Sept. 8, 2025

🎙️ When the Big Break Breaks…Nothing

🎙️ When the Big Break Breaks…Nothing

đź‘‹Hey there Podcaster!

Last week on our Podcasting Morning Chat, we wrestled with what happens when the “big break” falls flat, spotlighting Amy McNee’s much-hyped Jay Shetty interview that delivered none of the promised fame; we also dove into the rise of Fable, a platform some call the “AI Netflix,” where fans can co-create shows, rewrite endings, and challenge the very idea of authorship; and of course, we rounded things out with our usual PMC highlights stats, strategies, and the stories every podcaster needs to stay sharp and inspired.

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🎙️ When the Big Break Breaks…Nothing

What if the biggest stage of your career did absolutely nothing for you?

That’s exactly what happened to author and creative coach Amy McNee.

As reported in Podnews, Amy landed what many consider the “holy grail” of exposure: a guest interview on Jay Shetty’s On Purpose podcast. Friends, publishers, even her Uber driver told her this was the moment. The big break.

But when the episode went live, the results told a different story:

📉 Book sales dipped slightly (from 311 copies the week before to 308 during release week)

📉 Followers didn’t rise

📉 Reach didn’t expand

Instead of skyrocketing, her numbers shrunk.

So Amy did something bold: she shared the experience openly on her Substack. She reflected on what happens when the big break you’ve been waiting for… breaks nothing at all.

Her takeaway was sharp and humbling: proximity to power doesn’t equal power. Exposure doesn’t guarantee success. The cavalry isn’t coming.

When we unpacked Amy’s story during the Podcasting Morning Chat, the discussion quickly heated up:

  • Some felt she may have gone in with the wrong intention, hoping for fame instead of focusing on impact.
  • Others wondered if Shetty’s audience simply wasn’t the right fit for her message. Even the biggest platform can miss the mark if the alignment isn’t there.
  • A few speculated the Substack article itself was a marketing move, turning disappointment into curiosity. In fact, several people admitted they now wanted to go back and listen to her episode just to see what went wrong.
  • And many pointed to Amy’s ultimate conclusion: that sustainable growth comes from steady wins, loyal audiences, and direct relationships, not from hoping a single appearance will change everything.

One particularly striking point: the title of her Jay Shetty episode was “Blocked by Fear of Being Judged: Here’s How to Stop Caring and Unblock Your Creativity.” The irony of talking about judgment and then facing the judgment of lackluster results wasn’t lost on us.

Others raised a marketing perspective: what if sharing this story was the real win? Podnews picked it up. We’re talking about it on the Podcasting Morning Chat. You’re reading about it now. Maybe the Substack wasn’t about failure at all…maybe it was about reframing disappointment into momentum.

Personally, I find Amy’s reflections refreshing. Too often, creative success stories are told as glossy highlight reels. The reality is messier. Big breaks don’t guarantee breakthroughs. Sometimes the stage is massive, the audience is huge, and still… nothing moves.

That doesn’t mean it was wasted. It just means the lesson is different.

👉 So here’s the question for you: do big-name appearances actually move the needle, or are smaller, steady wins where the real magic happens?

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🤖 Storytelling on Shuffle: Will AI Rewrite the Ending?

AI is about to ruin storytelling.
Or it is about to set it free.

This week on the Podcasting Morning Chat, we unpacked Fable, the startup some are calling an AI version of Netflix. But it’s not just about watching shows. It’s about stepping into them.

Here’s how it works:

  • Every show is created with AI
  • Viewers can step in as characters or writers
  • Fans can generate episodes, locations, and alternate endings

On Fable’s Showrunner platform, every story begins with a base world. Then the crowd takes over: spinoffs, sequels, alternate universes, and endless “what ifs” all pile on. Unlike traditional fan fiction, the original creator gets a revenue share whenever fans build on their world.

Amazon’s recent investment signals that this isn’t a fringe experiment. It could be the future.

But as we talked it through, the questions piled up faster than the alternate endings:

âť“Does this unlock a new era of collaboration between fans and creators, or does it dilute the creator’s original vision?
❓Will big studios like HBO ever embrace it, or is this more of a playground for indie storytellers trying to get noticed?
❓If every character can live forever in infinite variations, what happens to the magic of a final, carefully crafted ending?
❓And when VR inevitably merges with this, will we be inside these shows as much as we watch them

Some of us saw opportunity. This could give smaller creators reach they’ve never had before. It could surface new voices, maybe even open doors for overlooked writers and comedians. Others saw chaos—fractured universes, legal headaches, and audiences numbed by an endless dopamine drip of “new” content.

Everyone agreed on one thing: the rules of storytelling are shifting.

So what do you think? If AI can remix your favorite story or podcast and still pay the original creator does that feel like innovation, or erosion?

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🎙️Podcasting Morning Chat Highlights🌅

Welcome to your essential morning brew of ideas and insights, the "Podcasting Morning Chat" is a daily show that's by creators, for creators. A dynamic team of experienced podcasters, entrepreneurs, and producers hosts the PMC. Each episode peels back the curtain on the art of podcasting and content creation. The conversation is a mix of insights, stories, and strategies, tailor-made to keep your content fresh, your audience engaged, and your creative spark alive. 

Recorded live every Tuesday-Friday (temporary summer schedule) at 7 AM EST on Clubhouse and available via podcast at 7 AM PST, our show has become a cornerstone for podcasters worldwide, offering a unique blend of expert advice, real-world success stories, and innovative ideas. Whether you're here to enhance your content, expand your audience, or just soak in the collective wisdom of fellow content creators, the PMC is your source for inspiration, empowerment and connection in the podcasting world. 

Catch up with the latest episodes and join our global community of creators to kick-start your day with creativity, strategy, and insight.

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I’m so grateful to be connected with you and a part of your podcast journey. 

 

All My Best,

đź‘‹Marc Ronick

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