Vuelo Panam 103 teoría de conspiración || Relatos del lado oscuro (Podcast)

0:00 A conspiracy theory It is defined as an alternative theory that tries to explain a phenomenon of great importance, but usually tries to explain it beyond what has officially been explained. There are so many conspiracy theories. There are all kinds of conspiracy theories. Tonight you may discover something about this subject in this program accounts of the dark side, strange beings, events, is inexplicable, telling stories that other minds prefer to ignore. Let' s go back in time It ' s the' 70s. For many young people. That happened in the last century and you probably haven' t heard of it. But by a thousand nine hundred and seventy- one, the U S lost the Vietnam war.

1:22 Even when your troops finished leaving until seventy- two and whatever you wanted was already defeated. The longest war and one of the cruelest ever was ending and the United States lost the war. For their part, the Soviet Union, that is, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, is having quite a peak in the communist movement and all this form of government and all this political situation related to the Soviet Union is expanding. There are movements that are financed either by the Soviet Union or by chis and even with support from Cuba, in different parts of the world. At the same time, there is a major discomfort in the territories of the Middle East because of conflicts with Israel, so that the moment is very conflictive let me discuss another little bit. While in Mexico we were living a more or less good period and in many parts of the world there was economic boom and some tranquility. In the Middle East, the situation was terrible. Israel had had to face three or four wars in a very short time. The last was the Yom Kippur conflict, an attempt to invade its territory that ended with the defeat of its adversaries. The conflict was against Libya, Syria, Egypt. Come on, that was getting ugly. There were terrorist movements in various parts of the world and terrorist attacks.

2:57 Frequent movements such as the Palestine Liberation Organization, the Palestine Liberation Front and many others had begun to work in the area of terrorism, such as bombing, detonating a train, attacking a minister. That was the environment, but there were more problems. There were problems because the United States has suddenly had an economic boom and there is industry, growth. Everything you want to send out based on oil and you know what. The large oil producers in the United States, within the United States, that is, in the United States, have begun to lower their production. Texas' big oil tankers are shrinking because the mantles are running out, the old fields are losing their strength.

3:53 Mexican oil is very good, but it' s not enough. They depend on Arab oil, the Arabian Peninsula and in general, the Middle East is a territory with large oil deposits, and this generates much interest for both the Soviet Union and the United States. So there' s a huge conflict. The United States is subsidizing, is providing money for the governments of Iran, the famous Shah of Iran, Mohamed Reza Pahlevi. They are financing weapons to sustain that government in exchange for oil. But there are other problems. There is enormous instability in Iraq in nineteen hundred and seventy- seven, and in Iraq the government is socialist and has Soviet support. But for its part, Egypt is also generating some instability. In general, they all have some problem and in one thousand nine hundred and seventy- three the Union of Arab oil producers decrees a oil embargo. What this means is that no one will sell oil to the United States, to any of its allies, or to anyone who has supported Israel during the Yom Kippur war. It was a huge problem because weapons came from several countries, came from the United States, came from England, came from capitalist Germany. At that time remember that Germany was divided

5:27 into two, not belonging to the Iron Curtain, the Soviet bloc and had the division of the Berlin Wall, and another belonging to the capitalist bloc. The issue is that this becomes a real problem, because America is dependent on oil and there are a number of problems. The famous Suez Canal is another issue, but the blockade generates four hundred percent oil. Imagine those cars in the United States that gave three kilometers per liter of gasoline, the big planes flying all over the world is chaos. In the face of this, the United States has to rethink its position before the world. If they do this to you again, they can bring you to ruin all of a sudden.

6:16 In the United States there are no very long gasolines, rows of shooting cars fights because there is no gasoline. Military aircraft with minimum fuel suspended missions stopped ships is a chaos without fuel. They' re dead and the Arabs know it. But what can be done. Obviously, the U S is taking more money to Iran. Sha Mohamed Reza Paclevi sells them and begins to diminish the attention a little, but other Arab countries not Iraq No. And this is leading to a series of tensions in the region that end in a thousand nine hundred and seventy- nine, when the Shah of Iran is dethroned, despite all American efforts to stay in power, that comes down and the new government is an Islamic government. The new ruler in turn, the leader of the whole movement, is the famous Ayatola Homeini. He is a rigid, strict Muslim man, strict turban practitioner, totally religious and as such has no interest in negotiating anything with the United States. So simply and in fact he captures his diplomats and arms himself one but of those United States he' s going to have to play with his hand down the table. As simple as

7:50 that, you can no longer afford a new global war, such as Vietname, where it came out completely collapsed. He can' t be on it anymore because at the same time he was giving money, it didn' t do any good. But it also has another huge powder keg, because at that time, in Central America, Guatemala, Nicaragua, El Salvador Honduras, very strong socialist movements begin to emerge. Nicaragua with Anastasio Somoza, the butcher of the United States and the movement against Anastasio Somoza. Then suddenly they see themselves in a conflict that is affecting them in all their interests. Meanwhile, the Soviet Union is having a good boom, it' s funding Iraq, it' s funding Southeast Asia, it' s funding here and there.

8:43 The Chinese, who are also completely filiated against the United States, are also having a very good impact on certain regions. Well, what does America do with its classic strategies. Yes, for years, the United States, according to conspiracy theorists, had used false flags, for example, per Hardvard. A conspiracy theory claims that the aupr Harvard bombing not only knew it was going to happen, but voluntarily did nothing to justify their entry into the war. Also, for example, in World War I, the sinking of Lusitania was something entirely deliberate and ended with the entry of the United States into the war.

9:33 And if we keep going around, we' re finding a bunch of conspiracy theories. But in those seventies, America is playing several cards. On the one hand, in the Middle East, Central America, in Eastern Europe, in the regions behind the iron curtain. While the Soviet Union has everything under control, the United States has a multiple espionage service that injects money into ject money there. This terrible scenario continues to grow. With the fall of the Shah of Iran. They all get complicated in the Middle East. Then, in the 1980s, the movement continues to gain strength and the United States continues to weaken, at least in appearance. But deep down they' re negotiating, playing counter- espionage, double spy like movie, code messages, murders, hidden, very impressive things. By nine hundred and eighty- eight, you' d think all that was behind you. There were already some Olympics in Moscow, there were other things. The world was very happy in the eighties. After all that vortex in the Middle East, we' re all happy and listening in English- speaking groups and things like that. The richest music movement in the United States and little dances begin. It' s not disco music anymore, no, no, no, this is all going

11:03 very well. If you lived in the 1980s, you remember we felt at ease, but deep down in the United States you continued with the same concern, but stronger and stronger. For a simple reason. Iraq, now under the power of Saddam Husseine, has no affection for the United States. Iran is in the hands of Islamic religious ayatolas and has no appreciation of the United States either. And the oil' s down there. But that' s not the end of it. Someone has to do something and there' s starting to be injections of money over here. And there comes the famous Iran Iraq war, which would last almost ten years, where financing went to both sides clandestinely. The U S was giving money to Iran through sophisticated armaments.

12:01 The Iran contras scandal sounds like Oliver North selling American weapons to the Ayatollas in Iran, who were supposed to be their enemies, but sold them the weapons and with that money went and bought weapons for the Nicaraguan contras. Yes, yes, those who were against revolutionaries, for a counter- revolution and with Mexican drug cartels, the U S CIA was dealing drugs to send weapons to Iraq. Who understands all that. It was a horrible network, but the world is happy. Now let me change the page. I' m going to talk to you about something different. You remember an aviation company called Panamerican Airways. PANAM was emblematic of one of the world' s first aviation companies for American Airways in the 1930s or the one that invented the first flights that went around the world. Panam' s zero- flight one sailed because that ' s what they called it, from San Francisco, California. He went all the way around the world, going through how many islands he could visit Hawaii, Japan, after Europe, until he returned to New York. I mean, I turned it around completely and then flight zero two went backwards in the opposite direction. The fact is that Panama, in the 1970s, was

13:33 seriously affected by the issue of oil. He hit him hard, but he was still surviving. It was a valuable company. People loved working for Panama. Not everyone can work there. No. No, gentlemen, Panama has always been incredibly strict to be an airplane employee, i e pilot or cabin staff. It was necessary to quote certain characteristics not only to be beautiful or ugly, but to have a vocation of intelligent polyglot service, willing to everything with a great training to become flight captain Empanam was to be flight captain was someone who had fought for years for this and who now, following captain, became mentor, that is, those who came after him would learn from him.

14:31 That was the real pride. I' m captain of Panama. It ' s not anything. Being captain of Panama means you fought for it and others recognize you. But the cabin staff are all quiet. Being Panamanian cabin staff was a privilege, but a privilege that costs and costs a lot of work. Getting there not because it' s hard to get in, but to stay because you have to get up at four in the morning, leave the hotel at five in the morning as if nothing, perfectly dressed, both them and them, because Panama not only had pretty girls. In the 1970s and 1980s there were mixed crews, men and women. That pretty girl thing had already been left behind. Now there were also people with many years of flight and great capacity. The service is impeccable, incredible. People would go up to panam as if it were a dress- dressing dress tie, heels because it was panam So you' d probably meet up with a high- ranking diplomat from a rock star, a well- known character from the farandula flying in Panama. The planes, in addition, were great, but the staff were the key At six in the morning they were at the door of the workstation and the next twelve or fourteen hours would work and when they got off the plane, after arriving at their destination, they should continue to see

16:02 themselves as if nothing, as if they had just come out of the shower. Smiles, strong and intelligent, able to control a violent passenger, able to help a baby be born in full flight, able to save the life of someone who is having a heart attack. It wasn' t anything. And, as I was saying, planes, planes from Panama were especially well cared for. Panam had several routes. It had the international routes, the big ones, the powerful ones, those routes that traveled the world from tip to end and had the short routes where it used smaller planes. The large planes were the seven forty- seven the beautiful and impressive yun bulb with that classic emblem back. His first planes were truly small and an adventure to fly into them. But Panam had enabled these great seven forty- seven beautiful luxury crew. Let me tell you that Panam was the one who established that cabin crewmen would leave the leather jacket and the cap and pilot lenses of the Second War and wear the naval suit as if it were naval personnel, and their planes. All of Panama' s planes started calling themselves Clipper. Yes, the Clipper was a ship that had sailed to China in the 19th century and was very famous for it Panam, flying towards the territories of the East.

17:37 He used the term clipper. All of his planes had a name and, therefore, the crew dressed as if it were a ship. They established the elegant sack, with awards, with emblems, with a series of badges, with the stripes of a naval crew and elegance. Imagine, you that brigi bardo traveling with Panama sofía a loren sitting on a plane from Panama and everything you heard we' ve only heard talked about. Once. Having said that, let me take you now to a thousand nine hundred and eighty- eight.

18:23 It' s complicated days. These are complicated days because in nineteen hundred and eighty- eight the United States has shot down an Iranian commercial plane, an Iranian airline plane loaded with two hundred and ninety passengers has been shot down by a missile that was fired from an American cruiser. A warship that had invaded Iranian territorial waters shot down a passenger plane full of Iranians and knows what. The United States said it had been with all or meaning, that the plane had entered the space of the ship and that it had already approached in a disaster. He didn' t even bother to say it was an accident at all. The President of that time said I will not apologize for the United States. Never. The United States never apologized, and in fact they gave a medal to the captain of the ship that shot down the plane.

19:21 I' ll tell you about that later. So there was already there, there was a very strong international terrorist movement in protest against all this. In addition, during the years of the war Iran Iraq, the United States had invested fortunes on both sides and it turns out that both sides were already reaching agreements. By one thousand nine hundred and eighty- eight were already agreeing. It didn' t make sense. Thousands and thousands of people had died stupidly, neither had won anything and were reaching a peace agreement. But the U S wanted to take down the Iranian government, take out the Ayatolas, set up a president or a government of its own to exploit the oil and soon end Iraq and put someone like it did many years later. That was the scenario in eighty- eight, but let' s leave that for one thousand nine hundred and eighty- eight, when December comes Syrian life and like every year, when December comes, Christmas comes. You hear bells at the airports, there' s Christmas musiquita bollitos de Navidad. In the United States everything is full of reindeer and Santa Clauss and many travelers from the United States return home. So when the Christmas period approaches, around December 20th, the flights become saturated, fully filled and it' s the good season for Panama Your planes are full. People go up and get very festive that when they get

20:59 on the plane there' s music that' s so Christmas, it' s all very nice. December twenty- one of a thousand nine hundred and eighty- eight is on a Wednesday and as always, the planes are full because Christmas is approaching and we are at Heathrow Airport in London, England, on the American Pan American ar Ways airline platform is the plane known as Made of the Seas Clipper Made of the Seas. The Maiden Clipper of the Seas is a seventy forty- seven precious. He' s got a few years of flying, but he' s supremely careful. You have an impressive crew.

21:42 There are sixteen crew members captain first officer flight engineer and thirteen flight attendants to attend a passage that would probably be around the three hundred and ninety passengers. That gives you an idea of the size of the plane. Early. In the morning everything is ready. The plane will perform the last trajectory or the penultimate trajectory of flight one hundred and three. Flight one hundred and three is a very complicated flight to Panama. It' s a flight that starts in Malta, in the Mediterranean. From there a plane flies to Frankfurt, in Germany. From Frankfurt in Germany flies to Heathrow in London, and from there they board the large plane that crosses the Atlantic to New York and ends in Detroit, Michigan. So it' s an impressive tour, but not everything the same plane does, a small plane transfers people from Malta to Frankfurt and from Frankfurt to Heathrow. In Heathrow everyone changes planes to a seven forty - seven, which is much more comfortable, more suitable for an intercontinental flight and the plane takes off from Heathrow, flies north to grab the top of the globe and then descends to New York. The bow that I' m putting on the screen right now is the one that describes this flight and from and then there' s another plane that takes people to Detroit and from there they disperse in the United States. The important flight is the Intercontinental. It ' s between eight and ten hours. The plane takes off starts to rise, reaches about thirty- five zero feet about eleven zero meters high and from

23:12 there flies cruise. Preparations have been made on that day in the morning. The May of the Seas plane arrived the day before. It' s full of fuel, almost a hundred tons of fuel, and luggage starts to come up and the ticketing starts to happen, some passengers begin to arrive. The idea is that around six o' clock in the afternoon I take a runway and take off with the idea a little sunrise in New York. Throughout this time, transfer planes will also arrive from Frankfurt. He takes Frankfurt' s luggage off and gets on the plane. There are two or three protocols.

23:55 The first thing is that all the luggage goes through x- rays to see what it' s carrying. There are some dogs out there that smell the luggage, too. Then the boarding begins. People go up, take their place, accommodate the workers of the plane, the cabin people. They and they are in charge of distributing in their seats and uploading the hand luggage to the compartments above the seats. Everything' s perfect. They have a great crew. The captain' s an old veteran who' s over 50 years old. It' s flown 17, 000 hours. He' s got a great copilot, too. An old man too. The head of Beautiful or Hostesses is fifty- something years old and is over twenty flying with Panama So they are very capable people. They order that, they finish, but there' s a little detail. The plane isn' t full. It ' s not gonna be full. It' s extrao. Year, December 21 the evening flight for dawn December 22nd in the United States is usually a flight that there is no free space. But good are things that happen to the airline and so that about one hundred and ninety passengers have cancelled their ticket, some of them last minute. There' s no time to waste.

25:19 You can' t wait to see if someone else wants to go up or won' t have to go out. Thus, the plane closes doors turns on the large engines, heads towards the track and about six twenty- five o' clock takes off on board. There are people of the most varied. The youngest of the passengers is only two months old. He' s a beautiful baby. Her mommy is a young woman who is on her way home to visit grandparents who want to meet the grandson. She' s a beautiful creature. There' s also a folk singer out there. Some athletes and thirty- five young people who belong to the University of Iraq in the United States and who were exchanging in England go home to spend Christmas. There are also other people there, but in general, out of the two hundred and fifty passengers on board, let' s say two hundred are Americans.

26:21 The vast majority. After that, well, that' s a people' s cocktail. There are twenty- one nationalities in there, there are Mexicans, Filipinos, Spaniards, there are all kinds. The plane takes off without any news as expected. It' s a quiet afternoon and it' s starting to go back. The flight starts to rise as the big engines propel him to full power. Traveling in a seven hundred and forty- seven of Panama is an experience. While this happens let me move it a little further north. Let' s go Scotland, down fres county It' s a region a little far from the borders with England. It' s a cool, cold region for December, cloudy as ever. And that' s where we' re headed for Lockerby Village. It' s an even more remote area and we' re in a very small neighborhood known as Sherwood Crescent.

27:26 It' s a neighborhood, it' s a few houses, it' s got a little church over there, it' s got a little school there and they' re very few inhabitants. In fact, all over Lockervino there are more than four zero people living. It is a small population, there are many sheep in the area. It is very cold and that evening, moreover, is the shortest day of the year, Wednesday twenty- first of December of one thousand nine hundred and eighty- eight was the shortest day of that year and, obviously, at six o' clock last night. But that' s no problem, because Lokerry' s people have a hobby of the best sitting around watching TV. They love watching a program known as thec seor life. This is your life. I don' t know if you' ve seen him. I never saw him, but they love him.

28:06 Even when the show ends. People go pop to the tavern to talk about what they saw on the show. So everyone' s home, they ' re delighted with life when about the program started at six o' clock is well advanced. It' s all very exciting. Everything is perfectly fine in the bea locker houses and little lights that light and turn off at Christmas and everything is fine. Everyone is very happy until suddenly, in the middle of the silence of the night, a kind of lightning is heard. It is a very strong lightning, very strong for the old men, the older ones, those who lived the time of the war. It' s a sound that immediately brings shock, because it' s an explosion. They just heard that. Other people say how weird those lightnings are and I don' t know how much any of them are looking to stay frozen, because what they just heard is the clipper made of the you explode in mid- flight and start falling apart by disintegrating one of the wings. It falls completely over the Sherwood neighborhood, growing with fifty tons of fuel and immediately bursting fragments of the plane begin to fall everywhere. The impact kills eleven residents of Locker By

29:37 and all those cute people on board are dead. The clipper made of the Seas has disappeared from flight control radar screens everywhere, exploded in mid- flight and fell into thousands of pieces, watering on an area of 1, 800 square kilometers. Impressive. The plane was passing thirty- five thousand feet high, had reached its flight level and has disappeared. The impact of that has generated a telluric wave that was recorded by London' s ismographers several hundred miles away. The impact of the fragments that have fallen in Lóckerby has caused a fire that causes a kind of glow on the horizon that can be visible up to forty kilometers from there. The guards, the vigilante people who were in other regions have been able to see how the horizon lights up in an intense red color. When the first cops arrive at the scene, they can' t even get close. The heat is so intense that it has begun to melt. The pavement of a nearby road and the metal fences protecting one of the curves of the road have begun to melt, but also objects continue to fall. When the first firefighters arrive there, they have no idea what to do. It' s locker by for the whole region. There are 20 policemen who, when a fire occurred, change their uniform and are firefighters.

31:06 When firefighters begin to arrive from other regions. That' s a terrible scenario. During the night, it' s a nightmare. The smell of fuel is everywhere, the smell of burnt things is impressive. The sounds, the clicks, are something that stays in the memory of those who were there and cannot forget it. In addition, this rare phenomenon is generated where you feel that there is silence, sepulchral, which inhibits shock, inhibits you from detecting the sounds themselves and the darkness. They can' t see what' s happened. They don' t know exactly what it is. At first it is thought that there was a bomb. There was a lot of fear, thinking maybe a Russian missile had hit Lockerby. The media later reported that the plane, Panama' s one hundred and three flight, the clipper made of the Seas, the Maiden of the Seas, had fallen to the ground.

32:06 It' s not clear what happened. The news goes and goes in all directions. There is much confusion at dawn with the first rays of light is shocking. Neighbors of quite remote localities begin to arrive at Ockerville. They don ' t come to visit, they don' t come to say hello, they don' t come to see what they help. Some of them bring in their vehicles bodies, bodies of people who have fallen off the plane. Then begins the painful recovery of that scattered. In all this huge surface there are very small fragments, there are other very large ones. A full wing, a complete engine that ruined the road by falling and sinking one of the wings has caused a crater when it fell to the ground and exploded, caused a hole of almost fifteen meters deep and another one hundred meters long. He ' s destroyed 20 houses. The stage is tremendous. Questions begin to arise how this could happen, what happened, what happens when. The experts, the experts, the people from F to North America are also beginning to arrive.

33:16 As it is an American- made plane, that is, from the United States, of the Boing. The Boing experts arrive, the people of the US Federal Aviation Agency arrive, the English experts arrive, the international experts arrive and people arrive from Germany, because, as the flight had started in Frankfurt, they also arrive there and what they find is shocking as the day goes by. They begin to recover some bodies that are being placed in the Municipal Palace, in the Hall, the town hall, as they call it. In an impromptu morgue. People are asked, please, not to touch the objects where the reports are. If there' s a piece of plane in your house that fell, that' s where they report it and someone ' s going to go there that, please, doesn' t move anything anymore. It is important for experts to know where each piece fell, to put it together and try to reassemble the Made of the Seas. The fact is, very soon, after a couple of days, maybe three days, something is very clear. This plane didn' t fall. Only all passengers are dead. Yes, the two hundred and forty- three passengers, sixteen crew members and eleven Lockerby residents are dead. No survivors, no chance at all. But what becomes more evident as he recovers fragments of the plane is

34:50 that it was shot down by an explosive attack. It wasn' t the first time. Some years ago, in nineteen hundred and eighty- three, there had been another attack on a plane from Panama. A flight from Tokyo, Hawaii, United States, had suffered an explosive attack and was about to take it down thanks to the pilot' s expertise had survived. But in the case of Lockerville' s flight, Panama' s hundred and three, that had not been the case. This had been much worse. The experts are becoming aware of two central parts. The accident had described two different trajectories, that is, in mid- flight, the plane had been segmented.

35:30 The front where the pilots go and the front of the cab had separated from the rest of the fuselage and had fallen on its own on an elliptical trajectory that had lasted approximately two minutes. Before landing, the rest of the plane ' s body had continued to fly with engines at full power, but without aerodynamics. By losing the front, the plane began to unravel by throwing a piece outwards quickly because, moreover, at the time that explosive device had detonated the explosion, it had opened a gap such that it separated the cabin and caused damage by explosive decompression that had disintegrated the plane. This was obvious.

36:17 The trajectory of the remains, the dispersion that was everywhere, made it very noticeable that this had happened. There wasn' t much to say. Now came the task of arming it. As the weeks pass and with all the pain of the people who had lost their loved ones who knew nothing, reports begin to be given and it becomes evident this was an attack. There' s no more. The FB and North American experts from the FA and other experts began to analyze the remains that were being recovered and put them together in a kind of skeleton. They were placing the fragments that arrived in a sort of macabre exhibition. It was clear where the number one cargo explosion went.

37:02 As the weeks go by, more remains are recovered and experts can determine where the explosion started and where the bomb was. And the amazement is enormous because they find the remains of the bomb. The bomb was placed on a Hitachi radio recorder, a model like the one I' m showing you on screen. They had removed some of the internal mechanisms where they had placed an explosive with a time detonator. After a while after the plane had taken off, the device had exploded, causing an expansive wave that damaged the cargo hold, broke the bulkheads and this generated segmentation of the plane. The other thing, it was the effect of the tragedy itself. But not only that. As the experts and experts in explosives were analyzing the remains that were being recovered, they were able to determine which bags were closest to the explosive and finally, which suitcase contained the explosion and what clothes were in the suitcase. You' ll think about how that could be. If the plane spread over 800 square kilometers, it wasn' t fast. It took almost three years, but they managed to determine that the luggage containing the bomb was a brown Samsonight suitcase.

38:19 Inside was the radio recorder and there were clothes. The fragments of clothing carried directly to a store in Malta, where one hundred and three of the recovered clothes had begun to fly. These fragments of clothing had a name mark, the size and you could appreciate the fragment of the cloth as they knew it. These are expert techniques, but basically what they do is analyze the different garments and according to the order in which the bags were uploaded, determine which one was closest and which one further, and then, by the content of explosives, they were able to determine that it was a semtex type explosive does not smell, unlike other explosives that are easily detectable by dogs. The zentex doesn' t smell. But there were too many questions left. It was obvious the suitcase had caused the explosion. All the misfortune, who packed the suitcase. The suitcase had no label. Yes, even if you don ' t believe it, in the fragments of the suitcase that were loaded with explosive remnants and that determined that this was where it was started, it had no label. On the other hand, other suitcases that were very close or in contact did. This one didn' t carry a passenger, she wasn ' t assigned to anyone. No one was accompanying that suitcase. It was deliberate, but who had done it, who had an interest in it.

39:49 The investigation continued and as progress was made, the evidence revealed little more, for example, that the suitcase as such had been purchased in Malta. The clothes had been purchased in Malta, but the recorder had not, the Hitachi recorder had not been purchased there. It was originally said that it had been purchased in Libya, but Hitachi' s invoice and export order indicated Iran. The questions were huge. The investigation went on for some time. It was finally determined that the Libyans had caused this attack. The famous Colonel Gaddafi, who had a personal quarrel with the United States. Colonel Gaddafi was said to have ordered the attack and, through a last name subject, the East Macraji was responsible for placing the explosive, arming the suitcase, putting it on the plane in Malta, hence taking it to Frankfurt and Frankfurt to Heathrow. But he wasn' t there. He was the one who organized it. It all pointed to him and another guy who would have been the one who packed his suitcase at the airport, a Libyan airline employee who was in Heathrow.

41:13 That' s what it was all about. The United States and, in general, the international community claimed Libya. For this. Livia originally did not accept anything, did not recognize anything, nor did I say I am the author, let alone the subject whom they had pointed out as guilty to the Mcgrahi it turned out that he had pointed it out. The clothes salesman. Apparently he recognized it and said this is the one who bought the clothes that were in the suitcase. Well, Grahi soul was a relief intelligence operator, that is, a guy who had to do with terrorism and all this at Gaddafi' s service. So it sounded good the theory sounded good. This guy is in charge of arming the bomb with an explosive technician. He had taken it, brought it, put it on and exploded without being on board.

42:00 But Libya said nothing. Launo established important economic sanctions, trade blockades, product blockade, food blockade, everything, everything, everything, why the hypothesis said it was Libya in the year two thousand and three. Finally, Libya issued a very brief letter stating that it recognized that one of its intelligence operators had been the cause of the attack, not that they, i e Gaddafi, had neither authorized it, planned it nor ordered it, but that a free agent belonging to Libya intelligence had been the culprit and handed this agent over to the Scottish authorities. The officer was prosecuted and sentenced to life imprisonment.

42:44 I think in the two thousand thirteen or two thousand fifteen he was released for health reasons and sent back. For its part, Libya, recognizing the attack as being caused by its agents, delivered$ 2 5 billion in compensation to families who lost a loved one on the flight. An extraordinary figure was followed by the United Nations lifting the trade embargo and the flow of oil markets again. All that and the matter was left there the culprit in prison, although he was later released. Two hundred and ninety people died, but the story had two or three seconds, two or three doubts. The first question asked by different experts in international intelligence, that is, experts in espionage, is why Libya Qaddafi was certainly not very fond of the United States of America, but had received support from the United States on different occasions. Within these mysterious programs of financing and armaments, Gaddafia had received support from the United States.

43:54 Second, why in such a peculiar way, why suddenly? Why Libya against a plane of this nature, why not attack a ship, why not do something else, why I hired a plane that left England and was loaded with people. It wasn' t Gaddafi' s style, but there was also another question left out there. When the USS Vincenes, the missile cruiser shot down the Iranian plane, the Ayatollahs, that is, the religious ministers who were in Iran' s power, said that the sky would cry blood sounded more like Iranian revenge than a Libyan attack. But, of course, it all meant that it was a livio who had organized this. And there was a lot of silence. But as time went by, the questions kept growing.

44:52 And let me plant two or three. The first of them is how on a commercial Christmas flight one hundred and sixty- five wave passengers seal their last- minute ticket. That' s not usually the case. Christmas planes are full. People want to reach their destination, celebrate, etcetera. But in addition, there was also the big question who were the ones who had cancelled and obviously, a very strong evidence was jumping. First, most of the staff at the U S Embassy in Moscow traveled for Christmas to the United States and cancelled their ticket. Being in Frankfurt, I mean, they were already on their way to Hidrow. When they cancelled the flight, the entire South African diplomatic delegation going to the United Nations for a matter of Namibian independence got off the plane. The ambassador of Lebanon, that is, the US ambassador to Lebanon in Lebanon, cancelled his flight. After that, a series of characters belonging to the U S party cancelled the trip. The trip was the son of the assistant to the director of the FEB and the United States of America. A rebel last name guy canceled his flight. Last minute at the airport. He cancelled all this immediately. He raised more than one eyebrow in suspicion that it was happening. But, of course, that was not the end of the matter. The matter became much more complicated, because years

46:24 later a series of documents would begin to emerge that were classified as top secret. On November 2, the Federal Aviation Agency in the United States issued an alert for possible explosive radios, i e explosive gittachi recorders, because specifically that because they had discovered in Frankfurt a car of an Iranian terrorist belonging to an Iranian movement and in his cajuel there was an explosive device instantly on a Hitachi radio recorder, the same model that shot down the plane over Ocherby. The warning became stronger. The 17th was an urgent alert for an imminent explosive attack.

47:13 On 18 November, the alert was no longer opened. It was direct against Panama, the most emblematic line in the United States of America at the time, but on December 5 the alert was even clearer. They had detected a phone call in Helsinki, where an anonymous subject warned of a direct attack on a flight from Panama that he would make from Heathrow in London two weeks after that day, that is, on the twenty- first of December. But that' s not the end of the matter. The testimony of the subject of Malta, that is, the one who sold the clothes was, moreover, conspicuous. The guy couldn' t find out who the terrorist was, but until the fourth time they showed him the pictures in a row of prisoners, he wasn' t able to identify him. Second, the suitcase.

48:07 According to the first experts, the suitcase should have been in the middle of the cargo compartment from bottom to top in half, as it came from Frankfurt. Interconnection flights had arrived after baggage had begun to be loaded. Therefore, the first suitcases were the suitcases that had been brought up in Heathrow, England, and then the suitcases that had come from other places. However, when the experts begin to analyze further, they realize that the only way to destroy the lower bulkheads opened the cabin and take it off is by being below. The remains of the luggage container showed that the explosion had occurred below.

48:52 Therefore, the suitcase had been put in Heathrow. He had not traveled from Malta or Frankfurt. It had been put there. By chance, the two platforms known as Tarmac of Iranian lines and Panam are together on Headhroop in nineteen hundred and eighty- eight, but there was another problem. Several technicians of the company had indicated that small carts where luggage was kept were exposed had been about four hours without being accommodated by anyone for any reason. But it' s not over there yet. As the days passed and the number of cancellations became evident. Something else was also evident. On board the plane were at least five U S CIA agents travelling to people who were in charge of analyzing Iranian terrorism and were based in Lebanon and who were also investigating drug trafficking into the Middle East and the Middle East into the U S, which served to finance the counterrevolutions that the U S was shutting down. The only prisoner convicted of the attack was Almagraje. He did not agree to have been the perpetrator of the attack, he did not agree to have planned anything. But why

50:24 this. All this raised many suspicions and all arrows pointed to Iran. Iran had the motive. An American ship had shot down its plane, killing two hundred and ninety passengers, or I don' t know how many more, in a declared belligerent attitude. Why, because the ship had invaded Iranian territorial waters. The plane was on a commercial route away from the ship, not approaching, as he originally said to the captain, but moving away and still shot it down. Knowing that it was a plane like a Nero with a transponder that identified his address name, flight, etcetera. But not only that, but the American President awarded the captain a medal for the downing of the plane. This was in offense after offense after offense against Iran. All arrows point that way. The Hitachi found in the wreckage of the plane. This Cassetera radio recorder, as you want to call it, had been sold to Iran. The suitcase wasn' t where they said it wasn' t.

51:28 Everything focused on a conspiracy theory and what is this good, very simple for the great conspiracy theorists, the United States wanted to create a false flag. What does this mean to blame Iran for the attack on Panama' s one hundred and three flight, most of which were American passengers. In an emblematic line and therefore and as a result, attack Iran and invade it, end the problem. Then they could do whatever they wanted with Iraq. Why they didn' t. And here comes another conspiracy theory And it' s very interesting because by chance, at the same time Iran was acquiring equipment for nuclear production. The U S valued whether or not it could attack Iran. The operation was probably already fully planned, fully indicated. The downing of the Iranian plane was deliberate, not casual. It wasn' t an accident. Obviously, it wasn' t a mix- up. They had shot down the Iranian plane to provoke an Iranian attack. The Iranian attack did not occur and, in fact, the ayatóla homeinie in one of so many interventions clearly said that they were not in a hurry to take revenge based on a verse of

52:59 the Koran. Therefore, Iran was not then the one who shot him down on board. There were four U S agents, there were many other people. The conspiracy theory points to the fact that they themselves took him down, as Iran did not attack them. They alone attacked to invade Iran. They probably changed their minds because in a thousand nine hundred and ninety- one the famous desert storm occurred. The U S invaded Iraq and changed its target. Of course all this is just theories and conspiracy or not. The fact is that people, children, adults, travelers, very interesting characters who went there lost their lives in a completely absurd spy game. You don' t think so, and after discussing these very gruesome issues, I think the best thing we can do is to send some greetings and congratulations. First of all, we' re going to send a big greeting and a huge congratulations to Lily the Garza. He' s celebrating his birthday and we' re very happy to be accompanied by his uncle Patrick, who' s always in the chat

54:30 room who' s a great friend of this channel. He asked us to congratulate him and we sent him this loving, strong hug. They' re a big family and we really appreciate them. And after that, well, we have to send some other greetings to Oliver Zaguerube madeel for Osiris Yamilet Fines, for Susana Tapia and her brothers who are in Atlanta, for Edwin Valdez and her wolfies. They hear us while they work. They have a furniture repair shop and they' re listening to us while they' re working. For Dante López Rosas, he was listening to us when we were fourteen years old when we were there on the radio. Now when he' s 30, he keeps listening to us. But now in the channel man Dante we send you a big hug. Dude. Thank you so much for joining us for so many years. Francisco Flores Sanchez. He is a person with visual impairment and likes this channel because he listens to us. That is the idea, precisely to make Francisco' s idea We are very happy that he has encouraged us to write and that he talks about this because for us the fact that we are radio people and now being on YouTube forces us to remain much more auditory than visual. There are some people who consider it inappropriate for me to be here talking to them for an hour and only to look at my ugly face. Well, what happens is that we understand that many people put the video and are listening to us while they are in the office, while they are cooking, while they are restoring furniture or those people who cannot see

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