Why Creatives Need a Community

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Hello, hello, everyone. You are listening to The Success Pala,

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a place to discuss how creatives can succeed in every aspect of our lives.

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I'm your host, Soda, and today we are going to talk about community,

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the importance of community,

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and how it affects us as creatives in this capitalistic competition environment.

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So to help me out with this important discussion, I have Paula,

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a very good friend of mine.

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She has a podcast called Talk Shit with P.

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And we talked about this subject recently on an Instagram live because Paula

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was about to go to a really cool event called At Frozen Audio.

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Before we get into the subject, do you want to talk about that event and the

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importance of events like that?

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Hi, everybody. I am Paula, host of 50, and thank you so much, Soda, for having me.

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I can talk about community all day long.

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So Afros and Algiers is a conference. It's going to be their sixth, I believe.

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Oh, yeah, it's going to be their sixth. I attended last year the first time

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on their fifth anniversary.

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And it's mostly for Black creators to have a space to share and connect and

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educate and learn and inspire.

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But what does that mean? It doesn't mean it's only for Black creatives.

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Everybody is welcome, but it's catered to Black creatives and people of color

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because we also do need our spaces and our own communities.

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So the thing about that experience was different because it was the first time

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I'm around so many people.

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People of my color because i'm so used to going to port fair

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like being around different diversity so

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to be around my own people and see

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the amazing shit they're doing and learn from them and

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be inspired motivated and vice

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versa you find that people actually have been

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watching you and you didn't know because i'm their

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star struck like oh my god i'm around all

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these incredible people but they're like yeah your talk show

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will be we know you so but also because

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before I attended I've been part of

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their community online I've been showing up for

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their events virtually I've been reposting their content so people notice those

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things because sometimes we forget that being part of a community means you

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give more than you take and that's

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when you get more out of it because if you're just taking to taking,

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it's not going to work. That's not you being part of community.

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So I think seeing how Black creatives work and being in that space where people

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really understand the struggles compared to being in diversity where people are sympathetic,

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but they really don't get to the extreme of your struggles.

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Because so and to hear how they overcome it, how they get through it,

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how they can support, how they can show up for you was really an incredible thing.

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So shout out to Talib for creating such a community. It takes a lot to create

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a community that shows up for you.

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So that's a testament for what he has created to have all these people who are willing to help.

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Give with no expectation so that's

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that's the beautiful thing about it yeah like

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you you think about these people who lead these communities

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and there's a lot of work involved into it so it's so important that we all

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we're giving back into the pot because we're all benefiting from it and i know

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we were talking a little bit last time about how people in certain demographics

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like afro and in audios, like you deal,

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you meant you touch on it a little bit about how you deal with certain things

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that someone like me might not deal with, and the importance of kind of coming together.

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And something that I've noticed is that strong communities often have a central

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link that brings people together a challenge.

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So as me as being neurodivergent, you know, or maybe my military spouse community,

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whatever community I'm in, if there's a struggle that we all kind of connect

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with, it helps us grow stronger.

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What are some ways that you have used your challenges to help other people in

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your community grow and help them feel seen and the importance of collaboration

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rather than thinking of each other as competition?

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So, my podcast is about creating safe space for creatives to share their creative

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journeys and their mental health struggles.

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But that was after I pivoted two years ago.

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Before that, it was a safe space for people to share their mental health struggles,

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whatever mental health struggles you have.

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So, by me creating that safe space and having people hear these stories or hear

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my story, that's why I'm very...

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If anybody has seen my social media, I'm very open with my struggles,

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with my depression, with my mental health, when I'm having a fucked up day,

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you know, when I'm dealing with grief, you know.

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I like to share that because I don't want people who are going through that

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to feel like they can't share it, they can't find people to talk about it.

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By sharing that people reach out

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to me to talk to me and to to just

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vent or to just get words of wisdom and

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to be inspired or just to have that one friend

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who's willing to listen because i think sadly the

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society we live in people are not willing to lend

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a ear to listen unless they're being listened so

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for some people to to know that there's one

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person out there who's gonna listen to me regardless and it's

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funny that i say that because i just came

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we just came back from podfest right and before

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going to podfest i was running this and

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you'll be zoom part zoom meetings we did four

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of them and all of them i would tell people when you

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see me just come hug me because i love

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hugs and that's how i like like i just will

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run up and hug somebody so a

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lot of people were running up to hug me and as

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we hugged we connected in a.

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Different level as I stood on the stage and talked

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about my presentation I connected with people on

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a different level until today I receive calls

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voice notes messages constantly

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like I think I since I've been back I've spoken more

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to the people I've met at Podfest this year

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the new ones than even my family

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because for some reason they

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feel that i am a safe space they know i'm a

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safe space so they call me for every other

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thing to to one point i made a joke i was like i think i should start

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charging for therapy right now because i'm

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literally giving you all free therapy but there's something

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about you the person

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i am knowing that out there there are people who

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know that no matter what they can

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call Paula and Paula will be willing to

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listen and to vent and without judgment

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because some of the things I've had in these few days I'm like

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damn bitch but then sorry can I cast in here I'll set this one as explicit so

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okay I didn't want that because I know some people don't want casting so I want

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to make sure I obey that so it's but it's a good feeling so for For me,

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and I'm leaving my brand,

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my brand and my purpose was to create a safe space for people to be able to share.

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So even when I share stories that I am scared for the world to hear,

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I went on a friend's podcast, Finding OK.

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Finding Hecate, I believe it was, or Finding O.K., I can't remember.

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For the first time in my life, I shared my rape story.

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Nobody had heard the story. I'd never spoken about it, and I shared it.

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I was so scared of this episode coming out for people to hear.

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And, you know, most of the time a victim comes out and some people don't take

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it the right way, especially when alcohol was involved or anything.

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So you expect some backlashes and all that.

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But I will not forget until today I received an email, a message, Instagram message.

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This person found me after listening to that episode. episode

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and it was so long but basically

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she was saying that she's going through the same

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thing I went through and she has the same thoughts I had and she's so happy

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she listened to this episode the strength and the courage and how I turned that

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around gives her hope that she can eventually she She will be better because

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I am better and I took control.

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And that made me cry. And until today, I check on her every now and then.

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She texts me every now and then. We have connected our connection.

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She knows anytime she's feeling some type of way, she can come to me and talk to me.

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So that's why I feel like there's so many ways you can impact somebody in these communities.

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Even just by sharing your story, you might think your story does not have power,

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but what comes out of it is helping somebody, supporting somebody.

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Or even, let me share an example of Wally. Wally Green is a ping pong player.

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He shared his story on TikTok in his community.

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And he got a message from somebody who was like, I was about to end my life

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today, and you gave me one more extra day.

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To think about it. And that's a powerful thing to be able to,

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just by sharing your story, you're encouraging, you're inspiring somebody out there.

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And that's why I think I went into the creative, allowing people to share their

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creative journeys because that's.

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When people hear that, okay, they might be here right now, but they started from here.

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They had these struggles, but they still kept on pushing, can be inspiring to

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somebody out there who's sitting thinking they have to have all these dollars to create this dream.

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But you can start from anywhere by also having the right communities,

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the right support, and the right mentors.

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And even if that means doing internship, if that means showing up at clubhouse

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seven in the morning, Monday to Friday, if that means instead of ordering Uber

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Eats or buying that expensive Louis Vuitton bag,

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getting a ticket to Podfest so that you can mingle with people.

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So I hope that answers the question.

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Absolutely. I, oh my gosh, you gave so many good nuggets in there.

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And I would love to hear your thoughts about how we can create that safe environment,

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that safe community, because I know for you, basically, so for anyone listening,

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Paula and I are both in a community on an app called Clubhouse,

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which I do want to talk a little bit about how awesome that app has been for

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both of us. But we're in a podcast community.

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And I...

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Feel like I can say anything to these group of people because it's a safe place.

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And a big part of that is you, Paula, of you putting yourself out there.

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And I'm like, wow, Paula is able to be herself.

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And that makes me feel like I could be myself.

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What are some other ways that we can create that safe place for other people?

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And can you talk also a little bit about the Clubhouse app and some of the communities that you are in?

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All right. So let me start with the Clubhouse app.

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Believe it or not, back in the day during COVID-2020, I was very, very much active.

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We had community connections.

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I was a moderator there. We would do so many events weekly.

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And my favorite was brunch Sundays where people come in with their brunch meal

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and we talk about what we are eating waiting for our brunch and then have some

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questions and ask around.

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But as far as of lately, believe it or not, I'm only actively in the Empowered Podcasting Room.

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Like after eight o'clock, I'm out. And then Friday again until nine o'clock, I'm there.

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So maybe I will start getting back into other communities, but Clubhouse really pisses me off.

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And the only reason I really do make it It is because of the empowered podcasting

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room and just the way that communities, you learn, you laugh, you cry, you support,

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you share, you teach.

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It's an incredible community. So shout out to Mark for creating that.

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Shout out to all the moderators in that room.

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I don't want to mention names in case I forget somebody.

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But you know yourselves. and they created that space for me to show up.

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As myself. And I get praised by being myself. I get seen by being myself.

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So I feel like the way you can create a safe space for me is you yourself being

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your authentically self.

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If you are not sharing your struggles, how is somebody going to know you are

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a safe space for them to come to you?

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Because if I'm watching and I've never seen, let's say so that you have a community,

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right? and you're preaching about you are creating a safe space and you want

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people to come together and share.

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But all the time, everything I hear you share or talk about is happy shit because,

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you know, there are those people in social media who just share the good things,

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the luxury, the extravagant.

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But nothing on the bad side, you know.

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So if I'm not seeing that, I can't relate because in my head,

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I'm like, but she has a good life.

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She she's on this level why

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would she understand what i am going through right but then

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if you come if you're that person when

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i come into your community and i see you've

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shared if you're if you're grieving you talk about it if you have mental health

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struggles you talk about it you share the good stuff you share the bad stuff

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you share the in between you literally opening up and welcoming me into your

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space where I can see like, oh my God,

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I feel like she can understand because she went through this and this.

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So I think people need to be able to relate to you.

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And that's why I'm always saying how important it is showing up authentically

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yourself online just as you show up in person.

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Because if anybody has met me, I'm the same person online and offline.

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So you can never say, oh, damn,

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I thought she was like this because she's portraying this online.

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But then when I met her, she's like this. So show up as your authentic self

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and allow yourself to be, well, Mark told us not to use vulnerable anymore.

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So is it strong? Allow yourself to be strong, to share not only the good times,

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but your struggles so that people can relate, people can feel safe to be in your presence.

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And then people will just start opening up.

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And because I love those deep connections, So I'm always trying to make people

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uncomfortable so that they can get comfortable with me.

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And that has worked with me. Like I literally say some shit and I'm very sarcastic.

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And by your response, it will tell me if I need to be in your presence or not.

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So I think that's the best way for you to create a safe space in my thinking.

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Because that's how I did it. Yeah, I remember we were talking about using the

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term authentically courageous instead of vulnerable because,

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yeah, again, with vulnerability,

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it's like you're putting yourself in harm's way.

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So I really like that Mark brought that up again, something,

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you know, learning from each other with community and something else that's

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been great for me with with community is making connections.

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Maybe, I mean, just last week, I was on your podcast and you introduced me to

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one of your friends who I clicked with a lot and we're constantly connecting each other.

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And as creatives, connections are so important because we can't do everything on your own.

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What are some ways that making connections with others and also helping others

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make connections has helped you in regards to creativity and fulfilling some

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of the projects that you're wanting to work on?

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Oh, my God. There's nothing, nothing I love like connecting people.

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All my life I've been the middle person.

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Even if you ask my dad or my friends back in school, my house used to be the after-party house.

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My house used to be the pre-gaming house because I just like bringing people together.

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There's something amazing about seeing that. And I used to be very big on matchmaking.

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There are some couples who are matchmakers and they are married right now,

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and I can take credit for that.

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But because, again, I don't know if it's because I'm a cancer or I am an empathy

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and I feel things too deep, but I am also an observer.

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Like I will literally observe things that most people don't.

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Even in social media, I read into things.

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People's tweets people's pictures people

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that's why I noticed when somebody is off and like

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just last December something told

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me this still people don't look like their social media

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ain't making sense and I reached out to them

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and until today they're like I can't believe you actually could

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tell that we were not okay and when I reached out

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they really weren't okay and I got to talk to them and be

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there for them because sometimes people don't want to

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tell but they are hoping that people notice

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because I think the idea also of social media is we

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are so used to thinking oh because somebody

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is posting on social media or they're online or they're

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this they must be okay but as us being

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creatives we know sometimes we have to be on social media even

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if we are not okay we know we have to post it

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even if we're not okay and some people schedule posts

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you know some people might be on vacation for two weeks but

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they have posts going out every day two posts

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a day but they're not there because they schedule that shit so

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i dig much more deeper

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than normal people and i feel like so when

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i started podcasting i wasn't sure how deep this would go i was just taking

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it this is a hobby doing covid and it has helped me get out of my depression

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so when the things open up we'll see but then i started attending pod fest and

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this was just just virtually.

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And I would hear the speaker speak and then I'd go reach out to them on Instagram.

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And the way they were so quick to respond, to follow, to offer me a consultation

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and to just talk to me and get to know me and connect me everywhere.

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That was like, oh my God, this world, the podcasting world is really about collaboration.

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So if these people were doing that for me and I was new in this industry, why can't I.

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Paid for the same way that's why anybody who comes

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to me about podcasting I'm like oh you're interested in

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this I know Simona oh you're interested in this I know

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Mark oh yeah Dominic like you know and the thing is anytime I'm making it has

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become such a natural thing that anytime I'm sitting and I'm talking to somebody

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and I hear something that clicks with somebody I'm like oh I need to connect

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you this one because I feel like you You guys will get along and create something.

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And I do that because I want to see more collaborations, because especially

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if I know, just like you and Sonic, who knows, maybe your parts would have crossed, maybe not.

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But I would be missing out on incredible art, incredible content that the world

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needs because I refuse to make a connection.

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And that doesn't mean Sonic is going to love me less just because now you two

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are kind of twins and are going to fall in love with each other.

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No, Soda is still going to love me. Soda is still going to love me.

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And that just means that, oh, now if Soda is in town and Soda is in town,

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we can all hang out because they all know each other compared to,

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oh, shit, my two friends are in town and now I got to, you know.

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So to me, I think it's deeper than that just to see people create together.

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Like, it just makes me happy. Look how when we were watching on Monday Song

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Swap, when Dominique ended up being in Amanda and Chris's show,

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just to see that the community working together and being there, I'm like,

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we need more of this. That makes me so happy.

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And because also I'm in a world where I know we can all win because what's meant

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for you will always be for you.

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And just because you meet somebody who does the same thing to you or you collaborate

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with somebody who does the same thing with you. doesn't mean it's dimming your

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light actually it means more opportunity because.

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They already have their community and followers. You have yours.

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It's just adding that up and you get more, they get more.

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And who knows? Sometimes you need them for that inspiration that you were lacking

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or for that deal because sometimes you might realize you haven't got the sponsorship

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or anything because you haven't created something yet that's needing that.

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And then you guys end up teaming and you end up getting bigger

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sponsorship because of that collaboration so anything

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can happen and i just love seeing people

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win so if you can connect

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people if you can collaborate with people like

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it it comes back it comes back and there's nothing like even

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when i was at podfest right i had connected one

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of my friends was in canada and he wanted to start a

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podcast with mark and with adam and just being there

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and all of them were was there and this guy kept on saying

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i know him and i know him because of paula that feeling

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you know and we all took a picture but to

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just see that that connection worked and they

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created their own connection and they still love me actually now they love me

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even more because of that connection so there's there's so much power and the

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more you connect people the more you put people out there like me even every

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opportunity if i hear about an opportunity whether i want it whether I'm applying it,

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I will also still share it to people I know who can get something.

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Because if I'm not sharing it, that doesn't mean I'm 100% getting it.

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I might get it, I might not.

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But if I don't get it and I shared it to Soda and Soda got it,

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that makes me happy because who knows once you're there, because I shared it,

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what blessings you're going to bring to me.

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So we are going to always be pulling each other. And if

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you have that mindset of thinking that it's going

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to come back to me it might not come back to me now but

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it's gonna come back to me and it always does so why

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not yeah like I've made some amazing amazing connections just through being

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active in these various communities have you ever found yourself in a community

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that was toxic or one that that you didn't feel like you belonged in and,

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or have you ever felt like you were kind of an outcast and looking for a community?

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And if there is someone who's going through that, what are some advice that

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you might be able to give someone in that situation?

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Definitely. So first thing, let's make it clear. I'm never an outcast.

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I stand out. So everybody else is an outcast, but never me.

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I have left communities that don't serve me because, again, I'm a firm believer

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since I started working on myself

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and knowing what I want in my life and what I don't want in my life.

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I'm more these days about if you're not bringing me peace

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you you you need to go on

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and I just like family not

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only do I unfollow them but I stop talking

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to them if you're not good for me I don't care if you we have been knowing each

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other since we were kids I don't care if you're my family but at some point

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it gotta go on and I tell everybody if I am not for you if you feel like I am

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toxic Please unfollow. Please block me.

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And you don't even need to explain because I understand because I am on that journey.

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So if you are in communities that are toxic or you feel you can't be yourself,

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leave because nobody is forcing you to be there and you don't need to be there.

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And most probably they need you more than you need them because I don't see

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anybody why they would be needing a community that's toxic or making you feel

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outcast or judging you or anything.

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And baby, there are communities out there that will accept you.

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And Soda came to Podfest for the first time.

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And I always tell people this at Podfest, you will find your people.

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No matter who you are, if you're an introvert, if you think you're a geek, you're not.

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A sex part you are you're weird you're

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whatever we you will find your community and

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you'll be shocked so for me to witness that at

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Podfest I realized that I don't have to be where I don't want to be and once

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you realize that I think it all goes back to working on yourself and understanding

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what you want for your journey for your purpose who around you is sticking to your core values.

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Once you know your core value and your purpose and you're legitimate at taking

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your personal journey seriously, then you won't stick in places that are toxic

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or outcasting you and you will find your people.

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Because believe it or not, I curse a lot.

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And even on stages when I present, sometimes I do curse. I am loud.

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If anybody has met me, I always have a beer in my

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hand and sometimes half of the time I

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don't know the shit I'm talking about apparently it's incredible

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shit because people keep coming to talk to me so if

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I feel that way and I still find communities that accept me and actually encourage

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me to continue being myself in communities where I've won a community hero award

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just by showing up as myself your Your community is out there and you shouldn't

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be in communities that don't.

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So my advice will be as simple as leave.

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Get the fuck out because you deserve better. And just remember that you don't

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need them. They need you.

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Yeah, I wanted to mention that because a lot of my listeners,

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they are, I know we're talking about podcasting a lot, but a lot of my listeners are writers, artists,

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musicians who are in a community that maybe isn't serving them is maybe taking

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more from them than they're giving back.

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And that's something that's

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very very important for me and I know it's important

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to you it's it's basically what my religion is

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is balance and this idea of giving and receiving an equal amount so for you

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how have you been able to really tell if you are in balance with a community

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and if you you are actually giving and receiving a very similar amount.

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Thank you. First of all, I want to say, compared to the music community,

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I'm not sure about the writers' community.

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I guess I will find out soon once my book is out.

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But as far as the music community, I know those communities are brutal.

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Like that's why in my head when I

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was first starting podcasting I wasn't really

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sure of what I am gonna get right

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but I decided to go into it open mind

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so one thing is for sure be open-minded because if

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you go to a place with already some mixed feelings or emotions it's always gonna

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feel off compared to if you go into an open mind and I remember we talked about

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this in a clubhouse room when Stacy and Alex ended up being in that meetup in New York,

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and they almost wanted to leave because they were kind of put off and then later

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realized it ended up being incredible and how much it served them.

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So always going to things with open mind.

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I am a good reader of energy, right? I read energy and I feel energy.

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And my friends will swear on this because I will literally tell you,

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I will meet somebody and I'll tell you, Soda, don't be around that person.

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And you won't believe it and you'll hang out around that person and then in

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less than a week you'll come back and say, I should have listened to you because

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damn. So I always listen to my judgment.

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And because I've learned to not take things personally, I also move like that.

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Like, don't take it personally. I just don't want to fuck with you.

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Like, that's straight up. Like, it is what it is. And it's okay because I'm protecting my peace.

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I'm protecting the space I have created.

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And as far as knowing if you're giving too much or anything. thing.

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So for me, I've realized something about communities, right?

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When you join communities, you can't just keep quiet because if you keep quiet,

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you're not going to get anything and they're not going to know you and it's going to be useless.

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But when you join in these communities and also

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don't start as soon as you join the communities selling your

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products or selling yourself join communities with

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the intention of nurturing those connections in

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those communities don't try to

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show off don't try to be too quick to to

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sell your products or to say what you got

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just show up for people support people post their stuff and those people really

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you can relate to like they understand reach out to them get to know them personally

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don't reach Reach out to them to offer your service or whatever.

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Just get to know them. And you will see, once you start nurturing,

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because it's all about nurturing.

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And the first year I went to Podfest in real life, after virtually.

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I just went there not knowing what to expect because it was my first podcasting conference.

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Because my podcast started during COVID, so I never knew anything about it.

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But after I created relationships but then it went an entire year and next it's

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the next year and we are going back to port first but when I look back I'm like

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I really didn't do shit with these connections I made,

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So I went with the intention. I was like, okay, I'm going to forgive myself

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00:32:46,386 --> 00:32:49,146
because that was my first year. I didn't know what to expect.

457
00:32:49,386 --> 00:32:53,866
But also, like, yes, I connected with certain people who I already knew virtually

458
00:32:53,866 --> 00:32:59,846
and still, but it was like there was more people that I could have nurtured those connections.

459
00:33:00,246 --> 00:33:05,606
So when I went back the second year, I went back with my word being intentional.

460
00:33:05,786 --> 00:33:09,606
I wanted to be intentional with the connections I made. and that's why even

461
00:33:09,606 --> 00:33:13,606
that's when the same year right after I came back where Matthew.

462
00:33:14,346 --> 00:33:17,426
Mark fuck Mark invited

463
00:33:17,426 --> 00:33:20,506
me to clubhouse and I met

464
00:33:20,506 --> 00:33:25,286
people but my my my intention was to nurture every connection and that's why

465
00:33:25,286 --> 00:33:30,726
throughout the entire last year I've made sure everybody in that empowered podcasting

466
00:33:30,726 --> 00:33:35,546
room I've met I've gotten to know them personally separate me and and you have

467
00:33:35,546 --> 00:33:38,406
our own connection without Empowered Podcasting Room.

468
00:33:38,546 --> 00:33:43,366
Me and Amanda have our own. Me and Simona have our own because I was intentional.

469
00:33:43,626 --> 00:33:45,246
So going to these communities with

470
00:33:45,246 --> 00:33:51,546
the intention of nurturing those relationships, and it will give back.

471
00:33:51,806 --> 00:33:55,046
You will get as much or even more than you're giving.

472
00:33:55,206 --> 00:34:02,106
Like I support, I show up, but what I get behind the scene is more than what I am giving.

473
00:34:02,106 --> 00:34:07,046
But because I'm doing it intentionally, because I'm actually getting,

474
00:34:07,246 --> 00:34:09,326
making those connections,

475
00:34:09,566 --> 00:34:14,826
I'm intentionally nurturing those connections in a personal level where that

476
00:34:14,826 --> 00:34:21,006
will become so personal, where even the support, the help, it comes naturally, the recommendation.

477
00:34:21,926 --> 00:34:26,306
People recommend me and talk my name in rooms that I'm not even there. Yeah.

478
00:34:27,031 --> 00:34:32,251
So that's all I got to say, like be intentional with those connections and show

479
00:34:32,251 --> 00:34:36,391
up without expectations and allow it to flow by itself.

480
00:34:37,691 --> 00:34:45,031
I love that answer and completely agree and really love that you could just

481
00:34:45,031 --> 00:34:51,091
you have that energy where you can just feel you could feel if it's a right fit or not.

482
00:34:51,091 --> 00:34:53,791
And I'm kind of the same way.

483
00:34:53,891 --> 00:34:59,571
And I know that you also, with your connections, you do a lot of bartering and

484
00:34:59,571 --> 00:35:04,951
stuff like that, which is something I'm a huge fan of. We're going to be doing some bartering.

485
00:35:05,131 --> 00:35:11,411
And I know that you have a sponsor who you're doing some sort of bartering thing

486
00:35:11,411 --> 00:35:13,151
with. It actually sounds really cool.

487
00:35:13,251 --> 00:35:20,431
A lot of my listeners are writers, so they might be interested and hearing about something like that.

488
00:35:20,471 --> 00:35:25,971
Can you talk about how community and bartering has helped you with your creative projects?

489
00:35:26,791 --> 00:35:32,531
Oh, yeah. So apart from that, also shout out to the Mopad.

490
00:35:33,591 --> 00:35:40,391
They were the first people to actually have that barter service because I just showed up for them.

491
00:35:40,511 --> 00:35:44,291
I would talk to people about them. They have a service that,

492
00:35:44,331 --> 00:35:48,971
oh, my God, But how am I not remembering what the fuck they do?

493
00:35:49,251 --> 00:35:52,231
It helps to show episodes, your downloads.

494
00:35:52,711 --> 00:36:00,791
But they had a program for big networks like Oprah, Call Me Daddy,

495
00:36:01,011 --> 00:36:03,331
whatever. Those are their clients.

496
00:36:03,711 --> 00:36:07,451
So it's people who had a thousand downloads and stuff.

497
00:36:07,851 --> 00:36:11,551
And just by the connection that I made and just constantly showing up.

498
00:36:11,631 --> 00:36:12,651
And I met them at Podfest.

499
00:36:13,331 --> 00:36:17,731
And they came on my podcast and they surprised me. since meeting you we have

500
00:36:17,731 --> 00:36:21,251
decided to start a mini version for people who have,

501
00:36:21,918 --> 00:36:24,658
less than 100 downloads so that

502
00:36:24,658 --> 00:36:27,618
they can also get and they're like the first person

503
00:36:27,618 --> 00:36:30,778
we would like to offer it to for test drive

504
00:36:30,778 --> 00:36:33,758
is you so those opportunities i'm like

505
00:36:33,758 --> 00:36:38,918
wait what you want to give me free and that shit skyrocketed my my my episode

506
00:36:38,918 --> 00:36:45,258
like it was the first episode that got past 300 downloads and then but not only

507
00:36:45,258 --> 00:36:51,478
that it made people go listen to my older episodes and my My older episodes were being downloaded.

508
00:36:51,718 --> 00:36:55,178
So this is not just pushing numbers up.

509
00:36:55,298 --> 00:36:59,898
These are real people who are listening, who are coming back and listening to

510
00:36:59,898 --> 00:37:03,138
the older episodes. It was such an amazing thing.

511
00:37:03,378 --> 00:37:08,618
And they do a lot of that for me. Even sometimes when I haven't used the program

512
00:37:08,618 --> 00:37:11,078
in a while, they email me. Hey, is everything okay?

513
00:37:11,298 --> 00:37:14,558
Is there a problem there? How can we help you? How can we serve you?

514
00:37:14,558 --> 00:37:17,618
They offered to give me subs and stuff

515
00:37:17,618 --> 00:37:20,718
all because of the connection we made and just

516
00:37:20,718 --> 00:37:24,798
me constantly showing up for them um sharing about their product they don't

517
00:37:24,798 --> 00:37:29,278
pay me they didn't ask me to talk about it i just do it because i believe in

518
00:37:29,278 --> 00:37:33,538
it and i believe in them and they're my people and the same thing happened with

519
00:37:33,538 --> 00:37:39,858
the sponsorship you're talking about and it's funny because right before Before that.

520
00:37:40,218 --> 00:37:44,678
A company had reached out to me, wanting me to be a sponsor.

521
00:37:44,738 --> 00:37:48,298
They had found me. And I was so excited because nobody had, like most of the

522
00:37:48,298 --> 00:37:49,758
time, I have to reach out to the sponsor.

523
00:37:49,838 --> 00:37:53,118
So, you know, when you find, when you get that first email of a sponsor,

524
00:37:53,158 --> 00:37:58,938
they find you by your podcast or your social media and they want to work with you.

525
00:37:59,118 --> 00:38:02,218
So I got very excited. And I remember I reached out to Simona.

526
00:38:02,338 --> 00:38:08,898
I was like, how do I price my prices? So Simona helped me again.

527
00:38:09,258 --> 00:38:13,758
And Simona is Empowered Podcasting Room. She didn't charge me or anything.

528
00:38:13,878 --> 00:38:16,878
She literally walked through with me for free.

529
00:38:17,038 --> 00:38:19,938
She helped me. She advised me. And...

530
00:38:20,550 --> 00:38:24,770
And it was amazing. So when I went back to them, they didn't like the price.

531
00:38:25,730 --> 00:38:29,250
And most of the time, you know, when you're money hungry and you're excited

532
00:38:29,250 --> 00:38:33,070
about your sponsor, you can easily be like, okay, I'll lower it down.

533
00:38:33,210 --> 00:38:38,070
But to me, again, my instincts was like, as much as I need this money,

534
00:38:38,450 --> 00:38:40,050
it just didn't feel right.

535
00:38:40,390 --> 00:38:43,390
So I said, never mind, maybe next time. time

536
00:38:43,390 --> 00:38:46,510
and as soon as i say no to that deal shout out

537
00:38:46,510 --> 00:38:49,330
to illiquity who has she has a

538
00:38:49,330 --> 00:38:52,550
travel good and free podcast she has a caring

539
00:38:52,550 --> 00:38:55,410
for your old parents podcast and she also

540
00:38:55,410 --> 00:38:59,290
has a right for you podcast and company she writes

541
00:38:59,290 --> 00:39:02,450
your books she's an editor and she works with you or

542
00:39:02,450 --> 00:39:05,570
she can coach you through it so i

543
00:39:05,570 --> 00:39:08,510
have been talking about writing my book for the past three years

544
00:39:08,510 --> 00:39:12,170
i have have literally wrote like three pages

545
00:39:12,170 --> 00:39:15,190
I keep on every time I pretend I'm I'm working

546
00:39:15,190 --> 00:39:18,230
on my book I am literally staring at the same three pages

547
00:39:18,230 --> 00:39:24,490
for the past three years so she came to me and she was like Paula you you always

548
00:39:24,490 --> 00:39:28,730
wanted to write your book how's that going I was like man and this was right

549
00:39:28,730 --> 00:39:34,890
after Podfest because again I had met her virtually way before and even the

550
00:39:34,890 --> 00:39:37,010
first When I went, she was there,

551
00:39:37,170 --> 00:39:41,390
but remember when I said I didn't nurture those connections that year?

552
00:39:41,870 --> 00:39:44,870
So the next year when I went, I nurtured that connection.

553
00:39:45,370 --> 00:39:46,970
Even this year, she became one

554
00:39:46,970 --> 00:39:52,930
of my roommates. I nurtured that connection to the extent she knows me.

555
00:39:52,970 --> 00:39:55,330
She knows my work ethics. She knows my struggles.

556
00:39:55,610 --> 00:40:01,550
She knows where I am good at. But so when people really get to know you personally.

557
00:40:02,330 --> 00:40:06,270
They know if they can help you or not because they know where you're coming from.

558
00:40:06,370 --> 00:40:09,990
They know what you're willing to do. They know what you want to achieve.

559
00:40:10,170 --> 00:40:12,190
They know how they can help you achieve.

560
00:40:12,390 --> 00:40:15,870
And if you deserve it or not, because nobody's going to help if you're not really

561
00:40:15,870 --> 00:40:18,730
working yourself on that shit, right?

562
00:40:19,590 --> 00:40:22,810
So she came to me and she was like, how about...

563
00:40:23,989 --> 00:40:27,969
I sponsor your podcast and I help you. I was like, fuck yes.

564
00:40:28,349 --> 00:40:37,729
So we got on a call and the amount that she charges for, is it two or three hours per month?

565
00:40:38,149 --> 00:40:44,429
It's the same amount I had given those people who didn't like my price.

566
00:40:45,249 --> 00:40:48,029
So it was like, oh damn. and

567
00:40:48,029 --> 00:40:50,909
that's why sometimes I am a

568
00:40:50,909 --> 00:40:53,849
firm believer in that saying all money is

569
00:40:53,849 --> 00:40:57,069
not good money there was a reason why I had

570
00:40:57,069 --> 00:40:59,789
to deny that one because now I have a better

571
00:40:59,789 --> 00:41:02,729
deal am I getting money no but is my book getting

572
00:41:02,729 --> 00:41:05,509
done hell yeah is then that a better

573
00:41:05,509 --> 00:41:10,309
deal because you know editors are expensive and all that so all I had to do

574
00:41:10,309 --> 00:41:17,509
was which also I can turn it into an audiobook because all I did was I recorded

575
00:41:17,509 --> 00:41:23,589
myself and then she transcribed it for me and then we went through it together,

576
00:41:24,329 --> 00:41:27,449
as she was editing it and because also she

577
00:41:27,449 --> 00:41:31,889
knows me so well like when she brought back the chapters that she was writing

578
00:41:31,889 --> 00:41:37,349
I was reading them and I was like oh my god you really write like it's me like

579
00:41:37,349 --> 00:41:42,049
I was reading it and I felt like I was the one who wrote it and that's the power

580
00:41:42,049 --> 00:41:45,449
of also or working with somebody who actually knows you.

581
00:41:45,509 --> 00:41:48,089
They can actually get you seen.

582
00:41:48,889 --> 00:41:56,429
So we've been working on my book and we're almost done. And she also does websites and SEO.

583
00:41:56,809 --> 00:42:02,589
So because my book is almost done and I still had some extra hours.

584
00:42:03,909 --> 00:42:07,629
She ended up offering, she was like, you know, we can put those extra hours

585
00:42:07,629 --> 00:42:12,449
to your website website and get your SEO and landing page for your book.

586
00:42:12,889 --> 00:42:17,869
So imagine if I had paid somebody else or if I was working with somebody who

587
00:42:17,869 --> 00:42:22,489
doesn't know me, probably they wouldn't even offer that or they would have charged me more for that.

588
00:42:22,649 --> 00:42:27,169
But here she is willing to help me and make all this because she believes in

589
00:42:27,169 --> 00:42:29,609
me. She knows me and she knows I'm worth it.

590
00:42:29,769 --> 00:42:37,289
And she even told me, she's Even if I don't get clients from the ad on your

591
00:42:37,289 --> 00:42:42,529
podcast, it's still an amazing thing that we are collaborating together.

592
00:42:42,829 --> 00:42:45,329
And I wouldn't have picked a better editor than her.

593
00:42:45,729 --> 00:42:49,109
So yeah, shout out to Eliquity right for you.

594
00:42:49,509 --> 00:42:53,169
And that's the power of connections. That's the power of community.

595
00:42:53,329 --> 00:42:55,629
I met Eliquity through...

596
00:42:56,335 --> 00:42:59,835
Pod fest and then we both started attending podpals shout

597
00:42:59,835 --> 00:43:03,355
out to adam shively he has a podcast called podcasting business

598
00:43:03,355 --> 00:43:06,755
school which he does something incredible once

599
00:43:06,755 --> 00:43:09,815
a month he has a zoom podpals where he

600
00:43:09,815 --> 00:43:12,675
teaches for 20 minutes and then the next

601
00:43:12,675 --> 00:43:15,655
20 minutes is for everybody he

602
00:43:15,655 --> 00:43:18,355
he always sends an email and then

603
00:43:18,355 --> 00:43:21,255
it always gets full like 20 people 30 people and

604
00:43:21,255 --> 00:43:24,055
it's it's a live recording but then all those

605
00:43:24,055 --> 00:43:27,635
people get to to share about themselves their

606
00:43:27,635 --> 00:43:30,835
podcast what type of guests they're looking which type

607
00:43:30,835 --> 00:43:33,915
of guests they want to be and this gets

608
00:43:33,915 --> 00:43:37,155
to be on his platform so people can

609
00:43:37,155 --> 00:43:40,035
hear you not only the people were there and but most of

610
00:43:40,035 --> 00:43:42,755
us also still connect from there because i've gotten guests and i've

611
00:43:42,755 --> 00:43:46,055
been on different shows because of that so i

612
00:43:46,055 --> 00:43:48,995
met her in that as as well and from there actually

613
00:43:48,995 --> 00:43:51,855
you met adam because we were on his talk before i took you

614
00:43:51,855 --> 00:43:54,995
to go meet at mark and stacy you remember

615
00:43:54,995 --> 00:43:58,315
when we were in his talk and it got packed real because adam

616
00:43:58,315 --> 00:44:01,595
you want to learn podcasting he's

617
00:44:01,595 --> 00:44:04,615
your he's one of your men to go to so and then

618
00:44:04,615 --> 00:44:08,235
i met her through that and adam has been a big success in

619
00:44:08,235 --> 00:44:11,095
my podcasting he gives free audits you

620
00:44:11,095 --> 00:44:15,235
just have have to sign up and they get like booked throughout but

621
00:44:15,235 --> 00:44:18,075
he does give free audit he gave me an audit last year

622
00:44:18,075 --> 00:44:21,015
on my birthday which was fun

623
00:44:21,015 --> 00:44:24,995
because i got to celebrate today but then here's the reason why i have created.

624
00:44:24,995 --> 00:44:31,975
Shit happens from his audit and people again these communities you find people

625
00:44:31,975 --> 00:44:36,955
who are just willing to help you because they want to see you win they get to

626
00:44:36,955 --> 00:44:39,215
know you personally they're not selling your program.

627
00:44:39,375 --> 00:44:44,115
Adam has incredible programs because he's a coach. But in the entire five,

628
00:44:44,235 --> 00:44:49,395
four years of me knowing him, he has never once sold me his pocket.

629
00:44:49,535 --> 00:44:55,515
But I know once I have money, I am going to hire him because of all the things

630
00:44:55,515 --> 00:44:58,335
he has helped me with for free in his time.

631
00:44:58,515 --> 00:45:00,855
I love these stories of collaboration.

632
00:45:01,075 --> 00:45:06,335
I'm in a group on Clubhouse again called Women Into Networking.

633
00:45:06,395 --> 00:45:11,795
And I've had a lot of those kind of bartering things with them.

634
00:45:11,895 --> 00:45:15,575
I will, you know, make some art for them, have them on my podcast,

635
00:45:15,615 --> 00:45:19,795
and they will help me maybe with a free social media strategy session.

636
00:45:20,075 --> 00:45:26,295
Or I also collaborate with my sisters who are musicians, and then I'll do art to their music.

637
00:45:26,395 --> 00:45:31,775
And something I've really, really been trying to push in the creative communities,

638
00:45:31,895 --> 00:45:34,815
especially with this threat against AI and everything.

639
00:45:35,415 --> 00:45:41,235
One of the biggest things that I believe we could do is by working together.

640
00:45:41,455 --> 00:45:45,015
And I know that some people have had some bad experiences with collaboration,

641
00:45:45,155 --> 00:45:47,395
but for me, they've all been really great.

642
00:45:47,515 --> 00:45:54,635
And I know with you, I was able to make the little logo and you have another

643
00:45:54,635 --> 00:45:55,595
one coming up. I was about to say, literally...

644
00:45:56,497 --> 00:46:03,157
I was about to say, literally, believe it or not, I am creating a new consulting firm.

645
00:46:03,337 --> 00:46:07,817
And I was trying to figure out how to create my logo.

646
00:46:08,257 --> 00:46:13,357
And it just didn't work. Nick offered some AI tools that can help me.

647
00:46:13,397 --> 00:46:16,277
And I still didn't feel like it's something throughout all.

648
00:46:16,597 --> 00:46:20,997
But then again, imagine if I didn't have these communities, I could have easily

649
00:46:20,997 --> 00:46:23,297
gone to Fiverr and paid somebody, right?

650
00:46:23,297 --> 00:46:26,297
Right but then i was like wait soda made my

651
00:46:26,297 --> 00:46:29,737
shit happens logo let me reach out to soda and it

652
00:46:29,737 --> 00:46:32,857
was funny when i texted her soda i need to

653
00:46:32,857 --> 00:46:35,997
talk to you and she was like oh my god i was just literally thinking about you

654
00:46:35,997 --> 00:46:40,877
and i even told i was literally listening to your instagram live when you texted

655
00:46:40,877 --> 00:46:47,537
me and i went to my text to text you and i tell your text that's what it was

656
00:46:47,537 --> 00:46:51,137
meant to be because Because I even told Soda, I am willing to pay.

657
00:46:51,297 --> 00:46:54,737
I don't want you to do it for free for me. I am willing to pay.

658
00:46:54,797 --> 00:46:59,557
And Soda said, I actually need your help with this expertise because you're good at this.

659
00:46:59,817 --> 00:47:03,517
So you help me with this and I help you with that. And that works.

660
00:47:03,637 --> 00:47:05,097
And that's the power of community.

661
00:47:05,577 --> 00:47:07,337
That's the power of this connection.

662
00:47:08,977 --> 00:47:12,897
Because even if we were together with Soda in a community, I don't know if I

663
00:47:12,897 --> 00:47:14,097
would have gone to her or not.

664
00:47:14,177 --> 00:47:16,937
But because we also have this personal connection. like I

665
00:47:16,937 --> 00:47:20,077
really know I love her and she drew

666
00:47:20,077 --> 00:47:22,857
me before for free and I loved it

667
00:47:22,857 --> 00:47:26,437
to the extent that I created a logo

668
00:47:26,437 --> 00:47:29,757
for shit happens with it but so it's amazing

669
00:47:29,757 --> 00:47:32,777
I didn't drop for free I drew it because

670
00:47:32,777 --> 00:47:35,557
you were willing to come in to do

671
00:47:35,557 --> 00:47:40,537
an interview so thank you for that but nobody

672
00:47:40,537 --> 00:47:47,577
nobody else ever draws shit for nobody for coming on their show right so for

673
00:47:47,577 --> 00:47:53,177
me it's like you don't expect it but it's a good surprise like now after sharing

674
00:47:53,177 --> 00:47:58,837
that story now everybody wants to come on your podcast because everybody wants a drawing by Soda,

675
00:47:59,837 --> 00:48:04,417
it's a good it's a good investment like Soda does never have to worry about

676
00:48:04,417 --> 00:48:08,417
getting guests on her show because if she just tells them you will get an art

677
00:48:08,417 --> 00:48:13,757
piece everybody wants to come in but it's funny because even when we were at portals.

678
00:48:14,917 --> 00:48:16,577
Somebody came to me and they're like,

679
00:48:17,599 --> 00:48:22,999
I met Soda. She drew your, I saw the piece she drew for you.

680
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:29,719
I'm like, I love to hear that. Imagine somebody just met.

681
00:48:29,879 --> 00:48:34,659
And Soda in the beginning, because at Podfest, she was kind of shy and unsure and everything.

682
00:48:34,839 --> 00:48:42,419
But she literally blended in so well, because Podfest makes you blend in so fucking well.

683
00:48:42,559 --> 00:48:46,239
Like, you come there scared, but in less than two minutes,

684
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,919
you're already meeting everybody everybody's talking to you and everything

685
00:48:48,919 --> 00:48:52,519
so to be able to see somebody tell me that

686
00:48:52,519 --> 00:48:55,219
i met soda art is amazing and i saw your

687
00:48:55,219 --> 00:49:01,179
piece it was great that makes me happy like yes she's incredible like you know

688
00:49:01,179 --> 00:49:07,499
so it's things like that i was so nervous to go and then just as soon as i walked

689
00:49:07,499 --> 00:49:12,899
in the door to pod fest like you saw me right away and just just ran up and gave me a hug.

690
00:49:13,019 --> 00:49:18,879
And that just alone gave me the confidence to really, you know,

691
00:49:18,879 --> 00:49:23,599
not be too scared to go out and meet people. So I really appreciate that.

692
00:49:23,839 --> 00:49:29,799
And I want to kind of close by asking you one, where can we find you?

693
00:49:29,839 --> 00:49:34,899
Because now everyone's gonna want to know all about you and everything about

694
00:49:34,899 --> 00:49:37,119
your podcast and Instagram and everything.

695
00:49:37,459 --> 00:49:42,919
But also, what are some final thoughts that you want to give about the importance

696
00:49:42,919 --> 00:49:51,119
of really loving this idea of a community and not feeling like you have to do everything yourself?

697
00:49:51,459 --> 00:49:58,599
If you want to succeed the right way, you need the power of community and you

698
00:49:58,599 --> 00:50:04,219
need to be willing to ask for help because nobody's going to come help you if

699
00:50:04,219 --> 00:50:05,399
you're not asking for help.

700
00:50:05,579 --> 00:50:08,119
And that's why I always like like to share my struggles.

701
00:50:08,419 --> 00:50:12,559
When I tell people I'm a broker's bitch, I live paycheck to paycheck.

702
00:50:12,919 --> 00:50:16,439
I'm looking for a job in podcasting industry. It's not to shame myself.

703
00:50:16,679 --> 00:50:21,059
It's because I want to get out of that situation. So somebody out there who's

704
00:50:21,059 --> 00:50:24,059
listening or something can be like, yo, there's this job.

705
00:50:24,319 --> 00:50:26,499
Paula can get it. Yo, there's this opportunity.

706
00:50:26,939 --> 00:50:30,719
Give it to Paula. But do you think they'll bring the opportunity to me if my mouth is shut?

707
00:50:31,019 --> 00:50:36,559
That saying that says clothes, mouth, don't get fed. It's a reality. And.

708
00:50:37,278 --> 00:50:41,138
Embrace the power of communities intentionally

709
00:50:41,138 --> 00:50:44,538
by nurturing those connections show up

710
00:50:44,538 --> 00:50:47,698
for those communities like do you think most of

711
00:50:47,698 --> 00:50:50,578
us like waking up at seven in the fucking morning where we

712
00:50:50,578 --> 00:50:54,738
would be sleeping i mean so there's how many hours behind and she has to wake

713
00:50:54,738 --> 00:51:01,598
up but we go into those rooms because of how much they pour into us as well

714
00:51:01,598 --> 00:51:06,738
so you gotta show up Don't expect things to come to you if you're not showing

715
00:51:06,738 --> 00:51:08,298
up, if you're not supporting.

716
00:51:08,478 --> 00:51:10,958
And people think supporting is always buying things.

717
00:51:11,298 --> 00:51:15,838
No. Sometimes, and people understand you don't have the money, but you can post it.

718
00:51:15,958 --> 00:51:20,338
You can share it. You can tell your friends about it. You can go leave reviews.

719
00:51:20,678 --> 00:51:23,198
You can go to their events.

720
00:51:23,678 --> 00:51:26,998
There are so many ways to support without using money.

721
00:51:27,218 --> 00:51:33,538
So use that. But if you can share Beyonce or Rihanna, you can share your friendship.

722
00:51:34,638 --> 00:51:40,198
And you can find me anywhere. I'm on every social media by TalkShitWithP.

723
00:51:40,558 --> 00:51:44,298
Come hang out with me. New March is coming out. We are getting excited.

724
00:51:44,758 --> 00:51:48,598
A lot of amazing things are about to happen. Wrap ShitWithP.

725
00:51:49,278 --> 00:51:53,458
Consultation is going to be born. Merchandise for ShitHappens and TalkShitWithP

726
00:51:53,458 --> 00:51:54,918
is going to be by pre-order.

727
00:51:55,198 --> 00:51:57,858
So only select people. people in the meantime i don't want

728
00:51:57,858 --> 00:52:01,318
everybody so you gotta fuck

729
00:52:01,318 --> 00:52:04,978
with me to actually rock my shit because i am

730
00:52:04,978 --> 00:52:08,098
very selective with my brand okay and that's okay

731
00:52:08,098 --> 00:52:10,898
you need to be selective with your brand just like how you

732
00:52:10,898 --> 00:52:13,758
protect your peace yes and i

733
00:52:13,758 --> 00:52:16,718
am very honored that that you let

734
00:52:16,718 --> 00:52:21,478
me help wrap your brand so so thanks

735
00:52:21,478 --> 00:52:24,878
again for coming on i loved this

736
00:52:24,878 --> 00:52:28,678
conversation and i will be

737
00:52:28,678 --> 00:52:31,658
seeing you around on instagram then yes well

738
00:52:31,658 --> 00:52:35,378
tonight i will be seeing you around our empire

739
00:52:35,378 --> 00:52:40,258
podcasting room night which everybody should come to the friday if you can't

740
00:52:40,258 --> 00:52:48,538
wake up at 7 to 8 come to the 9 to 10 we normally get wild while learning and

741
00:52:48,538 --> 00:52:52,098
supporting and just they can't see my wild side.

742
00:52:53,138 --> 00:52:57,398
But how else are they supposed to connect with you if you don't show them your

743
00:52:57,398 --> 00:53:04,078
wild side we're talking about connecting with people they need to see all the sides yeah,

744
00:53:05,041 --> 00:53:08,441
Okay, if you want to see Soda's crazy tie.

745
00:53:08,981 --> 00:53:15,781
Wait, they won't get to see the side that I saw when we had the after party with you and Sonic.

746
00:53:16,121 --> 00:53:19,801
But they can get to see that. Because even I was shocked about that side.

747
00:53:20,221 --> 00:53:23,261
There's layers to Soda, y'all. There's layers.

748
00:53:24,541 --> 00:53:28,941
I'm not being fake. I'm just slowly introducing myself to everyone, you know.

749
00:53:28,941 --> 00:53:31,901
Know but um you can just

750
00:53:31,901 --> 00:53:34,721
you can just get naked in

751
00:53:34,721 --> 00:53:37,801
front of people without knowing if you're safe or not you gotta

752
00:53:37,801 --> 00:53:40,681
you know some people i know i'm quick i just get

753
00:53:40,681 --> 00:53:43,561
all in and that's my personality and some

754
00:53:43,561 --> 00:53:46,341
people take a little bit longer but it does come the more you

755
00:53:46,341 --> 00:53:49,301
trust somebody the more you let loose and that's

756
00:53:49,301 --> 00:53:52,201
okay there's nothing bad about that as long as you

757
00:53:52,201 --> 00:53:55,141
as long long as you you know are willing to be

758
00:53:55,141 --> 00:53:58,321
evolving i'm looking forward to more after parties

759
00:53:58,321 --> 00:54:01,341
with you and sonny because i really enjoyed that

760
00:54:01,341 --> 00:54:04,201
i was like okay i was right

761
00:54:04,201 --> 00:54:09,661
this connection needed to happen because everyone's seen diet soda you know

762
00:54:09,661 --> 00:54:17,181
like like it's still soda just diet soda just some people have seen fully exploding

763
00:54:17,181 --> 00:54:22,161
carbonated soda so anyway yes join us on on Clubhouse.

764
00:54:22,221 --> 00:54:26,621
I'll put the link in the show notes and any links that you want to send me,

765
00:54:26,661 --> 00:54:30,321
Paula, I'll put them down below and we will all have an awesome party.

766
00:54:30,501 --> 00:54:37,001
Thank you so much for having me. Thank you for tuning into this week's episode of The Success Palette.

767
00:54:37,141 --> 00:54:43,601
For social media links and bonus episodes, you can go to thesuccesspalette.com.

768
00:54:43,761 --> 00:54:46,881
And please, let's make it a successful week.