What Happens in Antarctica Affects You More Than You Think

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What if some of the most important

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warning signs about our planet are

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happening in one of the

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hardest places on earth to reach?

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Antarctica may feel distant,

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frozen, and disconnected from

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everyday life, but what happens there can

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shape sea level rise, ocean circulation,

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climate systems, and the future health of

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our marine ecosystems

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around the world. The challenge

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is that Antarctica is one of the least

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observed places on the

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planet, and that is starting to

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change. In this episode of the How to

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Protect the Ocean podcast,

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part of our ongoing Surfacing

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Secrets Explore the Ocean, Know the

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Planet series with Ocean

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Networks Canada, we go behind the

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scenes of an incredible international

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mission to install

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real-time ocean monitoring systems

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in Antarctica. Joining me from Spain was

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Juan Ho and from Ocean

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Networks Canada was Ruchi and

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Bradley to talk about what it takes to

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build observatories at the

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edge of the world, why the

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data matters and how global collaboration

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is helping us understand

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a rapidly changing ocean

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before it's too late. Here's the

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interview with Juan Ho, Ruchi, and

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Bradley. Enjoy it and

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I'll talk to you after.

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Hey Juan Ho, Ruchi, and Bradley, welcome

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to the How to Protect the Ocean podcast.

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Are you ready to talk about

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monitoring in Antarctica?

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Sure. We're always ready.

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Alright, I love it. This is going to be a

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lot of fun because this is part of our

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collaboration with Ocean Networks Canada,

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and there was a recent trip to Antarctica

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where you guys installed some really

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great monitoring tools

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and you got to work in

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Antarctica. So we're going to talk about

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what the program is all

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about, what it's like to work in

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Antarctica and to get there and

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everything and then come back and just

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start decompressing and

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figure out what it's like

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to live in a world where you have

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everything. So we're going to talk all

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about that on today's

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episode. I can't wait to do that.

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I am a professor while I'm in the lake.

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I've been engaged in marine science and

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technology for the last 40 years,

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more or less, or even a little bit more.

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So I've been doing a lot of things since

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the start of my career.

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I did a PhD about the origin of the

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Canary Island. It's an intraplate

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volcanic archipelago.

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And then I've been working all over

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Europe and in America as well in Canada

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and Mexico. In Europe

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I've been working in Barcelona, in

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Madrid, in Cambridge, in Paris, in

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Netherlands, in Rome.

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During this time, well, the important

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thing is just to

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summarize a little bit, is in

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2000 the president of the research

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council appointed me just to make a big

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change in the marine

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science and technology in my country in

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Spain and to set up the proper tools for

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people to do research,

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which is equal to say a powerful research

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vessels and at least a very

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wonderful Antarctic station

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in Livestong Island in Antarctica.

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Indeed, it was already is already 38

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years old, the Antarctic station.

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And when we did a big important

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renovation of the station. And now, well,

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as you know, because Ruchi and Brad

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and you were there, it's a very modern

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station with a very good

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communication, comfortable.

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And in terms of energy, very efficient

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because we do a co-generation using

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heating and electricity at the same time.

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Antarctica you should take care and we

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implement our self like

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most of the station is to

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to have a minimum impact from the from

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anthropogenic impact.

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And well, I just finished by my

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implication in the subsea observatory was

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related with my position in Rome as the

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director general for the

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European Multisciplinary Sea for

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observatories. I set up a system from the

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Arctic through the

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Atlantic to the Black Sea.

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this connection between us and Network

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Canada because they

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have this is the bigger

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supersea laboratory cable supersea

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laboratory. And in Europe, we try to

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simulate something similar, very modest

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compared to what you did in Canada.

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And this is the reason why we have an

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incredible, beautiful and powerful

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collaboration between us and Network

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Canada and the National

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Research Council in Spain.

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Let's stop here. That's perfect. Thank

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you so much. Ruchi, how about yourself?

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Hello, everyone. My name is Ruchi Gustan.

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I'm a marine equipment specialist from

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Ocean Network Canada. I belong to a group

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called the Test and Development Group.

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And my background is electronics

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engineering. And I'm one of the designers

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of the first station that we

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deployed in the Southern Ocean.

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Very nice. Very nice. And Brad, how about

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yourself? Good morning, everyone. I'm

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Bradley. I'm part of the field services

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team at Ocean Network Canada.

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I'm an engineer on it. I helped to design

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the deployment method and how we're going

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to get the observatory from land into the

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water and also working.

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Nice, very nice. Awesome. Okay, so let's

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start off. I know one whole you get it

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gave us a little bit of a description of

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the station that's in Antarctica. Can you

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just talk about the

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explain the overall project?

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solve by monitoring in Antarctica? Yeah,

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well, indeed, these three years ago. So

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these are what third trial. And this is

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something absolutely normal when you are

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far away from everywhere,

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which is the case of Antarctica.

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and engineers is we don't have any

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shopping 1000 kilometers around. So be

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sure when you make your checklist that

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you put everything which is needed.

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imagination and invention what we have.

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important. And then we decide to get out

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with experience with the people like Brad

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and routine to set up a modest, let's

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say, subsea observatory in Antarctica.

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don't have anyone. And the second reason

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Antarctica is becoming a place where we

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can detect the primary location.

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related with the health of the oceans,

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climate change, global change. And by

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putting the adequate sensor, this is what

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even, and we have different we talk about

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how we pass this information.

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salinity and pressure and many other

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different essential ocean variables. This

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is the key point to understand how the

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ocean is evolving and how important is

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that for us to provide this information

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to the policymakers here to

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say, well, we have one ocean.

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it. If not, something is going to be

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wrong in this planet. Absolutely. You

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mentioned earlier that the the project,

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the collaboration happened with Ocean

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Network Canada, because they were such a

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there were such leaders in the space of

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undersea observatory, especially with

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cables using cables. How did that

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partnership come together, though? Did

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you reach out to someone at Ocean Network

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Canada or did they reach out to you? How

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do or did you reach out to them?

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we are not a such a huge community. So we

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know each other all

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we have been global since the beginning

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because we're changing information data

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between continent, between countries,

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between seas and in particular in this

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case between Canada and Spain.

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polar science and marine science has been

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and it is wonderful.

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which is very important when you have a

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good relation between different teams,

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everything is smooth and easy to to set

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up whatever. And then we have only one

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focus is to work together in the best way

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possible and to get out

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of our common knowledge.

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the global escape because as you can

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imagine, ocean is global by definition.

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mentioned earlier in our in our previous

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talks that, you know, it was it was

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Antarctica and set up a subsea.

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the problems in just working in

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Antarctica itself and some of the

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problems that initiate this trip that

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that made this trip sort of worthwhile

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and like, you know, what you learned from

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that in terms of the past, what's

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happened in the past?

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Sure. Yeah. So in the in the past, we

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deployed to one observatories there and

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they lasted for a while. But then they

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they died likely from icebergs, we think

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floating icebergs floating

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along and cutting the cables.

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crazy amount of cable protection of like

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thick steel pipe that we wrapped the

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cable on and then deploy that to the

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surface and that protects

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the cable from the icebergs.

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was 2000 kilograms or something like

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that. So that was a logistically

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challenging and also challenging for us

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to figure out a way to deploy that in the

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water where we want

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without a large vessel.

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second one went much better.

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two observatories, you know, people be

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You just talk about, you know, why you

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guys put into two observatories and, you

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better about it, really.

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Yeah, so I think I think yes, one is is

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redundancy for sure. And the second one

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is doubling of the capacity of data

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capture. So and and not only that, we are

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also like positioning the sensors

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strategically at different depths now.

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So that we have a better view of how the

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mixing of the freshwater coming out from

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the glacier and the saltwater coming into

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that basin, like how the dynamics is

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going on and then hopefully using the

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data would be able to assess the impact

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of the glacier melt and the saltwater

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coming in into the local ecosystem and

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how it impacts the, you know, the the the

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circulation as a whole, if we can feed

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that data to the model.

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Yeah, that's gonna be very important,

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especially as there's more more melt

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happening due due to climate change and

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one well, like, you know, we just talked

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a little bit about, you know, how this is

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going to impact. We're wondering how it's

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going to impact this

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this this bay essentially.

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Can you just talk a little bit about what

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type of data you're collecting and what

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do you hope to what trends do you hope to

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see or or or find out

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in terms of the project?

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Well, indeed, this is a trial because if

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we want to what we are doing normally,

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not only at the European level, but also

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at the level of Canada is to to have

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these subsea observatories more or less

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at the depth between

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2000 and even 3000 meters.

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And this is important because we know

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what is happening on the surface, but we

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have no much idea about what is happening

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on the bottom of the sea floor that

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affected dramatically

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the surface by all means.

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I mean, climate change,

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also circulation, whatsoever.

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In whatever case, it's a very good idea

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to have a monitoring station. I with the

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one we set up finally in Antarctica in

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the Spanish station to understand how the

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is the operation of different parameters.

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For instance, something that we know that

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is happening already is that this an

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increase melting of ice everywhere.

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I mean, everywhere means in North Pole

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and South Pole in particular in

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Antarctica. So we are having a huge

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amount of fresh water coming into the

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ocean and these make a completely

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different behavior of the ocean because

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by doing that, the the as much the water

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is less dense and is handling the sinking

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of the water masses.

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And this may affect completely the

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Antarctic bottle water, which is

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connected with a more, which is a very

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famous Atlantic, meridian ocean, current,

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which is the current which

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control claim in on Earth.

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So a little bit of a slowdown, which is

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that many of the scientists are claiming

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in both in the northern hemisphere and in

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the shoulders hemisphere may produce a

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drastic and dramatic change in the

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weather in the climate.

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But on top of the weather, there is also

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a smoothly change, which is happening

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about the hell be or hell chemical

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condition in the water column that

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affects life on at sea. And this is a

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process which is have many different

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consequences at all

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levels and all latitudes.

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Yeah. How's the data like that you get

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from this? How's it going to be used?

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Like, is it going to be implemented into

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models that your team has? Or is it part

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of a bigger, bigger, bigger project?

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I think it's part of the bigger project.

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Yeah, I think indeed, one of the beauties

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of this collaboration is that we are

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working together for the rest of the

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planet. So we as far as I know, we don't

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have any restriction for any scientist

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who is looking for a better planet.

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We don't have any restriction for any

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scientist who is looking for some data in

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Antarctica or in in in the Pacific where

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Neptune cable is working. And this is the

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beauty of the scientists because we

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spread very fast the data to

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the rest of the scientists.

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And this is the reason why science can

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progress very fast because we can talk to

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each other with the same data, not like

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others. Exactly. No, it makes such a

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makes such a big difference. A

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difference. Ruchi, can you just talk a

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little bit about how the data gets from

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Antarctica to, I believe, it's ocean

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networks, Canada and then to the world.

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Yeah, so currently there are two paths

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that the data goes through. So the one of

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the path and the main path is a

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satellite. So the data from the shore

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station is transmitted to a satellite.

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We're using a redeem right now.

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And from the satellite gets sent to ocean

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networks, kind of the servers. And then

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from there, we grab that data and then

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make that available through the oceans

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three point level platform.

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And that data is open. It's open to

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everyone. Any scientist around the world

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can use that. And the second part is

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through the radio frequency link. So we

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installed an antenna Mount Sophia in

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Livingston Island, where the data gets

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transmitted from the shore station.

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And then from that antenna, it's received

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to the the one Carlos Uno base and stored

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into their local server. And then from

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time to time, we we get the data from

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them because it's a very it's a highly

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secured server. Right. We have requested

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exclusively from from our Spanish

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partners to get the data.

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Okay, let's just talk a little bit about

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the preparation for the trip. Now, Juan,

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whoa, you've been to Antarctica a number

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of times. You've you know

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how to prep for this trip.

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Like, we'll talk to we'll talk to Brad

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and Ruchi about what it was like for them

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for the first time going and how they

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prep. But I would love to hear, you know,

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just in the overall general sense, like,

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you know, for a project like this, where

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my understanding is, you know, on the

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boat, it wasn't just this project, there

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were multiple other

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projects that were going on.

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Can you just talk about what the

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preparation is like when you're when

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you're doing a multi

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project sort of program like this?

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Yeah, well, indeed, any small project in

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Antarctica is a big challenge. Doesn't

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matter if it's small or not. I mean, the

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question is the main point. And Brad and

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Ruchi knows very well is preparation. We

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need to prepare everything

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minimum. Have a year in advance.

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At the end, there is always things coming

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in the last nanosecond, let's say. But on

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the other hand, it is important to make a

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very good checklist and to make all the

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combination of different issues,

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different sensors, different capacities,

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different scientists at

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the level of the logistic.

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Because in comparison with other places

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in northern Canada or in the Arctic, the

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only way to reach Antarctica is by using

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strong logistic vehicles like research

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vessels or planes, which are not very

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easy because they are

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very, very few small airports.

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And this depends on the very much on the

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weather condition to be sure if you can

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reach or not in whatever case, whatever

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you go in Antarctica. You need again

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sooner or later a result vessel.

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Well, in our particular case, we go our

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main position in South America, Punta

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Arenas in Chile and Ushuaia in Argentina.

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And then we need to cross the Drake

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Passage, which the bad

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weather is sure is always there.

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And for big resale buses, rather big

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because between 80 and 100 meters length

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is relatively big, but I mean, it's small

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in the ocean. Everything is small. But we

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have been using until recently supply

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buses, which are much smaller and very

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difficult to handle.

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And they need to wait to have a window

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between two bad storms because there is

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one behind the other. So the only

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possibility is to have a very good

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weather report and say, well, now is the

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moment to be in between two storms.

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Right.

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Which is the usual case. Well, I have

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been crossing the great passage of the

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north and 20 times probably. Yeah. And

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the wave could be between 15 and 20

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meters high. So cross. So most of the

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time, the people are lying in bed.

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I'm not because I am you since I am very

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young to say and I always go to the

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kitchen, say, where's my food? No food

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today. It's not allowed to cook anything.

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So and then once we are in Antarctica,

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the the challenge is to to deploy

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everything using Saudi small boat because

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the large vessel, they cannot reach close

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to the to the to the station. And then we

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have another risk. This is the more risky

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place or point when we are transferring

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all the material and people from the

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research vessel to the station. We are

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very used. But as I always tell to the

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engineers and technicians, it doesn't

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matter. And it doesn't matter if we're

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used. We need to have a lot of respect to

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the sea and to the ice, both because we

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never had any accident.

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And because we have a lot of protocols

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and we follow strictly the protocols,

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even if I have some anecdote because I

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set up many protocols when I was

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responsible of Antarctic station.

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And one of the protocols was that you are

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not allowed to get out of the station

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alone. You need to have with somebody

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else. You need to to tell to the head of

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the station. But I once I tried to be

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alone and say, this is not allowed

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because you said you put it there.

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So you should follow the rules like

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everybody else. And I

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say, of course, of course.

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Well, I worked up in the Arctic before

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and I know the protocols there were very

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strict as well. You know, one, you don't

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want to touch that water for too long.

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It's very cold to you just never know

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what's going to happen at sea. Exactly.

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You know, even if you're using a small

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boat to go from, you know, ship to shore,

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you just never know what could happen.

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And ice as small as as a little rock can

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can tear a hole in a boat. You just never

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know. So if it's if your boat's not ready

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for for ice. So there's a

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lot of stuff to go over.

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But if you fall into the water, you have

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a few minutes, only a few minutes there.

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So yeah. Yeah. And everybody knows this.

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So we take care of this and we take care

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about everybody as Brad and Ruchi knows

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very well. Yeah, absolutely.

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And speaking of which, you know, Brad,

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we'll start off with you in terms of like

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the prep first time going, you know, with

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Juan Juan's team, you know, they've gone

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a number of times, you know, this is your

542
00:22:42,833 --> 00:22:45,166
first time going, you're prepping. At

543
00:22:45,166 --> 00:22:47,250
what point did you start to think like,

544
00:22:47,250 --> 00:22:49,250
this is going to be really remote.

545
00:22:49,291 --> 00:22:52,625
And like, I need to make sure I have

546
00:22:52,625 --> 00:22:55,000
everything like like did did one on his

547
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,583
team kind of prep you guys a little bit

548
00:22:56,583 --> 00:22:58,250
in terms of like, hey, make sure you have

549
00:22:58,250 --> 00:23:00,500
everything or were you just kind of

550
00:23:00,500 --> 00:23:01,583
realizing it throughout the

551
00:23:01,583 --> 00:23:03,000
prep or a little bit of both?

552
00:23:03,916 --> 00:23:06,041
A little bit of both for sure. We, you

553
00:23:06,041 --> 00:23:08,250
know, we we had the idea that going to

554
00:23:08,250 --> 00:23:09,875
enter guys a little bit crazy and we

555
00:23:09,875 --> 00:23:11,500
probably need to bring over the equipment

556
00:23:11,500 --> 00:23:15,083
necessary. Yeah. We we also knew that the

557
00:23:15,083 --> 00:23:17,166
base was there. And now now that we've

558
00:23:17,166 --> 00:23:18,250
been there, the base is really well done.

559
00:23:18,291 --> 00:23:20,125
The base is really well stocked. So of

560
00:23:20,125 --> 00:23:21,541
course, you know, bring your own stuff

561
00:23:21,541 --> 00:23:22,791
and make sure you have everything you

562
00:23:22,791 --> 00:23:24,583
need. But like the tools and a lot of the

563
00:23:24,583 --> 00:23:26,541
equipment we needed was there already. So

564
00:23:26,541 --> 00:23:27,208
we might bring a

565
00:23:27,208 --> 00:23:28,375
little bit less next time.

566
00:23:29,166 --> 00:23:34,250
But for for for pieces we need for the

567
00:23:34,250 --> 00:23:36,458
observatory, those we all

568
00:23:36,458 --> 00:23:38,083
we bring what's the saying.

569
00:23:39,291 --> 00:23:42,541
One is none and two is one to you need to

570
00:23:42,541 --> 00:23:44,333
to make sure because if anything breaks

571
00:23:44,333 --> 00:23:45,958
and you're there like one who said

572
00:23:45,958 --> 00:23:47,500
there's there's no store. You're not

573
00:23:47,500 --> 00:23:49,458
you're not buying another one. It's you

574
00:23:49,458 --> 00:23:51,750
need to either bring the stuff, bring

575
00:23:51,750 --> 00:23:52,875
extra or bring what

576
00:23:52,875 --> 00:23:54,541
you need to make extra.

577
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,708
So, yeah, that's definitely something we

578
00:23:57,708 --> 00:23:59,333
think about as we're packing those boxes

579
00:23:59,333 --> 00:24:00,291
that could shift off.

580
00:24:00,291 --> 00:24:01,250
Yeah, that's amazing.

581
00:24:01,291 --> 00:24:02,666
Richie, how about yourself? What were

582
00:24:02,666 --> 00:24:04,541
your thoughts, you know, like prepping

583
00:24:04,541 --> 00:24:06,625
for this trip? Yeah, I think I think we

584
00:24:06,625 --> 00:24:09,250
can, you know, like over prepped a little

585
00:24:09,250 --> 00:24:10,833
bit because it's our first time. We don't

586
00:24:10,833 --> 00:24:12,666
really know what's what's going to

587
00:24:12,666 --> 00:24:15,166
happen. But the good thing is that

588
00:24:15,166 --> 00:24:17,916
there's so many people on the ship who's

589
00:24:17,916 --> 00:24:18,750
had experience

590
00:24:18,750 --> 00:24:20,250
already working at the base.

591
00:24:20,291 --> 00:24:24,166
So we talked to them and like, you know,

592
00:24:24,166 --> 00:24:25,708
we learned new things from them and we

593
00:24:25,708 --> 00:24:29,833
started like thinking through what fine

594
00:24:29,833 --> 00:24:31,791
tuning we need to be in our plan to

595
00:24:31,791 --> 00:24:34,083
account for that. Like, okay, so we

596
00:24:34,083 --> 00:24:36,791
brought two of these. Okay, we don't have

597
00:24:36,791 --> 00:24:38,541
to bring this in the field. We can leave

598
00:24:38,541 --> 00:24:41,583
this at the base kind of thing. Yeah, I

599
00:24:41,583 --> 00:24:43,250
think it really helped a lot.

600
00:24:43,291 --> 00:24:47,041
You know, like talking to the experts on

601
00:24:47,041 --> 00:24:51,000
the ship help us a lot. Pancha our plans

602
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,958
as we went into the field during the few

603
00:24:54,958 --> 00:24:57,291
days. Awesome. Now, I'm thinking about

604
00:24:57,291 --> 00:24:59,916
the platform that you're putting all the

605
00:24:59,916 --> 00:25:00,833
instruments you're putting together.

606
00:25:01,250 --> 00:25:02,458
It's got to be pretty heavy. It's got to

607
00:25:02,458 --> 00:25:04,500
be pretty bulky at times. You're trying

608
00:25:04,500 --> 00:25:06,708
to manage, you know, thinking about what

609
00:25:06,708 --> 00:25:08,041
the ship is going to be like. There's

610
00:25:08,041 --> 00:25:09,208
other projects on the ship.

611
00:25:10,583 --> 00:25:12,458
So, Rishi, how do you how do you sort of

612
00:25:12,458 --> 00:25:14,833
prep for that part of it, like to for the

613
00:25:14,833 --> 00:25:16,416
space that you'll have to put your

614
00:25:16,416 --> 00:25:19,250
equipment and the weight of it as well as

615
00:25:19,250 --> 00:25:20,000
you mentioned earlier?

616
00:25:21,291 --> 00:25:23,875
So, luckily, we have a very good

617
00:25:23,875 --> 00:25:27,583
logistics team at the ONC and also very

618
00:25:27,583 --> 00:25:30,708
good logistics team at UTM CSIC, the

619
00:25:30,708 --> 00:25:33,875
Spanish Research Team. And they

620
00:25:33,875 --> 00:25:39,166
coordinated and when we appeared in Punta

621
00:25:39,166 --> 00:25:40,541
Arenas, when we arrived in Punta Arenas,

622
00:25:40,916 --> 00:25:42,041
all of the logistics

623
00:25:42,041 --> 00:25:43,250
have been handled already.

624
00:25:43,291 --> 00:25:46,291
All that I needed to do is just go into

625
00:25:46,291 --> 00:25:48,916
the sea camp and check, make sure that

626
00:25:48,916 --> 00:25:51,416
you have all the boxes in there. And then

627
00:25:51,416 --> 00:25:54,541
when we arrived at the base, all of these

628
00:25:54,541 --> 00:25:56,458
boxes has to be had to

629
00:25:56,458 --> 00:25:58,166
be transported via Zodiac.

630
00:25:58,791 --> 00:26:00,541
So I had to be there and and probably

631
00:26:00,541 --> 00:26:02,041
have to be there to just to make sure

632
00:26:02,041 --> 00:26:04,250
that we have everything unloaded. Right.

633
00:26:04,583 --> 00:26:06,291
The ship is to ship once everything is

634
00:26:06,291 --> 00:26:08,333
unloaded the ship will go somewhere else.

635
00:26:08,625 --> 00:26:10,791
And we had to be absolutely sure that we

636
00:26:10,791 --> 00:26:12,250
have everything unloaded.

637
00:26:12,291 --> 00:26:16,083
From the ship into the base. Gotcha.

638
00:26:16,083 --> 00:26:18,041
Yeah, indeed. Well, one of the things

639
00:26:18,041 --> 00:26:20,916
that I mentioned always sees that in

640
00:26:20,916 --> 00:26:23,416
Antarctica, everybody help each other.

641
00:26:24,333 --> 00:26:26,625
And normally before asking who you are,

642
00:26:26,625 --> 00:26:27,250
they are what you need.

643
00:26:27,291 --> 00:26:30,500
And this is something very nice. Never

644
00:26:30,500 --> 00:26:33,041
happened anywhere else. And in

645
00:26:33,041 --> 00:26:37,083
particular, loading the equipment is

646
00:26:37,083 --> 00:26:39,708
critical simply because we are many

647
00:26:39,708 --> 00:26:42,666
different research projects. So it is

648
00:26:42,666 --> 00:26:44,125
very important to know

649
00:26:44,125 --> 00:26:46,000
the sequence of the project.

650
00:26:46,500 --> 00:26:49,750
And these depend on how you load the

651
00:26:49,750 --> 00:26:53,250
vessel, because unloading depend on when

652
00:26:53,250 --> 00:26:54,958
they are going to use the equipment,

653
00:26:54,958 --> 00:26:56,583
because sometimes happened that for

654
00:26:56,583 --> 00:26:58,833
whatever reason, the ship needs to go

655
00:26:58,833 --> 00:27:01,291
somewhere else because the ships and most

656
00:27:01,291 --> 00:27:03,666
of the time our ships are doing dual

657
00:27:03,666 --> 00:27:08,291
work, which is transporting people and

658
00:27:08,291 --> 00:27:09,916
tools and doing research.

659
00:27:11,583 --> 00:27:13,708
Which is something that we need to

660
00:27:13,708 --> 00:27:16,916
improve on not only we, but the world,

661
00:27:17,166 --> 00:27:19,625
because this is stupid sometimes from my

662
00:27:19,625 --> 00:27:23,083
viewpoint is if you have a Ferrari, you

663
00:27:23,083 --> 00:27:25,791
don't use the Ferrari as a taxi, no, you

664
00:27:25,791 --> 00:27:27,750
use the Ferrari to do races.

665
00:27:28,500 --> 00:27:31,250
And sometimes we have a beautiful polar

666
00:27:31,250 --> 00:27:33,458
reserve vessel doing transportation and

667
00:27:33,458 --> 00:27:35,083
say, well, this can be done by somebody

668
00:27:35,083 --> 00:27:38,541
else. No, not very simple. But, OK, we

669
00:27:38,541 --> 00:27:40,250
improve. But when I say we,

670
00:27:40,291 --> 00:27:43,875
this is at the world level, I mean,

671
00:27:44,166 --> 00:27:46,833
everybody is because there's a lot of

672
00:27:46,833 --> 00:27:53,333
strategy logistics. And in any case, if

673
00:27:53,333 --> 00:27:55,625
you have a problem there and you sign a

674
00:27:55,625 --> 00:27:58,750
call, everybody help you immediately.

675
00:27:59,166 --> 00:28:01,833
I mean, this is a nanoseconds for to

676
00:28:01,833 --> 00:28:04,250
respond to help you. Absolutely. And

677
00:28:04,250 --> 00:28:06,583
speaking of which, Brad, why don't you

678
00:28:06,583 --> 00:28:08,000
just talk a little bit about like, you

679
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:08,875
guys are two people

680
00:28:08,875 --> 00:28:09,250
coming in from a different,

681
00:28:09,291 --> 00:28:11,250
like, you know, with O and C, you used to

682
00:28:11,250 --> 00:28:13,500
working with a lot of different

683
00:28:13,500 --> 00:28:15,083
collaborators in the past, like when you

684
00:28:15,083 --> 00:28:16,875
go out in the field and even even within

685
00:28:16,875 --> 00:28:18,500
within O and C as well.

686
00:28:19,041 --> 00:28:20,500
Now you're coming on to a ship with

687
00:28:20,500 --> 00:28:23,375
people mostly, I assume from from Spain,

688
00:28:24,250 --> 00:28:26,000
probably not speaking English as their

689
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,833
first language. Here you guys come in. I

690
00:28:28,833 --> 00:28:30,750
don't know what your what your Spanish is

691
00:28:30,750 --> 00:28:33,208
like, but can you talk about just what it

692
00:28:33,208 --> 00:28:36,375
was like to interact with brand new teams

693
00:28:36,375 --> 00:28:38,250
from a different part of the world that you may or may not have.

694
00:28:38,500 --> 00:28:40,250
That you may or may not know and being on

695
00:28:40,250 --> 00:28:43,708
a ship with them for multiple weeks. For

696
00:28:43,708 --> 00:28:46,208
sure. Yeah, it was a, you know, there's

697
00:28:46,208 --> 00:28:48,375
there's a there's like a shocking aspect

698
00:28:48,375 --> 00:28:50,583
for sure to being in an environment

699
00:28:50,583 --> 00:28:54,250
that's not like really not English, but

700
00:28:54,250 --> 00:28:56,375
the crew and everyone there like Juan

701
00:28:56,375 --> 00:29:00,291
Jose is so inviting and so focused on

702
00:29:00,291 --> 00:29:02,250
achieving the goal of

703
00:29:02,250 --> 00:29:03,250
whatever we're trying to do.

704
00:29:03,291 --> 00:29:06,000
So everyone really brings us in. They

705
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,875
helped us a lot translating when

706
00:29:07,875 --> 00:29:10,541
necessary. And, you know, sometimes we'd

707
00:29:10,541 --> 00:29:12,250
miss a thing here or there. But whenever

708
00:29:12,250 --> 00:29:13,916
there's important information, someone

709
00:29:13,916 --> 00:29:15,083
who would pull us aside and

710
00:29:15,083 --> 00:29:17,250
give us the give us the info.

711
00:29:17,291 --> 00:29:20,125
And then once you're on the base, it's

712
00:29:20,125 --> 00:29:23,375
amazing that the saying of of what you

713
00:29:23,375 --> 00:29:25,750
need, not what's your name is so so true.

714
00:29:26,125 --> 00:29:30,708
And every single person there is they're

715
00:29:30,708 --> 00:29:34,625
all inspired together to work for this

716
00:29:34,625 --> 00:29:38,291
like world science goal. So everyone's

717
00:29:38,291 --> 00:29:39,708
everyone's really pushing hard together.

718
00:29:39,708 --> 00:29:41,666
And it's it's amazing to be part of.

719
00:29:41,666 --> 00:29:42,750
That's that's awesome.

720
00:29:43,166 --> 00:29:44,041
Ruchi, how about yourself?

721
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,875
I think I can share similar experience

722
00:29:47,875 --> 00:29:52,125
with Brad. I kind of I kind of like know

723
00:29:52,125 --> 00:29:53,916
a little bit of Spanish here and there

724
00:29:53,916 --> 00:29:55,958
because I grew up in the Philippines and

725
00:29:55,958 --> 00:29:58,416
I spoke a few dialects

726
00:29:58,416 --> 00:29:59,250
there that helped like Spanish.

727
00:29:59,291 --> 00:30:03,208
But our Spanish inspired dialect. So I

728
00:30:03,208 --> 00:30:06,125
can understand phrases and words there.

729
00:30:06,500 --> 00:30:10,541
So that came in handy. And yeah, and then

730
00:30:10,541 --> 00:30:13,333
I think it's going to what Brad said.

731
00:30:13,333 --> 00:30:15,958
It's just so amazing to be in this kind

732
00:30:15,958 --> 00:30:16,791
of environment where

733
00:30:16,791 --> 00:30:19,250
everyone is willing to help that.

734
00:30:19,291 --> 00:30:23,500
Like even if they're explaining very in

735
00:30:23,500 --> 00:30:27,708
depth technical thing that you know, my

736
00:30:27,708 --> 00:30:29,750
my my understanding Spanish can like

737
00:30:29,750 --> 00:30:32,791
follow the clip very quickly. Someone is

738
00:30:32,791 --> 00:30:34,666
always there willing to help even if you

739
00:30:34,666 --> 00:30:36,416
don't ask them, you know, they get a

740
00:30:36,416 --> 00:30:38,666
sense of, you know, me needing help to

741
00:30:38,666 --> 00:30:40,250
understand this like very detailed stuff.

742
00:30:40,291 --> 00:30:43,583
So they come in and like, hey, can how

743
00:30:43,583 --> 00:30:47,458
can I help extend this? And it just comes

744
00:30:47,458 --> 00:30:49,833
naturally. And that's kind of the I think

745
00:30:49,833 --> 00:30:52,041
the miracle there is like, yeah, all of

746
00:30:52,041 --> 00:30:54,083
this happens. And you don't even have to

747
00:30:54,083 --> 00:30:55,250
speak a word. It just

748
00:30:55,250 --> 00:30:56,625
like happens naturally.

749
00:30:56,875 --> 00:30:58,791
And it's so beautiful to be experiencing

750
00:30:58,791 --> 00:31:01,416
something like this in my life.

751
00:31:04,458 --> 00:31:05,625
Well, that's good. I mean, that's awesome

752
00:31:05,625 --> 00:31:07,833
to be able to see that now. Let's talk

753
00:31:07,833 --> 00:31:11,291
about the trip itself for you guys. You

754
00:31:11,291 --> 00:31:13,083
know, as one who mentioned earlier,

755
00:31:13,916 --> 00:31:15,333
there's a pass where it's

756
00:31:15,333 --> 00:31:16,583
there's never good weather.

757
00:31:17,541 --> 00:31:18,875
How did you guys have been on boats

758
00:31:18,875 --> 00:31:21,750
before sailing down towards the Antarctic

759
00:31:21,750 --> 00:31:24,041
has got to be quite a different

760
00:31:24,041 --> 00:31:26,041
experience, Brad. Can you just talk about

761
00:31:26,041 --> 00:31:28,416
what like how long the trip was and what

762
00:31:28,416 --> 00:31:30,000
it was like to go through the past?

763
00:31:31,125 --> 00:31:35,125
Yeah, we for for both directions on the

764
00:31:35,125 --> 00:31:37,250
way there, our ship was delayed a little

765
00:31:37,250 --> 00:31:38,791
bit. So we ended up having a few more

766
00:31:38,791 --> 00:31:42,000
days aboard, which was a we were in

767
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,958
shelter. So it wasn't too crazy, but it

768
00:31:43,958 --> 00:31:46,083
extended the journey. And then actually

769
00:31:46,083 --> 00:31:50,250
against what is normal.

770
00:31:50,291 --> 00:31:53,125
Our Drake Passage heading there was kind

771
00:31:53,125 --> 00:31:55,500
of crazily calm. It might have been a

772
00:31:55,500 --> 00:31:58,916
promise journey. So that was really cool

773
00:31:58,916 --> 00:32:01,833
to see. I was looking forward to some big

774
00:32:01,833 --> 00:32:03,583
waves and feeling nervous.

775
00:32:04,125 --> 00:32:06,625
You know, maybe maybe on the next next

776
00:32:06,625 --> 00:32:08,250
adventure through, we'll get to see those

777
00:32:08,250 --> 00:32:09,875
20 meter seas one hose.

778
00:32:12,291 --> 00:32:13,958
Careful what you asked for it because

779
00:32:13,958 --> 00:32:18,291
that came out comfortable. There's a lot

780
00:32:18,291 --> 00:32:21,125
of horror stories of, you know, 45

781
00:32:21,125 --> 00:32:23,791
degrees on the boat and it sounds quite

782
00:32:23,791 --> 00:32:25,416
extreme. That's awesome.

783
00:32:26,291 --> 00:32:29,541
How long was the trip to get from Chile

784
00:32:29,541 --> 00:32:32,208
to to your like where the station was?

785
00:32:33,333 --> 00:32:35,416
I think it's about like three nights,

786
00:32:35,416 --> 00:32:38,208
three more or less, I think that was

787
00:32:38,208 --> 00:32:42,333
going there and coming back. And yeah,

788
00:32:42,333 --> 00:32:45,750
coming back, though, I'd like four or

789
00:32:45,750 --> 00:32:47,875
five meter wave and that's enough to get

790
00:32:47,875 --> 00:32:49,541
me. So I was like,

791
00:32:50,833 --> 00:32:54,500
just in my bed and yeah.

792
00:33:21,666 --> 00:33:22,250
It could happen to the best of us. I know I've had it a couple of times.

793
00:33:22,291 --> 00:33:24,750
But you don't see it any time on board

794
00:33:24,750 --> 00:33:26,500
the ship because they are lying in the

795
00:33:26,500 --> 00:33:29,375
bed most of the time seasick and waiting.

796
00:33:29,708 --> 00:33:31,833
I want to reach the

797
00:33:31,833 --> 00:33:35,708
station before I die here.

798
00:33:35,708 --> 00:33:36,500
Yeah, it's only three

799
00:33:36,500 --> 00:33:38,250
days, guys. Three days.

800
00:33:39,291 --> 00:33:42,291
Interesting to share the story here that

801
00:33:42,291 --> 00:33:45,166
the seasickness medicines are like hang

802
00:33:45,166 --> 00:33:48,416
on the doors like candy. So you can make

803
00:33:48,416 --> 00:33:50,333
any time you go there, grab your

804
00:33:50,333 --> 00:33:53,000
seasickness medicine if you if you want.

805
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:57,208
But yeah, it's kind of a way we saw it.

806
00:33:57,291 --> 00:33:59,708
Yeah, I feel it's kind of a kind of a

807
00:33:59,708 --> 00:34:01,333
candy being hung on the door

808
00:34:01,333 --> 00:34:02,250
in a candy shop or something.

809
00:34:03,291 --> 00:34:07,333
I love it. I love it. That's awesome. So

810
00:34:07,333 --> 00:34:08,875
when you get what were your first

811
00:34:08,875 --> 00:34:10,958
impression when you actually get to the

812
00:34:10,958 --> 00:34:14,083
station, you know, what did you for Brad?

813
00:34:14,083 --> 00:34:15,125
What did you think of when

814
00:34:15,125 --> 00:34:16,000
you first got to that station?

815
00:34:17,291 --> 00:34:19,166
I think I think that kind of bring me

816
00:34:19,166 --> 00:34:21,708
back to the one who talking about the six

817
00:34:21,708 --> 00:34:24,833
months preparation. So like we spend all

818
00:34:24,833 --> 00:34:26,458
this time designing the observatory,

819
00:34:26,458 --> 00:34:28,500
thinking about the plan, think about how

820
00:34:28,500 --> 00:34:29,250
we're going to do it.

821
00:34:29,291 --> 00:34:32,291
And then we ship it off six months before

822
00:34:32,291 --> 00:34:34,833
we go. So those six months, all we can do

823
00:34:34,833 --> 00:34:37,375
is think about it and like really focus

824
00:34:37,375 --> 00:34:38,750
and think about what we're going to do.

825
00:34:38,750 --> 00:34:40,791
So when we're on the boat, that's our

826
00:34:40,791 --> 00:34:42,000
last week before we're

827
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,250
about to get to our big show.

828
00:34:43,291 --> 00:34:45,708
And so for me, and I think for Ruchi as

829
00:34:45,708 --> 00:34:48,000
well, all we're doing is thinking about

830
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,000
what we're going to do, think about the

831
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:51,250
mission, think about everything that can

832
00:34:51,250 --> 00:34:52,875
go wrong and what we're going to do to

833
00:34:52,875 --> 00:34:53,541
solve those problems.

834
00:34:53,541 --> 00:34:56,166
And so then when you arrive at the base,

835
00:34:56,833 --> 00:34:59,958
it's finally like, here's the boxes,

836
00:34:59,958 --> 00:35:02,041
here's all your equipment, it's now time

837
00:35:02,041 --> 00:35:04,416
to work. So for me, it's actually kind of

838
00:35:04,416 --> 00:35:06,791
relieving to be at the base because now

839
00:35:06,791 --> 00:35:08,250
it's not time to think anymore.

840
00:35:08,291 --> 00:35:10,958
It's time to do and it's time to solve

841
00:35:10,958 --> 00:35:12,708
those problems and get the observatory in

842
00:35:12,708 --> 00:35:14,166
the water. So for me, being

843
00:35:14,166 --> 00:35:16,458
at the base was very exciting.

844
00:35:17,416 --> 00:35:19,916
Very nice. Very nice. And for you, Ruchi.

845
00:35:21,291 --> 00:35:23,000
Yeah, for me, it's kind of the warm

846
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,541
welcome from the base. So when we

847
00:35:26,541 --> 00:35:30,125
arrived, so the ship was kind of anchored

848
00:35:30,125 --> 00:35:33,208
probably like, I don't know, 1500 meters

849
00:35:33,208 --> 00:35:35,416
from the shore. So we have to go by

850
00:35:35,416 --> 00:35:38,875
Zodiac and then as to me, like as a

851
00:35:38,875 --> 00:35:42,250
Zodiac was like approaching the shore.

852
00:35:42,291 --> 00:35:44,250
If you see these people waving at you,

853
00:35:44,250 --> 00:35:46,666
like welcoming at the base and I see I

854
00:35:46,666 --> 00:35:49,541
see Joanne, I see Joelle helping with

855
00:35:49,541 --> 00:35:52,541
with the Zodiac, putting it into the

856
00:35:52,541 --> 00:35:54,250
shore and welcoming us

857
00:35:54,250 --> 00:35:55,541
is it's kind of a warm up.

858
00:35:55,541 --> 00:35:57,208
And you know, when you get there, that

859
00:35:57,208 --> 00:35:59,458
things will be done, you know, with this

860
00:35:59,458 --> 00:36:01,000
kind of attitudes, with this kind of

861
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,958
characters, people out there, things will

862
00:36:02,958 --> 00:36:06,208
be done. And that's giving me like a

863
00:36:06,208 --> 00:36:08,250
positive kind of outlook of this trip.

864
00:36:09,291 --> 00:36:13,208
It's this I arrived to add to what Ruchi

865
00:36:13,208 --> 00:36:14,875
saying. It was like, like me and Ruchi

866
00:36:14,875 --> 00:36:16,541
are going there for the first time. So

867
00:36:16,541 --> 00:36:18,166
we're the new people and we get to see

868
00:36:18,166 --> 00:36:20,958
all of these people who have gone on

869
00:36:20,958 --> 00:36:22,166
multiple campaigns and

870
00:36:22,166 --> 00:36:23,375
like they're meeting up.

871
00:36:23,375 --> 00:36:25,041
It's a big reunion. Everyone's so happy

872
00:36:25,041 --> 00:36:26,625
to see each other and they know they're

873
00:36:26,625 --> 00:36:28,250
going to be working together and working

874
00:36:28,250 --> 00:36:30,166
on their whatever objectives they have

875
00:36:30,166 --> 00:36:32,000
planned for the months ahead. It was it's

876
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,750
a really special place for sure.

877
00:36:35,833 --> 00:36:37,833
Well, now our station is a modern

878
00:36:37,833 --> 00:36:42,583
station, but still that you see each

879
00:36:42,583 --> 00:36:45,541
other every day, every morning for the

880
00:36:45,541 --> 00:36:48,416
breakfast for lunch for dinner. Yeah. And

881
00:36:48,416 --> 00:36:51,000
you sleep very close to each other. So I

882
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,250
mean, you need to have a relationship.

883
00:36:53,291 --> 00:36:57,458
You kill everything. And this is very,

884
00:36:57,458 --> 00:37:00,458
very important. And before was even more

885
00:37:00,458 --> 00:37:03,000
important because we're in a container of

886
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,000
20 feet. We put, I don't know, the people

887
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,125
there now is a little

888
00:37:07,125 --> 00:37:07,250
bit more comfortable.

889
00:37:08,291 --> 00:37:11,958
And this is good. But in any case, the

890
00:37:11,958 --> 00:37:16,041
relation is fundamentally because, you

891
00:37:16,041 --> 00:37:18,250
know, when you have a job at the end of

892
00:37:18,250 --> 00:37:21,541
the job, you go home and you cut. You

893
00:37:21,541 --> 00:37:22,833
never got to during

894
00:37:22,833 --> 00:37:23,916
the time you're there.

895
00:37:25,291 --> 00:37:27,166
Yeah, there's no downtime. Like in terms

896
00:37:27,166 --> 00:37:30,208
of home to your families or going home.

897
00:37:30,208 --> 00:37:31,416
Yeah. Like doing what

898
00:37:31,416 --> 00:37:32,250
you normally do. Yeah.

899
00:37:33,291 --> 00:37:35,458
The paradox is the people who stay there

900
00:37:35,458 --> 00:37:38,625
longer like John who just I mean, the

901
00:37:38,625 --> 00:37:42,416
station was closed on Thursday and

902
00:37:42,416 --> 00:37:45,666
Friday, joining the rest of the people. I

903
00:37:45,666 --> 00:37:47,333
mean, John is the head of the station.

904
00:37:47,333 --> 00:37:50,250
They were sailing to to South America.

905
00:37:51,291 --> 00:37:53,750
And he always tell me, you say, wow, at

906
00:37:53,750 --> 00:37:57,000
the end of some almost three months, I

907
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,333
miss Antarctica because everything is

908
00:37:59,333 --> 00:38:02,291
easy. I know what to do every day. I have

909
00:38:02,291 --> 00:38:04,625
a breakfast every day. I don't need any

910
00:38:04,625 --> 00:38:07,625
coin to do anything. And the landscape is

911
00:38:07,625 --> 00:38:08,541
beautiful. When I come

912
00:38:08,541 --> 00:38:10,166
back, it's traffic. Nice.

913
00:38:10,458 --> 00:38:11,750
Money is a mess.

914
00:38:12,958 --> 00:38:16,916
They say everybody. Yeah, for sure.

915
00:38:20,291 --> 00:38:22,500
You get used to that calmness and just

916
00:38:22,500 --> 00:38:24,916
quiet, you know, being in such a remote

917
00:38:24,916 --> 00:38:27,916
area that it's just it's just when you

918
00:38:27,916 --> 00:38:29,750
come back, there's we don't realize how

919
00:38:29,750 --> 00:38:31,708
much noise is in our lives like in our

920
00:38:31,708 --> 00:38:32,875
regular day to day lives.

921
00:38:32,875 --> 00:38:35,166
In any case, unreal. Now is a remote

922
00:38:35,166 --> 00:38:38,208
area, but not so remote because we have

923
00:38:38,208 --> 00:38:40,166
Internet. We have connection. But before

924
00:38:40,166 --> 00:38:42,875
I remember when I was younger and when I

925
00:38:42,875 --> 00:38:44,250
went there, when I was on board a ship.

926
00:38:45,291 --> 00:38:47,000
For example, on board a ship, I have a

927
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,291
communication with my wife once every

928
00:38:49,291 --> 00:38:51,625
three weeks and everybody wants to be

929
00:38:51,625 --> 00:38:54,291
behind me. And you know why? Because you

930
00:38:54,291 --> 00:38:56,416
say, well, who you are the faster always

931
00:38:56,416 --> 00:38:58,750
say, you know, I need to talk half an

932
00:38:58,750 --> 00:39:00,708
hour to my wife. If I have three minutes

933
00:39:00,708 --> 00:39:03,000
in one second, I can solve everything.

934
00:39:04,291 --> 00:39:07,250
And this is what I want to be in the list

935
00:39:07,250 --> 00:39:08,333
behind you because then

936
00:39:08,333 --> 00:39:09,250
I got some extra time.

937
00:39:10,291 --> 00:39:12,791
Yeah, that's hilarious. It's so funny.

938
00:39:12,791 --> 00:39:15,250
Let's talk about the work when when you

939
00:39:15,250 --> 00:39:17,625
guys got there, you know, you had you

940
00:39:17,625 --> 00:39:19,666
were putting in two stations, some

941
00:39:19,666 --> 00:39:20,666
different instruments.

942
00:39:22,250 --> 00:39:25,541
Bradley, how long did that take to do

943
00:39:25,541 --> 00:39:27,666
when you were down there? And it was was

944
00:39:27,666 --> 00:39:29,250
it in the anticipated time that you thought it would take?

945
00:39:30,291 --> 00:39:33,625
Depends on what you're asking about. But

946
00:39:33,625 --> 00:39:36,666
a few of the different kind of work days

947
00:39:36,666 --> 00:39:39,250
we had went according to plan, the

948
00:39:39,250 --> 00:39:41,625
largest one or our first large

949
00:39:41,625 --> 00:39:44,291
deployment. So we're deploying the actual

950
00:39:44,291 --> 00:39:46,125
observatory into the water and putting

951
00:39:46,125 --> 00:39:47,375
all the split pipe on and

952
00:39:47,375 --> 00:39:48,250
making sure the cable is protected.

953
00:39:49,291 --> 00:39:52,666
That one I told Joanne, it would take us

954
00:39:52,666 --> 00:39:56,958
something like eight hours maybe and it

955
00:39:56,958 --> 00:39:59,958
ended up taking us more like 14. So that

956
00:39:59,958 --> 00:40:01,375
was a little bit longer than anticipated

957
00:40:01,375 --> 00:40:03,583
for sure. But that that's kind of a

958
00:40:03,583 --> 00:40:04,958
compliment as well to the

959
00:40:04,958 --> 00:40:06,250
group that we're working with.

960
00:40:06,291 --> 00:40:07,791
So it's not only me and Ruchi out there,

961
00:40:07,791 --> 00:40:10,291
there was maybe five or six of us from

962
00:40:10,291 --> 00:40:15,083
the base. And it's a 14 hour long day of

963
00:40:15,083 --> 00:40:18,416
hard physical work in the cold outside

964
00:40:18,416 --> 00:40:22,958
and no, not a single, not a single bad

965
00:40:22,958 --> 00:40:25,833
attitude or anything, even for a second,

966
00:40:25,833 --> 00:40:27,250
everyone is super happy to work.

967
00:40:27,291 --> 00:40:29,291
I mean, you're working in an amazing

968
00:40:29,291 --> 00:40:31,375
location. So, you know, it's not so bad.

969
00:40:31,375 --> 00:40:34,416
Right? For 14 hours. It's a grind. And

970
00:40:34,416 --> 00:40:36,791
everyone is super willing to do it. And

971
00:40:36,791 --> 00:40:38,708
then when we ask who wants to come for

972
00:40:38,708 --> 00:40:40,500
the second deployment, every single

973
00:40:40,500 --> 00:40:41,833
person comes again and is

974
00:40:41,833 --> 00:40:43,250
happy to do the exact same. Yeah,

975
00:40:43,291 --> 00:40:45,250
yeah, see the exact same. Yeah, long

976
00:40:45,250 --> 00:40:48,583
days, tiring days, I'm sure. And it can

977
00:40:48,583 --> 00:40:51,375
get what's the weather like Ruchi? Like,

978
00:40:51,375 --> 00:40:53,541
is it always nice? Is there some weather

979
00:40:53,541 --> 00:40:55,166
that comes in from nowhere where it's all

980
00:40:55,166 --> 00:40:57,458
of a sudden that's a blizzard or what

981
00:40:57,458 --> 00:40:59,458
have you? Like, what was it like to work

982
00:40:59,458 --> 00:41:00,750
in that type of condition?

983
00:41:01,666 --> 00:41:04,166
It changes so fast, like the weather is

984
00:41:04,166 --> 00:41:07,375
so fast that we have like a local weather

985
00:41:07,375 --> 00:41:12,291
forecaster at the base. And we tried to

986
00:41:12,291 --> 00:41:16,625
catch the good weather window for our

987
00:41:16,625 --> 00:41:21,250
stuff, our equipment. But once we're on

988
00:41:21,250 --> 00:41:23,375
site, I think we're pretty much okay,

989
00:41:23,375 --> 00:41:24,916
even if the weather doesn't cooperate.

990
00:41:25,291 --> 00:41:27,208
But it's very critical that you only

991
00:41:27,208 --> 00:41:31,083
transport the equipment when the weather

992
00:41:31,083 --> 00:41:34,333
window is good. Right? Yeah, yeah, I can

993
00:41:34,333 --> 00:41:37,250
imagine. And in terms of weather, the key

994
00:41:37,250 --> 00:41:39,583
point there is the winds. I mean, you can

995
00:41:39,583 --> 00:41:42,375
be you can have beautiful sunny day

996
00:41:42,375 --> 00:41:44,416
working in shorts and all of a sudden in

997
00:41:44,416 --> 00:41:47,000
something like five minutes, there is a

998
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,041
wind called Katabatic wind, which is

999
00:41:49,041 --> 00:41:51,500
coming through the mountains. Very cold.

1000
00:41:51,958 --> 00:41:53,458
And you think that I'm

1001
00:41:53,458 --> 00:41:54,250
going to die in the next.

1002
00:41:54,291 --> 00:42:00,208
It's a drop of I don't know, at least in

1003
00:42:00,208 --> 00:42:03,500
the feeling is 10 degrees less than the

1004
00:42:03,500 --> 00:42:08,708
work in really very fast. So this is one

1005
00:42:08,708 --> 00:42:10,333
of the reasons that you should when you

1006
00:42:10,333 --> 00:42:11,875
are working, you should take care about

1007
00:42:11,875 --> 00:42:12,500
this kind of thing

1008
00:42:12,500 --> 00:42:14,250
because it happened often. Yeah.

1009
00:42:14,291 --> 00:42:17,875
And in that kind of situation, do the

1010
00:42:17,875 --> 00:42:19,625
people go back into the base until that

1011
00:42:19,625 --> 00:42:21,958
that wind is gone? Or are there certain

1012
00:42:21,958 --> 00:42:23,125
conditions where you're just like, we

1013
00:42:23,125 --> 00:42:24,416
can't work in this, let's just go back

1014
00:42:24,416 --> 00:42:26,916
in. Very good point depend on the

1015
00:42:26,916 --> 00:42:29,166
situation and depend on the location in

1016
00:42:29,166 --> 00:42:30,583
any case, the first thing to do is to

1017
00:42:30,583 --> 00:42:33,125
have a communication with the base and to

1018
00:42:33,125 --> 00:42:35,208
understand where are you because they

1019
00:42:35,208 --> 00:42:36,125
need to prepare

1020
00:42:36,125 --> 00:42:38,250
eventually something to rescue you.

1021
00:42:39,291 --> 00:42:42,583
Doesn't happen often because people are

1022
00:42:42,583 --> 00:42:44,583
well trained it and they have a good

1023
00:42:44,583 --> 00:42:46,375
feeling. I mean, one thing is that you

1024
00:42:46,375 --> 00:42:48,250
have a little bit of a win. Another thing

1025
00:42:48,250 --> 00:42:51,333
is the prediction in terms of whether we

1026
00:42:51,333 --> 00:42:53,833
know it in advance. So when we have a bad

1027
00:42:53,833 --> 00:42:56,708
prediction, we restrict the the movement

1028
00:42:56,708 --> 00:42:57,250
around the station a lot.

1029
00:42:58,291 --> 00:43:00,000
Gotcha.

1030
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,791
To avoid risk because if we have a

1031
00:43:03,791 --> 00:43:07,541
problem with a person, if a quite is not

1032
00:43:07,541 --> 00:43:09,791
an easy task. I mean, this takes weeks

1033
00:43:09,791 --> 00:43:13,375
and this perturb everybody, of course,

1034
00:43:13,750 --> 00:43:17,291
the first one. So this is critical. The

1035
00:43:17,291 --> 00:43:20,000
collective, the community is important

1036
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,375
because if something is someone fails,

1037
00:43:23,791 --> 00:43:24,666
this affects everybody.

1038
00:43:25,500 --> 00:43:27,250
Right. Right. Yeah, I know it's true.

1039
00:43:27,291 --> 00:43:28,333
Everybody knows this.

1040
00:43:28,833 --> 00:43:29,750
So this is important.

1041
00:43:30,083 --> 00:43:33,666
It's very important. Absolutely. Now, for

1042
00:43:33,666 --> 00:43:36,500
Ruchi and Brad, one of you can take this

1043
00:43:36,500 --> 00:43:38,708
when you're working in these types of

1044
00:43:38,708 --> 00:43:40,125
conditions where things can change

1045
00:43:40,125 --> 00:43:42,416
quickly. Obviously, now everything's

1046
00:43:42,416 --> 00:43:44,083
never going to work out perfectly. Was

1047
00:43:44,083 --> 00:43:47,416
there a time where you had to adapt, you

1048
00:43:47,416 --> 00:43:48,625
know, where you're just

1049
00:43:48,625 --> 00:43:49,250
like, oh, wait, hold on a second.

1050
00:43:49,291 --> 00:43:51,833
This isn't going to work or, you know, we

1051
00:43:51,833 --> 00:43:53,333
need to adapt to this. Like, can you just

1052
00:43:53,333 --> 00:43:54,916
talk a little bit about that? Whoever

1053
00:43:54,916 --> 00:43:57,833
wants to start if that happened? Yeah,

1054
00:43:58,208 --> 00:44:00,166
yeah. I've got a good one. We.

1055
00:44:02,166 --> 00:44:05,000
For for the the split point deployments,

1056
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,416
like the big subsidy deployment, the

1057
00:44:07,416 --> 00:44:09,208
weather has to be perfect. And like one

1058
00:44:09,208 --> 00:44:11,291
who said it's it's windy there all the

1059
00:44:11,291 --> 00:44:15,166
time, very frequently. So we had to wait

1060
00:44:15,166 --> 00:44:17,333
for the good weather window

1061
00:44:17,333 --> 00:44:18,250
day for our actual deployment.

1062
00:44:18,291 --> 00:44:20,458
The first one we found one pretty pretty

1063
00:44:20,458 --> 00:44:22,458
reasonably well. But then the second one,

1064
00:44:22,458 --> 00:44:24,375
we ended up really getting close to the

1065
00:44:24,375 --> 00:44:28,041
end of time. And so Juwan helped maneuver

1066
00:44:28,041 --> 00:44:30,541
some activities so that we would be able

1067
00:44:30,541 --> 00:44:33,166
to have our window on the it might have

1068
00:44:33,166 --> 00:44:35,625
been the last day we were there. So yeah,

1069
00:44:35,625 --> 00:44:37,291
it was down to the wire for sure. And it

1070
00:44:37,291 --> 00:44:39,791
ended up working great. And yeah, Ruchi,

1071
00:44:39,791 --> 00:44:42,208
how about yourself? Yeah, for me, it's so

1072
00:44:42,208 --> 00:44:45,291
we have to install the

1073
00:44:45,291 --> 00:44:48,250
equipment at two different sides.

1074
00:44:48,291 --> 00:44:51,541
One is in this in this cold, not called

1075
00:44:51,541 --> 00:44:53,375
the stop where we have our instrument,

1076
00:44:53,375 --> 00:44:56,500
our sensors. And the other one is like

1077
00:44:56,500 --> 00:44:58,958
the R.A. receiver on Mount Sophia. So I'm

1078
00:44:58,958 --> 00:45:01,125
going to share our experience like going

1079
00:45:01,125 --> 00:45:03,000
to my office. I have this like 30

1080
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:04,166
kilogram backpack and had

1081
00:45:04,166 --> 00:45:05,958
to like walk up the mountain.

1082
00:45:07,291 --> 00:45:09,916
So a very steep walk through like rocks

1083
00:45:09,916 --> 00:45:12,166
and glaciers and rocks and glaciers

1084
00:45:12,166 --> 00:45:16,250
again. And yeah, it's because I was I was

1085
00:45:16,250 --> 00:45:21,125
so tired during that like uphill plan. I

1086
00:45:21,125 --> 00:45:23,416
had this stuff so many times. But then

1087
00:45:23,416 --> 00:45:24,916
when we get there, I think we kind of

1088
00:45:24,916 --> 00:45:27,666
missed that that weather window that it

1089
00:45:27,666 --> 00:45:31,000
start like, like the wind, it's it's I

1090
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:32,250
can barely stand with the wind.

1091
00:45:32,291 --> 00:45:35,000
It's so it's so strong that I had to like

1092
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,750
somehow crawl just to get the equipment

1093
00:45:38,750 --> 00:45:42,750
out of my pack and onto this tower. And

1094
00:45:42,750 --> 00:45:46,500
then there was also like a thick fog

1095
00:45:46,500 --> 00:45:48,833
coming. So it's kind of hard to see where

1096
00:45:48,833 --> 00:45:51,958
we're connecting things. But I think

1097
00:45:51,958 --> 00:45:53,250
those are one of the things that we had

1098
00:45:53,250 --> 00:45:56,500
to like adjust as we go because as this

1099
00:45:56,500 --> 00:46:00,041
like weather window is closing up, we had

1100
00:46:00,041 --> 00:46:01,250
to compromise a little bit a select

1101
00:46:01,291 --> 00:46:03,708
the height of the antenna we want to

1102
00:46:03,708 --> 00:46:05,416
install because the visibility is so

1103
00:46:05,416 --> 00:46:07,333
poor, we kind of installed it at the

1104
00:46:07,333 --> 00:46:10,291
ideal location. We installed it in the

1105
00:46:10,291 --> 00:46:12,291
original plan. Yeah, we had to like

1106
00:46:12,291 --> 00:46:14,166
compromise a little bit in that. So we

1107
00:46:14,166 --> 00:46:17,958
had to do, I'd say a good amount of like

1108
00:46:17,958 --> 00:46:21,625
fine tune adjustment because of the

1109
00:46:21,625 --> 00:46:23,250
environment conditions.

1110
00:46:23,625 --> 00:46:26,958
That's so cool. That is, I mean, it's an

1111
00:46:26,958 --> 00:46:29,958
interesting dynamic to work in, you know,

1112
00:46:29,958 --> 00:46:32,333
because you're you're in like sometimes

1113
00:46:32,333 --> 00:46:34,208
what we consider like extreme weather

1114
00:46:34,208 --> 00:46:36,333
shifts like back and forth. It looks like

1115
00:46:36,333 --> 00:46:37,833
you got a combination of weather to with

1116
00:46:37,833 --> 00:46:39,666
the fog and the wind and and everything.

1117
00:46:39,666 --> 00:46:40,916
So that always makes things things

1118
00:46:40,916 --> 00:46:41,958
interesting. And then you got the

1119
00:46:41,958 --> 00:46:43,583
physical aspect of hiking up a mountain

1120
00:46:43,583 --> 00:46:45,958
to put it on this on the station. It

1121
00:46:45,958 --> 00:46:46,250
doesn't make it easy.

1122
00:46:46,291 --> 00:46:50,041
When you like, I think it's kind of funny

1123
00:46:50,041 --> 00:46:51,583
to see like you do a lot of field work

1124
00:46:51,583 --> 00:46:53,875
and you you're you are physically

1125
00:46:53,875 --> 00:46:56,000
involved in doing the field work, whether

1126
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,541
it's on a boat or on land and you're

1127
00:46:58,541 --> 00:47:00,125
you're usually carrying stuff and it can

1128
00:47:00,125 --> 00:47:02,500
be awkward and you have to have like a

1129
00:47:02,500 --> 00:47:05,625
certain amount of strength. So so Richie,

1130
00:47:05,916 --> 00:47:08,458
how do you think you fared with carrying

1131
00:47:08,458 --> 00:47:10,000
that out? Like, do you think like coming

1132
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:11,208
back, you're like, okay, hold on a

1133
00:47:11,208 --> 00:47:13,333
second. Maybe next time before I go, I

1134
00:47:13,333 --> 00:47:15,250
should do some workouts beforehand to get me to get me to get me to do some work.

1135
00:47:21,541 --> 00:47:23,083
I think it's just like, I don't know,

1136
00:47:23,083 --> 00:47:25,375
like doing doing a lot of runs.

1137
00:47:25,375 --> 00:47:31,083
But no, run can can help me prepare for

1138
00:47:31,083 --> 00:47:31,250
that uphill climb. It's just so just so extreme.

1139
00:47:31,250 --> 00:47:47,000
Yeah. But yeah, I have to do some sort of, I

1140
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:48,333
don't know, like a little bit of physical

1141
00:47:48,333 --> 00:47:49,750
conditioning, I guess, so I don't get

1142
00:47:49,750 --> 00:47:50,250
injured or right at least can survive. Yeah.

1143
00:47:51,291 --> 00:47:58,416
I'll be honest, like it's it's when you

1144
00:47:58,416 --> 00:47:59,791
hear Antarctica, it's not something you

1145
00:47:59,791 --> 00:48:01,750
think about is like these mountains and

1146
00:48:01,750 --> 00:48:03,625
hiking like how difficult it would be to

1147
00:48:03,625 --> 00:48:04,500
hike, you know, like

1148
00:48:04,500 --> 00:48:06,250
you guys both live in B.C.

1149
00:48:06,291 --> 00:48:09,041
Hiking is a common thing, you know, and

1150
00:48:09,041 --> 00:48:10,666
usually we think hikes are like an easier

1151
00:48:10,666 --> 00:48:12,000
thing to do, probably B.C. There's

1152
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,458
probably more maybe extreme examples of

1153
00:48:15,458 --> 00:48:17,375
hiking where you can go on to like

1154
00:48:17,375 --> 00:48:19,958
hiking, like in more rougher terrains.

1155
00:48:19,958 --> 00:48:21,375
But you never really think about that

1156
00:48:21,375 --> 00:48:22,916
from an Antarctica perspective. You just

1157
00:48:22,916 --> 00:48:23,583
think, oh, it's just

1158
00:48:23,583 --> 00:48:24,625
probably mostly flat.

1159
00:48:24,625 --> 00:48:26,583
You never think of all the dips and lows

1160
00:48:26,583 --> 00:48:28,750
in the mountains and ranges and stuff

1161
00:48:28,750 --> 00:48:29,958
like that. So I think it's kind of cool

1162
00:48:29,958 --> 00:48:32,833
to get that experience and to feel that.

1163
00:48:33,291 --> 00:48:36,250
Now, after like the last day kind of

1164
00:48:36,250 --> 00:48:40,000
coming down to the last minute, would you

1165
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:41,291
consider everything was a success in

1166
00:48:41,291 --> 00:48:43,833
terms of deployment and then testing and

1167
00:48:43,833 --> 00:48:45,083
making sure data is coming through?

1168
00:48:46,791 --> 00:48:49,083
Right. Yeah, huge, huge success for sure.

1169
00:48:49,416 --> 00:48:52,208
We got we brought two observatories with

1170
00:48:52,208 --> 00:48:54,250
the, you know, goal of doing both. But

1171
00:48:54,250 --> 00:48:55,666
having one work would have been a good

1172
00:48:55,666 --> 00:48:57,250
success. But both are working well.

1173
00:48:58,291 --> 00:49:00,833
Ruchi's data system is working excellent.

1174
00:49:00,833 --> 00:49:02,958
We've got we're still getting data. And I

1175
00:49:02,958 --> 00:49:04,791
think we're reasonably optimistic that

1176
00:49:04,791 --> 00:49:07,583
both systems will last for their

1177
00:49:07,583 --> 00:49:09,375
deployment life. Hopefully the year. And

1178
00:49:09,375 --> 00:49:11,083
then, yeah, maybe even more.

1179
00:49:11,500 --> 00:49:13,833
That's all. That's amazing. That's always

1180
00:49:13,833 --> 00:49:15,291
that's always great when you when you

1181
00:49:15,291 --> 00:49:16,666
know all the work you've done in prep

1182
00:49:16,666 --> 00:49:19,875
time and going into a remote area and it

1183
00:49:19,875 --> 00:49:20,666
and it works and then

1184
00:49:20,666 --> 00:49:21,250
you're getting data.

1185
00:49:21,291 --> 00:49:23,708
That's always that's always wonderful.

1186
00:49:24,291 --> 00:49:26,500
Now, obviously, this has been an amazing

1187
00:49:26,500 --> 00:49:28,666
experience. And one whole you've you've

1188
00:49:28,666 --> 00:49:30,750
been on these trips a number of times.

1189
00:49:30,750 --> 00:49:33,416
You've you visited Antarctica. Like what

1190
00:49:33,416 --> 00:49:35,291
is the one thing about Antarctica that

1191
00:49:35,291 --> 00:49:37,958
you love the most? You know, visiting and

1192
00:49:37,958 --> 00:49:39,000
then telling people about.

1193
00:49:40,416 --> 00:49:43,666
Well, it's a privilege to be there for us

1194
00:49:43,666 --> 00:49:45,666
because not everybody can go there.

1195
00:49:45,958 --> 00:49:46,833
Right. Because there are some

1196
00:49:46,833 --> 00:49:48,916
restrictions. I mean, due to the

1197
00:49:48,916 --> 00:49:52,000
Antarctic Treaty on the other hand, he

1198
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,833
said peaceful area. So it's a lot of

1199
00:49:54,833 --> 00:49:57,583
collaboration. They they don't care where

1200
00:49:57,583 --> 00:50:00,000
you are from. The bottom thing is what

1201
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,166
you need and how we can help each other

1202
00:50:02,166 --> 00:50:05,291
to in terms of logistic and in terms of

1203
00:50:05,291 --> 00:50:06,250
science in in all terms.

1204
00:50:07,291 --> 00:50:10,708
And this is from the scientific point of

1205
00:50:10,708 --> 00:50:13,291
view is a paradise because you are there

1206
00:50:13,291 --> 00:50:16,375
doing sign for the signs. And when you

1207
00:50:16,375 --> 00:50:19,666
ask any technical question or scientific

1208
00:50:19,666 --> 00:50:22,000
question, there is always happy to help

1209
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,416
you to guide you. So which is important.

1210
00:50:25,416 --> 00:50:27,250
This is really a key issue.

1211
00:50:27,291 --> 00:50:31,666
Indeed, this strong collaboration between

1212
00:50:31,666 --> 00:50:33,916
Ocea, medical Canada and the National

1213
00:50:33,916 --> 00:50:37,166
Research Council in Spain produce already

1214
00:50:37,166 --> 00:50:40,416
that many other countries around our

1215
00:50:40,416 --> 00:50:44,208
station, which have plenty of of

1216
00:50:44,208 --> 00:50:47,666
countries in the King George Island, for

1217
00:50:47,666 --> 00:50:48,500
instance, I think there is

1218
00:50:48,500 --> 00:50:49,250
something like 20 station.

1219
00:50:49,291 --> 00:50:52,041
They are listening to what we're doing

1220
00:50:52,041 --> 00:50:54,875
together and they ask already, maybe it's

1221
00:50:54,875 --> 00:50:57,750
a good idea to do the same thing in

1222
00:50:57,750 --> 00:51:00,000
different stations. They will be ideal in

1223
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:03,500
terms of monitoring in different places,

1224
00:51:04,125 --> 00:51:06,875
the same parameters. So, boys, maybe you

1225
00:51:06,875 --> 00:51:09,125
need to go back sooner or later.

1226
00:51:36,125 --> 00:51:36,791
And now you have the

1227
00:51:36,791 --> 00:51:38,791
experience. This is different thing.

1228
00:51:39,291 --> 00:51:42,333
But we've seen that for a long time for

1229
00:51:42,333 --> 00:51:44,583
the whole year and monitor, how is the

1230
00:51:44,583 --> 00:51:46,708
variability of different parameters? For

1231
00:51:46,708 --> 00:51:48,166
instance, one of the things which is

1232
00:51:48,166 --> 00:51:52,208
important is we have indication that the

1233
00:51:52,208 --> 00:51:56,958
carbon absorption in the is becoming, is

1234
00:51:56,958 --> 00:51:58,583
reducing because the

1235
00:51:58,583 --> 00:52:01,958
ocean is absorbing the CO2.

1236
00:52:09,291 --> 00:52:11,875
the morassitan is the end of life.

1237
00:52:13,041 --> 00:52:15,666
And this is why to know how the things

1238
00:52:15,666 --> 00:52:17,166
are millimetrically

1239
00:52:17,166 --> 00:52:19,291
changing, and in particular

1240
00:52:19,416 --> 00:52:23,875
in these places, is very useful for the

1241
00:52:23,875 --> 00:52:25,833
science community, but

1242
00:52:25,833 --> 00:52:27,583
for everybody else, because

1243
00:52:28,750 --> 00:52:30,958
indication of what happened in Antarctica

1244
00:52:30,958 --> 00:52:32,916
may affect the rest of

1245
00:52:32,916 --> 00:52:34,458
the world quite fast.

1246
00:52:38,125 --> 00:52:39,666
And one of the interesting things is now

1247
00:52:39,666 --> 00:52:40,375
awesome, and I work

1248
00:52:40,375 --> 00:52:42,166
Canada is able to do it

1249
00:52:42,166 --> 00:52:45,125
at the same time in both poles, in the

1250
00:52:45,125 --> 00:52:47,291
Arctic and in Antarctica.

1251
00:52:48,125 --> 00:52:50,541
And I think there is no way anybody else

1252
00:52:50,541 --> 00:52:53,500
is able to do this simultaneously.

1253
00:52:54,416 --> 00:52:56,625
It was my dream to have a say, we should

1254
00:52:56,625 --> 00:52:58,583
be able to have two

1255
00:52:58,583 --> 00:53:01,375
stations in two areas or

1256
00:53:01,375 --> 00:53:03,750
polar areas recording the

1257
00:53:03,750 --> 00:53:05,625
same parameters at the same time.

1258
00:53:05,625 --> 00:53:06,541
Yeah, we can look at comparing.

1259
00:53:06,541 --> 00:53:09,416
In one place is summer and another place

1260
00:53:09,416 --> 00:53:10,750
is winter, but it doesn't matter.

1261
00:53:11,166 --> 00:53:11,875
Yeah, it doesn't matter.

1262
00:53:12,083 --> 00:53:13,500
It's still the same data.

1263
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:14,208
Yeah.

1264
00:53:15,250 --> 00:53:15,916
Richie, what about yourself?

1265
00:53:16,125 --> 00:53:17,625
Like, what do you remember most about

1266
00:53:17,625 --> 00:53:18,583
Antarctica and what's like

1267
00:53:18,583 --> 00:53:20,250
your favourite aspect of it?

1268
00:53:20,458 --> 00:53:21,833
I'm just going to back up a little bit

1269
00:53:21,833 --> 00:53:23,708
about the success of this.

1270
00:53:23,750 --> 00:53:24,208
Yes, please.

1271
00:53:25,416 --> 00:53:29,125
So I see the success of this deployment

1272
00:53:29,125 --> 00:53:32,333
and partnership as a precursor for future

1273
00:53:32,333 --> 00:53:32,750
endeavors like this.

1274
00:53:32,958 --> 00:53:38,166
I mean, now we are enabling near real

1275
00:53:38,166 --> 00:53:40,875
time monitoring in some of the most

1276
00:53:40,875 --> 00:53:43,458
remote areas of the planet, special

1277
00:53:43,458 --> 00:53:45,125
Antarctica, because it's one of the most

1278
00:53:45,125 --> 00:53:47,166
under observed places in our planet.

1279
00:53:47,666 --> 00:53:50,416
And at the same time, it's kind of a very

1280
00:53:50,416 --> 00:53:54,166
important part of our planet that plays

1281
00:53:54,166 --> 00:53:55,541
an important role in

1282
00:53:55,541 --> 00:53:57,250
the global climate system.

1283
00:53:57,291 --> 00:53:59,875
So being able to monitor the part of the

1284
00:53:59,875 --> 00:54:01,333
planet that's been undergoing rapid

1285
00:54:01,333 --> 00:54:04,500
changes, consequential changes over the

1286
00:54:04,500 --> 00:54:07,166
past few years is very time critical.

1287
00:54:07,708 --> 00:54:10,541
And we don't have time to wait two or

1288
00:54:10,541 --> 00:54:14,541
three years to recover the data.

1289
00:54:15,041 --> 00:54:17,083
We have to be more timely.

1290
00:54:17,083 --> 00:54:19,333
And this type of partnership is what

1291
00:54:19,333 --> 00:54:21,375
enables that kind of pushing the

1292
00:54:21,375 --> 00:54:22,666
frontiers technology,

1293
00:54:23,500 --> 00:54:24,625
something like this.

1294
00:54:25,291 --> 00:54:28,041
And as to my experience, I think it's

1295
00:54:28,041 --> 00:54:31,208
yeah, looking at the partnership, I think

1296
00:54:31,208 --> 00:54:35,000
it really works very well from from the

1297
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:36,416
partnership perspective

1298
00:54:36,416 --> 00:54:38,000
from the executive level.

1299
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,125
And at the same time, for us, the people

1300
00:54:41,125 --> 00:54:42,625
deploying the instrument in the field,

1301
00:54:42,625 --> 00:54:45,291
being able to work with partners like the

1302
00:54:45,291 --> 00:54:49,250
UTM, CSIC is really a great privilege.

1303
00:54:49,291 --> 00:54:52,458
And knowing that both of our

1304
00:54:52,458 --> 00:54:56,125
organizations are are laser focused to

1305
00:54:56,125 --> 00:54:59,416
like, you know, doing something for a

1306
00:54:59,416 --> 00:55:02,333
planet, starting from from

1307
00:55:02,333 --> 00:55:05,583
the other notion expedition.

1308
00:55:06,125 --> 00:55:08,166
I think this is going to be a bigger

1309
00:55:08,166 --> 00:55:11,083
thing in the future. Yeah, I

1310
00:55:11,083 --> 00:55:11,250
think it's I think you're right.

1311
00:55:11,291 --> 00:55:14,416
I think it's it's huge to be able to have

1312
00:55:14,416 --> 00:55:16,416
these types of partnerships to get access

1313
00:55:16,416 --> 00:55:18,708
into different areas now potentially with

1314
00:55:18,708 --> 00:55:20,916
the, you know, the ability to spread over

1315
00:55:20,916 --> 00:55:23,583
a large continent like Antarctica to be

1316
00:55:23,583 --> 00:55:27,166
able to have the same stations, subsea

1317
00:55:27,166 --> 00:55:29,500
stations in those areas to to be able to

1318
00:55:29,500 --> 00:55:30,916
give a better picture, better

1319
00:55:30,916 --> 00:55:33,500
representation of the entire continent, I

1320
00:55:33,500 --> 00:55:35,708
think is is going to be amazing and to

1321
00:55:35,708 --> 00:55:37,416
have collaboration where it's like we

1322
00:55:37,416 --> 00:55:39,333
have somebody who has the connections

1323
00:55:39,333 --> 00:55:40,250
within Antarctica and the experience.

1324
00:55:40,291 --> 00:55:44,666
And plus, we have, you know, ONC that

1325
00:55:44,666 --> 00:55:46,750
that is coming in being like we look we

1326
00:55:46,750 --> 00:55:49,291
we know subsea systems and we know how to

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00:55:49,291 --> 00:55:50,750
monitor and we've done in the Arctic,

1328
00:55:50,750 --> 00:55:52,250
we've done it in the Pacific, we've done

1329
00:55:52,250 --> 00:55:52,833
it, we've done it

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00:55:52,833 --> 00:55:54,458
everywhere and we can do it anywhere.

1331
00:55:54,708 --> 00:55:56,625
So I think that's a great a great

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00:55:56,625 --> 00:55:58,916
partnership to see. And I really

1333
00:55:58,916 --> 00:56:00,875
appreciate all three of you coming on to

1334
00:56:00,875 --> 00:56:02,583
kind of give us that

1335
00:56:02,583 --> 00:56:04,666
perspective of doing it.

1336
00:56:04,666 --> 00:56:06,083
And it's I'm sorry, I forgot one thing,

1337
00:56:06,083 --> 00:56:06,833
Brad, what was your

1338
00:56:06,833 --> 00:56:08,250
favorite thing about Antarctica?

1339
00:56:09,291 --> 00:56:14,500
My favorite thing about Antarctica, I

1340
00:56:14,500 --> 00:56:17,500
would put the inspiration given to me by

1341
00:56:17,500 --> 00:56:20,125
the crew that I met while there. It was

1342
00:56:20,125 --> 00:56:23,541
it was, yeah, it's incredible. It's it's

1343
00:56:23,541 --> 00:56:26,750
it's impossible to say how motivating it

1344
00:56:26,750 --> 00:56:27,708
is to be around a

1345
00:56:27,708 --> 00:56:29,166
group of people like that.

1346
00:56:29,166 --> 00:56:30,666
And just to see them constantly in and

1347
00:56:30,666 --> 00:56:33,375
out going all the time. It's amazing. And

1348
00:56:33,375 --> 00:56:36,666
also, yeah, so it's a good place to learn

1349
00:56:36,666 --> 00:56:37,958
from each other as well. Right.

1350
00:56:38,291 --> 00:56:41,083
And I always learning. And let me add

1351
00:56:41,083 --> 00:56:43,875
something because I like what Ruchi said

1352
00:56:43,875 --> 00:56:46,750
is we are precursors and this is correct.

1353
00:56:47,750 --> 00:56:50,833
And this is important for many different

1354
00:56:50,833 --> 00:56:51,958
things in the first place.

1355
00:56:52,708 --> 00:56:55,166
Being precursors is being the first one

1356
00:56:55,166 --> 00:56:57,958
to do something which is high

1357
00:56:57,958 --> 00:56:59,833
responsibility at the same time because

1358
00:56:59,833 --> 00:57:03,500
this is what the first two years we were

1359
00:57:03,500 --> 00:57:05,375
always a little bit nervous to say we

1360
00:57:05,375 --> 00:57:07,083
need to manage this time.

1361
00:57:08,791 --> 00:57:12,333
On the other hand, when we you open a new

1362
00:57:12,333 --> 00:57:14,458
way of doing things, the others are

1363
00:57:14,458 --> 00:57:16,333
listening to you and say, this is

1364
00:57:16,333 --> 00:57:17,833
interesting and we can

1365
00:57:17,833 --> 00:57:18,791
do something together.

1366
00:57:19,708 --> 00:57:21,708
And this is what I like very much. Being

1367
00:57:21,708 --> 00:57:25,083
precursors is interesting, challenging

1368
00:57:25,083 --> 00:57:27,958
and responsibility is increasing.

1369
00:57:28,708 --> 00:57:32,166
And we manage, by the way, I was checking

1370
00:57:32,166 --> 00:57:34,083
heaven over before starting. I was

1371
00:57:34,083 --> 00:57:36,375
checking all the monitors we are

1372
00:57:36,375 --> 00:57:38,125
recording. Apparently,

1373
00:57:38,500 --> 00:57:39,791
everything is still fine.

1374
00:57:40,291 --> 00:57:48,166
I'd love for any of those countries who

1375
00:57:48,166 --> 00:57:50,666
are interested in similar systems, you

1376
00:57:50,666 --> 00:57:53,000
should send them on over to us and we'll

1377
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,041
see if we can come back and help them

1378
00:57:55,041 --> 00:57:57,458
out. Of course. Well, as you know, I will

1379
00:57:57,458 --> 00:58:01,125
go to Victoria in June in a few months.

1380
00:58:01,291 --> 00:58:03,958
And in the meantime, probably I will go

1381
00:58:03,958 --> 00:58:06,041
to Chile and Chile is one of the

1382
00:58:06,041 --> 00:58:08,583
countries who has a lot of station and

1383
00:58:08,583 --> 00:58:12,000
the airport in the King George Island and

1384
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:15,625
Argentina, Bulgaria, many others. They

1385
00:58:15,625 --> 00:58:19,625
are listening to or watching what we are

1386
00:58:19,625 --> 00:58:22,250
doing and to see the progress. And this

1387
00:58:22,250 --> 00:58:24,208
is really, I think is the

1388
00:58:24,208 --> 00:58:25,875
beginning of a big thing.

1389
00:58:26,375 --> 00:58:30,458
And by the way, Bradley and Ruchi, they

1390
00:58:30,458 --> 00:58:32,250
are very well known already in the

1391
00:58:32,250 --> 00:58:34,708
Spanish and the other station and they

1392
00:58:34,708 --> 00:58:38,708
are the kings of the road. I think you

1393
00:58:38,708 --> 00:58:41,916
are in the golden list of engineers and

1394
00:58:41,916 --> 00:58:46,750
you are always welcome in the station

1395
00:58:46,750 --> 00:58:51,041
anywhere where Spanish people are working

1396
00:58:51,041 --> 00:58:52,250
in science or marine science, of course.

1397
00:58:52,291 --> 00:58:57,333
Well, that is what we love to hear. Just

1398
00:58:57,333 --> 00:58:58,625
in terms of just the collaboration

1399
00:58:58,625 --> 00:59:02,458
itself, I'm sure people at ONC are loving

1400
00:59:02,458 --> 00:59:04,375
to hear that as well, including the two

1401
00:59:04,375 --> 00:59:06,500
of you. And it just goes to show how

1402
00:59:06,500 --> 00:59:08,875
great it is to work with other people and

1403
00:59:08,875 --> 00:59:11,791
whether you are on a boat or in the

1404
00:59:11,791 --> 00:59:13,708
Antarctic in a remote area for like 3-4

1405
00:59:13,708 --> 00:59:17,083
weeks, it's great to be able to have that

1406
00:59:17,083 --> 00:59:20,458
kind of feedback after you work with

1407
00:59:20,458 --> 00:59:21,250
somebody for that long in those types of countries.

1408
00:59:21,291 --> 00:59:25,833
And I think it's great to be able to have

1409
00:59:25,833 --> 00:59:28,583
that here and see the camaraderie between

1410
00:59:28,583 --> 00:59:30,458
all of you and how well you work together

1411
00:59:30,458 --> 00:59:32,250
and it's just great to be able to talk about it.

1412
00:59:32,291 --> 00:59:35,500
Thank you all three of you for joining us

1413
00:59:35,500 --> 00:59:37,208
today on the how to protect the ocean

1414
00:59:37,208 --> 00:59:38,458
pockets because it was just so much fun

1415
00:59:38,458 --> 00:59:40,958
to be able to listen to the stories and

1416
00:59:40,958 --> 00:59:42,333
what you guys have been able to

1417
00:59:42,333 --> 00:59:44,375
accomplish and hopefully, you know, talk

1418
00:59:44,375 --> 00:59:45,541
about what you're going to be able to

1419
00:59:45,541 --> 00:59:46,875
accomplish in the future and have you

1420
00:59:46,875 --> 00:59:49,166
guys back on when you're able to deploy

1421
00:59:49,166 --> 00:59:50,958
however many systems you're going to

1422
00:59:50,958 --> 00:59:52,875
deploy in the next couple of years.

1423
00:59:53,250 --> 00:59:54,791
But it's been great to have you guys on

1424
00:59:54,791 --> 00:59:55,750
really appreciate it. Thank

1425
00:59:55,750 --> 00:59:57,250
you so much. Thank you. Okay.

1426
00:59:57,291 --> 01:00:00,666
I think I will ask you and Brad and Ruchi

1427
01:00:00,666 --> 01:00:03,000
see you in June, I hope.

1428
01:00:03,250 --> 01:00:03,666
Oh yeah.

1429
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:04,583
See you in June.

1430
01:00:05,666 --> 01:00:05,708
Perfect.

1431
01:00:06,166 --> 01:00:06,750
It was a pleasure.

1432
01:00:07,291 --> 01:00:09,958
Thank you, Juan Ho, Ruchi and Bradley for

1433
01:00:09,958 --> 01:00:11,791
joining us on today's episode of the How

1434
01:00:11,791 --> 01:00:12,708
to Protect the Ocean podcast.

1435
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:14,750
Look, Antarctica may be remote, but

1436
01:00:14,750 --> 01:00:16,458
today's conversation makes one thing

1437
01:00:16,458 --> 01:00:19,083
clear. It is deeply connected to all of

1438
01:00:19,083 --> 01:00:21,083
us. The data being collected there is

1439
01:00:21,083 --> 01:00:23,000
more than just numbers on the screen.

1440
01:00:23,291 --> 01:00:25,666
It is a window into how our ocean is

1441
01:00:25,666 --> 01:00:27,625
changing, how climate systems are

1442
01:00:27,625 --> 01:00:29,250
shifting and how science and

1443
01:00:29,250 --> 01:00:30,666
collaboration can help us

1444
01:00:30,666 --> 01:00:32,666
respond faster and smarter.

1445
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:34,125
I want to thank everybody for sharing

1446
01:00:34,125 --> 01:00:35,458
their experience today from this

1447
01:00:35,458 --> 01:00:37,333
groundbreaking mission and a big thank

1448
01:00:37,333 --> 01:00:39,166
you to Ocean Numbers Canada for making

1449
01:00:39,166 --> 01:00:41,416
this servicing secrets explore the ocean

1450
01:00:41,416 --> 01:00:43,041
know the planet series possible.

1451
01:00:43,291 --> 01:00:45,875
And I just wanted to say if you enjoyed

1452
01:00:45,875 --> 01:00:47,916
this episode of the how to protect the

1453
01:00:47,916 --> 01:00:49,666
ocean podcast, I want you to follow it on

1454
01:00:49,666 --> 01:00:51,458
your favorite podcast app so you never

1455
01:00:51,458 --> 01:00:53,916
miss a story about the people the science

1456
01:00:53,916 --> 01:00:55,458
and solutions shaping

1457
01:00:55,458 --> 01:00:56,875
the future of our ocean.

1458
01:00:56,875 --> 01:00:58,208
I want to thank you again for joining us

1459
01:00:58,208 --> 01:01:00,041
on today's episode of the how to protect

1460
01:01:00,041 --> 01:01:01,958
the ocean podcast. I'm your host, Andrew

1461
01:01:01,958 --> 01:01:03,125
Lew and have a great day. We'll talk to

1462
01:01:03,125 --> 01:01:04,666
you next time and happy conservation.