Rogue Worlds and Solar Power

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This is Space Time, Series 28,
Episode 104, for broadcast on

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the 29th of August, 2025. Coming
up on Space Time, claims that

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giant free-floating planets may
form their own planetary

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systems, Europe's Space Rider
spacecraft completes another key

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test, and could we use
space-based solar panels to

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power the Earth? All that and
more coming up on Space Time.

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Welcome to Space Time with
Stuart Gary.

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A new study has found that giant
free-floating so-called rogue

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planets have the potential to
form their own miniature

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planetary systems without the
need of a host star. The

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findings, reported on the
pre-press physics website

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archive.org, based on
observations from the Webb Space

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Telescope.

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Looking at young isolated
objects with masses of 5 to 10

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times that of Jupiter. These
objects are comparable to gas

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giants in their properties, but
are free-floating in space, not

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bound to any host star, as
Jupiter is to the Sun.

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Free-floating planets are
difficult to observe, because

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they're very dim and they
radiate mostly in the infrared.

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But they hold keys to important
questions about astrophysics.

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Current research suggests that
these may well be the lowest

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mass objects formed like stars
from the collapse of molecular

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gas and dust clouds. But in
contrast to stars, they don't

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accumulate enough mass to
trigger the core nuclear fusion

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process which makes stars shine.

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Now in theory, it's also
possible that some of these may

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have formed in a way comparable
to how planets form through the

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accumulation of material around
a star. But they were later

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ejected from their home system
through some sort of

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gravitational perturbation. To
work out what's going on,

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scientists observed eight of
these objects, all very young,

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in order to learn more about
their infancy.

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They used two instruments aboard
the Webb Space Telescope to

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obtain detailed infrared
spectroscopic observations of

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these objects over a period of
three months. Six of these

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objects have excess emissions in
the infrared caused by warm dust

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in their immediate vicinity.

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And that's important, because
that's a characteristic

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signature of disks, which are
often the birthplaces of

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planets. The observations also
showed emission lines for

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silicon grains in the disks.
That's a clear sign of dust

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growth and crystallization, and
typically the first steps in the

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formation of rocky planets.

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Now, silicon emissions have been
found for stars and brown dwarfs

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before, but this is the first
detection in a planetary mass

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object. One of the study's
authors, Alex Schultz from the

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University Of St. Andrews, says
the new findings built on

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previous work showing that disks
around free-floating planetary

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mass objects can last several
million years, which is plenty

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of time to form planets.

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Schultz says that taken
together, these studies show

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that objects with masses
comparable to those of gas

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giants have the potential to
form their own miniature

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planetary systems. And those
systems could be like our solar

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system, just scaled down by a
factor of 100 or more in size.

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These new discoveries show that
the building blocks needed for

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forming planets can be found
even around objects that are

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barely larger than Jupiter, and
drifting alone in the darkness

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of space. It means that the
formation of planetary systems

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is not exclusive to stars and
brown dwarves, but may also work

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around lonely starless worlds as
well.

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But whether or not such
planetary systems actually exist

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still remains to be seen. This
is Space Time. Still to come,

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the European Space Agency's
reusable StarRider spacecraft

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completes another key test, and
could we use space-based solar

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panels to power the Earth? All
that and more still to come on

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Space Time.

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The European Space Agency's
reusable Space Rider has just

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completed the latest phase of
its development campaign with a

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successful qualification test of
the vehicle's nose cone. The

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largest single component of the
spacecraft's thermal protection

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system. This latest mission
followed a successful

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qualification test of the
vehicle's body flaps back in

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February.

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Once operational, SpaceRider
will provide ESA with its first

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orbital return-to-Earth and
landing capability. The

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wedge-shaped lifting-body design
spacecraft will be launched

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aboard a Vega-C rocket into
low-Earth orbit and will be

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capable of carrying payloads of
up to 800 kilograms. Once in

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space, it'll operate as an
unmanned laboratory for periods

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of over two months.

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The payload bay is
environmentally controlled and

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provides services including 600
watts of power for experiments

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along with thermal, control,
data handling and telemetry

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capabilities. It'll then
re-enter Earth's atmosphere and

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land using parasails. Returning
their payloads to Eger engineers

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and scientists, and after
minimal refurbishment, should be

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ready for its next mission with
new payloads.

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ESA's Director of Space
Transportation, Daniel

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Neuenschwinger, says space-rider
missions will offer an array of

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orbital altitudes and
inclinations, enabling a variety

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of experiments in microgravity,
as well as technologies for

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Earth observation, science,
telecommunications and robotic

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exploration.

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It's a fact that today Europe
does not have this capacity.

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It is also a fact that if
corresponding decisions are

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taken at the end of the year,
Europe will have it tomorrow.

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And in fact, At ESA we had
already a technology

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demonstration of a re-entry on
Earth, which took place a few

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years ago with an experimental
vehicle called IXV. And based on

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this experience, which was
highly successful and launched

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by Vega by the way, we are now
developing SpaceRider. During

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low Earth orbit operation in
microgravity, the vehicle can

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turn, maneuver according to the
mission it has.

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And then at the moment in time
you start the re-entry on Earth

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in fact you have a dedicated
angle of attack you start to

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enter into the atmosphere and
this is what we call a lifting

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body meaning there are no no
plane type of structures it's

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just a body which has a certain
angle of attack enters into the

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upper part of the atmosphere at
high speed we call it hypersonic

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and then the speed is decreased
through the drag.

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And when it starts to become
subsonic you have lowered

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significantly the speed and once
you have reached a certain level

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you can deploy a parafoil and
once with the parafoil deployed

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you can have a precision landing
on the runway somewhere in

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Europe we do a call for
opportunities and we will have

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different flight opportunities
planned for example in

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microgravity research so if you
are coming from a university

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that's for sure an opportunity
like in material sciences or

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pharmaceutical field, biological
field at large scale.

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Second we will work on
commercial opportunities and

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here we have already quite good
exchanges again with the

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pharmaceutical industry and we
will look for further in orbit

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validation and demonstration of
technologies which have to be

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tested and qualified in space
before they go. On big and

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costly missions.

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That's ESA's Director of Space
Transportation, Daniel

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Neuenschwender, and that report
was on ESA TV.

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This is Space Time. Still to
come, could we use space-based

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solar panels to power the Earth?
And later in the Science Report,

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a new study shows that dogs are
more likely to react to

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on-screen animal characters on
TV than to human TV characters.

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All that and more still to come
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Well, it may sound futuristic,
but scientists believe that

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space-based solar panels could
eventually allow humans to

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harvest energy from the Sun
almost continuously at any

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moment of the day. The big
problem with solar panels and

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wind turbines, of course, is
that they don't provide reliable

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electricity.

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That's because the Sun doesn't
shine all the time and the wind

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doesn't blow continuously. Also
with wind turbines, their carbon

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footprints greatly exceed the
amount of carbon they save. And

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both have the ongoing problem of
what to do with them when they

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wear out in 20 years time.

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And that's why scientists and
engineers are looking at

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alternatives. And one of them
involved two space-based

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projects to put solar panels in
orbit. The first of the two

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projects, named the Innovative
Heliostat Swarm, is in early

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development. But is the most
likely to be able to

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continuously capture Solar
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It's a space-based Solar Power
concept, involving a large array

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of mirror-like reflectors or
heliostats in space that direct

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sunlight to a central receiver,
converting it into electricity

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and then transmitting it
wirelessly down to Earth, likely

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using either microwaves or laser
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The design incorporates
innovations like retro-directive

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RF transmission arrays, highly
efficient PV cells and modular

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structures. Overall, the model
estimates that the heliostat

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design will reduce total system
costs by about 7-15%, offset up

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to 80% of wind and solar, and
reduce battery usage by over

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70%.

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The second concept is named the
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much closer to being ready. But
it'll only capture Solar Energy

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around 60% of the time. Still,
it's a big step from solar

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panels based on Earth. The array
uses an arrangement of solar

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antenna elements in a flat
rectangular grid similar to

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those already used by satellites
and space stations, so we know

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it's going to be reliable.

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Microwave or infrared emitters
will then be used to transmit

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that energy down to Earth. But a
report in the journal Joule

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warns that both current designs
are still not yet

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cost-effective. Nevertheless,
scientists hope the two systems

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can be honed in order to help
with Earth's future net-zero

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needs. This is Space Time.

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And time now to take another
brief look at some of the other

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stories making use in science
this week with the Science

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Report. A new study claims that
diets rich in omega-3 fatty

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acids, which are found
predominantly in fish, may help

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ward off short-sightedness in
kids. Meanwhile, a high intake

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of saturated fats found in foods
such as butter, palm oil and red

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meat may increase the risk of
short-sightedness.

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A report in the British Journal
Of Ophthalmology looked at the

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eyesight of around 1,000
children and compared the

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development of eye conditions
against the results of a food

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frequency questionnaire. They
also asked how much time the

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kids spent outdoors, how much
time they spent reading and

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writing, and how much time they
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The authors found that the
quarter of kids who consumed the

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least amount of omega-3 fatty
acids also had the largest

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markers for the progression of
short-sightedness. Meanwhile,

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the quarter of children who had
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fatty acids had the smallest
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they also found the inverse to
be true. For kids who consume

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the highest intake of saturated
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A new study has shown that while
fans can help keep you cool in

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hot temperatures, in really dry
hot temperatures, they'll

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actually make things worse. A
report in the Journal Of The

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American Medical Association
subjected 58 people to various

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three-hour heat exposure tests,
looking at how temperature and

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humidity impacted the
effectiveness of a fan or

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wetting the skin or reducing
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The authors say that in 38
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humidity, fan use marginally
improved body temperature and

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participants reported feeling
less warm. But in 45 degrees

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Celsius dry heat, they found
that using a fan actually

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increased the participants' body
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and made them feel far more
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A new study has shown that dogs
are more likely to react to

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on-screen animal characters than
humans or other objects

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displayed on TV.

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The findings, published in the
journal Scientific Reports,

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examined the reactions of 450
puppies. The dogs reported as

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excitable by their owners were
more likely to follow on-screen

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animals as if they were real,
while fearful or anxious dogs

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were more likely to respond to
stimuli such as cars or a

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doorbell.

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The authors warned their
findings may not apply to all

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dogs, as the survey respondents
were all pet owners whose dogs

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regularly interacted with TV
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And time now for our silliest
story of the week. And it seems

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there's a new contender for the
title of Britain's most haunted

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pub.

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The owner of the year-oldy King
's Head Hotel in Chester claims

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he's experienced bed covers
wrapping tightly around him all

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by themselves, strange knocking
noises and the sounds of ghostly

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children running down the
hallway. Tim Mendham from

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Australian Skeptic says it's
worth pointing out the owner is

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developing a TV series based on
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There is a hotel in Cessna
called Ye Olde Kingshead, which

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is the most haunted hotel in
England. It's not Britain, but

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aren't they all? There's a lot
of most haunted buildings in the

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UK, of whatever sort. And this
one is one that's been around

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for a while, an old pub that
someone bought. They've built it

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up a bit and now suddenly there
's all these sort of hauntings

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happening.

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It's more sort of ghost here
than there is in any other

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haunted hotel. Roman warriors,
civil war soldiers, women and

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children running up and down the
corridors when it was used as a

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brothel, apparently. So it
sounds exciting. This fellow who

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's bought it recently and
renovated it has now put cameras

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in every room, which is a worry
if you want to stay there.

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Uh-oh. Yes, and I think I want
to stay there with someone

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watching me. Not only do people
don't stay there very long, they

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all go running away screaming
because it's a haunted place.

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But of course, you have to also
keep in mind that this is a

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fellow who hosts a podcast
called My Haunted Project. He

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had several properties and
this...

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Haunted project is focused on
quote changing the paranormal

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and evolving it to a new level
based on real evidence

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eyewitness accounts and 24-7
surveillance he also has a whole

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range of different displays
including the great doll which

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is a haunted or sort of cursed
doll much like the doll in the

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u.s much the same sort of thing
which has their own room that's

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in a special glass case said to
be the UK's most haunted

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artifact he's got a prime video
program called my haunted hotel

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theories with creatures This is
the oldie king's head pub.

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He certainly has some money in
this that he wants this to be

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true. Whether he really believes
in it, it's certainly promoted.

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It's one of the sad things that
these days so many groups, so

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many buildings, so many
organizations are putting up

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their premises for ghost tours.

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I was going to say, he's got
some competition because just

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about every hotel in the UK is
said to be haunted.

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Yeah, every pub, every ancient
castle, every, you know what,

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same in America, there's so many
places. I've even heard of ghost

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tours of the Smithsonian.
Museum, which is a bit

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depressing, actually, when you
see a body devoted to science,

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promoting pseudoscience, to get
some people to wander through,

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to add some excitement to the
museum and make some money on

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the side.

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I definitely think it's NASA who
promoted perigee moons as being

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supermoons. So anything to get
people interested in science, no

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matter what it takes.

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Yes, I find that rather sad,
actually, that anything

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including pseudoscience to get
people interested in the

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science. But it's happening all
over the place. You'll find so

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many...

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Buildings that have been
promoted to get some people

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wandering through it. But this
guy is obviously has quite a few

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runs on the board. He's quite
experienced in the hauntings and

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he's sort of made a career out
of it. And that always worries

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me a bit.

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That's Tim Mindum from
Australian Skeptics.

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