March 30, 2026

Bad Teachers: Alabama

Bad Teachers: Alabama
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Jim brings you the story of Bad Teacher Carrie Witt from the State of Alabama that were arrested and convicted of having inappropriate relationships with (2) students.

Chapters:
00:34 Bad Teachers State Series: Alabama
15:59 Legal Challenges
17:08 Indictments and Intertwining Cases
22:58 Court Rulings and Appeals
27:23 Restitution

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Hey folks, welcome back today. I am bringing you another

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Bad Teachers State series episode as I continue on my

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quest to cover all fifty states. And in this episode,

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I am bringing you to Alabama. And first up in

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Alabama is former social studies teacher Carrie Witt, who in

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twenty sixteen was arrested in charge with two counts of

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engaging in sex acts with two high school students. And

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what made this case rather interesting is Carrie Wit she

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actually challenged the law in Alabama all the way to

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the state's Supreme Court primary due to these students' ages

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at the time, which were initially reported as seventeen and eighteen.

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And we'll get into some discrepancies there now. As if

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this weren't enough, another teacher slash teacher's aid from another school,

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twenty five year old David Solomon, actually joined her in

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that challenge after he was charged with having sex with

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a seventeen year old student. It is a wild case

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with a lot of twist and turns, so let's get

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into it. And Carrie Witch, she taught at Decatur High

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School and this is in Decatur, Alabama, and Decatur is

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a larger city around sixty thousand residents, and it's located

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about twenty five miles southwest of Huntsville, Alabama. Space Country

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right in Alabama, it's known as the River City with

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the Tennessee River tributaries flowing right into the area. And

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now not much at all, really is none out there

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regarding Carrie Wit prior to her arrest in twenty sixteen.

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What we do know is at the time of her arrest,

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she was well established at the school. She had taught

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there quite a while, teaching history, psychology, and at the

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time of her arrest social studies. Now, in addition to that,

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she also coached varsity golf and she coached junior varsity

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cheerleading at the school. So on March seventeenth of twenty sixteen,

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police they received some information that a teacher, specifically Carried Witt,

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was having sex with a student a student. Now they

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did what they do, They opened an investigation. They started

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interviewing students. It was through these interviews they discover hold

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up not only was one student involved, but two male victims,

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again one being seventeen as it was originally reported in

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one being eighteen. So on March twenty first of twenty sixteen,

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police investigate and they feel like they have enough information,

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improof to make an arrest, and that's just what they do.

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They arrest carry went and they charge her with two

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counts of a school employee engaging in a sex act

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or deviant sexual intercourse with a student under the age

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of nineteen. And that's going to play a big role here.

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Now bond is set at ten thousand dollars. Now, it's

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notable that in Alabama the age of consent is sixteen,

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but this specific statute a person of authority. Keep that

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in mind. That makes it a felony regardless of whether

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you consent or not. Seventeen you consent. It's like many

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of the cases we cover. You can't consent to someone

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that is in a position of a already over you,

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like a teacher. And as I said, this law would

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play a very key role in this case. So with

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at this time of her arrest, she's forty two years old, attractive,

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very attractive looking woman, not someone you would think would

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be chasing kids around. So she gets arrested, she bails out.

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This is on March twenty second of twenty sixteen, and

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she at this point is facing twenty years in prison

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and another point In fact, at the time of her rest,

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she was the third local coach arrested for screwing around

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with kids. Now, remember she was a golf coach as

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well as a teacher, but she was the third locally

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to get arrested in just a two week time period,

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with the first being a local assistant football coach, the

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second also being some sort of football coach. In less

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than two weeks, y'all, Takatur, Alabama was realizing quickly they

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had a problem at their school. So a week later,

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the Alabama Senate actually takes note of all this going

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down in the Decatur area and a bill was introduced,

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and essentially this bill was promoted throughout the state of

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Alabama as a requirement of teachers to take a refresher

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course on get this, not having sex with students. I mean,

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for sure, something that on the surface seems like it's

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worth doing, But on that same thought process, it seems

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kind of ridiculous that it would even be necessary to

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have a freaking course on not having sex with the

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students you teach in high school in younger grades. Kind

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of tells you how much of an issue this was

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becoming in the state of Alabama. Now on a third

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of twenty sixteen, there were some conflicting reports that came

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out when it was reported by police that the two

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students that was actually having sex with were both eighteen

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at the time. And look, it doesn't change any of

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the charges because the state law states any student under nineteen.

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Really it's just semantics, but for sure it's important to

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be accurate, and we're going to have another accuracy issue

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with the ages as we go along. Now. It also

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comes out this day that while Wit was suspended pending

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an investigation, she was suspended with pay, which I found

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very interesting. Apparently to cater Alabama schools, they had some

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sort of I don't know if I call it a policy,

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but it was definitely the way that they operated in

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which if you're charged with some sort of crime, you

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have to be convicted before they will stop paying you.

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And this will play a key role in the story

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in just a bit. Now, in the midst of that,

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the bill that I mentioned a few minutes ago, it

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was introduced and it's pretty short and to the point,

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so I'm going to read quickly just the highlights of

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what it stated. And it was actually written by Senator

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Ward in Alabama and the highlights of it are as

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follow as. It says, a bill to be enacted related

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to public K through twelve education to establish the Educator

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Student Interaction Training Act one hour of training regarding appropriate

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and inappropriate interaction between educators and students one whole hour.

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The overwhelming majority of educators in public schools of the

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state are dedicated professionals who comply themselves accordingly. However, an

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increasing number of incidents have been reported in recent years

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where educators have had inappropriate contact with students, both in

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person and through social media, and in the context of

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discipline and inappropriate relationship. Another key point at self is

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the Alabama Education Association SOW cooperatively develop and disseminate training

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regarding appropriate and inappropriate interaction between educators and students. At

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a minimum, the training shall include instruction on state laws,

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state and local education policies, and best practices regarding all

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of the following. And it says sexual or romantic contact

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between educators and students, two, social media interaction between educators

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and students. Three, interaction between educators and students outside of

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a school setting for corporate punishment and other disciplinary measures,

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and five the use of physical restraint in maintaining order

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in the classroom. So that became an act inside of

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the state of Alabama that they were going to mandate

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an hour of training. And hey, look, any training is great.

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I don't know how I don't know how effective that

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really is. I mean, it's not real hard to understand

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what's appropriate and inappropriate. But at least they did something.

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I'll give them credit for that. So while that bill

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is being considered, more information was coming out on Carrie

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Wit and the fact that she was still getting paid

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during this investigation. Now the superintendent explained to the media

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that Carrie declined to resign after she was arrested, and

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policy dictated she would have to be fired for cause

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to not get paid, meaning convicted, as I told you earlier,

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was kind of the process that this school district used.

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It's a weird policy, but I mean, there you have it.

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It also came out that during these instances of sex

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that she allegedly had with these students, they had occurred

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the prior year to her rest, with one student during

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this spring of twenty fifteen and another student during the

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fall of twenty fifteen. The concern over Wit was reported

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by a school employee, and that is what actually sparked

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the investigation into what was going on. So on April

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fourth of twenty sixteen, a real shocker hit when Carrie

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WIT's attorney files emotion and in this motion he challenges

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the teacher student law and he calls it unconstitutional. And

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this is probably the most important part of this entire case.

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So I'm going to review the high points for you.

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I'm not going to bore you with the legal ease

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if you will that's involved in this motion, but I

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will cover just a little bit of it that I

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think is very important. And it starts out with the

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statement of facts and it redacts both of the students' names,

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but it goes on to say we're high school students

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at Decatur High School. Both had been a student in

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a class taught by Wit at Decatur High School. And

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then it says both were seventeen years old at the

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time of the alleged jack. So you see here where

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we've got some age discrepancies. Now this is a court motion,

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I would be apt to believe what it says in

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this motion that both were seventeen, but there you have it.

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And it goes on to say both suffer from no

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mental defect, were not at any time mentally ill or

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physically incapacitated, and both maintained in no way exerted authority

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over entaste or pressured them to enter any relationships. And

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then one of the two students name redacted has already

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graduated from Decatur High School and is no longer enrolled

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as a high school student, which is irrelevant in this

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situation because when she was taking part in these sexual instances,

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this person was in high school. So then this attorney

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goes on and kind of makes an argument here, and

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it starts out by quoting the statue as it reads

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prior to him making an argument, and it says thirteen

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Ay six eighty one the statute as follows, a person

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commits the crime of a school employee engaging in sex

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act or deviant sexual intercourse with a student under the

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age of nineteen if he or she is a school

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employee and engages in sex acts or deviant sexual intercourse

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with a student, regardless of whether the student is male

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or female. And then it says in bold consent is

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not a defense to charge under this section. As used

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in this section, sex act means sexual intercourse with any penetration. However,

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slight emission is not required, then it says, as used

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in this section, deviant sexual intercourse means any act of

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sex gratification between persons not married to each other involving

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the sex organs of one person and the mouth or

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anus of another. So in these charges that tells you

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that there was either some anal see acts going on

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or some oral sex going on. The crime of a

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school employee engaging in a sex act or deviate sexual

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intercourse with a student is a Class B felony, it says.

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It also says, Additionally, the statute provides that, for purposes

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of this article, school employee includes a teacher, school administrators,

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student teachers, safety or resource officer, coach, or other school employee. Conversely,

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statute provides that a person over the age of sixteen

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who is not mentally defective, mentally incapacitated, or physically helpless

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is capable of giving consent to sexual conduct. Under Alabama law,

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anyone sixteen age or older is technically not a child,

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but is one capable of consenting to sex. The addition

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of statue to the existing scheme of sex crimes unconstitutionally

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intrudes into the private relationship of school employee to screen

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his or her sexual partners based not on capacity to consent,

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but based on enrollment status. The state allows that a

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person sixteen years of age or older may consent to

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sexual activity with anyone except to school employee, and at

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this point he's making his argument. The state allows the

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school employees may choose sexual partners from anyone over sixteen,

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provided the person is not enrolled as a student. The

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state does not stop its inquiry at the schoolhouse doors

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or school related functions or activities, but barges into the

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bedrooms and private spaces of a school employee to see

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if any of his or her personal time is spending

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a relationship with someone enrolled as a student. The state

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makes no inquiry as to whether the relationship was injurious

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to the senate or influenced or manipulated to acquiesce to

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any sexual contact. The state does not inquire into any

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facts around the relationship, but imposes strict liability upon school

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employees and no other profession to choose all love interests

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from those over age nineteen or from school dropouts over sixteen.

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The state might have easily amended the age of consent

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to nineteen or provided harsher sentences for any party who

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con coerces consent by abuse of authority but instead chose

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to unconstitutionally intrude upon the privacy of school employees. Privacy rights,

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including sexual autonomy, are among those guaranteed by the fourteenth

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Amendment of the Constitution. So all of that legal ease,

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which I know is kind of hard to keep up with.

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He's basically saying, hey, you know, he quotes the initial

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statute and that's what the law says, but it's actually

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unconstitutional because you're getting into the private life of someone,

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and moreover, the private sexual life of someone. That's reach right,

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He's reaching Mary. He's doing his job and trying to

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do it well and kind of make an argument against

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the law. That makes all the sense in the world

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to me, Jim, did you see what happened in Texas today?

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Wait before you tell me that, let me tell you

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what happened in New York. It cannot be as crazy

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as the case I told you about yesterday in Louisiana.

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this podcast. So the next big move to occur over

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this case occurs September sixteenth of twenty sixteen. Witt actually

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gets indicted by a grand jury on the charges that

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she was arrested on. And it's interesting and also plays

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a key role in this case that the very same day,

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another teacher, a teacher by the name of David Solomon,

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is also indicted. Now totally separate cases, totally separate schools

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as a matter of fact, but these two cases will

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intertwine as we go along. David Solomon of Huntsville, he

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was indicted for having sex with a seventeen year old

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female student while working at Faulkeville High School, which allegedly

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started while he was communicating with a student through Facebook.

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Now fast forward to June of twenty seventeen, and even

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though she has been indicted by a grand jury, meaning

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miss witt Wit continues to get paid. If you can

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believe that as a matter of fact, since her rest

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in March of twenty sixteen, she had been paid over

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forty thousand dollars from the school system. And get this,

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due to teachers receiving a four percent raise during the

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time after her rest, she also got the freaking pay raise.

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This teacher got a damn raise while being placed on

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leave for having sex with two male students. You cannot

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make that shit up. Now. This is the first time

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I have ever seen that. So not only that, but

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she was also allowed to stay on the school's health

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insurance plan. And remember that mail teacher that I mentioned,

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David Solomon and how he and wits case would intertwine, Well,

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they did intertwine around this point because he actually teams

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up with wit Remember that motion that I just read

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you challenging the constitutionality of their cases. He teams up

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with her on that and they go to war with

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the state challenging the constitutionality. And that was a big

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time reach for her attorney, right. Well, guess what they

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actually win that argument in a judge dismisses both of

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their cases. You cannot make that up either. So I'm

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going to read you a short article that really covers it. Well,

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it's by a writer by the name of Eric fleisch Hoer.

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It is from the Decatur Daily newspaper, and it reads

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headline Morgan judge dismisses sex with student cases, one involving

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Decatur High's whit. It goes on to say, in an

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order that could have statewide ramifications, a Morgan County judge

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today dismisscharges against two defendants charged with violating a law

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prohibiting school employees from having sex with student I could

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Court Judge Glenn Thompson ruled the law was unconstitutional as

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it applies to Kerry Witt, who at this time was

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forty four and a teacher at Decatur High School, and

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David Solomon, twenty seven, who was a contract teacher at

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Faultville High School. Says quote, this court acknowledges a disparity

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of power may inherently exist between a teacher's student relationship,

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but it clearly does not exist between every school employee

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and every student, regardless of where the student is enrolled.

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By eliminating the requirement that the state show a position

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of authority grooming, abuse, coercion, or lack of consent, the

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state criminalizes behaviors outside the state's legitimate purposes. I couldn't

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believe it when I read that, goes on to say.

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Morgan County District Attorney Scott Anderson said he respectively disagrees

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with the court's ruling. He said the state Attorney General's

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office and his office would file an appeal. Charged with

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two counts of a school employee having sex with a student,

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was suspended from her position on March twenty first of

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twenty sixteen and continues to draw salary from the school system.

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Witt is accused of having sex with a male student

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who was seventeen when the relationship started, and another male

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student who was eighteen. Police have said, and obviously there's

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a freaking discrepancy again. WIT's attorney, Robert Tooton, argued the

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students were not under her direct authority at the school

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and were above the state's legal age of consent, which

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is sixteen. Solomon was fired by the company he worked

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for after his March twenty ninth, twenty sixteen, arrisked on

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one count of a school employee having sex with a student. Solomon,

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who lives in Huntsville, was accused of having sex with

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a seventeen year old female student Heartsville Police Sergeant Alan

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mcderman said, today Solomon told at the same school which

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the student was enrolled quote they met at the school,

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but communicated through Facebook. Thompson dismissed the charges without prejudice,

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meaning the state can refile them quote. In order for

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justice to be served, Thompson wrote, the state must prove

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the defendant was actually in a position of authority over

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the victim and that that position of authority was abused

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to obtain consent. Thompson wrote that in finding the law

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and constitutional as applied to the defendants, this court does

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not endeavor to absolve any wrongdoing or excuse the defendants. Really,

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but you dismiss the whole fricking case. Wow. Now that

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is about as most wild a ruling as you will

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ever see. So, of course the state ain't gonna let

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this one go, as they said in that article, they

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start amping up for an appeal, but at this point

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Wit and Solomon, for that matter, are completely out of trouble,

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charges completely dropped, which just a week later that appeal

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does get filed. This is on all fourteenth of twenty seventeen.

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All of this time she was on the school's payroll.

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Now get this. By this time, despite being on leave,

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Witt had collected eighty nine thousand, seven hundred and thirteen

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dollars in salary and benefits. So because this case was

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being appealed, Witt remained on the payroll, but she could

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not return back to the school penning that appeal. In

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that appeal, it drags on by February of twenty eighteen,

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yet another pay raise, and it's not until August of

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twenty eighteen the school one day they receive a letter

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and that letter is from Carrie Whitt, and I'm gonna

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read that for you quickly. It says, dear doctor Douglas,

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and he was the head of the Decatur kind of Schools,

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Please accept this letter as my formal resignation from my

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position as history teacher at Decatur High School, effective immediately.

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It is unfortunate that an employment termination hearing is scheduled

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prior to my case being settled in a court of law,

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so they had a hearing set up to where they

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were looking to fire her, essentially. So it goes on

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to say, therefore, with much regret, I am forced to

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submit this request. At this time, I am deeply saddened

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to resign from the school system that I called my

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work home for twenty years as a dedicated employee and

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teaching leader. It is even more upsetting that I have

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not had a voice to defend my character against many

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unsubstantiated rumors and false allegations. Please view this letter as

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my response to the accusations against me. I deny having

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committed any crime or harm against a student, nor have

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I ever had an inappropriate relationship with a student, so

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she's not even taken responsibility for what she did here.

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I appreciate the opportunity given to me many years ago

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to serve as a teacher with the Decatur Schools System.

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Please shave this letter with the school board and or

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termination committee. Sincerely, carry Wit. So she has resigned at

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this point, and that means no more money for Carrie Wit,

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and that appeal drags on and by the point that

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she resigned. Incidentally, the school that paid her one hundred

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and forty two thousand, nine hundred and ninety two dollars

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in salary and benefits. That wasn't all cash, but it

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was one hundred thousand dollars in cash, and while being

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out on leave the entire time, and that is just

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unreal to me. And if you're in Alabama and you're

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listening to this, that ought to fire you up because

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guess what you paid that The state doesn't have no money.

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That's all tax money, right. So it's not long after

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that the Alabama Appeals Court they rule on that appeal

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in which Carrie Wit and Solomon's charges were dropped, and

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guess what, They completely reverse the lower court's ruling on

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the charges against both Wit and Solomon, saying that it

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was unconstitutional for them both to be arrested, and the

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charges are then laid back on the table. Now they're

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both scheduled for trial again. And in twenty twenty one,

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Wet just days out from her trial, two days from

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her trial, she cuts a deal. She cops a plee.

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She knows she's in for some shit and she was

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facing twenty years in prison, so she cops a deal

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because she's probably going to go to jail, and as

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part of that deal, she gets a ten year prison sentence. Now,

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eighteen months of that is actually in prison. Then it's

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followed by eighteen months in what's done as a community

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corrections program, which is like a halfway house. And the

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rest of that was like a sentence, but it was

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suspended so she wouldn't have to be in prison for long.

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Now as far as David Solomon, guess what, nothing out

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there I could find. So I just don't know whatever

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happened with David Solomon. If you're listening and you do,

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please message me and let me know and I'll keep

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my peeps updated on here. But there's one more surprise

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to this case. Remember that school had paid out over

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one hundred and forty two thousand dollars in salary and

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benefits to Miswit. Well, they wanted that back, and in

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twenty twenty two they actually sued Carrie Wit in court

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and in the end, Carrie Wit is ordered to pay

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back one hundred thousand dollars in restitution to Decatur District Schools.

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And that's the right decision. And shout out to them

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for chasing that and getting it back so the taxpayers

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could get their bunny back. I thought that was great.

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But as of today, Carrie Witt is out of jail

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and in the probation phase of her sentence, she's required

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to register as a sex offender throughout her probation, which

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is approximately five more years. And there you have it

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now on my Bad Teacher Consequence scale. I do this

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with all my Bad Teacher State Series episodes. State of Alabama.

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You get a C minus for the major screw up

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initially with this case. So there you have it. Another

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Bad Teacher State Series episode is beyond us the state

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of Alabama. Not sure where I'm going to go next

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time I join you. I do have some other cases

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