About The Hosts

Therapists Jerry Sander, LCSW & Kristy Gaisford, LCSW (from New York and Salt Lake City, respectively) are co-hosts. They both maintain relationally-focused private therapy practices, focusing on couples and individuals. Both of them have been married and divorced, having four children a piece in the first marriages (!).Their interest in the relational world of intimacy is immediate and personal, as they've each found great partners in their second marriages. 

Kristy is a graduate of Columbia University; Jerry is a graduate of New York University. They are both certified in Terry Real's Relational Life Therapy and are regular, authorized presenters of the weekend  Relationship Boot Camp.