Lost Galaxy in the Milky Way: Unveiling the Stellar Remnants of Loki
SpaceTime 20261002 Series 29 Episode 118 A lost galaxy hiding deep inside the Milky Way Astronomers have discovered a group of 20 stars deep inside the Milky Way which may once have been part of another galaxy. NASA to launch a far infrared space telescope NASA has announced a new mission using a far infrared space telescope to explore the history and evolution of the universe. NASA discovers a huge new crater on the Moon NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter spacecraft has discovered a huge new asteroid impact crater on the Moon. SkyWatch October The Alpha Centauri star system, The Large and Small Magellanic Clouds, and no less than three meteor showers are among the highlights of the October night skies on Skywatch. Our Guest This Week Nina Lanza from the Los Alamos National Laboratory Justin Maki from NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena California. Our regular guests: Alex Zaharov-Reutt from techadvice.life Tim Mendham from Australian Skeptics 🌏 Get Our Exclusive NordVPN deal here ➼ www.bitesz.com/nordvpn . The discounts and bonuses are incredible! And it’s risk-free with Nord’s 30-day money-back guarantee! ✌
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Stuart Gary: This is space Time Series 29, episode 118
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for broadcast on 2nd October
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2026. Coming up on Space,
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a, uh, lost galaxy hiding deep inside the
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Milky Way. NASA to launch a new far
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infrared Space Telescope and
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discovery of a huge new crater on the surface
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of the Moon. All that and more coming up
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on Space Time.
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Welcome to Space Time with Stuart
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Astronomers have discovered a group of 20
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stars deep inside the Milky Way which may
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once have been part of a different galaxy.
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The findings, reported in the Monthly Notices
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of the Royal Astronomical Society, show how
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galaxies like our Milky Way grow and evolve
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by merging with or cannibalising other
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galaxies. Astronomers are able to
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identify the stellar remnants of other
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galaxies within the Milky Way because of
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their proper motion through space, that is
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the eccentricities of their galactic orbits
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or by their chemical composition, both of
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which are often very different from home
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grown stars in the Milky Way. This newly
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identified group of stars thought to have
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originally formed together in a dwarf galaxy
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which the authors have now named Loki, which
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must have merged with the Milky Way during
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its early evolution. These 20 stars are
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all metal poor, I.e. they contain fewer heavy
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elements compared to most Milky Way stars.
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But they're also very distinct from other low
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metallicity stars found further out in the
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halo of the Milky Way. Astronomers
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refer to all elements other than hydrogen and
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helium as metals. The earliest stars in the
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universe were made up almost exclusively of
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hydrogen and helium, because that's all there
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was. Following the Big Bang 13.8 billion
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years ago. Virtually all the other elements
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that make up today's periodic table were
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first created out of these first stars,
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either during their lives or when they died.
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And as more and more generations of stars
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were born, they were able to fuse heavier and
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heavier elements together. So by determining
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the metallicity of a star, astronomers can
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determine a star's generational age.
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Stars with relatively small amounts of
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heavier elements like iron are ah, referred
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to as metal pore or low metallicity.
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And early galaxies made up of these stars
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were the building blocks of the early
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universe. Over aeons, these
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galactic building blocks merged together,
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dispersing their stellar gaseous and dark
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matter content into the next generation of
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galaxies. Stellar surveys of the
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Milky Way have shown that most low
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metallicity stars are located in the galactic
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halo around the outskirts of the galaxy. But
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this new study looked at the chemical
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composition of A group of 20 metal pore stars
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located far away from the galactic halo in
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the disc of the Milky Way. The group
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contained both prograde and retrograde
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stars, all with fairly high eccentricities.
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The star's chemical compositions were
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compared to those of halo stars, dwarf
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galaxies and computer simulated models.
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The authors found that the chemical
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signatures in this group of 20 stars
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suggested enrichment from high energy
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supernovae, from hypernovae, from fast
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rotating massive stars, and from neutron star
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mergers, but no white dwarf explosions.
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And they say this suggests that this group of
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stars likely all originated in a short lived
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energetic dwarf galaxy. The compositions were
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the same for both prograde and retrograde
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orbiting stars, again suggesting similar
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origins. Overall, the authors say the
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results suggest that these stars all came
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from a distinct and separate origin compared
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to the metal pore stars in the galactic halo.
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Uh, this is space time
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still to come NASA to launch a new Far
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Infrared Space Telescope and discovery of a
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new crater on the surface of the Moon. All
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that and more still to come on space time,
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NASA has announced a new mission to use a Far
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Infrared Space Telescope to explore the
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history and evolution of the universe.
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The Probe Far Infrared Mission for
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Astrophysics, or prima, will be the first of
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a new class of NASA astrophysics missions
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called probe explorers. NASA's Jet
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Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California
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will manage the $1.2 billion Space Based
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Observatory, which is slated for launch in
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2033 on UM, an initial five year
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mission. The spacecraft will use a
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1.8-metre telescope to undertake deep
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surveys of the universe in the far infrared,
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helping to bridge the gap between existing
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infrared observatories like NASA's Webb Space
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Telescope and radio telescopes which operate
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at millimetre, submillimeter and radio
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wavelengths. By studying radiant energy
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that only emerges in the far infrared, PRIMA
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will address questions about the universe,
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including the origins of planets outside our
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solar system, how galaxies and their black
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holes have grown and evolved over cosmic
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history, and how dust and heavy elements have
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built up in the universe across aeons, all
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helping to paint a better picture of why the
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universe looks the way it does today.
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NASA Associate Administrator Nikki Fox says
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the PRIMA mission is humanity's next window
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into the deep universe, unveiling the obscure
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across cosmic time to better understand the
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formation of planets, stars, black holes, and
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even how water came to Earth. Following
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its selection, the PRIMA project will now
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move into Phase B, which will advance the
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preliminary design and technology for the
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development of the mission. And needless to
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say, we'll keep you informed. This
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is space time still to come.
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NASA discovers a huge new crater on the Moon
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and the Alpha Centauri star system. The Large
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and Small Magellanic Clouds and no less than
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three meteor showers are among the highest
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highlights of the October night skies on
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Skywatch.
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Scientists have discovered a huge new
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asteroid impact crater on the moon.
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Astronomers say the steep sided, 222
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metre wide crater is 43 metres deep and was
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made about two years ago, but was initially
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unnoticed. The impact also escaped real
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time detection by telescopes on Earth and in
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space. It was NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance
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Orbiter spacecraft which detected the then
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newly formed crater on the moon's near side
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in May 2024. But scientists
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remained unaware of the impact event, so they
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got around to studying the data from the
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Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter back in August
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last year. They then instructed the orbiter
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to gather more images of the impact feature,
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resulting in a final confirmation. It appears
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the impact event ejected a debris trail on
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the lunar surface more than 100 kilometres
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long. Mark Robinson, the
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chief scientist for the Lunar Reconnaissance
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Orbiter's cameras, says dust and rocky
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regolith were hurled away at a higher angle
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than expected. A separate study identified
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a seven kilometre wide cold spot near the new
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crater, consistent with the loosening of
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lunar regolith from the impact. The crate has
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been named after the late Thomas McGretchen,
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former director of Houston's Lunar and
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Planetary Institute. A report in the journal
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Science Advances claims it's the solar
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system's biggest known impact crater in
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recent times and three times larger than
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Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter's previous
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record holder more than a decade ago. The
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authors say craters of this size usually only
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happen once every 132 years, effectively
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a once in a lifetime observation.
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Robinson says Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter's
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numerous crater discoveries since its launch
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in 2009 showed that the moon's top 2 to 3
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centimetres of regolith is being overturned
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by ejected material roughly every 80,000
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years, which is faster than previously
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thought by Moon standards. It's lunar
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gardening at high speed, he says NASA's
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scientists will now need to calculate the
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risk of ejected crater materials striking the
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agency's planned moon base. That information
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will help engineers hardened structures to
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better protect future crew members. This
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is space time.
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And time now to turn our eyes to the skies
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and check out the celestial sphere for
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October. On skywatch, October is
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the tenth month of the year. And that may
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seem confusing since octo Latin Latin means
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eight rather than ten. The answer lies
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in the old Roman calendar, which had just 10
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months before the addition of January and
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February. And that 10 month year is still
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reflected today, with the name September or
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septum being Latin for 7, October or
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Octo meaning 8, November or November
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9 and December or Deci meaning 10.
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Of course, the highlight of October for kids
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and those who are young at Heart has to be
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the last day of the month celebrated as All
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Hallows Evening, or Halloween.
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Halloween is based on ancient Celtic pagan
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festivals such as Samhain, uh, the Gaelic
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festival of the dead. Samhain was eventually
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Christianized by the early church to become
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All Saints or All Hallows Eve, or simply
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Halloween. It's a time when darkness
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overtakes the light of day, a reference to
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the increasing hours of darkness as the
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planet's northern hemisphere moves towards
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longer winter nights. And so it's a time
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when the harvest comes to an end. The
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increased hours of darkness mean the boundary
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between the world of the living and the world
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of the dead becomes especially thin,
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allowing the dead and supernatural to rise
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in search of the living. And so the living
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wear disguises so as not to be recognised by
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the dead. And it's this which has led to
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today's tradition of the Halloween fancy
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dress party. In some parts of the world,
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cross dressing is popular on Halloween, a
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reflection of the secret desires and
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fantasies of their pagan ancestors,
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sometimes not so many generations removed.
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To ensure that crops and livestock survived
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the cold winter months ahead, offerings of
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food and drink would be left outside for the
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spirits and fairies of the other side. And it
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was this which ultimately led to today's
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practice of trick or treat. Also,
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candles would be lit and prayers offered to
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the souls of the dead, as Halloween was a
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time when the spirits of the dead would
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return to their former homes. Special
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bonfires were also lit on Halloween to light
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the darkness, thereby preventing souls of the
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dead from returning and keeping the evil
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away. The flames, smoke and ashes
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were deemed to have protective and cleansing
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powers and were used for divination. As
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for the tradition of carving pumpkins into
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jack o', lanterns, well, that was originally
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meant either to represent spirits or
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supernatural beings, or alternatively, to
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ward off evil spirits.
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In many parts of the world, the Christian
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religious observances of All Hallows Eve
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include attending church services and
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lighting candles on the graves of the dead.
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And Christians historically abstained from
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eating meat on All Hallows Eve. A, uh,
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tradition reflected in the eating of certain
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vegetable foods on the day, including apples,
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potato pancakes and soul cakes.
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Apple bobbing originated because the apple
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was a Celtic symbol of love, and so grabbing
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the apple with your teeth had certain erotic
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overtones. Halloween is a time
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of fortune telling and divination games,
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playing pranks to scare people, visiting
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haunted attractions, telling scary stories,
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and, of course, watching horror movies.
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Looking to the southwest, you'll see the two
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bright pointed stars which show the way to
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the Southern cross, the brightest and what
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also looks like the more distant of the two
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stars from the Southern Cross is Alpha
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Centauri, which is actually the nearest star
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system to our own solar system. Alpha
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Centauri is a triple star system comprising
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two stars, Alpha Centauri A and B, which
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orbit each other in a binary, and a third
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star, Proxima Centauri, which orbit the pair
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like the Sun, Alpha Centauri E is a spectral
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type G yellow dwarf star. It's about
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10% more massive than our sun and about one
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and a half times as luminous.
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Astronomers describe stars in terms of
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spectral types. It's a classification
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system based on temperature and
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characteristics. The hottest, most massive
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and most luminous stars are known as spectral
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type O blue stars. They are followed
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by spectral type B blue white stars. Then
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spectral type A white stars, spectral
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type F, whitish yellow stars, spectral
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type G yellow stars. That's where our sun
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fits in. Spectral type K orange
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stars.
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And the coolest and least massive stars of
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all are the spectral type M red stars.
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Each spectral classification is also
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subdivided using a numeric digit to represent
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temperature, with zero being the hottest and
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nine the coolest, and a Roman numeral to
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represent luminosity. Now, you pull all that
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together and our sun becomes a G2V
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or G25 yellow dwarf star.
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Also included in the stellar classification
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system are spectral types LT and Y,
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which are assigned to failed stars known as
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brown dwarfs, some of which were actually
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born as spectral type um M red stars, but
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became brown dwarves after losing some of
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their mass. Brown dwarfs fit into a unique
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category between the largest planets, which
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can be up to 13 times the Mass of Jupiter,
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and the smallest stars, those spectral
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type M red dwarf stars we mentioned earlier.
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These can be 75 to 80 times the mass of
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Jupiter, or about 0.08
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solar masses. Alpha Centauri
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A's binary partner, Alpha Centauri B, is
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a special type K orange dwarf star, a
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little smaller and cooler than its companion,
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with about 90% of the Sun's mass and about
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half its luminosity. This binary
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pair, Alpha Centauri A and B, orbit each
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other at between 11.2 and
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35.6 astronomical units.
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An astronomical unit is the average distance
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between the Earth and the sun, which equates
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to about 150 million kilometres, or around
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8.3 light minutes. So the
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pair's orbit around each other varies by
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between the average distance between the sun
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and Saturn and between the sun and Pluto.
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It takes the two stars 79.91
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Earth years to complete each orbit. On
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average, Alpha Centauri A and b are located
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4.37 light years from the Sun.
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Uh, although a light year sounds like a
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measure of time, it's actually a measure of
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distance. A light year is a distance of about
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10 trillion kilometres. That's the distance a
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photon can travel in a year at the speed of
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light, which is around 300,000 kilometres per
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second in a vacuum and the ultimate speed
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limit of the universe.
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The third star in the Alpha Centauri system
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is a spectral type M red dwarf star named
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Proxima Centauri. Right now, Proxima
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Centauri is just 4.25 light years away,
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making it the nearest star to the Earth other
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than the Sun. It is only loosely
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gravitationally bound to Alpha Centauri A and
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B, orbiting the pair at an average distance
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of 13,000 astronomical units, or
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around 0.21 light years.
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That's about 430 times the size of
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Neptune's 30 astronomical unit orbit around
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the sun. In 2016,
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astronomers confirmed the existence of an
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Earth sized terrestrial planet orbiting
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within the habitable zone of Proxima
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Centauri, making it the nearest known
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extrasolar or exoplanet to Earth.
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The habitable zone, which is sometimes also
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referred to as the Goldilocks zone, um, is
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that area out from a star where it's not too
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hot, not too cold, but just right for
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liquid water, essential for life as we know
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it to exist on the planet's surface. The
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planet known as Proxima B takes just 11
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Earth days to complete one orbit around its
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host star. Uh, that's far closer than
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Mercury's 88 Earth Day orbit around the Sun.
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A few years ago, a second more distant
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planet, Proxima C was also discovered
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orbiting around the star, but well outside
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its habitable zone. The second and
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slightly fainter of the two Pointer stars is
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Beta Centauri. And while Alpha Centauri is
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the third brightest star in the night, uh,
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sky, outshone only by Sirius and
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Canopus, Beta Centauri is only about the 10th
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brightest. Looking to the southeast
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and you'll see the bright blue white star
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Alpha Eridni or Achenar, which represents the
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southern tip of Eridanus, one of the largest
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and longest constellations in the sky.
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Achenar is located about 139 light
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years away. It's actually a binary
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star system comprising two stars, Alpha
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Eridani A and Alpha Rhydmi B.
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Alpha Riddinier is a height, young, spectral
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type B blue star. It has about
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6.7 times the mass of the sun and a
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stunning 3,150 times the sun's
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luminosity.
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By comparison, the companion star Alpha Rydni
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B appears to be a spectra type A white star
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with about twice the Sun's mass. The
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two stars orbit each other every 1415
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Earth years at an average distance of about
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12.3 astronomical units.
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Because of its high rotation rate of, uh,
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over 16 kilometres per second, Alpha Eridani
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A is actually one of the least spherical
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stars in the Milky Way. Spinning so
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rapidly, it's assumed the shape of an oblique
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spheroid with an equatorial diameter
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56% greater than its polar diameter.
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This distorted shape means the star displays
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a significant latitudinal temperature, with
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its polar temperature being about 20,000
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Kelvin, while its equatorial temperature is
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only around 10,000 Kelvin. That's because
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it's much further away from its stellar core.
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The high polar temperatures, uh, are
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generating a fast polar wind that's
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ejecting matter from the star and creating a
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spectacular polar envelope of hot gas and
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plasma. Now, if you look up between the
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South Celestial Pole and Achana from a really
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dark place, you'll see two faint, fuzzy
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looking clouds. Now, these aren't actually
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clouds. There are two satellite dwarf
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galaxies which orbit the Milky Way. Known as
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the Large and Small Magellanic Clouds,
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they're named after Ferdinand Magellan, who
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became the first European to officially
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record them during his expedition to
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circumnavigate the Earth between 1519 and
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1522. The bigger and
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nearer of the pair is the Large Magellanic
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Cloud, which is located around 160 light
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years away. It's easier to spot about
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halfway between Achenar and the Horizon.
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It's about 14,000 light years across,
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twice that of the Small Magellanic Cloud,
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which is located a more distant 200,000 light
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years from the Milky Way. Now, by comparison
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to these two satellite galaxies, the Milky
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Way is huge, 100,000 light years across.
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These two dwarf galaxies are separated from
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each other by roughly 75,000 light years.
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The Magellanic Clouds were considered the
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closest galaxies to the Milky way until the
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1994 discovery of the Sagittarius Dwarf
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Elliptical Galaxy and the 2003
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confirmation that the Canis Major dwarf
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galaxy is actually our nearest galactic
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neighbour. The total mass of the Magellanic
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Clouds is uncertain. Only a fraction of their
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gas seems to have coalesced into stars. And
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they also probably both have very large dark
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matter halos. Still, one recent estimate
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places the total mass of the Large Magellanic
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Cloud at about one tenth that of the Milky
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Way. The Magellanic Clouds have both been
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greatly distorted by gravitational tidal
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interactions as they're gradually torn apart
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and absorbed by the Milky Way. These
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huge tidal forces have turned both
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Magellanic Clouds into irregular, disrupted,
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barred spiral galaxies. The Large
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Magellanic Cloud still retains a very clear
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spiral structure, at least in radio telescope
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images of neutral hydrogen. But
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gravity isn't a one way street, and the
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combined gravitational force of both
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Magellanic Clouds is also affecting the Milky
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Way, distorting the outer parts of our
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galactic disc. And there are streams of
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neutral hydrogen gas clouds and isolated
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stars connecting both dwarf galaxies to
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each other and to the Milky Way. A brilliant
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example of galactic cannibalism at work.
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Now, if you look just above the Small
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Magellanic Cloud, using a backyard telescope
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or a good pair of binoculars, you'll see a
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small blurry dot that is the
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47 Tucanae globular cluster,
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a tightly packed ball of stars some 16,000
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light years away that were all originally
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formed at the same time through the
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gravitational collapse of the same molecular
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gas and dust cloud. If you look
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to the west, you'll see the bright reddish
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orange supergiant star Antares, the heart of
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the constellation Scorpius the Scorpion.
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And above it, you'll see a bunch of stars
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stretching out, shaped like a reverse
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question mark.
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That's the tail of the Scorpion.
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Now, just above and to the north is the
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constellation Sagittarius the Archer.
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Sagittarius shows the way to the supermassive
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black hole at the centre of the Milky way
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galaxy, some 27,000 light years away.
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This monster black hole, known as Sagittarius
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a, has about 4.3 million
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times the mass of our Sun.
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Now, looking to the north northwest this time
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of the year, you'll see the constellation
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Lyra the Harp and its brightest star,
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Vega, the fifth brightest star in the night
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sky and one of the closest, at, uh, just 25
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light years away. Vega is a special
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type, a white star more than twice the size
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and some 40 times the mass of our Sun.
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Now, just to the right of Lyra and almost
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directly north, just above the horizon, is
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the constellation of Cygnus the Swan and its
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brightest star, Deneb, one of the most
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luminous stars in the sky. Deneb is a
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massive spectral type, a white supergiant,
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some 19 times the mass and over 100 times
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the diameter of the Sun. The star is
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somewhere between 55,000 and
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196,000 times as luminous as the
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Sun. The huge range in luminosity
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estimate is caused by the difficulty in
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determining Deneb's exact distance from us.
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Science's best estimates place it somewhere
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around 2600 light years away, give or take
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212 light years. High
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in the northern sky right now is the
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constellation Aquila the Eagle and its
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brightest star Altair. Altair
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is another spectral type, a white star, but
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located a lot closer. Just 17 light years
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away, it's about 10 times brighter than the
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sun with about 1.89 times the sun's
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mass. Despite its size, Altair spins
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on its axis in just 10 hours compared to our
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Sun's 28 Earth Day rotation.
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Now these three stars, Altair, Deneb and
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Vega form a stellar grouping known as the
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Summer Triangle. Now also in
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October, there are three meteor showers,
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the Draconids, the Taurids and the
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Orionids. The Draconids take
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place on October 8th. They're so
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named because their meteors appear to radiate
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out from the constellation Draco the Dragon
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and so are, uh, best viewed from the Northern
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Hemisphere. They're actually produced as the
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Earth's orbit takes it through the debris
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trail left behind by the comet 21P
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Shir Kobeni Zinna, which takes about 6.6
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Earth years to make a single revolution of
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the Sun. The Taurids meteor
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shower takes place on October 10th, and as
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their name suggests, they appear to radiate
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out from the constellation Taurus the Bull.
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Their meteors are composed of larger than
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average pebbles and dust grains and are
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thought to be generated by debris left behind
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by the Comet 2P Encke. Although
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it's thought that both the Taureds and Encke
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could be the remains of an earlier comet
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which disintegrated over the past 20,000 to
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30,000 years, breaking into several pieces
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and releasing material both by normal
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cometary activity and possibly also by
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gravitational tidal interactions with the
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Earth and other planets. The Taurids
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debris stream is the largest in the inner
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solar system, taking the Earth several weeks
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to pass through and resulting in an extended
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period of meteor activity compared to other
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meteor showers, which are usually over in
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just a matter of days. Now, due to the
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gravitational perturbations of the planets,
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especially Jupiter, the Taurids have been
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spread out over time, allowing separate
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segments labelled the Northern Taurids and
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Southern Taurids to be observable at
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different times in different hemispheres. The
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Southern Taurids are active from around
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September 10 to November 20, while the
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northern Taurids are active from October 20
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to December 10. The third
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meteor shower this month is the Orionids,
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which peak on October 20th. They're
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caused by debris from the comet Hallie, which
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also causes the Eta Achorens meteor shower in
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May. Comet Hallie takes 76 years
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to complete each orbit around the Sun. It'll
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next become visible near Earth in 2061.
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The Orionids are equally spectacular in both
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northern and Southern hemisphere skies, with
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up to 20 meteors an hour, uh, radiating out
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from the constellation Orion. The best
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time to see the Orionids is just after
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midnight and right before dusk.
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And joining us now for the rest of our tour
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of the October night skies is senior science
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writer and sky and Telescope magazine
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contributor, Jonathan Nally.
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Jonathan Nally: Hi, Stuart. Yeah, well, we're still in spring
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here in Australia. We're heading towards
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summer. I can definitely feel summer coming
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along. The days are feeling different. Days
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are nice and bright and warm, and the nights
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are generally clear for us at this time of
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year and not too cold, which is really good
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for stargazing. The further we get into
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summer, even better weather wise, you know,
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because it's warmer and everything. But
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because it's summer, the days are longer and
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the hours of nighttime are less. So you have
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better conditions for stargazing, but you
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have fewer hours. So this sort of late
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springtime, pretty good for stargazing. So
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let's take a look at what we can see in the
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south at this time of the year. So really
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deep in the south, we've got the famous
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Southern Cross, of course, now it's upside
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down at the moment and it's low down in the
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southwest, so it'll be either right on the
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southern horizon for a lot of people or even
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below it.
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So you can't see it for most populated
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southern latitudes, say Sydney or Brisbane in
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Australia and other cities around the
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Southern hemisphere, similar latitudes. But
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if you're as far south as in Australia, at
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least Melbourne or Hobart, you should still
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be able to see it fairly easily this time of
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the year. Now, panning across to the left or
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the east, we can find the two Magellanic
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Cloud galaxies. Now, these are the two
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nearest sizable galaxies outside our Milky
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Way, and they're named after the explorer
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Magellan, the Magellanic Galaxies. Now, these
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just look like two little faint fuzzy clouds.
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So you really need dark sky conditions to see
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them. If you're in a big city, you can just
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forget it. I can't see them where I am with
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the unaided eye. You've really got to get
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somewhere dark or away from lights and then
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let your eyes get adapted to the dark. And so
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if you then look down the southeast, you
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might be able to see these things. So you've
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got the large Cloud, which is lower down and
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a fair distance away from it. And higher up,
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you've got the Small Magellanic Cloud. And as
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I said, these are the. These are two fairly
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sizable galaxies. And they're very close to
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the Milky Way, which is why we can see them.
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Most other galaxies, uh, I'm just thinking,
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well, there's water, two or three
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maybe you can count on one hand. The other
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galaxy you can see with the unaided eye. Um,
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the Andromeda Galaxy and a couple of others.
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But they just look like little smudges. These
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Magellanic Galaxies, they are quite big,
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which is. They look like a cloud. They look
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like a fairly sizable cloud. So you'll find
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them low down in the southeast at this time
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of year. In the early evening now, we've got
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the Milky Way stretching from north to south
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across the western half of the sky after
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sunset with the constellation Sagittarius
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and the very impressive Scorpius, which
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really does look like a scorpion. They're
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easily visible high overhead. But as the
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night goes on, by midnight, that half of the
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Milky Way will have set below the horizon,
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the western horizon, as the Earth continues
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to turn now overhead. The sky
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seems pretty reasonably empty this time of
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year. There are some deep constellations up
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there, but they don't seem pretty exciting.
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They're a bit dull. Um, they don't have a lot
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of bright stars and things. If you get a
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telescope onto them, backyard telescope, you
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00:28:24.160 --> 00:28:25.920
can see lots of things within them, but just
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to the naked eye. Capricornus, Sculptor,
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Aquarius, Cetus and others, um, they look
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fairly bland, the northern part of the sky.
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Apologies to our northern listeners, Northern
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Hemisphere listeners. But down here in the
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south, the bits that we can see at this time
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of year, it's pretty dull there as well. If
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we were much further north of the equator,
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there would be plenty of things to see. But
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if you like staying up late or getting up
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really early, the skies after midnight in
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October are really great. Because the other
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half of the Milky Way is rising in the east,
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bringing with it the fabulous constellations
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of Orion and Taurus and Gemini and Canis
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00:28:56.500 --> 00:28:58.820
Major and Papus and other ones. To me, these
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are the constellations of, um, summer. For
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people in the Northern Hemisphere, they're
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the constellations of winter. So at the
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moment, you've got to be up before dawn to
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00:29:06.180 --> 00:29:06.580
see them.
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But as the weeks go on, they'll be rising
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earlier and earlier and earlier. So by the
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time summer comes around, they'll be up
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invisible in the night sky just after sunset
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when the sky gets dark. So this, for me, is a
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sign that better weather is coming and better
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skies are coming. Lots of great stuff to see.
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And all of those constellations here have
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00:29:23.860 --> 00:29:25.620
plenty of deep sky objects, what astronomers
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00:29:25.620 --> 00:29:28.040
call deep sky objects you need telescopes
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00:29:28.040 --> 00:29:30.160
for. But even a small backyard telescope, you
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00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:32.040
can see star clusters and nebulae and all
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sorts of wonderful stuff. So, for instance,
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you've got the constellation Canis Major. It
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has the brightest star in the night sky,
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Sirius, Orion. Uh, it has the two bright
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stars, Rigel and Betelgeuse, but it also has
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the famous Orion Nebula. Now, the Orion
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Nebula is very famous in astronomy circles.
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Everyone's probably seen a picture of the
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Orion Nebula.
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Stuart Gary: Yeah, it's the one I always look for when I
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want to work out where the stars are in the
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sky. Either that or the Southern Cross.
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They're the first ones I go to.
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Jonathan Nally: Yeah, because Orion, it's, uh, got the very
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distinctive three stars in a row. And it's
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got those two other bright stars I mentioned
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right here on Betelgeuse. So it is very, very
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easy to spot. And it's right on the celestial
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equator too. So once you see it, you know,
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you know what your orientation is. With the
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Orion Nebula, the pictures you see in
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magazines and books and on the Internet and
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everything, they're taken by electronic
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cameras these days that can bring out
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fantastic colour and fantastic detail. Uh,
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you don't get that with the naked eye. You
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don't get that looking through a telescope
738
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either, unless you've got a Whopper
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telescope, which most people don't. These
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things just generally look like a bit of a
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smudge of light. So. But you can see this
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Orion Nebula as a smudge of light just with
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the unaided eye, if you've got dark enough
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sky conditions. And when you look up, you
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think, well, that's actually Orion Nebula and
746
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that's that thing. I've seen a big picture in
747
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a book that is amazing. But it's about 1500
748
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light years or so away, a little bit less.
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It's quite amazing. And it's a massive star
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cloud where new solar systems are being born.
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So it's wonderful when you look up and see
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something and you realise what you're seeing.
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Even if it might not look impressive, it's
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impressive because you can see it makes any
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sense. And of course, getting a pair of
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binoculars or a telescope under the Orion
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Nebula makes it look a whole lot better. Now,
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above the northeastern, uh, horizon that time
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in the morning again, we've got Taurus
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constellation. Taurus. And it's got these
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star clusters known as the Hyades and the
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Pleiades. We talk about the Pleiades all the
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time. It's the Seven Sisters. They look
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fantastic through binoculars. Just a pair of
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binoculars. You don't need a telescope. Just
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get some binoculars onto them and they'll
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become a lot easier to see. Uh, over the next
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couple of months, as I described, they start
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to rise higher and then get into the evening
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sty rather than the Morning star. Now let's
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turn to the planets. There are three of them
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on show just after sunset. So if you take a
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look to the west, you'll see Mercury and
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Venus. Mercury is the smaller, dimmer of the
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two lower down in the sky. Venus is the big
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bright one higher up. Now, as the days go by,
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in the first week and a half, couple of weeks
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of October, you'll see Venus will be dropping
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down lower each night down towards the
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horizon, while Mercury is actually rising
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higher up. And they'll pass each other on the
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8th, on the evening of the 8th, so they'll be
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roughly the same distance above the horizon,
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sort of next to each other. Then a few days
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later, on the 12th, the moon will make an
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appearance. It'll be joining in because the
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Moon travels through the sky night after
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night, sort of moves along night after night.
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So it eventually, um, sidles up to these two
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planets on the 12th, making a close triangle
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with them. That should be really nice to see.
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I'm going to get out and have a look at that
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one on the other side of the sky in the
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evening we've got Saturn, which is low above
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the eastern horizon.
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After sunset, give it an hour or two to rise
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up out of any murk or obstacles that might be
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on your horizon and then have a look. It's
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always best to have a look at planets when
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they're as high as they can get in the night
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sky. Saturn just looks like a, uh, fairly
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bright yellowish star to the unaided eye. But
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you get a small telescope onto it and you'll
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see that it's this giant ringed planet with
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these amazing rings going around it. Although
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at the moment they are a bit edge on towards
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us, so they don't look as great as they do at
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other times when the rings are sort of more
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00:32:35.760 --> 00:32:37.360
angled towards us. But Saturn always
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impresses everyone when they see it through a
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telescope. It's impressive the first time and
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it's impressive every time after that. It's
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really, it's one of those things, if you show
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someone Saturn through a telescope for the
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first time, they'll gasp. They go like that.
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It's involuntary. People say that is really
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00:32:50.840 --> 00:32:52.340
Saturn. It looks like what it looks like in
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00:32:52.340 --> 00:32:54.180
the pictures. Not often you can get that sort
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of thing, um, when you look through a
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telescope for the other two bright planets,
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Jupiter and Mars, again, you're going to have
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00:32:58.980 --> 00:33:00.780
to be up very late, a night owl, or you're
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going to have to wake up early before dawn
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because they both rise over the northeastern
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00:33:04.060 --> 00:33:05.780
horizon a bit after 4 o' clock in the
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morning, just as with Saturn. Give these two
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00:33:07.819 --> 00:33:09.540
planets an hour or so to rise up out of the
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00:33:09.540 --> 00:33:11.460
murk down into the horizon and you get a
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00:33:11.460 --> 00:33:13.140
better view. But don't leave it too long, of
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00:33:13.140 --> 00:33:14.580
course, because dawn will be just around the
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00:33:14.580 --> 00:33:17.300
corner. Mars doesn't look like much through a
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00:33:17.300 --> 00:33:19.260
telescope. It's a fairly small planet a long
833
00:33:19.260 --> 00:33:21.580
way away. Um, you can see that it's a planet.
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Doesn't look like a star. You can actually
835
00:33:23.020 --> 00:33:24.960
see that it's a disc of a planet, but it's
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pretty small. Jupiter on the other hand, is
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very, very impressive, really impressive.
838
00:33:29.240 --> 00:33:30.640
Through a telescope you should be able to
839
00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:33.400
make out some sort of band structure in its
840
00:33:33.400 --> 00:33:35.400
clouds, its cloud system. We can't see any
841
00:33:35.400 --> 00:33:37.360
surface, we just see the clouds. Uh, and it's
842
00:33:37.360 --> 00:33:39.799
got these sort of equatorial bands and sort
843
00:33:39.799 --> 00:33:42.160
of middle bands towards the poles. So it's
844
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got a structured sort of cloud system. You
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00:33:44.240 --> 00:33:45.800
also should be able to make out several of
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its largest moons. They just look like tiny
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00:33:48.040 --> 00:33:49.840
bright pinpricks of light. There are four of
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00:33:49.840 --> 00:33:51.360
them that are, ah, fairly easy to see. You
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00:33:51.360 --> 00:33:53.060
can even see them with binoculars. They don't
850
00:33:53.060 --> 00:33:54.540
look like pictures you would see of the moon,
851
00:33:54.540 --> 00:33:56.340
they just look like tiny pinpricks of light.
852
00:33:56.340 --> 00:33:58.180
But if you go out night after night and have
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00:33:58.180 --> 00:33:59.780
a look, you'll see that they've moved as they
854
00:33:59.780 --> 00:34:01.460
go around the planet very quickly. And
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00:34:01.460 --> 00:34:03.180
sometimes you might see two on one side and
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00:34:03.180 --> 00:34:05.380
two on the other side. Some might see three
857
00:34:05.380 --> 00:34:06.980
on one side and one on the other side.
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00:34:06.980 --> 00:34:08.580
Sometimes you might only see two or three.
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00:34:08.580 --> 00:34:09.940
You think, where are the other ones gone?
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00:34:09.940 --> 00:34:11.940
Well, they're probably around behind Jupiter
861
00:34:11.940 --> 00:34:13.660
or they could be in Jupiter's shadow if
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they're not directly behind. So that's really
863
00:34:15.540 --> 00:34:17.780
fascinating to see if you want to see what
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00:34:17.780 --> 00:34:20.180
Galileo saw, which is what helped start off
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scientific revolution.
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Stuart Gary: Yeah, but looking at Jupiter got Galileo in a
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lot of trouble.
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Jonathan Nally: Well, you won't get into trouble these days.
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You won't be put under house arrest or
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00:34:27.919 --> 00:34:29.119
anything. If you go out and have a look at
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00:34:29.119 --> 00:34:31.319
Jupiter, See, back in his days before the
872
00:34:31.319 --> 00:34:32.999
telescope was around, when people looked up,
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00:34:32.999 --> 00:34:34.759
they could just see that there were the stars
874
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which never changed position. And there are
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these planets, planets from the Greek word
876
00:34:39.039 --> 00:34:41.199
meaning wanderers, that, um, move along the
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00:34:41.199 --> 00:34:43.719
night sky in predictable paths. And people
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00:34:43.719 --> 00:34:45.359
have known about them for thousands of years.
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And that was it. That's all we knew about the
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00:34:47.239 --> 00:34:47.879
night sky.
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And of course there were all these
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mythological things about, you know, that the
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00:34:51.710 --> 00:34:54.190
heavens being perfect, you know, unchanging
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00:34:54.190 --> 00:34:56.830
perfect, and, uh, it was all God's plan sort
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00:34:56.830 --> 00:34:58.590
of thing. And, and the Earth was in the
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00:34:58.590 --> 00:35:00.270
centre of the universe and Earth was special
887
00:35:00.270 --> 00:35:01.870
and everything was supposed to go around the
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00:35:01.870 --> 00:35:03.270
Earth, which we now of course know is not
889
00:35:03.270 --> 00:35:05.430
right. But when Galileo look at Jupiter and
890
00:35:05.430 --> 00:35:07.230
he saw these little moons and night after
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00:35:07.230 --> 00:35:08.950
night he saw that their position changed, he
892
00:35:08.950 --> 00:35:10.910
thought, aha, uh-huh, they must be moon,
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that's a planet and it must have its own
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00:35:12.670 --> 00:35:14.950
moons going around it. So things aren't as
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00:35:14.950 --> 00:35:17.310
perfect as we thought they were. There are
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00:35:17.310 --> 00:35:19.750
other places out there that seem to be like
897
00:35:19.750 --> 00:35:21.950
Earth and that sort of kicked off, kicked off
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00:35:21.950 --> 00:35:23.530
the whole scientific revolution and aren't,
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00:35:23.530 --> 00:35:25.590
uh, we glad that it did. But anyway, if you
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get a chance to have a look at Jupiter
901
00:35:27.150 --> 00:35:28.870
through a small telescope, if you know
902
00:35:28.870 --> 00:35:30.110
someone who's got a scope, if you don't have
903
00:35:30.110 --> 00:35:32.150
one yourself, really do take the opportunity
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because it's quite an amazing site. And that,
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Stuart, is for sky for October.
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Stuart Gary: That's senior science writer and sky and
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Telescope magazine contributor Jonathan
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00:35:39.750 --> 00:35:41.790
Nally. And this is Space Time.
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