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Mars, Moon, and Charon: A Cosmic Exploration of Our Celestial Neighbours
SpaceTime Series 29 Episode 87 Ancient impacts display the red planet’s past history A new study has shown how ancient Martian rocks exposed on the rim of Jezero Crater are preserving a 3.9-billion-year-old “weather report” from the solar system’s most dynamic era. Understanding of the Moon’s regolith for human habitation Scientists have mapped out the thickness of the Moon’s regolith, the layer of loose dust and rock that covers the entire lunar surface finding it averages about six meters in the highlands and about four meters in the maria. Strange goings on Pluto’s Charon A new study has found that the rotation of Pluto’s binary partner Charon is slowing down. The Science Report Heart disease linked to nine specific molecules produced in your gut biota. A billion more people now face at least one day of extreme heat stress compared to the 1970s. Claims consuming an avocado daily, lowers the risk of heart disease in people with obesity. Just like humans, monkeys appear to dislike AI avatars that look like them, but are just a bit wrong. Alex on Tech: APPLE IOS-27 beta publicly released.
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Stuart Gary: This is space Time Series 29, episode 87
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for broadcast on 22 July
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2026. Coming up on Space
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Ancient Impacts displaying the Red Planet's
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past history, understanding the Moon's
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regolith in preparation for future human
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missions to the lunar surface. And we
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cheque out the strange goings on on Pluto's
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binary partner Sharon out in the Kuiper Belt.
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All that and more coming up, uh, on Space
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Time. Welcome to
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Space Time with Stuart Gary.
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A new study has shown how ancient Martian
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rocks exposed on the rim of Jezero Crater are
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preserving a 3.9 billion year old weather
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report from the solar system's most dynamic
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era. NASA's Mars Perseverance Rover
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has uncovered evidence that a 75 metre
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thick stack of debris around the Jezero
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crater rim, known as the Broom Point member,
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was built up by repeated asteroid impacts.
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The sequence of layered bedrock is likely
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more than 3.9 billion years old, making
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it among the oldest terrain ever examined on
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the Red Planet. The findings, reported in the
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Journal of Geophysical Research Planets,
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offers a new window into one of the most
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tumultuous chapters in the history of the
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solar system. Mars Perseverance Rover project
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scientist ken Farley from NASA's Jet
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Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California
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says that since leaving the crater,
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Perseverance has been exploring a chapter of
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Martian time that predates the crater itself.
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Planet Earth's earliest geological history
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has been fundamentally broken up, deformed
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and arrays, partly thanks to plate tectonics.
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But because Mars lacks plate tectonics to
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recycle its crust, this ancient record
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remains intact, giving scientists a rare
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opportunity to glimpse geological time time
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period that doesn't exist on Earth. After
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ascending the western rim of Jezero crater in
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early 2025, Perseverance began
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examining Broome Point. The data has
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revealed six distinct rock types, including
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breccias, I.e. rocks built up from angular
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fragments alternating with layers of fine
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grained pulverised rock dust. The rock
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fragments within the breccias, uh, are pocked
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with glass bubble cavities, indicating they
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were once molten. The presence of tiny
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dark glassy beads within these layers offers
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an important clue about how the rocks were
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form. See, while volcanoes can produce
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similar glassy droplets, they rarely occur in
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such high abundance that points to an
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asteroid impact instead. In fact, the largest
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of these beads rivals those flung up by the
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dinosaur killing Chicxulub asteroid impact on
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Earth 66 million years ago. Because
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these distinct rock types repeat multiple
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times throughout the thick sequence of rock,
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it indicates that high energy impact events
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happened again and again across this region
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of early Mars. The different rock layers
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provide a record of different impact sizes
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and different distances. From the Jezero
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crater rim, several of the layers look like
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they may have been formed by fast ground
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hugging debris flows. On Earth, these
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powerful fluid like surges can occur when
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molten rock hits water or ice that instantly
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flashes into steam. Some of Broom Point's
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layers tilt at angles exceeding 80 degrees
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nearly vertical. And that's far too steep
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because by the impact that created Jezero
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Crater itself. Instead, scientists
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suspect a cosmic one two punch shaped its
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landscape long ago. First, a colossal
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asteroid impact created the 1900 kilometre
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wide Odysseus basin, one of the largest
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impact basins on Mars. Upending and tilting
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the once flat rock layers. Later, a
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second asteroid hit, likely forming the 45
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kilometre wide Jezero crater, uh, where
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Perseverance landed. This second impact
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fractured and uplifted the already tilted
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rocks into the dramatic formations which the
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rovers ceased today. To pin
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down exactly when these events took place,
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Perseverance mission managers collected two
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core samples dubbed Bell island and Main
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River. Uh, if a future sample return mission
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to Mars takes place, those samples could be
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brought back to Earth for dating in order to
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determine when and how often impacts were
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striking early Mars and then by extension how
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those impacts would have affected the early
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Earth, where the early impact record has been
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erased thanks to billions of years of plate
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tectonics and wind and water erosion.
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These are just the latest finding by the KSI
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six wheel Perseverance rover since it arrived
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on the Red planet back in February 2021.
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This report from NASA TV.
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Ken Farley: You know, Mars is the closest place that we
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can reach with robotic exploration that we
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think had a really good chance of having
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ancient life.
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Katie Stack Morgan: Jezero Crater is a very interesting place.
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It's a crater that once held a lake.
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Ken Farley: There are a lot of craters on, um, the
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surface of Mars that could have once hosted
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ancient lakes. But not every crater that we
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think had a LA actually preserves evidence
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that that lake was there.
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Katie Stack Morgan: It had an inflow channel and it had an
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outflow channel. That means it was filled,
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the crater was filled with water.
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Ken Farley: In Jezero, we have probably one of the most
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beautifully preserved delta deposits on
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Mars in that crater.
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Katie Stack Morgan: This is a wonderful place to live for
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microorganisms and it is also a wonderful
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place for those microorganisms to be
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preserved so that we can find them now, so
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many billions of years later.
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Ken Farley: There is no other place on Mars that has the
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unique combination of a LA setting, a
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beautifully preserved delta and the diverse
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mineralogy that we have in Jezero Crater. So
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it's truly a special landing site.
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Katie Stack Morgan: The major goal of the Perseverance mission
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is to investigate
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astrobiology on Mars and in particular to
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address the question of whether life ever
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existed on Mars. The Perseverance
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rover starts with a design that's very
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similar to Curiosity but we've added to it a
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whole new set of science instruments. And
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these science instruments were purposefully
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selected to help us in the search for
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biosignatures. Perseverance carries with
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her a uh, grand experiment in space faring
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technology, a helicopter ingenuity.
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Ken Farley: One of the major upgrades that Perseverance
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has from Curiosity is that it's able to self
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drive for a distance of up to 200
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metres per day as the rover is driving
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it's literally building the map of the road
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it's driving on on Mars.
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Katie Stack Morgan: Scientists for years have told us that to
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really unlock the secrets of Mars
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we have to bring samples from Mars back to
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Earth. Drill samples, put them in
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small tubes, we set them on the surface
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to provide a target for the second two
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missions which hopefully will get in
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development in the next several years and
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could potentially get the samples back to
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Earth by 2031.
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Perseverance is a very, very profound
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first step in both our
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understanding and of our place in
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the universe and a, ah, stepping stone
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towards human exploration on Mars.
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Stuart Gary: And in that report from NASA TV we heard from
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Mars Perseverance rover deputy project
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scientist Katie Stack Morgan from NASA jpl,
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Mars Perseverance rover project scientist Ken
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Farley also from NASA jpl, Mars
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Perseverance rover deputy project manager
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Matt Wallace, another JPL representative
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Mars Perseverance rover chief engineer Adam
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Steltzner, also from jpl and another
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JPL scientist, Mars Perseverance rover
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mobility team member Farrah Alabay.
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This is space time still to come.
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Understanding the Moon's regolith in
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preparation for future human missions to the
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lunar surface. And we cheque out the strange
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goings on on Pluto's binary partner
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Sharon out in the Kuiper Belt. All that
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and more still to come on space time.
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Scientists have mapped out the thickness of
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the Moon's regolith, a layer of loose dust
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and rock that covers the entire lunar
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surface, finding it averages around 6 metres
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in the Highlands and around 4 metres on the
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maria. The data reported in the
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Planetary Science Journal are uh, based on
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the analysis of more than 300 small and
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freshly formed impact craters across the
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lunar surface. Together with data collected
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from lunar missions dating all the way Back
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to the 1970s Apollo era,
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the Study's lead author, Andrea Razik from
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Brown University, says understanding the
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lunar surface is important for future manned
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missions to the Moon. Our moon is under
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constant bombardment from meteorites and
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other impactors, which are the main drivers
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creating the lunar regolith layer. The
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authors looked at 346 relatively fresh
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lunar craters, examining the blanket of
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debris surrounding each crater. Impacts that
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penetrate through the regular fillet or reach
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bedrock eject massive boulders onto the
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surface, which are clearly visible in um,
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satellite images. Once Razek and colleagues
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determined which craters exposed bedrock and
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which did not, they used known relationships
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between crater diameter and depth to estimate
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regular thickness regionally right across the
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lunar surface. And the findings resulted in
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revealing patterns in lunar regular
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thickness. The lunar highlands were found to
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average around 6 metres deep, while the
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lowlands where the maria, uh, are were
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thinner, around four metres. That matches
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previous hypotheses. Scientists have long
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thought that regolith is likely to be thicker
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in more ancient terrains such as the lunar
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highlands, compared to the maria, the large
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volcanic plains visible as the dark patches
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on the lunar near side. Depending on
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the objectives of a given Artemis mission,
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landing where there's more or less regolith
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could be an important factor in mission
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planning. Razak says. In a situation where
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regolith could make it easier to reach more
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competent material for foundations, depending
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on the construction method. On the other
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hand, if you're thinking about resource
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utilisation, there may be a lot of useful
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things trapped in the regolith, like water
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ice and helium 3. This is
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space time. Still to come, a new
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study finds the rotation of Pluto's binary
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partner Charon is slowing down. And later in
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the Science report, a new study has revealed
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that heart disease can be linked to nine
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specific molecules produced by your gut
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biota. Ah, all that and more. Still to come
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on, um, space time.
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A new study has found that the rotation of
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Pluto's binary partner Charon is slowing
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down. The findings reported in the journal
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Nature Communications, are, uh, based on new
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computer simulations of this distant Kuiper
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authors say Charon spins around every
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153.3 hours. That's
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much slower than its original spin cycle of
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around 14.3 hours, suggesting a gradual
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slowing down or despinning of its
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rotation. The authors say celestial bodies
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across the solar system are thought to
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undergo some degree of despinning in which
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tidal forces slow their rotational rate,
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altering their shape and temperature.
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theorised to occur on Charon Clear evidence
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has been lacking, but Charon is a promising
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candidate for such evidence as its 4 billion
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year old surface has experienced relatively
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limited resurfacing compared to other icy
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bodies. The new findings are based on a
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detailed study of variations in the
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orientations and types of tectonic features
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of mountain ranges in the Oz terra region of
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Sharon's northern hemisphere. These features
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extend over more than 200 kilometres and show
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asymmetric slopes consistent with compression
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rather than extension. The study's computer
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simulations suggest a uh, 30 to 36 kilometre
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thick ice shell cloaked Charon when it was
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formed and that the crust near the equator is
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shrunk by about 1% with the compression
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absorbed along existing fault lines and
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creating ridges as the frozen world aged.
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Look at some of the other storeys making news
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in Science this week with a Science report.
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A new study warns that having heart disease
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could be linked to nine specific molecules
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that are produced by your gut biota. A report
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in the General PLOS Medicine analysed the
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blood of several thousand people and found
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Several gut micrometabolites, I.e.
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compounds created by gastrointestinal biota,
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uh, that were associated with the risk of
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developing coronary heart disease. The
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authors then used that data to validate and
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refine the link, accounting for other factors
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that could be associated to heart disease,
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such as age, family health history and diet.
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They say the nine gut microbiota found in the
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blood could be used to determine whether a
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patient has a higher or lower chance of
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developing heart issues and it could be a
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promising avenue for the development of new
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treatments to help prevent coronary heart
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disease. A new study
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has found that more than a billion people
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around the world now face at least one day of
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extreme heat stress every year compared with
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the 1970s. The findings, reported in
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the journal Nature Climate Change, analysed a
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global data set of human heat stress from
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1950 to 2024 and found that feels
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like temperatures have risen on the warmest
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days and nights since the 1970s, with nights
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warming up faster than days. The authors
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say extreme feels like temperatures are now
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more frequent on every continent and exposure
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to at least 1 of extreme heat stress has
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risen from 16 to 22% of the global
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population. That's around a billion people.
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A new study claims consuming an avocado every
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day lowers the risk of heart disease in
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people with obesity. The findings reported
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in the Journal of Clinical Lipidology are uh,
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based on a six month study. The authors found
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that people with obesity who ate an avocado
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every day reduced their blood levels of low
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density lipoprotein particles, which
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transport low density lipoproteins, the so
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called or bad cholesterol. The authors found
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that regular avocado consumption was
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associated with an approximate 4% reduction
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in heart disease risk. The risk posed by
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low density lipoprotein particles is
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typically higher in people with abdominal
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obesity. Mind you, it's worth pointing out
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that this study was supported by the Avocado
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Nutrition Centre.
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A new study has shown that just like people,
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monkeys appear to dislike artificial
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intelligence avatars that look like them but
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uh, are just a little bit wrong, an effect
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known as the uncanny valley. A report in
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the journal plus Biology claims that at first
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monkeys responded to AI monkey avatars just
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as they would the footage of real monkeys,
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suggesting that they thought the animated
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monkeys were real. However, when they
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progressively tweaked the animation to look
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less and less realistic, they found the
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monkeys paid less attention to those with any
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slight changes compared to either the truly
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realistic ones or, or the more unrealistic
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versions. The authors say this shows that
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monkeys similar to people show an uncanny
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valley where almost realistic stimuli are,
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ah, liked less than ones that are highly
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realistic or very unrealistic.
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Apple have just released the public beta
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version of their new iOS 27 operating system
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ahead of its September launch. With the
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details, we're joined by technology editor
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Alex Zaharov Vroit from TechAdvice Live who's
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been testing the programme.
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Jonathan Nally: Apple has launched the beta, public beta
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versions of its operating system for the
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iPhone, the iPad, the Mac, the watch,
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Apple TV and uh, the big feature is
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Siri AI. The rest of it is more or less a
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cleanup of uh, the previous iOS
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26. They've managed to make it more
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efficient, make apps load faster. Now the
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image generator can generate photorealistic
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images. Before there were sort of three
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cartoony styles and it sort of almost felt
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for a lot of people that iOS 26 was one big
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long beta programme and that iOS 27 is
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the one that fixes the bugs, cleans it up,
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makes things nice and fast. I've been running
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the developer beta on an older iPhone, but as
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of the time that the beta was available for
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the public, I backed up my photos on my
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phone. I already had the rest of it backed up
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to icloud and I downloaded the update. It was
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I think 30 gigabytes or something. It was
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quite large, took a while to download, but
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I've got a pretty fast connection at home and
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you know, I put it on and more or less I've
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forgotten that I have a Beta on there. I've
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noticed the battery going flat a little bit
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faster on my phone and watch. But the big
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thing that you notice straight away is Siri
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AI. Now you need to have an iPhone 15 Pro, 16
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Pro or 17 Pro to be able to use the latest
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features of Siri AI. If you have an older
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iPhone, it would just appear to be like last
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year's version of Siri. You should still get
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access to the Siri model that gives you
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world information and better results. But
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with the newest iPhones you can actually also
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now have a much more natural human sounding
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voice and you can customise its pitch and its
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tone and expressiveness. But again that's
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only on the large devices. But you can now
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have a Siri AI app which is like the ChatGPT
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app or the Claude app. Ask all sorts of
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questions, they have a record of what it is
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you've spoken about and be able to go
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backwards and forwards and get intelligent
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answers from Siri AI, just like you would
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expect to get from Gemini, ChatGPT or
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Claude. And the ability for the phone to
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actually understand what you're asking it to
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do and then to be able to get the phone to do
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things, whether it's set appointments or look
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for information from SMS messages or emails
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or documents that you've saved about what the
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password is for a place you're staying at, or
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what the code is for a lock that you've got,
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or you know, who it is that you met a few
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weeks ago at a certain cafe. That information
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is now going to be much more easily able to
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be surfaced because Apple has improve the
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search and indexing on your phone. And in
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fact one of the complaints when you put the
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new beta version on is that it takes, it can
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take a while, uh, a day or two for it to
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fully index all the information on your
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phone. But the whole idea is that that
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information is not shared to the Internet and
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to other people. No one's using your
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information to train the model so you get
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Apple's privacy, but you also get a much more
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satisfying experience of being able to find
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things whether you're doing a quick search or
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doing a more deeper search. And so look, the
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first bidder is out. I haven't really noticed
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any show stopping bugs of any sort. I've
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forgotten that if it's there, but it just
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feel snappier and faster and Siri is actually
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now worth a day.
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Stuart Gary: That's Alex Zaharov Vroid from Tech Advice
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Stuart Gary: This is space Time Series 29, episode 87
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for broadcast on 22 July
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2026. Coming up on Space
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Ancient Impacts displaying the Red Planet's
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past history, understanding the Moon's
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regolith in preparation for future human
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missions to the lunar surface. And we
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cheque out the strange goings on on Pluto's
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binary partner Sharon out in the Kuiper Belt.
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All that and more coming up, uh, on Space
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Time. Welcome to
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Space Time with Stuart Gary.
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A new study has shown how ancient Martian
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rocks exposed on the rim of Jezero Crater are
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preserving a 3.9 billion year old weather
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report from the solar system's most dynamic
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era. NASA's Mars Perseverance Rover
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has uncovered evidence that a 75 metre
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thick stack of debris around the Jezero
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crater rim, known as the Broom Point member,
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was built up by repeated asteroid impacts.
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The sequence of layered bedrock is likely
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more than 3.9 billion years old, making
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it among the oldest terrain ever examined on
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the Red Planet. The findings, reported in the
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Journal of Geophysical Research Planets,
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offers a new window into one of the most
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tumultuous chapters in the history of the
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solar system. Mars Perseverance Rover project
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scientist ken Farley from NASA's Jet
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Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California
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says that since leaving the crater,
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Perseverance has been exploring a chapter of
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Martian time that predates the crater itself.
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Planet Earth's earliest geological history
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has been fundamentally broken up, deformed
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remains intact, giving scientists a rare
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opportunity to glimpse geological time time
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period that doesn't exist on Earth. After
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ascending the western rim of Jezero crater in
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early 2025, Perseverance began
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examining Broome Point. The data has
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revealed six distinct rock types, including
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breccias, I.e. rocks built up from angular
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fragments alternating with layers of fine
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grained pulverised rock dust. The rock
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fragments within the breccias, uh, are pocked
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with glass bubble cavities, indicating they
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were once molten. The presence of tiny
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dark glassy beads within these layers offers
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an important clue about how the rocks were
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form. See, while volcanoes can produce
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similar glassy droplets, they rarely occur in
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such high abundance that points to an
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asteroid impact instead. In fact, the largest
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of these beads rivals those flung up by the
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dinosaur killing Chicxulub asteroid impact on
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Earth 66 million years ago. Because
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these distinct rock types repeat multiple
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times throughout the thick sequence of rock,
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it indicates that high energy impact events
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happened again and again across this region
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of early Mars. The different rock layers
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provide a record of different impact sizes
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and different distances. From the Jezero
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crater rim, several of the layers look like
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they may have been formed by fast ground
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hugging debris flows. On Earth, these
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powerful fluid like surges can occur when
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molten rock hits water or ice that instantly
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flashes into steam. Some of Broom Point's
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layers tilt at angles exceeding 80 degrees
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nearly vertical. And that's far too steep
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because by the impact that created Jezero
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Crater itself. Instead, scientists
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suspect a cosmic one two punch shaped its
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landscape long ago. First, a colossal
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asteroid impact created the 1900 kilometre
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wide Odysseus basin, one of the largest
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impact basins on Mars. Upending and tilting
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the once flat rock layers. Later, a
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second asteroid hit, likely forming the 45
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kilometre wide Jezero crater, uh, where
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Perseverance landed. This second impact
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fractured and uplifted the already tilted
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rocks into the dramatic formations which the
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rovers ceased today. To pin
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down exactly when these events took place,
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Perseverance mission managers collected two
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core samples dubbed Bell island and Main
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River. Uh, if a future sample return mission
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to Mars takes place, those samples could be
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brought back to Earth for dating in order to
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determine when and how often impacts were
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striking early Mars and then by extension how
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those impacts would have affected the early
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Earth, where the early impact record has been
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erased thanks to billions of years of plate
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tectonics and wind and water erosion.
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six wheel Perseverance rover since it arrived
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on the Red planet back in February 2021.
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This report from NASA TV.
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Ken Farley: You know, Mars is the closest place that we
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can reach with robotic exploration that we
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think had a really good chance of having
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ancient life.
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Katie Stack Morgan: Jezero Crater is a very interesting place.
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Ken Farley: There are a lot of craters on, um, the
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surface of Mars that could have once hosted
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ancient lakes. But not every crater that we
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think had a LA actually preserves evidence
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that that lake was there.
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Katie Stack Morgan: It had an inflow channel and it had an
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outflow channel. That means it was filled,
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the crater was filled with water.
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Ken Farley: In Jezero, we have probably one of the most
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beautifully preserved delta deposits on
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Mars in that crater.
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Katie Stack Morgan: This is a wonderful place to live for
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microorganisms and it is also a wonderful
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place for those microorganisms to be
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preserved so that we can find them now, so
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many billions of years later.
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Ken Farley: There is no other place on Mars that has the
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unique combination of a LA setting, a
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beautifully preserved delta and the diverse
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mineralogy that we have in Jezero Crater. So
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it's truly a special landing site.
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Katie Stack Morgan: The major goal of the Perseverance mission
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is to investigate
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astrobiology on Mars and in particular to
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address the question of whether life ever
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existed on Mars. The Perseverance
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rover starts with a design that's very
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similar to Curiosity but we've added to it a
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whole new set of science instruments. And
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these science instruments were purposefully
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selected to help us in the search for
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biosignatures. Perseverance carries with
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her a uh, grand experiment in space faring
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technology, a helicopter ingenuity.
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Ken Farley: One of the major upgrades that Perseverance
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has from Curiosity is that it's able to self
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drive for a distance of up to 200
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metres per day as the rover is driving
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it's literally building the map of the road
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it's driving on on Mars.
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Katie Stack Morgan: Scientists for years have told us that to
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really unlock the secrets of Mars
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we have to bring samples from Mars back to
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Earth. Drill samples, put them in
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small tubes, we set them on the surface
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to provide a target for the second two
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missions which hopefully will get in
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development in the next several years and
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could potentially get the samples back to
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Earth by 2031.
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Perseverance is a very, very profound
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first step in both our
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understanding and of our place in
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the universe and a, ah, stepping stone
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towards human exploration on Mars.
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Stuart Gary: And in that report from NASA TV we heard from
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Mars Perseverance rover deputy project
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scientist Katie Stack Morgan from NASA jpl,
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Mars Perseverance rover project scientist Ken
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Farley also from NASA jpl, Mars
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Perseverance rover deputy project manager
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Matt Wallace, another JPL representative
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Mars Perseverance rover chief engineer Adam
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Steltzner, also from jpl and another
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JPL scientist, Mars Perseverance rover
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mobility team member Farrah Alabay.
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This is space time still to come.
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Understanding the Moon's regolith in
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preparation for future human missions to the
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lunar surface. And we cheque out the strange
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goings on on Pluto's binary partner
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Sharon out in the Kuiper Belt. All that
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and more still to come on space time.
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the Moon's regolith, a layer of loose dust
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and rock that covers the entire lunar
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surface, finding it averages around 6 metres
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in the Highlands and around 4 metres on the
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maria. The data reported in the
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Planetary Science Journal are uh, based on
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the analysis of more than 300 small and
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freshly formed impact craters across the
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lunar surface. Together with data collected
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from lunar missions dating all the way Back
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to the 1970s Apollo era,
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the Study's lead author, Andrea Razik from
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Brown University, says understanding the
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lunar surface is important for future manned
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missions to the Moon. Our moon is under
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constant bombardment from meteorites and
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other impactors, which are the main drivers
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creating the lunar regolith layer. The
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authors looked at 346 relatively fresh
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lunar craters, examining the blanket of
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debris surrounding each crater. Impacts that
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penetrate through the regular fillet or reach
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bedrock eject massive boulders onto the
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surface, which are clearly visible in um,
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satellite images. Once Razek and colleagues
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determined which craters exposed bedrock and
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which did not, they used known relationships
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between crater diameter and depth to estimate
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regular thickness regionally right across the
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lunar surface. And the findings resulted in
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revealing patterns in lunar regular
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thickness. The lunar highlands were found to
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average around 6 metres deep, while the
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lowlands where the maria, uh, are were
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thinner, around four metres. That matches
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previous hypotheses. Scientists have long
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thought that regolith is likely to be thicker
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in more ancient terrains such as the lunar
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highlands, compared to the maria, the large
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volcanic plains visible as the dark patches
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on the lunar near side. Depending on
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the objectives of a given Artemis mission,
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landing where there's more or less regolith
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could be an important factor in mission
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planning. Razak says. In a situation where
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regolith could make it easier to reach more
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competent material for foundations, depending
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on the construction method. On the other
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utilisation, there may be a lot of useful
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things trapped in the regolith, like water
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ice and helium 3. This is
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space time. Still to come, a new
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study finds the rotation of Pluto's binary
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partner Charon is slowing down. And later in
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the Science report, a new study has revealed
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that heart disease can be linked to nine
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specific molecules produced by your gut
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biota. Ah, all that and more. Still to come
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on, um, space time.
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Pluto's binary partner Charon is slowing
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down. The findings reported in the journal
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Nature Communications, are, uh, based on new
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computer simulations of this distant Kuiper
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Belt world beyond Neptune. The study's
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authors say Charon spins around every
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153.3 hours. That's
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much slower than its original spin cycle of
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around 14.3 hours, suggesting a gradual
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slowing down or despinning of its
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rotation. The authors say celestial bodies
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across the solar system are thought to
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undergo some degree of despinning in which
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tidal forces slow their rotational rate,
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altering their shape and temperature.
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theorised to occur on Charon Clear evidence
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has been lacking, but Charon is a promising
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candidate for such evidence as its 4 billion
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year old surface has experienced relatively
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limited resurfacing compared to other icy
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bodies. The new findings are based on a
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detailed study of variations in the
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orientations and types of tectonic features
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of mountain ranges in the Oz terra region of
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Sharon's northern hemisphere. These features
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extend over more than 200 kilometres and show
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asymmetric slopes consistent with compression
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rather than extension. The study's computer
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thick ice shell cloaked Charon when it was
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absorbed along existing fault lines and
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in Science this week with a Science report.
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A new study warns that having heart disease
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could be linked to nine specific molecules
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that are produced by your gut biota. A report
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in the General PLOS Medicine analysed the
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blood of several thousand people and found
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compounds created by gastrointestinal biota,
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uh, that were associated with the risk of
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developing coronary heart disease. The
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authors then used that data to validate and
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refine the link, accounting for other factors
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that could be associated to heart disease,
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such as age, family health history and diet.
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blood could be used to determine whether a
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patient has a higher or lower chance of
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developing heart issues and it could be a
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promising avenue for the development of new
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treatments to help prevent coronary heart
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disease. A new study
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has found that more than a billion people
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around the world now face at least one day of
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extreme heat stress every year compared with
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the 1970s. The findings, reported in
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the journal Nature Climate Change, analysed a
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global data set of human heat stress from
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1950 to 2024 and found that feels
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like temperatures have risen on the warmest
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days and nights since the 1970s, with nights
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warming up faster than days. The authors
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say extreme feels like temperatures are now
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more frequent on every continent and exposure
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to at least 1 of extreme heat stress has
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risen from 16 to 22% of the global
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population. That's around a billion people.
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A new study claims consuming an avocado every
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day lowers the risk of heart disease in
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people with obesity. The findings reported
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in the Journal of Clinical Lipidology are uh,
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based on a six month study. The authors found
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that people with obesity who ate an avocado
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every day reduced their blood levels of low
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density lipoprotein particles, which
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transport low density lipoproteins, the so
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called or bad cholesterol. The authors found
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that regular avocado consumption was
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associated with an approximate 4% reduction
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in heart disease risk. The risk posed by
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low density lipoprotein particles is
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typically higher in people with abdominal
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obesity. Mind you, it's worth pointing out
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that this study was supported by the Avocado
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Nutrition Centre.
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A new study has shown that just like people,
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monkeys appear to dislike artificial
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intelligence avatars that look like them but
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uh, are just a little bit wrong, an effect
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known as the uncanny valley. A report in
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the journal plus Biology claims that at first
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monkeys responded to AI monkey avatars just
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as they would the footage of real monkeys,
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suggesting that they thought the animated
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monkeys were real. However, when they
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progressively tweaked the animation to look
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less and less realistic, they found the
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monkeys paid less attention to those with any
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slight changes compared to either the truly
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realistic ones or, or the more unrealistic
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versions. The authors say this shows that
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monkeys similar to people show an uncanny
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valley where almost realistic stimuli are,
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ah, liked less than ones that are highly
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realistic or very unrealistic.
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Apple have just released the public beta
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version of their new iOS 27 operating system
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ahead of its September launch. With the
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details, we're joined by technology editor
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Alex Zaharov Vroit from TechAdvice Live who's
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been testing the programme.
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Jonathan Nally: Apple has launched the beta, public beta
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versions of its operating system for the
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iPhone, the iPad, the Mac, the watch,
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Apple TV and uh, the big feature is
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Siri AI. The rest of it is more or less a
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cleanup of uh, the previous iOS
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26. They've managed to make it more
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efficient, make apps load faster. Now the
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image generator can generate photorealistic
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images. Before there were sort of three
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cartoony styles and it sort of almost felt
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for a lot of people that iOS 26 was one big
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long beta programme and that iOS 27 is
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the one that fixes the bugs, cleans it up,
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makes things nice and fast. I've been running
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the developer beta on an older iPhone, but as
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of the time that the beta was available for
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the public, I backed up my photos on my
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phone. I already had the rest of it backed up
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to icloud and I downloaded the update. It was
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I think 30 gigabytes or something. It was
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quite large, took a while to download, but
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I've got a pretty fast connection at home and
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you know, I put it on and more or less I've
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forgotten that I have a Beta on there. I've
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noticed the battery going flat a little bit
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faster on my phone and watch. But the big
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thing that you notice straight away is Siri
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AI. Now you need to have an iPhone 15 Pro, 16
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Pro or 17 Pro to be able to use the latest
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features of Siri AI. If you have an older
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iPhone, it would just appear to be like last
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year's version of Siri. You should still get
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access to the Siri model that gives you
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world information and better results. But
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with the newest iPhones you can actually also
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now have a much more natural human sounding
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voice and you can customise its pitch and its
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tone and expressiveness. But again that's
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only on the large devices. But you can now
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have a Siri AI app which is like the ChatGPT
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app or the Claude app. Ask all sorts of
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questions, they have a record of what it is
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you've spoken about and be able to go
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backwards and forwards and get intelligent
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answers from Siri AI, just like you would
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expect to get from Gemini, ChatGPT or
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Claude. And the ability for the phone to
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actually understand what you're asking it to
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do and then to be able to get the phone to do
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things, whether it's set appointments or look
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for information from SMS messages or emails
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or documents that you've saved about what the
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password is for a place you're staying at, or
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what the code is for a lock that you've got,
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or you know, who it is that you met a few
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weeks ago at a certain cafe. That information
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is now going to be much more easily able to
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be surfaced because Apple has improve the
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search and indexing on your phone. And in
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fact one of the complaints when you put the
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new beta version on is that it takes, it can
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take a while, uh, a day or two for it to
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fully index all the information on your
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phone. But the whole idea is that that
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information is not shared to the Internet and
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to other people. No one's using your
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information to train the model so you get
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Apple's privacy, but you also get a much more
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satisfying experience of being able to find
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things whether you're doing a quick search or
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doing a more deeper search. And so look, the
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first bidder is out. I haven't really noticed
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any show stopping bugs of any sort. I've
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forgotten that if it's there, but it just
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feel snappier and faster and Siri is actually
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now worth a day.
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Stuart Gary: That's Alex Zaharov Vroid from Tech Advice
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