Trish Jenkins - Your Home Studio On A Budget

Chris Stone [00:00:01]:
Trish has an amazing story. You know, she's got a ministry that she started, I think, from some of the things that she's gone through. But the biggest thing was that she's overcome her fear of technology. She's thriving, and so part of it, she she's gonna talk to us today about how other people can get started with that. But I think even more intriguing is what she went through in her personal life to get here. So, Chris, I think it's about time that we go ahead and bring on someone that actually was incarcerated and has now made it to the big stage on DealCastle five.

Trish Jenkins [00:00:45]:
Hey, fellas.

Jim Fuhs [00:00:46]:
Hey, good afternoon. Hey, sweetheart. That was that pause for US to Australia. It was just sort of like a like a bit of a pregnant pause there. But welcome, and good morning, to you. So, how are how are you doing today? What I mean, did you have to get up, like, extra early for us?

Trish Jenkins [00:01:06]:
Or but I normally get up early. So, g'day, fellas. It's a beautiful day. I'm coming to you probably tomorrow, and we're still here. So it's it's it's Tuesday morning. Beautiful day. I'm I'm often up early because I do a lot to do with The US. So I know.

Trish Jenkins [00:01:23]:
I've already walked the dog, picked up his poop, and I've locked him upstairs. So said to my husband, don't let him down because he'll scratch at the door. He's my head of barking. And thanks to Amazon, I've had to create a mute button on my Stream Deck so that because it's faster because because the truck keeps coming and delivering stuff and it just steps off the dog. So so I was like, quick mute.

Chris Stone [00:01:49]:
Oh, gosh. So so

Jim Fuhs [00:01:52]:
yeah. So in in Australia, I mean, you're you're you're talking about Amazon and and, you know, have things, you know, lightened up a little bit over there? I know, you know, Jim had mentioned when we spoke to Annette not too long ago, and things were still pretty pretty locked down at that at this point. Are you how are things, going over there? Are you guys, loosening up a little bit, or is it still pretty locked down?

Trish Jenkins [00:02:15]:
We were loosened up a bit. It was it was going well, and we're just getting locked down again now, in in a lot of places. We're in, the Southern states are in a bad way. I think there were we have something like, I think, six deaths in the last little while. It's funny. We go into lockdown, and I and I did some numbers, for, for you. And, you know, you guys are are opening up and Britain's you know, The UK is having their freedom day and, with only, you know, 50 something thousand cases for the day. And we get 10, and we're locked out.

Trish Jenkins [00:02:56]:
So, yeah, we're it's very confusing. But lockdown, as tragic as it's been for a lot of people, it was an opportunity that that I I would have no business. And so that's why we essential you could buy essential things. And so for me, that was that was my studio, and that's what I put together here. So

Jim Fuhs [00:03:20]:
Wow. So those are considered essential items. So like a a webcam, a microphone, you could those are

Trish Jenkins [00:03:33]:
ministry. And my ministry's actually expanded, because I've been able to reach more people in more countries just by coming rolling out of bed and coming downstairs than getting on a plane.

Chris Stone [00:03:45]:
It's awesome. And I think that's I think that's amazing, Trish, because I think even for Chris and I, right, we started this show during all of this. You know, Chris and I had met in person a couple times before all this happened. But it probably was several months before we ever, like, got to see each other in person again. And even with that it was masks, it was social distancing, because we do live near each other. But it is interesting, because I feel like we've been able to thrive despite all this. You're another example. But then there's a ton of people that unfortunately, have not been as fortunate and I do I do feel for them.

Chris Stone [00:04:25]:
But I also, you know, you know, kudos, kudos to you for going for it. Right. And, you know, overcoming, you know, some of those things. But I I don't wanna spoil the story. So, why don't we, why don't we get into that? Why don't you tell us how you got to where you are? Because I think I think it's fascinating.

Trish Jenkins [00:04:46]:
Yes. Lucky me. So I was, working for a fellow in, around 02/2004, '2 thousand '5 who I didn't know was actually a crook. He ran a mutual fund, and I was working for him. And what he was actually doing was stealing the investors' money, including my own. I didn't know that he was, and, he so what it turned out to be was a big Ponzi scheme, which, if you don't know, is where you think you're investing your money and getting some money back, but what you're actually getting back is a little bit of your own money, not not actually profit. And, of course, it it it can't sustain itself. It implodes.

Trish Jenkins [00:05:27]:
And, he was doing the wrong thing. And, I got slammed because the whole thing imploded. There was no money, and and I was the one the people were coming to, where's our money? Where's our money? I didn't know what was going on. And, after a few months of people coming to me, emailing, owning, turning up at my house, asking, begging, demanding money, I couldn't take it anymore. And I said to him, look, there's some money over here. Can I use that to pay them? He said, yeah. Yeah. Okay.

Trish Jenkins [00:06:02]:
Do that. So I did. And, as it turns out, that was a breach of the Corporations Act because that money was not meant for that purpose. So, effectively, even though I didn't steal anything, I misused funds. Look. If I could go back and change it, I would. I can't. It's it's just it's it's not something I'm proud of.

Trish Jenkins [00:06:26]:
I don't you know, I'm I'm deeply ashamed, and and I I wish that I could change it, then I can't. However, we've all got things in our past that we can't change, but it's what we do with it that matters. And, so what ended up happening was everything collapsed. We were put into liquidate voluntary liquidation where which is death of a thousand cuts where you everything gets sold up and you have nothing left. And when we had nothing left, then I was prosecuted. And, this all took a few years, and it was 02/2009. January '2 thousand and '9, I front up to court with a financial issue charge. And you might remember a little thing that happened in 02/2008 called the, global financial crisis.

Trish Jenkins [00:07:13]:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. So Muggins comes up to court. And, I don't know whether the magistrate was whether the judge had been an investor or not, but, I got the maximum. And, I could've I could've got a fine, but, I ended up, it was a head sentence of two and a half years. But because I plead guilty, because I was, I served eight months in in prison. And, it wasn't country club prison. There was a few months of that, but I blew that and got got kicked back to the general.

Trish Jenkins [00:07:48]:
So, yeah, general population with, with everybody, all the charming guests of her majesty. And I was one of them. Wow.

Jim Fuhs [00:07:57]:
Wow. That's just so so there was no I mean, even though at this point you could you couldn't, you know, sort of plead ignorance, right? I mean, you were like, there's people that are you know, you didn't know. It didn't it didn't matter. You know, it just was Ignorance. This was this was coming down.

Trish Jenkins [00:08:13]:
Ignorance is not an excuse. Yeah. Right. Ignorance is no excuse under the law. And look, I knew that it wasn't the exact right thing to do. I just didn't realize how serious it was. Right.

Jim Fuhs [00:08:24]:
You know,

Trish Jenkins [00:08:25]:
and I think a lot of people, a lot of business people get into trouble because they're under so much pressure that that it's like, just do this temporarily and to tide me over until things come good and you you just can't. And and that's why I wrote my first two books, on two of my books are on finance. It's on those warning signals. You know, these are the things you need to watch out for so that you don't end up in that sort of position.

Jim Fuhs [00:08:51]:
Yeah. A lot of people, when they're in a situation, like you, where they're incarcerated or, you know, maybe not even something as bad as that, and they hit a turning point. What was it while you were in for eight months at some point? Did you just say, I'm going to do this? Was it after that you got out? Like, what made you write these books and sort of, you know, develop these other things that you're doing, including your ministry and, you know, being an author and a speaker? What sort of were, you know, what was the, I guess, turning point for you?

Trish Jenkins [00:09:25]:
Well, the I guess it's an interesting timeline because legal stuff takes a long time to culminate. And the offense was in 02/2005. We went through a couple of years of liquidation and it was actually then, you know, whenever you go through something tough, the sooner you can look for the lessons, the sooner you can start digging yourself out of that hole of depression and anxiety. Now I still thought those emotions, though those conditions all the way through. But I needed to know how I had missed it. And I was deeply ashamed and, you know, particularly as a Christian, you know, you have these values that are around being, you know, honest and having integrity and I and I had failed. Sure. And I thought, how is it that I got to the point, you know, I'm the sort of person, if someone gives me too much change at the shop, oh, oh, that's 5¢ too much.

Trish Jenkins [00:10:17]:
Here you go, you know, take that back. Sure. And, so I studied it and I met a fellow at a breakfast. I was doing some, I was still working at that point, in sales and I met a fellow who turned out to be an investigator. And it's funny because I said to him, I wish I'd known you, you know, eighteen months ago. And when I told him my story, he said, oh, I know about that fellow. He said, oh my goodness. You know, he he just oh, no.

Trish Jenkins [00:10:48]:
He's he's in with some pretty bad folks and it was, you know, too late. But he helped me. He said to me because I said, look. I'm writing this book on can you give me some tips on what to watch out for in fraud? And he said to me, Trish, can you write your book for women? Because by the time they call me, it's too late. They can't afford me. And so I wrote my first book, but and I didn't publish it straight away, Chris. I didn't, I basically just had it on my computer because I didn't know what was happening with my future. So I had this book on my computer.

Trish Jenkins [00:11:23]:
I went through prison where, once again, writing was therapy for me and I wrote letters and journal entries, about my experience and actually got quite a following there because I I would write letters to my husband and and, I said to him, look, I'm I'm writing these same letters to a handful of our friends. Could I just write one to you, and could take out the bits that are just for you and the girls because we have three little girls. They were they were little at the time. And could you type it out as an email and send it to this handful of people to save me? Because we had to write everything in longhand. You know? You know back in the day when they they used to grow trees and make paper?

Jim Fuhs [00:12:01]:
Oh, yeah.

Trish Jenkins [00:12:02]:
I read those. Yeah. Use a a pen?

Jim Fuhs [00:12:04]:
Did you dip did you dip the feather in the ink before you wrote on the Oh, well, that would be Was it a pen like that?

Trish Jenkins [00:12:13]:
Well, that would be considered a weapon. So

Chris Stone [00:12:16]:
Oh, right. Right.

Trish Jenkins [00:12:17]:
Right. Right. Those. And we didn't quite have crayons. We actually had biros, you know, the pens.

Jim Fuhs [00:12:24]:
Right.

Trish Jenkins [00:12:24]:
Right. But, you know, we could write in longhand. And, so Justin, my beautiful husband who stood by me, he would type out he would laboriously two finger type out these email these letters Mhmm. And they would go out to our friends and family. And we happen to belong to a wonderful, really big church well, not big by American standards. It's, you know, a few thousand people, at CityPoint in Carindale in Brisbane. It's one of the big churches here in Australia, and we were quite well known much to my embarrassment again. And people would ask who I was.

Trish Jenkins [00:13:00]:
And so he'd put them on the list to receive these emails. And these emails went viral because people would share them and on share them and on share them. And so I had this following while I was in prison and receiving letters from people to encourage me. And it was just beautiful and and and, you know, that that's one of my books here now that that I published after I came home. And then I also yeah. When I came home so well, we can explore different aspects of of the story, but, to answer your question for the timeline, I wrote Dangerous Wealth, what every successful woman needs to know to avoid being ripped off. I'd change the name if I did that again too. But in the book for women, while I was, waiting to go to jail, left it on my computer.

Trish Jenkins [00:13:47]:
While I'm in jail, prison actually, because jail and prison are different in America. It was prison proper thing, the proper thing. Mhmm. I didn't know I was writing a book. That was my letters and private journal entries and that's called Treasures of A Prison Journey. And then when I came home, you know, I wanted to put everything behind me. I didn't wanna publish a book because I was so embarrassed. You know, could I write it under someone else's name? No.

Trish Jenkins [00:14:14]:
And I came to the conclusion that the only way to escape my past was to be upfront about it and say, yep. You know, this is it and tell my story. And so I very frightened, very, very hesitantly shared with a couple of people, And, I said, look. I've got this book. And it was a lot of in my town, a lot of the, business groups and women's groups invited me to share my story, and I did and and they were so grateful. They were business people saying, my goodness. Thank you. These checklists, these questions we should ask, they're so helpful.

Trish Jenkins [00:14:53]:
And so it grew from there and my confidence grew. And then I was invited to America for a a conference of, finance people. And I went there, and that turned into a month long tour. And that actually grew my ministry because there was a lot of churches that wanted to hear about how does a Christian oh, and, more embarrassing, pastor's kid. So I mean, right now, some people are thinking, well, that explains that we know what they're like. So, and and so I minister and and my life is based on Romans eight twenty eight, which says, God makes all things work together for our good. It doesn't say it is good. All things are good.

Trish Jenkins [00:15:37]:
But he can make those things work together for good if we see them differently. And, yeah. So that's how that's grown.

Jim Fuhs [00:15:47]:
Yeah. It's that mindset where if you know you're not really in control of of you know, there's only so much that we are in control. One of them is our attitude and our own mindset. Right? Yeah. And so here you are, you know, incarcerated in prison, for something that, no matter if you were, you know, ignorant of the, the financial laws or whatever, you still had to do that had to serve that time. And and like you said, were embarrassed by it. And there's a lot of people that could spiral down into dark places. And, so, you know, in you you knew you were going there.

Jim Fuhs [00:16:28]:
You were you had prepped yourself, but you really didn't know until you got there what it was like, I'm sure.

Trish Jenkins [00:16:34]:
Yeah.

Jim Fuhs [00:16:34]:
Right. And so even then, there were probably some dark times for you. What what, what helped you kind of, you know, keep moving through this even though, I mean, I think everything probably around you was, there was a lot of, deep, dark, types of things going on?

Trish Jenkins [00:16:52]:
Yes. There really were. I it was a long time before I went to prison and didn't know whether I would go or not. And, as it came the time came, I had to make a decision. And, I mean, some people might laugh at me, you know, that that are not believers, but, you know, my my prayers were always, you know, I'm not gonna go to prison, Lord. I thank you for that miracle. And then and then I had to get to the point of surrender and just say, okay, God, I'm gonna trust you. And, I took him with me, you know.

Trish Jenkins [00:17:30]:
So I go in, little Jesus girl goes into prison, and I thought, well, I'm just gonna make a difference. You know? I

Chris Stone [00:17:38]:
just tried

Trish Jenkins [00:17:40]:
to I wanted to pray for everything that moved and and these really scary people. It's one of the, prison chaplains said to me afterwards, she said, I prayed for you so much. I was so scared that you were just gonna get bashed up because you you just had no idea how dangerous some of these people were. And you would just go up to them and say, hi. How are you, Kelly? Clueless. Totally clueless. And and it got me in trouble. I I decided, you know, I I am a faith person.

Trish Jenkins [00:18:14]:
I mean, when I do, regular business talks, you know, that's that's for that. But when it's ministry, that's ministry. And when it's a talk like this, I'll just share my heart with what's what really happened. It's quite funny. But it really was dark. You know? It it, you you cling you you draw on whatever you've got to draw on, whether you're a Buddhist, whether you're a Muslim, whether you're Jewish, whether you're, you know, you, I don't know, you worship animals or forest or whatever. You will go to what works for you, or what you hope does, And this did work for me. Now some of it didn't because it it sort of challenged some of my assumptions that I thought, you know, I'm a good person.

Trish Jenkins [00:18:55]:
I give. This shouldn't have happened to me. Well, you know what? Life happens to everyone. Everyone gets a turn. So there's no use feeling sorry. Look. One thing I learned is that your biggest enemy that you must be ruthless with is self pity. The second you start feeling sorry for yourself.

Trish Jenkins [00:19:18]:
Look. You can have a little pity part that I must admit there have been days where I just wanted to go to bed and not come not get out again. But you have to recognize that and get a And and this is what I do in in the, business talks that I do for corporations. When I talk about resilience and mindset, I talk about catching what's going on in here and reframing it and giving people tools to lift out or at least recognize and prevent. So if you know the warning signals of fraud, you can spot them. If you know the warning signals of anxiety and depression and what's going on in your life, you can intercept them. You can. And that's what I learned how to do.

Trish Jenkins [00:20:00]:
Another thing that I realized very quickly was as a society, we have this us and them mentality. You know, there there's people like us in whatever category we happen to be in, and then there's them. You know, there's in America, it's very politically polarized. If you're with us if you're not with us, you're against us and, you know, men and women and all this stuff. And, what I realized was when I looked down at what I was wearing, it was the same uniform as what Bing Bertha was wearing. You know? We were we were all there. Everyone had done different things, but I was now them. You know, I came from a respectable middle class, I would say now very privileged.

Trish Jenkins [00:20:48]:
I didn't think I was privileged, but I know how privileged I am now. And there I was among them. And, I started to see people I see beyond this year. And that's what I would encourage people to do is is don't look at the label, look past it, and and and see the person. Look behind how they look and and actually see them and care about them. And my heart you know, my my heart just turned inside out, and I have a compassion for people that gives me a connection and and there's a joy in connecting with someone even when you're suffering together, when you're sitting down on a concrete floor with caging around you and you can bring a word of comfort to someone or just hold their hand and say, I'm so sorry you're not getting your kids back. You know? What do you do with that? You know? And and, I got in trouble a lot, for because I was clueless. You know? Double walk on the grass.

Trish Jenkins [00:22:01]:
Why not? It's it's and and then of course I would, yeah, Jesus got me in trouble a lot because I I just didn't get it. I just, you know, you're not supposed to you're not supposed to, comfort someone when they're upset. You're supposed to report it so they can be monitored, stuff like that. I just it's a whole I would yeah. It was It was just It was like the twilight zone for anybody who's old enough to remember that, where they'd have a scenario where the rules just didn't didn't make any sense.

Jim Fuhs [00:22:39]:
Right.

Trish Jenkins [00:22:40]:
Yeah.

Jim Fuhs [00:22:41]:
And I I love how, you're you're I mean, you're obviously a person of faith, and and you, you have, you know, a certain, belief system, and and those that don't will put you in a box. Right? So Yeah. So if they if they find out that you may be a Christian or or whatever, they're going to think, well, this person is going to try to sell me or they're going to try to convert me or whatever. But that's not that's not the way you went about it. You were like, you know what? I'm gonna show love to someone. I'm going to meet this person where they're at. And no matter what they might think about what a person of faith is, and maybe historically, they've had that, those experiences with people who who did it the wrong way. But you said, You know what? We're here.

Jim Fuhs [00:23:29]:
We're all in the same place. We're all humans. We're all at this level, and you're gonna meet everyone at that level and show love to those people. And I think that right there is really what it's about, regardless of whether, you know, your belief system, how you were brought up, it's like start there. Yeah. Then things become better from that point, right?

Trish Jenkins [00:23:51]:
Yeah, it's about connection. Although, you're making me look better than what I was.

Jim Fuhs [00:23:57]:
Okay. That's my job.

Trish Jenkins [00:23:59]:
Thanks, man. No. Look. I have to admit. And and when people read my book, they're gonna find out, yeah, she did try to convert everybody. I thought, right. This is my this was my coping. I I gotta get everybody saved.

Trish Jenkins [00:24:13]:
I gotta get them all saved. I gotta I gotta pray for everything that goes. And, when that didn't work, I mean, it worked with a with a few people. I it was like there was a breaking down of me and that religiosity, and this is what I do when I for those who are believers and and who you may you may think you're being persecuted, but really you're just being a pain in the backside to someone and and you're just copying what what anybody would who's being obnoxious. You know, just pull back and care about them and that's shifting. And you can see it happening as you read the book. And I was quite surprised because I last year I did an online challenge to get my courage up where you had to do something online everyday life. And I went, I know.

Trish Jenkins [00:25:00]:
I'll I'll I just read from my book. So people, go to my YouTube channel, they'll be able to actually see quite a lot of, short videos of me reading aloud from my book sitting in this chair. And I watched that progression change from being you know, it's kinda like people would rather be right than get it right. And so I would hope that now, you know, the transformation for me was dropping all of that and just caring about someone. And then as the conversation opens up, if it's appropriate, then share and pray for someone. But, you know, your show's not about it's not a religious show. It's not about spouting that stuff. It's just that's just who I was and and am, when the time is right, the people are open to it.

Trish Jenkins [00:25:50]:
So look past it. And when you care about someone, then they might give you the right to speak to them.

Chris Stone [00:25:59]:
I think that's that's a very powerful message. And I think it's so true, I think, right? Sometimes we want to change people. And think that or, you know, even like you said, we think that's what, you know, God wants us to do. And it's like, no, just be good to people. And when they're ready, they they're the ones that are going to make the change. You know, it's like with our kids sometimes, like, we get so upset with our kids because we want them to do certain things. And at some point, you just have to step back and say, you know what? They're gonna make their own decisions. I gotta love them regardless of of that and hope that they make the the right choices because we set a good example for them.

Chris Stone [00:26:39]:
So, Trish, you know, it's it's amazing what you went through. And of course, you've got these handcuffs sitting over there on the table. And so we've gotta gotta talk about that.

Trish Jenkins [00:26:50]:
From Amazon. So this is one of my stage props when I when I give a talk. And and as I say, if someone's out there watching and you're in the corporate world, don't worry. I'm there. The brief you give me is what I'll share. I'm, you know, I'm not gonna go I'm not gonna give an altar call. People can get in touch with me afterwards for that. But, yeah, this is the thing.

Trish Jenkins [00:27:12]:
I love these because they're a great illustration that, you know, it's like the strongest prison bars, the things that bind us are in here. And so, you know, that's what I love the visual of because it's like, yeah, they're big chunky chains. And, but really, they're plastic and they're really light, and they're easy to throw off. So, you know, it's a good metaphor for you. That's it. Yeah.

Chris Stone [00:27:44]:
And and so you you started the so once you got through all this and and like, you know, even more so last year, you had another challenge, like now, how do I share my story when I'm in a sense, in a, I guess you could say we were all in a sense, we're in a metaphorical prison of we couldn't leave our house. Now how am I gonna survive?

Trish Jenkins [00:28:06]:
Exactly. Exactly. Because you don't have to go to prison to feel trapped. But once again, it is all in her you see things. You know, that that your family you know? You love your family and they love you. They don't desue. You know? So often people think that, well, I can I can fall to pieces and have a temper tantrum because they love me? They they just have to put up with it. They don't.

Trish Jenkins [00:28:38]:
They don't. You you need to remember that you love them. You know, my husband stood by me. He could have said, they're not touching my houses because we were actually quite well off. We'd we'd done the thing during another boom where you, you know, buy a house, pretty it up, get the get the, equity, get another one, and so on. He could have said, see you later, love. You're on your own, and I'm taking the kids. Could have.

Trish Jenkins [00:29:07]:
I don't know whether I would have coped as well if that had happened. I don't know. I don't I really wouldn't have, but he stood by me. And I fell in love with him all over again because of that. And I made I was very conscious and deliberate in my decision on on how I would treat him through that difficult time. I was not gonna take it out on him even though everything in me wanted to scream and cry. So I'd go for a drive and park in a car park deserted somewhere and scream and cry and pray and pull myself together and come back. I did go to the doctors and get some medication for my my I was just so just I couldn't even think straight.

Trish Jenkins [00:29:54]:
And that helps. Sometimes you need that that help. Was when I came home, you know, I thought I'd done very well. And when I came home, it was like I I exhaled and fell into pieces and needed to be picked up again. And and it's very important to be gentle with yourself and look for the good and, beware of you know, there's a there's a concept I talk about called your mental ecosystem, Whether you're in lockdown or anywhere else, that an ecosystem is a delicate balance and you get some poison into that pond, it's gonna go through the fish, through everything else, through the bigger fish, and it's gonna make everything toxic. Right? So Right. Your mental ecosystem has things flowing in through your eye gate, your ear gate, goes down into your into your guts and into your belly, and then comes out of your mouth. It messes with what's going on in your head.

Trish Jenkins [00:30:56]:
You have got to be very, very careful about the things that you feed on that you allow into that system. If you're constantly watching YouTube videos about conspiracy theories, it's gonna mess you up. But, yes, be informed, but you don't need to be informed about every little thing that's going on. Be very aware of of the biases that your demographic has and why you align with it. Just be you know, I'm a Christian, but I don't agree with everything that a conservative government might put out just because some of their values match mine because some of the other side matches mine more, particularly because of the experience I've been through. So, you know, very important to keep this going. And when you're in lockdown, feed on healthy things. I would suggest, music, like, I I will come this is my this room is in my this is my garage.

Trish Jenkins [00:32:02]:
You wouldn't know, but this is my garage and my cars are behind this wall.

Jim Fuhs [00:32:06]:
It's a pretty good looking garage, Trish.

Chris Stone [00:32:08]:
Yeah?

Jim Fuhs [00:32:08]:
Isn't it great?

Trish Jenkins [00:32:09]:
Well, thanks to LockDown. I'm not a Right. You know, I can I'll I'll when there when you're ready, I'll I'll share a bit about about the garage, but put music, you know, you know, Elton John had that song about play those sad songs. Don't play the sad songs. Don't play the sad songs.

Jim Fuhs [00:32:28]:
Sad songs say so much. You're so Yeah.

Trish Jenkins [00:32:30]:
They yeah. They say top yourself. Go on. It's not worth living. Don't do that. Don't play the stuff, you know, play the songs like, you know, I love to Google I just put into Google, you know, praise and worship music or instrumental praise and worship or inspiring music. You know, songs that inspire, they're good. And the languaging that we use that we can turn and this is what I I teach people to do is to reframe, rephrase the sorts of language they do.

Trish Jenkins [00:33:01]:
Just simple things like, oh, I can't afford it. No. That's not in the budget right now, but I could if I wanted to. You know, because we all can. Anything we really want, we can get. And using words that build people up and pulling back. You said, oh, they just get on my nerves. You know? It's all in how you look at them.

Trish Jenkins [00:33:23]:
I would often there there's three questions that I talk about in in my presentations, and it's asking yourself, how else can I see this person? How else can I see the situation? And how else can I be? Who am I being in this? You know, am I being my best self? You know, give us give them some grace, give yourself some grace. And, you might be in lockdown, but can you can you go into your backyard and stand on some grass barefoot? Maybe not in winter. Yeah. There was a when I was in prison, there was, there would be a concrete yard attached to the building and there'd be a basketball hoop at one end and the phone at this end and some benches you could sit on. And the caging around us was like I imagine you have it the same in America where it's like that reinforcement for concrete. You know, it's like squares, mesh. Mhmm. That was the caging.

Trish Jenkins [00:34:24]:
That was what the fencing around us.

Chris Stone [00:34:27]:
Wow.

Trish Jenkins [00:34:27]:
And I remember sitting on the ground and there were cracks in the concrete and there was some little bits of grass growing through, just a few sparse sort of blades of grass and I would sit down and I would stroke it. Just go, wow. And I would just give myself to that moment of the beauty and the courage and the persistence of this grass that had cracked through concrete. You know, finding little things that you can focus on that give you pleasure and that bring hope. You know? Call me corny. Yeah. But if being exposed No.

Jim Fuhs [00:35:03]:
I think it's yeah. I think that's I think that's you know, if if you could just have a if a little of that, you know, because I think you you just to go back to the mental ecosystem that you're talking about, you know, I'm I'm probably aging myself right now, Trish, and I know you you're a lot younger than I am. But, you know, in the middle, things are endless. We have you can thumb scroll through anything, whether it's YouTube or Instagram or whatever, and it's endless. The algorithm will continue to feed and feed and feed you until you pass out from hunger or or sleep or or, you know, whatever is gonna overtake you. And you have to you have to be aware and intentional and say, listen, I'm only going to give myself, you know, whether it's, you know, any type of the millions of television subscription services that you can buy that will continue to to feed your you know, it's it's okay to unplug your your brain for a little bit and have that's healthy to kind of, like, you know, take a little bit of a, you know, a fun. But if you're going into these places that aren't good for you and you just let it before you know it, it can just kinda creep in the back door. And it's like, how many hours have I been, you know, like, in in the case you were talking about watching these conspiracy theory things or or whatever, and you're going to eventually it's going to affect you in some way.

Jim Fuhs [00:36:31]:
And so it's, how do you how do you work with people to maybe set some stops for them to themselves to be able to to get themselves back on the track on track and and get away from that, you know, endless thumb scroll?

Trish Jenkins [00:36:46]:
Well well, you've just said it. You said they they need to set some stops. You know, that that you you might give you set an alarm on your phone if you need to, but it's more so much about not even stop it. Like, you know, have a time limit, but find something better. So you're not just starving yourself of that habit of scrolling. Actually find something else to do. You know, I remember when people used to do gardening. You know, they there there are hobbies that you can do that don't involve a screen and they're good for you.

Trish Jenkins [00:37:20]:
There's knitting. There's there's craft. Also well, if, you know, if you wanna be online, have a live stream like we have because I I know you wanted to, ask me about my studio and the equipment because we did say studio on a budget. And for me, it was a budget because, you know, it's your business when you're shifting to online and our other business that my husband did, which was selling solar panels, you know, that was affected. So, you know, we had to be innovative and do things on a budget, but, you know, you you find other things to do. And, in fact, here's a romance tip for people, and I've said this to my daughters. I said, you know, you might find that opposites attract And if they do, because often it's the case, then my husband and I are very different. So our common our things that we do in common, the overlap of the Venn diagram is quite slim.

Trish Jenkins [00:38:14]:
So what you wanna do together while you're courting is there's an old fashioned word for you. Yeah. Courting.

Jim Fuhs [00:38:21]:
I like that.

Trish Jenkins [00:38:22]:
But and and there's so many resources online you can look up for activities that you may have no clue that you would actually enjoy. Oh, no. I wouldn't like going fishing or I wouldn't like rock climbing or I wouldn't like that, but you don't know till you till you try it. So expand your circle of things to do so that you can do them together. So your your little Venn diagram has a bigger overlap. And that actually makes you a more interesting person so that if you do wanna do something online, you are not boring. You're not just betting on about one thing and being obnoxious just online. Have something interesting to talk about.

Trish Jenkins [00:39:01]:
And then when when I talk to my guests on my show on Trish TV, it I I can actually ask them about what they're doing and draw them out just like you are with me. People are much more interesting than they think they are. Well, they you know, well

Chris Stone [00:39:16]:
Very true. So so, Trish, because because I know you're wanting to talk about it. So what was the process that you went through to build your studio? Because you you're not just the one look that we're seeing right now. You realized that you needed to develop different looks for different things.

Trish Jenkins [00:39:34]:
Yes. Well, look, I did invest in a couple of courses, and, to do with, you know, how to do video. But, really, the main thing is you wanna have a good webcam. So and I've got a Logitech nine twenty two. I think that's what it's called. You have one of those. What I have behind me, this blue this blue is curtain material. It looks

Jim Fuhs [00:40:09]:
good. Pinned up It does.

Trish Jenkins [00:40:11]:
Thumbtacks. You can see one of the thumbtacks. See that dot right there just above the plant? Mhmm. That's a thumbtack in my wall. And, so I brought the chair from upstairs and behind the chair is a little side table with a light on it, throwing light up onto the blue. This is my my grandmother's table that, that I have and, little plastic plant from the store. What else? Oh, and and the decorations you see on this side, I just flogged them off my my my daughter's room. I just pinched them from her.

Trish Jenkins [00:40:50]:
And I put some, furnishings around. You wanna have some furnishings, you know, to to absorb the sound. And, I my favorite store was, was the hardware store. So, you know, where I'd get bits of wood for my over this side, I'll show you is my stand up studio. Shall I shall I move the camera and show everybody now? Sure.

Jim Fuhs [00:41:10]:
Yeah. Yeah. Sure.

Trish Jenkins [00:41:12]:
Would you like to? So over here is my stand up area. So that big piece of blue is the same material. And I went to a shop called Bunnings, which is, it's a hardware store. And I got them to cut the strips of wood for me, and I brought them home, and and I just used a staple gun. You can see the bottom of the material, it looks like a staple gun's attacked it. So that's what it did. And that's my stat. Now I did buy quite a few things that it turns out I didn't need, and there's the spaghetti spaghetti of cords all down there.

Trish Jenkins [00:41:44]:
But that's my that's still those two silver tables from Amazon, is what I use. I've got and the orange box like thing under the light, that's actually an empty shoe box where I purchased my other laptop, and the light is a is what's called a cowboy light or a or a soft box. I prefer those. And I have one behind me here, but it's a bit bright if I show you. See, look, there you are. Right. And I have these cords. Now I have a tripod there with a second camera on.

Trish Jenkins [00:42:14]:
Tell you what else I bought from Amazon were a couple of, I bought a couple of, Apple, sevens.

Chris Stone [00:42:24]:
Okay.

Trish Jenkins [00:42:24]:
So that I could use them as cameras. So sometimes, as you can see, I've got, I've got the the whiteboard just here. So I can do a digital whiteboard on the screen, but sometimes it's nice to get some thick pens and paper. And so I have a I have this tripod here just there in the in the middle pointing at the whiteboard so I can stand there and draw or I can go further over to the third tripod. And you get the tripod on Amazon. So, you know, I get my tripod on Amazon and I can switch between cameras using my

Jim Fuhs [00:43:02]:
Straight back.

Trish Jenkins [00:43:04]:
I love this. And, when I'm as I said, just the other day when the dog barked, I I was on a Zoom and I thought, oh, where's my mouse? Grabbed the mouse. Oh, where's the where's the microphone picture of the button? Oh, I've gotta zoom click that. Oh, I gotta click it. So there's, like, three steps to to silence my dog. And so so I set up a button to mute my microphone. And as soon as he he looked like he was he was going, and I went bang. And they they couldn't hear him.

Trish Jenkins [00:43:36]:
So now

Jim Fuhs [00:43:37]:
I'm looking That's so smart. You know, and a lot of people, they think when they see, you know, a YouTube channel like yours or, a live stream like this or or a lot of things, and they see, you know, all of this stuff that's that is visible to them. You know, you've got the you know, I've got these plaques and guitars hanging behind me. You've got all of that nice stuff that you you know, but I turn this camera, like, one foot over here, and it's a it's a horror show over here. I'm not you know, it's like, I I I'm afraid to even I'm afraid to even look over there, let alone step. But it's not none of that stuff that you mentioned was expensive. No. And I think a lot of people a lot of people don't realize, like and just an iPhone has a great camera in it, and there's a few things that you can do, that you can use for that.

Jim Fuhs [00:44:25]:
And it can be a webcam. If a webcam is in HD and, like you said, the the Logitech nine twenty two x that you've got, like, these are things that you can within a budget, if you go if you're at a if you got a tight budget and you're like, you know what? I can only spend, you know, x amount, you know, you can find things that work, that work relatively well. And then when you when you become, like, you know, the superstar that Trish Jenkins is, you know, then you could then then the money, you know, then you can say, okay, you know, now I want to level up and get a mirrorless camera or, some other switcher or or whatever.

Trish Jenkins [00:45:03]:
You mean like you you mean you mean like like the Stream Deck XL?

Jim Fuhs [00:45:10]:
Oh, look at that. You got

Chris Stone [00:45:11]:
a she's moving it. Leveling up.

Trish Jenkins [00:45:14]:
That I had this set up because I want a little button.

Chris Stone [00:45:19]:
That's okay. I I have one, and Chris does too. In fact, I waited because I'm like, I didn't wanna have the smaller button and say, gosh. I wish I had the one with more buttons. So Oh,

Trish Jenkins [00:45:29]:
yeah. Went with the

Chris Stone [00:45:30]:
more buttons right away.

Trish Jenkins [00:45:31]:
Very good. And remember, you know, bear in mind, when I said the iPhone, it was an iPhone seven Right. Last year. Right. I don't want a better camera than that. You don't need to be seeing too much detail here. The older I get I feel

Jim Fuhs [00:45:52]:
the same way.

Trish Jenkins [00:45:53]:
Yeah. The older I get, the older the camera I want. You're saying?

Jim Fuhs [00:46:01]:
Well, if

Chris Stone [00:46:01]:
it makes you feel any better too, Trish, my brick wall behind me is held up by, pins as well. So it's not real.

Trish Jenkins [00:46:09]:
Might have been virtual. Yeah. And I see people with the virtual It's vinyl. But look, all you need is a little space. You don't need to have a standup area. You can just put your camera on a tripod and move it up and stand up, which is what I wanna And these soft boxes are beautiful lights and they're not expensive. Mhmm. You know, these ring lights sometimes ring lights can be annoying, especially if you wear glasses.

Trish Jenkins [00:46:34]:
So, you know, you wanna have soft, good, well, I mean, I have great lighting here and it wasn't expensive. So you can do

Chris Stone [00:46:43]:
And are you are those soft boxes, are those LED lights so it doesn't get too hot?

Trish Jenkins [00:46:48]:
Yes. Yep. They're they're like a spiral inside them, but they're the original lights. I haven't had to replace them. And I I had them I didn't buy them last year. I had them when I used to do photography, long, long time ago, and I just pulled them out of the the storage and set them up. But tripods are cheap now. I I mean, I've got a really expensive tripod from when I used to do photography.

Trish Jenkins [00:47:10]:
And when I wanted another one, I just went online and you can find them, like, just make sure you get the size right because you want a tall one, and you wanna get the little clamps. They're only about a dollar, little clamps that hold your your camera in place, on top of the tripod. So you get the tripod, it has a little plate, then you have a clamp that clamps around your phone. I mean, the they're purpose building, things for phones and so, you know, and and look, I've got one of these, but I don't even use it. You know?

Jim Fuhs [00:47:41]:
Oh, yeah.

Chris Stone [00:47:42]:
A little ring light. Right?

Trish Jenkins [00:47:43]:
Yeah. So and it's got a it's got a light on it, but, I mean, I use it sometimes. Like, if I'm if it's getting late in the afternoon and I'm feeling like I look a little haggy, then, I'll I'll put a bit of light in, you know, so I can freshen up a little bit, you know?

Jim Fuhs [00:48:01]:
Yeah. So it's like when, when Jim and I were, first going live on Amazon, we found out that, they we could only go live at 07:20 p and not, you know, ten eighty p or or four k. And there was a lot of people complaining, and then Jim and I were like, I think we're okay with it because, you know, they're gonna see less rain wrinkles. And, like, who's gonna really be able to tell tell the difference anyway? But but, Trish, I you know, this our show is really about what we're talking about, and that is, you know, a lot of people will think, you know, inevitably in the businesses that, Jim and I have and and likely yours as well is that, you know, the conversation will end up talking about gear. And people like, the eyes glaze over when you start, you know, putting out numbers and start talking about different things and suggestions and all of that. But, you know, what if you were you know, what would you say to someone who's watching the show right now that's maybe thinking about going live, and, they're thinking about, you know, a particular show that they've got or a particular message that they have to say or a story that they wanna tell, the world. But maybe they're they they've got some mind junk going on, and it might be tech or it might just be whether or not they think that their show is, is good enough, as compared to to others. What would you what would you say to someone that's, watching or or listening to the show?

Trish Jenkins [00:49:25]:
Oh, I'm so glad you asked me that because I've been there and I can help. So I started off when I was terrified. I just did little Facebook live streams to friends, you know, that in a in a safe place and maybe even just in a little group, just practicing just in a little group. And I did, buy some, you know, do some courses to help me improve, and and get my my my set and and so on. But you know what? And I was trying to think of the lady who wrote for the name of the book, but there's a lady who wrote a book called Everything is Figure Out a Book. And I just love that. Everything is Figure Out a Book, and it you don't have to know it all in one day. And and here's some wisdom that my dad gave me.

Trish Jenkins [00:50:16]:
And he said to me, Trish, when all else fails, read the instructions. So they

Chris Stone [00:50:27]:
I think that message was for guys even more so because guys are always famous for not reading the instructions.

Trish Jenkins [00:50:32]:
But it Right. You know, I would get soft how many pieces of software have you bought and you haven't wanted to bother going through? They will have a hundred start here with this little short video, click here, click there. This is how you, you know, just just take allocate some time and and step through. Now, you know, I have my stand up studio and this studio. This morning, I had a glitch. I'm using some new software, which is a virtual oh, what is it? A banana something. Anyway, it's it's it's you put multiple sounds in and they all come out the one area. Well, when I went to test it this morning, no sound coming out.

Trish Jenkins [00:51:13]:
I'm like, I'm getting into doo doo doo. Hang on. Okay. Everything is figureoutable. And so I actually because I have two of everything, and you don't have to have two, but it is good to have some spares. I switched out the laptops, and and plugged everything back in again. So, you know, is anybody gonna die if you get it wrong? Well, if they are, then, yeah, maybe you should stress out. But if they're not, you know, if you fluff it, you can delete it.

Trish Jenkins [00:51:42]:
You can just go back and delete it. You know, you're having a go. I look. I do wanna suggest if you're going to deliver a message, check what's behind you. We don't wanna see your undies on the doorknob behind you, really. Put your pants on if you're gonna be standing up, ew. You know, keep it simple and clean. You want lighting.

Trish Jenkins [00:52:03]:
You do want clear sound. I use a little Rode where are we? Here. Hang on. Pull it out a bit. I've gotta take this off. There's my little Rode microphone. Mhmm. And I've got some speakers behind, but you don't even need that.

Trish Jenkins [00:52:16]:
You can just use you can just use your on camera stuff as long as people can hear you, but, yep, practice. You you can. And, you know, I used to think I was not good at technology and then I stopped going, hang on, Trish. At at what point we we we don't need to see ourselves as though we're still in the fourth grade when we're in the seventh grade. But often because we're learning, learning, learning, learning, we we think, oh, yeah. I'm I'm still learning. I'm still not good at it. But you know what? You turn around and look at what you have done.

Chris Stone [00:52:46]:
Mhmm.

Trish Jenkins [00:52:47]:
You you you can do it. It's all it's all in here. And don't say, I'm not good at technology. You know? A 15 year old, you say, I I or a 12 year old, we don't expect them to be able to drive a car, but when the time comes, they're not 20 driving around saying, oh, I'm not a good driver. They've learned.

Jim Fuhs [00:53:06]:
Yeah. Everything is figureoutable. I love that. I'm gonna use I'm totally going to steal that, Trish. But you're with me, I think.

Trish Jenkins [00:53:13]:
It's, you know, I'd have to

Jim Fuhs [00:53:17]:
Oh, it's the, yes, it's the author that said that. But I, you know, it's so true because people think when they see something that they can get that immediately, and but they don't know that whoever they're seeing, watching had developed whatever talent or whatever technology or whatever knowledge they had, it took time for them to do that. And it's okay for you to get some knowledge. And there is a bit of a fast track because you can go to YouTube University and, you know, watch a few things and know enough to be dangerous and get going, but you're not gonna immediately be, you know, knocking out the world, on your first livestream. But the good news is your second livestream's gonna be better.

Trish Jenkins [00:53:59]:
It is. And it's great. And then you'll be better than that. Your fifth one, you'll bomb out again and go, what the heck went wrong? And so you just go back and do it again. And I looked up that author. It it it is, Marie Forleo because I I wanna make sure I credit that. Marie Forleo. And also, you know, find a 20 year old kid to help you.

Trish Jenkins [00:54:22]:
You know, my daughters are now when I went to prison, my daughters were 10 and the twin girls were seven, Lizzie and Olivia and Chelsea. And today, the twins are 19. So I I have access to all these young people. And can you help me? Yeah. I can help you, missus Jenkins. Yeah. I can you know, so, you know, it's it's you know, and and they they want to. They want to and and they love it.

Trish Jenkins [00:54:48]:
I'm still struggling with Instagram because I'm not very consistent. I have these, you know, horizontal video interviews in in you know? No. That's what I wanna do. I wanna have an Amazon channel. Apparently, I don't have enough subscribers yet, so maybe you could ask people to subscribe to my YouTube channel to help me out.

Jim Fuhs [00:55:08]:
Let's do it. What's give us the, give us the YouTube channel. Is it Trish Jenkins?

Trish Jenkins [00:55:13]:
Yep. That's it. It's just youtube.com/trishjenkins. That's the URL. Look me up in there and, you know, like, subscribe. And you know what? You can you can even sit down and watch me read my book to you, and you'll get some of the background of what was happening at the time. But if not, yep, that's right. I actually have two.

Trish Jenkins [00:55:32]:
I've got one that's, the ministry one as well, but you can you can find that as well. But, And

Chris Stone [00:55:37]:
you and you have a dot live now too. Right?

Trish Jenkins [00:55:40]:
I do. I I haven't done anything with it yet, but I'm not quite sure what to do with it yet. But, when I saw you guys talking about it, I got my trishjenkins. Live, and,

Jim Fuhs [00:55:51]:
When we get you live on Amazon, and

Trish Jenkins [00:55:54]:
That's what I wanna do.

Jim Fuhs [00:55:55]:
And that that's what we'll, we'll, you know, TrishJenkins. Live. So everybody can go there now and just bookmark it. So when, when she does go live on Amazon, you're you're already gonna have a gazillion followers. How's that?

Trish Jenkins [00:56:06]:
Woah, woah, woah, woah, that'll be so good. I, yeah, I I really wanna do that because I wanna be able to support other people. I wanna do interviews with people who might have, they might be authors and then people can just click and buy their book. So, you know, I'm in groups with other authors.

Chris Stone [00:56:22]:
So

Trish Jenkins [00:56:22]:
yeah. And if anyone out there is is with either with a church or, another organization where you want a motivational speaker who can really help equip people get out of the funk that they that they might be in with an interesting story, pick me. I'm very entertaining.

Jim Fuhs [00:56:40]:
There's your gal. That's right. Well, you've made some fans today. We've we've got some the the chat has been lively. I know, Scott Ayers from livestreams, Labs has chimed in a number of of times and really is wanting to have you on his show. Yep. And so, you know, he's he's he's mentioned here in the chat, he's a very strong reformed evangelical Christian, but so relates to what you're saying to people, especially in 2021 is more about lifestyle than shoving stuff down people's throats.

Trish Jenkins [00:57:14]:
It is.

Jim Fuhs [00:57:14]:
So, yeah.

Trish Jenkins [00:57:15]:
So, can I push the friendship, and do one thing to to there's one thing that I I've learned to do that is just amazing in lockdown that makes people feel good? Okay. So a friend of mine is, a woman on her own. She has two cats, and she was in lockdown. She had to work from home. She had nobody. So we had lunch. Wanna encourage people, have virtual lunches with people. And I said, I want to hug you and I can't.

Trish Jenkins [00:57:43]:
And she said, I know. I wish I could hug you. Now don't worry. I'm not laying hands on people, but I do when I do this, but this is what you can do. You wanna connect. If you're lonely and on your own out there and you're feeling despair and you might even might be someone out there who's thinking, I just wanna end it all or whatever. Sorry to bring it down or in, but it's gonna end up good. If you put your arms around yourself, I'm going to reach is this okay, dude? Is this too weird or is this just say it's because she's not going in.

Trish Jenkins [00:58:11]:
It's weird.

Jim Fuhs [00:58:13]:
No. It's not weird. Good.

Trish Jenkins [00:58:14]:
This is what I do with people some

Jim Fuhs [00:58:16]:
Are we supposed to be doing it too, Trish? What did you

Trish Jenkins [00:58:18]:
want to do? Do you wanna hug? I know she's sort of corny, but, you know, she's No. It's alright. I'm not I'm not a fella, so you don't have to feel uncomfortable. So It feels pretty good. It feels good. Now just close your eyes. I am reaching through the screen, through the virtual world, and connecting overseas over the waters. What you're feeling now are my arms, my hands, and that warmth is from me.

Trish Jenkins [00:58:51]:
You matter. I care about you, and you're loved, and you are valuable. And just feel my hug. Squeeze. Feel that oxytocin release. And when you're ready, just when you're ready, just release. That's how I hung people online. And you can feel it.

Trish Jenkins [00:59:22]:
That's right.

Jim Fuhs [00:59:24]:
Yeah. That's that's that's much better, I think, than any other hug I've gotten virtually.

Trish Jenkins [00:59:31]:
Yeah. You don't have to worry about wandering canyons or inappropriateness or anything like that. You know? Right. Stop that.

Jim Fuhs [00:59:37]:
Exactly. Don't have

Chris Stone [00:59:38]:
to wear a mask

Jim Fuhs [00:59:39]:
to get that hug.

Trish Jenkins [00:59:40]:
You're done. No. And I just think there there might be one or two people on there that that needed that, though. So everybody had to go.

Chris Stone [00:59:48]:
Awesome. That's awesome.

Trish Jenkins [00:59:51]:
Oh, it's been such a pleasure. Thank you for being so good to me.

Jim Fuhs [00:59:55]:
It's it's been a pleasure, for us as well, Trish. Thank you so much for, for spending time, with us. And, you know, I hope, you know, your story, has helped someone else. I know that, you know, for for I, you know, I can't speak for Jim, but, I go ahead I I will go ahead and say that your your story, has definitely touched us. And, for those who are still watching and listening, make sure you pick up Trish's book, Treasures of Darkness, but she's also got Weapons of Cash Destruction, which apparently is the male version of dangerous wealth, as as well. Even the branding

Chris Stone [01:00:34]:
colors, right? She she was all all over that, right?

Jim Fuhs [01:00:37]:
Look at that.

Trish Jenkins [01:00:38]:
Branding it, right? Yeah. That's what getting ripped off in finance and relationships. So

Jim Fuhs [01:00:44]:
All I see in the middle one is the word cash and fire. And so, like, that's that's a great marketing, cover for sure.

Chris Stone [01:00:56]:
Oh. I could use that fire right now to get rid of that wasp nest. But

Jim Fuhs [01:01:01]:
Right. Awesome. Good stuff. Well, thanks again, Trish. And, Jim,

Chris Stone [01:01:07]:
you wanna sign us off? Yeah. Trish, thanks again for for joining us. And, folks, we'll we don't have an exact date on our next show, but it will be soon. Make sure you follow us at, dealcasters.live, and that way you'll know when we go live. And, Trish, once again, thank you, Chris. Great to be back on set. It's been been a week. Right? But, no.

Chris Stone [01:01:30]:
We we, we did get to see each other in real life. That was a lot of fun. We'll have to do that again soon as well. And hope that our friends from Australia can soon leave the country to visit other places.

Trish Jenkins [01:01:42]:
Oh, I can't wait. I'm I'm so looking forward to sorry. If anyone wants to get in touch with me, they can. Through how do they how do you get them in touch with me?

Chris Stone [01:01:52]:
However you would like them to get in touch with you. Yeah.

Trish Jenkins [01:01:54]:
So my email is just my name, trish@trishjenkins.com.au. So the AU for Australia, but or or just contact these guys, and and they'll put you in touch. But, yeah, happy to be in touch and like my page, my voice.

Chris Stone [01:02:10]:
Yes.

Jim Fuhs [01:02:10]:
Subscribe. Right. Yes. Definitely head to head to the YouTube channel and Yeah.

Trish Jenkins [01:02:15]:
You can message me through that too, I think.

Jim Fuhs [01:02:17]:
Did I get that right with the email address? Trishatrice

Trish Jenkins [01:02:20]:
ken dot com. Au.

Jim Fuhs [01:02:23]:
Lots of dots there. Yeah. Some extra dots.

Trish Jenkins [01:02:27]:
Yeah. I couldn't get the .com because it was someone else in America, Trishjenkins Dot Com. Or the live streaming. So, look, thanks so much, fellas. It was great fun showing off my-

Chris Stone [01:02:42]:
And you still have the whole rest of your day I interview because it's Tuesday.

Trish Jenkins [01:02:48]:
It's Tuesday morning, quarter to nine, so this has been the highlight of my day so far. It's all downhill from here. No. No. It's motivating me fresh. This is great.

Chris Stone [01:03:01]:
Awesome. Alright.

Jim Fuhs [01:03:02]:
Thanks again. Trish. Alright, everyone. As always, don't fear the gear.

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