Aug. 3, 2026

Unleashing a Wandering Black Hole and Chasing the Solar Eclipse

Unleashing a Wandering Black Hole and Chasing the Solar Eclipse
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Season 29
SpaceTime Series 29 Episode 92 The monster that’s been let out of its cage Astronomers have for the first time discovered a monstrous supermassive black hole wandering unseen near the edge of a galaxy. Counting down to next week’s solar eclipse Spain, Portugal, Iceland, Greenland Russia and the arctic are about to experience a total solar eclipse as the Moon’s shadow sweeps across the surface of the Earth. The Swift Space Telescope rescue mission suffers a major setback NASA’s Link mission to save the Swift Space Telescope has suffered a few problems with a sudden loss of attitude control putting the spacecraft into an uncontrollable spin. The Science Report Former Biden administration chief health advisor Anthony Fauci pleads the fifth on everything. Antimicrobial resistance in children on the rise globally. The footprints of an ancient civilisation discovered in the Amazon. Discovery of fossils of a giant mosasaur eating an ichthyosaur that ate a pterosaur. Skeptics guide to the 2026 Bent Spoon Awards. This Week’s Guests NASA WB-57 pilot Tom Parent NASA WB-57 Sensor Equipment Operator Cary Klemm Nation Wide Eclipse Ballooning Project Principal Investigator Dr Angela Des Jardins from Montana State University. Juno Principal Investigator Scott Bolton Southwest Research Institute in San Antonio Texas Juno Launch Director Omar Baez NASA Juno Mission Manager John Calvert NASA Our regular guests: Alex Zaharov-Reutt from techadvice.life Tim Mendham from Australian Skeptics And Senior science writer and Sky and Telescope magazine contributor Jonathan Nally 🌏 Get Our Exclusive NordVPN deal here ➼ www.bitesz.com/nordvpn . The discounts and bonuses are incredible! And it’s risk-free with Nord’s 30-day money-back guarantee! ✌

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This is Spacetime Series twenty nine, Episode ninety two, for

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broadcast on the third of August twenty twenty six. Coming

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up on Spacetime, The Monster That's been let out of

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its cage, counting down to next week's solar eclipse, and

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a major setback for NASA Swift Space Telescope Rescue mission.

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All that and more coming up on space Time.

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Welcome to space Time with Stuart Gary.

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Astronomers have for the first time discovered a monster as

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super massive black hole wandering alone near the edge of

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a galaxy. These giants of the universe, which can be

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millions to billions of times the mass of our Sun,

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are usually found at the centers of galaxies, are reporting.

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The Astrophysical journal Letters claims the newly identified behemoth was

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only discovered as a released a flash of light while

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destroying and consuming a nearby star in a tidal disruption event.

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It's the first time scientists have detected a super massive

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black hole so far away from a galaxy center. The

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studies lead author, Robert david Stein from the Joint Space

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Science Institute, says the new discovery will have huge implications.

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Until now, the assumption was that super massive black holes

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always reside at the centers of their galaxies. The new

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discovery means astronomers will be able to better understand how

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galaxies and their black holes merge and how they build

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up over time. Theorists have predicted that wandering black holes

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would exist roaming along the outskirts of galaxies as a

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result of galaxy collisions and mergers. But the thing is,

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many of these black holes would be quiescent, meaning they're

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not swallowing material and consequently not emitting any light, literally

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tiptoeing around the universe undetected. This newly discovered black hole

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was detected by this Vicki transient facility, which searches the

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skies looking for transient objects. Vicki scans the entire northern

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sky every two days using a pair of telescopes at

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the Palomar Observatory in San Diego. Mind you, it's virtually

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impossible to check for black holes in each of the

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hundreds of thousands of celestial events at Ziki documents every evening.

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So astronomers developed an artificial intelligence program which identifies a

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characteristic light signature that occurs when the black hole shreds

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a star. These title disruption events are well documented at

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galaxy centers, but the AI looked for similar flares elsewhere

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in the sky. The authors launched the artificial intelligence program

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back in August twenty twenty five, and made their first

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black hole discovery using it just three months later. In

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this case, the super massive black hole was located some

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thirty thousand light years from the galactic center. It's around

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four million solar masses, about the same as set us

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a star. The super massive black hole at the center

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of our own galaxy, the Milky Way. It likely ended

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up at its current location following a collision between two galaxies.

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One possibility is that a larger galaxy cannibalized a smaller

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one and then slowly stripped away all its stars until

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only the core remained. But a more intriguing second possibility

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is that one galaxy already had two black holes orbiting

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close to the center in a binary system, having already

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merged with another galaxy. Then if a third black hole

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from yet another galaxy merger enters the mixed complex, three

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body interactions could kick the smallest one out. Continued observations

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of this title disruption event but eventually favor one of

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these two hypotheses. Characterizing how quiesce and black holes behave

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is important because most black holes, including the one at

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the center of the Milky Way, are dormant for most

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of the time. In other words, you only know they're

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there when they start feeding. The authors in asking the

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Skies for more wandering black holes so they can determine

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just how common they really are. This is space time

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still to come, counting down to next week's solar eclipse

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and a major setback for NASA Swift Space Telescope Rescue mission.

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All that and more still to come on space Time. Spain, Portugal, Greenland, Iceland, Russia,

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and the Arctic are about to experience a total solar

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eclipse as the Moon's shadow sweeps across the surface of

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the Earth. Other parts of Europe, from the British Isles

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and France across to Greece, Italy and Lithuania, as well

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as northern Africa, will experience a partial eclipse during the event.

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Depending on where you are, the celestial spectacular will begin

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around three point thirty four in the afternoon of August

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the twurth, with totality occurring at five four and the

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show ending just before eight o'clock in the evening Solar

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eclipses happen when the Moon passes directly between the Earth

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and the Sun. You see, the Moon's orbit around the

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Earth is inclined by five degrees compared to the Earth's

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orbit around the Sun, so normally the Moon appears to

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cross the sky slightly above or below the path of

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the Sun. But about every eighteen months or so, the

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lunar orbit places the Moon directly between the Sun and Earth,

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resulting in a solar eclipse. Eclipses happen because the Moon

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is four hundred times smaller than the Sun, but it's

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also four hundred times closer to the Earth, and so

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the two appear to be about the same size in

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the sky as seen from Earth, and when the Sun, Moon,

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and Earth line up exactly, the Earth experiences a total

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solar eclipse. As this occurs, the Moon begins to slowly

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pass in front of the Sun and the partial lunar

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shadow or penumber, crosses the surface of the Earth. This

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can last for more than an hour as more and

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more of the Sun is hidden by the face of

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the Moon. Then, just before totality occurs, the crescent Sun

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converges into a single, bright white diamond of sunlight as

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the last bit of the Sun's bright disk shines along

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the edge of the Moon, and the first glimpses of

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the fake corona create a ring around the Moon, an

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effect known as the diamond ring. In the last fleeting

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moments before totality, the diamond ring breaks up into a

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string of beads created by the Sun's rays shining through

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the low lying valleys between the mountains along the limb

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or edge of the Moon. Once this effect, known as

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Bailey's beads, comes to an end, the Moon has completely

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covered the entire disk of the Sun and ear in totality.

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During totality, the largest part of the Moon's shadow, the umbra,

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crosses the Earth's surface. People along the path of totality

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view a total eclipse, which can last up to seven

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minutes and thirty one seconds, but is usually far shorter.

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During this period, the sky goes down, stars will appear,

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and it will suddenly get noticeably cooler. Birds will start roosting,

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shadows will take on an unusual crescent shape, and you'll

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be able to see the Sun's tenuous outer atmosphere, The corona,

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glowing milky white. Often explosions on the Sun's surface, called prominences,

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will appear as spectacular bright pink or red clouds stretching

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above the lunar limb. The path of totality can be

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up to two hundred and seventy two kilometers wide, although

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it's usually a lot less, and the further away you

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are from the center of the path, the shorter the

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eclipse duration will be. Now, if you're outside the line

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of totality, either to the north or south of it,

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you'll only see a partial eclipse, in which only part

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of the Sun's disk will be covered by the Moon.

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The reason each eclipse is only visible over a small

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part of the Earth is because the Moon's shadow is

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relatively small when it falls on the Earth's surface. Now,

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another important factor is that, on average, the Moon orbits

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about three hundred and eighty four thy four hundred kilometers

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away from the Earth. But the Moon's orbit around the

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Earth is in a perfect circle, it's slightly elliptical. That

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means one part of the orbit may be a bit

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closer to the Earth, maybe three hundred and fifty seven

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thousand kilometers that's known as perigy. Well, another part of

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the orbit will be a bit further away, around four

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hundred and six thousand kilometers, known as apergy, and when

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the Moon's orbit takes it a bit further away, the

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Moon looks a bit smaller in the sky, and if

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that coincides with the solar eclipse, it doesn't cover the

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entire face of the Sun, so instead of a solar eclipse,

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the Moon's passage across the Sun creates an annulus, a

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ring of fire, as light from the Sun surrounds the

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dark Moon, resulting in an annular eclipse. Solar eclipses are

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accompanied by a lunar eclipse, occurring either two weeks before

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or after the main event. That's due to the same

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alignment which caused the solar eclipse, so lunar and solar

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eclipses occur with equal frequency, but lunar eclipses are seen

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over a far broader area because the Earth's shadow is

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far larger and therefore covers more of the lunar surface.

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A lunar eclipseccurs during full moon, when the Sun, Earth,

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and Moon a line. During this event, the Moon passes

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completely through the Earth's dark shadow or umbra. Even though

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the Earth completely blocks out sunlight from directly reaching the

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surface of the Moon.

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The Moon is still visible.

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During a total lunar eclipse, you'll see the Moon gradually

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get darker than take on a rusty or blood red

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color as the light from the Sun refracts through Earth's

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atmosphere and undergoes rarely scattering, leaving only the longer red

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wavelengths as all the Earth's sunsets and sunrises happen at

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once to indirectly reflect on the lunar surface. A total

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lunar eclipse and also look yellow, orange, or even browning

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color depending on how different types of dust, particles, and

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clouds in Earth's atmosphere allow different wavelengths of light to

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reach the lunar surface. During next week's event, science teams

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will be chasing the Moon's shadow with one of NASA's

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high altitude WB fifty seven research jets and with scientific balloons.

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They'll investigate the Sun's dynamics the temporary darkening of our

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skies affects the atmosphere. A squeed of four cameras mounted

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in the nosecone will take high resolution images of the

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Sun's corona in different wavelengths of visible and infrared light.

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The cameras will capture at least twenty images per second.

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Recording structures, outflows, and rapid changes in the corona during

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the total eclipse. These images will allow scientists to learn

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more about the formation of prominences, better understand the corona

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and how it gets heated to nearly a million degrees,

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and the relationship between material and the corona and in

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the Solar wind, a continuous stream of charged particles flowing

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out from the Sun and bathing the Earth and rest

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of the Solar System. By chasing the Moon's shadow, the

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jet will extend how long cameras can observe the corona.

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See On the ground, the longest anyone will be able

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to see the corona is two minutes in eighteen seconds,

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but by flying along the eclipse path of totality, the

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WB fifty seven's view of the corona can last nearly

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three minutes. NASS WB fifty seven will flight fifty thousand

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feet that's above any clouds that might obscure the view

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of the Krona from the ground. The altitude will also

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allow cameras to observe some of the infrared wavelengths that

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get absorbed by the lower atmosphere before reaching the ground.

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The crone has only been observed at those wavelengths a

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few times before. The key instrument is called a multi

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spectral able in imager. It was developed by the Southwest

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Research Institooting Boulder, Colorado, and was also used during the

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April twenty twenty four solar eclipse, where it provided valuable

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observations this report from MESSATV.

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For most people, a total solar eclipse lasts just a

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few minutes, but NASA's pilots find a way to make

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it last longer by trying to outrun the Moon's shadow

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with an airplane.

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The truth is it's actually chasing us. We get out

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in front of it and let it overtake us. Once

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we're in totality, then we'll advance to artles to max

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and try and stay in totality for as long as

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we can.

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Making that happen takes extreme precision. Scientists calculate exactly where

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the airplane needs to be at each moment.

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We do a lot of missions where being in the

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right point and time and space are critical, and this

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is one of them.

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On eclipse Day, the WB fifty seven aircraft climbs more

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than fifty thousand feet into the stratosphere that's above most

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of Earth's atmosphere where clouds, dust, and water vapor could

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obscure the view.

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Viewing an eclipse from fifty thousand feet provides a really

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clear shot of the Sun, and that allows the scientists

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to have confidence of the data that they're seeing is

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on the Sun rather than distortions from the atmosphere.

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When the Moon's shadow arrives, it engulfs the aircraft.

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so it's very noticeable.

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course while the sensor operator fine tunes the cameras, capturing

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every second of data.

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of nature's most spectacular events while helping scientists better understand

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WB fifty seven Parlot, Tom Parnett, and WB fifty seven

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censor equipment operator carry CLAM. Meanwhile, a NASA funded nationwide

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eclipse ballooning project by Angelo de Jardines from Montana State

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University will be sending students from several American universities to

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Iceland and Spain to launch scientific balloons before, during, and

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after the eclipse in order to better understand how an

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eclipse affects the atmosphere. In Iceland, two teams will launch

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eighty balloons starting eighteen hours before the eclipse until eight

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hours after the event in order to study how the

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eclipse affects Earth's boundary layer. That's the part of the

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atmosphere that touches the ground.

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The thickness of the boundary layer changes depending on factors

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such as surface temperature and a humidity. Previous balloon flights

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during solar eclipses in Octo twenty twenty three and April

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twenty twenty four showed that the boundary layer either collapsed

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or decreased in thickness in locations with clear skies.

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in Iceland next week changes in the boundary layer are

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driven by the day nights cycle. However, in Iceland in August,

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the days are long and the nights are short, so

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the nighttime influences might not be as strong as in

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twenty twenty three or twenty four. Meanwhile, in Spain, three

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balloon teams launch a total of six balloons with threendre

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and sixty degree cameras in order to image the eclipse

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shatter from above. These balloons will also include instruments designed

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to measure levels of ozone in the atmosphere, which requires

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sunlight to form. Previous balloon experiments in April twenty twenty

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four showed that ozone decreases during totality, and scientists want

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to determine if there are any differences with this eclipse,

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especially as it's happening much later in the day and

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during a different season.

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Teams of students from across the United States have a

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unique vantage point of total solar eclipses thanks to scientific balloons.

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The Nationwide Eclipse Fluting Project is a NASA mission like

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adventure and collecting data from balloons that go high up

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into the atmosphere.

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Started in twenty fourteen, the project engages college students and

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high schoolers in one of two distinct paths.

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that get to tinker on different payloads, and the other

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track is an atmospheric science track where they'll actually be

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launching weather sensors to study the impact of the eclipse.

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Atmospheric science teams launch helium filled weather balloons the same

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as those used by the National Weather Service every hour

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for hours before and after an eclipse. Engineering teams fly

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larger balloons laden with cameras and experiments. They build themselves

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one hundred thousand feet up into the stratosphere. From there,

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they study a variety of things such as incoming cosmic

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radiation and ozone levels, as well as offering dramatic views

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of the Moon's shadow on our planet.

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The project is really a unique one in that it's

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both an education but also doing amazing science that's both

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about the eclipse itself and also the atmospheric response of

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the eclipse.

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Student balloon teams made a historic first during the twenty

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nineteen eclipse. They measured eclipse driven atmospheric gravity waves in

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Earth's stratosphere, or large ripples in the air caused by

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the temporary cooling due to the drop in sunlight.

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What excites me the most about this project is thinking

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about the experiences that the students have that fell remember forever.

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And in that report from Messa TV, we had from

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Nationwide Eclipse Blue and project principal investigator Angela Deja Deen

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and this is space time still to come. NASA's Swift

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Space Telescope rescue mission suffers a major setback. Later in

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the science report form of Biden Administration CHAEF Health Advisor

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Anthony found faces the US Senate and pleads the Fifth

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all that and more still to come on space time.

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NASA's Link mission to try and save the Swift Space

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telescope has suffered a major setback with a sudden loss

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of attitude control, putting the rescue craft into an uncontrollable spin.

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Link is on a mission to run the vous with

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Swift and boost the orbiting observatory back up to a

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higher altitude. Launched in two thousand and four, Swift was

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designed to survey the skies looking for short lived events

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like gamma ray bursts. Although they're the most powerful explosions

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in the universe, gamma ray bursts only last a few

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seconds before fading away. Swift acts like an early warning system,

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detecting the burst first and then quickly messaging astronomers to

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turn their telescopes towards the location of the blast. However,

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recent space weather events like solar flares and chronal mass

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ejections have blasted charged particles from the Sun towards the Earth,

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causing our planet's atmosphere to wobble like a jelly blubber,

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expanding one way, contracting another. As Swift travels through the

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expanded part of the atmosphere, a process called atmospheric drag

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slows the spacecraft down, decaying its orbit. The thing is,

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engineers weren't expecting the impact of the current space where

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the cycle it'd be as big as it is, and

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so the probe wasn't equipped with the repulsion system in

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order to boost itself back up into its intended six

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hundred kilometre high orbit. Without help, Swift will fall back

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into its atmosphere and burn up in a matter of months.

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The Link spacecraft was launched last month on a Pegasus

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rocket with the aim of catching up to and then

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locking onto Swift using its three robotic arms, and then

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firing its onboard engine to boost the telescope back up

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to its original orbit. However, mission manager say Links now

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started experiencing attitude control problems, causing the spacecraft to spin

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uncontrollably and sporadically losing communication with mission managers. Preliminary investigations

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suggest that two of Link's three reaction wheels, which control

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the spacecraft's attitude and orientation in space, have stopped working,

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and there's also some loss of functionality with its cold

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gas thruster system, but neither LINKS operator, Catalyst, or NASA

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at giving up hope, at least not yet. Mission managers

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are working on the plant to stop Link spin using

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the spacecraft's electric propulsion thrusters, and once they've re established

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a stable attitude and better understand the spacecraft's status, they'll

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then uplink a new set of guidance, navigation, and control

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commands to accommodate the spacecraft's new configuration. They'll then evaluate

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revised plans to approach and capture Swift, depending on the

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safety of the approach and Link's health. And needless to say,

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we'll keep you informed. This is space time, and time

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that to take a brief look at some of the

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other stories making news in Science this week with the

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Science Report. The former Biden administration National Institutes of Health

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Chief Advisor Anthony Fauci has faced a United States Senate

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Homeland Security Committee hearing, accused of repeatedly lying to the

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American public about the causes and origins of the deadly

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COVID nineteen pandemic. Is part of his interaction with Senator

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to Josh Harley.

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Well, nothing says honesty like taking the fifth hun dark.

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Let's try something.

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What day of the week is it today?

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On the divisive Council? I respectfully declined to answer, based

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upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution.

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What color tiere you wearing?

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On the advisive Council? I respectfully declined to answer based

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upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution?

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What color is the carpet in front of you?

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On the advisive Council? I respect declined to answer based

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upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

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Let's just get one thing straight. You don't have any

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rights under the Fifth Amendment because you've been pardoned, as

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you very well know, as a Supreme Court has been

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clear for a century and more. Brown versus Walker eighteen

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ninety six. When he has been pardoned, he may not

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stand upon his privilege. You know that your lawyer are

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sitting behind you now, shifting nervously in their chairs. They

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know it. This isn't about the constitution, This isn't about

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the law. This is about contempt, contempt for this body,

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and contempt for the American people.

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With the threat of real jail time now hanging over

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his head like the proverbial sort of Democles, Fauci pleaded

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the fifth and no less than one hundred and eleven

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occasions in order not to incriminate himself. However, statements he

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wrote in his personal diary have already done that for him.

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Fauci's diary confirms that he was funding gain of function

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research into the Corona bat virus at China's Wuhan Institute

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of Virology, and that ten scientists from his own team

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supported the lably hypothesis that is, a biologically engineered COVID

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nineteen virus escape from the Chinese lab and quickly spread globally.

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Over more than ten thousand pages, the diary, retrieved from

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government computer servers in recent months, exposes Fauci's deepest thoughts

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and darkest secrets, his obsession with the media, his infatuation

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with his own growing fame and perceived importance, and his

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schoolgirl like becited giddiness with celebrities. But more importantly, Fauci's

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diary entries confirmed that he knew, or at least suspected

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COVID nineteen didn't originate in the local wet markets despired

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him continuously and vigorously pushing that line publicly. Fauci's January

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twenty twenty diary entry states categorically in his own words,

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that we know the market was not the source. About

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a week later, he referenced the conference call in which

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several top infectious disease experts all thought the coronavirus might

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not have originated in nature. He even writes the possibility

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of a lablique as the likely source of the virus,

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but kept that opinion to himself as millions of people died.

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In fact, Fauchi's notes show that he deliberately covered up

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evidence supporting this labla hypothesis. Fauci's diary entries also confirm

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that he personally recommended lockdowns and closing schools politicians and

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their advisors during the pandemic. Something he publicly strenuously denied doing.

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These included California Governor Gavin Newsom's chief of staff, Anna Leary,

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New York City Mayor Build the Blasio, and Mark Gaily,

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the deputy director of Community Health for the La County

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Department of Health Services. Earlier testimony by doctor Richard Ebright,

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a professor of Biologier Rutgers, says Fauchi will have to

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answer way his own advisors told him was a lab origin,

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and yet he publicly went against that. Why Fauchi pleaded

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the fifth of the hearing makes no sense, as he's

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already been given an autopen pardon by President Joe Biden

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for his actions during the pandemic, raising questions about what

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he's been up to since that time. Unusually, that pardon

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goes all the way back to twenty fourteen. That's the

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same year he began funding gain of function research into

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the SARS via In China, The World Health Organization says

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over seven point one million people have now been killed

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by the COVID nineteen coronavirus since it was first detected

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among workers at China's Wihan Institute of Virology back in

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September twenty nineteen, The Lancet Medical Journal estimates the true

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global death toll is likely to be more than eighteen

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million and with over three quarters of a billion confirmed

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cases globally. A new studi is warning that antimicrobial resistance

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in children is rising globally. The findings, reported in the

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Journal of the American Medical Association, suggests the level of

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superbug resistance will worsen over the next decade, threatening the

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effectiveness of life saving antibiotics. The findings, led by the

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Murdoch Children's Research Institute in collaboration with the University of Sydney,

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analyze more than one hundred and six thousand infection samples

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from kids up to the age of eighteen across eighty

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two countries, discovering that resistance has increased in every region

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between two thousand and four and twenty twenty two. New

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aerial imaging surveys of the southwestern Amazon have revealed four

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hundred and thirty two earthwork patterns in the ground, which

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scientists say may represent the footprint of an ancient civilization.

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The findings, reported in the journal Nature, show earthworks were

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found in an area previously inhabited by the ancient ariculture.

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The authors extrapolated their findings with existing satellite evidence to

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suggests that this region may have as many as thirty

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thousand earthworks that could have supported between one and a

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quarter and three million people between the years one hundred

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and three hundred. They say this small area appears to

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have more earthworks than previously predicted for the entire Amazon Basin.

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Paleontologist in our Back Queensland of on Earth the spectacular

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new fossil discovery displaying a Cretaceous era marine food web

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involving a giant mercisore, a large hexiosaur, and a flying

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reptile known as a pterosaur. This amazing one hundred million

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year old snapshot depicts life and death at its most

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brutal during the age of the dinosaur. The finds, reported

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in the journal gond Wonder Research, use neutron scattering to

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image what is a complicated find showing the remains of

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a dolphin like marine reptile called an ixiosaur, which contained

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the preserved remains of its last meal fish, cephalopods, and

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fragments of the lower jaw of a pterosaur, and the

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ixiosaur itself appears to have been attacked and preyed upon

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by an even larger reptile amosasaur, an enormous marine apex predator,

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00:26:24.759 --> 00:26:28.440
possibly the giant philos or Chronosaurus Queenslandicus, which could reach

462
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lengths of ten meters thirty three feet. The ixiosaur vertebrae

463
00:26:32.680 --> 00:26:36.160
were split, ribs were missing, and numerous sperons displayed large

464
00:26:36.240 --> 00:26:40.039
crushing bite marks. One vertebrae even preserved a rib jammed

465
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against a broken margin strolling in, suggesting forceful jaw processing

466
00:26:44.079 --> 00:26:48.000
rather than simply post mortem damage. A fossils were uncovered

467
00:26:48.000 --> 00:26:52.480
at the Aremanga Sea dig site near Richmond. So called

468
00:26:52.519 --> 00:26:56.319
paranormal psychic Dolly Anderson has won the Australian Skeptics twenty

469
00:26:56.400 --> 00:26:59.759
twenty six Ben Spoon Award as the most shocky practitioner

470
00:26:59.759 --> 00:27:02.359
of the Adamson claims to be able to talk to

471
00:27:02.359 --> 00:27:05.559
the ghosts of murdered children and their killers. She beat

472
00:27:05.559 --> 00:27:08.599
a colorful clutch of equally illustrious runners up, including the

473
00:27:08.599 --> 00:27:11.799
Perth Vivacious Living Center, which charged people to diagnose and

474
00:27:11.839 --> 00:27:15.240
treat their illnesses using an unregistered dodgy body scanning device

475
00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:17.640
from Russia, which apparently could scan a bunch of non

476
00:27:17.680 --> 00:27:21.440
existent frequencies. There was also Monica and Lisa Smith, who

477
00:27:21.440 --> 00:27:24.559
was selling orgone energy devices that claimed to protect you

478
00:27:24.640 --> 00:27:28.720
and your home from electromagnetic frequency radiation. Then there were

479
00:27:28.799 --> 00:27:31.000
David the Medium and Chezi Danya, who claimed to be

480
00:27:31.000 --> 00:27:33.799
able to talk to the dead. Past winners for displaying

481
00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:37.720
their own lack of scientific understanding include the Australian Broadcasting

482
00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:41.400
Corporation for demonstrating new lows in journalistic standards with their

483
00:27:41.400 --> 00:27:43.880
ever faithful motto never let the facts get in the

484
00:27:43.880 --> 00:27:46.519
way of a good story. There was the University of

485
00:27:46.559 --> 00:27:49.160
Woollongong for proving you don't need to be smart, or

486
00:27:49.240 --> 00:27:52.359
right or even scientifically accurate in order to get a doctorate,

487
00:27:52.880 --> 00:27:56.640
Adelaide Psychic and Dankbar for her discovery the Colossus of Rhodes,

488
00:27:56.680 --> 00:27:59.160
which created something of a media frenzy till it was

489
00:27:59.200 --> 00:28:02.200
shown to be nothing more than modern builder's rubble. The

490
00:28:02.240 --> 00:28:05.799
ABC wanted again for their television show Second Opinion, which

491
00:28:05.839 --> 00:28:09.079
promoted so much unscientific quackery it really should have sought

492
00:28:09.079 --> 00:28:12.200
a few more opinions. Southern Cross University was also a

493
00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:16.359
past winner, offering a degree course in naturopathy. Former csirochif

494
00:28:16.359 --> 00:28:19.119
Flowry Marshall was also a past winner, receiving his Bentz

495
00:28:19.160 --> 00:28:22.400
Spoon for supporting water divining, and the ABC one yet

496
00:28:22.440 --> 00:28:25.279
another ben Spoon for spending lots and lots of taxpayers

497
00:28:25.319 --> 00:28:28.759
money on psychic investigators. Then there was racing car driver

498
00:28:28.839 --> 00:28:32.519
Peter Brock, who was highly tarted energy polarizer generated more

499
00:28:32.559 --> 00:28:34.799
heat in the murdering media than what it did energy

500
00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:38.279
in his car, and the Special Broadcasting Service SPS once

501
00:28:38.319 --> 00:28:40.799
won a bent Spoon for their TV program Medicine or

502
00:28:40.880 --> 00:28:44.240
myth Or, promoting alternative medical treatments as if they actually

503
00:28:44.279 --> 00:28:48.640
had some scientific credibility. There was Melbourne's Metropolitan Board of Works,

504
00:28:48.640 --> 00:28:51.440
who hired a US psychic archaeologist to de take a

505
00:28:51.480 --> 00:28:55.880
non existent electromagnetic photo field. The ABC won another Benz Spoon,

506
00:28:56.039 --> 00:28:58.839
this time for their television show The New Inventors, which

507
00:28:59.000 --> 00:29:03.119
seriously considered the pseudoscientific benefits of so called anti bio

508
00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:07.200
water conditioning system. The ABC that's one point four billion

509
00:29:07.279 --> 00:29:10.640
dollars annually of taxpayer money. But of course, one of

510
00:29:10.640 --> 00:29:13.079
the ben spurn winning stars of the past is Paleo

511
00:29:13.160 --> 00:29:16.559
Pete Evans is promotion of the bio charger, which claims

512
00:29:16.559 --> 00:29:20.799
to restore health, vigor, stamina, coordination, and mental clarity. Evans

513
00:29:20.880 --> 00:29:23.240
also won a ben Spurn for his paleo diet, which

514
00:29:23.279 --> 00:29:26.559
included the promoting burn broth as a formula replacement for babies,

515
00:29:26.599 --> 00:29:32.400
and his campaigns against fluoridation vaccination skeptics. Tenmendum says, You'll

516
00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:35.079
always find people out there with claims that fly in

517
00:29:35.119 --> 00:29:37.799
the face of science, the face of reason, the face

518
00:29:37.839 --> 00:29:39.640
of logic, simple common sense.

519
00:29:39.839 --> 00:29:41.960
It's one of the least sought after awards in the

520
00:29:42.599 --> 00:29:45.960
austrain world. It's given every year by strained skeptics, been

521
00:29:46.000 --> 00:29:48.279
given the scenes nineteen eighty one, and it's for the

522
00:29:48.319 --> 00:29:52.039
most preposterous piece of paranormal pursudo scientific people.

523
00:29:51.839 --> 00:29:53.480
Are you've rehearsed that, I have rehearsed that.

524
00:29:53.480 --> 00:29:55.759
It's very hard to say three times after drink, but

525
00:29:55.960 --> 00:29:58.960
basically it means anyone who's making ridiculous claims in the

526
00:29:59.000 --> 00:30:03.319
pseudo scientific or paranormal world, sometimes silly, sometimes quite serious

527
00:30:03.440 --> 00:30:05.039
is up for the running. And this year for the

528
00:30:05.039 --> 00:30:07.359
twenty twenty sixth award, there are quite a few candidates.

529
00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:10.440
People changing for a particular medical equipment gear that doesn't

530
00:30:10.480 --> 00:30:13.240
really do a lot all going energy machines which don't

531
00:30:13.240 --> 00:30:15.359
really do a lot, couple of people talking to the dead,

532
00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:17.440
which don't really do a lot. The person was in

533
00:30:17.480 --> 00:30:20.160
that last field, actually, but it was a particularly noteworthy

534
00:30:20.200 --> 00:30:23.160
person called Dolly Adamson. She was the winner of the

535
00:30:23.359 --> 00:30:26.240
twenty twenty sixth Bent Spoon Award. The Ben's spinnerward is

536
00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:28.640
obviously on a pluck that may have a gopher wood

537
00:30:28.680 --> 00:30:31.880
from Noah's Ark Bent Buggy Regella. So this lovely award

538
00:30:31.880 --> 00:30:34.920
went to Dolly Adamson of Kinds and Paranormal in Victoria.

539
00:30:35.119 --> 00:30:37.640
Very formal, doesn't it. Paranormal sounds like it.

540
00:30:37.640 --> 00:30:41.359
It does organization obviously, the kitchen table in the back,

541
00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:42.359
and I.

542
00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:44.240
Think it is. Yeah, it does sound like a law firm.

543
00:30:44.279 --> 00:30:46.759
But anyway, she's a lady who's been promoting the fact

544
00:30:46.799 --> 00:30:48.000
that she can talk to the dead. There are a

545
00:30:48.039 --> 00:30:49.599
number of people who come out here and claim they

546
00:30:49.640 --> 00:30:51.640
can talk to the dead, And basically what the dead

547
00:30:51.720 --> 00:30:53.960
say is the mostly name stuff you've ever heard, nothing

548
00:30:54.039 --> 00:30:57.599
like I buried the money under the floorboards as dead.

549
00:30:57.759 --> 00:30:59.480
They was forgive you, and they say it was always

550
00:30:59.559 --> 00:31:01.559
You're always one of my favorites. And you know, I'm

551
00:31:01.799 --> 00:31:04.000
really nice up here, down there, wherever they are, and

552
00:31:04.079 --> 00:31:05.759
don't do a way about me something you can just

553
00:31:05.759 --> 00:31:07.599
make up and say to anybody, which I think they

554
00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:12.039
do anyway. Dolly specializes in high profile dead children. Australians

555
00:31:12.079 --> 00:31:14.880
will know some of these cases of kids they went missing,

556
00:31:14.920 --> 00:31:17.920
the Beaumont children, three of them disappeared in an Adelaide

557
00:31:17.960 --> 00:31:21.200
beach in nineteen sixty six. William Terrell a little child

558
00:31:21.240 --> 00:31:25.319
who disappeared in New South Wales. And isn't it it is?

559
00:31:25.440 --> 00:31:28.160
It's not just entertainment. It's the pretty low low blow

560
00:31:28.240 --> 00:31:30.720
that they're doing. They also talk to their killers. Shea

561
00:31:30.839 --> 00:31:33.279
to claim either to get messages from their killers as well,

562
00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:35.000
which is even worse right, this.

563
00:31:35.079 --> 00:31:37.920
Is what they call actually identify themselves.

564
00:31:38.519 --> 00:31:42.839
It's exploitation, insulting to the grieving families, their friends. It's

565
00:31:42.839 --> 00:31:45.839
referred to as grief vampires, people who come to people

566
00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:48.640
who are who are mourning, especially in little kids cases,

567
00:31:48.680 --> 00:31:50.279
and they just take advantage of it and say that

568
00:31:50.319 --> 00:31:52.480
I can speak to the your child. She only deals

569
00:31:52.519 --> 00:31:55.680
with famous people, famous cases. He doesn't. And there with

570
00:31:56.119 --> 00:31:58.279
the ord kid down the road who's disappeared to be

571
00:31:58.400 --> 00:32:01.880
someone as a high profile owner Michael Jackson, Heath Ledger,

572
00:32:02.000 --> 00:32:04.440
Malon Munroe, Nancy Guthrie, who went on even tried to

573
00:32:05.240 --> 00:32:07.680
Harold Holstrain, Prime Minister. Joan of Art is a good

574
00:32:07.680 --> 00:32:10.599
one and the crew of the Maris left Kelly Ned

575
00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:13.359
Kelly's the other one. Yeah, so the passengers of the

576
00:32:13.400 --> 00:32:16.319
Malaysian Airlines flight there mate three seventy that disappeared in

577
00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:18.119
the indianaceans. I mean, that would have been handy to

578
00:32:18.160 --> 00:32:19.720
have to know where they are. But one of the

579
00:32:19.720 --> 00:32:22.039
best ones that she's spoken to was someone who's well

580
00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:25.119
known in the Australian media, a sovereign citizen by the

581
00:32:25.240 --> 00:32:28.240
name of Desi Freeman who some police were investigating him,

582
00:32:28.279 --> 00:32:30.240
so he shot two of them, killed them and they

583
00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:32.440
went on the run. Dolly got in touch with Desie

584
00:32:32.440 --> 00:32:34.079
and was saying, you know how you know where are

585
00:32:34.119 --> 00:32:36.160
you in trouble is he was still alive. He was

586
00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:38.279
shot later, but she was talking to a dead person

587
00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:39.880
who wasn't dead. Some of the people who've got the

588
00:32:39.920 --> 00:32:42.039
awards in the past are quite fun things, the UFO

589
00:32:42.279 --> 00:32:45.119
fanatics and psychic dentists and that sort of stuff, but

590
00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:47.599
some of them are quite serious and she's definitely in

591
00:32:47.880 --> 00:32:50.400
that area. So she was a very well deserved winner

592
00:32:50.400 --> 00:32:52.519
of the twenty twenty sixth Ben Spoon Award.

593
00:32:52.599 --> 00:32:54.599
You actually get in touch with these people and to

594
00:32:54.720 --> 00:32:57.799
know that won the award and know they do know.

595
00:32:58.079 --> 00:33:00.720
Some of them react very quickly. Pete Evan, he's one

596
00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:03.720
of twice the famous chef and the new ager. He

597
00:33:03.839 --> 00:33:06.519
was quite dismissive. Loss Coulter, the journalist who is now

598
00:33:06.559 --> 00:33:08.599
a UFO fan boy, he was pretty upset.

599
00:33:08.759 --> 00:33:11.279
He's become very famous in the States for all that too.

600
00:33:11.359 --> 00:33:13.880
Now he has he's got regular programs and he's positioned

601
00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:16.440
himself as a leading commentator of a field in which

602
00:33:16.440 --> 00:33:17.799
there has no new evidence to talk about.

603
00:33:17.880 --> 00:33:19.720
See it is. This is where you can end up

604
00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:20.799
if you win a Walkley Award.

605
00:33:20.960 --> 00:33:23.519
That's right. He's the award winning journalists who was several

606
00:33:23.559 --> 00:33:26.519
times Walkley Award being the top award for journalists in Australia,

607
00:33:26.559 --> 00:33:28.440
and he's one of the couple of times at least, and.

608
00:33:28.680 --> 00:33:30.880
That Australian talent in terms.

609
00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:34.240
Of people don't like pulling journalists out of to highlight

610
00:33:34.319 --> 00:33:36.160
them because other journalists don't like covering that.

611
00:33:36.160 --> 00:33:38.000
That's because they're all scared that they're about to be

612
00:33:38.079 --> 00:33:39.400
named themselves.

613
00:33:39.039 --> 00:33:41.759
The same probably, but there are people out there who

614
00:33:41.799 --> 00:33:44.079
are health practitioners who can actually hurt people. There's some

615
00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:47.000
news is out there unfortunately, so but we keep sort

616
00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:47.799
of pointing them out.

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