Episode 174: Nice and Frothy

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Adam Curry: podcasting 2.0 For
April 5 2024, episode 174 were

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nice and frothy. Well, it's
Friday once again time for the

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board meaning of podcasting. 2.0
everything happening in

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podcasting. You don't need any
other podcast. You don't need

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pod news weekly review you don't
need the new media show. Just

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kidding. It's a nice little
agenda Mr. Ford room the only

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one that doesn't need an IPO to
be public. I'm Adam curry here

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in the heart of the Texas Hill
Country in an Alabama ladies

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he's the man that can cook your
dinner and do your taxes. Say

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hello to my friend on the other
end the One Only pod sage Mr. De

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Jones.

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Dave Jones: For clarity I can do
neither one of those things.

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Adam Curry: Wait a minute. Yeah,
you're the tax guy.

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Dave Jones: No, no, I'm the I'm
the guy that helps the guys that

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do the tax.

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Adam Curry: Okay, okay. I
gotcha. I gotcha. How you doing

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brother?

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Dave Jones: I'm good and I
cannot believe you made it

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through that intro without
without some kind of crazy

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thing. Coming out of coming out
of whatever audio this whatever

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rig this thing is. Yeah, it is
spewing out all kinds of weird

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stuff. And I know people were
frantically boosting to try to

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get it to do something weird.
Yeah, good luck.

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Adam Curry: We will explain
exactly why as we bring on our

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guests in a little bit in a few
minutes. Also for everyone, so

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you know, we are fresh. Good.
Fresh. Good on the show. Fresh

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good. Fresh, fresh. Oh,

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Dave Jones: you got a brand new
one. Okay. I

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Adam Curry: had no idea that I
needed to have a fresh Gu ID for

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the live shows. I this was

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Dave Jones: this was a new good
drop.

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Adam Curry: New good. This
wasn't I didn't know I feel

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dumb. No, no,

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Dave Jones: don't don't feel
that way. Adam should never feel

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that way about yourself.
valuable. I

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Adam Curry: didn't realize that
it you know, it screws up all

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kinds of things. downstreams
it's crazy it

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Dave Jones: in, you know, on
paper.

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Adam Curry: It's just like a
space before a value block is on

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paper. It should be a prom, but
it really isn't.

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Dave Jones: It's fine. It's, you
know, I mean, like, all this

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stuff is like that. That's the
beauty about right. That's the

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beauty and beautiful thing about
writing a spec, you already know

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that nobody's going to do half
of what you say in the spec. So

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you write if you if you write
that, if you write the spec with

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that in mind, then you know what
to leave out and what not to be

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hung up about. You're like, you
know, I'm gonna put this in

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there, but they're probably not
going to do it anyway. So,

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Adam Curry: so when so when
you're writing up a spec, say

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maybe you're putting something
in into into the GitHub for

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proposal. Where are you already
writing are you so you're

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already writing down the writing
stuff and go like no one's gonna

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do this is you have that when
you're doing

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Dave Jones: it goes further than
that. It's not just nobody's

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gonna do this. I know exactly.
Which ones are not which ones

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are not going to do. I'm like,

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Adam Curry: oh, you know, you
already know why she won't do

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it.

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Dave Jones: I'm like Franco will
never do this.

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Adam Curry: Oh, there you go.
Thanks, Franco. Going to keep

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him

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Dave Jones: I love you Franca.

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Adam Curry: So a couple of
things up front first of all,

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I'm very happy very I'm a happy
man. This was a great week

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because I had a day off
yesterday I did it was weird. It

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was and you know, yeah, I had a
day off but guess what, you

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know, Tina's like let's go do
some stuff or get some shopping

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together Main Street and that is
an exact replica for voice no

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new media show Todd and Rob were
fighting about video again. It

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was I felt home Yes. I felt ah
there we are. It's good. It's

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good to be back home now.
Beautiful and beautiful thing I

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missed you guys. Although dude,
that song they have as the

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opener that's not doing it for
me. That's

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Dave Jones: they this is a fail
that just tells

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Adam Curry: me that AI is is not
doing its job which as we know

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from the Amazon walkout store,
there's all bogus anyway. How

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funny was that story?

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Dave Jones: What is cheaper than
a GPU? Nvidia GPU

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Adam Curry: 1000 Indians

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Dave Jones: you can get seven or
eight Indians for the cost of

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Nvidia 3950 Yeah,

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Adam Curry: just if you hadn't
seen the story, the Amazon is

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closing its walk out stores. I
guess the the the financials

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didn't make sense. And as it
turns out, and I have no idea

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why this was disclosed. It's
crazy. That it wasn't really

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some fancy AI that is tracking
every product you put into your

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basket and walk out with no it
was 1000 Indians. Which sounds

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kind of derivative to be quite
honest.

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Dave Jones: Like, are you a
racist? No.

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Adam Curry: Oh, yes, there it is
racist. Yeah, no. You mean

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derogatory? It's like, yeah, all
of the above it was 1000 people

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in India is probably probably

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Dave Jones: a better way to say
it. 1000 Indians? Yeah, just

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Adam Curry: it just sounds
wrong. I mean, it reduces them

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to I don't know, chips I had
just doesn't feel good. It

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didn't feel right. So, yeah, so
the so AI of course, is, is and

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companies now raising $50
billion you know, to make it all

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work. Don't worry if we can just
raise 50 More billion dollars

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here are their Don't worry,
you'll get your money back.

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Promise. Yeah,

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Dave Jones: this. We, we live in
an interesting period of time

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where the, it's the free money
train went for so long. That now

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it's, it's been pretty
interesting to watch it fall

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apart. Because no. Like, there's
this psychological thing that

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happens where when something
goes on, when you go into

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cycles, you know, you it's like,
you get it, you get the boom,

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and the bust and the boom and
the bust. But then if the boom,

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if the bus never comes for a
long time, for maybe 1015 years,

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and you don't have the bus, then
you kind of you forget that

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there's gonna be a bus. Oh,

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Adam Curry: you know what I was
talking with the Vortech about

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this who's been around longer
than any of us. And so he's seen

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these cycles come and go. And
he's on he's on board with me

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like this is this is bullcrap.
But anyway, when you have this

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is the third cycle of of AI. Now
we had a couple and then we had

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the AI winter and we will have
another AI winter. But he feels

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that usually when you go through
three, three cycles, then it

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catches and it will last three
to five years. And then you get

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like a big explosion very
similar to the.com bust in 2000.

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A mega drop. Yeah. Yeah. Which
sounds right to me. You know,

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because it feels about because
it's so much money in this and,

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and all these parlor tricks. Oh,
look at this image I created.

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Oh, look at the song that I
created up put it on my podcast

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is intro music. You know, it's
just like, and it and even just

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the incessant how AI is going to
fit into podcasting.

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Dave Jones: Yeah, like right
now. We're not we're not we're

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not at like full blown. Descent.
We're like 20 degrees down

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bubble.

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Adam Curry: We were headed 20
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Dave Jones: like that. Yeah,
we're like headed down at a slow

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pace. In the we're in. It's
causing all sorts of like weird

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things to happen. You're getting
like, Did you did you see we

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hadn't really talked about this.
I don't think last week. But did

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you see that kit piece on Andrew
Huberman? Yeah, I

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Adam Curry: don't really. I
didn't really I saw it. But I

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didn't really get I don't really
care. It was the New Yorker

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magazine, I think. Yeah.

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Dave Jones: And I don't I don't
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that much, either. But I did. I
did read it because I saw a

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couple of references to it. This
sounded like it was there might

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be a couple of intriguing things
in there that I generally don't

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go in for, you know, for just a
clear sort of hit pieces.

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Whether they're true or not, I
just don't know does not

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entertaining to me. But, but I
did read it. It is a very long

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piece. And it's very odd. And
what I mean, I don't mean the

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content. I mean, like, so this
this piece was like, every

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paragraph took this form. Look
at how horrible Andrew Haberman

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is because here's all these
things that a former girlfriend

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said about him. But we contacted
him and his spokesperson said

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that all of these things are not
true.

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Adam Curry: And so we published
it right away.

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Dave Jones: Dude, every
paragraph was, here's what

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happened. And here's the
response from his from from his

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people. Here's what happened.
Here's the response from his

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people. I've never seen an error
like this is weird. And I guess

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the reason I'm bringing this up
is because like, of course like

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when you get popular you're
gonna get targeted and we will I

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mean this is just a thing. And
all the stuff in it may be true.

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I mean, what what I want my
daughter to date Andrew Haberman

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No, but I'm just saying that
like we live in like this weird

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Doc's culture where we're trying
to like out we're journalism is

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trying to like get a get the
nasty scoop on everybody. And

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now that the sort of the podcast
winner has said in and people

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aren't making as much money and
the and the advertising is like

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on a weekly basis showing the
bacon pleat fraud. You started

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to get like a crack gets in the
you know, the door gets a crack

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in it and then the hit pieces
just you shove their foot in the

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door. Yeah, it's been, it's
entertaining to watch

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Adam Curry: what I find. So I'd
like to remind everybody of

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this, you know, the, the idea of
growing your show 10,000

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downloads, get advertising, but
people forget in all this. It's

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like, it's not like some magic
bullet that AI is going to

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deliver. Or, you know, discovery
is going to deliver, you have to

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have a good product. That's the
thing that is rarely discussed

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without it. I mean, we saw this
cycle in blogging. Oh, yeah.

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Just start a blog make money.
Yeah, no, no, no, you have to

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build audience and and of
course, you know, by found that

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with podcasting, getting your
audience involved. If I was

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talking to a guy, very
interesting guy, he has a

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regenerative beef based dog
treats brand that He's

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launching. And, as well and I
actually met him in Bluffton,

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Georgia, when I went to a beef
initiative, mini meet up, you

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know, like those Texas slim
stuff. And that's a year or so

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ago. Yeah, in fact, I did the
show from there, I think. And so

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that's will Harris white oak
pastures very well known. A lot

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of people buy beef from him, he
has his own processing plant.

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And this I met this guy, and he
was and he was talking to will

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and will says, you know, this
guy's he's onto something here

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because they throw a lot of
strip meat away. And there's a

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lot of stuff that just doesn't
isn't sold to humans. And this

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guy took that and he's
processing it as in freeze

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drying, etc. And he's turning it
into hair, very healthy snacks

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for dogs. And so he he gets
through my filters somehow,

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maybe probably because I met him
and he comes out to

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Fredericksburg, which you know,
and he's from Colorado. So he

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flew to Austin. And he may have
had some other meetings, but he

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drives us on half drive. So I'll
meet with anybody who's really

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going to drive out to see me.
And oh, yeah, before too long is

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like hey, you know, can you get
me to Joe Rogan's? Oh, man,

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however, as we were talking, I
said, you know, man, I have a

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thought here. Why don't you if
there's something about this and

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this product specifically, and
it's a good product, I've tried

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it on Phoebe, she likes it. And
it's healthy. It's his Phoebe

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approved. I said, What if you
turn this on? It's on his head.

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Instead of going to podcast
buying CPMs you know, all the

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all the same old tired stuff for
buying a network run of network?

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Why don't you play me? Let

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Dave Jones: me let me let me
guess what I'm what you're gonna

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say, Okay. Instead of making
treats for dogs, you make treats

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for humans out of dogs?

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Adam Curry: Damn, that's my next
idea. That's a big one. I like

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that. Yes, it's called Soylent
Green for dogs? Exactly. Yes.

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Yes. No. I said, Why don't you
become the Podcast Network? Why

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not? Why don't you make your
brand, the podcast network, and

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you invite people in. And the
whole idea is, it's a social,

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it's a social thing, where the
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of these podcasters do stuff to
compete. And you know, you can

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do contests, you can, you know,
pretty dog picture, you name it,

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and flip it on its head. So you
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huge give me the biggest
podcasters that I can and don't

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buy ad reads. You know, they
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direct inquiry. So you track it.
If someone sells product, then

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great. Give them some stipend to
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get the get the lower ones that
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don't even know if downloads
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audiences and get a couple 1000
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doing now, it's a dead end. It's
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anywhere. Anyway, so that yeah,
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it's, you have a great product.
I think a great product is when

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to call producers for no agenda.
In this case, its board members,

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they're all there in the chat
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going on and on and on. I mean,
that's literal interaction,

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literal interaction with the
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about what we talked about last
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interact tag as the base layer
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between apps which is a fancy
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comments. The more I like it, we
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platform, that would be
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to you have to participate in
order to keep up. Because then

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all of a sudden, you know,
forget the comments part, I just

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I don't know what to eat, it
seems common seems like the

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easiest to implement, since
we've already done a lot of

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work. And I see it working on
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five stars likes all this stuff.
You know, now you have to go to

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Spotify, you have to be I guess
you can leave a star rating on

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in whatever app you're using,
and make that immediately ping

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across all the apps, all the
apps can start highlighting

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things that they see that they
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people that are listening to
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It's so powerful. I mean, I just
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how powerful we would be as a
group. And literally all you

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know, the tide lifts all the
boats in this case. Now we know

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Franco will never do it, but I'm
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Dave Jones: It's funny ESA, you
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having a thought I was just
trying to envision over the past

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few days, what a like a boost
verb would look like. And just,

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it could be anything, it could
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whatever. But I was just trying
to think of that in my head.

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you're not just following you
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you like a podcast.

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Adam Curry: Although I find that
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personally prefer to not confuse
booster grams with although How

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about if you just do to boost
verb and a streaming verb? Ie I

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stream 200 sets per minute, or I
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without the comment part. I'm
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two because I think that's very
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Dave Jones: Yeah, I mean, number
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so wrong to have a almost it's
as such as consistent discussion

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about activity pub every week
without a jingle to didn't

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delineate where this you know,
when we're doing this, and when

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we're not. We don't have any hot
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Adam Curry: Well, I do I do. I
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Dave Jones: That does help.
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Adam Curry: it it's not exactly
what we want. But it helps, it

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helps. It's close.

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Dave Jones: It's almost there.
It is. So number two, like, I

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think I chose the boost. In
mentally I think I chose boost

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for that reason, because it's a
little confusing, okay, because

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I was thumbing through this.
Yeah. And I was like, well lit.

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Why watch us the easy stuff like
a like, I mean, that's good. We

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already everybody knows how to
do all that already. But what

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would it? Because if you let me,
let me let me kind of reset

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here. I guess my thought is, if
if we're describing an activity

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pub vocabulary for things that
happen to interact with a when

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people or bots or whoever
interact with a podcast, or even

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when podcasts interact with
other podcasts, if we're

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describing a vocabulary of
specifically verbs? Will you

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have to think about which ones
will and will not work? So

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which, which of the things we do
now, when it comes to podcasts?

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or do any of those just not work
as verbs? And I was like, Okay,

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well, what do you what do you do
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podcast, you boost a podcast,
you download a podcast, I'm

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just, I mean, none of these.
Some of these don't apply, but

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I'm just thinking through all of
the things that or actions that

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you do to a podcast. And boost.
I'm like, Is that does that

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work? You know, just kind of
sitting through that. I'm like,

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Well, I don't know. I mean, what
would that what would that be?

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It's not like you can't send you
can't send sets through the

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message itself, but you could do
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a proof of payment, maybe well,
you know, I'm

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Adam Curry: I want something
that everybody can participate

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in and you don't. Okay, two
things. One is confusing. What

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is a comment? What is a play?
What is a boost? I understand

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what you're saying. But not
every app has V four V in it.

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And I don't want it to seem
like, well, I can't really

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participate because I don't have
boosts in my app. And it

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immediately makes people you
know, the detractors go, there.

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They are the crypto boys where I
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everybody gets comments, and we
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Dave Jones: I totally agree with
all this is not. We're not We're

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not on different sides here.
Okay. I guess the only reason I

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brought it up was because I
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right. I mean, the the anti
crypto stuff gets kicked up

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every time. But this really was
a first thought because I was

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thinking, do all of these things
that we do to podcast? Do these

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all work as activity pub because
I think we need to think through

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these things. And say, which,
which actions in which actions

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are actually usable as verbs in
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what I mean, no,

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Adam Curry: I understand what
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looking at from an activity pub
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what do you want to work on one
app that shows up on the other

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apps? The two things that I can
think of are comments and

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ratings, though, because
comments will become reviews

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kind of by themselves via a
review of an episode or review

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of a show, etc. Just whatever
someone comments is always it's

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always kind of a review, a
comment about about that

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particular entity, that item.
But imagine ratings of Matt, you

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know, maybe it's just, you know,
it's just a five star selection,

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whatever it is, it's the stuff
that people already do.

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podcasters are already saying,
hey, hey, would you please go

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over to Apple, and please leave
me a review and rate the

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podcast. I mean, this is this is
something that people already do

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and all the other ones. I mean,
it literally is this, it's blue

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sky, man blue sky all the way
for this. And here's what I was

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thinking just to move it along.
The I be happy, I don't know if

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this helps anybody. But I would
be happy to host an if I have to

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moderate IE, kickoff spammers to
set up an instance that the app

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devs can use. So they wouldn't
have to deal with this stuff.

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For people who don't have. You
know, for people who don't, who

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don't have an account on the, on
the fediverse your users who

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don't have an account, if you
need a quick sign up place for

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your users. And in essence,
you're thinking they never even

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see that because they're they're
looking, they don't even know

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that it's, you know, what's
happening in the background,

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they just need to surface it in
the app, I'm happy to host an

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instance. You know, you have a
separate invite link for your

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users. So you know, not not
everybody would try to keep the

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junk out of it. Basically. If,
if that's something that's

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needed to kickstart this, I'm
happy to do that. I know a lot

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about, you know, managing a
mastodon instance, if that would

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help to get it going. I'm happy
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makes any sense or not.

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Dave Jones: Yeah, no, it does, I
guess, at this part of me wants

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to say no, that we shouldn't did
that, that we shouldn't do that,

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because that's kind of a crutch,
okay? Because it's easy to just

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sort of offload some of these
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then you end up with you know,
with a single point of failure,

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and a lot of depend a lot of
dependency. And whereas if this

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thing, if this idea is going to
work, in general, and the idea

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being a marriage of activity,
pub and podcast and RSS based

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podcasting, it really needs to
work from the beat from the very

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beginning, where everybody is
doing. Everybody is

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participating as an actor fully
right up within their own, you

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know, it doesn't mean there
can't be helper services that do

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a look that come along and say,
Okay, well, I'm going to use

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this service me. Here's, I'm
afraid of becoming dependent on

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us on a central third party
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gonna be dependent upon Alby

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Adam Curry: I'm with you, I got
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So. So let me say this, then,
let me say this about that. If

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you If, I mean, the main thing
that that developers always

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need, this is what I learned
early on, developers always need

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stuff to be flowing through it.
It's very tough. If you know

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like, I'm gonna build all this
great podcast stuff, but there's

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nothing really out there that's
publishing it, which

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Dave Jones: is why write to a
spec in a vacuum. Exactly.

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Adam Curry: The no agenda show
has been publishing socially

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interact tags, since its
inception, almost since its

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inception. In fact, I think we
incepted part of it, every

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podcast that I do this one as
well, but the no agenda show is

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a big podcast. And, and
1000s 1000s of very active

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listeners, post comments, when I
post the social interact route

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post, you can see that at
podcast index.org, and it

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threads beautifully, and it
works beautifully. So out of the

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gate and beyond, I would promote
any apps that are doing this, if

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you if you're putting that in
there, you're on high rotation

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Dave Jones: Oh, high rotation?

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Adam Curry: Yeah, of course. You
know, I will promote the crap

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out of your apps to make sure
that people use it. And I'll say

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check this out. And you can also
see it on that. I mean, I will

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do everything I can to move this
forward. Because it is it is

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good for everybody. It is
something that that the big the

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so called big players won't be
able to participate in. They

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can't. But it is such a huge,
unique selling proposition for

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the independent apps. And let's
face it, the apps are coming to

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where we are we've got Pocket
Casts now saying that they're

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going to implement the the
chapters.

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Dave Jones: That was a big Yeah,
I was super excited to see them

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actually doing some movement.

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Adam Curry: From what I
understand pod bean of all pod

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bean is now implementing value
for value with with streaming

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SATs. This has happened to get
people this has happened.

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Dave Jones: And there's another
there's another person that I've

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been talking to that you know
about that we can't really

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discuss yet that is also doing
some pretty cool stuff. We're

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about to release some pretty
cool stuff with chapters.

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There's Yeah, it's okay Todd
there's motion.

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Adam Curry: But also value for
value music is catching on,

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artists are starting to
understand what's happening.

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They're starting to see payments
showing up in their in their

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wallets. And it says you know,
you got this from booster gram

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ball or homegrown hits and, and
they're starting to they don't

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really understand what's going
on. And by the way, thank you

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Chad F is one of the people who
promotes the heck out of that,

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you know, a lot of these artists
are kind of stuck on noster. And

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they're like looking for zaps.
And they you know, they don't

430
00:27:50,369 --> 00:27:53,009
know what's going on. It takes a
while to wrap your head around

431
00:27:53,009 --> 00:27:56,429
this stuff. And now they're
starting to say well wait, hold

432
00:27:56,429 --> 00:27:59,939
on a second. This is coming from
a musical me he listened to the

433
00:27:59,939 --> 00:28:02,999
show, and they're telling other
artists exactly the way it

434
00:28:02,999 --> 00:28:07,709
should work. This stuff is
happening is happening. And now.

435
00:28:08,429 --> 00:28:12,269
It's it's a bit by bit and then
all of a sudden that you'll see

436
00:28:12,419 --> 00:28:16,199
it starts to snowball, and it
goes real fast. Particularly

437
00:28:16,199 --> 00:28:19,259
when people start paying
attention to the namespace. What

438
00:28:19,259 --> 00:28:22,589
else is in there? Developers
love this stuff. Oh, what else?

439
00:28:22,589 --> 00:28:26,309
What else is in that? In that
namespace spec? I know that's

440
00:28:26,309 --> 00:28:29,939
how it works. Oh, this cotton
This people are publishing

441
00:28:29,939 --> 00:28:33,839
content by the hundreds of 1000s
Oh, well. Let me add that to our

442
00:28:33,839 --> 00:28:37,829
app as well. It's inevitable. So
it's all really really good. I

443
00:28:37,829 --> 00:28:43,049
would just like to stay one step
ahead. And get everybody ready

444
00:28:43,049 --> 00:28:49,769
because most of the activity pub
I'm sold on it I mean I am so so

445
00:28:49,769 --> 00:28:52,859
it took me a while but I'm so
this is this is the way forward.

446
00:28:52,889 --> 00:28:56,819
It's beautiful. And I understand
it's daunting and it's

447
00:28:56,819 --> 00:28:59,879
confusing, but it's worth
spending a weekend just diving

448
00:28:59,879 --> 00:29:04,319
in and see if you can figure out
how it works in your framework

449
00:29:04,349 --> 00:29:06,659
in your in your application.

450
00:29:07,290 --> 00:29:10,920
Dave Jones: Yeah, we're we're
gonna have we're gonna have Sam

451
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,560
on and I'm sure you'll have a
lot of ideas about this too and

452
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:22,770
then as soon but I just I want
there to be I guess the reason

453
00:29:22,770 --> 00:29:27,570
I'm thinking this through so
much and is that you could end

454
00:29:27,570 --> 00:29:30,450
up if you don't if you're not
careful, you could end up with

455
00:29:30,450 --> 00:29:35,610
like a chair you could end up
with like chair pants. Have you

456
00:29:35,610 --> 00:29:36,360
seen chair pan?

457
00:29:36,539 --> 00:29:40,049
Adam Curry: No. To explain chair
pants. Chair

458
00:29:40,049 --> 00:29:43,949
Dave Jones: pants are like these
stupid pants that are have like

459
00:29:43,949 --> 00:29:48,269
a frame built into them where
you can just basically at any

460
00:29:48,269 --> 00:29:51,269
moment you can just sit down and
it becomes

461
00:29:51,599 --> 00:29:55,739
Adam Curry: Yes, yes. Okay. No,
I think we're gonna have 100,000

462
00:29:55,739 --> 00:29:58,439
of them in Fredericksburg for
the Eclipse. Yes.

463
00:29:59,549 --> 00:30:04,289
Dave Jones: It's It's like, it's
a does it? Does it function?

464
00:30:04,319 --> 00:30:09,599
Yes. Is it a good idea? No, it's
dumb. Right? So like, there's a,

465
00:30:09,779 --> 00:30:12,719
there's this point you get to, I
get to this point in the with

466
00:30:12,719 --> 00:30:17,429
the activity pub bridge, where I
was like, Okay, I was like,

467
00:30:17,459 --> 00:30:19,739
alright, alright, I got, what do
you want to do you want to

468
00:30:19,739 --> 00:30:27,299
follow? Okay, got that. You want
to get notified? You know, which

469
00:30:27,299 --> 00:30:29,639
is getting notified of new
episodes. Alright, guys got

470
00:30:29,639 --> 00:30:36,359
that. Am I okay? What else? I
don't know.

471
00:30:37,589 --> 00:30:41,189
Adam Curry: I could couldn't Oh,
no, I think of Oh, yeah, no, I

472
00:30:41,189 --> 00:30:44,219
think I think there's plenty.
And, you know, it's almost like

473
00:30:44,219 --> 00:30:46,589
the hashtag. You know, the
hashtag wasn't invented by

474
00:30:46,589 --> 00:30:49,319
Twitter. The hashtag was
invented by the users of

475
00:30:49,319 --> 00:30:53,279
Twitter. Yeah. So these things
will present themselves, I

476
00:30:53,279 --> 00:30:53,549
think.

477
00:30:54,299 --> 00:30:56,729
Dave Jones: Because, because I
can think I could think up like

478
00:30:56,729 --> 00:30:59,459
10 or 12 different things in a
minute. And they were all like,

479
00:30:59,729 --> 00:31:04,469
less goofy. I mean, like, yeah,
it would work. But nobody's this

480
00:31:04,469 --> 00:31:08,129
is gonna be like this little
thing that nobody cares about.

481
00:31:08,129 --> 00:31:12,629
And I just don't want a bunch
of, I just don't want to bundle

482
00:31:12,659 --> 00:31:15,419
a bunch of cheer pants running
around the podcast. We're in a

483
00:31:15,419 --> 00:31:18,689
2.0 world where everybody's
like, yeah, that's weird.

484
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,150
Adam Curry: Well, comments are
not weird.

485
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,290
Dave Jones: No, no. And then we
and we, that already works.

486
00:31:25,950 --> 00:31:26,250
Right?

487
00:31:26,250 --> 00:31:29,820
Adam Curry: But I still have
we're three years later. And I'm

488
00:31:29,820 --> 00:31:32,760
still pleading. And I think
we've solved most of the issues,

489
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:37,530
the users are there, the
moderation is there. The quote

490
00:31:37,530 --> 00:31:40,770
unquote, control is there, the
infrastructure is there, the

491
00:31:40,770 --> 00:31:44,340
infrastructure has been tested.
It's been stress tested, more

492
00:31:44,340 --> 00:31:50,700
and more. platforms and devices
and things are being connected

493
00:31:50,700 --> 00:31:55,680
to the fediverse. It's an
obvious place for podcasting to

494
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,840
be and no one else can do it.
But us.

495
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:06,090
Dave Jones: I mean, it's, it's
there, he gave some that people

496
00:32:06,090 --> 00:32:09,330
just have added developers just
got to get to the point where I

497
00:32:09,330 --> 00:32:12,150
guess where they ran, where they
don't have more important things

498
00:32:12,150 --> 00:32:14,280
on their list. And they didn't
do that. I guess. I don't know.

499
00:32:14,340 --> 00:32:16,470
I don't know. I don't know what

500
00:32:17,070 --> 00:32:17,790
Adam Curry: defeatist

501
00:32:19,500 --> 00:32:22,260
Dave Jones: is, but I don't know
what there's nothing else to do.

502
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,910
You know, what I mean, with with
the comments, like comments is,

503
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:32,310
it's just, it's right there. I
can't like we can't make people

504
00:32:32,310 --> 00:32:34,050
do it. That's the that's the

505
00:32:34,050 --> 00:32:36,510
Adam Curry: thing. Oh, I know,
all the tech is there, right.

506
00:32:36,510 --> 00:32:40,110
But that's why I'll just keep
talking about it. It's the

507
00:32:40,140 --> 00:32:43,590
Dave Jones: easiest one, it's
the easiest part. Because

508
00:32:43,620 --> 00:32:46,320
because it's all you don't
there's no you don't have to do

509
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,260
new activity pub objects. You
don't have to get standard us

510
00:32:49,260 --> 00:32:53,160
some new schema. All the
comments are just like the

511
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:59,790
ability to post a note object
with activity Pub is so simple.

512
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,790
There's not even a following
that has to happen. I mean, you

513
00:33:02,790 --> 00:33:08,100
just posted it's just like so
easy in there. Nobody's doing

514
00:33:08,730 --> 00:33:12,510
this. I don't know. Well,

515
00:33:13,020 --> 00:33:15,450
Adam Curry: there you go. That's
it. Well, I was very excited.

516
00:33:15,450 --> 00:33:16,770
Now I'm just all depressed.

517
00:33:17,220 --> 00:33:19,470
Dave Jones: I just crapped all
over everything. I'm sorry.

518
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,390
Adam Curry: Okay, these pupils
are driving me crazy. We have to

519
00:33:24,390 --> 00:33:29,100
explain what's going on there is
our guest today is so famous. He

520
00:33:29,100 --> 00:33:32,460
basically has a one night he
goes by one name like Madonna or

521
00:33:32,460 --> 00:33:35,550
prince. He is the prince of
podcasting. The Prince of

522
00:33:35,550 --> 00:33:38,400
podcasts music ladies and
gentlemen. We'd like to welcome

523
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,610
to the boardroom. The one the
only you've heard of him you've

524
00:33:41,610 --> 00:33:45,780
never will have you really heard
him his voice my Yeah, but this

525
00:33:45,780 --> 00:33:48,960
is the first time in the
boardroom. Please say hello to

526
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,070
blueberry.

527
00:33:50,549 --> 00:33:53,339
Boobury: If you want to get
really technical it is it's a

528
00:33:53,339 --> 00:33:57,059
Sobey blueberry moth man at the
mini pocalypse freak of Hazzard

529
00:33:57,059 --> 00:33:58,409
in the horror of Yag

530
00:33:58,769 --> 00:34:00,629
Adam Curry: now there's a show
title for you right there

531
00:34:02,910 --> 00:34:08,010
Dave Jones: it wasn't my
character limit blueberry was

532
00:34:08,010 --> 00:34:09,660
what what what

533
00:34:09,659 --> 00:34:12,569
Adam Curry: are you on on ring
today? Yeah, why are we hearing

534
00:34:12,569 --> 00:34:15,899
all these these sounds and stuff
what exactly is going on in the

535
00:34:15,899 --> 00:34:16,799
background here?

536
00:34:16,950 --> 00:34:19,710
Boobury: I'm pretty sure that's
coming from Dave if he's got the

537
00:34:19,710 --> 00:34:22,740
booth scoreboard open he would
need to mute that now it's

538
00:34:22,739 --> 00:34:25,499
Adam Curry: me I have it open I
have it open but

539
00:34:25,499 --> 00:34:28,169
Boobury: it's still it's still
playing the pews sound because

540
00:34:28,169 --> 00:34:32,249
I've got pretty much everything
on lockdown except for IR off

541
00:34:32,249 --> 00:34:35,219
any tests and stuff like in the
in the

542
00:34:35,939 --> 00:34:38,339
Dave Jones: back in a me because
my stuff can't come back through

543
00:34:38,339 --> 00:34:41,249
the streams. No, I'm deficient.

544
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:46,410
Adam Curry: I have I have the
scoreboard open here and then I

545
00:34:46,410 --> 00:34:50,550
haven't heard any other sounds
and the pew pew I don't know. I

546
00:34:50,550 --> 00:34:54,360
don't know why should it be
should I be getting other

547
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:54,870
sounds?

548
00:34:54,899 --> 00:34:56,969
Boobury: I don't know how half
this stuff works. Okay.

549
00:34:58,679 --> 00:35:01,529
Dave Jones: All right. Well,
maybe we should tell everybody

550
00:35:01,529 --> 00:35:04,469
where to go though if they want
to follow along, right? This

551
00:35:05,189 --> 00:35:05,699
would

552
00:35:06,359 --> 00:35:12,479
Boobury: it scoreboard dash beta
dash flax dot versal dot app. Is

553
00:35:12,479 --> 00:35:17,159
the scoreboard that Eric PP is
coded up for us. Why

554
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,590
Adam Curry: don't you open up
your open up your sounds?

555
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,050
Boobury: I do have a moment.

556
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,830
Adam Curry: All I'm hearing is
peers. I'm not hearing the crazy

557
00:35:25,830 --> 00:35:29,340
now I'm going to close mine. I'm
pretty sure because what's

558
00:35:29,340 --> 00:35:33,600
happening what I understand is
that the way this is all rigged

559
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,980
up, and of course I have
blueberry, there you go. That's

560
00:35:37,980 --> 00:35:42,900
the first time I heard. Can you
lower the level just a little

561
00:35:42,900 --> 00:35:50,040
bit though? Oh, yeah, I gotcha.
Is, is he has has I don't know

562
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:54,450
who but what's been rigged up is
a boosting scoreboard. So

563
00:35:54,450 --> 00:35:59,250
imagine you're looking at
asteroids or space invaders and

564
00:35:59,250 --> 00:35:59,550
you're kind of

565
00:35:59,549 --> 00:36:03,509
Boobury: like Galaga Galaga was
the inspiration for it. So as

566
00:36:03,509 --> 00:36:07,139
far as like the star pixels in
the background, the red and

567
00:36:07,349 --> 00:36:08,969
yellow, cyan and white.

568
00:36:09,269 --> 00:36:12,839
Adam Curry: So it's a public.
It's a public page that shows

569
00:36:12,869 --> 00:36:18,389
who is boosting. If you boost
special amounts, it triggers a

570
00:36:18,389 --> 00:36:24,509
special sound. Which and I don't
know what they are, but we'll

571
00:36:24,509 --> 00:36:29,039
hear them as as we move along.
And then it so right now it just

572
00:36:29,039 --> 00:36:32,699
said Dobie das boosted 5000 SATs
from fountain I want to be on

573
00:36:32,699 --> 00:36:36,629
the scoreboard. So that just
popped up on the screen. And

574
00:36:36,659 --> 00:36:40,829
then it goes back to the to the
it's like a top score. And the

575
00:36:40,829 --> 00:36:44,009
app that apps that have that
have been boosted from it's a

576
00:36:44,009 --> 00:36:47,489
beautiful idea. i This is so
cool to watch.

577
00:36:48,449 --> 00:36:51,749
Boobury: Yeah, pretty much just
threw together a mock up in

578
00:36:51,749 --> 00:36:55,169
Photoshop and send it out to a
couple of people to see if

579
00:36:55,169 --> 00:36:58,079
there's anybody that'd be
willing to get it coded up for

580
00:36:58,079 --> 00:37:02,009
us. And we're actually planning
on projecting that at the venue

581
00:37:02,009 --> 00:37:03,869
tomorrow on the wall. Okay,

582
00:37:03,870 --> 00:37:05,820
Adam Curry: so first, tell us a
little bit about yourself, man

583
00:37:05,820 --> 00:37:07,950
to people to give us your
background how you got involved

584
00:37:07,950 --> 00:37:12,000
in 2.0 in the music stuff, so we
just have so people who are just

585
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,940
tuning in don't think what what
what have I fallen into?

586
00:37:16,110 --> 00:37:21,060
Boobury: Ah, well, back in 2010,
started going to college for

587
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:26,460
theater. And then graduated,
started touring did Disney on

588
00:37:26,460 --> 00:37:28,560
Ice for a couple of years works
in theme park.

589
00:37:28,890 --> 00:37:31,470
Adam Curry: Now were you skating
or did you do other things?

590
00:37:33,510 --> 00:37:36,750
Boobury: No, I was an
electrician for the for the

591
00:37:36,750 --> 00:37:37,170
tour.

592
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:38,670
Adam Curry: Okay. All right.
That would be

593
00:37:38,670 --> 00:37:39,450
Boobury: a pretty funny sight,

594
00:37:39,449 --> 00:37:42,629
Adam Curry: but I don't know. I
mean, I think everybody knows.

595
00:37:43,379 --> 00:37:43,889
Okay,

596
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,040
Boobury: I'm finally figuring
out what's going on here. IR

597
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,280
cacophony is only set up the
trigger based off of the behind

598
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:54,360
the schemes feed. So that's why
names goat wasn't coming through

599
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,870
earlier because he's boosted
podcasting. 2.0 Okay, you have

600
00:37:57,870 --> 00:37:58,140
now

601
00:37:58,140 --> 00:38:02,610
Dave Jones: so many scissors
flying around. Now a mound of

602
00:38:02,610 --> 00:38:03,480
scissors. Yes.

603
00:38:03,510 --> 00:38:05,370
Boobury: Have You Ever Have you
ever wondered what it looks like

604
00:38:05,370 --> 00:38:07,890
to tie scissors to a ceiling
fan?

605
00:38:11,130 --> 00:38:14,100
Adam Curry: Ever wondered. But I
can see how it feels like it

606
00:38:14,100 --> 00:38:18,060
right now. Yes, yes. Okay, I got
I got it. So

607
00:38:18,060 --> 00:38:20,940
Boobury: yeah, if if you want to
play with the IR cacophony, just

608
00:38:20,940 --> 00:38:25,590
boost the live podcast and 2.0
episode that's on the behind the

609
00:38:25,590 --> 00:38:26,370
scheme's feed.

610
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,880
Adam Curry: Okay, I got you.
That's why, okay, I see.

611
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,440
Boobury: So I did the theme park
gigs, and right

612
00:38:34,439 --> 00:38:36,779
Adam Curry: after all, as an
electrician role.

613
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:42,000
Boobury: It's been, I mostly
work as electrician Carpenter,

614
00:38:42,030 --> 00:38:44,640
but I can do a lot of different
stuff. It really just depends on

615
00:38:44,670 --> 00:38:46,320
what's required for the gig, you
know,

616
00:38:46,770 --> 00:38:48,810
Dave Jones: theater, just
general theater tech stuff

617
00:38:48,810 --> 00:38:51,150
across the board, entertainment
production.

618
00:38:51,179 --> 00:38:54,059
Boobury: It's, you know, if I
need to go climb a tree, that's

619
00:38:54,059 --> 00:38:56,669
what I was actually doing. When
I kind of fell into the

620
00:38:56,669 --> 00:39:00,149
knowledge industry. I was up in
a tree in El Paso wrapping

621
00:39:00,209 --> 00:39:04,109
Christmas lights around it
because I didn't have a job on

622
00:39:04,109 --> 00:39:06,119
account with a Rona. Oh,

623
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,030
Dave Jones: okay. All right,
right, because you were on tour

624
00:39:09,060 --> 00:39:10,140
you were on tour with.

625
00:39:11,250 --> 00:39:16,230
Boobury: Yeah, so in 2000 That
would have been 2014 started

626
00:39:16,470 --> 00:39:19,980
picking up Broadway tours as a
system electrician did some

627
00:39:20,010 --> 00:39:25,950
brake work as a props guy. And
just rock that from 2014 all the

628
00:39:25,950 --> 00:39:30,090
way up to 2020. In between, I'd
work like there's a production

629
00:39:30,090 --> 00:39:33,870
company here in town that does a
festival and concert setup,

630
00:39:33,900 --> 00:39:37,680
stuff like that. And I would
work them during the summer and

631
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:42,060
then go out and tour during the
winter and fall and whatnot. And

632
00:39:42,510 --> 00:39:47,460
2020 is kind of when it was it
was actually 2019 That summer,

633
00:39:47,460 --> 00:39:50,610
maybe fall is probably around
the time of that Easter egg

634
00:39:50,850 --> 00:39:52,710
flare up in the news. Oh yeah,

635
00:39:52,740 --> 00:39:57,030
Adam Curry: that's that was the
real death. Death by vape. Yeah,

636
00:39:57,060 --> 00:40:00,870
we got those bogus carta bogus
THC cards. Just from China,

637
00:40:00,900 --> 00:40:02,910
because I know what really
happened, you know, I was like,

638
00:40:02,940 --> 00:40:05,100
Oh, you're all gonna die from
vaping Well, I'm still I've

639
00:40:05,100 --> 00:40:08,220
never vape more in my life. And
this past year, I'm still here.

640
00:40:09,540 --> 00:40:11,850
Boobury: And it was about that
time that I found the new agenda

641
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,930
podcast, I don't even know where
I stumbled across it. It was

642
00:40:15,930 --> 00:40:21,900
maybe a comment here in some
last thread, I'm not sure. And I

643
00:40:21,900 --> 00:40:25,050
was listening to that. That was
pretty fortuitous timing, given

644
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:29,250
what 2020 was gonna bring. And I
was on top of a ladder doing a

645
00:40:29,250 --> 00:40:33,150
big lamp changeover for our
entire rig and Ottawa and we got

646
00:40:33,150 --> 00:40:35,790
the news. Oh, yeah. Theater is
going to shut down for the

647
00:40:35,790 --> 00:40:39,000
weekend. Wow, I never I never
got to see all those lamps fire

648
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:43,140
on it was like $1,500 worth of
lamps to buy.

649
00:40:44,909 --> 00:40:46,379
Dave Jones: Okay, sound also,

650
00:40:47,340 --> 00:40:50,160
Boobury: I you know, funny
enough audio is probably my

651
00:40:50,190 --> 00:40:52,710
weakest point in terms of
production.

652
00:40:54,030 --> 00:40:55,950
Dave Jones: All right, you said
you toured with somebody doing

653
00:40:55,950 --> 00:40:56,670
sound but I'm

654
00:40:57,810 --> 00:41:02,400
Boobury: just in terms of like,
being a swing technician, you

655
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:06,450
know, you can kind of fall into
that place of like helping audio

656
00:41:06,450 --> 00:41:11,280
guys out. But if you need me to,
like tune a room, that I am not

657
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,520
your guy, you want me to run
cable? I got you no problem.

658
00:41:15,510 --> 00:41:18,390
Adam Curry: So okay, so
everything shut down. And then

659
00:41:18,420 --> 00:41:20,850
how did you find out about
podcasting? 2.0

660
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:27,270
Boobury: That was the pandemic
hobby was starting a podcast and

661
00:41:27,330 --> 00:41:30,300
out the gate. I mean, if you go
online trying to find

662
00:41:30,300 --> 00:41:34,320
information about how to start a
podcast, it's go to pod bean,

663
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:35,910
get yourself a Blue Yeti.

664
00:41:38,070 --> 00:41:41,520
Adam Curry: Ah, yes, champions
right there. point

665
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,100
Boobury: point the Blue Yeti
directly into your mouth like

666
00:41:44,130 --> 00:41:46,860
you would any other mic, you
know, not standing straight up

667
00:41:46,890 --> 00:41:53,370
anyways. And, you know, I have
to give a huge shout out a big

668
00:41:53,370 --> 00:41:58,170
plus plus to avoid zero. And
Darren No. This is both of their

669
00:41:58,170 --> 00:42:01,590
faults that we're talking right
now. Because I made the fatal

670
00:42:01,590 --> 00:42:06,900
mistake one day of getting into
the troll room guy, and that'll

671
00:42:06,900 --> 00:42:11,070
be there. Yeah, from there it
was. He knows such like, an

672
00:42:11,070 --> 00:42:16,110
insignificant thing, considering
where we've all come but there's

673
00:42:16,110 --> 00:42:21,270
like this real test to getting
voiced in the troll room.

674
00:42:21,300 --> 00:42:24,060
Because I never messed with IRC
before. I don't know what half

675
00:42:24,060 --> 00:42:28,230
of this stuff meant. I still
don't. But you know, it just it.

676
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:33,510
It made you wanted to figure it
out. Because I want to you know,

677
00:42:33,510 --> 00:42:35,520
I want to see what all these
people are doing. I want to talk

678
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,950
with them. This sounds really
cool the Rock and Roll pre show.

679
00:42:37,950 --> 00:42:41,880
I mean, that's, that's the thing
that really got me involved in

680
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,940
the chats and whatnot is just
submitting songs that Dario

681
00:42:45,570 --> 00:42:49,020
finding out about grumpy old
Ben's finding about bowl after

682
00:42:49,020 --> 00:42:51,900
bowl and rare encounter, and
Nick, the rat and hogs story and

683
00:42:51,900 --> 00:42:54,180
just from there that like
that's, that became the rest of

684
00:42:54,180 --> 00:43:00,870
my year. And I cannot recommend
enough if anybody that hears

685
00:43:00,870 --> 00:43:05,070
this is ever wanting to start
their own sort of show, zero

686
00:43:05,070 --> 00:43:11,580
node is the place to go. Because
you've got a bevy of people that

687
00:43:11,850 --> 00:43:15,750
have already been through these
steps. And the information flows

688
00:43:15,930 --> 00:43:20,940
freely. Yeah. And it is just it
is such a beautiful Rube

689
00:43:20,940 --> 00:43:26,850
Goldberg machines between isobar
between gal, between, you know,

690
00:43:26,850 --> 00:43:30,480
all of the booths triggers,
it's, it's really a phenomenal

691
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:34,590
place. And that's, you know,
that's kind of I've just been

692
00:43:34,590 --> 00:43:39,540
hanging out in the troll room in
the various channels since 2020.

693
00:43:39,540 --> 00:43:42,240
I still remember standing in the
HyVee parking lot going to get

694
00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:46,650
groceries catching up on a
episode of no agenda. And you

695
00:43:46,650 --> 00:43:49,830
Adam were talking about he had
this really cool idea about how

696
00:43:49,830 --> 00:43:51,930
to change podcasts. And I was
like, oh, that sounds

697
00:43:51,930 --> 00:43:56,910
interesting. And I was a little
late to the party. If it I

698
00:43:56,910 --> 00:44:02,400
didn't really like get the bug
until sir Spencer and I had done

699
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:06,300
we used to do a show called
misinformed nation, which being

700
00:44:06,810 --> 00:44:09,810
the intent was we would you
know, was supposed to be like a

701
00:44:09,810 --> 00:44:15,510
no like a biweekly no agenda
stream review type of show where

702
00:44:15,510 --> 00:44:19,320
you have this rotating cast of
podcasters that would just be

703
00:44:19,350 --> 00:44:22,830
bring clips of things that they
had, you know, cut their

704
00:44:22,860 --> 00:44:25,320
attention that they thought were
interesting or something that

705
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,930
they wanted to critique, you
know, not a straight up like,

706
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:31,020
Oh, we're gonna bash the
EverLiving snot out of the show

707
00:44:31,020 --> 00:44:35,640
or anything like that. It was
mostly just like, we're gonna

708
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,890
meet up and talk about what
we're listening to and if

709
00:44:37,890 --> 00:44:39,960
there's any good
recommendations, and he had

710
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,350
brought podcasts and 2.0 and we
talked pretty thoroughly about

711
00:44:43,350 --> 00:44:47,550
it, and from there it was
probably episode 1718 And I

712
00:44:47,550 --> 00:44:50,790
mean, I'd never bought Bitcoin
before I had never messed with

713
00:44:50,790 --> 00:44:55,320
an RSS feed. We started on pod
bean and we migrated to pod

714
00:44:55,320 --> 00:45:00,450
surf.fm which is a very
reasonably price, sir service

715
00:45:00,450 --> 00:45:03,990
and I would recommend them as a
host. If anybody's looking for

716
00:45:03,990 --> 00:45:06,300
somebody out there, we're
probably going to be

717
00:45:06,300 --> 00:45:11,850
transitioning. Because I offer
them just because I want to get

718
00:45:11,850 --> 00:45:18,060
to a point where we don't have
to touch to RSS feeds two times.

719
00:45:18,270 --> 00:45:18,840
Every Monday

720
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:23,190
Adam Curry: night. Yeah. Yeah,
that gets old. It does. So,

721
00:45:23,370 --> 00:45:27,600
okay, so then value for value
music comes along, and you're

722
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,230
already right in the middle of
it. And so how do you jump in?

723
00:45:32,460 --> 00:45:35,940
Boobury: I mostly I just I had a
collection of my dad's tracks.

724
00:45:35,940 --> 00:45:38,010
It's the climbing the mountain
you can find it It's a

725
00:45:38,010 --> 00:45:45,060
compilation on podcasts and 2.0
and my original co host Malikai.

726
00:45:45,060 --> 00:45:48,990
We'd actually started out with
three guys. But Malikai is also

727
00:45:48,990 --> 00:45:52,980
a pretty prolific Oh my God,
what's the word prolific,

728
00:45:53,730 --> 00:45:58,590
prolific musician, and he had
had a sizable catalogue. So I

729
00:45:58,590 --> 00:46:01,950
had, you know, both of these two
artists like the rusty gates,

730
00:46:01,980 --> 00:46:07,200
the Rainmaker. $2 hauler. You
know, that's all.

731
00:46:08,250 --> 00:46:10,320
Adam Curry: Rusty gates, I think
was one of the there's not the

732
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,170
first track we played on
podcasting. 2.0. It

733
00:46:13,169 --> 00:46:15,029
Boobury: would have been the
second I think you started with

734
00:46:15,029 --> 00:46:16,229
just Oh, that's right. Joe

735
00:46:16,230 --> 00:46:17,910
Adam Curry: Martin. Right. Then
went right to Gates was the

736
00:46:17,910 --> 00:46:18,600
second right.

737
00:46:20,130 --> 00:46:25,770
Boobury: girl like me? Yeah. So
I had these all this music that

738
00:46:25,770 --> 00:46:27,870
you know, we've been playing
this music forever on the show.

739
00:46:27,870 --> 00:46:33,030
We have. Maybe since the 20s. On
BTS, we've been playing 15

740
00:46:33,030 --> 00:46:37,650
minute long intermissions every
single week, which Fun fact,

741
00:46:37,650 --> 00:46:41,280
when you have 100 plus of those
intermissions saved up you can

742
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,730
just throw them onto a ice cast
stream and we haven't like

743
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,700
incident radio station in a box.
Just add water and shake.

744
00:46:48,149 --> 00:46:49,649
Dave Jones: Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

745
00:46:51,630 --> 00:46:54,120
Boobury: You know, all of that
was Free Music Archive stuff,

746
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,210
you know, CC BY. And we're
actually kind of in a in a

747
00:46:57,210 --> 00:47:00,540
conundrum, because I don't know
how we can put the new

748
00:47:00,540 --> 00:47:04,080
intermissions that have the VTS
is in them on a stream and

749
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,920
actually have those be boost
double. I would definitely love

750
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,080
to be able to do that where you
have something like the no

751
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,590
agenda stream just broadcasts
and well actually,

752
00:47:13,650 --> 00:47:17,520
Adam Curry: I think that the
split kit has a mechanism for

753
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:21,540
that, but you have to use the
Split kit as the playout. But it

754
00:47:21,540 --> 00:47:24,930
does work. I've experimented
with that you can put in an

755
00:47:24,930 --> 00:47:28,530
entire music show and it will
just it will sucking all of the

756
00:47:28,530 --> 00:47:32,400
value time splits and little add
them in to the to the live

757
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,470
stream. Okay,

758
00:47:34,529 --> 00:47:36,359
so they have not had a way to do
it. Yeah,

759
00:47:36,390 --> 00:47:39,060
Boobury: I hadn't. I'd heard
rumblings about that I hadn't

760
00:47:39,060 --> 00:47:40,680
had a chance to play with. So

761
00:47:40,860 --> 00:47:43,500
Dave Jones: I'm looking at your
feed move. Marina says you're he

762
00:47:43,500 --> 00:47:47,040
said you're on pod surf, but I
don't but your feed shows

763
00:47:47,070 --> 00:47:48,120
sovereign feeds.

764
00:47:50,909 --> 00:47:56,129
Boobury: That's because every
Monday I upload BTS and before

765
00:47:56,129 --> 00:48:00,059
the schemes to pod surf, I take
the feed that they generate, and

766
00:48:00,059 --> 00:48:04,139
I hack away at it by hands. And
then that's

767
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,320
Adam Curry: rough brother that's
very rough. Every

768
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,540
Boobury: month, every Monday
night when we sit down kick the

769
00:48:12,540 --> 00:48:18,180
stream on 830 It's probably for
435 o'clock by the time we walk

770
00:48:18,180 --> 00:48:22,350
away because we we do episodes
back to back and then we post

771
00:48:22,350 --> 00:48:25,230
produce both episodes back to
back with all of the new chapter

772
00:48:25,230 --> 00:48:29,220
art, all the value time splits
everything just you know, get it

773
00:48:29,220 --> 00:48:36,270
done, rip that band aid off. So
then I think oh, the music. Yes,

774
00:48:36,300 --> 00:48:39,120
Adam Curry: I think you really
you really came into the picture

775
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,180
and started to shine really big
besides the behind the schemes

776
00:48:42,180 --> 00:48:47,190
work with with the Ainsley
Costello just loud concert,

777
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:52,230
because you were basically boots
on the ground for everybody. You

778
00:48:52,230 --> 00:48:54,870
were pulling stuff together,
there's the way it felt to me.

779
00:48:55,500 --> 00:48:59,460
Boobury: So backing up just a
little bit. Right after the

780
00:48:59,460 --> 00:49:03,270
value time splits were debuted
on podcast 2.0 We immediately

781
00:49:03,300 --> 00:49:05,250
threw them into our feed. That's
something that we had been

782
00:49:05,250 --> 00:49:10,260
waiting for forever. Even back
when David joined us on episode

783
00:49:10,260 --> 00:49:14,760
101. We made sure to include all
of the musician wallets for the

784
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,360
intermission. So this is
something I've been like frothy

785
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:25,440
about and during that fall, we
just started the Thunder Road

786
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:29,070
dot media website and we were
working with musicians getting

787
00:49:29,070 --> 00:49:32,790
their mp3 uploaded onto the
website building feeds or the

788
00:49:32,790 --> 00:49:36,870
music music side project. We're
up to 80 plus feeds right now.

789
00:49:36,930 --> 00:49:40,950
Wow. And yeah, and you know,
it's just, it's just something

790
00:49:40,950 --> 00:49:44,070
that I want to do because I want
to be able to play all this

791
00:49:44,070 --> 00:49:50,130
killer music. And I had heard
that Ainsley especially with

792
00:49:50,130 --> 00:49:55,290
given all the the hype around
the podcasts and to porno debuts

793
00:49:55,290 --> 00:49:58,950
that you were playing for her
for and I saw that they were

794
00:49:58,950 --> 00:50:02,370
going to be doing this concert
Are and you know, first avenue

795
00:50:02,370 --> 00:50:05,190
is spitting distance, basically,
it's like 20 minutes or

796
00:50:05,220 --> 00:50:09,210
whatever. And I just reached out
and I said, hey, hey, now I've

797
00:50:09,210 --> 00:50:16,020
got production entertainment,
background of 10 plus years, I'd

798
00:50:16,020 --> 00:50:21,270
love to be of assistance. And,
you know, basically it was

799
00:50:21,270 --> 00:50:26,310
trying to zip up. Because from
what I understand, I don't

800
00:50:26,310 --> 00:50:29,730
necessarily want to speak too
far into this because I am a

801
00:50:29,730 --> 00:50:33,840
little foggy on on the what
actually happened so much has

802
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:39,330
transpired over the past couple
of months. But the RSS

803
00:50:39,990 --> 00:50:43,410
introduction was kind of a last
minute tack on in terms of

804
00:50:43,410 --> 00:50:46,590
actually broadcasts and the
feeds through the podcasting

805
00:50:46,590 --> 00:50:46,920
app.

806
00:50:46,949 --> 00:50:48,359
Adam Curry: Oh, really? Oh,
okay.

807
00:50:49,380 --> 00:50:51,720
Boobury: And, you know, like, by
last minute, I'm thinking

808
00:50:51,720 --> 00:50:55,740
probably within the last month
or so, but you know, don't don't

809
00:50:55,740 --> 00:50:58,710
quote me on my outline. Like I
said, it's just, it's, there's

810
00:50:58,770 --> 00:51:03,480
so much both in work and
personal life and the show

811
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,360
stuff. It's hard to keep track
of, there's a lot of lore that

812
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:10,950
goes deep. And, you know, it was
just a matter of trying to

813
00:51:10,950 --> 00:51:15,630
bridge the gap between all of
this experience with BTS and the

814
00:51:15,630 --> 00:51:18,780
music, and the split kid,
especially, you know, doing

815
00:51:18,780 --> 00:51:23,580
these wallet, the wallet
switches, because we've been

816
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:29,820
since summer, or maybe I'd have
to go back, but we've been using

817
00:51:29,820 --> 00:51:33,570
the split kit every week.
Courtesy of Steven B. I mean,

818
00:51:33,570 --> 00:51:36,240
that thing is so cool,

819
00:51:36,270 --> 00:51:39,450
Adam Curry: though. I Phoebe
loves it too. So Okay, girl, I

820
00:51:39,450 --> 00:51:42,810
could not live without the split
kit, for sure. Yeah.

821
00:51:43,949 --> 00:51:46,529
Boobury: So it was just a matter
of like it kind of just, you

822
00:51:46,529 --> 00:51:49,139
know, being able to provide a
little bit of production. We

823
00:51:49,139 --> 00:51:52,709
rented some lights from the
company that I worked for just

824
00:51:52,709 --> 00:51:57,779
little two pipe, pipe and bass
with some LEDs. And Frankie

825
00:51:57,779 --> 00:52:00,539
Payne was out there helping me
get loaded in and we streamed

826
00:52:00,539 --> 00:52:05,249
everything and we BTS actually
rebroadcast that along with

827
00:52:05,249 --> 00:52:09,179
homegrown hits. That's something
that's really fun, you know, fun

828
00:52:09,179 --> 00:52:12,689
fact, if people want to do this,
you can just copy and paste live

829
00:52:12,689 --> 00:52:16,589
items out of other feeds and put
them into yours. And if you're

830
00:52:16,589 --> 00:52:17,849
doing rebroadcast

831
00:52:17,850 --> 00:52:20,670
Dave Jones: that's, that's a
great idea. Yeah, this is like

832
00:52:20,670 --> 00:52:25,620
a, like a feed drop. But live
for live for for a live event,

833
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:26,340
you know, yeah,

834
00:52:26,340 --> 00:52:29,670
Adam Curry: it's a repeater.
It's it's, you did you said,

835
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,180
copying the live item for this
for this podcast and to put on

836
00:52:33,180 --> 00:52:36,960
our live episode into the BTS
feed is perfect. I mean, I had

837
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:40,320
never even considered that but
it's, it's neither. A live

838
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:41,790
remote item is beautiful.

839
00:52:42,690 --> 00:52:47,220
Boobury: And we'll be doing that
on Saturday. But I guess since

840
00:52:47,220 --> 00:52:51,000
we're at the end of December
with Ainsley shows, you know,

841
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:55,710
that was I still like it still
kind of messes me up just like

842
00:52:56,220 --> 00:53:01,230
how much we got to witness
happen. For Ainsley, for her

843
00:53:01,230 --> 00:53:04,770
parents. For Frankie pain,
Frankie pain is a technician

844
00:53:04,770 --> 00:53:09,090
that's never bought Bitcoin and
earn that first stack of sads

845
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:14,820
nice. Like, that's such a that
is such a mind fudge, you know.

846
00:53:15,720 --> 00:53:18,570
Adam Curry: So before we get to
the next concert, which is the

847
00:53:18,570 --> 00:53:23,100
reason why we timed you having
on the show today. Tell me about

848
00:53:23,970 --> 00:53:28,740
Thunder Road and, and how how
are you approaching artists? Do

849
00:53:28,740 --> 00:53:32,250
you find this a certain way that
works better for them? What kind

850
00:53:32,250 --> 00:53:35,460
of pushback Are you getting?
What is your what is your

851
00:53:35,460 --> 00:53:39,900
approach for onboarding artists
and and explaining to them

852
00:53:39,900 --> 00:53:40,950
what's going on?

853
00:53:42,780 --> 00:53:52,320
Boobury: The it's funny, I have
been way more, I've met way more

854
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:56,640
musicians have been receptive to
podcasts and 2.0 then other

855
00:53:57,030 --> 00:54:04,350
other podcasters realistically,
it's pretty pretty bizarre. Fun

856
00:54:04,350 --> 00:54:07,230
fact, the union of the unwanted
appearance that you had done

857
00:54:07,230 --> 00:54:12,660
recently, a lot of those dudes I
have talked to some to a pretty

858
00:54:12,690 --> 00:54:15,990
good extent about getting their
feeds on boarded one of them

859
00:54:16,020 --> 00:54:22,110
even in person purpley. So I'm
excited to see those dudes catch

860
00:54:22,110 --> 00:54:29,190
up here. And then we, in terms
of just talking to the

861
00:54:29,190 --> 00:54:32,460
musicians, it's like, hey, you
know, if you've got a song,

862
00:54:32,460 --> 00:54:36,660
let's get it onto our website,
and I can build you the feed,

863
00:54:36,690 --> 00:54:41,070
I'll do everything for you. And,
you know, I'll get the feed

864
00:54:41,070 --> 00:54:44,640
hosted on our website with the
GUID transfers, which Dave You

865
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,010
and I had done that with rusty
gate. It was on wavelike

866
00:54:47,010 --> 00:54:50,700
originally, but we ended up
moving and it's my website that

867
00:54:50,700 --> 00:54:53,730
alerted me that like, I don't
have to hold these feeds in

868
00:54:53,730 --> 00:54:57,120
perpetuity for people I can, you
know, realistically I want to

869
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:02,280
offload these at some point I
don't want to post these forever

870
00:55:03,720 --> 00:55:08,580
just because like the idea is
you get people started you plant

871
00:55:08,580 --> 00:55:16,200
those seeds and you can just
trans groups like to like Ryan

872
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:20,670
Okada, 12 rides, I've got some
of his, some of his feeds. And

873
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:23,040
I've told him

874
00:55:24,929 --> 00:55:27,149
Adam Curry: everybody okay,
yeah, you you're cutting out

875
00:55:27,149 --> 00:55:29,819
Dave, are you losing all signal
or just

876
00:55:29,850 --> 00:55:33,630
Dave Jones: boom? No, no, I'm
fine. I just think it's just on

877
00:55:33,630 --> 00:55:34,260
boobers in

878
00:55:34,350 --> 00:55:36,870
Adam Curry: okay. Yeah, we lost
you for a second brother. Take

879
00:55:36,870 --> 00:55:39,840
it back to Okay. Check, check,
check, check. Yeah, you're good

880
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:40,080
now.

881
00:55:41,370 --> 00:55:46,230
Boobury: So, uh, oh, sure, I
lost my train of thought. Um,

882
00:55:46,650 --> 00:55:49,050
yeah, it's just a matter it's
just a matter of, you know,

883
00:55:49,050 --> 00:55:52,050
reaching out to the musicians
and seeing if they want to do

884
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:55,740
one song and if they do the one
song and there's and that's the

885
00:55:55,740 --> 00:56:01,380
cool thing is like these music
shows we can just like, like,

886
00:56:01,380 --> 00:56:03,690
hey, there's new music from
this, these guys and we just

887
00:56:03,690 --> 00:56:07,140
drop them into the chat and you
know, they get a little bit of

888
00:56:07,140 --> 00:56:10,230
exposure and they they like what
they're seeing in terms of you

889
00:56:10,230 --> 00:56:13,440
know, people just talking about
their music, you know, all of

890
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,530
the value aside, just the fact
that people are listening and

891
00:56:16,530 --> 00:56:19,920
enjoying sorry, all of the
Bitcoin aside, the fact that

892
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:25,650
people are listening and talking
about and enjoying that music,

893
00:56:25,650 --> 00:56:29,460
valuing it that that really
spurs them into getting their

894
00:56:29,460 --> 00:56:34,980
whole catalogue uploaded. And
I've I've been informed that I

895
00:56:34,980 --> 00:56:41,190
need to go back in at the right
duration tags. That crushes my

896
00:56:41,190 --> 00:56:43,890
soul a little bit, but we'll get
it figured out. I mean,

897
00:56:45,390 --> 00:56:48,240
everything is everything.
Everything that we produce is

898
00:56:48,240 --> 00:56:49,560
handcrafted.

899
00:56:50,580 --> 00:56:54,360
Adam Curry: Small batch. Small
batch. Artisan partners. Yes,

900
00:56:54,660 --> 00:56:55,530
Dave Jones: yes, yes.

901
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,730
Adam Curry: You're doing such
amazing work and I just want

902
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:04,410
everyone to understand when when
you talk about value for value

903
00:57:04,410 --> 00:57:09,960
and how it can work with smaller
audiences were well over 160,000

904
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:16,320
Satoshis just of what you
brought to today's podcast and

905
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:19,200
it's all you man you don't need
we don't need music it's just

906
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:24,450
just have you on the show this
great I mean that that really

907
00:57:24,450 --> 00:57:27,270
shows the power of what
community can do and you know,

908
00:57:27,270 --> 00:57:30,690
you're bringing your community
you're you're streaming live on

909
00:57:30,690 --> 00:57:34,110
the on the other feed I mean,
it's amazing what can be done

910
00:57:34,110 --> 00:57:37,440
with a relatively small amount
of people it's just it's

911
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:42,540
beautiful to see and I think
this is the trend in general and

912
00:57:42,540 --> 00:57:45,600
I think people are starting to
realize it and I love the

913
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:50,310
evangelizing that you're doing
and and which you've also done

914
00:57:50,340 --> 00:57:53,400
just beautifully for this 12
rods concert for tomorrow tell

915
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,530
us about that. Before

916
00:57:55,530 --> 00:57:59,310
Boobury: we go any further I do
Oh Pete's are Seven Goats

917
00:57:59,310 --> 00:58:01,860
because he was boosted in the
podcasting 2.0 feed and out the

918
00:58:01,860 --> 00:58:05,190
behind the ski one behind the
screen ones so with the

919
00:58:05,220 --> 00:58:08,820
boardrooms blessings I'd like to
just go ahead and get this over

920
00:58:08,820 --> 00:58:11,460
with that's probably the best
for everybody okay.

921
00:58:39,900 --> 00:58:45,900
Adam Curry: Victory oh man

922
00:58:51,270 --> 00:58:52,290
Dave Are you all right?

923
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:54,660
Dave Jones: Not sure what just
happened?

924
00:58:54,689 --> 00:58:57,269
Adam Curry: I got some on me.
Let me just wipe this off. I

925
00:58:57,269 --> 00:58:59,819
don't know what that Guru is.
But I gotta

926
00:58:59,820 --> 00:59:08,700
Dave Jones: change the clothes
Okay, that's something new in

927
00:59:08,700 --> 00:59:09,990
the boardroom. Yes. Okay.

928
00:59:10,349 --> 00:59:12,719
Boobury: I love that tribute che
Yeah, that was a reason

929
00:59:14,250 --> 00:59:19,290
Dave Jones: that I just I'm I'm
sort of like this is not good

930
00:59:19,290 --> 00:59:24,390
for my mental health. What I
mean is watching this

931
00:59:25,650 --> 00:59:27,840
Adam Curry: watching the
scoreboard I had to shut down

932
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:30,660
the scoreboard it was it was it
was drawing me in I was like,

933
00:59:31,679 --> 00:59:34,499
Dave Jones: it's crazy focus and
don't get anything done right

934
00:59:34,499 --> 00:59:34,739
now.

935
00:59:36,060 --> 00:59:39,360
Boobury: So there's, there's a
lot of elements that we've been

936
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:45,930
building up with are these and
this is gonna sound crazy, but

937
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:50,760
most of the things that triggers
the stuff that we can do comes

938
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:52,260
from IRC. Is

939
00:59:52,260 --> 00:59:56,130
Adam Curry: there a place we can
go and see where we can find the

940
00:59:56,130 --> 01:00:00,720
code to implement this or no to
customize it? GitHub or

941
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:04,860
something that people can go to?
Because I mean, I can see lots

942
01:00:04,860 --> 01:00:08,820
of lots of things people would
want to do with this. But it

943
01:00:08,820 --> 01:00:10,830
seems like where do I find it?

944
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:14,220
Boobury: There's two places.
Servo does have a GitHub

945
01:00:14,220 --> 01:00:20,370
repository for IR cacophony,
which is the IRC triggers. Split

946
01:00:20,370 --> 01:00:27,630
kid is also has also introduced
boost ISOs. And I didn't realize

947
01:00:27,660 --> 01:00:32,550
I forget exactly how to set it
up. Just because I got so much

948
01:00:32,550 --> 01:00:38,040
piled up on the plates, but it
is possible. It's just a matter

949
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:41,040
of making sure that you have the
right live item in your

950
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:46,710
defaults. And then there's a
menu inside the hamburger menu

951
01:00:46,710 --> 01:00:50,580
that takes you to the boost.
ISOs and you can set Oh,

952
01:00:50,970 --> 01:00:53,700
Adam Curry: I'd never even see
that boost board trigger board

953
01:00:53,700 --> 01:00:57,660
soundboard. Holy moly. Yeah. Oh,
that's cool.

954
01:00:58,079 --> 01:01:03,329
Boobury: So you can do that. But
yeah, the way our cacophony

955
01:01:03,329 --> 01:01:06,749
worse is gal, which is my
version of the booth spot,

956
01:01:07,139 --> 01:01:13,529
servos cetera. She's amazing.
And she relays the booths back.

957
01:01:13,529 --> 01:01:16,229
And then IR cacophony is a
Python script that's sitting

958
01:01:16,229 --> 01:01:20,969
there reading the chat room, and
just fires sound effects based

959
01:01:20,969 --> 01:01:23,729
off of various key word
triggers.

960
01:01:24,810 --> 01:01:27,240
Dave Jones: Wow, did you ever
did you ever get the lighting

961
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:28,680
thing working correctly?

962
01:01:29,219 --> 01:01:33,959
Boobury: Multiple times,
multiple times. So that that's a

963
01:01:33,959 --> 01:01:37,169
little more caveman than I would
like it. But as it stands,

964
01:01:37,169 --> 01:01:42,629
right, well, the first version
was using Hello pad. And hey,

965
01:01:42,629 --> 01:01:47,459
citizen, Peso doesn't turn me on
to this open source software

966
01:01:47,459 --> 01:01:52,049
called QL c plus, which is a
free and open lighting software.

967
01:01:52,769 --> 01:01:58,349
And in there, it's got an audio
trigger widget and you just give

968
01:01:58,349 --> 01:02:02,669
it an input and it will sit
there and fire lighting chases

969
01:02:04,979 --> 01:02:09,179
based off of how you know how
you program it. So just

970
01:02:09,390 --> 01:02:12,540
Adam Curry: just to distill it
down so what can be done now

971
01:02:12,540 --> 01:02:15,180
which is great for live shows,
which I'm going to look at now

972
01:02:15,180 --> 01:02:19,350
that I see it's in the split
kit, the split kit.com You can

973
01:02:19,350 --> 01:02:24,450
set it up so that if if someone
boosts a certain number, a

974
01:02:24,450 --> 01:02:29,850
certain amount that will trigger
a different sound Yes, that is I

975
01:02:29,850 --> 01:02:32,100
didn't even know the see this. I
didn't even know this was here.

976
01:02:32,610 --> 01:02:35,340
It's been in front of me. I use
the Split kit all the time. It's

977
01:02:35,340 --> 01:02:37,650
it's been in front of me all
this time. That's phenomenal.

978
01:02:37,650 --> 01:02:40,800
And and it's really great
because it you know, it works

979
01:02:40,830 --> 01:02:47,160
inspirationally. aspirationally
and auditorily it's fantastic.

980
01:02:47,580 --> 01:02:47,940
Yeah,

981
01:02:47,940 --> 01:02:50,550
Boobury: and like that whole
kazoo pit that's something that

982
01:02:50,550 --> 01:02:55,260
just became a necessity because
Pete's are murders so many goats

983
01:02:55,260 --> 01:02:59,340
routinely that he just needs
background music so yes, I

984
01:02:59,340 --> 01:03:01,260
Adam Curry: think I think I
understand yes

985
01:03:01,290 --> 01:03:05,850
Boobury: it's a totally just you
know, it's the the epitome in my

986
01:03:05,850 --> 01:03:10,200
opinion of taking a show and you
know like really staking a claim

987
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:11,310
and brother

988
01:03:11,310 --> 01:03:14,100
Adam Curry: let's take a little
break here and then we'll come

989
01:03:14,100 --> 01:03:17,640
back we'll talk about the about
the concert tomorrow you of

990
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:21,870
course view as one of the few
guests on the show email this

991
01:03:21,870 --> 01:03:26,820
morning early with your wallet
and and with a song you want it

992
01:03:26,820 --> 01:03:28,050
so what are we going to listen
to?

993
01:03:28,470 --> 01:03:31,500
Boobury: We are going to be
listening to a damn good

994
01:03:31,500 --> 01:03:33,900
haunting by mellow Cosette
they're going to be kicking off

995
01:03:33,900 --> 01:03:38,280
our live stream tomorrow at
6:30pm Central in the

996
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:40,050
Minneapolis check it out.

997
01:04:07,140 --> 01:04:14,370
Unknown: says please wipe the
blood from your door Grace Do

998
01:04:14,370 --> 01:04:14,910
you see

999
01:04:20,159 --> 01:04:29,669
what you believe in now still
betting days in the sun

1000
01:04:40,980 --> 01:04:42,450
need is a damn good

1001
01:04:58,110 --> 01:05:07,410
meeting hearts you Got demons in
the caravans as you can you

1002
01:05:07,410 --> 01:05:08,310
promise us

1003
01:05:19,620 --> 01:05:19,950
back

1004
01:05:30,239 --> 01:05:32,339
you need is a damn good on

1005
01:06:31,890 --> 01:07:00,150
Adam Curry: You well now kind of
kicks butt I would concur. mela

1006
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:01,740
Damned

1007
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:06,660
Dave Jones: you that the the
church is not a place you go as

1008
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:11,790
you are the church you carry it
around with you like blueberry.

1009
01:07:13,050 --> 01:07:17,040
Behind the scheme's is not a
podcast. You listen to it, it's

1010
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:21,840
wherever blueberry is. So he
basically turned this boardroom

1011
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:24,960
into an episode of bond schemes
as recently what happened today

1012
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:32,250
Adam Curry: Dave, you do a
invites brother. You're in

1013
01:07:32,250 --> 01:07:33,150
charge of all that man.

1014
01:07:33,180 --> 01:07:35,610
Dave Jones: I know. I know. I
apologize to the entire

1015
01:07:35,610 --> 01:07:39,480
boardroom. So yeah, so

1016
01:07:39,510 --> 01:07:43,350
Boobury: let's after after the
concert with Ainsley, I'd called

1017
01:07:43,350 --> 01:07:46,680
him to the our big dumb mouth
podcast live every Wednesday and

1018
01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:50,310
Saturday. And I had told him,
you know how the concert went,

1019
01:07:50,310 --> 01:07:54,450
and I was very excited. And
someone from the Minneapolis

1020
01:07:54,720 --> 01:08:02,310
Perry, emailed the Thunder Road,
email, and was curious about how

1021
01:08:02,310 --> 01:08:05,490
they could do something similar
and we had talked a little bit

1022
01:08:05,490 --> 01:08:08,280
back and forth. He plays in a
band silver seed who check him

1023
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:14,640
out on Ellen beats. And you
know, it communication just kind

1024
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:17,670
of fell off. And this is right
around the time I went down to

1025
01:08:17,700 --> 01:08:21,090
Kansas City a couple of times, I
was setting up, Spencer and

1026
01:08:21,090 --> 01:08:25,080
Lorien with their own bustable
disco ball. They've got a

1027
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:29,220
lighting rig set up down in
there in the bowl, where every

1028
01:08:29,220 --> 01:08:32,340
time they get a boost, there's a
little chase of LED lights and

1029
01:08:32,340 --> 01:08:35,760
then a disco ball lights up.
They've got their own cast video

1030
01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:39,210
stream that it's the background
for their stream. It's it's so

1031
01:08:39,210 --> 01:08:45,510
just perfect. And after we kind
of got that figured out. I was

1032
01:08:45,510 --> 01:08:47,940
sitting at lunch with the
supervisor and I was telling

1033
01:08:47,940 --> 01:08:53,340
them about the Ainsley show and
the venue. That email from Perry

1034
01:08:53,340 --> 01:08:56,340
kind of came back up and I
looked it up on the Google Maps

1035
01:08:56,340 --> 01:09:00,300
and the warehouse was five
minutes down the road from where

1036
01:09:00,300 --> 01:09:04,470
we were having lunch. And I was
like, Oh, it is Game On, called

1037
01:09:04,470 --> 01:09:11,730
Perry basically showed up that
day. And within 24 to 48 hours.

1038
01:09:11,940 --> 01:09:16,830
They said let's do a show April
6 12 rods is going out on tour.

1039
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:20,070
And we'd like to do a little
like pre tour kickoff for them.

1040
01:09:20,550 --> 01:09:25,770
And that really just that is
what kicks off the last month

1041
01:09:25,770 --> 01:09:30,570
and a half in terms of just
trying to get everything ready.

1042
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:33,780
We're we're bringing the
scoreboard which we've already

1043
01:09:33,780 --> 01:09:37,020
kind of talked about. Thank you
Eric, VP for getting that set

1044
01:09:37,020 --> 01:09:39,630
up. We're gonna have that
projected in the venue so that

1045
01:09:39,630 --> 01:09:43,080
people can see it. We're gonna
go nice,

1046
01:09:43,110 --> 01:09:44,880
Adam Curry: nice. Oh, yeah.

1047
01:09:45,150 --> 01:09:49,050
Boobury: Oh, yeah, dude. Oh,
yeah. And we're going to have a

1048
01:09:49,050 --> 01:09:51,630
48 inch disco ball that's going
to be lining up. I've actually

1049
01:09:51,630 --> 01:09:55,590
got a LED licos in here at my
feet that's been lining up a

1050
01:09:55,590 --> 01:09:58,890
floor. This is like my second
time to actually

1051
01:09:58,890 --> 01:10:01,710
Adam Curry: crop so you
Actually, you're taking the

1052
01:10:01,710 --> 01:10:06,480
whole boosting experience back
into the IRL with with stuff

1053
01:10:06,480 --> 01:10:09,300
flashing and flipping off while
people are booths. Will you have

1054
01:10:09,300 --> 01:10:13,830
QR codes for people to use
during the show? I

1055
01:10:13,860 --> 01:10:16,590
Boobury: hope so. I was kind of
messing around with the get

1056
01:10:16,590 --> 01:10:21,870
Alby. I just I don't know which
QR codes to use. That's

1057
01:10:21,870 --> 01:10:24,180
Adam Curry: the thing. It's not
a split kit thing that you that

1058
01:10:24,180 --> 01:10:29,100
you use for that. Oh, you're
right. Yeah. Split kit. Yeah.

1059
01:10:29,130 --> 01:10:31,500
Boobury: Yeah. All right. Yeah.
And we'll have split kit

1060
01:10:31,500 --> 01:10:32,670
running. One

1061
01:10:32,670 --> 01:10:35,280
Adam Curry: day, someone's gonna
document all this and it'll be

1062
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:39,180
the way that concerts are done.
I'm telling you, right, you can

1063
01:10:39,270 --> 01:10:42,900
be sitting at home, you can do
something on your on your app,

1064
01:10:42,900 --> 01:10:46,290
and you're gonna see lights
flashing at the venue itself.

1065
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:50,100
It's this is a this is powerful.
Unfortunately,

1066
01:10:50,100 --> 01:10:51,960
Boobury: unfortunately, I think
we're going to kind of run out.

1067
01:10:51,990 --> 01:10:54,270
I mean, there's we're going to
run out of time today, but

1068
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:58,830
there's so many just like, oh,
we can try. Okay, I'll give you

1069
01:10:58,830 --> 01:11:01,500
one. Give me one. You'll
appreciate this.

1070
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:03,600
Adam Curry: How old are you man?
How old are you?

1071
01:11:03,990 --> 01:11:06,900
Boobury: I'll be 33 at the end
of July down in Nashville. magic

1072
01:11:06,900 --> 01:11:07,380
number.

1073
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:11,610
Adam Curry: Dave now I
understand young man. Yes,

1074
01:11:11,610 --> 01:11:12,180
that's right.

1075
01:11:12,180 --> 01:11:13,620
Dave Jones: Yeah, he has energy.
Yeah.

1076
01:11:18,510 --> 01:11:21,450
Boobury: Oh, god, yeah, it's,
it's really just kind of bring

1077
01:11:21,450 --> 01:11:25,230
into the table. Everything that
we've been, you know, trying to

1078
01:11:25,620 --> 01:11:30,420
not trying that we've been doing
for the live podcast. And so

1079
01:11:30,420 --> 01:11:33,120
we'll have the boost of all
disco ball, it should be

1080
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:37,800
lighting up. We're going to have
a boost bot overlay on the video

1081
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:41,760
stream. I've actually got hex
chat output into a text file for

1082
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:45,330
OBS. Of course, why not? That
will be overlaid on the bottom?

1083
01:11:46,290 --> 01:11:51,240
Of course you do. Yep. There's,
we we start the pre stream at

1084
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:56,700
530. We've got one hour of music
videos from songs were found on

1085
01:11:56,700 --> 01:12:00,540
Ellen beats, we'll have the
split kits set up ready to go so

1086
01:12:00,540 --> 01:12:05,130
that as you're watching the pre
show, stream, all the wallets

1087
01:12:05,130 --> 01:12:09,600
will be changed for split kit,
podcast guru. There's a little

1088
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:11,580
something something special,
it's going to be actually

1089
01:12:11,580 --> 01:12:15,510
kicking us from the pre stream
into the live feed. I've been

1090
01:12:15,510 --> 01:12:19,590
accused of spoiling stuff in the
past. So I'm sitting on this

1091
01:12:19,590 --> 01:12:22,890
one. And there's nothing that
anybody can do to Mattamy Yeah,

1092
01:12:22,890 --> 01:12:23,430
good man.

1093
01:12:23,730 --> 01:12:26,100
Dave Jones: Oh, hell yes. And
then.

1094
01:12:27,450 --> 01:12:29,940
Adam Curry: And our guests
brings his own sound drops. It

1095
01:12:29,940 --> 01:12:31,620
doesn't get any better than
that. It's

1096
01:12:31,740 --> 01:12:35,490
Boobury: all I have. I have so
many. I have so many brother,

1097
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:39,270
Adam Curry: your enthusiasm,
your enthusiasm is infectious. I

1098
01:12:39,270 --> 01:12:46,140
love this. I think that you're
changing the way live music is

1099
01:12:46,440 --> 01:12:51,570
just live music in general. With
this integration with with 2.0

1100
01:12:51,570 --> 01:12:56,520
and with the value verse. This
is very exciting. It's it's a

1101
01:12:57,060 --> 01:13:01,500
it's messy. I love that about
it. Because this is this is

1102
01:13:01,500 --> 01:13:05,910
where beautiful things are born
man. I'm very. Can I say I'm

1103
01:13:05,910 --> 01:13:09,690
proud of you, son. I love this.
This is good. Good stuff.

1104
01:13:09,690 --> 01:13:10,740
Families. Thank you, ma'am.

1105
01:13:11,970 --> 01:13:15,300
Dave Jones: You're not. But
you're not a developer. Right? I

1106
01:13:15,300 --> 01:13:18,540
mean, this. You're not No, not
right. Oh,

1107
01:13:18,690 --> 01:13:25,530
Boobury: my, my, my history or I
guess, experience with computers

1108
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:30,300
is pretty much MySpace and some
Adobe court back in the day when

1109
01:13:30,300 --> 01:13:32,730
we were homeschooled. Wow.

1110
01:13:33,990 --> 01:13:38,640
Dave Jones: Wow is the most this
is the best part to me, of, of

1111
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:44,100
this, of this board meeting is
that you look at all the stuff

1112
01:13:44,100 --> 01:13:48,240
that is getting strung together
in by you and Spencer and and

1113
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:53,310
all the people in the IRC. And
it's, it shows to what what I

1114
01:13:53,310 --> 01:13:58,110
take away from that is that look
at all this stuff that was that

1115
01:13:58,110 --> 01:14:01,860
has been built and strung
together. What What if we put

1116
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:06,120
actual protocols on top of this,
you know, actual standard

1117
01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:09,930
protocols like activity pub and
that kind of thing and put these

1118
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:13,800
on top to where they're linked
together in a way where you

1119
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:18,570
don't have to do a bunch of like
stringing of disparate parts

1120
01:14:18,570 --> 01:14:22,020
together where you can actually
link them together in a coherent

1121
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:28,080
Yes. Protocol, then this, then
you're then you're then it's not

1122
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:33,690
just siloed into one IRC channel
is in its you you do a lot is

1123
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:38,730
anybody can do a live podcast.
And they can just pay they can

1124
01:14:38,730 --> 01:14:42,900
just hit go and you get all the
parts. Like I just think that

1125
01:14:42,900 --> 01:14:48,480
there's a lot to learn from
watching. You guys put all these

1126
01:14:48,480 --> 01:14:52,320
things together, because I get
stuck. But I think all of us as

1127
01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:55,320
developers we get stuck
sometimes as is what I said a

1128
01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:58,680
while ago. I'm building activity
pub bridge and I and I hit this

1129
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:00,690
point I get I get a couple of
days. So it's done. And I'm

1130
01:15:00,690 --> 01:15:05,340
like, Well, that's it. I'm out
of ideas. But then you guys come

1131
01:15:05,340 --> 01:15:08,640
along and do like 50 things.
You're You're murdering goats.

1132
01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:11,280
You're doing all this wild
stuff. And I'm like, and putting

1133
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:14,250
together scoreboards on the
internet. I'm like, oh, yeah,

1134
01:15:14,250 --> 01:15:17,100
wait, there. There is like a lot
of other things you could do.

1135
01:15:17,490 --> 01:15:21,150
You just I just didn't have the
language to describe it or the

1136
01:15:21,150 --> 01:15:25,440
ideas to like express it. It's
cool. It's very, very cool

1137
01:15:34,050 --> 01:15:40,140
Adam Curry: so, just looking at
the scoreboard so far 208,585

1138
01:15:40,140 --> 01:15:45,330
SATs for this podcast being
boosted. That is well over $135.

1139
01:15:46,380 --> 01:15:50,100
You know, a lot of bands will
pay that amount to play.

1140
01:15:51,300 --> 01:15:54,450
Boobury: Yeah, no, I'm saying
we, you know, this concert has

1141
01:15:54,450 --> 01:15:58,890
been, you know, produced via the
same way that we've been doing

1142
01:15:58,890 --> 01:16:02,340
the show every week. We've asked
people for value. We've tried to

1143
01:16:02,340 --> 01:16:06,060
do what we could to provide
value up front. That's been kind

1144
01:16:06,060 --> 01:16:08,850
of interesting. Like, it's not
just the lighting stuff that

1145
01:16:08,850 --> 01:16:11,790
we're doing for this concert
we've sown and made banners that

1146
01:16:11,790 --> 01:16:15,000
we're going to be flying.
They've been painted with, you

1147
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:18,750
know, it's under road media,
Taylor sound and then you know,

1148
01:16:18,750 --> 01:16:20,970
the actual like titles of the
concert.

1149
01:16:23,190 --> 01:16:26,610
Adam Curry: Man and brother. Do
you know do you have a full time

1150
01:16:26,610 --> 01:16:28,170
job as well? I

1151
01:16:28,170 --> 01:16:33,720
Boobury: have have bounced
between two jobs. I just got off

1152
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:36,600
the road with REO Speedwagon
Sunday.

1153
01:16:37,470 --> 01:16:38,160
Adam Curry: Beautiful

1154
01:16:39,690 --> 01:16:42,570
Boobury: in the past 10 to a
that was a great time. This guy

1155
01:16:42,570 --> 01:16:43,380
is still ahead. Oh, I

1156
01:16:43,380 --> 01:16:48,030
Adam Curry: bet. I bet they do.
But we could talk forever about

1157
01:16:48,030 --> 01:16:50,520
this stuff. And it's in thrall
and we do have to thank some

1158
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:55,200
people also have to get Dave out
of here on time, so

1159
01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:57,870
Boobury: just let me just say
real quick because I'm actually

1160
01:16:57,900 --> 01:17:00,540
I probably do have to dip right
now because we have to go pack a

1161
01:17:00,540 --> 01:17:06,540
truck. Saturday. Search 12 rods,
Tory clips in your podcast and

1162
01:17:06,540 --> 01:17:09,870
2.0 app that will show you the
live feed, we're going to be

1163
01:17:09,870 --> 01:17:13,890
kicking that on 536 30 metal
cassette takes the stage 730

1164
01:17:13,890 --> 01:17:17,640
will be 12 rods. Thank you,
Tyler. Thank you open mic. Thank

1165
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:22,590
you, everybody that's helped us
get to where we are to go load

1166
01:17:22,590 --> 01:17:23,070
in today

1167
01:17:23,100 --> 01:17:26,460
Adam Curry: and where and where
do we find it in the podcasting

1168
01:17:26,460 --> 01:17:27,540
2.0 apps.

1169
01:17:28,590 --> 01:17:32,370
Boobury: You can search 12 rods
you can search tailor sound okay

1170
01:17:32,370 --> 01:17:35,010
behind the schemes and homegrown
hits are going to be doing a

1171
01:17:35,010 --> 01:17:38,970
rebroadcast and we're going to
be live in tune stir.io And on

1172
01:17:38,970 --> 01:17:40,710
the no agenda stream. Wow.

1173
01:17:42,270 --> 01:17:44,430
Dave Jones: There's a video
string is which which one is the

1174
01:17:44,430 --> 01:17:49,200
video stream? They should send
you're gonna have a note the OBS

1175
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:51,330
lay overlay and yeah, all

1176
01:17:51,330 --> 01:17:53,790
Boobury: of them all of them
should be the video stream.

1177
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:59,310
Okay, agenda one. Yep. I'm gonna
dip out but my last little bit

1178
01:17:59,310 --> 01:17:59,790
of karma

1179
01:18:14,910 --> 01:18:19,350
right. Give me all for letting
me hop on. I really appreciate

1180
01:18:19,350 --> 01:18:22,200
it and I will talk to you also
very soon. Thank you very

1181
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:24,450
Adam Curry: brother. Thank you
so much. We appreciate it. And

1182
01:18:24,450 --> 01:18:31,710
we'll be watching man have a
great time. Okay, Dave. I'd

1183
01:18:31,710 --> 01:18:33,930
learned something Dave. We've
just looked at the ground.

1184
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:39,180
Dizziness will go away. It's
okay. Room was scanning for me.

1185
01:18:39,180 --> 01:18:41,970
I had to stop for a second.
There you go. This is actually

1186
01:18:41,970 --> 01:18:44,730
helping. All right. I'm going to
try and run through a whole

1187
01:18:44,730 --> 01:18:47,220
bunch of these booths that came
in it's a little bit out of

1188
01:18:47,220 --> 01:18:50,520
control. You know them not all
of them are boosted Graham's

1189
01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:54,480
thank God just got 1000 SATs
from Ainsley Costello go

1190
01:18:54,480 --> 01:18:59,310
blueberry 34,567 from Dred Scott
love the show can't fight that

1191
01:18:59,310 --> 01:19:04,740
feeling anymore. Mary Kate Ultra
three hearts in a lightning bolt

1192
01:19:04,740 --> 01:19:09,420
with a row of ducks 2222 A non
will not beat me says na

1193
01:19:09,420 --> 01:19:14,190
millennial with 1000 SATs Tico
Tico from DeLorean at 88

1194
01:19:14,550 --> 01:19:18,690
homeschoolers rule from shred
word 500 SATs and other 5000

1195
01:19:18,690 --> 01:19:21,840
from cool stuff. We may not be
prepping the door full verse to

1196
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:27,300
host live concerts one day soon.
I love that. That's very cool. D

1197
01:19:27,330 --> 01:19:31,830
D web 3210. Will the advent of
cross app comments resulted in

1198
01:19:31,830 --> 01:19:35,430
fewer booster grams and lower
monetization overall? Well, no.

1199
01:19:36,180 --> 01:19:39,600
This is what I initially thought
with. With fountain surfacing

1200
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:43,500
those it turns out that the
answer is no it's you still have

1201
01:19:43,500 --> 01:19:47,100
to do the same amount of work
for value for value you have to

1202
01:19:47,100 --> 01:19:51,210
ask for value. Remember that
booster grams are not comment

1203
01:19:51,210 --> 01:19:56,220
with a payment it's it's a value
support with a comment. That's

1204
01:19:56,220 --> 01:19:59,460
the way it works and that's the
way it still is working 1001

1205
01:19:59,460 --> 01:20:04,560
from angels Eat Minneapolis
10,000 from DS laughs artisanal

1206
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:07,230
small batch and handcrafted
podcasting what they hate to

1207
01:20:07,230 --> 01:20:10,020
admit is I'm here for the tech
talk. It gives away your nerd

1208
01:20:10,020 --> 01:20:12,780
status love what you're doing
with music features when there

1209
01:20:12,780 --> 01:20:17,910
was a lot of nerdy stuff in
there. Tell you, pew, this man

1210
01:20:17,910 --> 01:20:21,870
pew the booth Pfeiffer 1821 Then
we got paid tar with his

1211
01:20:21,930 --> 01:20:27,270
incredible sequence of 6666
DeLorean sacrificing this goat

1212
01:20:27,270 --> 01:20:30,900
in the name of d mu i remember
when boobs put like 33 splits on

1213
01:20:30,900 --> 01:20:34,200
the behind the scheme's episode
to play the pioneers. April in

1214
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:36,720
the week and the wolf long
before the split kid

1215
01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:40,020
revolutionize the scene. Thank
you, DeLorean Ainsley was

1216
01:20:40,020 --> 01:20:43,200
listening the whole time he gets
2100 SATs blueberry rocks,

1217
01:20:43,380 --> 01:20:47,820
Curtis Peterson 10,000 SATs just
wanted to hear the Pew Sam Sethi

1218
01:20:48,780 --> 01:20:52,110
Okay, something different from
Sam 1000 SATs true fans has

1219
01:20:52,110 --> 01:20:54,810
enabled pod roll discovery if
your show is listed in another

1220
01:20:54,810 --> 01:20:58,800
person's pod roll we can show
that in your page. You can link

1221
01:20:58,980 --> 01:21:02,400
you can click on that show we
will have the same for any music

1222
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:05,400
played on a music cast show you
can then link to the music link

1223
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:07,950
and go to the backside of this
discover this is what James was

1224
01:21:07,950 --> 01:21:12,780
working on. Yeah, so you can
he's reverse reversing the pod

1225
01:21:12,780 --> 01:21:18,060
rolls by the way sam i i added
another another show to the pod

1226
01:21:18,060 --> 01:21:21,600
roll and I don't see it updating
on on pod fans yet so I don't

1227
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:25,590
know how you update the fans got
true fans I'm sorry. But I would

1228
01:21:25,590 --> 01:21:29,970
love to see that update.
Anonymous blueberry rules when

1229
01:21:29,970 --> 01:21:33,660
an exciting time for Wii for Wii
hard hat. Mini striper boosts I

1230
01:21:33,660 --> 01:21:37,440
want to be on top blueberry
himself with ADA ADA does this

1231
01:21:37,440 --> 01:21:40,170
thing on Yeah, it is. I want to
be on the scoreboards as Dobby

1232
01:21:40,170 --> 01:21:44,700
das with 5000 SATs and a
millennial 6666 Is this

1233
01:21:44,700 --> 01:21:48,420
annoying? No, not at all. When
you send us money No, it's not

1234
01:21:48,420 --> 01:21:54,420
annoying. 6969 from Dred Scott
7777 from Mike Newman Periscope

1235
01:21:54,420 --> 01:21:58,560
up thank you for your courage
y'all any recent merges? 3333

1236
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:03,030
from anonymous go boop blueberry
salted Crayon 777 Beef milkshake

1237
01:22:03,030 --> 01:22:07,080
2.0 test then I'm only doing the
booster grams here sir Spencer

1238
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:10,020
while we sow we live scoreboard
now in the boardroom Long live

1239
01:22:10,020 --> 01:22:14,340
brewery hail Eric peopIe put me
in the screencap Ainsley again

1240
01:22:14,340 --> 01:22:17,820
scoreboard blueberry for the win
2100 Gay dead goats from na

1241
01:22:17,820 --> 01:22:23,100
millennial quackquack says dribs
Scott we've got Eric our podcast

1242
01:22:23,100 --> 01:22:26,880
Space Invader vibes with that
scoreboard. 3333 go podcasts and

1243
01:22:26,910 --> 01:22:30,750
then for yard work gents. For
Macintosh 2100 Sam Sethi you

1244
01:22:30,750 --> 01:22:38,100
alive. Let's go. 1000 SATs Eric
p p 33 333. I'm almost there.

1245
01:22:39,480 --> 01:22:40,620
Dave Jones: Yes. Hang in there.
Yes.

1246
01:22:41,790 --> 01:22:44,400
Adam Curry: Then I hit the
delimiter. So oh, there we go.

1247
01:22:44,430 --> 01:22:44,850
Okay.

1248
01:22:46,410 --> 01:22:48,930
Dave Jones: Take a breather.
Bad. shoulder shoulder shoulder

1249
01:22:48,930 --> 01:22:49,800
massage. Yes.

1250
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:52,110
Adam Curry: Thank you. And turn
on the massage chair. Yeah,

1251
01:22:52,110 --> 01:22:53,820
perfect. We

1252
01:22:53,820 --> 01:22:57,030
Dave Jones: got some. Get some
paper towels. We get Oscar marry

1253
01:22:57,270 --> 01:22:59,010
$200 Whoa,

1254
01:22:59,040 --> 01:22:59,910
Adam Curry: thank you very much.

1255
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:05,130
Unknown: Stock calm. Carla. 20
Blaze. Ohm am Paula. Thank you,

1256
01:23:05,130 --> 01:23:06,330
Adam Curry: brother. That's
great.

1257
01:23:07,950 --> 01:23:11,940
Dave Jones: We got Yeah, so I
talked to Oscar in email. He

1258
01:23:11,940 --> 01:23:17,040
said he's got the the fountain
relay pretty much beats he said

1259
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:20,160
his set is stable. So we should
be able to start hooking into

1260
01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:24,270
that to do some bridging on that
overt act. Ah, nice. Nice. Nice.

1261
01:23:24,270 --> 01:23:27,270
Yeah. Okay, so hopefully
hopefully get that going soon.

1262
01:23:28,530 --> 01:23:33,060
You were evidently on a show
that I didn't know about. In

1263
01:23:33,090 --> 01:23:35,970
because we got a couple of
boosts I mean, papers about

1264
01:23:35,970 --> 01:23:40,590
that. Elizabeth Pavlov sent $100
Oh

1265
01:23:42,090 --> 01:23:43,200
Unknown: Sakala

1266
01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:48,540
Adam Curry: on Ambala the union
of the unwanted yes

1267
01:23:48,540 --> 01:23:51,270
Dave Jones: it's just heard you
on decentralized TV.

1268
01:23:51,870 --> 01:23:55,500
Adam Curry: Oh, no, that's
that's on Oh, that's Mike Adams

1269
01:23:55,500 --> 01:23:59,160
the health Ranger on Bridey on
Yeah, I did that a while of your

1270
01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:01,620
honor. You did a variety I did
it right on man. Yeah, I was

1271
01:24:01,620 --> 01:24:05,880
like now I'm officially in the
club and talked a lot about

1272
01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:09,330
podcasting 2.0 If I can recall
so that that might that might

1273
01:24:09,330 --> 01:24:10,710
have done it. Yeah,

1274
01:24:10,710 --> 01:24:12,900
Dave Jones: didn't nobody says
she says just heard you on

1275
01:24:12,900 --> 01:24:16,230
decentralize TV Glory. Glory be
to God in the highest Welcome to

1276
01:24:16,230 --> 01:24:18,690
the family and the neighborhood.
We live 20 minutes from

1277
01:24:18,690 --> 01:24:21,000
Fredericksburg. Oh, Michael and
Elizabeth peggeleh.

1278
01:24:21,030 --> 01:24:23,370
Adam Curry: Well, micron
Elizabeth let's. Let's have a

1279
01:24:23,370 --> 01:24:25,080
drink at Java ranch. Let's have
a coffee.

1280
01:24:26,580 --> 01:24:30,510
Dave Jones: Thank you, Elizabeth
and Mike. And we got a legendary

1281
01:24:30,540 --> 01:24:33,960
Hall of Fame. podcaster Dave
Jackson. Yeah, he $50 Well,

1282
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:38,280
thank you. Thanks to Adam for
the kind words on decentralized

1283
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:39,630
TV deeply appreciate it.

1284
01:24:40,110 --> 01:24:43,920
Adam Curry: I mean, what was I
doing? I don't know whatever you

1285
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:47,220
did. This interview was taped
quite a while ago and I don't

1286
01:24:47,220 --> 01:24:49,440
know why but they hadn't posted
it and then they said oh, no,

1287
01:24:49,440 --> 01:24:54,120
we're we're posting it tomorrow.
And I did I did. I posted on on

1288
01:24:54,150 --> 01:24:57,630
podcast index dot social so
people can find it there. Yeah,

1289
01:24:57,630 --> 01:24:57,840
didn't

1290
01:24:57,840 --> 01:24:59,700
Dave Jones: even didn't even
know about this. We got a couple

1291
01:24:59,700 --> 01:25:03,210
of boosts. Sounds like Whoa This
must have been a big thing. Up

1292
01:25:03,210 --> 01:25:08,460
Beats Music podcasts and is
$3.33 how the boardroom I read

1293
01:25:08,460 --> 01:25:12,600
from chat F of course you did
the marketing arm of podcasting.

1294
01:25:12,900 --> 01:25:17,010
Yes there were a few music
artists in index that never even

1295
01:25:17,010 --> 01:25:21,390
heard of booster Graham ball nor
podcasting 2.0 Taking a note

1296
01:25:21,390 --> 01:25:24,300
from Texas slim on this one. Why
are you here? What are your

1297
01:25:24,300 --> 01:25:27,390
intentions? Better start
learning the Bitcoin ethos

1298
01:25:27,420 --> 01:25:30,450
artists you're shooting you're
shorting yourselves knowledge

1299
01:25:30,450 --> 01:25:33,780
about decentralization and value
the time to wake up and put in

1300
01:25:33,780 --> 01:25:36,630
the work if you want to survive
in this value space this ain't

1301
01:25:36,630 --> 01:25:39,180
and Spotify or apple that's
right as we're getting your

1302
01:25:39,180 --> 01:25:43,200
handheld like a baby or over
five by five in the pie. Wow,

1303
01:25:43,380 --> 01:25:46,140
Adam Curry: perfect boost
perfect donation. Perfect,

1304
01:25:46,140 --> 01:25:49,590
perfect note and yes, I've been
asking people on boosted gram

1305
01:25:49,590 --> 01:25:53,640
Balt please in your in your
booster gram. Say I heard it on

1306
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:58,050
the booster gram ball. And you
know that work someone? One of

1307
01:25:58,050 --> 01:26:03,360
the artists right away was on
Nastar saying well, I don't know

1308
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:08,490
what this is Chad after the
rescue. He slips in. Yeah, it

1309
01:26:08,490 --> 01:26:09,150
was beautiful.

1310
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:14,640
Dave Jones: Why don't we get $1
from a video Cut Pro rue. Not

1311
01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:18,030
sure what nationality that is.
But thank you. Thank you. All

1312
01:26:18,030 --> 01:26:25,890
right. We got some get some
boosts boost. See boost. dwelve

1313
01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:28,650
sent us 5000 SATs the cast
Matic. He says thanks for the

1314
01:26:28,650 --> 01:26:32,130
really good explanation of V
four. V four v Adam and Dave. It

1315
01:26:32,130 --> 01:26:35,310
has really helped me understand
the intent of values separated

1316
01:26:35,310 --> 01:26:36,300
from technology.

1317
01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:40,260
Adam Curry: A lot of people I'm
glad we did that. Because many

1318
01:26:40,260 --> 01:26:45,060
people were like, Oh, I didn't
know this. Thanks for clue me

1319
01:26:45,060 --> 01:26:47,850
and yeah, value number four
value dot info if you want to

1320
01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:51,450
get a refresher or learn more or
tell someone else about what

1321
01:26:51,450 --> 01:26:52,110
we're doing here.

1322
01:26:53,100 --> 01:26:54,750
Dave Jones: Karen at mere
mortals send us essential

1323
01:26:54,750 --> 01:26:58,140
enrichers 1111 through Fanti
says I've also heard there is a

1324
01:26:58,140 --> 01:27:00,990
very good podcast that explains
value for value.

1325
01:27:02,220 --> 01:27:05,550
Adam Curry: I'm reliably
informed. I've heard that value

1326
01:27:05,550 --> 01:27:07,890
for value podcast. Andrew

1327
01:27:07,890 --> 01:27:11,700
Dave Jones: grommets in us a row
of dogs 2220 twos from the app

1328
01:27:11,700 --> 01:27:14,310
called wherever he is and he's
going

1329
01:27:14,310 --> 01:27:16,380
Adam Curry: to be on pod news
weekly review soon I hear which

1330
01:27:16,380 --> 01:27:18,240
I'm very I'm delighted about
that.

1331
01:27:18,780 --> 01:27:22,920
Dave Jones: Yes, Sam always he
always scoops us before we get

1332
01:27:23,070 --> 01:27:26,400
to talk to people yes snatches
them from us. Well, that's

1333
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:27,210
Adam Curry: Sam for you.

1334
01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:30,360
Dave Jones: Thanks for the V
four v primer it's easy to miss

1335
01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:32,640
the forest for the trees
appreciate the education and go

1336
01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:34,080
podcasting go podcasting

1337
01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:38,520
Adam Curry: yourself brother.
The legendary Andrew Grumman

1338
01:27:39,570 --> 01:27:42,300
Dave Jones: RW Nash 2000 says
they found he says because

1339
01:27:42,300 --> 01:27:44,730
you're doing things not just
sitting back and complaining

1340
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:50,550
hashtag V for V. Anonymous 5000
SATs through pod verse he says

1341
01:27:50,580 --> 01:27:55,770
LoL is sending notes through
PayPal. I've had better luck

1342
01:27:55,770 --> 01:27:58,650
sending cash through the post
office. Thanks, God. Thank God

1343
01:27:58,650 --> 01:28:03,300
for booster grants. No, no one
from anonymous sleepovers. I

1344
01:28:03,300 --> 01:28:05,850
still don't understand this
aversion to equating V for V

1345
01:28:05,850 --> 01:28:09,840
with tipping. If V for V isn't
tipping, wouldn't it mean that

1346
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:13,200
tipping your server isn't leave
for V. I've seen the kind of

1347
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:15,660
money earned by good servers
compared to their hourly co

1348
01:28:15,660 --> 01:28:18,630
workers believe me, there's no
shame in working for tips. While

1349
01:28:18,630 --> 01:28:22,560
Adam Curry: a podcast is not
just the serve the serving of

1350
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:26,730
the podcast, it's the whole
meal. So you're getting a whole

1351
01:28:26,730 --> 01:28:30,150
meal and the servers in one but
you're not being charged

1352
01:28:30,150 --> 01:28:31,110
anything upfront.

1353
01:28:31,530 --> 01:28:34,740
Dave Jones: That's the waiter
and the maitre d all wrapped up

1354
01:28:34,740 --> 01:28:37,320
into one and the restaurant and
the recipe in the restaurant.

1355
01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:42,390
Yes. Jean been 20 to 22 through
cast Maddie says please keep in

1356
01:28:42,390 --> 01:28:46,560
mind that some of us don't use
stats for advertising. Yes. In

1357
01:28:46,590 --> 01:28:49,650
to clarify my comments from last
week. I only used advertising as

1358
01:28:49,650 --> 01:28:55,200
my exempt my core examples
because advertising there was an

1359
01:28:55,200 --> 01:28:59,160
accusation made against Mitch
that he was quote defrauding

1360
01:28:59,160 --> 01:29:04,500
advertisers and so I that was
the core of my argument.

1361
01:29:04,950 --> 01:29:09,210
Understood but but yeah, but we
use them we use them to have

1362
01:29:09,210 --> 01:29:11,850
some insight into if people are
listening as you will know

1363
01:29:11,850 --> 01:29:15,030
listener engagement is tiny for
most podcasters and the stats

1364
01:29:15,150 --> 01:29:18,090
are all we got and all like
downloads is a stat but I don't

1365
01:29:18,090 --> 01:29:21,930
have anything else. That's all
you got. That's that is true as

1366
01:29:22,590 --> 01:29:26,370
if that's what if you want to
know things gene been 2222 A

1367
01:29:26,370 --> 01:29:29,160
says as a follow up I sure hope
the activity streams ideas come

1368
01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:32,220
to fruition in a way that
provides meaningful statistics,

1369
01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:34,470
irrespective of what ad tech
cares about.

1370
01:29:34,740 --> 01:29:38,820
Adam Curry: It could and it'll
be listeners choice to opt into

1371
01:29:38,820 --> 01:29:41,910
it and I can see why they would
do that if you ask them.

1372
01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:46,260
Dave Jones: And we got we got a
delimiter comic strip blogger

1373
01:29:46,260 --> 01:29:53,370
2000 SATs. He says, all our
gringos Adam and Dave, dive into

1374
01:29:53,370 --> 01:29:56,940
a captivating podcast with Jean
and Ben, where they explore a

1375
01:29:56,940 --> 01:30:01,620
variety of topics from gun shows
to genetics societal issues and

1376
01:30:01,620 --> 01:30:04,980
the science behind COVID
vaccines. For more information

1377
01:30:04,980 --> 01:30:09,360
about this podcast please visit
their website at www just two

1378
01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:13,650
good old boys.com or search for
just two good old boys and your

1379
01:30:13,650 --> 01:30:16,050
preferred podcast app. Yo CSB.

1380
01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:18,660
Adam Curry: Yo CSB promoting all
the podcasts. Thank you,

1381
01:30:18,660 --> 01:30:21,540
brother. Appreciate Thank you
got monthly bonus

1382
01:30:21,570 --> 01:30:23,490
Dave Jones: yet we got some
others. You got a pot. We got

1383
01:30:23,490 --> 01:30:26,550
pod page. That's Brendan over
there, pod page. $25. Thank you,

1384
01:30:26,550 --> 01:30:30,630
Brandon. Thank you. Cameron rose
longtime been with us forever

1385
01:30:30,630 --> 01:30:34,050
cameras. $25. Thank you,
Cameron, and Chad Farrow. The

1386
01:30:34,050 --> 01:30:37,110
marketing $20.22

1387
01:30:38,310 --> 01:30:40,200
Adam Curry: not to pay a pound
Hey pal ducks.

1388
01:30:41,430 --> 01:30:45,990
Dave Jones: Randall black $5.
Joseph maraca $5 Emilio Cano,

1389
01:30:45,990 --> 01:30:51,840
Molina $4, Martin Landeskog $1
and Mark Graham $1.

1390
01:30:52,590 --> 01:30:54,900
Adam Curry: Wow, thank you all
very much. It is value for

1391
01:30:54,900 --> 01:30:57,720
value. The value has been great
today. We appreciate it. Of

1392
01:30:57,720 --> 01:31:02,940
course, we put blueberry and
Eric peepee in the splits today

1393
01:31:02,970 --> 01:31:06,840
to make all of these all those
wonderful sounds come alive and

1394
01:31:07,140 --> 01:31:10,950
to share the value of course, if
you want to support podcasting

1395
01:31:10,950 --> 01:31:15,330
2.0 Not just this podcast, but
the entire project go to podcast

1396
01:31:15,330 --> 01:31:19,620
index.org down at the bottom to
read donation buttons one is for

1397
01:31:19,620 --> 01:31:25,500
the Whoa. Looks like whoa. Looks
like we got some tally coin some

1398
01:31:25,500 --> 01:31:32,820
unchained coin. Know where Yeah,
we got 33,010 Satoshis from

1399
01:31:32,820 --> 01:31:37,620
anonymous. Yesterday and on
March 25. Keep it up. breedings

1400
01:31:37,620 --> 01:31:43,650
from the Netherlands lightning
places.com 74,506 SATs.

1401
01:31:44,790 --> 01:31:49,290
Unknown: Sakala 20 is Blaze only
Ambala. There is also

1402
01:31:49,290 --> 01:31:50,400
Adam Curry: a button. I'm sorry.

1403
01:31:51,180 --> 01:31:53,610
Dave Jones: What is that? What
is lightning places that

1404
01:31:53,700 --> 01:31:56,460
Adam Curry: I have no idea. But
something in the Netherlands?

1405
01:31:57,840 --> 01:32:01,290
Let me see lightning places.com.

1406
01:32:01,320 --> 01:32:03,420
Dave Jones: Let's see. Let's
probably in Netherlands,

1407
01:32:03,810 --> 01:32:07,350
Adam Curry: I get a website that
says lightning places.com Coming

1408
01:32:07,350 --> 01:32:11,220
soon. So they're coming soon.
All right,

1409
01:32:11,220 --> 01:32:15,270
Dave Jones: some pre launch
marketed as work and there's

1410
01:32:15,270 --> 01:32:18,240
Adam Curry: also a red donate
button for your Fiat fun coupons

1411
01:32:18,240 --> 01:32:20,910
through the PayPal. We accept
those Of course. Thank you all

1412
01:32:20,910 --> 01:32:24,600
so much for supporting us. We
are here for the community and

1413
01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:27,840
we are proud of the legacy we'll
all be leaving look at these

1414
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:31,230
young kids like blueberry coming
up who we thank, of course, for

1415
01:32:31,470 --> 01:32:36,030
for being on the show today. And
our and our entire boardroom.

1416
01:32:36,030 --> 01:32:40,200
Thank you for joining us. We do
it live every single Friday

1417
01:32:40,200 --> 01:32:44,730
afternoon. And I hope we'll have
one next week. Dave because as

1418
01:32:44,730 --> 01:32:48,510
you know, we are in the totality
zone here in Fredericksburg,

1419
01:32:48,510 --> 01:32:53,880
Texas. And you know, we've got
the big the big solar eclipse

1420
01:32:53,880 --> 01:32:57,900
happening on Monday and who
knows if we'll survive it.

1421
01:32:58,560 --> 01:33:00,720
Dave Jones: That's gonna be a
bust because it's gonna be

1422
01:33:00,720 --> 01:33:02,250
overcast. It's I

1423
01:33:02,250 --> 01:33:06,570
Adam Curry: know 40% chance of
rain, overcast? No,

1424
01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:09,690
Dave Jones: although many
millions of dollars were made on

1425
01:33:09,720 --> 01:33:12,630
eclipse glasses for a thing that
you're not even gonna be able to

1426
01:33:12,630 --> 01:33:14,190
see. Yeah,

1427
01:33:14,220 --> 01:33:16,620
Adam Curry: well, there's
there's it was a it was a big

1428
01:33:16,620 --> 01:33:20,370
hype, I think was overhyped,
despite the wet even before the

1429
01:33:20,370 --> 01:33:23,790
weather reports we were seeing
in Fredericksburg that the

1430
01:33:23,850 --> 01:33:27,240
hotels were not fully booked up
the Airbnbs were not fully

1431
01:33:27,240 --> 01:33:30,120
booked up. So I think people
just got to a point where I'm

1432
01:33:30,120 --> 01:33:32,310
like crazy if the end of the
world's coming I want to be at

1433
01:33:32,310 --> 01:33:38,340
home with my fridge. I want to
watch TV. I don't buy don't have

1434
01:33:38,340 --> 01:33:40,950
to be a part of the destruction.
Although we did get that nice

1435
01:33:40,950 --> 01:33:44,580
earthquake in the New York tri
state area today. It was kind of

1436
01:33:44,580 --> 01:33:49,800
interesting. That's rare this,
I'd say it's very rare. I lived

1437
01:33:49,800 --> 01:33:52,440
there for many years. I can't
remember an earthquake in the

1438
01:33:52,440 --> 01:33:55,530
New York area. So we

1439
01:33:55,620 --> 01:33:58,830
Dave Jones: we didn't even mean
we didn't even scratch one. We

1440
01:33:58,830 --> 01:34:01,770
didn't even hit one thing on my
on my notes. But I did want to

1441
01:34:02,160 --> 01:34:07,440
like there's like 100 things I
wanted to talk about. But I

1442
01:34:07,440 --> 01:34:10,950
didn't want to say thank you to
Eric PP and Steven crater, they

1443
01:34:10,950 --> 01:34:16,260
fixed the TLV missing episode
guity. Yes, thank you very much

1444
01:34:16,290 --> 01:34:22,710
on Win Win from the PR website.
And I'm hoping I'm hoping next

1445
01:34:22,980 --> 01:34:25,710
next week since we'll have we
won't have a guest next week. So

1446
01:34:25,710 --> 01:34:29,130
I'm hoping that we'll be able to
dig into I want to talk about

1447
01:34:29,130 --> 01:34:33,660
the part the our podcasts index
dashboard. Yes, because I've

1448
01:34:33,660 --> 01:34:37,020
been digging into that a lot
because I want to talk about how

1449
01:34:37,050 --> 01:34:42,870
how we're going to use that.
Okay, and then, you know, we had

1450
01:34:42,930 --> 01:34:49,140
this we, we did the publisher
feed spec this morning, I put

1451
01:34:49,140 --> 01:34:54,690
put that into the namespace as a
as a draft. Yeah. So we'll we'll

1452
01:34:54,690 --> 01:34:56,070
talk about that too. Yeah,

1453
01:34:56,100 --> 01:34:59,070
Adam Curry: maybe the music tags
and all that stuff comes along

1454
01:34:59,070 --> 01:34:59,970
with the category

1455
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:02,820
Dave Jones: He has so much to
talk about Yeah. Yeah so much

1456
01:35:02,820 --> 01:35:07,050
Tommy the cat the categories
because that that seems to be

1457
01:35:07,050 --> 01:35:10,200
the gist of what is needed right
now we need the publisher stuff

1458
01:35:10,590 --> 01:35:15,600
there and we need the music.
Like not It's not specifically

1459
01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:18,630
from us we need some of these
keyword category type things.

1460
01:35:18,630 --> 01:35:21,690
Yeah. Yep. Think about that next
week.

1461
01:35:21,990 --> 01:35:24,420
Adam Curry: Okay, well, you
know, I'm glad it's just you and

1462
01:35:24,420 --> 01:35:27,390
me next week you bring your
agenda and I'll just sit back

1463
01:35:27,390 --> 01:35:28,890
and make snide comments.

1464
01:35:29,580 --> 01:35:34,080
Dave Jones: Okay typical border
Yeah,

1465
01:35:34,110 --> 01:35:36,240
Adam Curry: yeah, the way we
usually run my brother I love

1466
01:35:36,240 --> 01:35:39,510
you thank you so much for for
taking your lunch break to do

1467
01:35:39,510 --> 01:35:42,990
this. You going back I presume a
lot more to do before April 15.

1468
01:35:43,020 --> 01:35:43,710
Pretty busy.

1469
01:35:44,430 --> 01:35:46,800
Dave Jones: Yep. Yeah. And
hopefully hopefully, yeah, this

1470
01:35:46,800 --> 01:35:49,830
is this is straggler week. All
the people that are hair on

1471
01:35:49,830 --> 01:35:51,780
fire. Oh my god, can you do my
taxes?

1472
01:35:53,370 --> 01:35:57,000
Adam Curry: Alright brother,
take care. Everybody in the

1473
01:35:57,000 --> 01:35:59,250
boardroom. Thank you for being
here. We'll see you next Friday

1474
01:35:59,250 --> 01:36:00,270
right here on podcasts.

1475
01:36:17,100 --> 01:36:21,660
Unknown: You have been listening
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1476
01:36:21,690 --> 01:36:25,770
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01:36:26,790 --> 01:36:28,740
Dave Jones: This is not good for
my mental health.