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S27E11: Mars could have had flowing water for hundreds of millions of years

S27E11: Mars could have had flowing water for hundreds of millions of years

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*Claims Mars could have had flowing water for hundreds of millions of years A new study based on impact crater erosion rates suggests water may have flowed across the Martian surface for hundreds of millions of years.
*New Webb telescope data shows early galaxies looked like pool noodles, surfboards New images from NASA’s Webb space Telescope show that early galaxies at the dawn of time are often flat and elongated, like surfboards and pool noodles.
*NASA’s new mission to capture star stuff Scientists are working on a new instrument to capture stardust from interstellar space. The instrument called the Interstellar Dust Experiment or IDEX will be a key component of NASA’s new Interstellar Mapping and Acceleration Probe –IMAP which will launch in just over a year from now.
*The Science Report
The World Meteorological Organization confirms 2023 was the hottest year globally since records began.
Researchers have taken a critical first step to creating a successful HIV vaccine.
Palaeontologists find a new species of tyrannosaur that’s the closest relative of Tyrannosaurus rex.
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This is Spacetime Series twenty seven,
Episode eleven, for broadcast on the twenty

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fourth of January twenty twenty four.
Coming up on Spacetime, claims Mars could

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have had flowing water for hundreds of
millions of years. New web space telescope

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data shows that early galaxies looked a
lot more like pool noodles and surfboards.

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And NASA's new mission to capture Star
staff. All that and more coming up

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on Spacetime Welcome to Space Time with
Stuart Gary. A new study based on

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Martian Impact crater erosion rates suggest water
may have flowed across the surface of the

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Red planet for hundreds of millions of
years. The findings, reported in the

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journal Earth and Planetary Science Letters,
looked at the maximum time scales for the

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formation of Martian river valley networks shaped
by flowing water. The studies le ad

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author Alexander Morgan from the Planetary Science
Institute, says that while the Red planet

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is a global freeze dried desert today, its surface preserves extensive evidence of past

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flowing water, including what appears to
be river valleys, and the time scales

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over which these river valleys formed could
have big implications for early Mars habitability.

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That's because long periods would stable liquid
water would be more conducive for the formation

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of life. The red planet's river
valley networks for more than three billion years

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ago and have long been considered among
the strongest pieces of evidence for liquid water

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on early Mars. Previous researchers already
showed they would have taken a minimum of

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tens of thousands of years to erode
these river valleys, but the frequency of

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flow events and consequently the total matter
time over which the river valleys formed,

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has never been constrained, and that's
where this new work comes in. Morgan

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and colleagues use craters that both predate
and post state the river valley system in

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order to place the maximum bounds of
hundreds of millions of years on the era

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over which these systems formed. Now, given what scientists already know about erosion

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rates on early Mars, longer time
scales implies that the conditions permitting rivers to

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flow would have been highly intermittent,
with long arid periods interspersed with brief periods

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of fluval activity. Morgan says scientists
studying early Mars have historically tended to fall

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in one of two camps. Early
Mars was either a warm, wet world

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with oceans, or it was a
cold, frozen place with massive ice sheets.

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Over the past decade or so,
scientists have come to realize that these

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descriptions are far too general, and
it doesn't really make any sense to try

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and condense hundreds of millions of years
of planetary climate history into just a two

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or three word description. You see, like the early Earth, early Mars

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was a more complex place, and
the conditions permitting surface water on Mars would

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have also varied considerably. Morgan points
out that Earth has undergone massive climatic changes

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throughout its history. For example,
twenty thousand years ago, the area what

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is now Chicago was beneath half a
mile of ice, and in the same

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way, climatic surface conditions permitting rivers
to flow on early Mars likewise, would

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have probably waxed and waned. So
looking at the overall results, it suggests

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that Martian rivers were eroding at very
slow rates, similar to parts of the

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Attakami High Desert in Chile today.
One explanation for this is that erosion might

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have been inhibited by the accumulation of
large boulders on the river bed, which

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could not be further broken down.
Another possibility, however, is that rivers

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were simply flowing very infrequently, maybe
as little as once in one hundred years,

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and that would imply that rivers on
Mars were generally dry, could become

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active when something like say volcanic activity
or variations in the planet's axial tilt and

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it's orbit around the Sun, warmed
the Martian's surface more than normal. These

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long term climatic changes are not unusual
because they also happen here on Earth.

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Earth's axial tilt often changes, as
does its orbit around the Sun. We

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call these Melancovitch cycles, and they're
responsible for many of Earth's glacial periods.

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Morgan says that over short time scales, river flows are controlled by rainfall or

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upstream snow melt, but when looking
over longer time scales, it's clear that

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Earth's rivers are affected by climatic changes. For example, twenty thousand years ago,

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there were large lakes and rivers flowing
across Wood is now Nevada, and

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Martian rivers could have operated in much
the same way, with short term viability

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due to storms and snow melt,
long term viability due to changes in the

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planet's spin or it's orbit around the
Sun. This space time still to come.

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New web telescope data shows that early
galaxies looked a lot more like pearl

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noodles and surfboards than the frisbees and
volleyballs they commonly look like today, And

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we take a close look at NASA's
new mission to capture Star Staff. All

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that and more still to come on
space time. New images from NASA's web

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Space Telescope shows that early galaxies at
the dawn of time are often flat and

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elongated, looking a lot more like
surfboards and pearl noodles than the frisbees and

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volleyball shaped galaxies we see around us
today. The findings reported in the Astrophysical

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Journal suggest that today's more common spherical
shaped elliptical galaxies disc shaped spiral galaxies were

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very uncommon in the early universe.
The studies, based on observations using Webb's

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Cosmic Evolution Early Release Science Survey.
Astronomers focused on galaxies estimated to have existed

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when the universe was between six hundred
million and six billion years old. The

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studies lead Auto Varaj Pandea from Columbia
University says roughly fifty to eighty percent of

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galaxies studied appear to be flattened in
two dimensions. Galaxies that look like pearl

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noodles or surfboards seem to be very
common in the early universe, which is

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surprising considering they're very uncommon today.
But while most of the distant galaxies looked

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like surfboards and pearl noodles, there
were some which were shaped like frisbees and

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volleyballs. The volleyball or elliptical shaped
galaxies appear the most compact type and the

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cosmic ocean early times, but were
also the least frequently identified. On the

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other hand, the frisbee or spiral
shaped galaxies, while still rare, were

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found to be at least as large
as the surfboard and pull noodle shaped galaxies,

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but became more common as the universe
aged and the observations raised an interesting

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question. See our milky Way is
about twelve billion years old, so when

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it started to form, it would
have formed right at the time when there

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were lots of pill noodles and surfboards. So what would our spiral milky Way

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galaxy have looked like back then?
Well, according to the authors, their

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best guess is that it probably would
have looked something like a surfboard. This

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hypothesis is based partly on new evidence
from web theorists have wound back the clock

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to estimate the Milky Ways mass billions
of years ago, which would correlate to

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the shape it hat at that time. See, these distant galaxies are all

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far less massive than nearby spirals and
elliptical galaxies which we see today. That's

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because in the early universe, galaxies
had far less time to grow. The

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authors say, the question now is
to determine how galaxies reached their shape through

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their process of merger and evolution.
This is space time still to come new

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mission to capture star stuff, and
later in the science report, paleontologists discover

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a new species of tyrannosaur that's the
closest relative yet of the famous Tyrannosaurus rex.

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All that and more still to come
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to Space Time and Space Time with
Stewart Gary. Scientists are working on a

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new instrument to capture stardust from interstellar
space. The instrument, called the Interstellar

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Dust Experiment or IDEX, will be
a key component of NASA's new Interstellar Mapping

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and Acceleration Probe IMAP, which will
launch in just over a year from now.

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The IMAP spacecraft will travel to a
gravitational will between the Earth and the

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Sun known as the Lagrangian L one
position. It's located about one hundred and

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sixty million kilometers from Earth and is
a point in space where the gravitational forces

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of the Sun and Earth tend to
cancel each other, thereby allowing a spacecraft

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to remain in orbit at this position
with very little expenditure of fuel. From

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its perch at L one, IMAPP
will spend two years collecting and analyzing the

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composition of literally hundreds of thousands of
microscopic dust particles floating past now. A

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lot of these will be particles in
the solar wind streaming out from the Sun,

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as well as from passing comets and
asteroids, and the zodiacolte, which

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a particle was blurn into space by
massive dust storms on the red planet Mars.

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But also included in the catch will
be grains from interstellar space particles flowing

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into our Solar System from the vast
expanses between the stars and the Milky Way

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galaxy. These will include dust particles
from other star systems and the remains of

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exploded stars called supernovae. Supernovae are
important because it's thought one supernova explosion not

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too far from where we are now
probably triggered the collapse of a molecular gas

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and dust cloud which wound up forming
our son in Solar System four point six

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billion years ago. But interstellar dust
grains are spread so thin the instrument will

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probably only collect a few hundred of
them during its lifetime, and so each

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and every small speck of interstellar dust
will be a treasure trave of information.

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Of course, most of them will
have been altered as they travel through interstellar

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space, but they'll still be the
closest material we have for understanding the original

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building blocks of our solar system.
So far, astronomers have only ever captured

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just a few dozen grains of interstellar
dust, and that will make each new

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find by IDEX precious. Detecting and
analyzing them in space will open up new

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windows into the universe. Built over
the past six years by a team at

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the University of Colorado, Boulder,
IDEX will be one of ten scientific packages

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aboard the IMAP spacecraft IMAPS being assembled
at the Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory

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in Maryland. The IDEX instrument looks
a lot like a large drum. It

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features a fifty centimeter white aperture at
one end designed to capture dust zooming buy

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It's sort of like a baileing whale
feeding. IDEX will record how fast these

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particles are moving, what they're made
of, and the direction from which they're

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coming. And this isn't the team's
first project. They previously designed and build

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a similar instrument called the Surface Dust
Analyzer a SCOOTER, which is part of

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NASA's Europa Clipper mission, which is
slated to launch to the Jovian Moon later

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this year, and they built an
earlier version which was mounted aboard NASA's New

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Horizons mission spacecraft to Pluto. It's
now exploring the dark outer reaches of the

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Solar System. IIDEX project manager Scott
Tucker says trapping dust in space is no

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easy feet that's because interstellar dust particles
are very rare. His team's made the

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instrument roughly two and a half times
bigger than scooter because the bigger the mouth,

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the more particles you can catch.
Each grain of dust will likely be

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rich in elements like silicon and carbon, and may I only measure a few

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millions of a centimeter across, making
things more difficult. Some will be traveling

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at speeds of will over one hundred
thousand kilometers per hour, and as these

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grains crashed into the back of IDEX, they'll instantly vaporize in a cloud of

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ions, which the instrument will then
collect and analyze. Tucker says the main

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challenge with IDx is being what engineers
referred to as dynamic range. See the

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instrument needs to capture both really fast
and large particles as well as smaller,

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slower moving ones and then measure them
all using the same instrument. This report

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from the University of Colorado, Boulder. Interstellar dust from outside our solar system

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enter our solar system and we don't
know a lot about its composition, mass,

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and speed, and so IDEX throughout
its orbit will be able to answer

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some questions that kind of remain unanswered
from past missions. IDEX, first of

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all, is an instrument. One
of the instruments on the IMAP mission.

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IMAPP is going to fly to a
location called one, which is Lagarage point

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one, which is about one percent
of the way from the Earth to the

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Sun, and it's gonna sit there
HIGHDEX is gonna look off into space,

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and it's gonna measure interstellar dust particles
that arrive at that point in space.

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This is a way for us to
learn more, not just about our solar

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system, but a way for us
to learn about extrasolar systems, and instead

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of just looking at the light that
those systems produce, we can actually get

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the material that is coming into our
solar system. And so we have this

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chance an opportunity to learn more,
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but from a chemical standpoint, what
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and systems might be. Like the
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by the Sun and it doesn't collide
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it's the same way that it was
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at these dust particles, we can
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was like many years ago. And
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Boulder, we heard from IDEX Project
Manager Scott Tucker, IDEX instrument in

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Jeanie Christina Davis, and IDEX Research
assistant Ethan I Yari this space time and

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time that to take another brief look
at some of the other stories making us

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in science this week. With a
science report, the World Meteorological Organization has

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confirmed that twenty twenty three was the
hottest gee globally since records began. Following

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their original declaration back in November last
year, the organization has consolidated data from

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six leading global weather monitoring data sets, concluding the average annual global temperature for

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twenty twenty three was one point four
five five degrees plus or minus zero point

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one two degrees celsius above pre industrial
levels. Considering the shift from l Ninia

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to El Nino conditions in late twenty
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Ninia today, the Ward Meteorological Organization
says it's now possible that twenty twenty three

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record could be broken. In twenty
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critical step in creating a successful HIV
vaccine. A report in the journal's Cell

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claims researchers activated specific immune cells that
induce broadly neutralizing antibodies. The study confirms

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that these antibodies are at the structural
and genetic levels similar to human antibodies needed

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as the foundation for a protective HIV
vaccine. The authors had previously isolated naturally

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occurring broadly neutralizing antibodies from an individual
and then backtrack them through all the changes

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the antibody and the virus underwent to
reach a point of origin for the native

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antibody and its binding site on the
HIV envelope. This allowed the authors to

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engineer a molecule that elicits antibodies that
mimic the native antibody and its binding site

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on the HIV envelope. The human
immune deficiency virus HIV is an infection that

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attacks the body's immune system, causing
acquired immuno deficiency syndrome or AIDS. It's

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thought of originated from infected primates in
western Central Africa and was first identified in

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humans in May nineteen eighty one.
HIV targets the body's white blood cells,

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specifically helper T cells. It also
attacks macrophasas and dendritic cells, weakening them

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and causing a progressive featherure of the
immune system. This allows a wide range

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of so called opportunistic diseases, such
as tuberculosis and several types of cancer to

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become critical, eventually killing the patient. The World Health Organization estimates at least

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fifty two million people have been killed
by AIDS, with another forty million currently

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living with HIV. Palaeontologists of uncovered
a new species of a tyrannosaur that may

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be the closest known relative to Tyrannosaurus
rex. The new therapere dinosaur, named

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Tyrannosaurus macronesis, was found at the
Whole Lake Formation in New Mexico. The

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findings, published in the journal Scientific
Reports, are based on a fossilized durw

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and partial skull originally thought to belong
to a t Rex. However, numerous

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subtle differences in the shape of enjoins
between the skull bones eventually led the authors

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that determine it belonged to a new
and different species. The dur of Macaranesis

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is far more slender than the more
robust, lowered you're seen on t Rex.

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The other main difference lies in the
prominent ridge or post orbital bone,

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that's the bone around the eye that
might have something to do with how the

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species attracted a mate. The new
tyrannosaur is thought to have lived between seventy

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one and seventy three million years ago, that's between five and seven million years

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before t Rex. Samsung have just
released their new Galaxy S twenty four lineup,

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and it's full of new features which
will force Apple and Google to up

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their game. The new Galaxy smartphone
includes a range of AI capabilities, including

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photo editing using the new Snap drag
and eight generation three chip set for improved

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graphics and AI features. With all
the details, we're joined by technology editor

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alex'harov Freud from Tech Advice, Start
Life This is Samsung's attempt to make AI

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effortless. You know, the creativity
that it can offer for in users via

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text messages, a thing called Circle
to search cameras, a new five times

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optical zoom camera with a thing called
nitography WHI which it takes excellent low light

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photos and videos with a sixty percent
larger pixel size for the camera center and

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the new stronger optical image stabilizer so
that when you are taking these long shots

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with the zoom they are as sharp
and as clear as possible. And you

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also don't have a thing called a
flat screen, so it's much easier to

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apply it spreen protectors and also better
for writing on. The S twenty four

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Ultra has a titanium frame, so
matching the iPhone. The S twenty four

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and S twenty four plus have aluminium
frames, and they also have the Qualcom

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snap Dragon eight Gen three chip,
the one that supercharged with AI smarts.

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But of course there's a special Galaxy
addition and that allows you to do things

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like translate live in one of thirteen
different languages whilst you're having a phone call.

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So when you're talking to somebody and
you're in English, there in Spanish

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for example. You can choose the
languages. I think it can detective,

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but certainly you can choose the languages
you want. You speak, it translates,

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they speak, it translates and you
can have a conversation. And I

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tried it at CES. There was
an embarigoed session where I gave it a

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go and it actually it works very
cool. Then you got this circle to

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search, so you can tap the
little white line which is the home button

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effectively. Now you know normally you'd
swipe up, but you hold your finger

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on that. Then in any video, any web page, anywhere that you

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are, you can then circle around
something with your finger or the stylust and

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Google search and that this is nothing
can induction with Google. It will search

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just for that, so you can
do a visual search of anything, which

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is extremely cool. You can now
type messages in one language and have them

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appear in another via the same live
translation capability. You can now have HDR

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photos, not just in the main
camera app, but things like Instagram.

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You can also write something in the
note taking app or just anywhere, and

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then the keyboard allows you to change
the tone of what you've written, so

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an informal tone to your friends,
or a formal tone for your boss.

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If you're typing things out or even
handwriting them, the note app can take

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your wonky handwriting and make it nice
and straight. You can take your notes

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and put it into bullet point format
and give it proper headings. If you

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are recording your voice and you've got
multiple people recording a session, it can

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break the voices up into speaker one, speaker two, speaker three. It

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can transcribe it all for you can
even translate that to a different voice.

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And that's just for free part of
the system. Normally you'd have to pay

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twenty dollars a month to a service
like otter dot Ai. And you know,

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there's just so many cool little features
inside. But this is sad Sung

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throwing down the gauntlet to Apple,
to Google, everybody to say this is

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the new standard. And Samsung is
backing it up with seven years not just

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of security updates but operating system updates. That's to match what Google has promised

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for his Pixel phones, and also
to outclass Apple where it can, who

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normally does at least five years.
I think the one thing that Samsung still

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doesn't have nailed down is the ability
to get the updates out on the same

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day simultaneously for all of its phones
globally, and that's something that Google can

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do because it has a much smaller
series of phones. Samsung has a very

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wide clutch of phones. Samsung just
lost the crown for selling the most smartphones

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to Apple in twenty twenty three,
and I'm sure they want to get it

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back. They've got more competition than
ever, very impressive phone. Google is

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going to have to do some big
work to match the features with their Google

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Pixel eight and eight Pro with their
feature drops, and of course Apple is

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We're expecting great things from Apple at
the Worldwide Developer Conference in the middle of

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this year with the iowsad team and
all of the AI updates, and also

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with the iPhone sixteen Pro. So
great news forward smartphone edits. That's Alex

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