June 23, 2026

Lunar Mantle Mysteries: Unveiling the South Pole Aiken Basin, Mars' Garnet Evolution

Lunar Mantle Mysteries: Unveiling the South Pole Aiken Basin, Mars' Garnet Evolution
SpaceTime Series 29 Episode 75 The Moon’s oldest and largest impact crater A new study suggests the Moon’s oldest and largest impact crater – the two and a half thousand kilometre wide South Pole-Aitken basin -- could have excavated material so deep it included parts of the lunar mantle. New clues to how the red planet Mars evolved Scientists have discovered the mineral garnet in a Martian meteorite which may reveal how the red planet evolved billions of years ago. Mission to boost Swift space telescope’s orbit NASA is about to launch a new mission designed to extend the life of a half billion dollar spacecraft by boosting it into a higher orbit. The Science Report New report shows ocean temperatures reached a new record high in 2025. The brain changes within a month of a first psychedelic experience from magic mushrooms. Discovery that humans were using fire between 1.07 and 1.79 million years ago. Claims artificial intelligence becomes more moral the larger and more complex it gets. Alex on Tech: Lithium Titanate batteries.

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Stuart Gary: This is space Time Series 29, Episode

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75 for broadcast on 24

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June 2026. Coming up on

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Space, the moon's oldest and largest

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impact crater. Uh, new clues about how the

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red planet Mars evolved and NASA's new

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mission to boost the Swift spacecraft back

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into a higher orbit. All that and more

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coming up on, uh, Space Time.

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Stuart Gary: Welcome to Space Time with Stuart

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Stuart Gary: A new study suggests that the moon's oldest

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and largest impact crater, the two and a half

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thousand kilometre wide south pole Aiken

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Basin, could have excavated material so deep

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it included parts of the lunar mantle. The

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findings, reported in the journal Science

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Advances and Geophysical Research Planets,

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provides fresh insights into the early

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evolution evolution of our solar system and

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what the Artemis astronauts will encounter

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when they land at the lunar south pole in

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2028. One of the

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study's authors, William Bottke from the

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Southwest Research Institute in Boulder,

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Colorado, says the collision struck the lunar

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surface with so much force that it may have

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excavated material from deep inside the moon,

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including portions of the lunar mantle. Using

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advanced models and simulations, Bottke and

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colleagues recreated the crater forming

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impact and identified new evidence about the

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direction and composition of that struck the

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moon. Their work shows the best fit was an

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impactor approaching from the north and

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travelling south, hitting at a low angle and

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producing the elongated tapered shape of the

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basin. The modelling suggests the

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impactor wasn't a simple uniform body, but a

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differentiated object with an eyeing course

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surrounded by rock. In other words, it could

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have been a small protoplanet or a large

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differentiated asteroid. As the

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impactor slammed into the moon at a low

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angle, it excavated a deep asymmetric cavity

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and melted the rock in the central basin. The

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collision lofted large amounts of material

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from both the lunar crust and mantle, which

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later settled back onto the basin floor.

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The authors also analysed how this ejector

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would have been distributed beneath and

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around the basin. They compared high

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resolution gravity data uh with models that

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included both crustal and mantle material,

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determining that the basin likely contained

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substantial amounts of mantle derived rock

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within its interior and mixed into the

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ejector blanket surrounding the crater. A few

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subsequent impacts within the basin appear to

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have later excavated these underlying matter

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deposits, bringing some of this material to

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the surface where it is lying there, ready to

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be sampled by robotic rovers or people on

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future missions. Earlier theories

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had suggested that the deepest ejector might

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be confined to parts of the basin far uh from

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the proposed south pole exploration zones.

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However, these new simulations and gravity

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modelling indicates that key deposits of

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mantle bearing ejecta may well blanket

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portions of the lunar south pole right where

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the astronauts will land. The research is

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fascinating because it's telling mission

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managers exactly where to look for samples

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which could answer some of our biggest

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questions about the Moon's origin and

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evolution, and consequently, about the

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evolution of the inner solar system.

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This is space time. Still to

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come, new clues about how the Red Planet Mars

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evolved, and NASA's new mission to boost the

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Swift Space Telescope up into a higher orbit.

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All that and more still to come on, uh, space

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Scientists have discovered the mineral garnet

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in the Martian meteorite. And these findings

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may help reveal how the Red Planet evolved

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billions of years ago. You see, garnet is

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a completely new type of rock from the Red

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Planet, and it offers a rare glimpse into the

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ancient Martian past. The findings,

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reported in the journal Geochemical

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Perspectives Letters, could help researchers

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piece together the planet's 4.5 billion year

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geological history. It offers a new time

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capsule, reserving clues about the

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temperatures, pressures, and processes that

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shaped the Red Planet billions of years ago.

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Garnet is a dark red gem. It was

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popular in ancient Egypt, with the Romans and

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with the Victorian elite. It's also the

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January birthstone, and it's a

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cornerstone mineral in geology, providing a

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powerful record of the tectonic forces, ore

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forming processes, and fluid rock

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interactions that shape the Earth's crust and

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mantle. One of the study's authors, James

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Darling from the University of Portsmouth,

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says the findings add striking new dimensions

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to science's understanding of the geology of

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Mars, and they open up a new window into its

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evolution. Evolution. Garnet bearing rock

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could provide clues about how Mars has

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changed throughout its history and provide

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new insights into the ancient environments

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that could have formed the garnet and related

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minerals. The garnet was discovered

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during an analysis of a fragment of a Martian

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meteorite known as

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NWA8171.

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The authors originally thought the sample was

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simply common pyroxene, But a more detailed

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examination using electron microscopy and

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microanalysis discovered it to be garnet, a

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mineral that had not been identified en masse

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before. Garnet is a classic

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example of a mineral often found in

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metamorphic rocks on Earth. The process of

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metamorphism transforms igneous or

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sedimentary rocks into a new form through

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exposure to extreme heat, high pressure, or

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hot fluids. On Mars, the heat and

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pressure needed to produce scarlet through

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metamorphism could have come from the impact

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of a meteor hitting the surface, or from

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magma rising up into the crust, or from both.

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Uh, however, the authors admit they can't

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rule out that the garnet bearing rock may

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well have been delivered to Mars and

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incorporated into its surface through a

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meteor impact. So the authors now need to

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study the garnet's, uh, isotopic signatures

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in order to verify whether it was originally

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produced on Mars or whether it came to Mars

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and consequently came to Earth from another

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body. Measuring oxygen isotopes

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from the Garnet bearing rock itself would

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help to confirm its origins. And

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needless to say, we'll keep you informed.

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This is space time. Still to come.

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NASA's new mission to try and save the Swift

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space Telescope by boosting it into a higher

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orbit. And later in the science report,

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discovery that humans were already using fire

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between 1.07 and

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1.79 million years ago.

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All that and more still to come on uh, space

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Stuart Gary: Foreign.

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Stuart Gary: NASA's about to launch a new mission designed

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to extend the life of a half billion dollar

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spacecraft by boosting it into a higher

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orbit. Catalyst Space will use its Link

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rescue craft to boost the orbit of NASA's

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Swift gamma ray Space Telescope.

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Swift was launched back in 2004 to study

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changes in the high energy universe. Things

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like gamma ray bursts, which are the powerful

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explosions in the cosmos see when a

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rapid sudden event takes place in the sky.

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Swift acts as an early warning system,

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providing crucial information that allows

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other observatories to follow up and learn

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more about the event and consequently how the

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universe works. But after 22

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years, Swift's 600 kilometre high orbit has

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begun to decay rapidly because of increased

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solar activity. NASA initially expected

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it to stay in orbit until the early2030s,

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but the latest peak in the Sun's 11 year

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solar cycle was far stronger than expected.

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Increased solar activity heats and swells

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Earth's atmosphere and that creates extra

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atmospheric drag on orbiting spacecraft.

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spacecraft orbits to decay, ultimately

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burning up in the atmosphere unless they're

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boosted back up into higher orbits. For

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Swift, that wasn't possible and mission

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managers realised the telescope was doomed in

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a matter of months. It's now just 370

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kilometres in altitude and will soon suffer

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enough orbital decay to re enter the

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atmosphere and begin burning up.

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But rather than allowing the mission to end,

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NASA decided to take this opportunity to test

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a new spacecraft specifically designed to

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attach to Swift and boost it back up to its

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original orbit. In September 2025,

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NASA awarded a contract to Catalyst Space to

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mount a robotic servicing mission to Swift.

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In less than a year, the mission will use a

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400 kilogramme refrigerator sized robotic

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rescue craft called LINK to rendezvous with

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Swift and boost it back up into a higher

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altitude. Link will be Launched

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aboard a Northrop Grumman Pegasus XL rocket,

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the Pegasus will be taken up to an altitude

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of about 45,000ft, attached to the underbelly

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of the converted Lockheed L1011 airliner

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Stargazer, which will take off from a Runway

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in the Marshall Islands. Once the

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Pegasus will be released, ignite its own

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engine and climb into space. Once in

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orbit, Pegasus will deploy the Link rescue

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craft, which will then attempt to rendezvous

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with Swift, taking images of the spacecraft

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from different angles so mission managers can

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inspect the ageing probe for damage from

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debris and micrometeorites and work out how

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they're going to capture it. Link will then

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attach to Swift using its three robotic arms,

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and gradually, over more than six weeks,

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it'll use its thrusters to slowly boost the

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observatory back up into its 600 kilometres

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high orbit. It's a mission that might not

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only save the spacecraft, but demonstrate the

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possibility of extending the lives of other

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spacecraft through boosting, refuelling or

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repair work while in orbit. This report

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Stuart Gary: NASA is working with an American startup to

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attempt something no one has ever achieved

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Stuart Gary: This is just a really different kind of

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Its orbit has been lowering. If we

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atmosphere and so there's nothing to lose.

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Just a few months ago, this spacecraft was a

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conceptual drawing.

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Stuart Gary: Catalyst's robotic spacecraft will approach

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the observatory, carefully capture it

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and propel it to nearly its original orbit.

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Stuart Gary: Six months ago, this was a PowerPoint. In

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under a year, we're going from identification

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of a problem, proposal, contract

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award to launch.

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Stuart Gary: Saving Swift isn't about just preserving one

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mission. It's about moving forward in a

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future where we can give spacecraft a second

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Stuart Gary: And in that report from NASA tv, we heard

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from NASA Swift scientists Brad Senko and

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Regina Caputo, Catalyst CEO Gunhee

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Lee and Catalyst Link lead scientist Kerryn

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Wilson. This space, time.

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Um, now for another brief look at some of the

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other storeys making news in science this

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week with the Science report. The World

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Meteorological Organisation has released its

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latest State of the Climate in Asia report,

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showing that ocean surface temperatures have

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now reached a new record. The study found

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the seas of Asia had warmed faster than the

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global average, with a mean surface

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temperature of around 0.96 degrees

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Celsius above the 1991-2020

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average, with China, Korea and Japan all

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recording their hottest summers on record.

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Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Vietnam experienced

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devastating floods and monsoons and tropical

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cyclone related rainfall, with over 1200

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deaths from flooding in Pakistan and Vietnam

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alone. A new

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study has found that people tend to undergo

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changes in their brains within a month after

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their first psychedelic experience from magic

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mushrooms. The findings, reported in the

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journal Nature Communications, involved 28

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healthy people who had never taken magic

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mushrooms before and scanned their brains

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within an hour of a single high dose of

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Psilocyphon and again a month later.

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The authors found that after a month, modest

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brain changes were visible, relating to

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cognitive flexibility, psychological insight

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and well being.

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Archaeologists have uncovered evidence that

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early humans were already using fire in South

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Africa's wonder work caves between

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1.07 and 1.79

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million years ago. The previous discovery

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of early fire in the Kalahari Desert cave

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system had been dated to around a million

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years ago. The new findings, reported in the

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journal plos one, extend the chronology of

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one of the earliest known records of fire use

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associated with hominids. Scientists from

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the Hebrew University of Jerusalem found

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signs of repeated fire use deep inside the

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cave, far beyond the reach of natural

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wildfires, suggesting that early humans were

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bringing naturally occurring fire into the

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cave and then maintaining it there long

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before they learned how to create it for

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themselves. To reach their conclusions, the

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authors used a new method based on light

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emitting properties of burnt bones.

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When illuminated at specific wavelengths of

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light, bones that have been exposed to

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intense heat emit a distinctive glow and that

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can be recorded by instruments.

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Well, we may well be heading for a Skynet

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future thanks to artificial intelligence, but

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it looks like there's a glimmer of hope on

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the horizon. A new study claims AI

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becomes more aligned with human moral

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reasoning, the larger and more complex it

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gets. The findings reported in the Journal of

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the Royal Society Open Science assessed 75

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large language models, including ChatGPT,

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Claude, and Deep SEQ, to see if they'd agree

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with human preferences when presented with

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life or death dilemmas. They found that the

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number of parameters a model was made up of

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affected how likely it was to agree with

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humans. The authors say the more complex the

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models were, more closely they aligned with

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human morality. But the improvements were

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gradual as the complexity increased,

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the dangers of lithium ion batteries may soon

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be a thing of the past as the next big

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development in battery technology called

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lithium titanate begins to make an inroad

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into the consumer market. With the details,

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we're joined by technology editor Alex

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Zaharov Roy from TechAdvice Life.

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Alex Zaharov-Reutt: Now, these batteries actually have been in

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use by NASA and the military for some

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decades, but they weren't commercial, uh, or

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commercially available because the technology

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just hadn't advanced to a degree that you

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could replicate as easily as lithium ion.

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Now, lithium M ion has a problem in that if

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you put a nail through the battery in the

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back of your phone, it'll have a runaway

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thermal reaction where you'll have this

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outgassing of very toxic gases. And we hear

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about people with scooters that they charge

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them inside their houses, they leave them on

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the charger all night. They might maybe have

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third party batteries or the batteries

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themselves have been damaged, because on

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scooters, you know, you're banging on kerbs

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and it's just a rough sort of environment for

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the battery and they go off. And if people

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have died, their houses have been burnt down.

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mobile batteries, especially if it's very

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cold, they don't charge. I mean, we heard

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about cars that don't charge in the very cold

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American winters. And lithium titanite has a

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few serious advantages. One, it operates in

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those minus 20, minus 30 degrees Celsius

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temperatures, which are very bad for lithium

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ion batteries. And they operate at, at high

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temperatures as well. They recharge to full

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in approximately 20 minutes. If you damage

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them with a nail or if they get broken in an

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aeroplane, uh, seat, they will not have the

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runaway thermal reaction. And then on top of

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all of that, a normal mobile phone Battery

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lasts about 1500 cycles before it starts

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getting to about 80% of its life and, you

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know, discharges very quickly. We've all

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experienced a phone that is not holding

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anywhere near the charge you got when it was

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new. And of course you could buy a new or

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third party battery. But imagine if you could

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have a battery that lasted 10 or even 20

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years before you needed to replace it.

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Lithium titanate batteries have a red charge

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cycle not of 1500, but of 20,000 cycles or

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more. There are some robot prototypes from 30

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years ago that are still working to this day

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because they had lithium titanate batteries.

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So Toshiba is one of the companies that is

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commercialising this, going to be using it in

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power tools that use rechargeable batteries.

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We'll see these things in cars and in

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scooters and the company behind it have an

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operating system that can interface with any

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sort of battery and produce the correct sort

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of voltage for any sort of application. So

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it's kind of this universal translator

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between different sorts of batteries and

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different sorts of electronics. In the past,

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you had to match them very carefully and

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closely together. But with this operating

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system system merged with this lithium, uh,

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titanate batteries, it's going to be the

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revolution we've been waiting for in battery

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technology, but it'll still take a few years

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before it's everywhere. But it's a great

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example of that famous saying from William

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Gibson, the guy who wrote Neuromancer. He

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said the future has already been invented, it

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just hasn't been widely distributed yet.

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Well, lithium titanates, time is on the very

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cusp of being widely distributed and the

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battery problems of the past 10 years are

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going to fade away into non existent. They'll

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be, uh, distant memories.

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