Episode 106: Steak & Eggs!

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Oh, podcasting 2.0 for October
14 2022, episode 106 steak and

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eggs Hello everybody, welcome
once again to the official board

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meeting of podcasting. 2.0 It's
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namespace Who's In Who's in even
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happening at NOVA at Fun cast
index dot social. I do too many

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podcasts. I'm Adam curry here in
the heart of the Texas Hill

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Country and in Alabama, the man
who deals with taxes twice a

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year. Say hello to my friend on
the other end ladies and

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gentlemen, Mr. Game Jones.

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Yes, what was sitting on my
door? Step or stoop or whatever

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you wanna call it when I got
home to for podcast lunch today?

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Another chicken No, no. Opposite
of chicken. Yeah, a

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Oh, Your. Your your beef up from
your big box. Beef box. Where do

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you get it from? Yeah, from KNC
cattle. Oh, man. All right.

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Yeah, the OG I get the OG beef
box. Yeah. Did 2020 pounds of

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ground beef. Nigel went down.
Rapid rapid. Very well. Like

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well packaged, taped up, you
know, dry eyes the whole the

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whole thing? I'm I was stoked.
Yes. Very happy.

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You know, Christina have been
eating KNC cattle grass raised

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in beef for? Oh, I don't know.
At least half a year now. Maybe

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a little bit longer. And in the
last two evenings because in

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Yeah, she's been doing this
program. So we've been eating a

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lot of beef for breakfast for
lunch for dinner, just beef beef

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V which believe me is not a
hardship. And they were so twice

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we've been to a restaurant good
restaurants here in

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Fredericksburg. And anyway,
like, this beef sucks. Really,

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our beef is sick. You really
like hamburgers? Are you kidding

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me? You'll notice the
difference. You won't be able to

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eat a burger anywhere else. Or
you'll be like, Hey, let me just

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bring my own beef here. Why
don't you want to cook mine up?

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It is a snub

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nose, right? Beef snob, big
time.

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I'm looking forward to enough.
I've spoken about health issues

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with me in the past to hear on
the on the show. And like the

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one I've tried every dietary
thing, all this kind of stuff

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ever. But like really, you know,
sent this to you.

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This is the erectile dysfunction
you're talking about.

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Well dried into the you know,
sort of like, I sent you this,

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these clips of a couple of weeks
ago about from the Peter Thiel

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podcast where he interviewed
this guy about protein, right.

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And I never realized, you know
how low protein my diet is. Now

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I'm bad to not, I'm bad to not
eat enough, just period, my

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calorie intake on a daily basis,
if I don't, if I'm not

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deliberate about it, and watch
myself, you know, I'll look back

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over a couple of week period of
time, and I'll have eaten like,

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you know, 13 1400 calories a
day. So that's, that's just

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simply not enough. And so that's
that's one issue. And then, but

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then I started looking at what
I've been eating for the last

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few years. There it is. And I'm
like, you know, I'm probably

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really deficient in basic amino
acids and protein. And then I'm

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like, Okay, I gotta, I gotta
work on this. And so I've been

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doing like, until I get the beef
box, the beef box really going

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to be the core of my my dietary
experiment here. But then it

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started also doing like a pure
whey protein isolate. Shake.

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Once once a day, you know the,
that gives you like a good cross

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section of amino acids that are
not synthetic baloney. And then,

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and I can tell you, man, it's
it's hard. It made a big

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difference in the way I feel. I
really think I was severely

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deficient in protein.

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Oh man, wait until you start
hammering this beef. I mean, the

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beef I've heard such stories of
miraculous recovery people who

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have had issues for 20 years IBS
diabetes in two weeks, two weeks

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of pure beef real good beef done
no more symptoms, no more

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problems.

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So my question though, is is
from a from a now seasoned beef

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expert, such as yourself and

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yes, yes. The petty or be snobs.
Yes.

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How do you do? What is what is
the proper way to do a beef

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based breakfast?

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Well, funny enough, she usually
makes hamburgers. And then the

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night the night before he just
grab a hamburger. You know, pop

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it in the microwave, heat it up
and just eat it like that. Also.

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It's hard to get but really well
sourced. bacon. I mean, you can

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eat 10 pieces of of cooked bacon
in the morning and be done until

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past lunch. Yeah, that's really
incredible. You know

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one thing about bacon, that pit
so beef, this turned into the

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protein podcast that beef, it
ruminant animals to create their

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saturated fat, their their their
fat in them is saturated. It's

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almost all saturated. Because
they they do not consume fat,

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they consume grass. So they
don't eat because they don't eat

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dietary fat. Their body creates
all their fat through lapping

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1000s

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they actually create a more than
goes in. I played those clips on

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the no agenda that were so good.

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No, but this is not about the
protein. This is about fat.

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Okay, this is about the fat.
Yeah, so the fat is saturated,

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which is which is good. So then
you but with pigs with pork, a

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lot of people don't know and I
didn't know this either. Until

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recently that most pork is not
saturated. It's mostly it's very

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high in polyunsaturated fat,
because you think meat equals

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saturated fat, but it's really
not that way. It's most

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important since they're fed with
like slop, which is you know,

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just leftovers that's going to
be dominated by like soybean oil

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and things.

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The problem you can have a kind
of pigs fed people are

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complaining in the chat room
like what is this the protein

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2.0 podcast?

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Yeah, yes. Yeah. Fair point. Is
there podcast stuff going on?

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I'm not aware

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of this was a very interesting
week for the value for value

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portion of podcasting 2.0 in
multiple ways, with the PayPal

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acceptable use policy debacle?

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We were we were slightly
victimized by that as well on

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this very show.

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Yeah, no agenda which which I
think we'll be able to show how

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this impacts things. No agenda
has always solicited almost

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every single kind of of payment,
you know, checks cash, gold

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coins, Zell pop money, you name
it.

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And briefly Bitcoin for like,
never

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Neverland, no, never, ever
really know, people just sending

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I know what they do. And, but
the majority is through PayPal.

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So what happened is there was an
interpretation by people,

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listeners, just regular old
users, that not only could it be

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a podcast host just to keep it
in podcast, and could be for all

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kinds of different content, but
I think it's geared towards

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podcasting. But also, if you
donate it to a podcast, and

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therefore was financing,
misinformation, or

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disinformation, as determined by
the powers that be, you could

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get dinged for two and a half
1000. So people had a very knee

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jerk. And the honestly from
from, from my standpoint is a

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very valid response, which was
Screw you. And then they so they

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quit their account. But when you
quit your account, you know that

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$50 a month you were sending us
also quit. So that was about

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250 300. accounts that closed,
that hurts. That hurts. Yeah, it

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hurts.

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So there is not that there was
not nearly like that with us.

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But there were still there were
three that quit on us and

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strike. I mean, it's not a large
dollar amount, it would ended up

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being $25 a month total. So it's
like a 10, a 10 and a five. But

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I mean, with our you know, our
budgets are small. And so we

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don't that that is a that is a
notable

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thing right now, now there's a
silver lining to this. Now,

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first of all, DeVore and I have
had ongoing this this

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conversation for several years.
But also, you know, if you use

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PayPal, then again, this is the
this is our weakest link this

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and I'll be honest about it's
very, very weak. And part of the

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reason why this podcasting 2.0
value for value system was

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developed was for just this very
case. The you can't if you use

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PayPal, by the agreement, you
can't say anything negative

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about PayPal. So really the Oh
yeah. And that's most services.

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But you know, when when you know
that it's a paper payment

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processor that's already a
little volatile and doing and

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doing weird shit, then you're
like, Okay, well, let's not talk

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about it for a minute. Because
that would give them a very

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valid reason to close us down.
Now we've had nothing but good

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experiences. We have an account
manager who was in call. All

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that's been great. I don't like
any of the stuff they're doing

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either. But I also like being
able to help my family and pay

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the mortgage. Yes, so the silver
lining is John has agreed that

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as long as we can have instant
processing, or settlement of the

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of any payments into US dollars,
that we can now start accepting

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bitcoin on no agenda. And this
made me very happy in a sad

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moment, because this means that,
and I'll tell you who I'm

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working with, and what we're
doing in the moment, this means

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that once I just have the
regular, you know, like an on

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chain and a lightning invoice
type payment setup, then we can

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add Kison, then we can add
booster grams, and we can talk

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about it on the show. And that
will and that as you can see

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from my op, three stats might be
meaningful.

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So you so it may be worth it. So
John, John's, John's concern

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about Bitcoin is really purely
like a, just that is a is a

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financial instrument within the
united states within the United

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States illegally. He's just
concerned, but he's been

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concerned about that aspect of
things, like not muddying the

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water with IRS shenanigans and
things like that. Is that Is

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that fair to say?

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That is exactly the reason why
we had an audit early on. Not

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well, not early on, but when it
went when an audit mattered. And

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the IRS was very confused about
a business model, you know, all

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they saw was big amounts of cash
and just hundreds of checks. And

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like, what, what kind of
business are you running here?

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You know, import export or
something? So, yeah, so we set

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it all up. And you know, and
it's a good system is like, you

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don't want to rock the boat,
because, you know, I've been

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through so many IRS things that
really sucks.

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And you're a small business.
That is always not like, you're

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always going to be the one that
gets the hammer, the short end

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of the stick when it comes to
anything like that.

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Yeah, I mean, it's the it's the
entire business right there. So

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we've, we've been very well we
have an agreement, you know, we

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each have a an equally valid
veto. If we don't both agree,

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then it's a veto, we can try and
convince each other we can yell

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whatever, it doesn't matter.
Veto was veto. And that's been

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his veto, and I you know, I
respect that. But I keep trying.

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And I think there's another
aspect to it, he's really angry

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at the Bitcoin for not seeing
its value and Pooh, poohing it

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and never getting on board and
he thinks it's too late, and he

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can never jump on the train. And
it doesn't matter what I say, he

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won't do that. But this was also
a special moment of weakness.

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You know, now all of a sudden,
it's like, oh, shit, you know,

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this could go south. And, and it
already is. So, you know, here's

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a way to circumvent that whole
problem. We're just, it's just

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like any other payment
processor, we're getting dollars

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in our account. And we get an
accounting, we, you know, we get

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a note we get a user name or an
email address and, and the

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payment, and that's it. And so
and he's like, Okay, let's do

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that. So I'm really excited and
so actually a slim Texas limb

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hooked me up with ibex, I think
it is ibex,

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IB, E X.

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Two it is let me just check. And
they do the whole system for the

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beef initiative. And so I talked
to their representative. They're

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very very active, which I like a
lot. I like when they like call

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me like, actually the Annalise
the woman. ibex, yeah. The woman

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who's the account representative
she was at at the Oh, the Holy

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Holy Cow ranch. staying for a
few days with is it Walden and

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and I think by so the you know,
they're ranchers like Kane See,

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she's there to learn the
business so that they can do

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even more for them with their
with their financial products.

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Yeah, she's embedding old
school. Exactly embedding years.

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I think they're from El Salvador
they have an office in Miami,

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but it looks like one of these
outfits that maybe started in El

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Salvador so I said look

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when the banker in the back in
the days when the banker used to

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come out to your business and
look around to get an idea of

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what you're doing you know, so
they know if you really need a

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good for the loan

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and what your needs might be
wasn't always just good for the

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loan. So there's another thing
about Pay Pal which I didn't

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realize was because I said to
John, I said, you know we should

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get stripe or you know, let's
get some one of these other

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things on board. He said, Yeah,
just believe me. I've been

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looking for six months. What do
you mean how hard is that

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there's lots of alternatives and
none of them Pay Pal is unique

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with subscriptions. is unique.

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Yes, they are a bank. Yep. Just
taking the They can do a

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withdrawal. Yep. Cuz you set up,
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agreement and you're agreeing to
allow them to deduct money

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automatically from your bank
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what stripe is.

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Exactly. So. So I, so what I
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is, and we have a meeting, I
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whole team, I need basically a
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term I learned from you with the
block tag, like I need to drop

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it, Pay Pal dropping, so I need
to go get my partner ID but he

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has to be able to make a link,
just as with a button, so that

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he can have that in his
newsletter, nothing complicated,

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just drop in poom, it has to do
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you know give us the same, you
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reporting, who it's from, you
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want to give it email address,
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we can identify multiple
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the payment. And then for extra
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subscription? You said yeah,
we're working on a couple things

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with that. It will work. I mean,
obviously, just like with Pay

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Pal, the subscription payment
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coin in the in the can, so to
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working on something like that,
I'd have to see how that works.

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But anyway, I'm really excited
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that that'll really open stuff
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enough that it'll get through to
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able to promote booster grams.
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this not this was a topic in a
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people were tweeting you know,
value for value, who everywhere

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value for value. This thing has
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own. And I was listening to pod
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produced that. He produced that
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produces it.

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puts it together and does the
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the interviews. I thought I
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James did that. I think he does
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talking about doing this stuff
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may be wrong.

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What happens is, yeah, you may
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Twitter late his time UK time.
Yeah, where's the show? Hey,

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man, this show is late. The show
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Now I don't get it until Friday.
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like, whose is He? Is he up late
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getting up early to do it.
Anyway, doesn't doesn't matter?

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don't like it.

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people's words off yeah,

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editing speech. And this is my
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as well, in general, you know,
those subtle little pauses and

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sometimes you want to leave a
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or you want to get a little a
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you want to get it right at the
right moment. And I hear it I

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just hear so much too tight. And
it almost sounds like it's time

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compressed sometimes. That's
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professional opinion, audio
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Some things look to the like,
they look to the waveform, like

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they're in a or an ohm or
something like that. And it

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chops it. Yeah,

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I like it. You got to have some
of those moments. And also

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you're not a robot robot. Okay,
here's So Todd Cochran was on.

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Okay, and we've already seen
we've seen a change in our child

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recently. Todd has really
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behavior big.

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So Todd, he's, this is what I
love about him. And so we

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celebrated 18 years and like 8
million episodes of The of his

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podcast and and astoundingly,
he's since the days of Chris

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Redlener. I think her name was
he still has GoDaddy as a as a

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sponsor of his geek News
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that's it's a staple. It's, it's
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And when he digs in, he digs in,
he digs in. And so he has, you

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know, I would say, almost like a
come to Jesus type of moment,

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where he's just like, holy crap,
this is the way to go. And he

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tells a story about how he's
been thinking about it all

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wrong. And he was he was
actually listen to our show. And

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it just hit him like a ton of
bricks. And so he's all in and

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just I wanted to play a quick
minute here of what he feels his

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role is in two podcasts in 2.0.
With blueberry

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depending on how you want to put
it, I have to bring these

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podcasts 2.0 features to the
platform in order to educate the

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podcasters so that the
podcasters then will demand of

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the app device Well, uppers to
please implement this, versus

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vice versa. I think I have. And
I think we work at both ways

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together with app developers
implementing and hosting

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providers. And you know, don't
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rss.com us, there's a few others
that are being very proactive in

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thinking about podcasting. 2.0.
And I think that it's critical

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for us to think about how we're
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listeners going forward, but how
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you know, my part of my company,
a mantra right now our theme is

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publish, analyze, grow. And the
Grow piece is probably 80% of

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that mantra, how am I going to
help podcasters grow because

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this is what they're asking me
every day, I'm gonna want to

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grow my show and Chroma show.

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So, I like what Todd is saying,
because I know what how Todd is

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with the educational piece of
the business, which is really

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not quantifiable. You know,
they, they have to it's built

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into the deal. But I think for
all the, all the great work that

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the hosting companies who have
come long before blueberry and

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implementing this, and really
leading the way and getting it

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to a point where Todd wakes up.
I mean, that's really what it

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was, like boiling and he admits
it. So first of all, that's just

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a beautiful moment. But I think
on the education side, you're

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gonna see blueberry doing a lot.
He understands that he you know,

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he understands, like, we need to
get better, we have to focus not

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just on the apple on the
Spotify, Chiclets everywhere of

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then, you know, he's, he's a
real, he's like OCD for detail

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on that kind of stuff. And I
think he's gonna show everybody

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else like, here's how you can
really push this from the pub

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from the podcast hosting side to
get people interested, find ways

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to explain things to them. And
that's where the second clip

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comes in. Which was, this is a
beautiful moment between two

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men, Todd Cochran and Sam Sethi.
It's a beautiful moment here.

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Listen, he's shilling value for
value based upon the the PayPal

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events podcasters got to be able
to own their stack. And just

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like this little thing that
PayPal did the other day. Yeah.

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Pay Pal said it came in an honor
and a up said, Hey, if you say

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something, that's
misinformation, we're going to

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find you $2,500, for instance,
and of course, they had massive

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pushback. But I talked about on
the tech show, I'm thinking, if

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they had continued that and put
that into policy, I rely on Pay

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Pal for my business. And for my
podcast for years, where do I

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go? What do I use? What do I
ship to to protect myself? And I

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don't know if I even have an
answer for that right now. But

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podcast 2.0 has the potential
over time to allow content

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listeners to make micro
donations to the shows that

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would not be possible for
someone who wants to send me two

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bucks, it's going to be 50 cents
of processing. Exactly. So I'm

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not a Bitcoin Satoshi investment
expert. And I don't claim be by

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its as a donation model, it
works good. If people can just

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think about it as a token, a
token to a podcaster, that value

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is going to go up and down. But
if you don't really think about,

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you buy the Satoshis and get so
many for a value. But in the

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end, it's going to be a number
10,000 Satoshis. I don't even

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know what that's worth is that a
buck or whatever it may be? If

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he has to make a contribution
10,000. To me, that is the

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numbers 10k, it's not really the
dollar amount, ultimately backs

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out the dollar, and I can cash
that money out. But as a host,

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and I understand this now, but I
gotta explain this to a

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podcaster that doesn't know how
to right click a mouse.

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The same way, if I want to send
you 10,000 SATs, I just need

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your lightning address. I don't
need to know about the various

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ways that it's going up and down
and back and forth. And whatever

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it's doing raise rates, maybe in
six months time, I think we will

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be there. It's happening fast,
but it's maybe a little bit too

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early still.

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So it's just one piece. That's
just one thing of what three

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things that are being worked on
the lit tag, the the cross app,

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comments, all that stuff is
there's just a whole bunch of

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stuff there. So you basically
our approach is we're going to

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you know, in be honest with you,
it's simple to implement some of

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this stuff is just a textfield.
The key really is though, is

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making sure that we have the
education, the back end process

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to make the listener or the
podcaster. Understand this is

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why we're doing this. This is
something you can opt into.

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Here's the information you can
put in and so you know we're all

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in we really are and I laid the
gauntlet down a number of times

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on the new media show
encouraging other platforms to

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get involved.

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So I liked it there abstracted
Like, I really don't give a crap

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how this works, just make it
work, so I can explain it to the

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rest of the dummies like me.
Yeah. And that's perfect. That's

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this is such a beautiful moment,
this is really, really good. And

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I so agree. And, you know, we
got our heads way too deep and

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channels and lightning and core
lightning. And so these guys,

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they just go way above that go,
Yeah, I can see how we just do

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this email address thing. And,
you know, it's up to us to make

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that work everywhere, down under
the hood. But, and then

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obviously, you know, Todd hasn't
quite seen that, Mike, a whole

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bunch of micro payments can make
a macro payment. And we've seen

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that on this very podcast, we've
gotten 5 million SATs and a

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boost previously.

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Yeah, I was gonna I

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was just gonna say that it's,
that's interesting that we

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market so hard that it's micro
payments, that I can see the

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mental block that well, clearly,
that's not a good way to send

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$100. But it is, that's the
beauty of it. And once you once

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people are into the ecosystem,
well, then you can add an On

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chain QR code, or lightning QR
codes, a lot of different things

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you can do. But, you know, I,
you and I even talked about it.

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So after this, after the Pay Pal
pocalypse, it's like, you know,

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should we increase our channels,
and I took a look. And you know,

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we're pretty good with the with
our main partners like, you

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know, fountain and of course LM
pay runs on on our on our

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system. Breeze has opened big,
big pipe to us. So we're pretty

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good. But But yeah, people can
send 567 million SATs into

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single boost if they if they
want to.

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Yeah, that's that's one thing is
that the amounts that are

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available for routing payments
on the lightning network as a

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whole have gone up a lot, if you
just in the time that we've been

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doing the podcasting to put in a
project. So if you go back to

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August of 2000, your ability to
route them, it was dicey, if

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you're gonna get 1000 bucks
through the system, very dicey.

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Now, I mean, this the way it is
now. I mean, $1,000, that's

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pretty solid, I mean, you're
gonna get that through, I feel

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very good about $1,000 payment
going through. So that means

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anything less than that is on
really firm footing, you know,

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the, the issue is going to be
with with failed payments,

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really the issue is going to be
with people who run their own

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nodes, and are early adopters
and don't understand the

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liquidity provisions there. So
they don't, they're not

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monitoring those channels. Now
that there's a lot of those

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people because a lot of people
did want to just be an early

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00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:57,120
adopter. And they're not going
to have $1,000 of liquidity on

433
00:27:57,120 --> 00:28:02,610
their node. But the the, that
doesn't mean but that's that's a

434
00:28:02,610 --> 00:28:07,830
separate thing. That's like a
side issue. That's an issue of a

435
00:28:09,180 --> 00:28:15,030
of a of a technology adoption
curve with a certain segment of

436
00:28:15,030 --> 00:28:19,710
people. Now, for what and what
people have been saying all

437
00:28:19,710 --> 00:28:23,190
along is, well, there's going to
be there needs to be broader

438
00:28:23,190 --> 00:28:27,120
adoption. Well, that broader
adoption is for certain going to

439
00:28:27,120 --> 00:28:34,470
happen with custodial solutions,
things like fountain owl be. Now

440
00:28:34,470 --> 00:28:39,420
what I'm not going to put LNP in
there, but other other payment

441
00:28:39,420 --> 00:28:42,390
platforms and custodial
solutions that come about

442
00:28:42,390 --> 00:28:43,620
breeze, let's say breeze,

443
00:28:43,650 --> 00:28:48,600
also the hybrid model where it
will be a will be sovereign. So

444
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,790
you will be the only one with
the keys. But there's a cloud

445
00:28:50,790 --> 00:28:54,600
component that will help you
receive when you're when your

446
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,390
keys are not available to sign
at that moment.

447
00:28:57,900 --> 00:29:01,800
Yeah, and that's a three reason
there is custodial. I don't mean

448
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,320
their custodial with your keys,
I just mean their custodial

449
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,410
liquidity. They're gonna they're
held up in your liquid and

450
00:29:07,410 --> 00:29:10,380
met Yeah, managing liquidity on
the back end, which is exactly

451
00:29:10,380 --> 00:29:13,260
what a lightning service
provider does. That's what

452
00:29:13,260 --> 00:29:15,960
breeze does, in fact, and
voltage has a version of it,

453
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:16,260
too.

454
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,950
So if you look down the line, I
guess what I'm trying to get to

455
00:29:19,950 --> 00:29:24,570
is if you look, let's just say
you look down like Sam said six

456
00:29:24,570 --> 00:29:27,270
months, he mentioned that
timeframe in that clip.

457
00:29:28,770 --> 00:29:29,910
Sam was clueless.

458
00:29:34,770 --> 00:29:37,620
Yeah, for people who don't know,
that tongue in cheek, Sam is

459
00:29:37,620 --> 00:29:41,670
very clued in and he plays dumb,
but he knows

460
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,410
exactly what's going on.

461
00:29:44,010 --> 00:29:46,950
So he's six months, you know, he
gives the terms he uses six

462
00:29:46,950 --> 00:29:49,890
months. Let's just say okay, so
let's broaden that, say six

463
00:29:49,890 --> 00:29:53,730
months to a year. Okay, well,
then I'm thinking six months to

464
00:29:53,730 --> 00:29:57,420
a year, you definitely have
firmly established custodial

465
00:29:57,420 --> 00:30:01,950
solutions that can handle large
payments. Huh $1,000 will be no

466
00:30:01,950 --> 00:30:07,920
problem at all. So if you have a
concern if you're a podcaster

467
00:30:08,430 --> 00:30:11,970
and you're like well I want to
do value for value and I want to

468
00:30:11,970 --> 00:30:14,670
be able and I actually do have
people that are going to sit and

469
00:30:14,670 --> 00:30:21,360
read you know, send me under
200 $500,000 within go do a

470
00:30:21,390 --> 00:30:26,850
custodial solution do a do an lb
or a fountain or one of these

471
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:31,140
custodial things or whatever
emerges it later and then run

472
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:37,650
take that or or do or do a
breeze wallet and then and then

473
00:30:37,740 --> 00:30:41,370
offload those that those sets
off to somewhere else after the

474
00:30:41,370 --> 00:30:43,920
fact you don't you don't have to
keep just because you're

475
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:48,840
custodial in the transport
doesn't mean you have to keep it

476
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:53,280
there you can then you can then
shuffle that those sets off into

477
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,590
another war that you know the
keys for me are for

478
00:30:55,590 --> 00:30:59,520
instance the ibex solution
they're developing this with

479
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,820
podcasters in mind so this is
this is a perfect get together

480
00:31:02,820 --> 00:31:09,390
it's completely custodial but
for people like like ourselves

481
00:31:09,510 --> 00:31:13,530
because it's not just John I
mean yeah he's he's been the the

482
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:18,510
the friction but we're in it
together you know the you have

483
00:31:18,510 --> 00:31:24,780
no exposure to volatility in the
market and you get swept out you

484
00:31:24,780 --> 00:31:28,020
know, so you almost have no risk
at all except maybe an overnight

485
00:31:28,020 --> 00:31:31,920
of some payments if something
went wrong. And they're gonna I

486
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:36,780
think that they will probably
integrate heli pad or you know,

487
00:31:36,780 --> 00:31:40,680
who knows maybe they buy Alby
and squid and put the Saturn

488
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,170
stuff and I mean that's what I
love so much there's this whole

489
00:31:43,170 --> 00:31:46,680
other space that is just waking
up to this going crap we can we

490
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,810
can create services for these
people

491
00:31:50,220 --> 00:31:55,140
yet you know we I also I was on
John CI G's pragmatic show

492
00:31:55,140 --> 00:31:59,310
Wednesday we recorded Wednesday,
it's not out yet. But we were

493
00:31:59,310 --> 00:32:04,890
talking we talked a lot about
Bitcoin there. And I'm a made a

494
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,570
so I made a sort of a statement
or discussed a thing where I

495
00:32:09,570 --> 00:32:15,840
said I'm not a maximalist a
Bitcoin maximalist. And you know

496
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,840
what I'm this I think this is
apropos to what we're talking

497
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:23,040
about because what I mean is
that like, if I was having a

498
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,100
discussion with a big Bitcoin
maximalist said, you know, over

499
00:32:26,100 --> 00:32:31,200
a beer, and I think everything
we would we would talk about,

500
00:32:31,590 --> 00:32:36,570
would be like, yep, yep. Yep. I
agree. I agree. I agree. But

501
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:41,520
that when it's like, Are you are
you a Maxi? The reason I would

502
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:46,590
say no to that is because I
don't know the future. And I

503
00:32:46,590 --> 00:32:51,420
don't know that I tend to split
Bitcoin into two different

504
00:32:51,420 --> 00:32:56,340
things. And I lied and I like
the way that Sam and Todd were

505
00:32:56,340 --> 00:33:01,530
discussing it there because you
know, the you have Bitcoin as

506
00:33:01,530 --> 00:33:07,110
money and then you have Bitcoin
as a financial transport or a

507
00:33:07,110 --> 00:33:13,470
monetary transport layer. Yep.
And I see those things as really

508
00:33:13,470 --> 00:33:17,880
being being two different
things. So you have if if you

509
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:22,830
would say Okay, are you a
maximalist? I think most people

510
00:33:23,310 --> 00:33:29,490
come at Bitcoin maximalism from
the standpoint of a really

511
00:33:29,490 --> 00:33:35,610
strong desire or they see a need
for hard money they see the

512
00:33:35,610 --> 00:33:40,140
problems that we have with this
fiat money world, they see the

513
00:33:40,140 --> 00:33:43,320
pain that it causes the core
inflation yesterday was hot as

514
00:33:44,970 --> 00:33:48,810
hot as a firecracker in this
these things, people are really

515
00:33:48,810 --> 00:33:52,350
getting hurt financially with
the fiat money system that we

516
00:33:52,350 --> 00:33:58,230
have. And so, you know, I agree
with all of those things, but

517
00:33:58,380 --> 00:34:04,950
the the problem is like orange
pilling people into into finance

518
00:34:04,980 --> 00:34:08,700
you know, into a certain
financial thing. I think that

519
00:34:08,700 --> 00:34:14,190
that is not necessary in order
to have adoption of the Bitcoin

520
00:34:14,190 --> 00:34:18,690
as transportation is the Bitcoin
as a financial transport because

521
00:34:18,690 --> 00:34:24,480
that's what you have here it can
be I can have a system where and

522
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:31,440
we do where I can get paid in
Bitcoin using the Bitcoin stack?

523
00:34:32,370 --> 00:34:34,800
Are the lightning you know, the
lightning is transport and the

524
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:39,000
Bitcoin as the as the monetary
instrument. And then once I once

525
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,300
I'm paid, I can move that in and
out as as I will.

526
00:34:42,780 --> 00:34:46,440
Is this not exactly what Taro is
going to do? From lightning

527
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:50,250
labs? I think it's that's
exactly the point. Is you you

528
00:34:50,250 --> 00:34:56,520
can say, I want to send $5 to to
Adam. I want him to receive

529
00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:00,000
euros and it goes through broker
one then through the lightning

530
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,240
Network out through broker to
and then into your pocket.

531
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,690
That's That's my understanding
is that it is sort of like an

532
00:35:06,690 --> 00:35:09,450
onion, it encapsulates this
other asset. And then it goes,

533
00:35:09,450 --> 00:35:11,910
it goes in as one thing it pops
out is that same thing?

534
00:35:11,940 --> 00:35:16,740
Yep. So, yeah. So that would
that's, that's, yeah. And that's

535
00:35:16,740 --> 00:35:19,890
probably the version that will
have adoption most quickly. I,

536
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:24,330
you're absolutely right. But
just like, that's, well, you

537
00:35:24,330 --> 00:35:28,230
know, because our conversations,
but they become so conflated.

538
00:35:28,650 --> 00:35:30,870
What prompted it was John was
like, you know, we were talking

539
00:35:30,870 --> 00:35:34,170
about what was going to happen
in the future. And, okay, well,

540
00:35:34,170 --> 00:35:38,730
you know, what would happen? You
know, let's just say 2050. And

541
00:35:38,730 --> 00:35:42,000
it's a Bitcoin ecosystem, like,
how do you? How do you pay for

542
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,920
things? How do you pay for this
paper? And I was like, you know,

543
00:35:44,430 --> 00:35:46,800
I don't know. I mean, I just
don't know the answers to those

544
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:52,860
questions. And the thing is,
what what we do, what I can see

545
00:35:52,860 --> 00:35:58,020
happening, is that, absolutely,
there there's going to be the

546
00:35:58,020 --> 00:36:04,590
transport mechanism of Bitcoin
is, is already established as a

547
00:36:04,590 --> 00:36:07,680
fact of life. And we're, this is
going to be part of our future.

548
00:36:07,950 --> 00:36:12,210
All of us. There's going it's
it's too it's grown too fast, it

549
00:36:12,210 --> 00:36:19,200
gets too big. And to stop it,
the the Bitcoin as, as the hard

550
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:24,240
money, that in how that applies
to everybody's daily lives. And

551
00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:28,290
let's just say 2050 I'm not
saying it's not gonna happen.

552
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,140
I'm just saying that that's why
it's just much murkier, and I

553
00:36:31,140 --> 00:36:33,240
don't understand how that's
gonna look either.

554
00:36:33,390 --> 00:36:39,600
Oh, yeah, well, I'm like you I
am from the future. And here's

555
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:44,370
what I have to say about it.
Saying that all hell is gonna

556
00:36:44,370 --> 00:36:45,960
break loose and you're gonna
need a Bitcoin.

557
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,690
Every day, evidently, I am a big
one mask because I agree with

558
00:36:53,580 --> 00:36:56,130
that, like, you know, he asked
me is industry in question two

559
00:36:56,130 --> 00:37:06,930
is, is like, what other what
other cryptocurrencies are free

560
00:37:06,930 --> 00:37:11,220
of any sort of corporate control
in that type of thing. So, like,

561
00:37:11,220 --> 00:37:15,660
you know, Ethereum Solana, I
mean, all these

562
00:37:15,660 --> 00:37:18,330
cryptocurrencies, they're all
They're all like pre mined,

563
00:37:18,330 --> 00:37:22,980
corporate controlled the smoke
and mirrors? And he said, Do we

564
00:37:22,980 --> 00:37:26,250
know what which ones? Which ones
are not like that other than

565
00:37:26,250 --> 00:37:30,540
Bitcoin? You know, I can only
think of the only three I could

566
00:37:30,540 --> 00:37:35,460
think that I could Bitcoin,
obviously, Hive, and Athena. And

567
00:37:35,460 --> 00:37:39,750
I think that was an accident.
The Hive ended up without

568
00:37:39,750 --> 00:37:43,380
corporate control and being
decentralized, a Dao

569
00:37:43,410 --> 00:37:48,030
decentralized thing, just by
accident of history, from their

570
00:37:48,030 --> 00:37:52,320
fork split, or whatever that
happened, and then Mineiro those

571
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,080
are the only three I can think
of that don't have corporate

572
00:37:55,470 --> 00:37:56,400
corporate control

573
00:37:56,460 --> 00:38:01,440
days at podcasts, index.org
everybody or No, just a booster

574
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,980
gram booster gram to tell us how
wrong we are. Because, you know,

575
00:38:05,010 --> 00:38:05,940
you know, that's common.

576
00:38:07,230 --> 00:38:09,510
Remember, there's limits to how
much text you can put in a

577
00:38:09,510 --> 00:38:10,920
histogram second had to do
multiples.

578
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:16,020
So, you know, it's interesting,
because I found that what's

579
00:38:16,020 --> 00:38:19,230
really happening or what I, what
I've always wanted, and what I

580
00:38:19,230 --> 00:38:22,680
see is happening is much less
focused on the Bitcoin and its

581
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:27,270
value for value, the value for
value is the is the hope so when

582
00:38:27,270 --> 00:38:33,180
you have Bitcoin and you know 21
million and Fiat versus Bitcoin

583
00:38:33,180 --> 00:38:38,460
and hard money, etc, that's over
on this side over here, we've

584
00:38:38,460 --> 00:38:42,840
got the practical beside with
lightning mainly, but the value

585
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,590
for value where people are
starting to understand that

586
00:38:46,590 --> 00:38:49,650
there's a different way of
creating the market, that it

587
00:38:49,650 --> 00:38:53,850
doesn't have to be based on
paywall on access that you

588
00:38:53,850 --> 00:39:02,820
purchase. On on pricing that you
didn't have a say in. And so I

589
00:39:02,820 --> 00:39:07,740
forget who tweeted this out, but
this this is a value for value.

590
00:39:07,740 --> 00:39:15,030
2.0 podcaster, BTC, June and
BTG. June, this is the that puro

591
00:39:15,030 --> 00:39:18,540
signal I think is the title of
the podcast. I've just got to

592
00:39:18,540 --> 00:39:22,500
play this guy's opening because
he gets it totally based

593
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:34,110
a little bit differently. We do
think value for value.

594
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,680
Yeah, nice. Man.

595
00:39:38,010 --> 00:39:45,360
put a price tag you tell me what
this is worth to you, my

596
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:45,750
brother.

597
00:39:47,700 --> 00:39:52,380
And that's how we all play this
thing now. But this is a two way

598
00:39:52,380 --> 00:39:57,990
street. And I operate high level
on this value value economic

599
00:39:57,990 --> 00:40:09,450
model. To hear this system, we
will say powers that stands in

600
00:40:09,450 --> 00:40:16,770
our way. This is the
centralization. Power of

601
00:40:16,770 --> 00:40:28,380
decentralization is fear I mean,

602
00:40:30,090 --> 00:40:32,040
doesn't get much more beautiful
than this.

603
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,910
That's, that's, that's all in
that is all in.

604
00:40:35,940 --> 00:40:42,900
I love it, because it has this
weird mix of, you know 80s Like

605
00:40:42,900 --> 00:40:48,780
really bad as synth pop is, but
it also has this kind of Malcolm

606
00:40:48,780 --> 00:40:54,360
X Che Guevara. The revolution
will not be televised type vibe

607
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,900
to it. Exactly. This is
beautiful. I'd love it so much.

608
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:03,120
Let's do it. I love it. That's
the Yeah. See, that's that's

609
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:08,220
what you don't I guess. I guess
I get bogged down in the in the

610
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:15,300
in the debates and in that kind
of thing about about the Bitcoin

611
00:41:15,300 --> 00:41:20,280
stuff. And I think Bitcoin,
Bitcoin is important to me

612
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,850
personally. Finance, you know,
financially, I have my own

613
00:41:23,850 --> 00:41:27,540
financial things that I do with
it. But if I step outside of

614
00:41:27,540 --> 00:41:31,500
Dave and step out into, okay,
what does the industry need?

615
00:41:31,500 --> 00:41:37,590
What is at this moment in time?
What does what is a problem that

616
00:41:37,590 --> 00:41:42,570
needs solving within podcasting
and within media itself, that

617
00:41:42,930 --> 00:41:48,720
Dave says, The the eventual
currency in the way that it

618
00:41:48,720 --> 00:41:53,910
lands doesn't matter as much as
the ability for it to be

619
00:41:53,910 --> 00:41:58,020
transported, without, without
limits? Right, the

620
00:41:58,020 --> 00:42:01,860
transportation to me, is the
critical thing as this moment in

621
00:42:01,860 --> 00:42:05,880
time. The other part will, I
think, will resolve itself.

622
00:42:06,090 --> 00:42:09,630
So that was a couple of things
happening. That's important to

623
00:42:09,630 --> 00:42:13,620
see if we can have any influence
on it right out of the gate. So

624
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:19,590
with just purely the utility of
so what I mean, are we okay with

625
00:42:19,770 --> 00:42:22,080
leaving the Bitcoin conversation
where it is, and just continue

626
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:27,840
to talk about the utility of the
network of lightning lifting. So

627
00:42:28,350 --> 00:42:31,800
we've gotten to this point by
choosing this particular system,

628
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:36,930
where we have incredible
interoperability. And I mean,

629
00:42:37,140 --> 00:42:40,350
not just the technical
interoperability, but we've

630
00:42:40,350 --> 00:42:45,270
gotten it to a level where we
have a language, boost booster

631
00:42:45,270 --> 00:42:49,080
gram streaming payments,
everyone uses them universally,

632
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,560
no one's gone off and done
something else, eat right down

633
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:57,270
to confetti, which is try and
plant put that into your

634
00:42:57,270 --> 00:42:59,910
business plan. Oh, and by the
way, all these independent

635
00:42:59,910 --> 00:43:02,850
developers will all use
confetti, like know that you

636
00:43:02,850 --> 00:43:03,870
would, that would

637
00:43:03,870 --> 00:43:06,870
never happen as a bullet point
on your slide.

638
00:43:06,870 --> 00:43:10,200
Yeah, you know, so. So all these
beautiful things and it

639
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:14,850
interrupts were a breeze can can
immediately start using it.

640
00:43:15,450 --> 00:43:18,690
Fountain was able to build an
entire business on it. That was

641
00:43:18,690 --> 00:43:23,970
a lifestyle. I'm not an advisor.
And, and then Alby comes in, and

642
00:43:23,970 --> 00:43:26,670
they've got the wallets and they
do a hackathon. And they've got

643
00:43:26,670 --> 00:43:31,320
stats. And so I'm seeing these,
these, you know, this is, this

644
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:38,430
is a, like an NBA dream, you
know, a business degree.

645
00:43:39,870 --> 00:43:43,200
Students will be like, holy
crap, this is so amazing what is

646
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:48,540
happening. And then I see
something called Get mash, get

647
00:43:48,540 --> 00:43:52,140
mashed.com and I'm excited
because there must have been a

648
00:43:52,140 --> 00:43:57,840
tweet somewhere or something.
And, and right there on the page

649
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,170
that you get to the overview, it
has a boost button. I'm like,

650
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,500
Oh, this is cool. That is, you
know, they have some system from

651
00:44:04,500 --> 00:44:07,950
boost. I'm like, okay, and I
click it and it's like, oh, no,

652
00:44:07,950 --> 00:44:13,320
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you
can use this ended with another

653
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:17,400
lightning client. So it wasn't
it what these fuckers what

654
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:21,450
they've done unless it unless I
misunderstand it, is they've

655
00:44:21,450 --> 00:44:28,320
created a closed system where
you you pay 3% of all Satoshis

656
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:35,430
you earn up to $25,000, then you
pay 9% for the privilege of

657
00:44:35,430 --> 00:44:39,810
having, you know, they're using
their system, and I just don't

658
00:44:39,810 --> 00:44:44,580
understand it. I mean, if you're
creating a node or something

659
00:44:44,580 --> 00:44:48,480
that you know, where people can
receive payments, why don't you

660
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,370
let it so everything you're
gonna if you're going to use the

661
00:44:50,370 --> 00:44:55,350
term boost, why did why doesn't
it work with Alby? You know, why

662
00:44:55,350 --> 00:45:02,010
can't and Albie person is saying
well, threes? Yeah, Very odd. So

663
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,770
I just wanted to point that I
may be missing a completely but

664
00:45:04,770 --> 00:45:08,370
when I see a boost button, and I
hit it and it says Now you need

665
00:45:08,370 --> 00:45:09,960
to you need to get our wallet

666
00:45:13,139 --> 00:45:14,489
Yeah, that's lame.

667
00:45:15,570 --> 00:45:17,370
Consumer wallet Here we go.

668
00:45:19,289 --> 00:45:21,839
That's That's lame. Miska is
supposed to the whole this is

669
00:45:21,839 --> 00:45:25,049
supposed to be open with you
know, there's no there's no like

670
00:45:25,049 --> 00:45:28,259
trademark on any of this stuff
but bow there there can be.

671
00:45:29,009 --> 00:45:31,649
There can be shade, we can
throw, we can throw shade mark.

672
00:45:33,180 --> 00:45:36,570
Why anyway, so I just wanted to
point that out that we're we're

673
00:45:36,570 --> 00:45:43,560
in such a beautiful here boosts
Let me see. Okay, so here's what

674
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:48,570
I'm talking about. On the boost
page boosts its tips with just a

675
00:45:48,570 --> 00:45:49,230
tap

676
00:45:52,050 --> 00:45:54,720
booster scam. That's what net
Nez booster scan.

677
00:45:55,320 --> 00:46:00,330
I mean, seriously. Yeah, I don't
like that. Well, here. So

678
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:05,670
there's this boost button on
this page. I hit boost. Sign up

679
00:46:05,670 --> 00:46:16,530
with Google put me know now
pass. Anyway, so just you know,

680
00:46:17,190 --> 00:46:20,430
you know what, where we are
right now? I never I never would

681
00:46:20,430 --> 00:46:22,890
have thought we would have
gotten this far. I mean, not

682
00:46:22,890 --> 00:46:26,370
actually I did. But I didn't
have a timeline. I could see it.

683
00:46:27,090 --> 00:46:30,270
And I could see where we needed
to be and and just the

684
00:46:30,270 --> 00:46:34,170
acceleration of development
within the hosting companies.

685
00:46:34,980 --> 00:46:40,320
The accelerated development the
I would say the depth of

686
00:46:40,500 --> 00:46:43,920
thinking now that's going on
about many of the namespace

687
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:48,540
elements and in how we can be
inclusive all different kinds of

688
00:46:48,540 --> 00:46:53,010
business models and ideas. All
that's left now is Libsyn.

689
00:46:53,340 --> 00:46:57,630
integrator die, bitches. Lipson,
what did you do? What is wrong

690
00:46:57,630 --> 00:46:58,320
with you?

691
00:46:59,460 --> 00:47:05,190
Like, just just pod ping, just
start with POD ping. Give us a

692
00:47:05,190 --> 00:47:10,200
get request if I have one. If I
have one thing that I want to

693
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:15,120
beg Lipson to please do. And
where's Lipson headquartered at?

694
00:47:15,150 --> 00:47:17,550
Where are they in like the
Pacific Northwest somewhere?

695
00:47:17,550 --> 00:47:17,730
Aren't

696
00:47:17,730 --> 00:47:20,760
they Chinese? Oh, now is a
Beijing ethics? I

697
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:24,390
don't think so. I don't think
so. I think they I think those

698
00:47:24,390 --> 00:47:25,410
guys they get they get

699
00:47:25,740 --> 00:47:27,840
really got out, they got out of
that right.

700
00:47:28,860 --> 00:47:32,850
Wherever they wherever you are,
wherever you are Lipson, I will

701
00:47:32,850 --> 00:47:36,120
drive to your headquarters and
show you how to send a GET

702
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:40,290
request to the web server,
because that's all you have to

703
00:47:40,290 --> 00:47:44,190
do. And you don't have webs, you
don't have anything that will

704
00:47:44,190 --> 00:47:47,400
help please just do pod paying
for the love of God.

705
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:50,550
See where they're located.

706
00:47:51,780 --> 00:47:55,530
I will drive there, I will drive
there and meet personally with

707
00:47:55,830 --> 00:47:59,520
everybody named Rob, who works
there and can then end and

708
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:00,990
everybody named Dave That was
their

709
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,890
only see a boot. I mean, look at
a boot. The

710
00:48:04,890 --> 00:48:08,190
boot doesn't say where they know
they're Canadian. I'm Canadian.

711
00:48:08,220 --> 00:48:14,130
No, then actually, that's not
they got a long history here.

712
00:48:14,130 --> 00:48:19,410
But I think the reason why it
just kind of hit me the other

713
00:48:19,410 --> 00:48:24,120
day as I was, as I was, I was
listening to it, the reason why

714
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,550
they're a little bit of an
outsider is they may have

715
00:48:26,550 --> 00:48:30,450
started their business model
much more as a podcast network,

716
00:48:30,450 --> 00:48:33,510
kind of like we're gonna, you
know, like the content is not

717
00:48:33,510 --> 00:48:39,240
ours, but like they were closer
to it maybe in the beginning. So

718
00:48:39,240 --> 00:48:42,780
there's some really big shows,
you know, Marc Maron, Rogen, and

719
00:48:42,810 --> 00:48:47,460
a lot of really big shows that
were on there. I don't know I'm

720
00:48:47,460 --> 00:48:51,510
not I'm not quite sure what
maybe what it just feels like

721
00:48:51,510 --> 00:48:54,780
they come from a different
angle, which is fine, but come

722
00:48:54,780 --> 00:48:58,110
on, man. I mean, you can also
look at like your competition is

723
00:48:58,290 --> 00:49:00,690
he's now a solid 12 months ahead
of you.

724
00:49:01,290 --> 00:49:05,190
Yeah, they're eating your lunch.
And this, this has to you don't

725
00:49:05,190 --> 00:49:08,820
have to you don't have to start
taking Bitcoin. This is this is

726
00:49:08,820 --> 00:49:12,180
not you don't have to do that.
You can, you can start by easing

727
00:49:12,180 --> 00:49:14,580
your by putting your toes in the
kiddie pool and throw in some

728
00:49:14,610 --> 00:49:18,420
some pod things. Because it's
something you need anyway, the

729
00:49:18,420 --> 00:49:21,090
fact that you don't have an
early warning system for feed

730
00:49:21,090 --> 00:49:26,310
changes. Like they there's
nothing there. And that really

731
00:49:26,430 --> 00:49:31,800
makes things difficult. And so
like do that first and realize

732
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,710
that it's great, then we'll
convince you to do all the other

733
00:49:34,710 --> 00:49:35,040
stuff.

734
00:49:37,650 --> 00:49:41,430
Exactly. It's that simple. And
and as you you might have heard

735
00:49:41,460 --> 00:49:46,110
we're happy to come and talk to
your team. No charge. Well, if

736
00:49:46,110 --> 00:49:49,290
it's on Zoom don't make me fly
somewhere. Yeah,

737
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:53,490
I will drive there. Don't Don't
Don't tell me I will drive I

738
00:49:53,490 --> 00:49:58,950
would rather do we want to do we
want to talk I mean we got two

739
00:49:58,950 --> 00:50:03,030
ways we can go here we can Talk
namespace face six, because we

740
00:50:03,030 --> 00:50:06,810
still got stuff to talk about
from last week. Or we can talk,

741
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:11,490
pod ping live reasons in the
heart and the hive hide for hard

742
00:50:11,490 --> 00:50:13,560
fork. H F 26.

743
00:50:14,190 --> 00:50:20,400
What I have on my list is I had
to think about the podcast

744
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:24,660
events tag, which is part of V
six, I believe, or is it is just

745
00:50:24,660 --> 00:50:25,410
a proposal?

746
00:50:26,070 --> 00:50:28,320
PC? Phase six, a six. Yeah,
phase six.

747
00:50:30,240 --> 00:50:33,900
So the events and I was like,
wow, there's this is really an

748
00:50:33,900 --> 00:50:38,730
interesting, an interesting tag,
and it opens up so much

749
00:50:38,730 --> 00:50:41,580
possibilities. And we left the
last show with your question,

750
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:46,020
which was, Is this is this if
we're talking about a message

751
00:50:46,020 --> 00:50:48,930
bus? Is this not just something
that should go through pod ping?

752
00:50:49,950 --> 00:50:52,920
Which, which threw me for a
loop? I'm like, Oh, this is it?

753
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:56,730
That's a? That's a good
question. And I was just

754
00:50:56,730 --> 00:50:59,430
thinking about different use
cases. And you know, you we

755
00:50:59,430 --> 00:51:04,080
probably should explain what
events is again. But I think

756
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:10,080
that it to me, it feels like pod
ping can be a method of the

757
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:17,100
events tag for certain types of
data. But I think there's other

758
00:51:17,100 --> 00:51:20,340
things that you just wouldn't
want on the open blockchain

759
00:51:20,340 --> 00:51:27,060
regardless. Which is kind of the
whole point of it being a client

760
00:51:27,060 --> 00:51:31,170
to trusted party server that is
sending this data, which is the

761
00:51:31,170 --> 00:51:33,360
way I read the spec or the read
the proposal.

762
00:51:34,830 --> 00:51:37,710
Do you want me to simply give a
brief overview. So the advanced

763
00:51:37,710 --> 00:51:46,980
tag is a way for you, you as the
podcasting platform. So I am,

764
00:51:47,220 --> 00:51:54,960
let's just say that I am Lipson
and I'm going to open up an API

765
00:51:54,960 --> 00:52:02,280
endpoint, an open API receiver
that expects to receive event

766
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:06,690
messages about things revolve
relating to podcasts that I

767
00:52:06,690 --> 00:52:11,670
publish. And I'm going to put
that the URL for that API

768
00:52:11,670 --> 00:52:15,390
endpoint, I'm going to put it in
a tag inside all of my feeds

769
00:52:15,390 --> 00:52:19,560
called podcast events. There's
going to be podcast colon

770
00:52:19,590 --> 00:52:21,690
events, your set, you

771
00:52:21,690 --> 00:52:23,400
should call on a seriously bro.

772
00:52:24,090 --> 00:52:30,180
On purpose purposes, I want to
make the British podcast colon

773
00:52:30,750 --> 00:52:35,070
in the URL and then a URL
attribute equals and then the

774
00:52:35,070 --> 00:52:40,830
URL and then the URL to the open
endpoint. And then that exists

775
00:52:40,830 --> 00:52:46,110
in the feed in apps, platforms,
anybody who ingests the feed for

776
00:52:46,110 --> 00:52:50,430
whatever reasons they have now
sees that, okay, if I have

777
00:52:50,430 --> 00:52:54,120
certain events that I want to
let the publisher the podcast

778
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:57,570
publishing platform know about,
here's where I should send them.

779
00:52:58,140 --> 00:53:02,820
Right. And so that's that's the
basic idea. And those events are

780
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:07,020
the things that we discussed
last week, they could be things

781
00:53:07,020 --> 00:53:11,580
like listens, or somebody just
started listening, or somebody

782
00:53:11,580 --> 00:53:15,840
subscribed to the show, or
somebody or your artwork is

783
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:20,790
broken, or the XML won't parse,
or like you could be lots of the

784
00:53:20,790 --> 00:53:24,390
Enlow your idea was or a survey
it just started using the show

785
00:53:24,390 --> 00:53:24,750
or whatever.

786
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:29,310
Or worse a survey, can you do
that too, with an event? Like an

787
00:53:29,310 --> 00:53:30,630
app based survey?

788
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:35,220
I think I think once the events,
once the endpoint is in place,

789
00:53:35,220 --> 00:53:36,480
you really could do anything.

790
00:53:37,110 --> 00:53:40,200
Yeah. And of course, it doesn't
have to be the hosting company.

791
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:43,170
It can be a third party, you can
you can decide, well, I want to

792
00:53:43,170 --> 00:53:47,760
fill out this field with this
with the OP three gang, who were

793
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:51,420
going to parse it and give me
nothing, because that's what I

794
00:53:51,420 --> 00:53:56,490
get from you JS nothing. Oh,
well, once in a while I did. I

795
00:53:56,490 --> 00:54:00,720
did like the pretty graph. No,
that was Gene J. Bridgeland.

796
00:54:00,720 --> 00:54:04,890
Cridland did a pretty graph this
morning. I'm like, 75, no agenda

797
00:54:04,890 --> 00:54:07,920
75% of Opie three data?

798
00:54:08,549 --> 00:54:09,539
No, it was 90.

799
00:54:09,839 --> 00:54:11,579
Was it 90? Yeah.

800
00:54:13,500 --> 00:54:16,770
It was 90 According to the
double asterisk at the bottom of

801
00:54:16,770 --> 00:54:21,870
the page. So yeah, I think
you're I think that your

802
00:54:21,870 --> 00:54:27,900
instinct is is is right, because
I discussed this with Alex

803
00:54:27,900 --> 00:54:34,080
offline. And we were like, you
know, and he in he had some good

804
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:34,440
points,

805
00:54:34,470 --> 00:54:37,890
valid weights, the podcasting
2.0 consultant. Yes, right.

806
00:54:37,890 --> 00:54:38,640
Yeah. And if people

807
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:42,690
don't know people don't know
Alex makes the makes his money

808
00:54:42,690 --> 00:54:47,550
by by fixing people's broken
stuff. Basically, he goes into

809
00:54:47,940 --> 00:54:51,030
charges a lot for it. The AC
goes into a system and he's

810
00:54:51,030 --> 00:54:55,920
like, this is a disaster. Here's
how you fix all this crap. And

811
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:59,220
they any wires at all makes
makes them use standardized

812
00:54:59,220 --> 00:55:03,300
protocols. Build schemas. They
basically makes all their stuff

813
00:55:03,300 --> 00:55:06,720
work like it's supposed to. And
so when it comes to protocols

814
00:55:06,720 --> 00:55:10,950
and transport, he's a master at
it. So I talked to him about it

815
00:55:10,950 --> 00:55:13,260
a little bit. And he's like,
Yeah, you know, this probably

816
00:55:13,260 --> 00:55:17,040
isn't is not appropriate for pod
paying. It sounds like you said

817
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:20,820
some of it could be. Because,
you know, some of it could be

818
00:55:20,850 --> 00:55:23,580
necessarily like public is fine,
but there's a lot of it, there's

819
00:55:23,580 --> 00:55:26,610
probably just, you're really
wasting the blockchain to make

820
00:55:26,610 --> 00:55:30,330
that stuff public. And it
probably miss some of the stuff

821
00:55:30,330 --> 00:55:34,830
people may not even want to be
public. So I think nothing. I

822
00:55:34,830 --> 00:55:38,430
think it's probably the right
way to go to have that be a just

823
00:55:38,430 --> 00:55:41,760
a back end API and not something
on the blockchain. Okay. I think

824
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:42,390
you're right. Yeah.

825
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:46,770
And I have we did I read
somewhere that someone had, Oh,

826
00:55:46,770 --> 00:55:54,120
was it the WordPress plugin that
was going to work with web sub

827
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:58,620
so the cross app comments could
kind of be bootstrapped again,

828
00:55:58,650 --> 00:56:00,120
that I read something about
that?

829
00:56:00,330 --> 00:56:03,720
That's a WordPress plugin for
activity pub. Yeah. Activity is

830
00:56:03,720 --> 00:56:06,840
supposed to Yeah, I suppose.
Well, it already works. But it

831
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:10,410
was supposed to enable one of
their new feature releases was

832
00:56:10,410 --> 00:56:15,420
going to enable posting back and
in in Nagi, I haven't heard

833
00:56:15,420 --> 00:56:16,770
anything from it. I don't know.

834
00:56:17,130 --> 00:56:21,000
It hasn't been released. I don't
know. Why don't you know

835
00:56:21,210 --> 00:56:29,880
what's wrong? Because there's
things I don't know. Alert? So

836
00:56:30,390 --> 00:56:34,020
the thing that happened this
week, that really was kind of

837
00:56:34,020 --> 00:56:38,010
like a big deal was, Todd was
trying to send out a live pod

838
00:56:38,010 --> 00:56:40,230
paying for Geek news,

839
00:56:40,260 --> 00:56:42,780
right? When he went live, and it
didn't work. I didn't get it

840
00:56:42,780 --> 00:56:43,110
now.

841
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:47,940
Yeah. And we're trying to figure
out why. But it was thinking has

842
00:56:47,940 --> 00:56:52,590
something to do with sovereign
feeds. But we're not real sure.

843
00:56:52,590 --> 00:56:57,660
Because the sovereign feeds the
wind when he posted his command

844
00:56:57,660 --> 00:57:00,960
line, it looked right. So I
don't know. But anyway, the

845
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,770
bigger issue was the hard fork
with hive and Brian was running

846
00:57:04,770 --> 00:57:07,050
around competition was head cut
off trying to get everything

847
00:57:07,050 --> 00:57:14,490
situated. And we got he was, he
sent me some stuff to upgrade on

848
00:57:14,490 --> 00:57:19,440
the pod bean dot cloud servers,
in a data one of the servers to

849
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,450
make sure that things were going
to work the way he thought they

850
00:57:21,450 --> 00:57:25,500
would, and everything was fine.
And I don't, I don't fully

851
00:57:25,500 --> 00:57:27,990
understand exactly what happened
with hive. But that's that's his

852
00:57:27,990 --> 00:57:34,020
job. And so we really need to
move forward with getting live

853
00:57:34,020 --> 00:57:38,460
reason codes and pod bean dot
cloud, that can be used, because

854
00:57:38,460 --> 00:57:42,060
it really needs to tie it
shouldn't have to be relying on

855
00:57:42,780 --> 00:57:45,930
them. It's fine to rely on its
own third party platform, that's

856
00:57:45,930 --> 00:57:49,860
fine. But they've already
blueberry in and PowerPress

857
00:57:49,860 --> 00:57:52,560
already know how to speak pod
paying to popping out clouds.

858
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:55,350
And that that really should be
where the solution is there for

859
00:57:55,350 --> 00:57:58,920
those guys. And that we need to
do that. So me and Alex are

860
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:03,660
working on. On moving forward
with that,

861
00:58:04,230 --> 00:58:09,720
if I understand, Todd was, was
using sovereign feeds with the

862
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:12,960
pod paying there to hit the hit
the pod being served, and it

863
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:14,490
just didn't work for some
reason.

864
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:21,360
Yeah, I think I think Steven B
has a system in there with the

865
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:25,620
Google Cloud. Why they call
their things a Google Cloud

866
00:58:25,620 --> 00:58:29,250
Platform. I don't know what the
name of their cloud Google Cloud

867
00:58:29,610 --> 00:58:33,540
as your now that's Microsoft.
Oh, Google.

868
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,270
Beelzebub is that?

869
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:44,640
Satan? Yes. So he, he's got a
thing on there. It's like a

870
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:48,630
lambda function type deal where
it responds to an event. And it

871
00:58:48,630 --> 00:58:52,080
spins up since the pod thing and
then spins down. Yeah.

872
00:58:52,110 --> 00:58:55,500
Okay. Because it has been taking
longer. So I understand why. And

873
00:58:55,500 --> 00:58:59,640
you also have to do that fun
little math equation. Yeah,

874
00:58:59,670 --> 00:59:02,040
right. Which makes you feel
really stupid when you get it

875
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:04,770
wrong. Like, I can't believe I
got through adding three numbers

876
00:59:04,770 --> 00:59:05,730
together. I got it wrong.

877
00:59:07,230 --> 00:59:11,100
Speaking of did we get the did
you get the notification about

878
00:59:11,100 --> 00:59:13,890
love? Oh, yeah, yeah, I got it.
I got to scroll back. Yeah,

879
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:18,930
yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No question
myself now. Okay. Yeah. Good.

880
00:59:19,050 --> 00:59:23,820
Yeah. GCP Google Cloud Platform.
Yeah. So I think there's

881
00:59:23,820 --> 00:59:27,780
something there. That's wrong.
But so the the way that the pod

882
00:59:27,780 --> 00:59:31,620
Pink Dot cloud is going to is
the way it's built. Now. Let's

883
00:59:31,620 --> 00:59:36,240
talk about that for a second. So
the way it's built now is there

884
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:40,560
are five pod ping dot cloud
servers. Each one of these has

885
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:44,760
its own hive posting key
attached to the hive writer

886
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:48,720
tool, which is a tool which is
built in Python. So the hive

887
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:52,800
rider is what actually takes the
incoming data and writes it to

888
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,350
the hive blockchain so that we
can all see pod pings and have

889
00:59:55,350 --> 01:00:02,730
fun. The Hive the hive run Lidar
is running in a Docker

890
01:00:02,730 --> 01:00:06,000
container. And it's just
basically a Z MQ socket. That is

891
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:12,480
way this sitting there listening
all the time. The the web, the

892
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:16,410
front end of piping dot cloud
that accepts the GET requests

893
01:00:16,410 --> 01:00:20,160
with the free feed URLs. And
then that's a separate process.

894
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:26,580
And that's a rust binary. That
also speaks Z MQ over to the

895
01:00:26,580 --> 01:00:30,360
hive writer. So the rust front
end is accepting these feed

896
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:35,670
URLs, saving them in a in a in a
static, saving MSSQL database.

897
01:00:35,970 --> 01:00:38,850
And then once every few seconds,
it's sending them sending them

898
01:00:38,850 --> 01:00:42,030
in batches over to the hive
writer, which accepts them and

899
01:00:42,030 --> 01:00:50,370
writes them to the hive
blockchain. So there's more

900
01:00:50,430 --> 01:00:58,530
there. Now, so that's fine,
except that all it does now that

901
01:00:58,530 --> 01:01:02,640
that socket, that connection
between the front end and the

902
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:07,980
hive writer, that thing only
right now is, is is passing feed

903
01:01:07,980 --> 01:01:12,360
URLs. It's just a feed URL and a
new and a newline. Character

904
01:01:12,390 --> 01:01:15,060
feed new feature of video, he
doesn't know how to speak

905
01:01:15,060 --> 01:01:19,410
anything else. So with when when
you have live reason codes?

906
01:01:20,010 --> 01:01:22,380
That's not enough. I mean, like
you can't you don't know if the

907
01:01:22,380 --> 01:01:27,030
feed just updated. Or Or is it
updated? Plus is live.

908
01:01:27,780 --> 01:01:32,130
Okay. Yeah, that has that has to
be known to the hive writer.

909
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:35,400
Yeah, the hive writer has to
somehow be informed that this is

910
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:39,150
not just a feed update. This is
a feed update because of live,

911
01:01:39,150 --> 01:01:42,750
right. So there's extra, there's
an extra bit of data. And

912
01:01:42,750 --> 01:01:47,460
there's also medium codes in
there as well. All right. So we

913
01:01:47,460 --> 01:01:51,540
need a schema, we need a
protocol. So now this is the MQ

914
01:01:51,540 --> 01:01:56,580
socket needs to not just pass
feed URLs, it now needs to pass

915
01:01:56,940 --> 01:01:58,290
a data structure.

916
01:01:59,250 --> 01:02:01,440
Sounds like a job for JSON.

917
01:02:02,250 --> 01:02:11,100
Oh, but it's not JSON. So JSON.
JSON is fine. JSON is a fine

918
01:02:11,790 --> 01:02:12,540
data structure. It's

919
01:02:12,540 --> 01:02:16,230
very fine girl, but not for us.
She's not marriage material.

920
01:02:16,500 --> 01:02:23,790
No, by Felicia. It is gasm JSON
has some problems. So the typing

921
01:02:23,790 --> 01:02:28,680
in there can be unclear. So JSON
just thinks of numbers. It just

922
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:32,460
has numbers. It doesn't. You
can't say okay, this number is

923
01:02:32,460 --> 01:02:36,870
an unsigned integer. Or a 32 bit
integer or 64 bit unsigned

924
01:02:36,870 --> 01:02:40,800
integer you it doesn't it's just
ridiculous. And it's completely

925
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:46,740
useless garbage. No sense. In
It's fat, you have to you have

926
01:02:46,740 --> 01:02:48,480
to DC realize you're really

927
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:51,630
shaming this girl. I mean, come
on. This is good. Well, a little

928
01:02:51,630 --> 01:02:52,260
out there.

929
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:55,590
Her name's JSON. That's kind of
stupid to begin with.

930
01:02:56,850 --> 01:03:00,300
Right. So what So what are you
what is the proposal JSON is not

931
01:03:00,300 --> 01:03:00,630
it?

932
01:03:01,049 --> 01:03:04,889
Yeah. So we're going to use a
thing called Captain proto,

933
01:03:05,879 --> 01:03:09,749
which is Captain proto. Yeah,
Captain.

934
01:03:10,230 --> 01:03:11,850
Oh, Captain Captain proto,

935
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:18,390
Captain. Captain proto. It's
evolution of the protobuf

936
01:03:18,420 --> 01:03:22,170
protocol, which originated at
Google. And that's what GRP

937
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:25,710
protobuf is what G RPC uses. If
you interface with lnd through

938
01:03:25,710 --> 01:03:31,110
the G RPC API. It's using it's
using protobuf and cap cam.

939
01:03:31,110 --> 01:03:35,820
Proto is a is an evolution of
protobuf. So it uses a but it's

940
01:03:36,090 --> 01:03:40,950
it's a binary format that has
strong typing in all this stuff.

941
01:03:40,950 --> 01:03:45,120
And so what you do is you pre
compile, you can you can pre

942
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:49,530
compile your, your protocol
definitions, your schema and say

943
01:03:49,530 --> 01:03:52,470
here's what a message is
supposed to look like. It's

944
01:03:52,470 --> 01:03:56,610
supposed to have this string is
supposed to have a string here

945
01:03:56,610 --> 01:03:59,070
and its name is this it's
supposed to have a number here.

946
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:00,450
And it's a year so.

947
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:03,990
So it's like JSON except it's
binary.

948
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:07,380
Yes, it's binary and it's
precompiled into all the

949
01:04:07,380 --> 01:04:08,100
different language.

950
01:04:08,460 --> 01:04:13,200
It's like Protocol Buffers but
faster. It's 100% I'm reading

951
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,450
from the page by the way this
introduction

952
01:04:18,990 --> 01:04:21,900
I thought I was really good at
explaining this crap.

953
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,990
You are good you are good but I
was reading along with their

954
01:04:24,990 --> 01:04:28,500
introduction because I was like
Captain ProDOS like Captain

955
01:04:28,500 --> 01:04:30,960
Crunch and yeah, that's their
logo is like the Captain Crunch

956
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:34,890
logo. I already like I already
like this. Yeah, okay, so that

957
01:04:35,189 --> 01:04:39,149
so they so it'll be it'll be
it'll be a binary interface on

958
01:04:39,149 --> 01:04:42,779
strong typing and the big
benefit is there one of the big

959
01:04:42,779 --> 01:04:47,729
benefits other than just
conformity to a standard is

960
01:04:47,759 --> 01:04:51,599
speed so it's very fast Yeah,
speed that's very, very fast. So

961
01:04:51,599 --> 01:04:54,359
that's what that's what we're
doing now. I'm I'm

962
01:04:55,049 --> 01:04:58,379
infinity times faster than
Protocol Buffers is claimed

963
01:04:58,379 --> 01:04:58,679
here.

964
01:04:59,250 --> 01:05:04,560
So if heard of I've been living
in Captain proto documentation

965
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:06,330
world for a couple of days
trying to get my head on

966
01:05:06,330 --> 01:05:10,020
straight. Okay, we're getting
getting ready to fire this thing

967
01:05:10,020 --> 01:05:14,010
up and go get it because once we
have that in so here, here's the

968
01:05:14,010 --> 01:05:20,190
idea once you have the captain
proto schema written then and

969
01:05:20,190 --> 01:05:24,330
it's established and functional,
then when we add new things in

970
01:05:24,330 --> 01:05:27,030
the future is just going to be
as simple as a schema change.

971
01:05:27,030 --> 01:05:30,570
You just add the thing recompile
boom done. You don't know more

972
01:05:30,570 --> 01:05:31,440
reorg Right,

973
01:05:31,470 --> 01:05:34,470
right, right. Right. That's so
thinking forward.

974
01:05:34,949 --> 01:05:37,769
Yes, for sure. For sure. That's
what it is. That's what happens

975
01:05:37,769 --> 01:05:40,259
when you get a consultant yeah
knows what they're doing

976
01:05:40,290 --> 01:05:44,010
fancy ask consultant and they're
very nice, shall we? Say? I'm

977
01:05:44,010 --> 01:05:46,350
gonna be a little careful of
your time today because it is

978
01:05:46,350 --> 01:05:51,630
tax second Tax Day coming up so
you need to go on time.

979
01:05:52,650 --> 01:05:55,590
If you people here I'm sure we
can take some people Yeah, boost

980
01:05:55,620 --> 01:05:58,530
boost boost just getting in the
in the hang there getting get

981
01:05:58,530 --> 01:06:02,730
the man into the show. He knows
that we love him. We've had a

982
01:06:02,730 --> 01:06:07,440
number of what happened. I did I
lose my job. I stopped hearing

983
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:11,760
my my helipad. Go Well, we've
had a number of live boosts for

984
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:16,470
the live show. Just two minutes
ago 50,000 SATs from meet us

985
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:20,970
Thank you. In the newest episode
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01:06:20,970 --> 01:06:23,910
offered a split in the value
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01:06:23,910 --> 01:06:27,180
onboard the stories author
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win. Nice Absolutely. net net
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01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:40,890
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to 17,760 SATs big freedom boost
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991
01:06:46,050 --> 01:06:52,230
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be by booster gram Paste, Paste
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for the for the tinder of
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what lifts is that what event is
events as

995
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for for the Tinder?

996
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I guess so. Lovingly, my homie
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998
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beautiful moments love this
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999
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It's too cool. That's the lit
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01:07:27,510 --> 01:07:32,940
have a short row of ducks from
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01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:43,020
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1002
01:07:43,020 --> 01:07:46,080
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1005
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wasn't cats the musical you were
playing got my tumor hoodie on

1006
01:07:59,970 --> 01:08:03,900
account of the of the snow this
morning of the snow okay.

1007
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:06,660
Yeah, we were seeing Oh yeah,
Alex said that it's snowing in

1008
01:08:06,660 --> 01:08:07,290
Wisconsin.

1009
01:08:07,500 --> 01:08:08,850
Oh my goodness.

1010
01:08:08,879 --> 01:08:09,659
No already.

1011
01:08:10,379 --> 01:08:18,149
Todd Cochran. Oh man, look at
you go Todd did he boost 100,420

1012
01:08:19,979 --> 01:08:26,099
Oh, message heard chef spent two
to three hours this week with

1013
01:08:26,099 --> 01:08:28,889
various team members here at
blueberry strategizing how to

1014
01:08:28,889 --> 01:08:32,699
transform the tech of podcasting
2.0 into language and strategies

1015
01:08:32,699 --> 01:08:36,359
a podcaster will understand it's
been fun and challenging at the

1016
01:08:36,359 --> 01:08:39,659
same time good times for sure.
keep innovating we'll figure out

1017
01:08:39,659 --> 01:08:47,189
how to sell it to the masses.
Man value for value value number

1018
01:08:47,189 --> 01:08:52,109
four value dot info may be of
some help. There's some some

1019
01:08:52,109 --> 01:08:59,969
writing in there you can lift
and that I think this one see

1020
01:08:59,969 --> 01:09:03,119
Lyceum this may be on your list.
So I'll just read this and see

1021
01:09:03,119 --> 01:09:07,649
if it crosses over. Rush boost
to 112 Dave Thanks for telling

1022
01:09:07,649 --> 01:09:10,499
me about anytime player. I like
the friendly competition between

1023
01:09:10,499 --> 01:09:13,559
the developers of new
applications. Fountain I like

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for streaming SATs and earning
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01:09:16,229 --> 01:09:20,609
value for value podcast, podcast
guru for its speed and clean UX

1026
01:09:20,609 --> 01:09:24,629
pod verse for the live item tag
etc. That's Martin Linda's cog

1027
01:09:25,229 --> 01:09:29,099
with his 2112 Thank you very
much Martin. Do we shall we roll

1028
01:09:29,099 --> 01:09:32,729
right through a while you grab
your notes this is a value for

1029
01:09:32,729 --> 01:09:37,439
value podcast ground zero for
the the streaming SATs and the

1030
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:41,849
booster grams. If you'd like to
send us some on chain or I keep

1031
01:09:41,849 --> 01:09:45,569
mentioning it not like y'all
will ever do it. But you can go

1032
01:09:45,569 --> 01:09:51,089
to the podcast index.org Scroll
down to the bottom. Now we do

1033
01:09:51,089 --> 01:09:55,829
have the big red donate button
there for your Fiat fun coupons

1034
01:09:55,829 --> 01:09:59,009
through Pay Pal. It still works.
So feel free to use that. A

1035
01:09:59,009 --> 01:10:01,649
tally coin whatever And why did
our tally coin go away?

1036
01:10:02,580 --> 01:10:06,660
It goes, it comes and goes.
Like, yeah, it has a mind of its

1037
01:10:08,309 --> 01:10:10,679
I was like, well, that's no
good.

1038
01:10:10,919 --> 01:10:14,129
Let me reset my refresh the page
is it's something new with tally

1039
01:10:14,129 --> 01:10:14,459
coin.

1040
01:10:14,669 --> 01:10:18,419
We haven't received anything
through tally coin since August

1041
01:10:18,419 --> 01:10:22,439
26. But it's still there. We
should probably figure out why

1042
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:23,639
that are that

1043
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:25,890
so I'm not gonna fully blame
tally coin, because you know, we

1044
01:10:25,890 --> 01:10:29,250
do have the problem where once
in a once in a while, the whole

1045
01:10:29,250 --> 01:10:31,920
website just won't load because
it goes widescreen on you. So

1046
01:10:32,039 --> 01:10:35,339
that was because we're loading
some weird JavaScript in the in

1047
01:10:35,339 --> 01:10:36,479
the podcast box,

1048
01:10:36,869 --> 01:10:40,589
but we're gonna get hacked one
day, it's just it's all gonna

1049
01:10:40,589 --> 01:10:41,399
come to the website.

1050
01:10:41,430 --> 01:10:42,900
I love your certainty.

1051
01:10:43,740 --> 01:10:44,940
It's gonna happen. Yes.

1052
01:10:45,540 --> 01:10:49,440
But you know, just to show that
we were very reliant on PayPal,

1053
01:10:49,980 --> 01:10:54,060
that has moved very quickly. Now
our big donors are big monthlies

1054
01:10:54,060 --> 01:10:57,480
are still coming in through
PayPal, that's fine. But we know

1055
01:10:57,480 --> 01:11:00,030
that it will also work through
our through the through the

1056
01:11:00,030 --> 01:11:04,500
booster grams. It's all good. We
just appreciate everyone.

1057
01:11:04,530 --> 01:11:07,770
Everyone supporting the show
supporting the project and

1058
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:08,790
keeping us alive.

1059
01:11:09,630 --> 01:11:13,620
Well, Todd, and the team from
blueberry. They followed it up

1060
01:11:13,620 --> 01:11:17,850
with a paper with $150 Nice and
Yeah. And they said Go

1061
01:11:17,850 --> 01:11:20,430
podcasting for the blueberry
podcasting team. I think they

1062
01:11:20,430 --> 01:11:25,470
got to play on the Impala

1063
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:29,940
will be pretty big. Thank you,
team.

1064
01:11:30,480 --> 01:11:33,870
Yes, thank you, blueberry team
and Mike Dell, the Senior Vice

1065
01:11:33,870 --> 01:11:36,570
President of podcasting 2.0
operations at blueberry.

1066
01:11:37,650 --> 01:11:39,960
Does he have a business card
with I'd love to have a copy of

1067
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:40,740
that business card.

1068
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:45,030
Yeah, I want a screenshot of
that. Jennifer never never

1069
01:11:45,030 --> 01:11:49,200
ready. I'm gonna say that
please, Jennifer. correct my

1070
01:11:49,230 --> 01:11:52,680
pronunciation rename if it says
roll never read are never ready.

1071
01:11:53,790 --> 01:11:57,120
Jennifer says $15 And she said,
Adam and Dave, thanks for

1072
01:11:57,150 --> 01:12:00,030
breathing new life into
podcasting. This is a small

1073
01:12:00,030 --> 01:12:04,410
token of my appreciation. Why
$15 To commemorate the 15th

1074
01:12:04,410 --> 01:12:10,590
annual note national podcast
post month aka nap pod Pomo.

1075
01:12:10,860 --> 01:12:15,480
Pronounced nap pod Pomo which is
a 30 day podcasting challenge

1076
01:12:15,480 --> 01:12:21,030
held every November 1 to the
30th www dot Knapheide pomo.org

1077
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:23,970
Cheers e podcaster. Oh, thank
you Jennifer. Thank

1078
01:12:23,970 --> 01:12:26,490
you very much. Give me a little
boost just give you a boost for

1079
01:12:26,490 --> 01:12:28,650
that I'm looking at let me see
to hit she has a website

1080
01:12:28,650 --> 01:12:33,270
Jennifer Navarette. All right.
Thank you Jana never is never

1081
01:12:33,780 --> 01:12:38,850
that's what I'm saying. She is
Podcast Producer of virtual

1082
01:12:38,850 --> 01:12:41,640
event producer community
organizer social media

1083
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:47,100
strategist. Okay, all the things
oh definitely all the things all

1084
01:12:47,100 --> 01:12:47,430
right.

1085
01:12:48,420 --> 01:12:50,790
Karen for the mere mortals
pocket that's all over papers.

1086
01:12:51,300 --> 01:12:55,740
For boost pay. Karen sin is a
11,111 SATs through Fahrenheit

1087
01:12:55,740 --> 01:12:58,500
and he says Well, I barely
understood anything from this

1088
01:12:58,500 --> 01:13:01,350
episode but I still loved it.
The podcasts and 2.0 progress

1089
01:13:01,350 --> 01:13:02,130
cannot be stopped

1090
01:13:05,010 --> 01:13:05,760
Thank you sir.

1091
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:09,540
She never sent us 33,000 SATs
through fountaining he says

1092
01:13:09,630 --> 01:13:10,830
boost boost boost

1093
01:13:10,890 --> 01:13:13,950
oh he wants the triple booster

1094
01:13:16,500 --> 01:13:22,980
boost boost brand Brian have
London 1948 sets and he says

1095
01:13:23,370 --> 01:13:30,480
that's why my what that's my
wife's ringtone what Brian have

1096
01:13:30,480 --> 01:13:31,620
no idea he Tombow brother

1097
01:13:32,190 --> 01:13:35,430
well I gotta go back wash I'll
look at the at the I'll be that

1098
01:13:35,430 --> 01:13:37,680
this is one of these moments
where you want to know at what

1099
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:40,140
point in the show the boost the
boost the gram came in.

1100
01:13:40,260 --> 01:13:43,620
Okay, this has a timestamp. It
says one hour 30 minutes and

1101
01:13:43,620 --> 01:13:44,520
four seconds.

1102
01:13:46,350 --> 01:13:49,410
Yeah, okay, well then I can
actually I can see that and so

1103
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:52,500
homeless 30 This is This is
worth it to see if this really

1104
01:13:52,500 --> 01:13:58,500
works. So it will be what
episode was it? It's 105105

1105
01:13:58,500 --> 01:14:01,620
Here's 105 Okay, and I'm going
to

1106
01:14:01,620 --> 01:14:04,050
the time is one 3004

1107
01:14:05,820 --> 01:14:11,520
And let me see if I see the
boost boost boost

1108
01:14:16,860 --> 01:14:19,230
my wife's ringtone so we must
have played some this

1109
01:14:19,230 --> 01:14:22,440
Brian of lung oh here it is.
Okay, one of those stock names

1110
01:14:22,440 --> 01:14:26,610
from Brees Who said I'm gonna go
back

1111
01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:31,170
how do you David Adam, people
who carry water for Putin will

1112
01:14:31,170 --> 01:14:31,860
lose self as

1113
01:14:31,980 --> 01:14:34,050
one of those stock names from
Brees

1114
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:40,260
dollars to go about getting DJ
Steve boy yet on board

1115
01:14:40,470 --> 01:14:42,780
this Oh somewhere in the
donation segment and I'm

1116
01:14:42,780 --> 01:14:46,200
clicking to the spot you can
hear jumping by it you know

1117
01:14:46,230 --> 01:14:48,330
there's a there's a think well

1118
01:14:49,830 --> 01:14:53,040
you should be able to see you're
the master of visualizing the

1119
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:56,730
set this the way for all mas see
this music in there.

1120
01:14:56,760 --> 01:15:00,810
If only I had a waveform it's
just Because what I'm doing I'm

1121
01:15:00,810 --> 01:15:03,600
looking at this is the beauty of
it I'm looking at Saturn which

1122
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:08,730
is the lb stats page. And I see
here if you've ever looked if

1123
01:15:08,730 --> 01:15:11,760
you haven't looked at it's an
amazing system it's exactly what

1124
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:14,220
you want I can see all the
streaming sites shows me that

1125
01:15:14,220 --> 01:15:17,880
people barely drop out of the
show. And it shows me on this

1126
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:21,750
timeline it shows me all these
different booster grams so if I

1127
01:15:21,750 --> 01:15:25,920
go to the first one here this is
gonna go to

1128
01:15:25,950 --> 01:15:28,710
create great music meses This is
a booster

1129
01:15:28,740 --> 01:15:31,230
right here. How do you know this
is where howdy Dave and Adam

1130
01:15:31,230 --> 01:15:34,680
comes in please invite your
audience to visit the URL era AI

1131
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:38,430
dot cooking era why he did that?
I like running stuff like that.

1132
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:42,300
Not there's something not right
about the interface because I

1133
01:15:42,300 --> 01:15:45,900
can see where people boost and
it jumps to the audio. But I

1134
01:15:45,900 --> 01:15:49,110
have to scroll back to
understand why they boosted at

1135
01:15:49,110 --> 01:15:52,710
that moment. Because the moment
they be the moment they boost is

1136
01:15:52,710 --> 01:15:55,980
already after something was
said. Does that make sense?

1137
01:15:56,490 --> 01:16:00,840
Did we let him I wonder if it
was the Hawaii Five o that you

1138
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:07,590
played? Live in a minute. Okay.
No, I said Maybe he meant toe

1139
01:16:07,590 --> 01:16:15,450
ring not ringtone so sorry.
Thanks, Brian. will say row

1140
01:16:15,450 --> 01:16:19,860
sticks from Justin Trudeau 1111
in his messages, this is Drew

1141
01:16:19,860 --> 01:16:22,500
Brees and his messages podcast.
index.org

1142
01:16:22,740 --> 01:16:24,120
Yeah. Okay. Thank you very much.

1143
01:16:24,150 --> 01:16:28,470
It exists. Yes. exist. Yay. Roy
Schonfeld.

1144
01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:30,060
Yeah, hello Roy

1145
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:35,820
54 321 through breeze and he
says meet me at Bitcoin

1146
01:16:35,820 --> 01:16:40,050
Amsterdam. Well, Bitcoin
Hamsterdam that's over and that

1147
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:42,390
didn't end I think it did answer
Yeah.

1148
01:16:42,900 --> 01:16:47,610
You know, it's, I don't want to
understand is like this. But

1149
01:16:47,610 --> 01:16:50,670
here's the problem with these
Bitcoin conferences. It's like

1150
01:16:50,670 --> 01:16:54,600
the people who go there and
speak on panels they they have

1151
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:58,830
companies or they have lots of
Bitcoin they can use to travel

1152
01:16:58,830 --> 01:17:04,980
with no one's ever offered me
like airfare. Yeah, or a hotel

1153
01:17:05,010 --> 01:17:08,760
or something. Hey, come speak at
our Bitcoin like Okay, that's

1154
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:12,540
great. No, I don't have any
plans to travel dot dot dot.

1155
01:17:14,250 --> 01:17:17,640
That's, that's like when
somebody in your family says

1156
01:17:17,850 --> 01:17:21,000
hey, can you be in my wedding?
And you're like, you do

1157
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:23,070
understand this is gonna cost me
like two grand.

1158
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:27,300
Exactly a destination wedding
thanks pounds

1159
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:36,090
3333 from double double zek
Bozek any new message? Oh,

1160
01:17:36,300 --> 01:17:38,070
bummer. I was looking forward to
hear from so we

1161
01:17:38,070 --> 01:17:39,390
only had one PayPal.

1162
01:17:41,910 --> 01:17:44,010
Wow, the trend that we had to
know we had to we had a

1163
01:17:44,010 --> 01:17:44,640
transition

1164
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:45,480
has been amazing.

1165
01:17:46,019 --> 01:17:49,589
We had in Jennifer never It

1166
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:52,620
is a fantastic transition.

1167
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:57,300
Roy Sheffield back again. More
he couldn't get enough he gave

1168
01:17:57,300 --> 01:18:02,190
it his 10,000 SATs. says thanks.
Thanks for brief shout out Adam.

1169
01:18:03,870 --> 01:18:09,030
You know what's happened? He's
taken the What's that? What's

1170
01:18:09,630 --> 01:18:11,010
that sleeping pill that

1171
01:18:12,480 --> 01:18:13,350
oh, the Ambien

1172
01:18:13,410 --> 01:18:15,930
Ambien doing Ambien and wine
again.

1173
01:18:17,850 --> 01:18:21,000
That's gonna wake your ROI.
Stop. Don't do that. You're

1174
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:24,210
gonna wake up Chantix he's gonna
chant you're

1175
01:18:24,210 --> 01:18:26,760
gonna wake up and you're gonna
wake up and you've boosted your

1176
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:30,990
entire your entire node to
podcasting 2.0 I can just see

1177
01:18:30,990 --> 01:18:32,370
him then Ambien Hayes.

1178
01:18:33,150 --> 01:18:35,550
He's gonna be in his he's gonna
be in his neighbor's backyard.

1179
01:18:37,980 --> 01:18:40,380
Make it hitting the boost button
over and over again.

1180
01:18:42,900 --> 01:18:52,890
Yellin steak and eggs gene been
1337 leet automatic. And he

1181
01:18:52,890 --> 01:18:56,460
says, so long as podcast events
really is privacy, respecting,

1182
01:18:56,460 --> 01:19:00,090
as described, happily gives my
listening data me to

1183
01:19:00,150 --> 01:19:04,680
me to let me tell you that just
the download data that you know,

1184
01:19:04,890 --> 01:19:08,100
I was only planning on doing it
once and I did it twice and op

1185
01:19:08,100 --> 01:19:10,770
three and now like, I could just
throw everything in there. It

1186
01:19:10,770 --> 01:19:14,490
gets real easy. I don't care.
That's been it's only the only

1187
01:19:14,490 --> 01:19:17,160
thing about sharing that data.
And of course it's you know, I

1188
01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:22,590
don't think it's any violation
for the listeners. As I'd like

1189
01:19:22,590 --> 01:19:25,980
James Cridland saying, Wow, what
a podcast I like I like that

1190
01:19:25,980 --> 01:19:29,010
right. I feel like oh, the curry
is not full of crap does have

1191
01:19:29,010 --> 01:19:31,830
quite a quite an audience there.
That was a good moment. I like

1192
01:19:31,830 --> 01:19:32,190
that.

1193
01:19:32,460 --> 01:19:36,360
Here. What here's what I need to
know from Spurlock though, and

1194
01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:42,150
need to know if we can also op
three Image, Image art album art

1195
01:19:42,150 --> 01:19:48,060
through there because I would
like to juxtapose the downloads

1196
01:19:48,060 --> 01:19:51,390
at the album art with the
downloads of the enclosures,

1197
01:19:51,780 --> 01:19:53,340
just purely for

1198
01:19:53,580 --> 01:19:56,040
just for statistical purposes.
Yeah.

1199
01:19:56,070 --> 01:19:57,870
qiryat morbid curiosity.

1200
01:19:57,900 --> 01:20:02,160
Thanks and a millennial 10 1000
SATs just came in with a booster

1201
01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:05,670
Graham I'm starting to like you
nerds, right? Hey man, we're

1202
01:20:05,670 --> 01:20:07,530
popular with the millennials.
All right?

1203
01:20:08,130 --> 01:20:13,770
We already lied to you and a
millennial is 5552 from Satoshi

1204
01:20:13,770 --> 01:20:18,330
stream through fountain in
Satoshi dream says putting a

1205
01:20:18,330 --> 01:20:21,510
string in your show notes to
verify might be ugly, but it

1206
01:20:21,510 --> 01:20:24,420
works. That's true. But we're
about to give you a better

1207
01:20:24,420 --> 01:20:27,120
solution though Satoshi stream
Hang Hang tight. It's coming.

1208
01:20:27,150 --> 01:20:30,900
Yes, yes, yes. It's coming
brother or sister. We still

1209
01:20:30,900 --> 01:20:33,180
don't know. Anonymous.

1210
01:20:34,530 --> 01:20:36,750
I love that about Satoshi
stream. We don't know who you

1211
01:20:36,750 --> 01:20:38,910
could be a whole bunch of
people. It's almost like it's

1212
01:20:38,910 --> 01:20:40,230
like Satoshi himself.

1213
01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:47,970
It is Yes. His entire team is a
1043 sets from anonymous. No

1214
01:20:47,970 --> 01:20:52,590
note thank you anonymous. A test
boost of 1000 SATs from Dred

1215
01:20:52,590 --> 01:20:58,830
Scott. Thank you Jared. See
that's lower. Let's have drippy

1216
01:20:58,830 --> 01:21:03,300
boost coal McCormick 5000 SATs
through fountain he says you

1217
01:21:03,300 --> 01:21:05,670
know it seems like every other
week a person I'm following is

1218
01:21:05,670 --> 01:21:08,880
being demonetised on YouTube or
another platform you don't

1219
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:12,180
always some algo thing or a
bigger company being greedy

1220
01:21:12,270 --> 01:21:16,230
value for value is the path I
will take that to the grave go

1221
01:21:16,230 --> 01:21:16,770
podcast

1222
01:21:16,799 --> 01:21:24,089
yay. Boost I know I saw a lot of
these notes oh man value for

1223
01:21:24,089 --> 01:21:25,769
value. We're saved.

1224
01:21:26,460 --> 01:21:32,040
We're saved yes SLC 77 777

1225
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:34,680
that hey striper boost

1226
01:21:35,910 --> 01:21:41,010
Galatians six six for a value
for value verse careful. May and

1227
01:21:41,010 --> 01:21:44,850
has been abused for 2000 years
judgment incoming. He is the

1228
01:21:44,850 --> 01:21:48,060
Good Shepherd and we are His
flock don't get caught reaping

1229
01:21:48,060 --> 01:21:53,610
with your lips around the feed
to win set. In certain goat

1230
01:21:53,610 --> 01:21:58,050
screen here no karma.
International namespace day and

1231
01:21:58,050 --> 01:22:01,440
Putin's birthday on June 7 Go
Bert book co Podcast.

1232
01:22:02,940 --> 01:22:05,430
I'm still looking for a good
screen for him

1233
01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:12,150
threw me off their

1234
01:22:12,780 --> 01:22:15,450
international podcast day in
Putin's birthday on the same

1235
01:22:15,450 --> 01:22:19,800
day. That's that's that's that's
rough. It's a conspiracy.

1236
01:22:20,070 --> 01:22:24,960
That'll get you the monitor is
Sir Doug's and his 10,000 says

1237
01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:29,640
no note through fountain. Thank
you sir. Jean beans 16,000

1238
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:33,720
Sastre cast dramatic beauty. And
Jean bean says, y'all

1239
01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:36,870
misunderstood my boost from last
week. Oh, I was talking. I was

1240
01:22:36,870 --> 01:22:40,530
talking wanting guides for
podcast listeners not podcasters

1241
01:22:40,740 --> 01:22:43,800
that talk about how to get
started with value for value in

1242
01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:47,580
that show what a listener gets
by using gets by using a

1243
01:22:47,580 --> 01:22:51,810
podcasting 2.0 app instead of a
traditional one. I think these

1244
01:22:51,810 --> 01:22:54,660
really could be helpful for
educating audiences. Right, but

1245
01:22:54,660 --> 01:22:59,160
I think that should be the
podcast apps who do that? Even I

1246
01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:02,790
can't write it. I mean, I can
but it's gonna be different for

1247
01:23:02,790 --> 01:23:07,380
pod verse than it is for I mean,
you know, granted it was a

1248
01:23:07,380 --> 01:23:10,980
valiant Valley and go there by
Alby you know, they're like hey,

1249
01:23:10,980 --> 01:23:13,530
this is a good idea let's not
only have confetti let's have

1250
01:23:13,530 --> 01:23:14,880
the same explainer.

1251
01:23:18,540 --> 01:23:19,560
They're never you never know
when

1252
01:23:20,580 --> 01:23:21,660
I'm just messing with

1253
01:23:22,410 --> 01:23:27,510
that. That's the the the, the
thing that pops to mind is the

1254
01:23:27,510 --> 01:23:29,730
slides that we did it the

1255
01:23:30,210 --> 01:23:33,390
oh, we need to get those onto
the onto the value for value

1256
01:23:33,420 --> 01:23:36,390
page as a different guide
because we have a guides page. I

1257
01:23:36,390 --> 01:23:39,330
think we just put that up there
just so people can get the full

1258
01:23:39,330 --> 01:23:41,250
scope. I have a copy

1259
01:23:41,250 --> 01:23:47,010
goes through every single one.
Okay. Roy, Roy Schoenfeld, the

1260
01:23:47,010 --> 01:23:52,770
Ambien way he decided to get
back in for another glass of

1261
01:23:52,770 --> 01:23:54,300
wine 5000 sets.

1262
01:23:54,660 --> 01:23:57,210
Oh, he's running out of
Chardonnay.

1263
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:05,580
SLC came in with 7777 bounce
through fountain. This is Adam.

1264
01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:11,100
Yeah. Oh wait, this this looks
like a transcript. Oh, Adam, I'm

1265
01:24:11,100 --> 01:24:15,180
looking for some animal robot
interaction. Time passes. Dave.

1266
01:24:15,780 --> 01:24:20,130
I'm not ready for the in times
Mark of the Beast crap. lol go

1267
01:24:20,130 --> 01:24:20,700
podcasting.

1268
01:24:21,660 --> 01:24:26,460
Podcast. Not sure what it was
but we'll take your Satoshis

1269
01:24:26,820 --> 01:24:31,050
we evidently said weird stuff on
the last Yes. Dave Jackson Hall

1270
01:24:31,050 --> 01:24:33,840
of Famer from the school of
podcasting 5000 SAS and he says

1271
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:36,900
V four v is in the Bible pay the
workers their wages First

1272
01:24:36,900 --> 01:24:40,980
Timothy 518 I like I like it.
Well,

1273
01:24:40,980 --> 01:24:44,370
time talent treasure is is
something you hear in church.

1274
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:47,700
That's where I stole it. No, I
got it from Tina. She probably

1275
01:24:47,700 --> 01:24:48,630
stole it from church.

1276
01:24:49,950 --> 01:24:53,640
The tone wrecker 2052. Sets
through fountain Nene says

1277
01:24:53,970 --> 01:24:56,910
Nightcrawler robotics
brainstorming boost. The team

1278
01:24:56,910 --> 01:24:59,430
has an additional robot with
attached t shirt cannon for

1279
01:24:59,430 --> 01:25:02,460
school event. So a food launcher
could actually be considered

1280
01:25:02,850 --> 01:25:06,360
received an anonymous donation
of sets in that new Alby wallet

1281
01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:09,060
and mentioned it on our weekly
update to get more students

1282
01:25:09,060 --> 01:25:12,240
inquiring how it works, and how
they can participate. Happy to

1283
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:15,210
feel suggestions from anyone for
more robot integrations via

1284
01:25:15,210 --> 01:25:19,260
booster grams to Nightcrawler
2050. To podcast. These weeks

1285
01:25:19,260 --> 01:25:25,920
are moving quickly go nerds.
Yes, boobs. Okay. What was yes,

1286
01:25:25,980 --> 01:25:26,550
boobs.

1287
01:25:28,230 --> 01:25:29,550
Just popped up.

1288
01:25:30,150 --> 01:25:33,900
Okay, let's see what that's the
Oh, Marissa Brown of London and

1289
01:25:33,900 --> 01:25:40,620
hive Dao. Oh 101243 Yeah. Hi.

1290
01:25:46,500 --> 01:25:51,930
Blades on am Paula. He says
you've been hard forked.

1291
01:25:57,270 --> 01:25:58,050
back atcha

1292
01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:01,320
and unlike the New York Times,
and podcasting, people know, we

1293
01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:04,140
actually know what a hard fork
is. This is this really stuck in

1294
01:26:04,140 --> 01:26:04,980
his craw by the way

1295
01:26:05,010 --> 01:26:09,810
I read that and I also went Oh,
man, what a bunch of idiots.

1296
01:26:09,900 --> 01:26:13,260
Yes. Do you have an infinite
regular? Do you have an in front

1297
01:26:13,260 --> 01:26:18,480
of you the wood the description
of hard fork? No, I

1298
01:26:18,480 --> 01:26:19,980
don't want it some other screen.
Yeah,

1299
01:26:19,980 --> 01:26:21,810
go ahead. Keep keep reading up.
I'll find it.

1300
01:26:22,140 --> 01:26:26,550
He says double my regular boost
to celebrate as hard for 26

1301
01:26:26,910 --> 01:26:29,250
That's a good celebration.
Congrats, that really congrats

1302
01:26:29,250 --> 01:26:31,470
to that team. I know that's
that's not an easy thing to do.

1303
01:26:31,500 --> 01:26:35,610
Here's the so Brian. I'll read
his whole posts. Can you believe

1304
01:26:35,610 --> 01:26:38,820
that the two top writers at the
New York Times actually named

1305
01:26:38,820 --> 01:26:44,850
their show hard fork and defined
hard fork like this colon. Quote

1306
01:26:44,850 --> 01:26:48,630
open. A hard fork is a
programming term for when you're

1307
01:26:48,630 --> 01:26:51,510
building something that gets
really screwed up. So you take

1308
01:26:51,510 --> 01:26:55,920
the entire thing, break it and
start over and quote. No, it's

1309
01:26:55,920 --> 01:27:02,670
not. Oh, my goodness. How how I
mean, that is just

1310
01:27:05,340 --> 01:27:08,010
give me a boil. I mean, look,
they had Kara Swisher in the

1311
01:27:08,010 --> 01:27:09,870
tech category. So

1312
01:27:09,930 --> 01:27:14,520
yeah, that's true. I bet you
heard Quinlan say, Well, you

1313
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:18,600
know, the Kara Swisher was a
tech show. No, she's a political

1314
01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:22,140
show of anything. interview
show. Sway was an interview

1315
01:27:22,140 --> 01:27:22,530
show.

1316
01:27:22,950 --> 01:27:23,850
Gossip show.

1317
01:27:24,870 --> 01:27:27,780
No does no sway celebrity
gossip.

1318
01:27:27,780 --> 01:27:30,060
That's what half of it is just
like,

1319
01:27:30,210 --> 01:27:33,000
are you talking about pivot?
Because sway was her interview

1320
01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:36,060
show? That's the that's the one
that changed to hard fork. I'm

1321
01:27:36,060 --> 01:27:38,940
talking about the one with Prof.
G. Yeah, that's pivot. That's

1322
01:27:38,940 --> 01:27:42,300
not That's not the one that that
changed. The one that changed

1323
01:27:42,300 --> 01:27:43,140
was way.

1324
01:27:44,010 --> 01:27:46,470
The one where she interviewed
the lady friends. Yeah, yeah.

1325
01:27:47,010 --> 01:27:49,440
Yeah. Well, it's definitely not
it's actually no, it's not.

1326
01:27:50,340 --> 01:27:55,830
Blueberry 17 776 super limited
boost in the morning, came

1327
01:27:55,830 --> 01:27:58,710
across a group that can set up
Federated Services like peer

1328
01:27:58,710 --> 01:28:02,550
tube as your a cask matrix and
etc. for podcasters that I would

1329
01:28:02,550 --> 01:28:06,480
like to shout out. Their name is
Prometheus dot systems. And they

1330
01:28:06,480 --> 01:28:10,680
are the ones who set up our new
mesto server spook does social I

1331
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:15,840
would recommend their services
if you are and that's all the

1332
01:28:15,870 --> 01:28:17,700
message. The rest of this guy
ran

1333
01:28:17,700 --> 01:28:20,820
out. He ran out of space. This
is kind of interesting is

1334
01:28:20,820 --> 01:28:23,730
Prometheus systems. I got a
badass website. That's kind of

1335
01:28:23,730 --> 01:28:24,120
cool.

1336
01:28:24,480 --> 01:28:27,300
Is that the actual URL?
Prometheus dot system? Yeah.

1337
01:28:27,540 --> 01:28:32,940
Yeah. I didn't know that systems
was a TLD. Everything's,

1338
01:28:33,810 --> 01:28:35,160
I guess so interesting.

1339
01:28:35,820 --> 01:28:39,240
These boxes probably a TLD. It
should be

1340
01:28:39,270 --> 01:28:42,060
it should be. Okay. Interesting
group. Very cool.

1341
01:28:42,660 --> 01:28:47,130
lyceum. 2222. To Adam, thank you
for your responses to my

1342
01:28:47,130 --> 01:28:49,890
questions regarding wallets. If
you listened to pod runner,

1343
01:28:49,980 --> 01:28:55,170
groove electric, and the V for V
Twitter handle. I will test to

1344
01:28:55,170 --> 01:28:58,170
fill my wallet on breeze. I will
talk with the folks that I'll be

1345
01:28:58,170 --> 01:29:00,570
next week about a new feature.
It is great to see the

1346
01:29:00,570 --> 01:29:03,840
developments of the new features
and the new podcast apps. Well,

1347
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:08,430
thank you, Mario. Sure. Thanks,
Martin. delimiter here he is,

1348
01:29:08,430 --> 01:29:15,810
ladies and gentlemen. Comic
Strip blogger. 1533 15033

1349
01:29:15,810 --> 01:29:18,720
through fountain 80 says Howdy,
David. Adam. Please invite your

1350
01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:23,580
audience to visit URL colon,
open quote, AI dot cooking close

1351
01:29:23,580 --> 01:29:27,270
quote in web browser or search
for it in any podcast app to

1352
01:29:27,270 --> 01:29:30,540
listen to British voice of
Gregory William Forsythe Forman

1353
01:29:30,690 --> 01:29:35,160
from Kent UK. jibber jabbering
about artificial intelligence

1354
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:39,930
news history and knowledge and
stay dangerous with Samsung yo

1355
01:29:41,040 --> 01:29:49,800
yo with that Samsung thing is
what are down we got some we got

1356
01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:55,740
some lovely Sir Alex gates in
the podcast and people no

1357
01:29:55,740 --> 01:29:58,980
consultant $25 pod verse. Thank
you.

1358
01:29:59,220 --> 01:30:02,430
Thank you, Alex. The only
consultant who will pay his

1359
01:30:02,430 --> 01:30:06,090
clients is unbelievable. This
podcasting 2.0 thing is

1360
01:30:06,090 --> 01:30:06,960
phenomenal.

1361
01:30:07,620 --> 01:30:13,140
I like I like to think that we
give him such joy in his heart

1362
01:30:13,200 --> 01:30:17,670
value that that in that's the
value and so he just a little

1363
01:30:17,670 --> 01:30:21,570
piece of that joy is just $25
worth of joy and he just gives

1364
01:30:21,570 --> 01:30:22,170
that back to

1365
01:30:22,320 --> 01:30:25,170
were much cheaper than a hooker.
Yes,

1366
01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:28,770
it just there's just sloughs
off. Yes.

1367
01:30:28,830 --> 01:30:32,160
That was very that was very
inappropriate. I apologize. I

1368
01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:35,970
realized right off the bat. It
was inappropriate. David Norman

1369
01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:42,750
$25 Mr. hypercasual Derek J.
Vickery. $21. Lauren ball

1370
01:30:42,750 --> 01:30:49,650
$24.20. Damon Cassie, Jack $15
Mitch Downey. From pod verse

1371
01:30:49,650 --> 01:30:53,700
$10. Thank you, Mitch. Q.
Christopher horrible. Eric $10.

1372
01:30:54,450 --> 01:31:00,450
Jeremy Kevin all $10 Terry
Keller $5. Soren Hilger Mahler?

1373
01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:05,760
Miller $5 Just Jeffrey
Rutherford. $5 Chris Cowan $5 In

1374
01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:07,350
Jeremy gerdts $5

1375
01:31:08,130 --> 01:31:11,010
That's it. That's Wow, thank you
all very much for supporting

1376
01:31:11,010 --> 01:31:14,190
podcasting. 2.0 you're
supporting the systems, the

1377
01:31:14,190 --> 01:31:17,100
servers, you're supporting this
show you're keeping us

1378
01:31:17,100 --> 01:31:20,700
motivated, you're giving us a
little bit while you're giving

1379
01:31:20,700 --> 01:31:23,700
us actually quite a nice amount
with the Satoshis for the node

1380
01:31:23,700 --> 01:31:27,570
to be able to provide liquidity
which will be increasingly more

1381
01:31:28,950 --> 01:31:32,610
and we're just a bridge as well
you know until two other people

1382
01:31:32,610 --> 01:31:35,880
start taking over a lot of those
functions but so happy to do

1383
01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:39,450
this it's the best job of ever
has ever had hands hands hands

1384
01:31:39,450 --> 01:31:41,880
down. I love it. Look at the
people we get to work where I

1385
01:31:41,880 --> 01:31:46,440
get to work with Dave Jones, pod
sage stop

1386
01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:49,950
silliness this silliness as to
stop

1387
01:31:50,849 --> 01:31:54,629
it's to 12 You gotta go You
gotta It's pumpkin time for you

1388
01:31:54,629 --> 01:31:54,959
know

1389
01:31:58,530 --> 01:32:03,720
like, yeah, I guess I got to
it's we can talk about stuff

1390
01:32:03,720 --> 01:32:07,440
next week. I guess. I really we
got we got to talk about remote

1391
01:32:07,440 --> 01:32:08,010
item

1392
01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:14,520
and ooh, yeah, well, let's okay,
but stay man has guest maybe the

1393
01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:18,390
podcast industrial complex
cannot create any news for our

1394
01:32:18,390 --> 01:32:21,000
next show so we can just get to
it because they keep creating

1395
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:22,410
news that is great for us.

1396
01:32:23,130 --> 01:32:25,950
Yeah, but we can't stop we get a
waste distracting.

1397
01:32:26,009 --> 01:32:31,739
We gotta work yeah. Well, we'll
have Cridland put them on notice

1398
01:32:32,459 --> 01:32:36,179
Stop it just stopped going to
stop going out of business. We

1399
01:32:36,809 --> 01:32:37,859
we need to move forward

1400
01:32:39,210 --> 01:32:40,590
stop canceling your shows.

1401
01:32:41,490 --> 01:32:44,070
That stop that it's so
sickening. No,

1402
01:32:44,130 --> 01:32:45,750
I actually don't stop because
it's really fun.

1403
01:32:45,930 --> 01:32:49,080
No, it's not fun. It's not when
people get fired that they're

1404
01:32:49,500 --> 01:32:52,830
not that people losing their
jobs. But the the exclusive show

1405
01:32:52,860 --> 01:32:56,010
the exclusive content to doing
failing. Yeah, I like that. Do

1406
01:32:56,010 --> 01:32:56,610
enjoy that.

1407
01:32:58,140 --> 01:33:04,650
Be a leaky bucket Dave Jones.
That was born. All right,

1408
01:33:04,650 --> 01:33:09,510
brother. Have a great weekend
and you to go podcasting my

1409
01:33:09,510 --> 01:33:13,290
friend. We are where this is so
we're kicking ass. It's just

1410
01:33:13,290 --> 01:33:17,400
fun. It is just fun. All right,
that's podcasting. 2.0 the board

1411
01:33:17,400 --> 01:33:21,810
meeting for this week. We'll be
back next week. Keep in touch at

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01:33:21,810 --> 01:33:25,260
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us and podcasting next door.

1413
01:33:25,380 --> 01:33:26,580
Until next week, bye bye.

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01:33:40,950 --> 01:33:45,510
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