S3E10: How To Feel Comfortable In Your Own Skin: Overcoming Negative Body Image & Unhealthy Patterns

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Welcome to head to her podcast.
I'm your host Jenny Markham.

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This Bi weekly podcast is
designed to be a safe space to

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admit what we truly believe in
our hearts.

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We all know the difference
between just having biblical

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knowledge floating around in our
heads and actually believing

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that it's true.
Until God's truth makes its way

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into our hearts.
Nothing changes will be doing a

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mix of solo episodes and
interviews with friends who have

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experience the freedom that
comes when head knowledge

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Knowledge becomes heart
knowledge will talk about

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overcoming lies in our
relationships, mental health

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struggles.
And the way we see ourselves,

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the truth will set you free so
that you can walk everyday in

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the freedom.
God desires for you.

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It's time to let go of the
pressures insecurities and

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burdens.
That's not yours to carry.

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Thanks for joining us.
Hello everyone.

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Welcome back to head to Heart
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Thank you for choosing this
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I'm just flattered, really?
Honestly flattered that you

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would choose this podcast to
tune into, but, you know me,

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it's your regular host.
I'm Jenny.

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And I have a special guest that
you guys probably already know

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of because this is her fourth
episode, baby, fourth episode.

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This is Anna DeLoach.
Say hi, hello?

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Annabeth DeLoach.
Pardon me, but since Anna has

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been on so many episodes before.
Congratulations on number for

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you, we're going to just ask her
a fun get-to-know-you question

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because she has already been
introduced over and over again.

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I mean, I can't expect you to
repeat yourself more time.

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So, Anna, I just want to ask you
a quick question.

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What is your favorite comfort
food?

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I think I have to go with
homemade pizza.

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Like all the way.
Love homemade pizza like the

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fluffy crust kind, lots of
carbs, but I also like good

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chocolate too.
On your feet.

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Just like no, no, no.
Just like a bar of chocolate.

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So when you say homemade pizza,
do you mean like you make the do

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you make the toppings, you make
the cheese everything?

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Yes, the cooking process is part
of the comfort for me.

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How?
Yeah, it's true.

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Every time you come over or
every time I go over to your

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house you always have a baked
good.

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That is.
So true, always or like, right

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now, I'm literally looking at
your zucchini bread right now,

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so thank you.
You for answering that question,

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I wasn't expecting that answer
because I feel like you were

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going to say something that you
really couldn't eat like at all,

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really?
Cuz of your food sensitivities.

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I thought you were going to say
something to your like, if I

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could have it, I would eat this
all the time.

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Just make me depressed.
Yeah, probably.

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But that kind of goes along with
what we're going to be talking

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about today because we are
covering the topic of body image

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today, whoa-hoo, so this
actually has been brought up To

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us a lot.
We've gotten a lot of just

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suggestions, like how about you
talk about eating disorders or

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body image, or how to view food
in a healthy way?

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And we were like we want to just
cover all of it, just literally

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all of it and we're really
excited about it.

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So Anna why don't you tell us
what have you been set free

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from?
I have been set free from an

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eating disorder from like 10
years of struggling with it and

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just a lot of self-hate, a lot
of just negative thinking about

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myself.
And how I look and yeah and what

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has your journey of learning to
care for your body?

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Been like, it has been a very,
very long journey.

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I grew up in a healthy organic
eating family, I wasn't able to

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like drink soda or anything like
that.

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Like, it was very organic based
lots of fruits and veggies just

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super healthy all across the
board.

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Even though I grew up in that
when I was around like 10 years

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old, I started having a lot of
just self-hate negative

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thoughts.
I would look in the mirror out

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hate how my body looked.
It was about the time where I

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started developing and changing.
So I just I really did not like

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how I looked and because of that
I developed an eating disorder

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at a very, very young age, I was
about 10 and it turned into

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anorexia and bulimia.
And that I struggled with that

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for many, many years, The years
when I was about 14 or 15, a lot

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of Life happened to me.
And so I kind of swapped out

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addictions in a way and I
started drinking really heavily

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and smoking and so I was kind of
in that stage from like Middle

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School through high school and I
still was not healthy.

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I was not eating very well, but
I wasn't as focused on that as

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much.
But after high school, I joined

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this program and part of this
program I had to not drink or

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smoke or do drugs.
Nothing.

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And so I kind of cut that off
and I was doing really good.

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I was living pretty healthy for
a while and then about two

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months into that program I
relapse and went right back into

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my eating disorder because I
didn't have the other addiction

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to focus on and so I started
going back into mostly bulimia

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and just a lot of binge eating
and that lasted for years again.

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And so, you know, fast forward,
I'm 20.

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I'm going to college now, I'm
about a semester in and I

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realize how unhealthy I am.
A lot of a lot of food allergies

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started popping up to me, I
learned that That I was allergic

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to Dairy, and which I just want
to say is so surprising because

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she is from Wisconsin, is what
that's a dairy land of the USA.

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Fun fact, I also hate cheese
always have.

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So it wasn't like too bad for
me.

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Okay, continue.
Yeah, learn I was allergic to

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Dairy and just started dealing
with a lot of chronic pain in my

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stomach and my gut and I started
realizing like if Didn't make

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changes to my health.
And to the way I viewed myself,

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it was going to become a very
big problem, and I was going

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down a very, very unhealthy path
and at this time because I had

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some food allergies, I wasn't
able to eat in our school

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cafeteria anymore like most of
my friends and I had to start

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making my own meals in our dorm
kitchen and I had this friend

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and she also had to do that and
I had kind of opened up to her a

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little bit about my struggle
with eating disorders.

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And she'd also kind of struggled
with that in her past and so she

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really had an understanding and
helped me through a lot.

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But one thing, this friend did
for me, was before every single

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meal breakfast, lunch, and
dinner before we would even walk

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down the stairs to our kitchen.
She was stopped with me and she

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would pray before he walked into
the kitchen.

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And she would just say this
really short prayer with me.

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We would walk down.
Make our food and then she would

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pray with me again before I ate
it.

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You know?
It was just a short prayer like

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God allow this food to nourish
our bodies and not to harm it,

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but to give us energy for our
day.

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You know, that was like the
purpose and that really helped

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me change my mindset, in my view
of food, in general, just

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repeating that, you know, three
or four times a day.

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Every time before I eat food,
really like rewired, my brain,

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and my thinking towards food and
towards my body.

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And so, you know, now I'm living
free from an eating disorder,

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which is great Hollywood.
Yes.

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Still, you know figuring out a
lot of things with my pain and

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digestion and stuff but it has
been a journey and I'm living so

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much healthier now and I love
it.

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Wow.
I mean, just even looking back

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at you from three years ago.
I feel like it's a night and day

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difference.
That's crazy.

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Jane how to view food, how we
consume food and why we consume

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food.
All those reasons, have

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completely changed for you.
Yeah, so that's just amazing.

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I feel like in That itself that
can be an encouragement to

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anyone who's listening, who has
struggled with eating disorders,

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from any side of the spectrum
that if God can do it for Anna,

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he can also do it for you.
Yeah.

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And that brings us to the
question of why did God even

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create our bodies?
We sometimes look in the mirror

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and we're like, I don't like
this, and I don't like that.

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I don't like how my hair looks
or my eyes, or my weight or, and

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we just don't even stop and
think, like, why am?

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Am I here?
Why did God choose to create my

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body like this?
So what would you say?

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Why did he even create our
bodies in the first place?

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This question is actually
something that I've been

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meditating on for like the last
month.

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I feel like God has just kind of
brought up to me and worked

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through a lot with me recently
and I feel like you go a lot of

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different ways with it.
But I think the first thing I

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want to emphasize and talk about
is just pot as positive body.

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Image in general, because I feel
like a lot of people think,

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having a positive body image is
like loving every aspect of

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yourself, right?
Like loving your hair, loving

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your eyes, loving.
I don't know.

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Your but like everything and
that's not necessarily true.

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Like that's great if you do.
But ultimately having a positive

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body image is really just about
understanding and accepting that

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your body doesn't determine your
worth and it doesn't determine

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your value.
And if you understand and accept

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that, That you have a positive
view of your body and so you

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don't have to love every aspect
of yourself that will come with

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time.
And that's great if you do, but

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just having that initial
understanding that, that's not

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the worth that you bring to the
table.

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So, yeah, I also just think of
women in general, our bodies

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changed so much over the course
of our life.

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Like, especially if you have
kids, your body is just

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constantly changing.
And I feel like if There is ever

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a point in your life where
you're like, I love how I look

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right now, everything about me.
I just I just am a fan of it.

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I've never felt this good about
me but even over the whole span

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of your life, your body will
continue to look different and

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change.
Even just with age.

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Yeah.
And that is not a bad thing.

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So even what you said, like,
just recognizing that your worth

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is not attached to how you look
is huge.

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Because once you separate those
two, you Can give compassion and

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Grace to your body if like yeah
this is life and I'm going to

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change with time especially if I
have kids especially when I get

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older and especially as I move
and I do different things like

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you're going to change and
that's a good thing.

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God created, our bodies to
change with time.

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What if we looked like this
literally in my 22 year old body

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like this since I came from the
womb until the day the day that

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I die, what out which I feel bad
for your mind you wouldn't work

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out.
Yeah.

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Yeah in Genesis right we go back
to just the Bible and creation.

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God deemed his creation as fully
good, right?

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And so that includes our body.
So our bodies are wonderfully

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made, God created them and he
did them as good.

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But then in Genesis 3, the fall
happened, right?

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And we're no longer able to be
in God's presence without shame

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fully in God's presence.
And so with The fall and with

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sin entering the world.
So did this like thought and

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belief that our bodies are now
meant for something more than to

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glorify and worship God.
And that isn't true, like our

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first and foremost reason for
being why God created us was to

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glorify God.
And so having that understanding

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as well, that you don't have to
have the belief that our bodies

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are meant to do so much more.
Our bodies can do so much more,

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like, they are meant to, you
know, withstand so much and work

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out and do all that fun stuff.
But, you know, our initial

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purpose is to glorify God.
And so that's why God created us

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and God created us as a whole
to, right?

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We're holistically made.
This is one of my favorite

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things is holistic health and I
love that God created us and

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with so many different parts.
You know, we have our mind, our

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soul or body and God created all
Those and we need to nurture all

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of those.
We need to take care of every

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aspect of ourselves.
Because if we don't take care of

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one area, the other areas are
going to suffer.

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So you know, you take care of
your body with, you know, you're

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working out, you're eating well,
taking showers, you know,

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staying well groomed, you know,
your soul spending time with

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God, you know, just taking care
of all of the parts that God

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created.
It's weird because our physical

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appearance is the The only thing
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insides are soul spirit and mind
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three things, affect your,
physical appearance so much.

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Yeah, I mean, think about it, if
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mental health, you get acne,
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You're stressed out, acne comes
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things happen, so you never
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I like you don't, you're not
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Health.
You know, you'll probably smile

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less than if you are taking care
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pretty straightforward.
So let's say that there are

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people listening who just really
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and what they see themselves as
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they just don't like it.
How can we change our mindsets

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to actually believe What God
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I think the first like action
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thoughts or those beliefs about
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the mirror.
That's something that I do like

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all the time.
One time I was at church, maybe

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a few months ago and I went to
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mirror while I was washing my
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to myself, oh I hate how it look
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my outfit.
I was like, I don't like the

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color on my own.
My shirt today.

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I don't like how it looks.
I don't like how my hair looks

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and I stopped myself, and I was
like, I can't change this right

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now.
I'm at church, I can't change my

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outfit.
I can't go curl my hair

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differently because he's be
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service.
Like and I don't want to be

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sitting in church thinking about
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listening to the sermon and
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And so I was just like okay and
you know, walk away from the

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mirror, like right now, before I
continue to pick things out

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about my appearance and
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I actually look in the mirror
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when I'm just looking in the
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just like staring at myself, I'm
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So I look in the mirror to do my
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and maybe to check to make sure
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in the middle of the day, but
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I don't spend a lot of time
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know myself and I know that I
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So that's the first thing that I
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That's a good point because if
you think about it you're

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looking in the mirror, you're
looking at your physical

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appearance but it's not your
physical appearance that has the

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issue.
It's your thoughts about your

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physical appearance, they're
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So looking at yourself and
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What's on the outside?
Isn't necessarily going to fix

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your thoughts about the outside.
So stepping away from the mirror

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is like, okay let me focus on
what actually is affecting me

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AKA my thoughts.
Yeah, I thought life.

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Yeah, good point.
That's good.

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Good job Anna.
Okay, another thing that you can

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do is just to remind yourself
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God poured his love and his
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And one thing I do is I think of
one of the most beautiful and

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like awestruck things about
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And so for me, that is the night
sky, the stars are just

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absolutely beautiful to me and
the ocean, the ocean is so vast.

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And deep and so much of God's
creation is in that, and I think

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about how just beautiful it is.
And when I meditate on it, I'm

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just like left in awe.
And I just remind myself, if I

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look at that with so much just
like and there's, there's so

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much Beauty in it.
How does God look at me?

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Because God created Me In His
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And God, looks at me in so much,
awe and just delight, and he

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loves me so much.
And so, Oh, that just in itself.

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Almost just kind of boosts my
self-esteem in a way, like, no.

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Like, God is just like delighted
in me and in how I look, and who

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I am.
And so that really changes my

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mindset to meditate on that
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Wow.
Yeah.

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Have you seen this movie?
I just said that there's a movie

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called, I feel pretty.
And it's with a me that's like

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an issue Marie, isn't it?
No, that's Pretty in Pink.

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Yes.
Or pretty.

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Pretty woman.
There's a movie.

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I think it came out like 2015's
called.

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I feel pretty.
It is with.

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Wait, is this a Adam Sandler
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Okay I'm Sandler.
It's with a blonde girl.

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She's a comedian.
Amy Schumer.

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I know the name, I don't know if
that's her name, but if it, I'll

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look it up later.
If that is not her name, I'll

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edit that out.
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If it is her name, I'll keep it.
But in this movie, I am not

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recommending that people go
watch it.

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I don't remember if there's
anything dirty in it.

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And don't let your own risk.
The premise of the movie is that

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this girl, she, she doesn't like
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She doesn't like how her life is
going, but it's mostly based on

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her own insecurities of herself.
She doesn't like she doesn't go

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out and date people.
She doesn't go and ask for

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promotions at work.
She just feels very insecure and

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not very confident herself.
And then she gets a concussion.

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Oh, okay.
And the concussion, that's why

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this movie is really funny.
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Her thoughts about how she sees
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Wow.
It's nothing about her actual

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appearance changed.
It's just her thoughts about how

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she looks suddenly she thinks
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street.
She starts dressing like how she

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likes and how it like shows off
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She goes into work, she asks for
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She starts dating.
This guy like her whole life

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changes.
Only because of her thoughts

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about herself started change.
I love that.

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I just remembered, I watched
that movie when it first came

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out, good time, good time, but
that's just true.

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Like, it's not in how you look.
It's how you think about how you

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look.
Yeah, yeah for sure how

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definitely.
And the last part I think that

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is also super important to
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Your mindset is to understand
all that your body does for you

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and so do a little research on
what your body does.

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Like learn a little bit about
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You don't have to be obsessed
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Like I I love learning about my
body but just even knowing a few

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things about how much your body
does.

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Your body works so hard day and
night, it never stops working

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for you and it's Hard to like
hate something that works so

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hard.
Yeah.

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And serves you so well.
Yeah, so learn a little bit

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about yourself, learn how your
body works, and that'll have

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that'll give you a little bit
more appreciation for your body

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and a little bit more grace for
yourself as well.

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Yeah, you'd be like thank you
body.

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Yeah, I think your legs walking
me to the supermarket today.

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So Anna, I am so excited about
this next question.

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Oh, I'm so excited about your
thoughts.

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Halt, it's a three parter.
Okay, we pursue this question of

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Faith.
What are your thoughts on diets

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detoxes and fasting?
You can start with diets, go

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ahead.
Okay.

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First of all diets, I really
don't like them.

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I hate them actually diets, just
throw them out the window.

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It is not a diet, it is a
lifestyle.

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If you choose, you want to live
a certain way, like that's going

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to be your life.
Don't just be like, all I want

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to do this for a month.
I think certain diets can be

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good if they're recommended by
your R Dr by your doctor.

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I don't think doing Quito and
then what are other diet?

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Cetera Whole 30 Whole 30 keto
like jumping back and forth and

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doing all these diets saying oh
I'm going to be vegan this

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month, I'm going to be
pescatarian and then I'm going

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to do keto again for a month for
six weeks writer, six months,

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ultimately, you're really
actually just messing your body

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up like to be blunt because
you're withholding all of these

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foods and these things in your
body's used to not eating them,

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and then you're going to
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It's going to hurt your body.
That's how you're going to build

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in tolerances.
You're not going to actually be

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able to eat dairy.
Again, you're not going to be

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able to eat gluten without being
in pain.

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So, do yourself a favor, just
make it a lifestyle.

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You want to eat healthy, you
don't have to put yourself in a

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box and say, oh, I'm going to be
gluten-free, but just live a

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healthy lifestyle, what's great
for you.

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And you don't have to continue
to jump around diet to diet and

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yeah, there's my rant good
thing.

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Okay.
What about detoxes?

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So detoxing I don't think it's
bad.

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I've been on a few detoxes that
have been recommended by my

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doctor by her doc.
Yes, that is the key.

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I have gone to the doctor.
They said, I need you to be on

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this detox for your health
because it has gotten to the

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point where my body cannot detox
for me.

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So, I have to force a detox,
your kidney, your liver, those

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things detox, your body for you
naturally.

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Naturally, your How do you like
I said?

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Your body does so much for you.
You don't have to force it

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unless medically.
Reason, medical reasons, tell

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you different, a lot of like the
supplements and the big things

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especially that are out right
now.

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You know, it's a new year.
People are making New Year's

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resolutions, they're like, oh,
I'm going to do all these

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detoxes and diets and I'm not
here, criticizing it, and I'm

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not saying that that's bad.
I think that that's a great

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motivation and you're headed
down the right path, but a lot

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of these supplements, And huge
companies.

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They're just trying to take your
money and a lot of these

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supplements are just laxatives
and they're just going to make

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you go to the bathroom.
A lot.

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You're just gonna be pooping.
Yeah.

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All the time all the time and,
you know, doing like juice

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detoxes and tea detoxes.
Those are, those are great.

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That's actually what my doctor
recommended and I did have to

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take the supplement with it, but
those things they bring

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nutrients into your body and
help flush out and clean out

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your liver and your kidney.
So they can better do their job.

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So you're almost detox in the
detox Earth's.

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Yes, do you think?
Yeah, so you don't have to take

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all these supplements, they're
really not going to do much for

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you.
Maybe for a week or so, you'll

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feel a little less bloated.
But yeah, that's just because

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you'll be pooping all the time,
right?

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So yeah.
Alright.

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Thank you for sharing those
thoughts.

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You're welcome.
Now, what about fasting?

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What is fasting and should we do
it?

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Is it important fasting is, it's
really just withholding food for

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a period of time.
You can do it for religious

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aspects, a lot of people do it.
Some I'll do it for like health

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reasons.
Some people have to do it for

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medical health reasons.
Like you have to fast before a

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procedure things like that.
I don't think fasting is wrong.

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I don't think it's bad
specifically, like, I'll talk

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about like, religious fasting
but one time I was part of this

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group and we did this group
prayer for I think it was like a

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24-hour thing, like, two days
and we were group fasting for

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one of the days and we weren't
going to eat any food.

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For the whole day.
And this was right as I was

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coming out of my eating
disorder.

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I think it was a few months into
her.

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I was really starting to get
really healthy in the thought of

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withholding food from myself.
Was honestly terrifying for me,

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I was like, if I withhold this
food, am I going to start eating

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again?
And it was a real, like problem.

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And I felt a lot of pressure
too.

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A lot of pressure to do it
because I was judged a lot by

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other people in it, like, oh,
you're going to eat.

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00:25:17,500 --> 00:25:21,400
So you're not depending on God
to get you through the day

451
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,700
because when you fast for
religious reasons, you're

452
00:25:24,700 --> 00:25:29,200
replacing that time that you
would eat with prayer and you're

453
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,500
asking God to like, you know,
get you through it and you're

454
00:25:31,500 --> 00:25:35,000
using that hunger as motivation.
And it just really wasn't

455
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,800
something that I could
physically or mentally do in

456
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,800
that time.
And so, I chose to eat and I

457
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:47,100
still prayed, I still, you know,
took part in at all, but

458
00:25:47,900 --> 00:25:51,200
physically and mentally, I could
not do it and so I chose not to

459
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:55,000
and so fasting, for religious
purposes is not bad as long as

460
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,800
you can physically and mentally
handle it, if you can't, there's

461
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,600
no shame around it.
And don't feel like you're a

462
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,800
terrible Christian because you
can't fast for a day.

463
00:26:05,300 --> 00:26:07,700
You know, you can fast other
things, even faster, social

464
00:26:07,700 --> 00:26:11,200
media, you can fast TV, you can
fast something else in Replace

465
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:16,800
that time with your prayer time,
but, yeah, and when Jesus talks

466
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,600
about fasting, I believe it's in
Matthew 6.

467
00:26:20,500 --> 00:26:24,600
He does say like when you fast
do it with the door closed, when

468
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,000
you fast, make sure it's not for
other people, but between you

469
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,400
and God.
And so it is expected that we

470
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:35,200
will Fast and just take away
that distraction of food during

471
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:39,000
a meal time, to spend time with
the Lord that is expected and

472
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,500
it's up to you how How often you
feel like the Lord is asking you

473
00:26:42,500 --> 00:26:47,100
to do that and if it is going to
mess you up or change your view

474
00:26:47,100 --> 00:26:51,400
of food in a negative way, that
is not healthy, right?

475
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:52,700
And God doesn't want you to do
that.

476
00:26:52,700 --> 00:26:54,700
He's not gonna ask you to do
that, if that's going to be

477
00:26:54,700 --> 00:26:56,900
harmful for you.
Yes, there are other ways

478
00:26:57,300 --> 00:27:01,400
different timeframes.
I mean, you can change it to.

479
00:27:01,700 --> 00:27:03,900
It's just between you and God.
So you're not doing this for

480
00:27:03,900 --> 00:27:06,500
someone else and how they can
look at you and how they can

481
00:27:06,700 --> 00:27:08,800
perceive you, but it's just
between you and him.

482
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,500
So whatever you think is going
to be beneficial.

483
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,200
Go to your relationship with him
and your prayer life.

484
00:27:14,300 --> 00:27:17,900
Yeah.
So Anna, you said as part of

485
00:27:17,908 --> 00:27:21,900
your journey of learning to care
for your body that you have been

486
00:27:21,900 --> 00:27:27,600
in some pain, possibly chronic
pain in your gut for a while and

487
00:27:28,300 --> 00:27:31,800
I know a lot of people do have
digestive issues or allergies

488
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,100
sensitivities, etc, etc.
But some of it can result in

489
00:27:35,108 --> 00:27:37,600
chronic pain.
So how do you cope with chronic

490
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,300
pain in your life?
I do a lot of things to help

491
00:27:41,300 --> 00:27:44,400
with my pain because a lot of
the pain that I experienced is

492
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,500
like you said, it's in my
guidance in my stomach.

493
00:27:47,700 --> 00:27:51,500
It's like I said, like I'm still
in the process of learning what

494
00:27:51,500 --> 00:27:54,800
it is, but from my understanding
and from the doctor's

495
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,300
appointments that I have been
at, it is from and caused by

496
00:27:58,300 --> 00:28:01,500
food.
And so, a lot of things that I

497
00:28:01,500 --> 00:28:05,900
do to help cope with it is, I
use a heating pad, I use heating

498
00:28:05,900 --> 00:28:08,600
pads, like crazy asleep with it.
I use it when I'm just sitting

499
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,800
around.
Like that thing is my Lifesaver,

500
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,400
I sleep a lot because your body
does a lot for you while you're

501
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,100
asleep.
It's when a lot of your

502
00:28:17,100 --> 00:28:21,900
digestion, digestion happens, a
lot of your healing, all of

503
00:28:21,900 --> 00:28:24,500
that.
So I get plenty of sleep and I

504
00:28:24,500 --> 00:28:29,200
drink a lot, a lot of liquids.
Another thing I do is when I'm

505
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,800
in a lot of pain, a lot of
times, I can't eat a lot.

506
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,100
My stomach can't handle it.
It makes me super sick.

507
00:28:36,100 --> 00:28:39,000
I get super nauseous and so I
don't fall.

508
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,800
This myself to eat.
And a lot of people tell me

509
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,600
like, oh, well, you you better
be eating like you're sick.

510
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,400
So you better keep like, eating
soup and eat your vegetables,

511
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,500
and things like this, and people
don't get that, like, sometimes

512
00:28:52,500 --> 00:28:56,000
your body just can't handle it.
Like, I could have a sip of

513
00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:00,400
broth and I could be sick.
And so, if you're feeling that

514
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,400
pain, and you're really sick
like that one, go to the doctor,

515
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,500
please go to the doctor before
you do this.

516
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:12,600
But Don't force yourself to eat
if you can't like that is, okay.

517
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,900
Even eating like vegetables and
salads and stuff.

518
00:29:15,900 --> 00:29:18,500
Sometimes your body still can't
handle it, even if it's healthy,

519
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,400
and that's okay.
Drink a lot of smoothies drink,

520
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:27,300
a lot of juices and keep your
body nourished in that way.

521
00:29:27,300 --> 00:29:29,700
But you don't have to force
yourself to eat, even healthy

522
00:29:29,700 --> 00:29:32,100
food.
And then I also, I don't drink

523
00:29:32,100 --> 00:29:34,400
any coffee or alcohol in those
times.

524
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,300
And I won't drink any coffee or
alcohol for a couple weeks

525
00:29:37,300 --> 00:29:39,000
afterwards to, to really make
sure.

526
00:29:39,500 --> 00:29:42,800
That I've healed.
And I'm okay after that.

527
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,100
Believe me, I love being
organized just as much as the

528
00:29:50,100 --> 00:29:53,100
next person but I have found a
pattern in my life.

529
00:29:53,100 --> 00:29:54,700
When I try to use a basic
planner.

530
00:29:55,500 --> 00:29:58,600
It's goes like this.
I'm going strong writing down

531
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,100
what I need to do until
Thanksgiving comes around and

532
00:30:02,100 --> 00:30:04,300
then I forget the planner exist
until the new year.

533
00:30:04,900 --> 00:30:07,800
In January.
I'm committed and excited to get

534
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,600
organized but once March hits.
I can't even find the thing

535
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,800
anymore.
Have you ever experienced this?

536
00:30:15,300 --> 00:30:18,000
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want to get organized but just

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555
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556
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our bodies and mental health,
praise God.

557
00:31:32,100 --> 00:31:35,900
For those things that our mental
health is actually super

558
00:31:35,900 --> 00:31:38,100
connected with our physical
health.

559
00:31:38,500 --> 00:31:43,900
So Anna, as a health Junkie You
are you've done so much research

560
00:31:43,900 --> 00:31:48,100
about it, you've been in the
books and in the podcast and

561
00:31:48,100 --> 00:31:49,400
you've been studying for
yourself.

562
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,900
So what have you learned about
that connection?

563
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:56,900
Yeah, one of my favorite
resources that I love to listen

564
00:31:56,900 --> 00:32:00,700
to, I love to read is from dr.
Caroline Leaf, shout out.

565
00:32:00,700 --> 00:32:02,600
Yes.
Have you Caroline?

566
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,100
Yes he is amazing.
She has a great podcast and my

567
00:32:06,100 --> 00:32:09,100
favorite book that I recently
have read by her is cleaning up

568
00:32:09,100 --> 00:32:14,200
your mental mess and It talks a
lot about your brain and

569
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,800
specifically your gut
connection.

570
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:21,000
Because, you know, when you're
stressed out a lot, it mostly

571
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:21,600
shows up.
You see it?

572
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,400
Most when you're stressed, when
you're stressed out your gut

573
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:28,400
suffers majorly like you see it?
You feel anxious?

574
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,700
You feel say your stomach feels
like tight.

575
00:32:30,700 --> 00:32:34,400
Yeah like it's connected one of
the fun facts that I learned in

576
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:39,700
this book is that your dopamine
and your serotonin levels and a

577
00:32:39,700 --> 00:32:41,400
lot of people think that they're
producing.

578
00:32:41,500 --> 00:32:46,200
Stand, they flow from your brain
but I think don't quote me on

579
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:50,200
the exact percentage but only
about like 20% is produced in

580
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,200
your brain.
The rest are actually in your

581
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:57,400
gut and so those are triggered
when you eat good foods when you

582
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,500
exercise and they're produced in
your gut and they are released

583
00:33:01,700 --> 00:33:07,200
when you drink kombucha, yes.
When you have good veggies and

584
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:11,000
things like that.
And so if you're really feeling

585
00:33:11,500 --> 00:33:15,900
Down in your I don't know super
depressed and sad and anxious.

586
00:33:16,900 --> 00:33:20,500
Go eat some vegetables.
Go eat some leafy greens, take

587
00:33:20,500 --> 00:33:21,900
care of yourself.
Yeah.

588
00:33:21,900 --> 00:33:26,000
Go exercise for 30, 30 minutes,
go for a walk stretch, a little

589
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,900
bit.
That's going to produce those

590
00:33:27,900 --> 00:33:30,300
chemicals.
That are feel good chemicals in

591
00:33:30,300 --> 00:33:34,500
your body and you're actually
going to have a boost and a

592
00:33:34,500 --> 00:33:35,500
better day.
Hmm.

593
00:33:36,300 --> 00:33:39,200
That is so cool.
How our they're all connected.

594
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,400
So let's say we're talking with
someone.

595
00:33:41,500 --> 00:33:46,400
One who does not view food in a
healthy way, how could we begin

596
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,700
to change our view of food?
And let's say, someone has an

597
00:33:49,700 --> 00:33:52,600
eating disorder?
How could they begin to give

598
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,800
that over to God?
So that he could change their

599
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,200
mindset?
Yeah, that's a great question.

600
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:03,000
One way that, so taking it back
to when I was in my dorm kitchen

601
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:07,300
and my friend was praying with
me, the basis of our prayer was

602
00:34:07,300 --> 00:34:09,800
really to change our mindset of
food.

603
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,199
And so I changed my mind.
Mindset of food being, you know,

604
00:34:13,500 --> 00:34:17,300
quote-unquote comfort food or,
you know, just tasting really

605
00:34:17,300 --> 00:34:21,500
great, which I still, I love, I
love food, but I change it from

606
00:34:21,500 --> 00:34:24,900
that to having a mindset that
the food that I'm eating is

607
00:34:24,900 --> 00:34:27,500
fueling, my body.
So, food is fuel and it's there

608
00:34:27,500 --> 00:34:29,400
to give me energy.
It's there to get me through my

609
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:33,300
day to make me feel good and
it's not necessarily just there

610
00:34:33,300 --> 00:34:36,600
for me to consume and it's not
going to just, you know, put on

611
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,800
the pounds and I don't view it
in that way anymore.

612
00:34:39,699 --> 00:34:45,699
And so giving my eating disorder
over to God was a very, very

613
00:34:45,699 --> 00:34:51,199
long process.
And it was me learning to let

614
00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:58,400
God be in control of my health
and of my body rather than me I

615
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,000
can't always control how my
body's going to work.

616
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,300
I can't always control sickness
that's going to come.

617
00:35:03,700 --> 00:35:07,800
So giving that over to God
really helped but it was a very

618
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,400
long process.
And so, one process that I love

619
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,700
that, I learned through my
church is called notice name

620
00:35:15,700 --> 00:35:19,900
nurture.
And so through this process of

621
00:35:19,900 --> 00:35:23,400
giving my eating disorder to
God, I noticed that I had a

622
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,800
problem and I named it out loud.
I said, yes, I have an eating

623
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,400
disorder and this is a problem
in my life and I need to change

624
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,700
it.
I also named it to friends, I

625
00:35:33,700 --> 00:35:36,900
brought other people into it and
so I didn't keep it a secret.

626
00:35:36,900 --> 00:35:40,500
I wasn't holding a lot of Shame.
I'm around it because once I

627
00:35:40,500 --> 00:35:44,000
spoke it out loud and once I
spoke it to one friend, a little

628
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,200
bit of that shame came off and
it became a little bit easier.

629
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:51,500
And, you know, having people in
on it, people were able to also

630
00:35:51,500 --> 00:35:54,500
watch me and call me out in
times and check in on me.

631
00:35:54,900 --> 00:35:58,700
And so, you know, noticing it
and naming it with yourself with

632
00:35:58,700 --> 00:36:05,300
other people and with God, The
last part was the nurture

633
00:36:05,300 --> 00:36:08,800
process and that's the one that
takes the longest generally.

634
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,700
If it's a big problem, like an
eating disorder.

635
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:16,900
And so I the nurture began when
I invited God and other people

636
00:36:16,900 --> 00:36:19,800
into my diction.
And I began to open my heart up

637
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:25,400
to God for healing and really
just gave it over to.

638
00:36:25,500 --> 00:36:27,500
What is that called that doctor?
Do that.

639
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,500
Use the like relax of gravity of
the real life?

640
00:36:30,500 --> 00:36:32,900
Yes.
I love that.

641
00:36:34,100 --> 00:36:40,700
And so I I always liked Vision
myself, holding it in my hands,

642
00:36:40,700 --> 00:36:45,100
open to God with my Palms wide
open and just not holding on to

643
00:36:45,100 --> 00:36:47,600
it anymore.
So, I wasn't holding on to my

644
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,400
health, I wasn't holding on to
the bullies that I had about

645
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,800
food or even labeling myself as
having an eating disorder, was

646
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,400
actually just crippling in
itself.

647
00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:00,000
And so I gave that over to God
and just allowed him to take it

648
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,400
from me and to form it into
something new and give it back

649
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:07,000
to me in a healthy way.
And to Now take me down this new

650
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:08,700
path.
I love learning about health and

651
00:37:08,700 --> 00:37:14,000
learning about my body and yeah,
if you want to learn more about

652
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:18,000
the sanctity of the relaxed
grasp, it's the first episode of

653
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,600
season 2 with Liz Dorsch.
Okay.

654
00:37:21,500 --> 00:37:24,400
We just had a professor who
would talk all about that and it

655
00:37:24,408 --> 00:37:27,500
was so good.
It doesn't just apply for our

656
00:37:27,500 --> 00:37:29,600
Eating Disorders.
It applies for everything in our

657
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,500
lives, just holding it with Open
Hands.

658
00:37:31,500 --> 00:37:34,600
Yeah, Anna.
Thank you so much for all your

659
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,200
wisdom and just telling us about
your experience And how Lord has

660
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,600
set you free?
Are there any last pieces of

661
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,300
advice or encouragement that you
would give people listening to

662
00:37:44,300 --> 00:37:47,500
this episode?
Yeah, I think the biggest thing

663
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:53,000
you can do is to bring people
into your eating disorder.

664
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,900
You're paying your health
Journey, whatever it is and to

665
00:37:56,900 --> 00:37:59,200
be open about it.
Don't hold it to yourself.

666
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,300
The people around, you actually
really care a lot for you and

667
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,900
they'll do a lot for you to like
I'm going to call out Jenny here

668
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,200
because One time I had to go all
the way back to Wisconsin.

669
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,000
My hometown three and a half
hours away for a doctor's

670
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:17,000
appointment and Jenny drove.
There with me.

671
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,800
That was the most fun road trip.
Well, she loves Wisconsin.

672
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:25,500
I think that was like a big part
of it but Jenny just was super

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glad to come with me and I
remember driving back and I

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started experiencing a lot of
stomach pain driving back and

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she just sat with me and it was
actually really nice to not be

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in it by myself.
Oh yeah, I remember you just all

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of a sudden got very, very quiet
and you're driving and I thought

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like oh she's really quiet and I
thought, oh she's probably in

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pain.
And I said are you in pain?

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You said Yep.
This is and so it should we just

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set the agenda music?
Yeah.

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Yeah.
And so it really does help to

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have even just like a couple
people around you that can that

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are willing to sit with you in
it, even if you're not able to

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do anything it's nice to have
that Community around you and

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supporting us.
That's so encouraging.

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Thank you, Anna, for sharing,
all this.

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Thank you for just, just being
an open book and being willing

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to share this Freedom with
others.

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I really think that freedom is
contagious.

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Once you tell your story of
Freedom, it can help others

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experience that same thing.
So we just thank you all the

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listeners for listening.
This episode Anna is on three

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other episodes, she is on the
episode about rest.

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She is on the fatherhood of God
part 2 and she's on our bonus

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episode home for the holidays.
So go ahead and listen to all of

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those because you'll get more
and more of her sweet voice.

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Thank you for listening signing
off.

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