April 29, 2026

Mars' Organic Molecules, Cosmic Buckyballs Unveiled, and Voyager 1's Power Dilemma

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SpaceTime Series 29 Episode 51 *Discovery of organic molecules never before seen on Mars New data has confirmed that NASA’s Mars Curiosity Rover has identified seven organic molecules on the red planet that have never been detected there before. *A spectacular new understanding of cosmic buckyballs Fifteen years after astronomers first discovered buckyballs in space, new observations have now shown how they’re distributed in a shell around the corpse of a dying star. *NASA shuts down another instrument on Voyager 1 to keep it operating NASA has been forced to shut down an instrument aboard the Voyager 1 spacecraft in order to conserve power and keep humanity’s first interstellar explorer operational. *The Science Report New implants to help sleep apnea sufferers who can’t use breathing masks. Palaeontologists have identified a new species of sauropod dinosaur. Artificial Intelligence successfully judge a person’s mood by the expression on their face. Alex on Tech: $25 billion for a new Aussie AI centre.

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This is Spacetime Series twenty nine, episode fifty one, for

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broadcasts on the twenty ninth of April twenty twenty six.

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Coming up on Spacetime, discovery of organic molecules never before

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seen on Mars, a spectacular new understanding of cosmic buckyballs,

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and NASA forced to shut down another instrument on the

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Voyager one spacecraft in order to keep it operating. All

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that and more coming up on space Time.

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Welcome to space Time with Stuart Gary.

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New data is confirmed that NASA is Mars Curiosity rover

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has identified seven organic molecules on the red planet that

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have never been detected there before. The newly found molecules

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were among twenty one carbon tanny molecules identified in a

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sample collected by the six world car sized mobile Laboratory

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back in twenty twenty. Scientists have no way of knowing

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whether these organic molecules were created biologically or through geologic processes.

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The problem is both paths are possible, but their discovery

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has renewed confirmation that ancient Mars did have the right

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chemistry to support life. The newly found molecules joined a

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growing list of compounds then to be preserved in rocks

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even after billions of years of exposure on Mars to

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radiation which break down these molecules over time. The findings

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were reported in the journal Nature Communications suggests the rock sample,

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which has been nicknamed Mary Anning three after a British

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fossil collector and paleontologist, were collected on Mount Sharp, the

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five and a half kilometatore central peak of Gale Crater.

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It's an area that was covered by lakes and streams

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billions of years ago when Mars was a warmer, wetter

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world compared to the freeze dried desert it is today.

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It's an area which scientists believe surged and dried up

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model times through the planet's past, eventually enriching the area

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with clay minerals that were especially good at preserving organic compounds.

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By the way organic compounds means carbon containing molecules, it

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could be the building blocks of life and which are

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found throughout our solar system. Among the newly identified molecules

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is a nitrogen heterocycle, a ring of carbon atoms that

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includes nitrogen, and this kind of molecular structure is considered

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a precursor to RNA and DNA. The two nucleic acids

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key for genetic formation. The Steadies. Lead author Amy Williams

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from the University of Florida in Gainesville, says that discovery

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is profound because these structures can be chemical precursors to

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more complex nitrogen bearing molecules. Nitrogen heater cycles had never

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been seen on the Martian surface before, nor have they

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ever been confirmed in Martian meteorites found here on Earth.

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Another exciting discovery was spenzothiopine, a carbon and sulfur bearing

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molecule that has been found in many meteorites. These metia rites,

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along with the organic molecules within them, are thought by

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some scientists who have seeded prebartic chemistry across the early

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Solar System. A new discovery follows last year's finding of

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the largest organic molecules ever discovered on Mars, long chain hydrocarbons,

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including decayne, undercane, and dodocane. This collection of organic molecules

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increases the prospect that Mars could have provided a habitable

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environment for past life. Both sets of findings were made

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using a sophisticated mini lab on curiosity called the Sample

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Analysis at Mars Instrument or SAM for short, A drill

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on the end of the rover's robotic arm. First pulverise

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as a carefully selected rock sample, turning it into powder,

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and then pouring it into SAM, where a high temperature

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oven heats the material, releasing gases which can then be

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analyzed by spectrographs to reveal the rock's composition. And it

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doesn't end there. SAM also performed wet chemistry on the rock,

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dropping a Marianni three sample into a small contenter of solvent.

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The resulting chemical reactions can break apart larger molecules, which

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would be difficult to detect and identify otherwise. These results

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were then verified by similar tests on Earth using a

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piece of the famous Murchison meteorite, one of the most

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studied meteorites of all time. More than four billion years old,

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the Murchison meteorite was discovered near the town of Murchison

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in Victoria. It contains organic molecules that were seeded throughout

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the early Solar system. The Murchison sample tested broke much

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larger molecules as some of the same ones seen in

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mary Anning three, including benzothypine, and that verifies that the

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Martian molecules found in mary Anning three could have been

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generated from the breakdown of even more complex compounds relevant

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for life. This is space time still to come, a

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spectacular new understanding of cosmic buckyballs, and NASA forced to

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shut down another instrument, the Voyager Want Spacecraft. All that

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and more still to come on space time. Fifteen years

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after astronomers first discovered bucky balls in space, new observations

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have shown how they're distributed in a shell around the

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corpse of a dying star. Buckey balls, or Buckminster fullerines,

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to use their full name, are sucker ball shaped molecules

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that resemble Hollow's spheres. These molecules, which contain sixty perfectly

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arranged carbon atoms, were first synthesized back in nineteen eighty

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five at the University of Sussex by Harry Croto and

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colleagues in a breakthrough which earned him the nineteen ninety

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six Nobel Prize in Chemistry. Proto named the molecule after

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the famed architect Buckminster Fuller, who designed and developed geodesic rms,

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which share the same structural principles. Proto immediately predicted that

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bucky balls would be widespread and abundant throughout the Cosmos,

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and twenty five years later in twenty ten, yarn Kami

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from Western University detected them in space for the first

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time using NASAs Spitzer Space Telescope. Stunning new observations by

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the WEB Space Telescope have now provided fresh details about

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the bucky balls and the planetary nebula TC one, formed

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by dying sunlike star more than ten thousand light years

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away in the constellation Ara. The TC one planetary nebula

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is what remains of a sun like star after it

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exhausts its core nuclear fuel supply and sheds its outer

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layers in expanding shells of gas and dust. What's left

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behind is the white hot stellar core, called a white dwarf.

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This floods its surroundings with ultraviolet radiation, causing the expelled

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gas to glow. This process, unfolding over tens of thousands

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of years, sculpts the intricate structures now visible by WEB.

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The carbon rich chemistry of tc IE, including its bucky balls,

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reflects the composition of the star that made it a

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window interstellar revolution written in molecules. Cami and colleagues use

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web's mid infrared instrument to capture the first ever detailed

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view of this planetary nebula, revealing delicate rays, wispy filaments,

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and shimmering shells of hot blue gas and colder red material.

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At the heart of the nebula, they saw an ethereal

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feature resembling an upside down question mark, hinting at a

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degree of complexity still waiting to be understood. Cami says

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he knew TC one was special, but the web data

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goes far beyond what he anticipated. It's providing new insights

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into the nature of buckyballs and why they shine so

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exceptionally bright in this specific planetary nebula, questions which have

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been puzzling Cammi for more than fifteen years. The new

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web observations allow scientists to map not just what TC

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one looks like, but what it's made of, its temperature,

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its density, its chemical composition, and the motions of the

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gas throughout the nebula. The result is an extraordinarily powerful

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windown to the physics and chemistry of a dying star.

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Among the new data sets early revelations is three dimensional

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distribution of the bucky balls, showing that they're not scattered

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randomly throughout the nebula, but instead are concentrated in a

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thin spherical shell surrounding the central star. Scattering bucky balls

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in space is important hope scientists track carbon chemistry, explain

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mysterious signals, and understand how organic materials change in extreme environments.

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Kemi says that discavery of bucky balls has also changed

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traditional views about how space chemistry can offer clues about

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how life may have begun.

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We discovered bucky balls in space, and bucky balls are

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these microscopic particles made of carbon that are arranged in

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a very specific pattern of pentagons and hexagons, which gives

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them the shape of a soccer ball. Actually looks pretty

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much like a soccer ball. Bucket balls are now the

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largest known molecules in space, and we have discovered them

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using the Spitzer Space telescope. We have used the telescope

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because these bucky balls they vibrate in all sorts of

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different ways, and each time they do so, they actually

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emit specific infrared light and we can discover that signature

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of that infrared light. It's very precise fingerprint for each

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of those species. They actually have been hypothesized to exist

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in space since they were discovered in nineteen eighty five,

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and so basically I presumed that if they would exist

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in space, they would not be very abundant and might

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not be detected that easily, so that I was completely

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taken aback when I saw that spectrum where these signature

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are so clear, where they're not contaminated by any other

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spectral component. Now that we have discovered that bucket balls

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actually exist in space, there's lots of opportunities for follow

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up research. If we would find these bucket balls only

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in one object, then it would just be an odd case.

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The question is, now, how many objects do we see

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where we find these bucket balls? Are those bucket balls

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really abundant in space? Are they just in a niche

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environment and very under very peculiar conditions. Are not? And

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that's what we're working on now. That's one of our

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follow up avenues.

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That's John Cammy from Western University. And this is space

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Time still to calm. NASA forced to shut down another

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instrument on the Voyager one spacecraft to keep it operational,

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and later in the science report, palaeontologists have just identified

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a new species of seripod dinosaur. All that and more

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still to come on Space Time, NASA has been forced

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to shut down another instrument about the Voyager one spacecraft.

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In order to conserve power and keep humanities first Interstellar Explorer,

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operational engineers at NASA's Jet Proportional Laboratory in passing into

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California sinks to shut down the low energy Charged Particle experiment,

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which has been operational almost without any interruption since Voyager

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first launched way back in nineteen seventy seven, almost forty

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nine years ago. The instrument measures low energy charged particles,

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including ions, electrons, and cosmic rays, originating both from within

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our Solar System and from interstellar space beyond. It's provided

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critical data about the structure of the interstellar medium, detecting

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pressure fronts and regions of varying particle density in the

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space beyond our heliosphere, the bubble around our Solar System

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created by the Sun's atmosphere. The twin Voyager spacecraft are

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the only man made objects that are far enough from

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Earth to provide this information. Like its sister spacecraft, Voyager two,

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Voyager one relies on a radio isotope thermoelectric generator, a

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device that converts heat from the cane plutonium into electricity.

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Both probes lose around four watts of power every year,

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and after almost half a century in space power, mude

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have now grown raiser thin, requiring mission managers to conserve

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energy by shutting off heaters and instruments, or making sure

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that spacecraft don't get so called that their fuel lines freeze.

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During a routine planned roll maneuver back in February, Voyager

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one's power levels fell unexpectedly. Mission managers knew that any

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additional drop in power could trigger the spacecraft's under voltage

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full protection system. That would cause the spacecraft to start

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shutting down components on its own in order to safeguard

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the probe, requiring recovery by flight teams back on Earth.

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And that's a lengthy process which carries its own risks.

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So the Voyager management team decided to act first. Voyager

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one still has two remaining operating science instruments, one that

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listens for plasma waves, one that measures magnetic fields. They're

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still working great sending back data from a region of

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space no other man made object has ever explored. The

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choice of which instruments to shut down wasn't made in

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the head of the moment. Years ago, Voyager science engineering

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teams sat down together and agreed on the order in

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which they had shut off parts of the spacecraft while

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ensuring the mission can continue to conduct unique science. Of

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the ten identical sets of instruments that each spacecraft carried,

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seven have now been shut off so far. For Voyager one,

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the low energy charge Particle experiment was next on the list.

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The team had already shut off the same experiment on

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Voyager two back in March twenty twenty five. Because Voyager

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one is now more than twenty five billion kilometers from Earth,

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the sequence of command sent to shut down the instrument

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takes twenty three hours to reach the spacecraft, and the

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shutdown process itself will take about three hours and fifteen

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minutes to complete, then another twenty three hours to confirm

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that everything went according to plan. One part of the

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Low energy Charge Particle experiment, a small motor that spends

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the censor in the circle to scan in all directions,

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will remain on. That's because it uses little power, just

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half of what and keeping it running gives the team

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their best chance of being able to turn the instrument

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back on someday if they ever find extra power. Mission

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managers think that shutting down the Low Energy Charge Particle

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Experiment will give Voyager one about an extra year of

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breathing room, and they'll be using that time to finalize

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a more ambitious energy saving fixed for both Voyager spacecraft,

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one they're calling the Big Bang, and one, which is

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designed to extend Voyager operations. The idea is to swap

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out a group of powered devices all at once, hence

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the nickname Big Bang, turning some things off and replacing

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them with low power all turn. It is to keep

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the spacecraft woman enough to continue gathering science. Mission managers

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will implement the Big Bang on Voyager two first, which

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is a little more power to spare and is a

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little closer to Earth, making it a safer test subject.

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Those tests are planned for later this month and early June.

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If things go well, the team will attempt the same

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fix on Voyager one no sooner than July, and if

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it all works, there's even a chance that the Voyager

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one's low energy charge particles experiment would eventually be switched

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back on. Fingers crossed. The two Voyager spacecraft are the

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most distant man made objects ever sent into space, and

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the only ones to have left our Solar System. Their

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mission was a grand two of the outer Solar System.

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Both visited the gas giants Jupiter and Saturn. Voyager one

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then went on to study this tourney Moon Titan before

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turning north and heading out of the Solar System. Meanwhile,

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Voyager two went on to visit the ice giant planets

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Uranus and Neptune for turning south out of the Solar System,

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so both in our traveling through interstellar space in different directions.

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Voyager one left our Solar system back in August twenty twelve,

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and it's traveling in about sixty one thousand kilmetis p

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hour in the direction the constellation are Fayusius. In November,

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it'll become the first spacecraft to have reached a full

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one light day away from Earth I. Meanwhile, Voyager two

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is about twenty one billion kilometers from home, having crossed

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into interstellar space. November twenty eighteen. It should pass the

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brightest star in our night sky, Sirius, which is eight

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point six light years away, in about two hundred and

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ninety six thousand years. This is space time and time

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that attack. Another brief look at some of the other

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stories making us in science this week with the Science Report.

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Scienters say an implant that stimulates specific nerves in the

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tongue could be an effective treatment for obstructive sleep atnear

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in people who can't use a breathing mask. The findings

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are reported in the Annals of Internal Medicine, based on

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a small, randomized control trial using one hundred and four

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adults in the United States. The authors evaluated the safety

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and effectiveness of a specialized implant which stimulates the tongue

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in airway muscles to help people with obstructive sleep out

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in their breathe when they fall asleep. All participants were

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given the implant, but only sixty seven of the one

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hundred and four had the device turned on. After seven months,

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fifty eight point two percent of patients with the implant

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turned on saw a fifty percent or more improvement in

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their sleep APNA, compared with thirteen and a half percent

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of those who didn't have the implant turned on. Paleontologists

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have identified a new species of serapod Dinosaur. Serapods are

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herbivore dinosaurs with elephant like bodies and legs, a long

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neck and small head at one end and a long

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tail of the other, and they include the largest of

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all animals ever to live on land. The discovery reported

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in the General PeerJ was found in southern Argentina and

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it has been named Bircherichosaurus deyond Die. The fossils have been

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dated to one hundred and fifty five million years ago.

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Scientists discovered parts of its spine, including over thirty neck,

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back and tel vertebrae, several ribs, and a fragment of

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the pelvic bone. You aughs to say. The structure of

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the bones indicates that the remains belonged to an adult

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about twenty meters long. A new study shows that artificial

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intelligent chatbots can successfully judge a person's mood simply by

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looking at the expression on their faces, using famous painted

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and photograph portraits combined with binary choice questions about the

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subject's mood or feelings. Israeli researchers found that some AI chatbots,

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such as chat GPT four, Rock and Gemini, can interpret

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emersions almost indistinguishable from humans or Claude and Minstrel were

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less capable. The authors compared the five chatbots with five

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humans across five scenarios and forty three thy two hundred simulations,

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judging facial pictures based on variations in perceived competence, benevolence, integrity,

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and demographics in terms of judging mood. The findings were

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reported in the journal The Proceedings of the Raw Society.

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Found the chatbots were more consistent than people and more

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discerning see that's because people tend to collapse individual features

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together in order to look for a global good person impression,

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while the chatbots assess the different dimensions separately. The authors

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hope the finding could lead to eventual development of emotionally

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sensitive AI chatbots sometime in the future. It's been a

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big week in the world of technology, with Microsoft announcing

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plans for a twenty five billion dollar AI data center

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in Australia in order to expand in country computing and

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AI capabilities by the end of twenty twenty nine, and

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Apple boss Tim Cook has announced he plans to retire

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later this year, which will mean big changes for the

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fort trillion dollar company. With the details on both, we're

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joined by technology editor Alex Harov Royce from Tech Advice

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Start Life. Yes.

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Look, it was rumored for quite some months now that

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Kim Cook was going to be resigning a CEO and

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doing something else, might starting with an Apple, and that

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John Turners, who's the engineering hardware chief at Apple, would

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be taking over, and so it has come to pass.

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Now Kim Cook was an operations genius and he was

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trusted by Steve Jobs to be a solid pair of hands,

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and so he's been there when the launch division pros

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the AirPods, Apple Watch, I mean some of those things

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Steve Jobs did have a hand him. But of course

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once he sadly passed in twenty eleven, his genius wasn't

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able to be further extracted. And of course, you know

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there's no Steve Jobs AI as such that he would

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have had a chance to program that could have given

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more insights. And even then, the age of AI insights

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from digital phones of yourself isn't really there yet, although

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it's getting pretty good. Tim Cook is now going to

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be the executive chairman of Apple from the first of

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September twenty twenty six, which is the date that John

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Turners will take over. And being a hardware man, he

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has the experience across different parts of Apple. I mean

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he was there for every iteration of AirPods. He's been

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there for part of the team that made the iPad.

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He's been there for a long time since two thousand

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and one, so he've got a quarter a century of experience,

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and it's good to see somebody who's on the hardware

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side and understands how software and hard will work together

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be at the helm and Tim Cook as the executive

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chairman is not going anywhere. I mean, he still has

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all of those incredible relationships with world leaders and so

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he'll still be a very integral part.

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And what does this mean for AI? Because Apple's been

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really behind there.

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Apple has done more of a deal with Gemini to

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deeply integrate it. I mean it's a brain transplant sery

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has needed. And I'm sure Apple still has ambitions to

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create its own AI systems and it will. I'm sure

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it just takes time. But to catch up they need

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to work with somebody very strong and open AI, Gemini, Anthropic, Perplexity,

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these are all strong contenders. There was rumors that Apple

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was going about perplexity some years ago, and we launch

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a Perplexity computer, an app for the Mac that can

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build research, you know, create design. I mean it's a

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bit like clawed coworking that it gives you an environment

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where you can have twenty different agents doing things for

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you on your behalf, chewing up tokens at whatever cost.

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That is Apple needs to have that sort of agentic

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AI interface for macOS to let you be the leader

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that can orchestrate a bunch of agents to do things

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on your behalf, not for you to sit there and click.

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And that is the next computing interface, as well as

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of course natural languages and interface talking to the computer

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asking me to do things.

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And speaking of AI. Big announcement from Microsoft there about

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the spend twenty five billion that's with a B dollars

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on a new center in Sydney.

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Yeah, we're going to do that over the next three years.

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They've got a memoran of understanding the industry and government

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about this data center, AI infrastructure and the work in cybersecurity.

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The big problem is that Australia right now does have

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a major energy shortage. We've gone to renewables to such

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an extent that regular power prices are skyrocking through the roof.

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We used to have the cheapest energy in the world,

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Now we have some of the most expensive. That can't

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go well for the idea of setting up an AI

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harb in Australia.

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No, I mean our governments have done an absolutely terrible

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job of maintaining affordable energy. I mean it's been an

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unmitigated disaster. Prices will meant to come down, according to

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the government turner of fifth dollars. Yes, they put through

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some payments to help people, but that's artificial. It's an

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artificial handout which is costing the country millions and billions.

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They're talking about building data centers to which power needs

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to be sent. Yeah, it's an indictment on our political

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leaders that we find ourselves in this position. You know,

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it's interesting that Cook has resigned, and you know, I'm

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probably the only journalist in the Strator calling for Sachi

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Nadella to resign. I mean, he's been there for a

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long time. I mean, yes, he's grown Microsoft a lot

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as well, and he famously said he wanted Google to

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