19,893 --> 00:30:24,816
happens. you you get into the sphere you know you

445
00:30:24,877 --> 00:30:29,640
get into the proximity of charybdis And it just pulls

446
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:35,764
you into the whirlpool. And before it's over, you know...

447
00:30:37,185 --> 00:30:38,986
Two months have gone by and you haven't written any

448
00:30:39,046 --> 00:30:44,630
code. And that's. That's kind of where I've ended up.

449
00:30:45,030 --> 00:30:49,213
Now, I still look at the code. Because this is

450
00:30:49,233 --> 00:30:54,196
a code base that previously, that already existed. And in

451
00:30:54,316 --> 00:30:59,379
my head, I have a full mapping of... of exactly

452
00:30:59,439 --> 00:31:03,322
the way this entire framework functions. Right, but you no

453
00:31:03,422 --> 00:31:07,905
longer know how it works. That's a โ€“ see, okay,

454
00:31:07,945 --> 00:31:11,147
this is part of it. We're talking about two things

455
00:31:11,207 --> 00:31:14,530
here. We're talking about โ€“ The podcast index refactor itself.

456
00:31:15,590 --> 00:31:22,695
and the agentic coding side of this. and You know,

457
00:31:22,835 --> 00:31:26,437
do we, do you, there's this thing that happens where.

458
00:31:28,179 --> 00:31:31,441
There's multiple levels, I think, of keeping, if you talk

459
00:31:31,521 --> 00:31:35,563
about, quote, keeping the architecture in your head, unquote. I

460
00:31:35,624 --> 00:31:39,606
think there's multiple levels of that. Oh, that's interesting because

461
00:31:39,726 --> 00:31:43,509
I have the architecture of what I vibe coded completely

462
00:31:43,589 --> 00:31:46,851
in my head. I know exactly how all the pieces

463
00:31:46,911 --> 00:31:52,455
fit together. I really do. How those pieces actually work,

464
00:31:52,875 --> 00:31:57,918
not so much. Because that's where I was going. Exactly.

465
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:04,423
Most, I think most coders eventually start. You know, they're

466
00:32:04,443 --> 00:32:10,367
working on a very large code base. You start abstracting

467
00:32:10,467 --> 00:32:13,048
everything until something breaks. Then you need to go into

468
00:32:13,129 --> 00:32:15,410
that one particular module. You've got to sit there. You've

469
00:32:15,470 --> 00:32:17,651
got to light up another smoke. You've got to have

470
00:32:17,691 --> 00:32:19,413
another cup of coffee. You're like, oh, how did this

471
00:32:19,413 --> 00:32:23,996
thing work again? Yeah, you can easily keep the big

472
00:32:24,096 --> 00:32:27,978
picture in your head, but the smaller pictures within the

473
00:32:27,998 --> 00:32:31,741
big picture tend to get kind of fuzzy. Yeah. Because

474
00:32:31,781 --> 00:32:35,744
there's not just the big picture and then the micro

475
00:32:35,864 --> 00:32:39,686
details. There's multiple layers all up and down that spectrum.

476
00:32:40,547 --> 00:32:43,689
And it's sort of like the lost in the middle

477
00:32:43,789 --> 00:32:51,194
problem. With context, the very first prompt you ask tends

478
00:32:51,294 --> 00:32:55,497
to be retained, and then the most recent question you

479
00:32:55,657 --> 00:32:57,818
ask tends to be retained. But a bunch of stuff

480
00:32:57,838 --> 00:33:00,740
in that middle tends to get lost. I think that

481
00:33:00,780 --> 00:33:06,364
applies with human effort. in this circumstance as well. We

482
00:33:06,704 --> 00:33:08,645
can keep the big picture in our head and we

483
00:33:08,685 --> 00:33:10,627
can keep sort of the last thing we did in

484
00:33:10,727 --> 00:33:13,068
our head. But there's a lot of things along the

485
00:33:13,128 --> 00:33:15,290
way that just kind of like fade in and out

486
00:33:15,370 --> 00:33:21,214
of clarity. And that makes it. we can recover that

487
00:33:21,274 --> 00:33:26,457
clarity. But it requires a lot of time and attention.

488
00:33:26,537 --> 00:33:31,260
Ooh, ooh. Ooh, ooh. What did we get? 777. Okay.

489
00:33:31,861 --> 00:33:42,408
Thanks, Salty Crayon. Thank you, Salticrayon. So It's like... You

490
00:33:42,428 --> 00:33:47,511
know, Wendell Berry died. Was it last week? I think

491
00:33:47,551 --> 00:33:49,453
it was last week. I know this name from somewhere,

492
00:33:49,513 --> 00:33:54,756
but I can't. Can't pinpoint it. He wrote a fantastic,

493
00:33:55,156 --> 00:33:59,419
he wrote many great things, but... The book of his

494
00:33:59,459 --> 00:34:01,861
that I've been reading the most over the last year

495
00:34:01,921 --> 00:34:06,424
or so is... It's a collection of essays called Life

496
00:34:06,484 --> 00:34:11,767
is a Miracle. It's a wonderful book. He's just a

497
00:34:11,867 --> 00:34:18,512
true American philosopher. He's fantastic. I encourage anybody to get

498
00:34:18,532 --> 00:34:22,675
that book and read it. He talks a lot about...

499
00:34:23,475 --> 00:34:29,779
about about art and, um, And I remember a long

500
00:34:29,839 --> 00:34:32,221
time ago, you used to talk about code as art.

501
00:34:34,883 --> 00:34:40,186
Yeah, which I believe it is. Well, he said... He

502
00:34:40,246 --> 00:34:42,508
said, all art, let's see, this is a quote from

503
00:34:42,648 --> 00:34:45,510
one of his essays. He says, all art that rises

504
00:34:45,630 --> 00:34:50,453
above competence insists upon the irreducibility of its subjects, its

505
00:34:50,513 --> 00:34:54,196
materials, and its finished works. It makes things that are

506
00:34:54,236 --> 00:34:58,559
inherently valuable in themselves and are not interchangeable with other

507
00:34:58,639 --> 00:35:03,061
things. To a merely competent carpenter, one sound board may

508
00:35:03,122 --> 00:35:05,323
be pretty much the same as another, but to a

509
00:35:05,403 --> 00:35:09,346
fine carpenter or a cabinetmaker, every board is unique. The

510
00:35:09,386 --> 00:35:12,708
better artist a woodworker becomes, the more aware he or

511
00:35:12,848 --> 00:35:16,250
she becomes of the individuality of the boards and of

512
00:35:16,270 --> 00:35:19,833
the differences between them. The increase of art accounts for

513
00:35:19,873 --> 00:35:27,578
the increase of perception. I think code never was that

514
00:35:27,698 --> 00:35:31,640
thing. Or it was only that thing in a super

515
00:35:31,781 --> 00:35:36,404
rare circumstance. You were correct. I think you were right

516
00:35:36,484 --> 00:35:42,808
about code as art. 100% you were right. I think

517
00:35:42,888 --> 00:35:45,470
what the real way to say it would be code

518
00:35:45,610 --> 00:35:49,993
can be art in the hands of... A true artist.

519
00:35:50,953 --> 00:35:56,177
true code artist. And there's so few people like that.

520
00:35:56,497 --> 00:36:00,039
I'm not that person. I never have been. I know,

521
00:36:00,159 --> 00:36:04,903
I've seen the freedom controller. Okay, that's fair. See, that's

522
00:36:04,983 --> 00:36:10,266
fair. Kind of a low blow. That's fair because everything

523
00:36:10,386 --> 00:36:14,389
I do โ€“ ends up with just round after round

524
00:36:14,449 --> 00:36:17,951
after round of bugs of not just bug fixes but

525
00:36:18,131 --> 00:36:25,076
absurdly ludicrous bug fixes bug fixes that a true code

526
00:36:25,256 --> 00:36:29,019
artist would never make but i'm just not that guy

527
00:36:30,039 --> 00:36:32,841
Most people are not that if we if we just

528
00:36:32,881 --> 00:36:37,524
do a comparison So when you hear an AI generated

529
00:36:37,604 --> 00:36:42,468
song. which you hear. You can hear it. You can

530
00:36:42,708 --> 00:36:44,349
still hear it. A lot of people don't. We've got

531
00:36:44,349 --> 00:36:46,010
a lot of women on the text groups here in

532
00:36:46,070 --> 00:36:48,332
Fredericksburg. Oh, look at this song. This woman is so

533
00:36:48,452 --> 00:36:51,093
phenomenal. And then Tina will say, yeah, it's great. It's

534
00:36:51,153 --> 00:36:53,435
AI. Oh, I hate it. It sucks. It's no good.

535
00:36:54,496 --> 00:36:58,718
um I believe that code is probably at the same

536
00:36:58,798 --> 00:37:04,562
level as AI music. It sounds good. It's perfectly played.

537
00:37:05,063 --> 00:37:08,105
It has the right construct. If you really look at

538
00:37:08,165 --> 00:37:12,087
it, if you know that it's AI, it's vibe-coded, then

539
00:37:12,127 --> 00:37:15,730
it's no good. But it is. It is. And it

540
00:37:15,830 --> 00:37:20,133
is art unto itself. It's stolen. It's stuck together. But

541
00:37:20,193 --> 00:37:27,918
it works. And it's a toe tapper. It is. I

542
00:37:28,038 --> 00:37:34,222
know true- we- we know true. Code Artists Paul. Yes.

543
00:37:34,442 --> 00:37:41,187
John Spurlock. Yes. Alice Gates. Yes. We, Eric P.P., we

544
00:37:41,367 --> 00:37:46,730
know. People like this. That is not... who I am

545
00:37:46,810 --> 00:37:52,274
and that is not who most developers are. Most developers

546
00:37:52,454 --> 00:37:59,399
are somewhere in the middle between between competent and good.

547
00:38:00,940 --> 00:38:06,724
somewhere in that range. And for those people, just like

548
00:38:06,944 --> 00:38:12,988
somebody who's... framing a house. The fine details of which

549
00:38:13,288 --> 00:38:16,630
board to choose. is just not a thing that you

550
00:38:16,690 --> 00:38:19,932
can think about. You're not going to know enough to

551
00:38:20,032 --> 00:38:23,975
really know. Like, I recently had an experience where a

552
00:38:24,495 --> 00:38:30,219
guy that I client that is the father of. one

553
00:38:30,259 --> 00:38:32,501
of the girls on the climbing team with my daughter

554
00:38:32,761 --> 00:38:36,303
at the rock climbing gym. He is now, this guy

555
00:38:36,363 --> 00:38:40,226
is a master woodworker. He, people hire him to do.

556
00:38:41,126 --> 00:38:47,090
like $25 million beachfront mansion, you know, wine rooms and

557
00:38:47,110 --> 00:38:50,032
stuff like that. I mean, this guy is top of

558
00:38:50,072 --> 00:38:54,595
the heap. a very selective client base, you know, high

559
00:38:54,655 --> 00:38:59,939
dollar. and His stuff is unbelievable, but he's also an

560
00:39:00,139 --> 00:39:03,261
extremely nice guy. And so I was doing a project

561
00:39:03,281 --> 00:39:09,205
to replicate some molding in our old house here. And

562
00:39:09,245 --> 00:39:10,566
he was like, yeah, come over to the shop. I'll

563
00:39:10,586 --> 00:39:12,868
help you. And so I go over to the shop.

564
00:39:13,888 --> 00:39:16,970
I've done woodworking plenty of times in the past. I

565
00:39:17,090 --> 00:39:19,852
get to his shop. And I've got, you know, I've

566
00:39:19,872 --> 00:39:23,375
got... When you realize I've never really done woodworking. Exactly.

567
00:39:23,535 --> 00:39:29,859
Yes, exactly. This guy, he... He's like, okay, well, the

568
00:39:29,899 --> 00:39:31,600
first thing you need to do is we need to

569
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:35,543
map the way this grain is going so that when

570
00:39:35,583 --> 00:39:39,966
we send it through the planer. It's got a... You're

571
00:39:39,966 --> 00:39:44,649
buzzing. Yeah, no, this is weird. Move the chocolate. I

572
00:39:44,649 --> 00:39:47,611
don't know how to... There it goes again. Okay, sorry.

573
00:39:48,651 --> 00:39:51,373
So that when it's going through the planer with the

574
00:39:51,413 --> 00:39:53,715
grain in the right direction, and then we end up

575
00:39:53,815 --> 00:39:58,118
with, we've got like hand planes out running down the,

576
00:39:58,858 --> 00:39:59,879
it came out so.

577
00:39:58,944 --> 00:40:03,026
came out so gorgeous. I would have never even known

578
00:40:03,106 --> 00:40:06,569
to ask the questions that he asked. So you got

579
00:40:06,589 --> 00:40:08,870
to bring it back to the work you're doing on

580
00:40:08,970 --> 00:40:12,453
the index. Okay, you feel me fading is what you're

581
00:40:12,453 --> 00:40:16,356
saying? Yeah, well, you're doing the weave, man. Okay. Sometimes

582
00:40:16,376 --> 00:40:18,137
I weave so hard that I don't ever come back.

583
00:40:18,157 --> 00:40:22,080
This is a fair criticism. Weave it back. I'm just

584
00:40:22,900 --> 00:40:34,568
the ref here. Offsides Podsage. The... So. In this process,

585
00:40:34,588 --> 00:40:38,671
I start going and I'm getting more and more dependent.

586
00:40:40,252 --> 00:40:44,996
on this plan that The AI thing wrote. Oh, you

587
00:40:45,102 --> 00:40:52,507
still do plan mode. YOLO, baby. YOLO. It wasn't plan

588
00:40:52,587 --> 00:40:57,650
mode technically. It was the brainstorming thing. And the plan

589
00:40:57,730 --> 00:41:03,534
that it developed was after a couple of days of

590
00:41:03,614 --> 00:41:08,778
reading it, it was clearly the correct plan. And the

591
00:41:08,838 --> 00:41:12,940
problem is it was so complex that it would have

592
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,682
still taken me like a year to do it. And

593
00:41:15,742 --> 00:41:17,784
so I start letting it do piece after piece after

594
00:41:17,864 --> 00:41:21,906
piece. And so then, and I'm reviewing, because this is

595
00:41:21,946 --> 00:41:24,528
an established code base, this is a fairly easy process.

596
00:41:24,588 --> 00:41:27,790
I'm reviewing the code as it goes in and it's

597
00:41:27,830 --> 00:41:30,112
happening, it's been happening over the last few weeks in

598
00:41:30,272 --> 00:41:35,295
phases. And the first phase was just updating the database

599
00:41:35,335 --> 00:41:37,477
schema. And I had to have just a couple of

600
00:41:37,517 --> 00:41:40,939
momentary down times on the index for that to happen,

601
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:47,944
like maybe, you know, five minutes. and then the schema

602
00:41:48,304 --> 00:41:53,487
created the podcast table an audit table and a merge

603
00:41:53,607 --> 00:42:00,112
candidates table so the way that it works is the

604
00:42:00,172 --> 00:42:03,754
podcast table is going to have the podcast table does

605
00:42:03,834 --> 00:42:08,657
have a reference in it to the feed id of

606
00:42:08,698 --> 00:42:11,359
the feeds table so that'll be the guid or the

607
00:42:11,479 --> 00:42:19,565
ident the This is where it gets confusing. The podcast

608
00:42:19,745 --> 00:42:25,068
table was seeded from the feeds table. And this is

609
00:42:25,068 --> 00:42:29,531
relevant. I'm laying all this out because people who consume

610
00:42:29,671 --> 00:42:34,735
our output, whether it's the... the weekly feed dump, or

611
00:42:35,195 --> 00:42:42,080
whether it's the full database export in JSON format, you'll

612
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,341
need to be aware of this because new things are

613
00:42:44,341 --> 00:42:50,085
going to show up in those data sets. Well, that's

614
00:42:50,105 --> 00:42:52,987
going to be... is the conflict queue, but maybe we're

615
00:42:52,987 --> 00:42:55,228
not there yet. Yeah, we're going to get there in

616
00:42:55,228 --> 00:43:02,593
a second. Okay. So the podcast table was seeded. from

617
00:43:03,034 --> 00:43:07,457
the feeds table so that the initial batch of IDs

618
00:43:07,537 --> 00:43:11,479
would match. So they track one for one. So no

619
00:43:11,599 --> 00:43:16,383
agenda is 41504 in the news feeds table. It's also

620
00:43:16,503 --> 00:43:22,947
41504 ID in the podcast table. Because we're awesome. Yes,

621
00:43:23,407 --> 00:43:28,831
because there's one feed. Yeah, that made sense. So initially

622
00:43:29,071 --> 00:43:38,817
everything got seeded that way. Yeah. But that's... stay no

623
00:43:40,038 --> 00:43:42,660
the the way it's going to be moving forward is

624
00:43:42,700 --> 00:43:48,824
in the whole I have three feeds that are truly

625
00:43:48,924 --> 00:43:54,868
just the same. merge thing that will be a merge

626
00:43:54,988 --> 00:44:04,575
process that happens. putt and then let's Bye. may actually

627
00:44:04,715 --> 00:44:11,739
reference newsfeed table ID 276. Right. Okay, but how โ€“

628
00:44:11,979 --> 00:44:18,264
I'll keep going. I'll save my questions for later. So

629
00:44:18,424 --> 00:44:22,226
that process of creating the phase one of creating the

630
00:44:22,246 --> 00:44:25,048
database schema that will hold this information and tie everything

631
00:44:25,088 --> 00:44:29,971
together, then you had the next phase two, which is

632
00:44:30,031 --> 00:44:36,396
the ingestion pipeline. So every โ€“ Every function in the

633
00:44:36,536 --> 00:44:41,499
API that consumes a podcast feed, so brings one in

634
00:44:41,839 --> 00:44:46,142
and adds it to the feeds table, now creates the

635
00:44:46,262 --> 00:44:49,865
feed entry in the feeds table and a podcast entry

636
00:44:49,905 --> 00:44:53,787
in the podcast table and also does a batch of

637
00:44:53,907 --> 00:44:58,791
checking to see if it's a duplicate in any way.

638
00:44:58,831 --> 00:45:02,393
And if it is, it puts it into the merge

639
00:45:02,553 --> 00:45:08,817
queue. Mmm, there it is. It sees it as a

640
00:45:10,458 --> 00:45:16,983
merge candidate. It's possible. the same feed. based on a

641
00:45:17,043 --> 00:45:22,146
set of heuristics, whether the GUIDs match, whether the feed

642
00:45:22,246 --> 00:45:25,769
URL, whether the feed content matches based on a set

643
00:45:25,829 --> 00:45:29,791
of hash criteria. What the iTunes ID is, I'm sure,

644
00:45:29,851 --> 00:45:36,035
is part of that? Yes, just the straight-up title of

645
00:45:36,376 --> 00:45:38,657
the pipe. So these are all, it's trying to decide,

646
00:45:38,997 --> 00:45:42,700
could this possibly be a match for something? And then

647
00:45:42,820 --> 00:45:48,243
it... finds a possible match, it creates a merge. entry

648
00:45:50,905 --> 00:45:53,667
is a separate and so that was sort of phase

649
00:45:53,787 --> 00:45:57,209
two is now we've got the we've got the database

650
00:45:57,249 --> 00:46:06,956
function we got a the date you And all... All

651
00:46:06,996 --> 00:46:19,504
the ingestion pipeline. entry where appropriate. The next phase was

652
00:46:23,287 --> 00:46:30,011
pass and also changing the exports the public data set

653
00:46:31,953 --> 00:46:36,155
Those are going to now contain the podcast table ID

654
00:46:36,716 --> 00:46:40,979
as well. So you're going to have โ€“ and remember,

655
00:46:40,999 --> 00:46:45,762
the goal of all this is to have no existing

656
00:46:45,862 --> 00:46:51,305
podcast interrupted or changed in any way. Right. So that

657
00:46:52,226 --> 00:46:56,569
podcasting 2.0, which is 920666, is going to continue to

658
00:46:56,609 --> 00:47:02,613
be 920666 even after all this is done. And so

659
00:47:02,673 --> 00:47:08,297
you're going to see the podcast table ID along with

660
00:47:08,397 --> 00:47:12,359
the feed ID in there. And in the future, there's

661
00:47:12,379 --> 00:47:19,204
also going to be extra columns. audit history and one

662
00:47:19,224 --> 00:47:23,107
of the goals is to make it where we can

663
00:47:23,227 --> 00:47:27,950
track a podcast. so that we can look back for

664
00:47:28,070 --> 00:47:34,854
any podcast. Let's say that it's, you know, the Everything

665
00:47:34,894 --> 00:47:39,618
Everywhere podcast, the history podcast. So we could look back

666
00:47:40,878 --> 00:47:44,641
into that podcast's history and say, okay, it used to

667
00:47:44,661 --> 00:47:46,942
be hosted on Lipson, then it moved to Buzzsprout, then

668
00:47:47,022 --> 00:47:50,825
it moved to Cast. then it moved to we can

669
00:47:50,885 --> 00:48:02,473
just see the whole lineage of this podcast. where it's

670
00:48:02,493 --> 00:48:06,135
supposed to be now. You know, what its canonical feeling

671
00:48:06,135 --> 00:48:10,198
is. Okay, now pop me to the top. So now

672
00:48:10,298 --> 00:48:16,082
my podcast has this, it has a podcast ID. What

673
00:48:16,082 --> 00:48:25,788
do you call it exactly? ID. And for whatever reason,

674
00:48:25,868 --> 00:48:33,974
there's three different feeds. is being updated because someone hijacked

675
00:48:33,994 --> 00:48:37,656
that feed, but that's not the one that is my

676
00:48:37,876 --> 00:48:40,798
actual feed and I want my podcast ID to point

677
00:48:40,898 --> 00:48:46,422
to the correct feed, how do I interact with the

678
00:48:46,502 --> 00:48:50,425
index to get that done? We'll interact with it in

679
00:48:50,485 --> 00:48:52,666
the same way that you always have through the dashboard.

680
00:48:52,886 --> 00:48:55,128
Oh, okay. So nothing gets done. I got it. Okay.

681
00:48:57,689 --> 00:49:03,033
But that's for manual review. So the good thing about

682
00:49:03,293 --> 00:49:10,578
this new process is that the podcast merge candidate queue

683
00:49:11,839 --> 00:49:14,981
table. Oh, wait. This is actually going to be good.

684
00:49:15,481 --> 00:49:18,743
Because then when people say they send an email and

685
00:49:18,783 --> 00:49:21,065
says, this is wrong, this is the wrong feed, that

686
00:49:20,944 --> 00:49:24,246
that should be this feed, I will go into the

687
00:49:21,105 --> 00:49:21,846
should be this feed.

688
00:49:24,306 --> 00:49:27,089
dashboard. It will show me all those feeds, and I

689
00:49:27,189 --> 00:49:29,991
select the one that is the correct one. Yes. That

690
00:49:30,011 --> 00:49:34,114
whole rigmarole of merging and everything in the dashboard. Yes.

691
00:49:34,274 --> 00:49:42,380
Okay. Yes. Good. If all of this goes... plan. Which

692
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:46,103
is a big if. Yeah. I love it. By the

693
00:49:46,183 --> 00:49:51,787
time somebody emails us and says, hey, I've got blah,

694
00:49:51,807 --> 00:49:56,151
blah, blah. Can you fix this? The merge candidate queue

695
00:49:56,191 --> 00:50:03,096
should already... have identified the problem. and is giving you

696
00:50:02,406 --> 00:50:08,209
is giving you the choices. how to fix it. That's

697
00:50:08,330 --> 00:50:12,132
worst case scenario. That's when a human has to get

698
00:50:12,192 --> 00:50:19,397
involved. If I think many of these cases, 75 percent

699
00:50:19,457 --> 00:50:26,382
of them. just be automatically conflict resolved. Ooh. And the

700
00:50:26,462 --> 00:50:30,324
rest will be done by Clippy. No, Potty Bot. Potty

701
00:50:30,364 --> 00:50:33,486
Bot, I'm sorry. I'm going to write Potty Bot. Potty

702
00:50:33,526 --> 00:50:36,769
Bot's going to be running on this big honking box,

703
00:50:36,949 --> 00:50:40,651
Potty Bot. Well, that's phase five of the... That's phase

704
00:50:40,731 --> 00:50:43,193
five of this plan, this potty bod. Well, okay, so

705
00:50:43,853 --> 00:50:48,957
can I just interject something? Cheers. Because we still have

706
00:50:49,457 --> 00:50:53,780
a big problem, and this comes down to heuristics and

707
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:58,923
your robot there. A lot of feeds. are being removed

708
00:50:59,004 --> 00:51:03,246
because I believe they are deemed to be AI generated

709
00:51:03,286 --> 00:51:07,189
or something. And they get removed from the index. Is

710
00:51:07,229 --> 00:51:09,531
there a process running that is checking this stuff and

711
00:51:09,611 --> 00:51:16,215
is removing stuff because it thinks it's a. Uh... It's

712
00:51:16,335 --> 00:51:24,160
generated by AI. I have not been run during this

713
00:51:24,240 --> 00:51:28,643
process for so for last. Probably two weeks I have

714
00:51:28,744 --> 00:51:33,567
not run the AI classifier at all. The reason why

715
00:51:33,607 --> 00:51:36,309
I ask, I'm just inserting this for entertainment value, Dave.

716
00:51:38,470 --> 00:51:40,411
I got a, there was a request that came in

717
00:51:40,531 --> 00:51:44,254
and someone said, hey, why is this BPTS podcast being

718
00:51:44,314 --> 00:51:51,519
taken down? gives me an RSS feed like okay it's

719
00:51:51,799 --> 00:51:55,461
it is it's marked dead it's not dead it's marked

720
00:51:55,522 --> 00:51:58,604
dead and I go listen to it I'm like this

721
00:51:58,664 --> 00:52:02,006
is what it sounds like You can't always get what

722
00:52:02,046 --> 00:52:05,768
you want. But if you try something... It's just my

723
00:52:05,908 --> 00:52:09,191
fault. Get what you need. And that's what we're going

724
00:52:09,191 --> 00:52:12,013
to talk about today. This is a real person speaking.

725
00:52:12,693 --> 00:52:16,075
With a voice. So a vocoder or something or whatever

726
00:52:16,075 --> 00:52:21,019
it is. I'll fast forward a little bit here. At

727
00:52:21,059 --> 00:52:22,380
the end of the day, really, I mean, what are

728
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:26,282
we? Who are we? Now, the thing that amazed me

729
00:52:26,522 --> 00:52:29,124
is that there's a fan out there. who was like,

730
00:52:29,144 --> 00:52:32,706
hey, this podcast, I listened to this podcast and it's

731
00:52:32,767 --> 00:52:36,569
not on the index. I'm like, wow, okay. I just

732
00:52:36,629 --> 00:52:39,411
wanted to say that there's stuff out there that I

733
00:52:39,491 --> 00:52:45,075
would deem completely unacceptable. As a podcast. But someone's listening

734
00:52:45,115 --> 00:52:50,458
to this. and likes it. Was this a fan that

735
00:52:50,558 --> 00:52:53,360
emailed or was this a podcast? No, a listener. I

736
00:52:53,380 --> 00:52:56,583
think it's a listener. What do we have to become?

737
00:52:56,583 --> 00:53:00,725
Anything? Does it matter? The host is Max Static. Yeah,

738
00:53:00,765 --> 00:53:08,070
no kidding. Peace. We're getting off into the abyss. So,

739
00:53:08,370 --> 00:53:10,692
okay, I was just wondering how that got, you know,

740
00:53:11,292 --> 00:53:15,075
how that got Mark dead. That's just... I didn't really

741
00:53:15,095 --> 00:53:18,857
understand. Well, let me see if I can tell. Oh,

742
00:53:18,938 --> 00:53:21,339
wait. I think I might know what the issue is

743
00:53:21,419 --> 00:53:25,622
here. No? Okay. Well, hold on here. I'm going to

744
00:53:25,642 --> 00:53:29,825
give you the RSS feed in the boardroom. In Signal?

745
00:53:29,845 --> 00:53:33,007
In the boardroom. Let the boardroom enjoy it. So I

746
00:53:33,147 --> 00:53:37,210
see it as Friday, September 11th. It has a proper

747
00:53:37,310 --> 00:53:40,352
last build date. But I look at the index. I

748
00:53:40,412 --> 00:53:46,416
restored it. The most recent episode is December 31st, 1969.

749
00:53:46,556 --> 00:53:50,839
I don't know why. Is that a... Okay. Is that

750
00:53:50,959 --> 00:53:56,823
somehow a... It declares the namespace, this feed. I'm just

751
00:53:57,163 --> 00:54:03,027
not sure why it's... What's the host? hosting company. His

752
00:54:03,167 --> 00:54:15,295
own hosting company. bbts.d4rk.army slash podcast.rss Weird. Okay. Generator Faircamp

753
00:54:15,556 --> 00:54:26,243
1.7.0 Unknown Revision Anyway, just dark army. Yeah. I just,

754
00:54:27,424 --> 00:54:29,725
so you gave me the answer. I don't know when

755
00:54:29,785 --> 00:54:32,967
this was. Well, you said you haven't run anything, so

756
00:54:33,828 --> 00:54:35,349
I'm going to take that to be. Did you mark

757
00:54:35,429 --> 00:54:37,510
it legit or was it? Yeah, I marked it legit

758
00:54:37,570 --> 00:54:42,394
and it restored. So we're... When you first got in

759
00:54:42,434 --> 00:54:44,535
there, was it marked as spam? It was marked dead.

760
00:54:44,755 --> 00:54:47,517
It's hard to see if it's marked spam because it

761
00:54:47,577 --> 00:54:49,919
just has the three buttons there. I don't know where

762
00:54:49,939 --> 00:54:52,901
you... I don't know. You can mark it legit or

763
00:54:52,961 --> 00:54:56,163
call it spam. Where it says, do you see it

764
00:54:56,223 --> 00:55:00,486
in the dashboard right now? No. Well, it says it's

765
00:55:00,486 --> 00:55:02,987
got a legit badge next to it. It would have

766
00:55:03,027 --> 00:55:05,109
said it would have had a spam badge next to

767
00:55:05,209 --> 00:55:07,230
it if it had been marked, if it had been

768
00:55:07,350 --> 00:55:10,532
marked as. if it had been killed because of a

769
00:55:10,613 --> 00:55:14,555
spam calls. If it didn't have that, it was just

770
00:55:14,575 --> 00:55:17,997
automatically killed because something was wrong with the feed, maybe.

771
00:55:18,818 --> 00:55:23,321
Okay, well, I didn't see the little flag anywhere. I

772
00:55:23,621 --> 00:55:25,863
see it now. I marked it legit, so that's why

773
00:55:25,923 --> 00:55:31,727
it says legit now, but it's a dead yes. So

774
00:55:32,027 --> 00:55:37,090
I don't know. It has no... It still has a

775
00:55:37,090 --> 00:55:40,853
problem with the episode. There are no dates. There's no

776
00:55:40,973 --> 00:55:43,274
pub dates in any of these items. Okay, so it

777
00:55:43,315 --> 00:55:47,017
could have been delisted because of that. This is a

778
00:55:47,077 --> 00:55:52,200
very screwed up feed. Yes, I agree. I saw that

779
00:55:52,220 --> 00:55:56,623
too. I didn't want to distract too much. Okay, so

780
00:55:56,724 --> 00:55:58,705
now we're in the process. Are we running that currently?

781
00:55:58,805 --> 00:56:03,088
Good. No, I'm not doing anything automated currently. Now, the

782
00:56:03,128 --> 00:56:08,111
Swedish trickler. He is going in and hand-coating some stuff.

783
00:56:08,171 --> 00:56:11,513
He's doing some curation. Oh, okay. Good. But, I mean,

784
00:56:11,553 --> 00:56:16,537
he's one man. Yes, just a lonely man. He's just

785
00:56:16,617 --> 00:56:20,279
a man. He can't be, you know, the home of

786
00:56:20,299 --> 00:56:25,983
doom metal. There's no way he could possibly. The killing

787
00:56:26,003 --> 00:56:28,165
hundreds of feeds a day so i don't i don't

788
00:56:28,245 --> 00:56:33,428
think so okay all right okay So back to your

789
00:56:33,568 --> 00:56:40,933
identity table. Yeah, so I... What's the status? Where are

790
00:56:40,953 --> 00:56:45,656
you at? Are you close? So where it's at currently

791
00:56:45,696 --> 00:56:59,025
is... I've just run... The initial. phase four stuff to

792
00:56:59,185 --> 00:57:04,149
rewrite. bunch of the external a bunch of the so

793
00:57:04,869 --> 00:57:10,693
okay so the databases is handled the exporters are handled

794
00:57:11,153 --> 00:57:16,737
and the ingestion pipeline is handled What? The next phase

795
00:57:17,077 --> 00:57:21,961
is the actual API endpoints. that deliver the content itself.

796
00:57:22,901 --> 00:57:24,583
And that is the part that scares me the most.

797
00:57:26,524 --> 00:57:32,148
And... So this is gonna take... a while of I

798
00:57:32,208 --> 00:57:36,170
don't know, a week or so, I feel like, and

799
00:57:36,390 --> 00:57:39,513
this could be a little bit at a time. with

800
00:57:39,673 --> 00:57:43,035
a lot of testing and that is another reason that

801
00:57:43,075 --> 00:57:49,099
I've become so dependent for this project. on the AI

802
00:57:49,359 --> 00:57:54,503
stuff because it... I need to know for a fact.

803
00:57:55,823 --> 00:58:02,948
debt. when it rewrites an API endpoint, that the previous

804
00:58:03,028 --> 00:58:09,593
content and the new content are byte identical. I don't

805
00:58:09,693 --> 00:58:12,615
want, I can't afford to have any nasty surprises. Right.

806
00:58:12,975 --> 00:58:17,258
Got it. So there's a time, I've just, it's been

807
00:58:17,378 --> 00:58:24,583
riding. a ton of integration tests. to do pre-post checking

808
00:58:25,423 --> 00:58:28,185
on it. I had it spin up a dev environment,

809
00:58:28,205 --> 00:58:30,667
which I've never had before. You know me, I've always

810
00:58:30,727 --> 00:58:33,429
live edited the production. That's where I learned it from.

811
00:58:33,469 --> 00:58:38,132
I learned it from you, okay. By watching you. And

812
00:58:38,892 --> 00:58:42,115
so, I mean, I'm the guy that just jumps into

813
00:58:42,155 --> 00:58:45,157
PHPStorm, makes an edit in the PHP, and does deploy.

814
00:58:46,097 --> 00:58:52,021
Save. Yeah, exactly. Control S. And so, I mean, actually

815
00:58:52,141 --> 00:58:56,444
having a dev environment and... and unit tests and that

816
00:58:56,464 --> 00:58:58,706
kind of thing. I mean, it has made me feel

817
00:58:58,786 --> 00:59:01,528
like I'm in a warm, fuzzy blanket. Right. And you're

818
00:59:01,628 --> 00:59:03,969
using your agent for this, which is your Pi agent

819
00:59:04,149 --> 00:59:09,473
on the RTX box. I was using, yes, I was

820
00:59:09,593 --> 00:59:12,595
using the Pi agent to do, what I was doing

821
00:59:12,695 --> 00:59:18,639
was using... Claude using the fable model to generate expensive

822
00:59:18,899 --> 00:59:21,721
expensive. That's why yeah I was using the fable model

823
00:59:21,781 --> 00:59:23,783
to write the plan and then having pi do all

824
00:59:23,823 --> 00:59:30,187
the execution and What I figured out is really it's

825
00:59:30,307 --> 00:59:38,973
not. that necessary because when When Claude, the expensive part

826
00:59:39,173 --> 00:59:43,916
is the planning. but when once That part is done

827
00:59:44,036 --> 00:59:47,118
like pretty much any model on the planet can run.

828
00:59:47,138 --> 00:59:48,819
Can do it. So once you have, you do the

829
00:59:49,020 --> 00:59:52,242
plan with Fable and then you switch over to Quinn.

830
00:59:53,342 --> 00:59:57,445
Yeah, and Quinn was just... Quinn 3.0 was just so

831
00:59:57,545 --> 00:59:59,947
slow that I was like, well, I'll just...

832
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,622
run it and it's not even using very much usage

833
01:00:03,702 --> 01:00:05,744
so I just let it stay on there. So I'm

834
01:00:05,804 --> 01:00:10,967
using the Quint model for the post checking so it's

835
01:00:11,448 --> 01:00:15,850
monitoring and telling me I've got a batch of podcasts

836
01:00:15,911 --> 01:00:21,394
that is monitoring on the API. and telling me When

837
01:00:21,474 --> 01:00:26,658
I make a change. If I get an alert. It's

838
01:00:26,678 --> 01:00:30,961
going to let me know that something changed. And it's

839
01:00:30,981 --> 01:00:37,065
also watching... the logs over tail scale. So it's a

840
01:00:37,125 --> 01:00:41,608
fairly, I'm just so nervous about this that I'm trying

841
01:00:41,648 --> 01:00:44,069
to have as many agentic eyeballs on it as I

842
01:00:44,129 --> 01:00:52,755
can. You're anthropomorphizing it. It has no eyeballs. It does

843
01:00:52,795 --> 01:00:59,499
not. Yes, that's right. Quinn 3.827B. That's right, Eric. in

844
01:01:01,621 --> 01:01:11,247
found that um cause of this project. And because it

845
01:01:11,307 --> 01:01:13,929
has sucked me into a particular way of doing things.

846
01:01:15,430 --> 01:01:21,694
that is just I'm now... I think there's a lot

847
01:01:21,774 --> 01:01:24,996
going on because I just was never a unit test

848
01:01:24,996 --> 01:01:29,419
guy. because it takes so long and every project that

849
01:01:29,459 --> 01:01:32,401
I'm involved in requires go fast, go fast, go fast.

850
01:01:33,462 --> 01:01:36,684
I mean, I cannot sit there and write. When you

851
01:01:36,704 --> 01:01:39,006
only get an hour a day to code, you can't

852
01:01:39,046 --> 01:01:41,948
spend the whole hour writing two unit tests. I mean,

853
01:01:42,308 --> 01:01:43,909
it's going to take you three weeks before you can

854
01:01:43,969 --> 01:01:48,292
ever even write the real function. And that's the issue

855
01:01:48,332 --> 01:01:51,514
that I'm running into and it's forcing me into a

856
01:01:51,594 --> 01:01:54,596
new way of doing things. And I know it is

857
01:01:54,636 --> 01:01:56,778
for other people, too. And you're enjoying it. You're enjoying

858
01:01:56,798 --> 01:01:58,659
it. I can tell. You're enjoying it. I know you

859
01:01:58,759 --> 01:02:03,422
are. You're liking it. You figured it out. I know

860
01:02:03,442 --> 01:02:17,511
you have. say it. Say it. Bye. Yes. I like.

861
01:02:19,112 --> 01:02:23,916
the I like the ability that it has given me

862
01:02:24,016 --> 01:02:30,180
that I did not have before. being able to properly

863
01:02:30,220 --> 01:02:38,605
test things. because I was always YoloGuy. because of speed.

864
01:02:39,686 --> 01:02:42,548
I needed to just get this thing off my checklist

865
01:02:42,568 --> 01:02:44,910
so I could move to the next thing. And I

866
01:02:44,970 --> 01:02:48,112
can confidently say that I would have just never done

867
01:02:48,152 --> 01:02:51,994
this project. I just never would have. I think YOLO

868
01:02:52,134 --> 01:02:58,158
guy is a potential show title. YOLO guy. YOLO guy

869
01:02:58,238 --> 01:03:01,841
is fun to be around, but nobody wants him on

870
01:03:01,861 --> 01:03:04,182
their staff. But you don't buy drugs from him, okay?

871
01:03:04,423 --> 01:03:08,565
No, no, no. No, you don't buy your drugs from

872
01:03:08,585 --> 01:03:10,587
him, and you also don't want him running your podcast

873
01:03:10,687 --> 01:03:15,190
index. No. So, you know. But just look at you,

874
01:03:15,270 --> 01:03:20,473
man. You're running Omachi? You're, uh, you're YOLOing. You're using

875
01:03:20,553 --> 01:03:23,715
agentic coding. I have corrupted you. I am so proud

876
01:03:23,755 --> 01:03:27,278
of myself. I mean. If I keep going in this

877
01:03:27,558 --> 01:03:30,020
direction, I'm gonna be used- I'm gonna be- before- Good

878
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:33,102
job, Adam. Ha ha ha, you've brought him to the

879
01:03:33,142 --> 01:03:37,785
dark side. At this rate, I'll be writing Ruby by

880
01:03:37,845 --> 01:03:42,508
the end of the year, which nobody wants. Nobody wants

881
01:03:42,548 --> 01:03:49,613
this. So we're... We're getting there. It's just a slow

882
01:03:49,713 --> 01:03:55,116
process by design because... Now, I may not be writing

883
01:03:55,116 --> 01:03:59,559
this code, but... You better believe I'm looking at every

884
01:03:59,619 --> 01:04:02,641
line of it because I don't. Yeah. I don't trust

885
01:04:03,562 --> 01:04:07,765
any of it. And it has already caught. Critical mistakes.

886
01:04:08,905 --> 01:04:13,709
Like more than one. There's been many times where I've

887
01:04:13,749 --> 01:04:18,892
said, where something just gave me pause and I said,

888
01:04:18,912 --> 01:04:23,495
"Okay, I need you to check this." I want a

889
01:04:23,575 --> 01:04:28,999
test suite specifically for this and this and this. It

890
01:04:29,079 --> 01:04:34,162
ran off and ran the test code for 20 minutes

891
01:04:34,182 --> 01:04:35,583
or so and it came back and it was like,

892
01:04:35,723 --> 01:04:40,346
critical bug. Oh yeah, yeah. I've seen this. And this

893
01:04:40,767 --> 01:04:47,691
is why I think... experience of system design and even

894
01:04:47,751 --> 01:04:49,232
if you're not a good coder as long as you

895
01:04:49,292 --> 01:04:52,454
understand system architecture and the way things are supposed to

896
01:04:52,915 --> 01:05:00,099
operate. you can properly handle these things. Because something gives

897
01:05:00,119 --> 01:05:02,161
you a spidey sense that, eh, I don't think this

898
01:05:02,361 --> 01:05:06,724
feels, something about this doesn't feel correct. And that's something

899
01:05:06,864 --> 01:05:10,246
that a person without the experience would not feel. No,

900
01:05:10,366 --> 01:05:13,248
you need it because these things go off the rails

901
01:05:13,388 --> 01:05:15,670
all the time. They're like, no, but I don't think

902
01:05:15,690 --> 01:05:17,751
you need to do it. Oh, you're right. Oh, it

903
01:05:17,851 --> 01:05:20,713
was in my memory file. Yeah, let me just check

904
01:05:20,793 --> 01:05:26,117
that. Yeah, okay. Yes, my bad. Yeah. Yeah. You have

905
01:05:26,157 --> 01:05:29,219
to understand what you're doing. I won't. No, I'm not

906
01:05:29,259 --> 01:05:32,781
writing it. It's all sustained in PHP. is staying in

907
01:05:32,841 --> 01:05:35,863
PHP for, and one reason to staying in PHP is

908
01:05:36,444 --> 01:05:41,647
because If there's one language that I am actually good

909
01:05:41,727 --> 01:05:45,430
at, it's PHP. Now, let's just take the jump here.

910
01:05:46,070 --> 01:05:55,236
So this will... somehow integrate with our our PodPain Cloud.

911
01:05:56,777 --> 01:06:02,001
our cloud of bathroom running nodes. Get the bat ears.

912
01:06:03,302 --> 01:06:11,107
Right? Y-yes. And that will be โ€“ there's a whole

913
01:06:11,167 --> 01:06:14,049
long list of things to come after this, but this

914
01:06:14,149 --> 01:06:17,691
is the critical one. Then once we get this thing

915
01:06:17,791 --> 01:06:19,432
out of the way. Then the whole thing is going

916
01:06:19,452 --> 01:06:24,376
to be decentralized, hash space, and we can retire. I

917
01:06:24,896 --> 01:06:30,219
am so looking forward to this day. Um... Yeah, and

918
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:34,602
then we'll start figuring out how to ship it, how

919
01:06:34,642 --> 01:06:36,784
to ship the database. Oh, this is going to be

920
01:06:36,884 --> 01:06:39,926
so cool. I mean, I can't believe I'm excited about

921
01:06:39,986 --> 01:06:44,229
this, but it's going to be cool. Ship the database.

922
01:06:44,289 --> 01:06:47,451
Love that. What I want is for everybody to have

923
01:06:48,051 --> 01:06:52,294
some kind of. dashboard or something running at all the

924
01:06:52,334 --> 01:06:54,516
time. Everybody who's got an interest in this project, I

925
01:06:54,596 --> 01:06:56,937
want them to all be able to just have some

926
01:06:56,997 --> 01:07:00,840
sort of interface where they're seeing what is happening in

927
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:06,704
the internals of the index at all times. Anybody, any

928
01:07:06,824 --> 01:07:12,407
trusted admin of the index can get in and... process

929
01:07:12,488 --> 01:07:16,810
of merge queue candidate. Isn't it amazing that this is

930
01:07:16,870 --> 01:07:19,652
the stuff that you're working on, that we're discussing, that

931
01:07:19,672 --> 01:07:22,514
the boardroom is doing, that this project is doing? Value

932
01:07:22,554 --> 01:07:26,217
for value, by the way. And meanwhile, in New York,

933
01:07:26,317 --> 01:07:30,680
everyone's arriving for podcast movement. They're going to talk for

934
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:35,623
three days about what is a play. What is a

935
01:07:36,043 --> 01:07:41,647
play? I just find that amazing. All the people making

936
01:07:41,727 --> 01:07:44,008
money over there talking about what's a play? And we

937
01:07:44,129 --> 01:07:47,711
are building the future of the โ€“ I was talking

938
01:07:47,711 --> 01:07:52,354
with Tina today. She says, um... What is a play?

939
01:07:52,754 --> 01:07:56,777
She said, what is a play? Because, you know, there's

940
01:07:56,857 --> 01:07:59,219
transitions in my life and things are changing and things

941
01:07:59,259 --> 01:08:01,960
are happening. You know, my co-host died, so things are

942
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:05,843
changing. And we're just talking about stuff. She says, why

943
01:08:05,923 --> 01:08:11,407
do you do Podcasting 2.0? valid question valid question you

944
01:08:11,467 --> 01:08:15,870
may have received this question yourself and i said And

945
01:08:15,930 --> 01:08:17,531
I didn't even have to think too long about it.

946
01:08:17,551 --> 01:08:21,493
It says, because it is a critical part of who

947
01:08:21,653 --> 01:08:27,137
I am and what I do. Because without this, my

948
01:08:27,277 --> 01:08:31,360
entire existence could be in jeopardy. Imagine I have to

949
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:34,782
go suck up to Spotify and Apple and Google and

950
01:08:34,842 --> 01:08:42,968
everybody to get my stuff out. and It's also... It's

951
01:08:43,428 --> 01:08:45,409
even the little things, you know, it's like the funding

952
01:08:45,469 --> 01:08:48,211
tag, it's the chapters, it's the transcripts, all the things

953
01:08:48,271 --> 01:08:50,473
that we've worked on. And then I followed up by.

954
01:08:51,453 --> 01:08:53,335
But you think that's bad? You should look at what

955
01:08:53,415 --> 01:08:58,998
Dave's doing for this thing. You make no money from

956
01:08:59,018 --> 01:09:00,459
it. I said, no, but that's not the point. It

957
01:09:00,539 --> 01:09:03,261
is fundamental, and I would say for both of us,

958
01:09:03,321 --> 01:09:08,385
to who we are and what we do. Yes. And

959
01:09:09,045 --> 01:09:11,066
my wife asks me this same question, and I ask

960
01:09:11,166 --> 01:09:13,888
myself this same question all the time. Does it usually

961
01:09:13,928 --> 01:09:16,230
come when the Amex bill arrives? That's when I usually

962
01:09:16,250 --> 01:09:20,913
get this question. It usually comes when the house is

963
01:09:21,013 --> 01:09:26,096
super dirty and I'm like... I'm like, I got to

964
01:09:26,116 --> 01:09:29,859
just give me one minute. I've got to finish this

965
01:09:29,899 --> 01:09:32,040
thing. Oh, I'll be right there. Oh, no, no, no,

966
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:34,722
man. I've learned this. This is not good. You just

967
01:09:34,762 --> 01:09:40,546
got to freeze that thing. Freeze. Just walk away. Yeah,

968
01:09:40,566 --> 01:09:47,471
no, I... I agree. It's become... It's part of your

969
01:09:47,551 --> 01:09:51,553
DNA. It's just part of my DNA. It is. Yes,

970
01:09:51,673 --> 01:09:55,236
Charlie. It is. I feel it in my DNA. Now

971
01:09:55,276 --> 01:09:59,939
I need to find that clip. And also a lot

972
01:09:59,939 --> 01:09:59,979
of

973
01:10:00,112 --> 01:10:04,055
things in the podcast world now depend on the index.

974
01:10:05,836 --> 01:10:09,138
It's not just a hobby. Here we go. Tell me

975
01:10:09,278 --> 01:10:14,181
about this sexuality. It's in your DNA. Yeah. Well, can

976
01:10:14,722 --> 01:10:18,764
we talk about the latest integration of the index into

977
01:10:18,845 --> 01:10:21,346
a product that has a couple of people who use

978
01:10:21,446 --> 01:10:29,231
it? I don't know where you're going. 120 million users.

979
01:10:32,033 --> 01:10:43,681
of an app? got me. Starts with a V. Wow.

980
01:10:48,184 --> 01:10:50,025
I'm having a brain fart, I guess. I feel like

981
01:10:50,065 --> 01:10:54,208
I should know this. Okay, one word. Oh, yeah. Can

982
01:10:54,268 --> 01:10:56,309
we talk about that? I don't know if we can

983
01:10:56,389 --> 01:10:58,651
talk about it. Why not? Is it super secret? I

984
01:10:58,651 --> 01:11:00,472
don't think it's super secret. No one said don't talk

985
01:11:00,572 --> 01:11:07,797
about it. I mean look at the email. Did they

986
01:11:07,857 --> 01:11:12,640
say don't talk about it? It's under embargo. We've signed

987
01:11:13,421 --> 01:11:21,126
an NDA about our DNA. Yeah, I mean, they don't

988
01:11:21,146 --> 01:11:24,848
talk about it. It's up to you. It's your discretion.

989
01:11:25,129 --> 01:11:27,950
At my discretion, thank you. That's what we say when

990
01:11:28,030 --> 01:11:29,712
landing. Do you think I can land this plane? At

991
01:11:29,772 --> 01:11:34,775
your discretion. We hope. Yeah. No, we got a nice

992
01:11:34,855 --> 01:11:38,297
email, a very nice email, real developer dudes, because they're

993
01:11:38,317 --> 01:11:41,299
like, hey, man, we'd really like to build in the

994
01:11:41,399 --> 01:11:44,962
index into our product. uh but we don't want to

995
01:11:45,022 --> 01:11:47,083
swamp you what do we do and so we came

996
01:11:47,163 --> 01:11:51,526
up with some caching discussions etc And I think it's

997
01:11:51,606 --> 01:11:56,890
just phenomenal that VLC is looking to integrate the index

998
01:11:57,130 --> 01:12:07,677
into their product. That's just amazing. This is why... This

999
01:12:07,757 --> 01:12:10,058
is why it's not just some sort of hobby or

1000
01:12:10,219 --> 01:12:13,721
like something that I can ignore. Yeah, this is important.

1001
01:12:13,801 --> 01:12:17,824
This is like really, this is amazing stuff. Yeah, it

1002
01:12:17,884 --> 01:12:20,565
has to, I mean, things, the more things start to

1003
01:12:20,605 --> 01:12:26,329
depend on. the index, the more, I mean, we can't,

1004
01:12:26,729 --> 01:12:29,391
we don't have Apple money or Spotify money or something

1005
01:12:29,391 --> 01:12:32,193
like that. So we will never be, we'll never have.

1006
01:12:32,974 --> 01:12:35,655
you know, 27 nines up time or whatever that is.

1007
01:12:36,656 --> 01:12:39,978
But we can have a reliable, stable product that people

1008
01:12:40,018 --> 01:12:43,441
can depend on. Yeah. That is possible. That's very possible.

1009
01:12:43,461 --> 01:12:46,443
And I was thinking, you know, will they put somewhere

1010
01:12:46,603 --> 01:12:48,984
on in the site or somewhere on their app like,

1011
01:12:49,024 --> 01:12:52,166
hey, you know, this podcast is from the podcast index

1012
01:12:52,306 --> 01:12:55,529
value for value. Consider supporting them for this wonderful service.

1013
01:12:56,489 --> 01:12:58,871
I hope so. They're free, aren't they? I don't think

1014
01:12:58,911 --> 01:13:01,913
there's a... Do they have a, do they have a,

1015
01:13:02,213 --> 01:13:05,595
are they, let me see. I think it's donation supported.

1016
01:13:05,796 --> 01:13:09,558
It should be. Let me see. free and open source

1017
01:13:09,678 --> 01:13:15,842
media, play on the corner. Help and join us. Join

1018
01:13:15,982 --> 01:13:19,865
us. and they give me a little website how to

1019
01:13:19,925 --> 01:13:26,369
contribute. Oh, they're a nonprofit organization. Oh, they're hardcore. Oh

1020
01:13:26,409 --> 01:13:31,092
good, see- I love stuff like this. I love โ€“

1021
01:13:31,973 --> 01:13:35,956
I love when... Groups like this, open source groups and

1022
01:13:36,016 --> 01:13:38,397
nonprofits, that kind of thing, can use the index because

1023
01:13:38,437 --> 01:13:40,499
I know it really makes a big impact on their

1024
01:13:40,499 --> 01:13:44,641
bottom. Yeah. You know, and that's a big deal for

1025
01:13:44,701 --> 01:13:47,183
me because we've had, me and you've talked, we've had

1026
01:13:47,263 --> 01:13:49,425
Zoom meetings with like Mozilla and stuff like that in

1027
01:13:49,444 --> 01:13:53,107
the past. Yeah. That's all, I mean, I like. I

1028
01:13:53,187 --> 01:13:56,609
like helping these kind of guys out. They're clearly not

1029
01:13:56,669 --> 01:13:59,271
in it for the money. Well, I don't know. They

1030
01:13:59,331 --> 01:14:02,173
may be doing very well. I mean... This is an

1031
01:14:02,233 --> 01:14:06,796
interesting group of people. President John Baptiste Kempf, Vice President

1032
01:14:06,876 --> 01:14:13,220
Konstantin Pavlov. These are foreigners, man. Vice President of Events,

1033
01:14:13,861 --> 01:14:21,786
Vibhuthi. Treasurer Thomas Gullim. Secretary Felix Paul Kuhne. I gotta

1034
01:14:21,826 --> 01:14:25,769
check it out, let me see. Let's see how much

1035
01:14:25,829 --> 01:14:29,871
money they have. video land. I bet it's not a

1036
01:14:29,931 --> 01:14:35,615
ton. You don't know. You don't know. 120 million people

1037
01:14:35,795 --> 01:14:42,220
using it. That's... How many of those? Actually donate. Well,

1038
01:14:42,420 --> 01:14:59,971
1% would be quite good. Robot, find the form 990

1039
01:15:00,192 --> 01:15:06,716
for the... it. video land let's say I love doing

1040
01:15:06,736 --> 01:15:12,440
this stuff. Okay, choice A, oh, form 990 does not

1041
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:16,262
exist. Oh, they're not a US registered. Okay, well, that

1042
01:15:16,282 --> 01:15:21,466
makes sense. Oh, they are French. They are French. Oh,

1043
01:15:21,666 --> 01:15:25,688
Benjamin Bellamy can walk over to their office. Show me

1044
01:15:25,749 --> 01:15:31,292
your papers. He can tap on the door. Yeah. Yeah,

1045
01:15:31,632 --> 01:15:36,996
there must be not a theory. Isn't the European parlance

1046
01:15:37,056 --> 01:15:40,038
for that a public interest corporation? Well, they say on

1047
01:15:40,078 --> 01:15:45,702
their website. nonprofit organization based in France. There you go,

1048
01:15:45,722 --> 01:15:51,446
based in France. Okay. But I don't know. The French

1049
01:15:51,606 --> 01:15:55,909
typically... Yeah, they get government money. I was going to

1050
01:15:55,989 --> 01:16:00,972
say that, yes, but to me, from my experience in

1051
01:16:00,992 --> 01:16:04,654
this project, the French typically either love us or hate

1052
01:16:04,755 --> 01:16:08,757
us. And so Benjamin loves us. Yeah. But what was

1053
01:16:08,777 --> 01:16:10,778
that group that we tried to deal with with Bitcoin

1054
01:16:10,839 --> 01:16:18,604
stuff? And they were like that. Which one? Oh, no,

1055
01:16:18,744 --> 01:16:20,605
that was the French guys. That was the other French

1056
01:16:20,665 --> 01:16:24,568
guys. What is the the lightning app? That's what it

1057
01:16:24,628 --> 01:16:30,231
was. The lightning app. French. Come on, boardroom. The French

1058
01:16:30,472 --> 01:16:34,935
Lightning App Wasn't it A-C-I-N-Q? Wasn't that the name of

1059
01:16:34,935 --> 01:16:37,756
the... Something like that, yeah. Oh, that guy was arrogant.

1060
01:16:38,997 --> 01:16:45,321
I know, oxymoron. Async Lightning Node. It wasn't async. It

1061
01:16:45,321 --> 01:16:50,545
was something else. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever it was. Yeah. But

1062
01:16:51,025 --> 01:16:53,867
yeah. So you can do whatever you want in America.

1063
01:16:53,967 --> 01:16:58,150
We do. We do. That's that's how I remember the

1064
01:16:58,210 --> 01:17:01,612
conversation. Pretty much. Yeah. What was the name of that?

1065
01:17:02,393 --> 01:17:20,705
Now you've got me. guessing. Uh... French. Bitcoin lightning. Yeah,

1066
01:17:20,785 --> 01:17:25,408
A-C-I-N-Q, async. Yes, you're right. It was a Phoenix wallet.

1067
01:17:25,608 --> 01:17:28,350
Was that the name? No, I think Async. Oh, yeah,

1068
01:17:28,350 --> 01:17:31,572
Phoenix wallet. You're right. Yeah, Phoenix wallet. Yes. Okay. Yeah,

1069
01:17:31,632 --> 01:17:34,594
you're right. That was way back at the beginning of

1070
01:17:34,834 --> 01:17:38,357
all the V for V stuff. Yeah. Same time Jack

1071
01:17:38,417 --> 01:17:46,002
Maulers went, yeah, okay, no. Right, yeah. Yeah, so that'll

1072
01:17:46,002 --> 01:17:48,023
be great. I hope โ€“ I want to work with

1073
01:17:48,043 --> 01:17:50,005
those guys and give them what they need so that

1074
01:17:50,044 --> 01:17:53,987
we can โ€“ and I really think โ€“ I'm appreciative.

1075
01:17:54,928 --> 01:17:58,150
Anytime somebody reaches out to us and says, hey, we're

1076
01:17:58,170 --> 01:18:00,632
about to bring a whole bunch of potential traffic to

1077
01:18:00,632 --> 01:18:02,213
you. We don't want to crush you. How do we

1078
01:18:02,293 --> 01:18:05,975
work with you? I've been thinking about 120 million users.

1079
01:18:06,055 --> 01:18:08,777
And I know a lot of people, because I know

1080
01:18:08,917 --> 01:18:11,619
because whenever I screw up something with the ID3 tags

1081
01:18:11,659 --> 01:18:14,481
or don't put the right image into the MP3 file,

1082
01:18:15,601 --> 01:18:19,284
the VLC users come out. Hey, man, I listen to

1083
01:18:19,344 --> 01:18:23,767
this on VLC. So who knows what kind? They may

1084
01:18:23,847 --> 01:18:28,050
be putting a full-blown podcast client in it. that would

1085
01:18:28,070 --> 01:18:32,132
make in the world of podcasting. Does Omarchi have a

1086
01:18:32,213 --> 01:18:36,315
VLC in it? I don't know. Let's try VLC. Yeah.

1087
01:18:37,016 --> 01:18:39,437
I don't know. Or is it called VideoLan? I just

1088
01:18:39,758 --> 01:18:43,400
do a super space and then type VLC. Don't you

1089
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:47,082
know how to launch apps, Dave? Super space VLC. And

1090
01:18:47,122 --> 01:18:50,084
type in VLC. There is no VLC. Oh, I must

1091
01:18:50,084 --> 01:18:53,507
have installed it myself. You have it on yours? Yeah,

1092
01:18:53,607 --> 01:18:55,768
I must have installed it myself. I use it all

1093
01:18:55,828 --> 01:18:59,150
the time. Well, how do I, I guess I need

1094
01:18:59,210 --> 01:19:00,611
to do here. Here's what I'm going to do. I'm

1095
01:19:00,611 --> 01:19:03,573
going to do command. I'm going to super shift. No,

1096
01:19:03,914 --> 01:19:08,457
super enter. I get a terminal. Yeah. Pac-Man. Pac-Man S.

1097
01:19:09,057 --> 01:19:18,623
Dash S. Uppercase S. VLC. pseudo make me a sandwich.

1098
01:19:20,865 --> 01:19:24,827
pseudo Oh, goodness gracious. I got a lot of things

1099
01:19:24,848 --> 01:19:31,252
here. Yes. Okay, alright. Boom, installed. It's done. There's no

1100
01:19:31,332 --> 01:19:34,134
step three. I just want to see what their current

1101
01:19:34,394 --> 01:19:36,996
podcast situation is. Oh, I don't think they have any

1102
01:19:37,076 --> 01:19:44,581
podcast situation going on. Playback, audio, video, tools. I don't

1103
01:19:44,661 --> 01:19:47,122
see any of the program guide. What is that? That's

1104
01:19:47,202 --> 01:19:50,545
nothing. What, MVLC? No, there's nothing in there yet. Yeah,

1105
01:19:50,545 --> 01:19:53,226
there's nothing in there. No, they're building it. Next release.

1106
01:19:54,567 --> 01:19:59,491
Next release. Yeah, so anyway, that's a thing. Let's thank

1107
01:19:59,531 --> 01:19:59,971
some people.

1108
01:20:00,084 --> 01:20:02,225
now that we have given you the longest intro to

1109
01:20:02,285 --> 01:20:05,868
Value for Value. Because if you're listening to a podcast,

1110
01:20:05,988 --> 01:20:08,690
if you're listening to this podcast on VLC, consider supporting

1111
01:20:08,710 --> 01:20:13,173
the podcast index. It's part of our DNA. And we'd

1112
01:20:13,193 --> 01:20:15,955
love you to support that. Not for our DNA, not

1113
01:20:16,015 --> 01:20:18,696
for our pocketbook, so this thing keeps rolling forever. We

1114
01:20:18,777 --> 01:20:24,981
are, in fact, volunteers. Right? Yeah. We're not employees. We

1115
01:20:25,041 --> 01:20:27,963
don't make any money off of it. We love doing

1116
01:20:28,043 --> 01:20:31,885
it because it's part of who we are. And you

1117
01:20:31,925 --> 01:20:38,770
can support us through PayPal. Go to Podcast Index. And

1118
01:20:39,250 --> 01:20:41,292
down at the bottom, there's a red donate button or

1119
01:20:41,372 --> 01:20:44,474
in your modern podcast that maybe there's a funding button

1120
01:20:44,654 --> 01:20:47,296
or sometimes it's a dollar sign. Sometimes it's a piggy

1121
01:20:47,396 --> 01:20:50,238
bank. There's all kinds of different iconography. Click on that.

1122
01:20:50,258 --> 01:20:52,739
That'll take you to the same place. You can also

1123
01:20:52,819 --> 01:20:55,401
send us a boost, and the boosts have been restored

1124
01:20:55,441 --> 01:20:57,543
on my machine here. So here's what came in from

1125
01:20:57,623 --> 01:21:06,809
Drebscott1234. He says... serpentine belt serpentine serpentine serpentine Almost done.

1126
01:21:07,009 --> 01:21:10,171
If I can get the belt intentioner to cooperate. Hashtag

1127
01:21:10,331 --> 01:21:14,354
truck talk. Nice. Do it. You may have to make

1128
01:21:14,374 --> 01:21:16,735
a custom tool. Those serpentine belt tensioners are hard to

1129
01:21:16,775 --> 01:21:22,399
get to. 7777 from Martin Lindeskog. Adam, talking of AI

1130
01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:25,942
robots and Beltway politics, are you looking forward to RoboCop

1131
01:21:26,222 --> 01:21:29,664
to be announced on Amazon Prime Video? Harp music? Oh,

1132
01:21:29,704 --> 01:21:32,406
I think I might have potted that down. Sorry. Your

1133
01:21:32,526 --> 01:21:36,329
earlier boost came in. The Salty Crayons 777 came in.

1134
01:21:37,770 --> 01:21:39,811
And, oh, by the way, Dave, keep your book tips

1135
01:21:39,871 --> 01:21:43,874
coming. Yes, these are highly, highly respected and appreciated. Salty

1136
01:21:43,914 --> 01:21:47,236
Crayon 777, listening to Godcasting on a modern podcast app

1137
01:21:47,276 --> 01:21:52,019
is like JSONs for Jesus. In the spirit, he says.

1138
01:21:52,099 --> 01:21:55,081
Thank you. Variation of in the pipe. 1, 2, 3,

1139
01:21:55,201 --> 01:21:58,524
5 from Drebscott. My truck just tried to eat me.

1140
01:21:59,684 --> 01:22:03,347
shocks holding my hood must slowly be giving out. Hashtag

1141
01:22:03,747 --> 01:22:12,273
truck talk for Dave. Pro tip. Get a broom handle.

1142
01:22:14,054 --> 01:22:17,616
Yeah, and cut it off and then stick it in

1143
01:22:17,676 --> 01:22:22,600
the side of the compartment or either under your seat

1144
01:22:23,300 --> 01:22:25,542
or in the trunk or something. That way when you

1145
01:22:25,622 --> 01:22:28,904
open the hood, prop that thing up. Oh, I see.

1146
01:22:29,244 --> 01:22:31,466
Oh, okay, the hood. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it wanted to

1147
01:22:31,486 --> 01:22:34,428
slam on his head. Oh, that's no good. Dreb Scott

1148
01:22:34,468 --> 01:22:37,810
again, 1234, use the combination of Grok and YouTube to

1149
01:22:37,890 --> 01:22:41,232
work on swapping out my alternator. Hopefully I don't die.

1150
01:22:41,652 --> 01:22:45,355
Hashtag truck talk for Dave. This is all truck talk.

1151
01:22:45,395 --> 01:22:47,917
This is wonderful. Yeah, it sounds like we have a

1152
01:22:47,937 --> 01:22:50,158
new podcast. Now you got your roadcaster hooked up to

1153
01:22:50,198 --> 01:22:54,521
Omachi? By the way, Kevin Finn texted me the other

1154
01:22:54,561 --> 01:22:57,263
day and said, I'm dying to hear where you were

1155
01:22:57,323 --> 01:23:03,647
going with your timing. with your ignition timing metaphor in

1156
01:23:03,767 --> 01:23:06,169
the Model T Ford. Maybe we should just go for

1157
01:23:06,209 --> 01:23:08,330
truck talk. I mean, we should just, and that would

1158
01:23:08,330 --> 01:23:10,572
be a value for value. No, we'll do ads. We'll

1159
01:23:10,572 --> 01:23:14,515
do ads. We'll do ads. Post show. You got to

1160
01:23:14,695 --> 01:23:17,597
subscribe to Podcast 2.0 Plus to get post show. You

1161
01:23:17,697 --> 01:23:19,798
got to get the premium package and we'll do video.

1162
01:23:19,938 --> 01:23:23,280
Oh, yeah, totally. Got to do video on YouTube. Riverside.

1163
01:23:26,122 --> 01:23:28,764
Riverside, which turns out, is made by Jews. Oh, no!

1164
01:23:29,465 --> 01:23:32,166
Oh, yeah, bronze. Oh, no, I can't believe it. People

1165
01:23:32,186 --> 01:23:36,709
should immediately shut down your account. Bronze, it's clearly Jew.

1166
01:23:40,432 --> 01:23:43,834
Martin Lindskoog, there he is, 1776. Here's another Liberty Boostergram.

1167
01:23:44,875 --> 01:23:53,141
Excuse me. 1776 Satoshi's Freedom of Expression. BoostMeBuddy.com user. No

1168
01:23:53,281 --> 01:23:57,143
other name there. 333. Thank you. Another Martin Lindeskog. Liberty

1169
01:23:57,183 --> 01:24:00,946
Boost. Oh, he has a little Statue of Liberty icon.

1170
01:24:01,266 --> 01:24:03,868
How nice. Boost for the citizens of New York City.

1171
01:24:03,928 --> 01:24:09,511
Never forget. Best premises. Martin Lindeskog. Lyceum. Drebscott1234. Replacing the

1172
01:24:09,532 --> 01:24:13,874
alternator on my 2008 F-150 while listening live. Hashtag Truck

1173
01:24:13,954 --> 01:24:17,197
Talk for Dave. There we go. And he also sent

1174
01:24:17,217 --> 01:24:22,480
a test boost. 1234. Wow, there's a 500 sat boost

1175
01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:24,942
for Curry and the Keeper. What is that? How did

1176
01:24:24,962 --> 01:24:28,985
that happen? That's random. That's all I got. There may

1177
01:24:29,045 --> 01:24:33,728
be more, but my node was down again for a

1178
01:24:33,768 --> 01:24:40,873
day. Hello! Yeah. I got some PayPals. Okay. Steven Santoni?

1179
01:24:42,834 --> 01:24:45,656
$25. He said, chipping in? No, thank you. Chipping in.

1180
01:24:46,616 --> 01:24:50,319
Ow. There we go. You okay? Did you trip over

1181
01:24:50,359 --> 01:24:55,422
the piano? Yeah, I did. Ralph a step 50 bucks.

1182
01:24:55,723 --> 01:25:00,646
Whoa, nice. Thank you, Ralph. We have the boosts. Yeah,

1183
01:25:00,726 --> 01:25:05,689
there we go. Martin Lindeskog, $1. Thank you, Martin. Brendan

1184
01:25:05,729 --> 01:25:10,012
Mulligan, that's a... Boys and Girls of Podpage. Yes. $25.

1185
01:25:10,052 --> 01:25:16,537
Joseph Maraca, $5. Nicholas Fett. one dollar Mitchell Downey, $50.

1186
01:25:16,977 --> 01:25:20,559
Thank you, Mitch. Thank you. Boost, boost, boost. And another

1187
01:25:20,619 --> 01:25:23,361
one from Mitch, $10. That first one was the Podverse.

1188
01:25:23,601 --> 01:25:29,946
Yes, it was Mitch's personal. Boost! Lauren Ball, $24.20. Christopher

1189
01:25:30,026 --> 01:25:36,990
Harabaric, $10. Damon Kasajak, $15. Thank you. Terry Keller, $5.

1190
01:25:37,511 --> 01:25:41,834
And the Salty Sessions Show, $10. No message. Salty Sessions.

1191
01:25:41,934 --> 01:25:45,696
Yeah, Salty Sessions. I think that's now also on Sundays,

1192
01:25:45,776 --> 01:25:48,458
I think. Salty Sessions before no agenda. Early in the

1193
01:25:48,498 --> 01:25:51,080
morning, I believe. I'm not sure. That's on the stream.

1194
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:53,221
Yeah, on the stream. Yeah, things are moving around. It's

1195
01:25:53,281 --> 01:25:57,364
beautiful. See, we've got... What? What have you got? Something?

1196
01:25:57,364 --> 01:26:00,106
No. No, no, no. No. No. We got 58 sets

1197
01:26:00,166 --> 01:26:04,309
from BoostMeBitch.com. I get boosts whenever there's a boost nearby.

1198
01:26:06,210 --> 01:26:13,815
you Um, I keep forgetting to do that. You know,

1199
01:26:13,895 --> 01:26:15,996
I listened to This Week in Bitcoin. I was like,

1200
01:26:16,197 --> 01:26:22,241
I got to use those jingles more. Bullysteed. And Fountain

1201
01:26:22,341 --> 01:26:25,743
sent us 929 sassies as it came for Podcasting 2.0

1202
01:26:25,843 --> 01:26:29,706
and stayed for the Dave Sage cast and book recommendations.

1203
01:26:29,746 --> 01:26:36,230
And truck talk. And truck talk. Dreb through Castamatic sent

1204
01:26:36,310 --> 01:26:40,893
a 716 SAT test boost. Ooh, nice. Thank you. We

1205
01:26:40,993 --> 01:26:45,476
got you, Drib. Let's see, I think you read these.

1206
01:26:45,636 --> 01:26:49,439
We got some anonymous. Yeah. Yeah, I think we got

1207
01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:52,041
all these. And we got Comic Store Blogger. Yes. The

1208
01:26:52,121 --> 01:26:57,084
Delimiter. 11,111 sets. Do you, have you, by the way,

1209
01:26:57,164 --> 01:27:04,449
have you seen how complete? and thorough my new... extraction

1210
01:27:04,529 --> 01:27:07,231
of all the boosts and paypal's is this is smooth

1211
01:27:07,311 --> 01:27:09,813
as silk i've noticed it yes it is it feels

1212
01:27:09,833 --> 01:27:12,014
very smooth what are you using what did you vibe

1213
01:27:12,094 --> 01:27:16,177
code It's something that I don't even understand it, but

1214
01:27:16,237 --> 01:27:20,560
it works, but it works. It goes into the. It

1215
01:27:20,740 --> 01:27:24,262
reaches into the heart of the LB hub. Oh, wow.

1216
01:27:25,163 --> 01:27:27,605
And rips out the boost and puts them in an

1217
01:27:27,765 --> 01:27:32,808
HTML file. That's awesome. Yeah. The world is changing, brother.

1218
01:27:35,070 --> 01:27:37,711
I will say that I've never seen an industry change

1219
01:27:38,952 --> 01:27:44,876
so fast. as coding. Yeah, it's crazy. It went from...

1220
01:27:46,057 --> 01:27:49,359
All hand code to all AI code. Remember, I went

1221
01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:53,062
like three months. I went from copy pasting in Gemini.

1222
01:27:54,403 --> 01:27:58,245
Remember I was doing that? And Grog. I started with

1223
01:27:58,305 --> 01:28:00,667
Grok, then Gemini. And I would literally, I'd say, this

1224
01:28:00,727 --> 01:28:03,349
doesn't work. And then do another version. I do select

1225
01:28:03,589 --> 01:28:07,131
all, copy, then go to my editor, paste. And then

1226
01:28:07,211 --> 01:28:09,433
you said, hey, Matt, you should try a CLI thing.

1227
01:28:09,493 --> 01:28:13,395
I'm like, oh, okay. Yeah, you were grumpy about that.

1228
01:28:14,216 --> 01:28:16,838
But once I figured it out, I never looked back.

1229
01:28:16,898 --> 01:28:18,339
And now I'm doing the same to other people. I'm

1230
01:28:18,359 --> 01:28:21,781
saying, hey. You should try Grokbot. Have you seen that?

1231
01:28:21,861 --> 01:28:27,345
Grokbot? Dude. It is changing people's lives. I think it

1232
01:28:27,405 --> 01:28:34,630
was part of the acquisition by, what did XAI buy?

1233
01:28:35,510 --> 01:28:45,357
The... thing they bought. Cursor? Cursor, yes. So you can

1234
01:28:45,437 --> 01:28:47,959
run it on your computer. You run it on an

1235
01:28:48,179 --> 01:28:51,861
app. same thing and it gives you a cloud computer

1236
01:28:53,082 --> 01:28:55,424
which you can actually see. There's like a little, do

1237
01:28:55,464 --> 01:28:58,646
you see the little cloud computer, a little desktop? and

1238
01:28:58,706 --> 01:29:01,988
you can fire up little bots and the whole idea

1239
01:29:02,028 --> 01:29:05,770
is that you tell each bot to do something specific

1240
01:29:06,471 --> 01:29:10,634
like scan for this or look for that or calculate

1241
01:29:10,714 --> 01:29:15,297
this and then you have a master bot, master botter

1242
01:29:16,137 --> 01:29:20,080
and the master botter checks everything else and is coordinating

1243
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:27,305
for you. It's like agents for dummies. Nothing wrong, nothing

1244
01:29:27,365 --> 01:29:32,368
bad will happen from this. Well, so Dana Brunetti, Hollywood

1245
01:29:32,388 --> 01:29:36,791
producer. Celebrate Hollywood producer from such famous movies such as

1246
01:29:36,911 --> 01:29:42,575
Captain Phillips house of cards Shades of Grey. Shades of

1247
01:29:43,216 --> 01:29:47,278
Grey was a Christian band. The real money maker. and

1248
01:29:47,318 --> 01:29:48,719
he's going to do the show with me on Sunday.

1249
01:29:50,260 --> 01:29:52,022
He said, I'll do the show. Okay, come and do

1250
01:29:52,082 --> 01:29:54,383
the show since you think you know everything, Hollywood man.

1251
01:29:55,444 --> 01:29:58,006
And he's like, "Why should I do clips?" That's it.

1252
01:29:59,226 --> 01:29:59,947
Okay, you can do.

1253
01:29:60,000 --> 01:30:02,862
You can go get Audacity and you can record stuff

1254
01:30:03,042 --> 01:30:06,544
or you can just use Grokbot and just give it

1255
01:30:06,544 --> 01:30:10,607
a YouTube video link and say, give me the transcript

1256
01:30:10,667 --> 01:30:12,528
and then say, start here, end here, give me an

1257
01:30:12,568 --> 01:30:16,911
MP3. And within five minutes, he's like, oh my God,

1258
01:30:16,951 --> 01:30:22,155
this is so easy. pretty cool bad things are gonna

1259
01:30:22,195 --> 01:30:25,157
happen with this this is the day this is how

1260
01:30:25,277 --> 01:30:30,220
the internet fails I'm not so sure. I don't think

1261
01:30:30,300 --> 01:30:35,103
so. People aren't really doing coding. Well, that's the problem.

1262
01:30:36,244 --> 01:30:38,246
People are doing stuff they don't understand. And on the

1263
01:30:38,306 --> 01:30:42,028
backside of that grog bot, it's hammering 50 websites to

1264
01:30:42,088 --> 01:30:43,869
death. It has guardrails. You don't even know. It has

1265
01:30:43,949 --> 01:30:49,393
guardrails, man. What are you talking about? Whatever. Nothing that

1266
01:30:49,493 --> 01:30:53,035
Elon Musk ever does has guardrails. All right. Let's get

1267
01:30:53,055 --> 01:30:57,739
to Comic Street Blogger, the final booster gram. Yes. 11,111

1268
01:30:57,839 --> 01:31:01,041
sats, he says. Howdy Dave and Adam. Thinking of you

1269
01:31:01,101 --> 01:31:04,923
both on 9/11, I remember learning what happened as I

1270
01:31:04,983 --> 01:31:08,286
was leaving the office. The work colleague had footage of

1271
01:31:08,326 --> 01:31:11,608
the towers on his computer screen. Sending warm thoughts to

1272
01:31:11,688 --> 01:31:16,951
you and your families. Yo, CSB. Worth $15.40 when sent.

1273
01:31:18,072 --> 01:31:21,595
Wow, he didn't even promote a podcast. I feel like

1274
01:31:21,655 --> 01:31:24,116
that's heartfelt from CSP. Yeah, oh, it is. Of course

1275
01:31:24,176 --> 01:31:28,359
it is. He's a very sensitive guy. He also offered

1276
01:31:28,439 --> 01:31:34,143
to run a... MCP server for the index. Yes, but

1277
01:31:34,203 --> 01:31:38,566
it requires... Only under 27 different qualifiers and a binding

1278
01:31:38,626 --> 01:31:44,790
contract. That's pretty funny. I'm like, okay, CSB. I promise

1279
01:31:44,890 --> 01:31:46,932
I will run your MCP server for you. Where should

1280
01:31:46,952 --> 01:31:52,075
I send the DocuSign? you I love that guy. I

1281
01:31:52,175 --> 01:31:55,537
love that. Again, no community is complete without comics or

1282
01:31:55,597 --> 01:31:59,300
blogger. If you want your community to be fully rounded,

1283
01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:02,542
you need CSB in it. And you are fortunate if

1284
01:32:02,582 --> 01:32:05,164
you have him in your community. I did his video

1285
01:32:05,204 --> 01:32:08,006
podcast. You have not. I'm going to. I'm going to.

1286
01:32:08,066 --> 01:32:11,248
I'm going to. I've been a little busy. And I'm

1287
01:32:11,288 --> 01:32:18,052
also trying to time it. For maximum effect. Exactly. All

1288
01:32:18,072 --> 01:32:21,555
right, brother. What are you doing this weekend? Well, we've

1289
01:32:21,575 --> 01:32:24,517
got a, yeah, it's pretty busy. I had my uncle

1290
01:32:24,697 --> 01:32:26,798
passed away this past week. Yeah, I'm sorry. Sorry to

1291
01:32:26,818 --> 01:32:31,221
hear that. Yeah, and we've got a funeral and a

1292
01:32:31,261 --> 01:32:33,523
birthday this weekend. So we get both sides of life.

1293
01:32:33,743 --> 01:32:36,305
Oh, yeah, it's like your partner dying and having a

1294
01:32:36,305 --> 01:32:39,707
grandbaby 24 hours apart. Pretty much, yeah. It seems to

1295
01:32:39,767 --> 01:32:41,468
be the way of the world these days. The older

1296
01:32:41,528 --> 01:32:44,230
you get, the more these things happen, I think. It's

1297
01:32:44,410 --> 01:32:46,692
been the way of the world since day one. And,

1298
01:32:47,172 --> 01:32:52,335
yeah, it's... Thank God that it's balanced in that way.

1299
01:32:52,876 --> 01:32:59,180
Yes. So, so funeral and that's it. Uh, funeral birthday

1300
01:32:59,961 --> 01:33:04,043
And one-year-old birthday and then got some climbing and some

1301
01:33:05,004 --> 01:33:06,365
other things to do with the daughter. Some truck work?

1302
01:33:06,485 --> 01:33:08,546
Any truck work? Any working on the rig, man? Any

1303
01:33:08,566 --> 01:33:10,948
truck? You working on your truck? No. No, I'm doing

1304
01:33:11,028 --> 01:33:14,590
crown molding Sunday. I would rather be working on the

1305
01:33:14,590 --> 01:33:17,392
truck, believe me. All right, everybody. It's in our DNA

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and you're under NDA. That means we will be back

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next week with another episode of Podcasting 2.0 where we

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are creating the future and you're here to enjoy the

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ride. See you then, everybody. Bye-bye. You have been listening

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Podcasting 2.0. Podcasting 2.0. Podcasting 2.0. Podcasting 2.0.

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to Podcasting 2.0. Visit podcastindex.org for more information. Go podcasting!

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it on your own time.