Oct. 20, 2023

Exploring the Outer Edges: Unveiling the Ninth Planet or Unraveling Gravity's Secrets? | S26E126

Exploring the Outer Edges: Unveiling the Ninth Planet or Unraveling Gravity's Secrets? | S26E126

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The Space News Podcast SpaceTime Series 26 Episode 126 *Plot thickens in hunt for ninth planet A pair of theoretical physicists are reporting that the same observations inspiring the hunt for a ninth planet at the outer edge of the solar system might instead be evidence of a modified law of gravity originally developed to understand the rotation of galaxies. *New clues on planetary formation Astronomers have discovered the youngest hot Jupiter ever seen. New insights into the atmosphere and star of an exoplanet Astronomers have failed to find any signs of an atmosphere around the Earth like exoplanet TRAPPIST-1b *The Science Report Koala populations decimated by bushfires in recent years. Study shows 40% of amphibian species around the world are currently under threat. Scientists have now discovered around 125 mammal species that glow under Ultra Violet light. Skeptics guide to riding the Sasquatch express Listen to SpaceTime on your favorite podcast app with our universal listen link: https://spacetimewithstuartgary.com/listen and access show links via https://linktr.ee/biteszHQ Additionally, listeners can support the podcast and gain access to bonus content by becoming a SpaceTime crew member through www.bitesz.supercast.com or through premium versions on Spotify and Apple Podcasts. Details on our website at https://spacetimewithstuartgary.com For more SpaceTime and show links: https://linktr.ee/biteszHQ If you love this podcast, please get someone else to listen to. Thank you…

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This is Spacetime Series twenty six,
Episode one hundred and twenty seven, for

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broadcast on the twentieth of October twenty
twenty three. Coming up on space Time,

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the plot thickens and the Hunt Planet
nine. You clues on planetary formation

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and fresh insights into the atmosphere and
star of an exoplanet. All that and

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more coming up on space Time Welcome
to space Time with Stuart Gary. A

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pair of theoretical physicists are reporting that
the same observations inspiring the hunt for a

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ninth planet the outer edge of our
Solar System might instead be evidence of a

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modified law of gravity originally developed to
understand the rotation of galaxies. Reporting in

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the Astronomical Journal Researches, harsh Matter
from Case Western Reserve University and Catherine Brown

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from Hamilton College made the assertion after
studying the effect the Milky Way galaxy would

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have on objects in the outer Solar
System. That's if the laws of gravity

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were governed by a theory known as
modified new turn in dynamics or MOOND.

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MOOND proposes that to isaa, Newton's
famous laws of gravity are valid only up

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to a point. That is,
when the gravitational acceleration predicted by Newton's law

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becomes small enough, Moond allows for
a different gravitational behavior to take over.

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The observational success of Mind on galactic
scales is why more and more scientists are

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considering it an alternative to dark matter, the term physicists used to describe that

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mysterious hypothesized form of matter which is
invisible but has gravitational effects on surrounding regular

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matter. It's thought to be what
stops its galaxies flinging apart as they rotate,

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and provides an added degree of magnification
during gravitational lensing events. Martha says

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Mon's really good at explaining gravitational observations, but it wasn't expected to have any

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noticeable effects on the Outer Solar System. Martha and Brown have studied Mon's effects

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on galactic dynamics before, but they
became interested in Mon's more local effects after

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astronomers announced in twenty sixteen that a
handful of objects in the Outer Solar System

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showed orbital anomalies that could be explained
by a ninth planet. The hunt for

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that missing ninth planet's been going on
ever since, but did not avail,

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at least not yet. Meanwhile,
Brown realized that Mon's predictions might be at

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odds with the observations that had motivated
the search for planet nine. She says

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they wanted to see whether or not
the data that supported the planet nine hypothesis

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would effectively rule out Mond. Instead, they found that Mond predicted precisely the

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clustering that astronomers had observed. Mather
and Brown argue that over millions of years,

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the orbits of some of the objects
in the out of Solar System would

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be dragged into alignment with the galaxy's
own gravitational field. Mathis says that when

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they plotted the orbits of the objects
from the planet nine data set against the

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galaxy's own gravitational field, the alignment
was striking. However, the author's caution

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the current data set is small,
and that any number of other possibilities might

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prove to be correct. For example, it's been argued that the orbital peculiarities

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are all the result of observational bias. Brown says, regardless of the outcome,

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the new work highlights the potential of
the out of Solar System. The

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servers the laboratory for testing gravity and
studying some fundamental problems in physics this space

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time still to come. Astronomers have
discovered the youngest hot Jupiter ever seen,

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and new insights into the atmosphere and
star of an exoplanet. All that and

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more still to come on space time. Okay, let's take a short break

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Spacetime with Stuart Gary. Astronomers have discovered

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the youngest hot jupiter ever seen.
Hot jupiters are giant gas exo planets in

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tight orbits around their stars. They're
thought to have been originally formed further out

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in their star systems, but then
migrated inwards to their current orbital positions.

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However, a study of a hot
jupiter known as ci Toower B is raising

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more questions than answers about its origin. A reporting the Estrophysical Journal Letters suggest

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that CI Tower be as a close
nine earth day orbit around its host star

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Ci Toower, which is located some
four hundred and fifty light years from Earth

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in the constellation Taurus the Bull.
The trouble is the star is only around

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two million years old, and that's
far too young to have such a mature

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planet orbiting so closely for decades.
Most astronomers believe that giant planets like the

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gas giants Jupiter and Satin in our
Solar System would have formed further out from

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the host stars over periods of around
ten million years or so, but the

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discovery of dozens of hot jupiters out
there have led to new theoretical models that

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might describe how such planets could form. Now a four year nearing for its

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spectroscopic analysis of the ci tower system
has provided some surprises. Astronomers have been

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studying ci towbe's brightness, mass,
and atmospheric carbon monoxide levels to answer questions

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about how our planets so large could
around a star so young. One of

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the studies authors at least a proto
from the Lower Observatory is importantly, they

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were able to undertake spectroscopic observations of
the planet itself, the first time this

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has been done for such a close
sin planet around such a young star.

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The most valuable way to learn how
planets form is the study planets like COITOWB

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that are either still forming or of
only just completed forming. Ci Toowerb's age

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made it a perfect candidate for observation
with the Emerson Grating Infrared Spectrograph. It's

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a unique high resolution instrument that was
used during observations of CIOWERB from both the

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Mcdonnal observatories two point seven meter telescope
and the Lower Observatory's four point three meter

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telescope. Because each atomic element and
molecule of a star emits light at a

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specific set of wavelengths, Astronomers can
look for specific signatures or spectral lines to

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see if an element is present in
a distant star or planet. Spectral lions

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can also reveal the temperature and density
of a star and how fast it's moving.

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Preto says the research team used the
spectral lines from carbon monoxide to distinguish

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the light emitted by the planet from
the light being emitted by the nearby star,

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but many the spectral lines that are
featured in the planet are also featured

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in the star. If both the
planet and the star were stationary, then

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the spectral lions would blend together,
making them hard to distinguish from one another,

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meaning scientists wouldn't be able to tell
what came from the star and what

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came from the planet. But because
the planet's orbiting the star rapidly, its

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lines are shifting back and forth dramatically, allowing astronomers to subtract out the stars

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lines and see only the lions coming
from the planet, and from those they

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could determine how bright the planet is
relative to the star, which tells them

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something about how it formed. That's
because the brightness of a star or planet

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depends both upon its size and its
temperature. Direct observation evidence of the mass

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and brightness of Ci Tower b's especially
useful because we also know it orbits a

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very young star. Most of the
hot jupiter's found so far we're found orbiting

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middle aided stars, but Ciow's age
provides a tight constraint for testing models by

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providing a unique empirical yardstick by which
to measure competing theories. Can they produce

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a planet this spright and massive in
so little time? The author's analysis of

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the spectral lines from carbon monoxide shows
that Ci Tower B has a mass of

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around eleven point six jupiters and is
around one hundred and thirty four times fainter

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than its parent star. At about
two million years old, Ci Tow B

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is by far the youngest hot jupiter
directly detected. Preto says that provides strong

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evidence that it formed through a hot
start process, a theoretical model that describes

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how gravitational instabilities could form giant planets
more rapidly than traditional accretion models. There's

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no way you could you could possibly
make up the things that we see with

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telescopes. They're they're they're incredible.
It's it's better than any kind of fiction.

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Our sun is sort of unusual and
that it's all by itself. Most

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stars. If you go out at
night, clear night, you look at

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the sky, you see all those
little points of light. About half of

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those points you see are actually systems
of more than one star, two,

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three, four, or five stars, all gravitationally bound. My name is

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Lisa Prato. I'm an astronomer at
Low Observatory, and I work on very

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young binary stars and planet formation and
very young stellar systems. Doctor Lisa Prato's

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research is aimed at solving a big
question, how do planets form? The

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answer lies somewhere inside a star system. Doctor Proto doesn't look for any old

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stars. She looks for only the
youngest ones. These are things that are

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compared to a human, would be
minutes old, and for stars, they're

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a million years old or two million
years old. So there are these new

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born stars, These young, wild, misbehaving stars are very unstable, very

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variable. So it's excruciatingly difficult to
look for planets in these systems. But

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very young stars are the only chance
for doctor Proto to catch a glimpse of

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a disc of dust and gas that's
left over from the stars. Berth inside

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this disc is where planets form.
The search for young stars with planets becomes

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especially interesting with binaries. You have
two stars and both of them are they're

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born together, They're exposed to the
same conditions, the same environment, and

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the two stars have the same temperature
and the same mass. Why in some

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cases there's only one star still have
a disc and the other star doesn't.

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Does that mean the other star has
already formed planets? Or does that mean

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the other star didn't form with a
disc? Or these great questions. And

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when you have two or more stars
together, you actually have a sort of

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a built in control. Who knows
what answers? Doctor Pratu might find Now

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that IGRINS, the most powerful infrared
spectrograph in the world, has come to

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DCT through collaboration with the University of
Texas and KASSI in Korea, Doctor Prato

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realizes that all future breakthroughs rely on
collaboration, most importantly by passing the scientific

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method on to the next generation of
astronomers. I think the most important thing

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that I do is actually mentoring students
and interns and post docs. That's really

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cuy key to passing along knowledge.
And ideas, not just the science itself,

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but also how to do the sciences, the ethics and the things that

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should drive the work in astronomy,
which are curiosity and determination and dedication and

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honesty. That's Lisa Preta from the
Low Observatory and this is space time still

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to come new insights into the atmosphere
and star of an exoplanet, and later

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in the science report, scientists have
now discovered one hundred and twenty five mammal

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species low in the dark. All
that are more still to come on space

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time. Astronomers have failed defined any
signs of an atmosphere around the Earth like

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exoplanet Trappis one B. The findings
are reported in the Astrophysical Journal Letters are

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a blow for those who had speculated
that this world could Sunday play host to

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a human colony. Discovered back in
twenty sixteen, the Trappist one BE exoplanetary

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system is located just forty light years
away, making it a celestial near neighbor.

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It's centered around a spectro type M
red dwarf star, smaller and cooler

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than the Sun. So far,
astronomers have detected seven tightly packed Earth like

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planets orbiting around the star, three
of which, including Trappis one B,

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are within the star's habitable zone,
the area around a star where temperatures would

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allow liquid water central for life as
we know it to pul on a planet's

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surface. These features of all fueled
hopes are finding potentially habitable environments for humans

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beyond our Solar system. The new
observations examine the planets Trappist one, B,

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C, H ALL using the James
Web Space telescope with Trappis one be

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observed during two transits. By analyzing
the central star's light after it pass through

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the extoplanet's atmosphere during a transit,
astronomers can obtain spectroscopic data on the chemical

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composition of the planet's atmosphere, providing
unique fingerprints of the molecules and atoms found

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within that atmosphere. While all seven
of Trappis one's planets have been tantilizing candidates

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in the search for Earth sized planets
with an atmosphere, Trappist one be's proximity

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to its host star means it finds
itself in harsher conditions than its siblings.

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It receives four times more radiation than
the Earth does from the Sun and it

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has surfaced temperatures ranging from one hundred
and twenty to two hundred and twenty degrees

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celsius. Astronomers say they could also
confidently rule out the existence of a cloud

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free, hydrogen rich atmosphere. In
other words, there appears to be no

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clear extended atmosphere around Trappis one be
at all. However, it could not

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confidently exclude a thinner atmosphere, such
as those composed of pure water, carbon

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dioxide, or methane, nor an
atmosphere similar to that of Saturn's moon Titan,

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the only moon in the Solar System
with its own atmosphere, and one

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which many scientists believe was very similar
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Trappist one BEE were to have an
atmosphere, it would have been the easiest

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to detect and describe of all the
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one B will be the closest planet
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in the system. Its transit would
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factors make Trappis one BE a crucial
yet challenging target for observation. In fact,

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the key finding of the study was
the significant impact that stellar activity and

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contamination has when trains that determine the
nature of an exoplanet. Now, stellar

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contamination refers to the influence of the
star's own features, such as dark regions

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called sparts and bright regions called faculi, on the measurements of an exoplanet's atmosphere.

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The team found compelling evidence that still
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shaping the transmission spectru of Trappis one
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system as well. They found that
central star's activity can create ghost signals,

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and these may fill the observer into
thinking that detected a specific molecule in an

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exoplanet's atmosphere, and so the results
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when planning future observations of all exoplanetary
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like Trappis I, since it's centered
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be especially active with star spots and
frequent flare events. This is Space Time

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and time out for another brief look
at some of the other stories making us

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in science this week with a science
report. A new study has found that

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koala populations across Australia have been decimated
by bushfires in recent years, and researchers

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of forecasting that these wildfires will continue
to threaten them and their habitats even more

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in coming decades. By generating FI
susceptibility maps from the present through to the

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year twenty seventy, scientists were able
to identify the threat that wildfires posed to

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koalas both now and under feature climate
change scenarios, and they found alarming outcomes.

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The findings, reported in the journal
Environmental Technology and Innovation, show that

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almost half of austress koala habitats will
be under high bushfire threat by the year

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twenty seventy. There are fresh warnings
today that at least forty percent of amphibian

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species around the world are currently under
threat. The findings are reported in the

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journal Nature, based on an international
assessment of eight thousand species. The assessment

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was done last year to update a
previous analysis of amphibians in two thousand and

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four, which showed that they were
the most threatened type of animal with a

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backbone in the world. Researchers say
that the threats posed to amphibians are ongoing.

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However, while the vast majority of
threats back in two thousand and four

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were related to disease and habitat loss. Ongoing and predicted climate change impacts are

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now responsible for thirty nine percent of
the deterioration in the status of the animals.

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Scientists have now discovered around one hundred
and twenty five mammal species that glow

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under ultraviolet light. The findings,
reported in the journal the Raw Society Open

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Science, covers all twenty seven orders
of mammals, suggesting that it's actually quite

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widespread amongst mammal species. Researchers say
it's still unclear exactly why animals have this

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fluorescence, but it it's likely to
be used to make their skin and therapy

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brighter and enhance visual signaling, especially
for nocturnal species. Okay, time now

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for the silliest story of the week
and a wyoming couple enjoying a ride on

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the popular Durango and Silvers and narrow
Gate steam railroad, which snakes its way

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through southwestern Colorado. A video what
appears to be the ever less is Sasquatch

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timendum from Austraya and Skeptics says it's
one of the most unusual big foot sightings

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ever seen. That was great.
It like a good sath quatch film.

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Everyone thinks death quatches up in the
northwest of America, you know, with

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all foresty and stuff like that.
But the supposed sighting supposed sides of almost

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every state all the way down to
Florida of these sort of humuloid animals on

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the prow. And this film was
supposed to be taken from a steam train,

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small gauge tourist train running between a
couple of towns in Colorado. The

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story goes that someone was supposed to
be filming on behalf of someone else to

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try and spot Elk, and therefore
they were filming out the window the which

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was the back of the train,
filming out the window, and they saw

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something moving. Now, if you
look at the original video, this thing

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moving was a long way away that
they saw it moving apparently, and then

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most of the videos you see online
at large, so it makes them look

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a lot clearer. So this creature
they saw, which is humanoid, very

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person thing you're walking along through some
low brush, low scrub, and then

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sits down and then lies back.
But what's happening is that someone suggested is

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lying down hiding in response to the
train the whole minutes before the scene,

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and so that doesn't hold order to
me. Right then, what it is

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seemed to be doing is lying down
want to see someone filming it, which'd

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be an interesting prospect for a sealthquat
to know when someone is filming it.

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And one of the strange things about
this video is that it pans off to

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the right and doesn't film the creature
anymore. Creature still as far as I'm

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still sitting on the ground, But
then because the train is moving along,

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did you think you'd be turning around
and filming this thing for as long as

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you could. It doesn't come along
very often. Let's you see Bigfoot,

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but no, the camera just pans
on as if it's just going along.

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I got to tell you, it
looked more like a Wookie than a sasquatch.

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To me. It was long and
thin like a wookie. Sasquatch is

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supposed to be tall and broad.
Looks like a wookie costume. You can

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buy them for about three hundred dollars
in the US. Apparently, I look

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at it, but so and the
people themselves don't seem really like ridiculously excited

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about this thing. I don't know
how often they spot a sasquatch, they

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say, you know, there's the
elusive creature there. It is blood blah.

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But and you think I'd be running
around screaming something, look at that,

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look at that, look at that, in around a high piece of

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voice and saying how exciting it was. They don't seem huge excited. Normally,

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when you watch episodes of Finding Bigfoot, they're doing the finding or the

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searching, at least if they don't
actually find anything. They're doing the searching

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at night. So one of Thesume's
Bigfoot would be nocturnal. Yet this is

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broad daylight. Yeah. The famous
Patterson film that was in the late sixties

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was daylight as well. You know, film later admitted that it was certainly

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the guy who got dressed up said
it was looking all along and yeah that's

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daylight. Yeah, most of the
things at night. I don't know why

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ghosts when he come out at night, what's what's some of the ghosts in

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the daytime? You know, what's
what's their problems? Because they're going to

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be seen. There is actually a
company in the town they were heading towards,

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which promotes sasquatch through it. Now, they're actually really subtle about it.

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They're actually pretty cool. It seems
to be. They're mainly just promoting

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four wheel drive camping trips out of
the wild, so it's an interesting coincidence.

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