July 29, 2026

Emergency Episode: Enhanced Audio Call Released In Nolan Wells Case

Emergency Episode: Enhanced Audio Call Released In Nolan Wells Case
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Season 1
In this emergency episode, Jim Chapman breaks down the newly released “enhanced” emergency call placed by friends as the boat they were on was sinking and explains why this enhanced version may be creating more misinformation in this case.

On July 4, 2026, Nolan Wells, an 18-year-old Ocean Springs, Mississippi native and incoming freshman football player at Southwest Mississippi Community College, joined a group of friends for a boat trip to Horn Island, a wilderness barrier island off the Mississippi Gulf Coast. Thousands of people were on the island that day. According to his friends, the boat began taking on water that afternoon. They say Nolan chose to stay behind talking to a young woman while they returned to the mainland. His phone made it back. He did not.

Timestamps:
02:05 New Audio Emerges
06:12 Tow Call Transcripts
15:32 Audio Manipulation Debate
19:41 Enhanced Clip Claims
21:26 Witnesses and Video Proof
30:27 Nancy Grace
33:15 Toxicology Questions

Sources Include:
Officer Tatum Podcast
https://www.youtube.com/@TheOfficerTatum
Don Lemon
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1032245162784253
TMZ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ek0zYBk6NQQ
TMZ LINK 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGvxnsIdDHA

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Hey, everyone, Welcome back to Exposed Scandalous Files of the Elite.

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I'm your host, Jim Chapman, and I'm continuing with another

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episode of the Exposed Investigates series covering Nolan Wells. Now,

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as these cases that are open typically do, information comes

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out really fast and no sooner did I drop. I

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guess you could call it episode one of this series.

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Just a couple of days ago, my email became absolutely

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full of well what about this? What about that? More

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information coming out that was not available when I was

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recording the first step. So so I want to address

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that in some things some updated information that has came

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out today, and today being Wednesday, so you're going to

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hear this tomorrow, which is Thursday. Now, I told you

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at the beginning when I started this, when I was

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going to give you a whole different perspective than what

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was out there. The narrative of this whole thing, in

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my opinion at that time, was a racially motivated narrative,

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a race card, and I covered the many reasons that

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I believed personally it had nothing to do with race,

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especially as it related to those young people that were

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friends with no one that had been thrust into this

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and called every name in the book, including a racist,

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which I think is ridiculous, because you don't fish with somebody,

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you don't hang out with somebody, you don't chase girls

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with somebody if you don't like the color of their skin. Well,

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everything you're going to hear about today is new information

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that was received since that episode dropped just a couple

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of days ago. So let's get into it. And probably

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one of the biggest pieces of information that has come

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out just in the last day is the company that

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provided the towing service for these boats that have issues

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on the water. I touched on this in episode one,

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but they did receive a phone call from Nolan's friend

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who was on the boat with several other people because

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they thought that boat was going to sink. And I'm

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going to play that for you, and I want you

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to listen to the entire thing because that has been

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released as of yesterday, and it's very important that you

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listen to the entire thing. It's only like eight minutes

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long something like that, and I want you to think

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of it like a nine one one call. A lot

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of people don't know this, but when you call nine

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one one, they know the phone call is being recorded

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when nine one one one picks up. But what a

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lot of people don't realize is about the first eight

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seconds or so before that person on nine one one

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picks up, you can hear in the background what's going

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on with the person that is placing the call. And

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you're gonna hear that in this nine one one ish call.

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Now at the beginning of this clip, you're gonna hear

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some background music, because it's like when you call a hotel,

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for example, and they transfer you to a room, and

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there's like that elevator music that you hear while you're

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waiting to be transferred to someone's room. That's the music

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you're gonna hear at the beginning of the clib It

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ain't nothing Jim Chapman at it. You're also gonna hear

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the guy that initially places this call talking about a

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membership with this two company for boots, And I want

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you to think of that like a Triple A membership

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that you were, say you were getting your car towed

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and you were a member of Triple A and you

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call Triple A and you tell them you're broke down

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or something. This company caters towards its members it's kind

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of like a triple A for boats. So here it is.

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I'm gonna play that clip and then we're going to

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talk about it. Because it is the center of yet

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more information or misinformation. I should say that it's coming

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out and getting out in the public, and they don't

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know the other side of it.

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I sho cita USI sants VICKI speaking. How can I

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help you?

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Hey, we're the West tip of porn and uh our

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dollage stocks work and we're going we're thinking, can you

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all please.

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Can we have a membership?

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All right?

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Of course?

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How far is the word coming up? Sir? Can you

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give me a description? Ankles?

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Hey?

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Yes, how far is the water coming up? Sir?

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H it's coming up? It's it's we're just thinking. I

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don't know, like we're going down there.

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All right, Well, let's get you going. Membership number phone

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number listed on the count Sir, I.

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Don't know the number.

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It's it's either I think it's try that all right,

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I know we have.

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A membership like guaranteed.

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I don't do you have a membership number anything? It's okay,

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I'll get you over to the captain. What's the best

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wall number to reach you at.

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Reach me.

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All right? And is everybody on board and good health? Otherwise?

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All right? Do you need the United States Coast Guard?

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What do you need the United States Coast Guard?

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No, we do not need that, all right?

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All right? Do you have your current GPS coordinans?

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Well, let me go.

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If not, I can send you a text message.

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All right?

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Are you ready?

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Yes, I'm available nor.

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Bohee all right?

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Forty six seven to all right? And you were breaking

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up a little bit. Can you just repeat it one

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more time to make sure I have it correct?

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Sorry, lud hello, can you hear me? Yeah?

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What so you're breaking up? If you need assistant? Do

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you have a VHF radio that we do not have

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the VHF radio? All right, Well, let's try to get

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you going because you don't have good cell phone reception.

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Can you very if I your coordinates one more time?

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Okay?

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My cordons are thirty degrees by fourteen point six eight

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four north and then west by eighty.

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Eight degrees by forty six point seven nine.

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H right.

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It looks like you're on horn Island, correct?

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Are you an island? Yes?

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All right?

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Is the boat sinking or you have it a ground?

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We are sinking? Yes?

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Is it a ground? Is the question?

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Oh, we're not a ground.

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We are in okay, seventeen, we're in thirty one foot

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of water.

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All right, I have to act. What do you and

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what do you want to do? Do you want to

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be told back?

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I want to get this boat on sank and towed back? Yes,

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all right?

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What would you like it told to you?

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Sir?

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Can tow it to ocean springs or four value on.

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Right?

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How many adults and children on board? No, there's no children,

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so is there anybody on board? How many adults?

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Sir?

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That was the question, Hey, drop the.

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Hello? Can you hear me?

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Jump in and pull the plug while you're doing.

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Hello?

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Sir?

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Hello, yep.

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I just need you to answer these questions so I

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can get you over to the captain. How many adults

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on board?

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The adults on board?

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There's nobody on board the boat?

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No, nobody here is over the age of twenty one, sir.

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That was not the question. Is there a person? Is

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there a person, a living individual on the boat?

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Hello?

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Is there a living person? Someone breathing on the boat?

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Is there anybody on the boat?

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There's lots of people bringing on the bed.

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All right, how many people, sir like seven? All right?

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Thank you?

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Does everyone have life jackets on? Are available to those?

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We have white jackets available?

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All right? Verify what boat sinking?

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A triton twenty two foot offshore out twenty two foot

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tryon offshore seaflite hole.

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All right, all right, please hold. I'm transferring you to

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the local captain.

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Now, okay, thank you.

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Business captain.

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Hi captain stuff, This is Vicky from International. How you

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doing today? Good good? I apologize ahead of time. I

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I really do. You're gonna have a fee for service?

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Come up under.

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It.

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It sounds like a bunch of kids on board on

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Horn Island. He's letting me know that his father's a member,

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but he can't give me any information. And he's saying

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the boat is sinking and he's on Horn Island. It's

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just unfortunately he's just the kid. Is a lot going on.

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So he said, there's there's about a lot of people

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on board. He says, he thinks about seven. I'm guessing

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they're all under eighteen. And I'm not trying to be rude.

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He wants you guys to go out there and unpump

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the boat.

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And then tow it in you know what kind of

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do you know what kind of boat it is?

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He said, I have a try in twenty four futter,

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but that's all he can give me.

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Okay, all right, Yeah, I just actually got off the

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phone with his grandpa, who I'm guessing is the owner

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of the boat, and yeah, he said, okay, I literally,

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I mean I just hung up with him. He said

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that they don't need any help right now, but if

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something changes, they'll call me back. So I'm guessing that

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they may have figured it out, because that's what he said,

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that they're in a panic and their boat, they're in

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a panic.

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He's saying, the bill is not keeping up. I asked

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for coastguard. He said no, but he's just really upset

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on the back end. And you know, I get it

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as a kid, he just doesn't understand.

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Okay, do you still have him on the line.

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Yes, I still have him on the line. And again

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I kind of find he couldn't give me anything regarding

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his grandfather's you know, membership, so it's just under fee

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for service.

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Okay, all right, Yeah, I just talked to if you

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want to, I mean, I'm not we we're so tied

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up right now. We can't really do any no member

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jobs right now.

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Is remember did you find out if he was a

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member or not?

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Yeah, I'm not sure if it's his boat or what.

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I don't I'm not sure what's going on with it. Yeah,

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transfer of the kid over.

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I'll talk to him and then uh, and then i'll

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call his grandpa as well.

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All right, did you want me to look up membership

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number or anything like that to see if he's up?

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I know you guys are.

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Numbers, yes, sir, anything on the phone numbers?

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All right, yep, it's yeah, he's an active member.

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Hold on, what kind of booth you have?

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Yeah, he's one of your members. You have twenty two

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foot trying. All right, I'll just disregard this one. I'm

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gonna send you over an accurate one under this one. Okay,

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he's one of your members. You'll get in a couple

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of minutes.

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Okay, okay, perfect art and yeah, just transfer the kid

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every whenever you get a chance.

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All right, transferring now, thank you again, captain. All right,

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stays out there.

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It's crazy, all right, thank.

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You, thank you?

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Goodbye? Hello, Hello, are you there? I apologize I will

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be disconnecting due to lack a response.

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Now, before we break that down, you just got to

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kind of laugh at the response when she was trying

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to get out of this kid how many people were

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on the boat, and you know, obviously obviously all these

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kids have been drinking, and you could kind of tell

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the caller was struggling a little bit with understanding what

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she was asking him. She basically said, is there anybody

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breathing on the boat? And she was trying to get

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the number of people that are actually on the boat

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out of him, and he just couldn't articulate that very well,

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and she had to actually tell him is there anybody breathing?

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In his response was there's a lot of people breathing

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on the boat, like seven people. Now, I've been eighteen

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years old once. I could only imagine after having a

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few beers and trying to articulate everything accurately, and your

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boat is freaking sinking at this point, and you're trying

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to do this while probably trying to act completely sober

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because you don't want this lady to know you've been

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drinking and in this serious, horrific event. That was just

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something that I kind of flashed back to when I

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was eighteen one, So anyway, she puts him on hold.

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She calls whoever's going to tow them, and this guy reveals, Hey,

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I just talked to their grandfather and he said they

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don't need help. Apparently it was the grandfather's boat, and

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he was the one that was like a member of

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this organization that takes care of these boats that break

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down or might be sinking whatever. I don't have any

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evidence to back this up, but I would ascertain that

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they called the grandpa and he knew they had been

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drinking and the last thing he wanted was a towboat

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to go out there and find seven kids on a

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boat that are obviously drunk or drinking, and they get

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in more trouble than they need to get in. So

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I'm just spitballing here, but I would assume he told

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them exactly what I told you happened in episode one.

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They pulled the plug, they gunned to that boat, and

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they basically made all the water go out of the

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back of the boat, and then they stopped and they

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put the plug back in. But here's the cusp of

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what we're going to talk about today, and that is

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what actually happened. Shortly after that call got released, apparently

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an editor slash producer for a pretty major company. In

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my world, they started playing with the This person started

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playing with the audio because what they were trying to

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determine was what was being said before the dispatcher picked

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up the call to request a toe. And what this

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person did was they isolated the three audios you hear,

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which are the audio the dispatcher, the audio of the

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background before the dispatcher picks up, and the audio of

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the music playing that you heard at the beginning. Basically,

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they separate all this audio in a program to different audios.

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And I know I'm saying the word audio and I

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might have lost you already, but it makes sense to

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me because I do this every day. But they separate

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all of these different audio voices, and then they enhance

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the voices in the background using some programs, and they

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delete the music audio completely out of there.

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Now.

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I want to say this first because it's important and

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because I can speak on it as a professional audio

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engineer for other podcasts. When you enhance audio as you

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use certain programs to remove background noise, and then you

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take background noise and you enhance it, and you try

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to understand what it actually says, it will have the

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opposite effect. A lot of times, it will actually make

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it distorted in a way. And it's for that reason

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that I almost personally never use programs to block out

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background noise. I just control where I'm recording to where

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you don't hear background noise because I have a soundproof

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booth that I have built into my studio, so I

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don't have to do that, because the audio sounds garbly

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when you do that. Now, in this case, not only

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does this person do that, but they also create their

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own transcript of what they believe they are hearing when

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they enhance the audio, and then they had that transcript

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scroll across the screen as they're playing the enhanced audio.

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This is what I know of this situation. Now, human nature.

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When your brain sees something written and you're hearing in

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your ears what's being said, and it sounds similar, you're

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gonna really hear what the person who wrote the transcript

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wants you to hear, or what they believe they heard,

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because they sound similar and your eyes are looking at

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a transcript. Now, I'm not saying any of this was

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done for nefarious reasons, but when you find out the

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truth of this in a little while, and I'm gonna

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get to that. You're gonna understand exactly why I'm bringing

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all of this up. Now that brings me to Nancy Grace, who, man,

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she took this audio when it came out with the

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adjusted if you Will audio, and I'm gonna play that

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for you in a second. But she took that audio

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and she ran with it, breaking news, new audio in

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the Nolan Wells case, you know, with that sensationalized type

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of voice that she can sometimes have. And look, I

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am a Nancy Grace fan. I've been a Nancy Grace

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fan for a long time. Love Nancy Grace. But she's

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kimming and she makes mistakes like all of us do.

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And I'm gonna say up, there's some questions here, and

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she kind of ended up with a little bit of

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egg on her face in my opinion, after running with this. Now, look,

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she has a very successful show, tons of producers. I'm

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sure one of her producers just gave her this audio,

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didn't give her a whole lot of background on it,

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and she ran with it. But the problem is she

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has a huge audience. But I'm gonna play some clips

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of this audio that was released on her show. And

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this is keep in mind the enhanced audio. Listen to this.

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You tell us a sends VICKI speaking, how can I

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help you?

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So you heard that, and here is what you supposedly

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would hear according to the enhanced audio clip. This is

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the worrying that was playing. Is that clip was being played,

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Sure he's dead. Then you hear is he dead? Then

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you hear no, then you hear oh my god, and

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then you hear Nolan, don't die. And then the dispatcher

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picks up and talks to one of the young men.

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I didn't play you that part because I already played

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it for you earlier. Now, with that context of that wording,

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I just said, and I'm gonna say it again, Sure

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he's dead. Then you hear is he dead? Then you

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hear Nolan, then you hear oh my god, then you

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hear no, one don't die. So with that context, I

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want you to listen to it a second time.

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You tell us a Senceiviki speaking, how can I help you?

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Now, I want you to take out all the context

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in regards to the Nolan Wells case. I want you

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to just think of this as if it's some guys

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calling a voting company saying, hey, are boat is sinking.

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I want you to take out the fact that we

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know Nolan is now dead and some people were initially

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looking at these kids and having something to do with it.

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Take all that context out and I'm gonna play that

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clip for you a third time.

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You tell us the sensiviki speaking, how can I help you?

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So is it possible that they could have been talking

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about the batteries on the bilge pump being dead or

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other things to do with the boat that had nothing

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to do with Nolan Wells well TMZ shortly after this

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enhanced audio was released and everybody was running around saying,

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here it is. You can hear it right here in

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the in the audio, they come out with a tidbit

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of information and they release this. It's says evidence apparently

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shows Nolan Wells was still on Horn Island when his

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friend's boat left. TMZ has learned sources with direct knowledge

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of the investigation claim authorties had evidence of Nolan being

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on the Mississippi Barrier Island after the boat departed on

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the fourth of July, which would be a huge development,

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We're told meaning TMZ at least two witnesses who were

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interviewed by law enforcement say they saw Nolan on the

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island after the boat headed to the mainland. That's significant

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for many reasons. TMZ enhanced the audio of Nolan's friends

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frantic call for help when their boat was sinking, and

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people believe you can hear someone saying is he dead?

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But our sources tell us people that were on the

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actual boat also listen to the audio and are telling

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people around them the audio is only panic from the

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boat sinking, no references to Nolan Wells. So TIMS puts

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that out and everybody's like, holy smokes. There's two witnesses

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out there that have went on record with the police

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saying they saw Nolan Wells on the island after this

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boat left. Two things can't be true there, right, He

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couldn't have been on the boat dying if he was

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on the shore hours later after that boat left. But

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people do what they do, and if they want to

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see something a certain way, they start trying to poke

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holes in these witnesses. Hell, I've even seen people actually

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accuse these two witnesses who nobody knows who these people

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are outside of the police are being paid off to

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say that Nolan was actually on the island when he wasn't. Now,

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how the hell are they going to know that? How

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is anybody gonna know? Oh, well, he was paid off.

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How the hell is anybody gonna know? They ain't. Nobody

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gonna know that. They don't even know who the witnesses are.

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But one good thing is we live in a generation

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of video nowadays, and the people at the center of

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this case, they basically heard all these new accusations of

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this audio and them saying no one don't die and

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all these things, and they basically said, who WHOA Not

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so fast? We have video proof that no one was

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nowhere around or in that boat during the time in

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which we were making that call. Because the boat that

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was towing them, remember in episode one, I told you

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they didn't want to wait for a toe to come

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because they didn't know when that would be. So they

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have one of the other boats that was with them

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toe them and get them out of the I don't

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want to say harbor, but out of all the chaos

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of that island and far enough away where they could

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focus on pulling that plug and doing all the things

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they had to do to keep that boat from sinking. Well,

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the guy that was towing them, was filming while the

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guy on the boat was on the phone with the

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toe company, and they were getting all this set up

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and getting ready for him to toe them. And I'm

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going to reference another TMZ article that came out on

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that headline, Nolan Wells was not a board towed boat

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after emergency dispatch call. New video shows there's new video

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evidence that Nolan Wells was not a boarder his friend's

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boat when it was being towed from Horne Island, which

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backs up what two witnesses told law enforcement. Nolan was

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still on the island after the boat headed home. Never

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before seen video and photos appear to show Nolan's friends

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on the boat preparing to be towed back to that

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mainland without him. There are seven people on board and

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Nolan is not seen in the video, which was obtained

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by the officer Tatum Show. The footage seemingly confirms what

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we first reported. Sources with direct knowledge of the investigation

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told us authorities have evidence of Nolan being on Horn

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Island after that boat departed. On July fourth, Nolan's friends

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called for a tow, reporting their boat was taking on

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water due to a failed bilge pump and we heard

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audio of their panic call to a private towing service.

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We enhanced the audio from the call for help, and

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some people swear they heard someone saying is he dead.

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It's not clear if that was ever actually said, and

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our sources say the people on the boat deny it.

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In the video, the person standing on the helm and

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this is important, appears to be on the phone. Nolan's

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friends say they told him to get on the boat

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and leave with them, but he decided to hang back

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with another woman. Her sister claimed she was under the

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impression Nolan was leaving the boat and his friends weren't

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going to leave and behind. The boat was not towed

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by the private service. Another boat anchored on Horn Island

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told Nolan's friends instead, and they say they were eventually

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able to get the boat working and cruise back to

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the mainland without Nolan. Nolan's friends say they left Horn

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Island at four thirty pm, and they claim someone told

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them they saw Nolan at six pm on the Barrier Island.

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As you know, Nolan was reported missing and his body

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was found July sixth as it washed up on Horn

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Island near where he was last seen live. Mississippi authorities

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say they suspect Nolan drowned, but Nolan's family isn't buying it.

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They hired famed civil rights attorney Ben Crump and commissioned

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an independent autopsy, which said Nolan's cause and manner of

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death were undetermined pending investigation. The results of the initial

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autopsy conducted by the State Medical Examiner's office are still pending.

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And that's the article. So there you have that, folks.

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You got two witnesses on record statements to police saying

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they saw Nolan Wells on that island after that boat left.

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And now we have video proof with this guy actually

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talking to the dispatcher and no one is nowhere on

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the boat or anywhere around it. I've seen this video.

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But incidentally, in the background of this video you can

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see a hundred boats in the background. They're still in

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the not harbor, but the Barrier Island area, preparing to

481
00:28:29.319 --> 00:28:34.079
be towed off. So regardless of what people are being told,

482
00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:38.960
no matter what we know, we know now this wasn't

483
00:28:39.079 --> 00:28:43.640
the case because of the video proof that we now have.

484
00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:47.920
But that's how quick things can get twisted. And then

485
00:28:47.960 --> 00:28:52.519
you have someone of Nancy Grace's caliber taking this and

486
00:28:52.720 --> 00:28:55.920
running with it with an audience acize that she has.

487
00:28:56.119 --> 00:28:59.480
I'm sorry, I think whoever her producer is should have

488
00:28:59.519 --> 00:29:03.200
done a little more research or maybe held off on

489
00:29:03.359 --> 00:29:06.359
that until we have more information before putting it out there,

490
00:29:06.759 --> 00:29:09.960
because that's how rumors start, and that's how the truth

491
00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:14.160
gets twisted in people's mind. And I think most people

492
00:29:14.640 --> 00:29:18.440
have a genuine honesty in this case. They just want

493
00:29:18.480 --> 00:29:21.680
to get to the truth. And I'm look, people make mistakes.

494
00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:25.480
Nancy fucked up here in my opinion, But because that

495
00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:28.279
video coupled with the fact that you got two witnesses

496
00:29:28.359 --> 00:29:32.759
that debunks everything in that particular episode that she put out,

497
00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:36.559
all of us want to get to the truth. Rumors

498
00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:41.680
don't help. Playing with audio doesn't help, this is my opinion. Now,

499
00:29:41.839 --> 00:29:45.400
Also in this particular episode, Nancy goes on and kind

500
00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:49.160
of doubles down on some of these theories, and she

501
00:29:49.400 --> 00:29:52.440
actually has the audacity, and this kind of pissed me

502
00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:55.160
off because I think this is pretty audacious of her

503
00:29:55.680 --> 00:29:59.599
in my opinion, to say it makes her think that

504
00:29:59.759 --> 00:30:06.119
the whole boat sinking story was totally untrue because she

505
00:30:06.319 --> 00:30:09.839
heard the audio and she's hearing what some people are

506
00:30:09.960 --> 00:30:13.240
saying was sending this video. Now we know now that

507
00:30:13.400 --> 00:30:17.039
that was all bullshit, but at the time we didn't.

508
00:30:17.519 --> 00:30:21.039
And she goes as far as to say, well, they

509
00:30:21.319 --> 00:30:26.079
weren't really sinking. Don't listen to me. Listen to her

510
00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:27.559
say it out of her own mouth.

511
00:30:28.039 --> 00:30:31.440
So it doesn't sound to me, Dave Mack, that the

512
00:30:31.519 --> 00:30:34.759
boat was sinking, because they're going all over in the boat.

513
00:30:34.880 --> 00:30:38.119
So if the boat's not sinking, why the sea tow call,

514
00:30:38.200 --> 00:30:39.200
why the distress call.

515
00:30:40.279 --> 00:30:42.799
Yeah, Nancy, the one thing you have to remember on

516
00:30:42.920 --> 00:30:45.559
that first seatow call, you know, you hear them saying

517
00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:47.759
we're in thirty feet of water, we're sinking. We need

518
00:30:47.839 --> 00:30:49.359
to be unsync and towed.

519
00:30:49.839 --> 00:30:52.119
But if you follow along.

520
00:30:51.839 --> 00:30:55.480
With that communication, the seatow company reaches out to a

521
00:30:55.559 --> 00:30:58.640
local captain nearby and says, hey, we've got a boat.

522
00:30:58.720 --> 00:30:59.720
Can you go take a look.

523
00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:04.279
And the captain nearest to the boat says, hey, I

524
00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:06.400
just got a call from the owner of that boat.

525
00:31:06.640 --> 00:31:10.839
He says they've resolved the problem and don't need us anymore. So,

526
00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:14.440
and this happened during the course of ten minutes, Nancy,

527
00:31:14.839 --> 00:31:18.480
So they're calling for help and then not calling for help.

528
00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:22.799
So something was definitely going on with this tritened twenty

529
00:31:22.839 --> 00:31:25.640
one foot that they cannot explain.

530
00:31:25.920 --> 00:31:29.119
So when Nancy Grace is saying this boat must not

531
00:31:29.279 --> 00:31:33.200
have been sinking, in my opinion, to me, that's the

532
00:31:33.359 --> 00:31:37.799
exact same thing as saying these kids must have had

533
00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:42.200
something to do with Nolan's death, because why else would

534
00:31:42.200 --> 00:31:45.759
you lie about the boat sinking and folks that ain't helping.

535
00:31:46.440 --> 00:31:50.200
I want the police focusing on the right suspect. If

536
00:31:50.240 --> 00:31:53.559
there was some foul play here, don't waste your time

537
00:31:54.000 --> 00:31:57.440
focusing on seven kids or ten kids, or however many

538
00:31:57.799 --> 00:32:01.119
that had nothing to do with this. If somebody did

539
00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:04.200
have something to do with this, they're out there still

540
00:32:05.440 --> 00:32:09.440
nobody's looking at them apparently. Now, the problem with this theory,

541
00:32:09.759 --> 00:32:11.920
if you will, is that when that video came out

542
00:32:11.960 --> 00:32:14.119
and it showed the boat sinking and all these kids

543
00:32:14.240 --> 00:32:16.759
running around it with ropes and everything else trying to

544
00:32:16.839 --> 00:32:21.000
keep it afloat, is it debunked it completely. And when

545
00:32:21.079 --> 00:32:24.000
she reported it, when Nancy reported it, there was no

546
00:32:24.319 --> 00:32:29.319
video anybody had of this or that anybody was aware

547
00:32:29.400 --> 00:32:32.279
of that I know of. But that's the problem when

548
00:32:32.319 --> 00:32:34.599
you don't have all the information. That's why you have

549
00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:38.559
to be real careful of what you accuse people of

550
00:32:39.119 --> 00:32:41.880
without having all the information. I'll be curious to see

551
00:32:41.920 --> 00:32:46.759
if Nancy issues some sort of apology for being wrong

552
00:32:47.799 --> 00:32:51.640
and putting it out there and saying I made a mistake,

553
00:32:51.759 --> 00:32:54.160
and I'll say it again. I'm a Nancy Grace fan,

554
00:32:54.359 --> 00:32:57.279
always have been, think she does great work, and none

555
00:32:57.279 --> 00:32:59.079
of us are perfect, so I don't think any of

556
00:32:59.160 --> 00:33:02.880
that was intentional, But I would like to see her

557
00:33:02.920 --> 00:33:07.440
come out and apologize for accusing these kids of lying

558
00:33:07.559 --> 00:33:11.759
about their boat sinking. You got to have all the context, folks,

559
00:33:11.960 --> 00:33:16.759
to make an educated statement like that. So moving a

560
00:33:16.839 --> 00:33:19.240
little bit beyond that, I want to talk a little

561
00:33:19.240 --> 00:33:23.440
bit about the toxicology report that has played a really

562
00:33:23.599 --> 00:33:27.000
huge piece in this case. Now many people are wanting

563
00:33:27.119 --> 00:33:30.680
to know how drunk Knowing Wells was. He was for

564
00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:33.960
sure drinking, and we know that for sure because there

565
00:33:34.000 --> 00:33:37.359
are several pictures of him that day with friends and

566
00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:39.400
he's sold them like a beer in his hand, some

567
00:33:39.559 --> 00:33:41.960
sort of alcohol in his hand. I totally get it.

568
00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:45.880
I was eighteen once, no problem whatever. But of course

569
00:33:46.440 --> 00:33:49.960
this doesn't tell you how much he was drinking. Now,

570
00:33:50.079 --> 00:33:52.920
witnesses on the boat that were there with him, they

571
00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:57.000
say he was drinking pretty heavily. But apparently, you know,

572
00:33:57.200 --> 00:34:00.160
some people are struggling to believe anything that the these

573
00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:03.119
kids on the boat say. So we're gonna throw all

574
00:34:03.200 --> 00:34:06.119
that out. We're gonna assume they never said one way

575
00:34:06.200 --> 00:34:09.519
or the other. A toxicology report is going to prove

576
00:34:09.559 --> 00:34:14.639
all that right, well actually wrong. In reality, we're never

577
00:34:14.760 --> 00:34:18.239
gonna know how drunk Nolan Wells was, or if he

578
00:34:18.400 --> 00:34:21.360
was even drunk at all. And I want to explain

579
00:34:21.400 --> 00:34:25.199
to you why when you die and you go through

580
00:34:25.360 --> 00:34:32.360
a decomposition stage, bacteria is going to actually raise your

581
00:34:32.800 --> 00:34:37.400
blood alcohol level. So technically, if you've been in the

582
00:34:37.480 --> 00:34:40.599
water for a couple of days post mortem, your blood

583
00:34:40.639 --> 00:34:43.320
alcohol level is gonna be very high. Even if you

584
00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:47.519
don't have any drinks, even not one drink, it's gonna

585
00:34:47.519 --> 00:34:51.119
look like you were totally plastered. Now, to combat this,

586
00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:55.800
many times, medical examiners they're gonna use fluid from your

587
00:34:55.920 --> 00:34:59.920
eyes rather than your actual blood to measure your alcohol

588
00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:03.840
content because it's not as susceptible, if you will, to

589
00:35:03.960 --> 00:35:08.119
bacteria as your blood would be. However, with several days

590
00:35:08.239 --> 00:35:12.000
having passed since Nolan Well's died, combined with the fact

591
00:35:12.440 --> 00:35:15.079
that he was in the ocean for several days. No

592
00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:18.360
matter what they do, Folks, we'll never know the answer

593
00:35:18.440 --> 00:35:21.639
to that question if that test came out, because they'll

594
00:35:21.679 --> 00:35:23.599
test for it. And when it comes out, if it

595
00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:26.639
says his blood alcohol content was point four to zero,

596
00:35:27.079 --> 00:35:31.599
it's meaningless because technically, after two days he could have

597
00:35:31.760 --> 00:35:35.000
that level and not have even had one drink. That's

598
00:35:35.239 --> 00:35:39.880
just facts. But you can test for drug content. It

599
00:35:39.960 --> 00:35:45.039
doesn't affect things like marijuana, cocaine, fentanyl, things like that.

600
00:35:45.719 --> 00:35:48.079
So while there will never be an answer to the

601
00:35:48.239 --> 00:35:52.360
alcohol content or how much he drank outside of what

602
00:35:52.519 --> 00:35:56.360
the witnesses are saying, the drug side will be accurate.

603
00:35:56.639 --> 00:36:00.239
Pay attention to that sentence. I just told you the

604
00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:05.000
drug side of that will be accurate because there was

605
00:36:05.079 --> 00:36:08.559
a bad actor on the island that day, and that's

606
00:36:08.599 --> 00:36:12.519
all I'm comfortable was saying at this point. But when

607
00:36:12.599 --> 00:36:17.719
that comes out, and I wish these toxicology reports could

608
00:36:17.719 --> 00:36:21.039
be faster, I don't understand why we can put someone

609
00:36:21.119 --> 00:36:23.079
on the moon in three days, or at least fly

610
00:36:23.239 --> 00:36:25.960
around one end of it, but it takes six to

611
00:36:26.039 --> 00:36:29.519
eight weeks to get those reports back. I never understand

612
00:36:29.559 --> 00:36:32.519
that it is what it is, but when that comes out,

613
00:36:32.800 --> 00:36:36.039
pay special attention to the drug content. And I'm going

614
00:36:36.079 --> 00:36:39.679
to go ahead and end this update for today, but

615
00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:43.239
I want to say this. I want justice for Nolan

616
00:36:43.280 --> 00:36:47.320
Well's family more than anything, and the only way to

617
00:36:47.440 --> 00:36:51.639
do that, The only way to get justice is to

618
00:36:51.800 --> 00:36:57.960
speak truth to power. Rumors and window and bullshit and

619
00:36:58.159 --> 00:37:05.559
theories don't help. Truth never changes. Remember that the truth

620
00:37:06.119 --> 00:37:09.599
will always be the truth. And when I see people

621
00:37:09.719 --> 00:37:13.719
trying to twist facts, or maybe not even trying, maybe

622
00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:17.639
they just had the facts wrong, I consider it my

623
00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:22.400
responsibility to set the record straight and I'm not gonna

624
00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:26.079
quit doing that. Thank you so much for listening. Check

625
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627
00:37:36.119 --> 00:37:39.400
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