July 27, 2026

Exposed Investigates: The Nolan Wells Case

Exposed Investigates: The Nolan Wells Case
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Season 1

On July 4, 2026, Nolan Wells, an 18-year-old Ocean Springs, Mississippi native and incoming freshman football player at Southwest Mississippi Community College, joined a group of friends for a boat trip to Horn Island, a wilderness barrier island off the Mississippi Gulf Coast. Thousands of people were on the island that day. According to his friends, the boat began taking on water that afternoon. They say Nolan chose to stay behind talking to a young woman while they returned to the mainland. His phone made it back. He did not.

Jim Chapman lays out the full timeline, the witness statements, the independent autopsy findings, and every major development as of this recording, late July 2026—and without speculation, without the hype, just the facts as they stand while the investigation continues.

Timestamps:
00:23 Disappearance
03:16 Horn Island Trip
07:26 Boat Trouble At Sea
14:35 Missing By Nightfall
17:23 Search And Recovery
23:19 Body of Nolan Wells Identified
27:27 Ben Crump Enters The Case
32:25 Independent Autopsy
36:37 Forensic Explanation
44:11 Current Status And Theories

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The Megyn Kelly Show
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Officer Tatum Podcast
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https://www.foxnews.com/us/governor-blames-activists-nolan-wells-case-stoking-division-official-says-fbi-probing-threats

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Hey, everyone, Welcome back to Exposed Scandalous Files of the Elite.

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I am your host, Jim Chapman, and today I am

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investigating what we know as it relates to the case

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that is absolutely everywhere right now, and that is the

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case of Nolan Wells. Now, for those of you who

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may not be familiar with this case, Nolan Xavier Wells

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was an eighteen year old from Ocean Springs, Mississippi. He

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was a recent graduate of Ocean Springs High School and

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he was a college freshman and also a wide receiver

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at Southwest Mississippi Community College. He was very well respected,

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very popular, very well put together young man in the

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prime of his life.

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Now.

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On July fourth of twenty twenty six, he joined some

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friends on a boat trip to what is known as

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Horn Island. This is a popular, undeveloped barrier island. It's

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about eight to ten miles off the coast of Mississippi.

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He was last seen around three PM near the northwestern

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tip of that island, wearing blue swim trunks. Later that afternoon,

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his friends returned to the mainland without Nolan Wells and

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his mother, Christine Wansley. She reports him missing later that night,

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after a friend called around eleven PM. This would launch

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a multi agency search involving the Jackson County Sheriff's Office,

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the US Coast Guard, National Park Service, and volunteers like

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the Cajun Navy, and on the morning of July, a

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park ranger would discover a body matching Wells description, face

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down in the water near a shoreline at the island's

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northwestern tip. It was positively identified through his dental records

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the following day. Now, what has occurred since, well a

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frenzy to get answers, and in the midst of all

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of this, in my opinion, the memory of this young

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man is getting tarnished along the way that again, in

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my opinion, has been launched by people who, despite what

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they are saying to me, it does not appear as

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though they have the family's best interest at heart. And

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that's just my thoughts on the outside. So today what

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you're gonna hear is a complete other side of this,

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based completely off the witnesses that were there that day,

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not conjecture, not hyperbole, just the facts as presented by

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those who are in the center of this case, a

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case that they never thought they would find themselves in,

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and It's important to say that this is the direct

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account of Nolan's best friend and his exact recollection of

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these events. So let's get into it, and we're going

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to start off on the day of July fourth, twenty

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twenty six, and Nolan Wells with a group of twenty

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to thirty friends. They were all excited to bring in

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America's two hundred and fiftieth birthday by heading out to

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a popular spot called Horn Island. Now, this trip had

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been planned for weeks and everyone was excited. They had

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been there before, as a matter of fact, July fourth

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of the previous year, all of them, including Nolan Wells.

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They were a very tight.

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Knit group, and it consisted of both white kids and

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black kids. And I mentioned this because there are so

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many inaccurate, frustrating reports going around right now that Nolan

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was the only black kid among this group of friends.

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That is what we call in the industry a lie.

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It's not true. There were mixed race kids and there

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were other black kids in that friend group, this large

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friend group, not a small friend group. Now amongst this

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large group of friends was his best friend, who is

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in fact white, and they head out to this island.

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So that day, three boats in these twenty plus peeps,

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they all had that way, all great friends. And this

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was after they all met up at what is known

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as Fort Wyatt boat launch. They all leave that boat,

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they arrive at the island at the very same time.

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And when they get there, it is freaking packed. We're

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talking three thousand plus people on this island, completely circling

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in and y'all. This to to miles is how big

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this island is.

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And it was so packed.

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The boats alone that were out there, they were parked

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three deep, if you will, completely circling this island. And

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the area of the island where Nolan was with this

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massive group of friends, there was approximately one thousand people

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in that area.

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And that's important because when you.

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Hear reports from certain individuals, they allude to or they

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caused people to believe Nolan Wells was on this deserted

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island with three or four white dudes, and that is

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a total lie because it just ain't true. Thousand people

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just on his side of the island. So the boys

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get there in it's party city, right. All of these kids,

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I am sure, are loving it. You're having some beers,

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You're seeing pretty ladies and bikinis. You're eighteen years old.

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What could be better? You got great music, you're having

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a great time on the water, which incidentally great day

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for both. Water was relatively flat and calm. On the

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way in, there was plenty of sunshine. And when they

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get there around ten thirty am, the party's already hopping.

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Thousands of people. And this is a massive island, y'all.

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I keep pressing that, but keep that in mind. This

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is not a little sandbar. That's a football field wide.

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So they tie up the boats and some people stay

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on the boats, and most people jump right in the water,

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which it's about waste deep to chest deep depending on

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where you're standing in that water. There are some steep

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drop offs as you walk along that island, and.

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These kids they do what kids do.

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The crowd gets larger. Other friends would arrive in different boats,

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and so everyone is kind of traveling throughout the water.

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Picture of that boats everywhere, kids waste deep water to

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chest deep water, walking from boat to boat. Hey man,

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I ain't seen you since high school. Those sorts of things,

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talking to everybody. And again, these are people from this area,

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a lot of them from the Ocean Springs area, and

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they knew these islands. They didn't just party there. They

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fished there during the weekend, some of them even during

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the week Everyone's drinking, having a good time, including Nolan.

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According to reports, they're taking selfies, they're smiling from ear

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to ear, nobody pissed, nobody having a bad time. So

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let's fast forward to about three o'clock or so that

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day and the boat Nolan was in, out of the

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three associated with their friend group, starts taking on water. Now,

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to explain this, what basically occurred is when you have

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these parties, or if a bunch of people are getting

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in and out of your boat, Okay, you're going to

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take on water into that boat as people step in

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and out, and as people are stepping in, water's coming

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in with them. And the more people you have in

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the boat, the more the boat sinks in to the water. Right,

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that water would kind of splash into the bilge area

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of that boat, where the motor is located and the

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transom and all those sorts of things. The bilge area

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is where the batteries are located. And this is completely

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normal with any boat that you got to kind of

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watch that, and that's why they make bilge pumps because

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it pumps the water out of the bilge. It just

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flushes it out of there. So one of these kids

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goes back there during this time and he notices, huh,

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there's a lot of water back here. And he also

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notices that this water is getting really close to the batteries,

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which you definitely do not want. That's kind of an

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emergency that we need to get this water out of here.

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The boat is sinking. So they also tried to trim

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the boat motor down, which basically means put the boat

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motor into the water and it wouldn't trim down. So

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they've got a problem. Now their motor won't trim down,

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and it's panic city. These kids are like, holy crap,

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this boat is actually sinking. So at this point, one

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of the friends looks over at Nolan and he's got

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a girl in his arms and her name is Katie,

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beautiful girl, his age, and they had just met from

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what I understand that day, and he tells Nolan, hey,

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we got to go, bro, the boat's about to sink.

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And Nolan, being like any other eighteen year old in

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the world who has a beautiful girl that he just met,

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that he's trying to talk to. He's like, y'all, go ahead,

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I'm gonna stay on the island. I'll catch a ride

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back with somebody else. Something important to mention here. All

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these kids knew each other. Obviously, that thirty person friend

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group were really good friends. But there were people all

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over that island they knew and they were talking to,

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and so it is common for these guys and gals

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to get rides back with other boats.

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And I don't blame Nolan. He's got a beautiful girl

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there he's trying to talk.

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To y'all go ahead, I'm gonna stay behind and see

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what's up his friends. Meanwhile, they were kind of in

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real trouble there with this boat. So they do some

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working on the boat. This takes some time. Nobody's concentrating

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at this point on Noling. He's already decided he getting

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back on the boat. So they're focusing on keeping this

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boat from sinking. They call some friends of theirs who

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had other boats, and they're like, hey, can you tow

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us kind of out a little bit away from all

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this frenzy of people, And they had a plan. Their

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plan was we're going to pull the plug out of

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the boat and we're going to like floor this thing,

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not floor it, but you know, full throttle because you

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have a boat, we're going to go full throttle. We're

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going to do what is known and boating is planing

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out and that water is going to run out of

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that plug. And at that point you stop the boat

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and then you jump in the water and you put

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the plug back in and your gut.

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How do I know this so?

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Well, many years ago, as a matter of fact, I

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might have.

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Been eighteen at that time.

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Me and my best friend at that time, we're going fishing.

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And what is none as Lake Verrett in South Louisiana,

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and we go out there and we go fishing. Now,

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one thing about Lake Verrette is it's full of gators.

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I mean full of gators, but it's got great fishing.

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So we're out there, we're fishing in Lake Verrett. I'm

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not kidding you when I say every two feet there

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was an alligator sunning on the banks of this massive

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Lake Verrette. But we're South Louisiana boys, right, Alligators don't

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bother us as long as they're not chewing on us.

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And so we're fishing. We're having a great time. Well,

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both of us get a bite at the same time.

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And we're fishing in what's none as all well boats.

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This is like a.

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Fifteen foot all welled aluminum boat.

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My friend is on the back of the boat.

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I'm on the front, and I make a big mistake,

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and that is I went to the back of the

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boat to try to catch my should roll it in.

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My friend was already back there, and the whole back

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of the boat sunk. The whole motor almost went underwater.

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Now my friend, who was smarter than me then and

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smarter than me now, knew exactly what to do. And

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the first thing he says to me is get to

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the front of the boat now. And to explain to you,

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we were both big guys at that time. My friend

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was actually a strong safety for LSU. He was playing

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for LSU at that time. My best friend and I

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was about two hundred and twenty pounds at that time,

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built like a brick shit house, and so we were

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a lot of weight back there. When you have us

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and a boat motor. So I run to the front

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of the boat. He jumps out of the boat with

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the ongerators in the water, pulls the plug, jumps back

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in and we full throttle and planed out and all

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that water went out of that plug. We did the

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exact same thing they did. Now, the time that had

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passed between the time that they noticed the boat was

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sinking and they got to a point where they could

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plan out and get that water after they took off

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was about an hour and a half. They actually left

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at four thirty from that island, and that's important because

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the last time that they saw Nolan was around three o'clock.

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And these are from all reports of these kids of

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this friend group.

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All of them say three o'clock.

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There's no conflicting story there. So they leave, and again

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I need to say, Nolan elected to remain on the island,

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and that island at the time still not deserted. When

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they left, there was as many people there as when

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they got there. And it's at this point I want

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to address something else that has been totally misrepresented by

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the people who apparently have never been boating before and

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partied on a sand bar. And when you're doing this,

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you don't take your cell phone.

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Off the boat.

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Yes, it's true cell phones or waterproof, but I don't

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know many people that want to test that theory. Number one,

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especially in salt water. But I'll take it even a

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step further. If you drop your phone ten miles off

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shore into the ocean where the water you're standing in

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is waist deep to chest deep, depending on where you're standing,

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it's gone bye by a cell phone. And everybody who

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boats with any regularity, and Nolan would be included in that,

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knows that. The fact is, at the point that boat

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was about to sink, no one, including Nolan, was thinking

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about Nolan's cell phone. So that's why the phone was

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still on the boat. Now, no one stays behind his

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friends at the time they get that idea to get

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another boat to tow them away. Of course they pull

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the plug and they head back to mainland. So the

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day goes into night and no One's bestie at some

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point he's like, man, no one never came by to

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get his cell phone or his keys, which he didn't

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take his keys with him booting, because again, you're not

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gonna risk losing your keys out there. What if you

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drop your keys in the water.

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These things are.

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Thought of by people that grew up in boats. They

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know those things. You don't need your keys out there.

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Your car's not out there.

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You're in a boat.

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It makes complete sense, but of course some of the

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media and some of the people involved in this case

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bring that up as if something nefarious is going on

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with that. It is not as completely normal for people

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that actually boat. But around eleven o'clock PM, his best

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he gets really concerned. He tells another friend. He says,

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I'm gonna call Nolan's mom and see if she knows

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what's up. Now, he didn't have Nolan's mom's cell phone number.

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He actually called someone else to get that. He then

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calls Nolan's mother, tells her, hey, we don't know where

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Nolan's at. If you heard from him his mother. I

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don't know exactly how she responded back, but I'm assuming

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she said no, I didn't realize he was missing. And

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so they have that conversation. He hangs up, and then

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the second thing he did his best he was he

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called the coastguard. And it's important to note at this

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point he is not thinking Nolan is dead. He's more

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along the lines of thinking that maybe whatever group that

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he decided to boat back with, maybe they had a

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breakdown on the boat that happens all the time, y'all

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all the time, or maybe he got stuck out there. Somehow,

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maybe he could find someone to bring him back. Whatever

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it was, he wanted to get to the bottom of it.

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His best friend, the one that they were originally accusing

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of having something to do with his death, same one

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that called Nolan's mother. Let me tell you something, if

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you had something to do with somebody's death, the last

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thing you're going to do is call the person's mother.

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That's absolutely ridiculous. So his best he.

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Calls the coastguard, and in the meantime between all of this,

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Nolan's mother she reports him missing to authorities. This is

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around eleven forty nine PM on July fourth, so as

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you would expect, the morning of July fifth rolls around.

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It'd be real hard to search out there at night.

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Early in the morning, all hands are on.

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Deck, including his bestie and his group of friends that

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went out there the night before. They all head out

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to the island to search. Nolan's father also went out

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by boat early that morning with Nolan's football coach to

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search themselves. Multiple other agencies and private vessels were also

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on the scene or arriving. You're talking the National Park Service,

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Jackson County Vessels, Biloxi Fire Civil Air Patrol planes, Jackson

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County helicopters, and later in the day, the family, and

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this is important to mention, the family of Nolan Wells

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contacts the United Cajun Navy, which is based out of

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where I am recording this episode right now, to help

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with the search effort. So everyone was in on finding

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this young man. Also, all the friends who were with Nolan,

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they get interviewed during this time, and Nolan's mother would

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post a public appeal for any information on what happened

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to her son. Now, there's something I intentionally skipped over

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that I'm going to tell you about right now. I

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mentioned earlier that Nolan's keys and cell phone were still

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with his friend group. Well around eleven oh seven pm

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on July fourth, after Nolan's family checked the locations for Nolan,

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his mother apparently had Life three sixty or someone in

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his family did. They were able to track the location

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of the phone and it showed that phone back on land. Now,

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the mother of Nolan's close friend, Javon, who was also

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friends with Nolan's best friend. He the mother of Javon,

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as well as like eight kids, they show up to

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go pick up the phone. At these friends' house. But

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what strange is they basically bust in the door. They

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didn't even knock, scare the shit out of the kids,

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to be quite honest, and they demanded this phone, which

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these kids got no problem with that.

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They hand over the phone.

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There's some reports out there that say Nolan's father in

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the meantime, was trying to get Nolan's keys, and according

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to reports, he had said, and I don't have any

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verification on this, but according to reports from others, he

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had said that they kind of gave him some shit

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about the keys. They didn't give him any shit about

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the keys. They couldn't find the keys initially, they didn't

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know where Nolan had left them in the house.

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Someone all of a.

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Sudden figures out, Oh, they're on top of the Xbox,

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the gaming system. They give him the keys and he leaves.

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They had no reason to keep his vehicle or keep

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his cell phone, and they give all that over. But

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it has been twisted to where it's contributed to this

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narrative that we're going to get into now. Once the

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phone was recovered, the family said they went through it

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and they found no photos or no saved snaps from

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July fourth, on his Snapchat accounts, which they say was

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unusual for him. He typically documented these social gatherings like

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kids do. They said they opened it before the normal

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twenty four hour expiration window for snaps, and they kind

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of view this as concerning, and I get that from

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a family standpoint, but they automatically jumped to, oh, someone's

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deleted all of his snaps. However, all these fronts and

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his friend group totally deny this, and they all state,

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we didn't even know Nolan's password for his phone to

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get into it. And how many people out there would

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know your friend's passwords to their phone. I got hundreds

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of friends. I don't know none of their password, and

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even if they did, they said, we don't have any

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reason to do that, and I believe them. The rest

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assured nothing is really deleted on a cell phone that

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the police can't extract later on. So don't be shocked,

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folks when they're able to extract cell phone information and

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figure out there's nothing out of pocket here. So let's

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go to Sunday, July sixth, around eight forty five am,

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a Jackson County sheriff named John Ledbetter. He confirmed authorities

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have received a call reporting a body had been found,

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and it's been reported that a US Park Service ranger

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discovered the body of Nolan Wells on the north ward

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western tip of Horn Island in the water along the

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shoreline in the same general area where Nolan was last

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reported seen on July fourth.

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And it was also mere strong rip.

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Currents on that island, and now the body was faced down.

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Nolan was wearing only swim trunks, blue swim trunks, which

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were consistent with what he was last seen and photographed

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wearing earlier on July fourth. And there was a conflicting report.

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The United Cajun Navy, the head of that actually originally

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said he was fully clothed. Now he was up in

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a helicopter hundreds of feet up right, so he can

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only see so much. But he misstated and said he

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was fully clothed. He was not, and he recanted that later.

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The second he did that, all of a sudden people

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were saying the United Cajun Navy.

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Had something to do with it. Insanity. We'll get into

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that later.

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But Nolan's family, they get asked to come out to

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the boat lawn. They were met by the sheriff and

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the corner This is just after.

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Eleven am that day. The body then.

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Gets transported to the corner's office in Pasagoula.

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This is just before one.

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Pm that day, and it wasn't long later that the

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family confirmed on social media the body found was Knowing.

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Now early the next day the identification was confirmed via

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dental records by the corner. So early official statements at

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that time indicated no apparent signs of foul play at

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the scene, and that drowning was suspected, which unfortunately is

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not rare in that area. And before I get into that,

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let me tell you they're basically looking at this body.

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They didn't see any gunshot wounds, they didn't see any

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obvious signs of trauma, they didn't see any stab wounds,

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things like that. But an autopsy, an in depth autopsy,

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would take place. Now in the meantime, something about that

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island in particular, there are at least a couple of

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drownings in this area every single year due to the

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rip currents that exist exactly and especially in that spot

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where Nolan Wells was found. Now, at this point, the

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family they wanted to do the exact thing I would

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have wanted to do. They want to get an independent autopsy,

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which I totally get it.

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This is your baby.

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You want to make sure not only that someone didn't

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totally screw up, but that nothing nefarious is going on

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or nothing got missed.

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And Con Kaepernick, the former.

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Quarterback for the forty nine ers, he says, hey, he

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stepped up and said hey, I'll pay for it. And

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I think that's pretty awesome of him, now, y'all. By

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this time, this story was everywhere, and I was following along,

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and I was absolutely elated that they had found this

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young man, but there where he saddened that he was

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not alive. I was happy that at least the family,

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at a minimum, would have a body, because it's not

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guaranteed you're ever gonna find that body.

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And then I.

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Learned the family had gotten a lawyer, and this lawyer

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is a well known civil rights attorney by the name

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of Ben Crump, And that kind of confused me a lot,

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because Ben Crump, in my opinion, Jim Chapman's opinion, is

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a divider. He only shows up when opposite races of

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people are involved. And first, I don't like division among races.

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I don't see black and white, I don't see color,

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and I know there's people out there that would say

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all white people say I really don't, really don't. Maybe

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it's the fact that I played football my entire life.

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Maybe that's what it is. But I played with black

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people white people. I remember me any birthday parties with

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my black friends that I went to growing up, and

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let me tell you, they were a lot funner than

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some of my white friends' parties, to be honest with you.

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They know how to throw a birthday party. And I

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had a ton of friends and still have a ton

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of friends that are not white. And I don't look

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at him as my black friends. I look at them

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as my friends. So I can't stand when you try

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to divide things among race. And yes there are situations

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where race plays apart, but this early on, just because

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he was out there with some white people, because there

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were other black kids as well, doesn't mean it was

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a white black thing. Now second, Nowhere in this case,

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in my view, did race play apart. In my view,

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it was the total opposite of that. It seems to

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me that none of these kids, including Nolan, took race

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into account when choosing friends because he had a lot

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of white friends. So at this point everything gets twisted,

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in my view, so much so that these kids, his friends,

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they had to delete their social media.

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Do to death threats. People are threatening to kill.

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Them and there's no evidence they had anything to do

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with this. Everything suddenly became about race, and it doesn't

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surprise me. It's right when Ben Crump got involved. Now

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here's some things that Ben Crump had said during this investigation.

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I'm quoting him on the need for an independent investigation

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and refusing to accept a quick no foul play conclusion.

468
00:27:41.480 --> 00:27:41.960
Quote.

469
00:27:42.119 --> 00:27:46.680
It's a lived experience for many Black Americans that oftentime,

470
00:27:47.200 --> 00:27:51.440
when our children are killed in highly questionable situations, there

471
00:27:51.519 --> 00:27:54.599
is a notion that there was nothing wrong, no foul play,

472
00:27:55.000 --> 00:27:57.720
just sweeping under the rug. We refuse to let them

473
00:27:57.759 --> 00:28:01.039
sweeping under the rug. We refuse to let no one's

474
00:28:01.119 --> 00:28:03.680
death be in vain. We're gonna make sure we get

475
00:28:03.720 --> 00:28:06.519
to the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth,

476
00:28:06.559 --> 00:28:10.880
because Nolan Wells deserves it. Well, you know what, get

477
00:28:10.920 --> 00:28:13.559
to the truth. I think we're to the truth as

478
00:28:13.559 --> 00:28:16.640
it relates to these kids, as it relates to conflicting

479
00:28:16.680 --> 00:28:19.759
accounts about why Nolan stayed.

480
00:28:19.359 --> 00:28:22.480
Behind with this girl. Quote.

481
00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:25.359
They're not saying the same thing. One of them is

482
00:28:25.400 --> 00:28:28.200
telling the truth, one of them is not. We have

483
00:28:28.319 --> 00:28:29.599
to get to the bottom of this.

484
00:28:29.720 --> 00:28:29.880
Now.

485
00:28:29.880 --> 00:28:33.559
He's referring to the friend group, saying Nolan chose to

486
00:28:33.599 --> 00:28:39.480
stay behind. And the girl's version of this, which allegedly

487
00:28:39.880 --> 00:28:43.000
was that she said Nolan told her he was going

488
00:28:43.039 --> 00:28:46.000
back to the boot. So let's play the how to

489
00:28:46.160 --> 00:28:49.680
twist the truth game when you are an attorney. That

490
00:28:49.759 --> 00:28:54.079
girl who Nolan wanted to stay behind with her name

491
00:28:54.359 --> 00:28:58.680
was Katie, and her sister spoke with reporters and here's

492
00:28:58.720 --> 00:29:02.279
what she said. Quote according to Gracie, that's her sister.

493
00:29:02.559 --> 00:29:06.160
Katie thought, Wells would have boded back to the mainland

494
00:29:06.279 --> 00:29:10.559
with his friends, and I stressed the word thought, not

495
00:29:10.799 --> 00:29:15.440
new thought. Her sister then went on to say, quote,

496
00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:20.400
Katie had a conversation and assumed that Nolan was getting

497
00:29:20.440 --> 00:29:23.039
ready to get on the boat. He came out on

498
00:29:23.839 --> 00:29:27.559
you hear that word in the quote, assumed, And she

499
00:29:27.640 --> 00:29:32.319
went on to say, quote, Katie assumed the friends telling

500
00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:35.680
him to get on the boat would not have left him.

501
00:29:36.039 --> 00:29:40.240
There's that word again, assumed. Nowhere in that statement did

502
00:29:40.240 --> 00:29:44.119
you hear what Crump would like you to believe, which

503
00:29:44.160 --> 00:29:47.400
is that Katie saw him get on the boat. What

504
00:29:47.519 --> 00:29:50.480
he possibly said, and I'm talking about Nolan here, and

505
00:29:50.519 --> 00:29:53.920
of course nobody knows, but what he possibly said to

506
00:29:54.000 --> 00:29:56.680
her was I'm going to go see if my friends

507
00:29:56.799 --> 00:30:00.000
left yet, and they had already left and he didn't

508
00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:03.079
know that. Or maybe he said I'm going to get

509
00:30:03.119 --> 00:30:06.319
on the boat and didn't realize they had already left.

510
00:30:06.559 --> 00:30:09.119
Maybe he said that to her, but the fact is

511
00:30:09.319 --> 00:30:11.920
they had already left. Say some other things that Crump

512
00:30:11.960 --> 00:30:15.680
said on the phones being left behind, He said, quote,

513
00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:19.440
what teenager wouldn't take their phone? It's not adding up

514
00:30:19.480 --> 00:30:22.079
at all. Well, first of all, he did take his phone.

515
00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:23.960
We've already covered that. It was on the boat, in

516
00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:26.279
the console of the boat. And I've already explained to

517
00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:30.240
you why he didn't take his phone back when they left.

518
00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:34.880
Number one, nobody was thinking about a phone. Number two.

519
00:30:35.440 --> 00:30:38.640
This is Crump clearly telling you he's not someone who

520
00:30:38.720 --> 00:30:42.039
goes on boats much and jumps in the water talking

521
00:30:42.079 --> 00:30:44.039
about something he knows nothing about.

522
00:30:44.119 --> 00:30:45.920
This is so common, y'all.

523
00:30:46.119 --> 00:30:49.759
He also spoke about the gap between when the friends

524
00:30:50.000 --> 00:30:53.079
last saw Nolan at three o'clock, when they told him, Hey,

525
00:30:53.400 --> 00:30:56.279
we're having some problems with the boat possibly sinking. You

526
00:30:56.319 --> 00:30:58.519
need to get on the boat. And when the boat

527
00:30:58.599 --> 00:31:01.039
left at four point thirty pter that hour and a half,

528
00:31:01.119 --> 00:31:05.119
where was Nolan for that hour? He said, Well, he

529
00:31:05.240 --> 00:31:07.519
was with a girl named Katie for some time of

530
00:31:07.559 --> 00:31:10.920
that the estimated time she last saw him.

531
00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:11.640
We don't know.

532
00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:14.359
It hasn't come out, so I don't know. Did she

533
00:31:14.440 --> 00:31:16.759
last see him at four point thirty five and these

534
00:31:16.880 --> 00:31:19.519
kids were not even on the island. Did he leave

535
00:31:19.559 --> 00:31:22.400
her at three forty five? And somewhere between that time

536
00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:24.720
and the time he was trying to get back to

537
00:31:24.799 --> 00:31:29.000
his boat, something happened. We don't know as of this time.

538
00:31:29.640 --> 00:31:32.160
Good question, though I don't fault him for asking that.

539
00:31:32.480 --> 00:31:36.480
On the timing of the body being found July sixth

540
00:31:36.839 --> 00:31:40.119
rather than July fifth, he said, quote, his body should

541
00:31:40.119 --> 00:31:43.039
have been there on July fifth. Why would it not

542
00:31:43.279 --> 00:31:47.160
appear until July sixth? If he stayed behind on the island.

543
00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:50.079
There were boats, there, there were people. It's just not

544
00:31:50.279 --> 00:31:53.359
adding up. Now, here's the one that got the problem

545
00:31:53.400 --> 00:31:57.440
with the most There's so many possibilities on that, obviously,

546
00:31:57.920 --> 00:32:00.279
but the most likely is and here's the fact.

547
00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:02.519
When you drown, you.

548
00:32:02.599 --> 00:32:07.880
Sink because your lungs fill up with water. Now most times,

549
00:32:08.359 --> 00:32:12.839
most times it takes three to five days after for

550
00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:15.720
you to surface. In No One's case, it was just

551
00:32:15.759 --> 00:32:20.680
two days. So there's your answer being crumped again, casting

552
00:32:20.759 --> 00:32:25.319
some sort of bullshit without knowing what he's talking about.

553
00:32:25.720 --> 00:32:29.480
On the independent autopsy, and this was the private autopsy,

554
00:32:29.640 --> 00:32:34.279
Krump reported the private optopsy found the cause and manner

555
00:32:34.319 --> 00:32:38.839
of death undetermined pending investigation, and leted no fractures or

556
00:32:38.920 --> 00:32:43.640
deep tissue injuries, described a red discoloration and soft tissue

557
00:32:44.039 --> 00:32:46.559
at the back of the head as inconclusive, which y'all

558
00:32:46.559 --> 00:32:50.000
means it could have been caused by anything. And the

559
00:32:50.119 --> 00:32:55.440
report also listed multiple limitations, which we'll get into in

560
00:32:55.559 --> 00:32:59.440
just a second. But he was quoted after this as saying, quote,

561
00:32:59.640 --> 00:33:02.599
this is only another part of the puzzle, and even

562
00:33:02.640 --> 00:33:05.839
though it tells us significant information, we still have more

563
00:33:05.960 --> 00:33:09.519
questions than we have answers as of this time. So

564
00:33:09.880 --> 00:33:13.200
here's the side fact, y'all. You may forever have more

565
00:33:13.319 --> 00:33:17.519
questions than you have answers. That's just typically how these

566
00:33:17.640 --> 00:33:21.559
types of cases go when there's no foul play. And

567
00:33:21.640 --> 00:33:26.359
so now you have had two autopsies neither one showing

568
00:33:26.480 --> 00:33:31.079
any sort of foul play as playing a part inconclusive

569
00:33:31.519 --> 00:33:35.680
really means there's no obvious signs that there was foul play.

570
00:33:36.519 --> 00:33:39.680
Just means we can't conclude somebody killed this guy. We

571
00:33:39.759 --> 00:33:43.640
don't know exactly what happened. So I want to recount

572
00:33:43.640 --> 00:33:46.720
something quickly before we move on, and that is the

573
00:33:46.799 --> 00:33:51.359
truth and the lies in this case. It's important nobody

574
00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:55.759
has been listening to the facts here. They're running off

575
00:33:55.799 --> 00:33:59.039
of these headlines from these people that have no idea

576
00:33:59.039 --> 00:34:00.920
what they're talking about on TikTok.

577
00:34:01.720 --> 00:34:01.839
So.

578
00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:04.720
The lie is Nolan was the only black kid on

579
00:34:04.759 --> 00:34:07.640
Horner Island, and we've already covered that not only were

580
00:34:07.680 --> 00:34:10.960
there hundreds of black kids on Horn Island on that

581
00:34:11.079 --> 00:34:13.679
July fourth, Nolan wasn't even the only black kid in

582
00:34:13.719 --> 00:34:17.840
the friend group. Another lie nolan friends did not tell

583
00:34:17.880 --> 00:34:21.400
anyone he was missing. The truth was Nolan's friends actually

584
00:34:21.440 --> 00:34:25.079
are the ones who reported Nolan missing to the Coastguard

585
00:34:25.440 --> 00:34:28.559
and the ones who called his own mother to tell her.

586
00:34:29.719 --> 00:34:32.880
Another lie that Nolan's friends went into hiding after his

587
00:34:33.000 --> 00:34:37.480
disappearance and deleted all their social media. Yep, they deleted

588
00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:40.360
all their social media. As we covered because it got

589
00:34:40.480 --> 00:34:43.679
death threats from everybody and they didn't want to see it,

590
00:34:44.199 --> 00:34:46.880
and they didn't go into hiding after his disappearance. As

591
00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:49.159
a matter of fact, the next day they actually went

592
00:34:49.199 --> 00:34:52.480
to Horne Island to look for Nolan themselves. In side

593
00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:56.800
note here, the parents of these the main people focused

594
00:34:56.840 --> 00:35:00.880
on in these friend groups. The parents reached out to

595
00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:04.119
the mother of Nolan, reach out to us, We'd love

596
00:35:04.199 --> 00:35:06.599
to talk to you whenever you feel like you're ready

597
00:35:06.639 --> 00:35:07.199
to talk.

598
00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:09.239
And when Nolan's.

599
00:35:08.840 --> 00:35:11.360
Mother was asked about this, initially she said, no, one's

600
00:35:11.400 --> 00:35:13.679
tried to contact me. And then the next day she

601
00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:17.239
came out and she said, oh my bad. Basically I'm

602
00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:21.360
paraphrasing here, but some three or four of these mothers

603
00:35:21.360 --> 00:35:24.559
did reach out and shout out for her for doing that.

604
00:35:24.599 --> 00:35:27.440
And I don't fault her for making the mistake. You've

605
00:35:27.440 --> 00:35:29.119
got a lot on your mind, and the last thing

606
00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:32.159
is people trying to contact you, so I don't fault

607
00:35:32.199 --> 00:35:34.920
her for that. But they did, three or four of them,

608
00:35:35.119 --> 00:35:38.159
and she reported that did try to contact her. So

609
00:35:38.280 --> 00:35:42.440
nobody's hiding the lie Nolan was isolated during the disappearance

610
00:35:42.480 --> 00:35:45.360
with three or four white kids. The truth he was

611
00:35:45.400 --> 00:35:50.159
among thirty people, three separate boats, black kids, white kids,

612
00:35:50.440 --> 00:35:53.960
mixed race, all among these friends. It wasn't just one

613
00:35:54.000 --> 00:35:55.239
black guy with three people.

614
00:35:55.320 --> 00:35:55.480
Now.

615
00:35:55.519 --> 00:35:59.760
One other point of contention here was during the end

616
00:35:59.800 --> 00:36:05.719
of Pennant second autopsy of Nolan Wells, the forensic pathologists

617
00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:12.840
did not receive the internal anterior neck structures, including the throat, larynix, trichea,

618
00:36:12.960 --> 00:36:18.440
hyoid bone, and thyroid cartilage. And many people have suggested

619
00:36:18.599 --> 00:36:22.719
this right here, this is proof of a cover up,

620
00:36:23.719 --> 00:36:27.480
and so I'm here to tell you that no, it ain't.

621
00:36:28.239 --> 00:36:29.960
But full disclosure.

622
00:36:29.360 --> 00:36:32.559
Here, I'm not a pathologist, so I'm going to defer

623
00:36:33.159 --> 00:36:37.360
to the expert here who does a great job of

624
00:36:37.440 --> 00:36:38.119
explaining it.

625
00:36:38.199 --> 00:36:41.480
I'm doctor JD. Melinik. I'm a board certified forensic pathologist,

626
00:36:42.000 --> 00:36:46.199
and I just watched the Nolan Wells press conference and

627
00:36:46.239 --> 00:36:50.000
I wanted to share some context for everyone. Being able

628
00:36:50.039 --> 00:36:54.360
to definitively state the cause of death after a body

629
00:36:54.519 --> 00:36:57.159
has not been found for several days and has been

630
00:36:57.320 --> 00:37:04.559
subsequently autopsy twice with signs of decomposition is incredibly, incredibly unlikely.

631
00:37:05.519 --> 00:37:09.159
Drowning is what's called a diagnosis of exclusion, which means

632
00:37:09.199 --> 00:37:12.280
that when you've got a fresh body, you want to

633
00:37:12.320 --> 00:37:14.880
be able to look the body and see if there's

634
00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:18.239
any other causes of death for that body that is

635
00:37:18.280 --> 00:37:23.800
found in water that exclude the death being exclusively a drowning. So,

636
00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:26.480
for example, if someone is shot and then thrown in

637
00:37:26.519 --> 00:37:29.159
the water, you'll have that gunshot and they'll be bleeding,

638
00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:31.400
and the gunshot will be the cause of death, and

639
00:37:31.519 --> 00:37:34.280
the throne in the water is not the cause of death.

640
00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:37.480
It's not even on the death certificate. If a person

641
00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:42.360
is strangled and they die from strangulation and then their

642
00:37:42.400 --> 00:37:44.559
dead body is thrown in the water, their body will

643
00:37:44.599 --> 00:37:46.400
take on water, but the cause of death is going

644
00:37:46.480 --> 00:37:51.440
to be strangulation, not drowning. Also for any kind of

645
00:37:51.639 --> 00:37:54.480
traumatic injuries. Now we've got to talk about natural death

646
00:37:54.519 --> 00:37:58.480
for a second. If someone has a heart attack while

647
00:37:58.519 --> 00:38:01.880
they are swimming, and because they're having the heart attack

648
00:38:01.960 --> 00:38:04.679
as they are exercising in the water and they take

649
00:38:04.719 --> 00:38:07.480
on water and they drown, the cause of death is

650
00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:10.480
actually drowning, and the heart attack is listed on the

651
00:38:10.519 --> 00:38:14.880
death certificate under other significant conditions contributing to death. So

652
00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:17.480
even though the heart attack might have killed them on

653
00:38:17.599 --> 00:38:20.280
dry land, it might not have most certainly they wouldn't

654
00:38:20.280 --> 00:38:23.159
have drowned on dry land, so we defer to the

655
00:38:23.159 --> 00:38:26.760
hostile environment, which is the water, to call it a drowning. Now,

656
00:38:26.800 --> 00:38:30.960
identifying natural disease and identifying trauma is relatively easy in

657
00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:34.039
a fresh body. It can be very difficult in a

658
00:38:34.079 --> 00:38:38.639
decomposed body. His body was found two days after he disappeared,

659
00:38:38.800 --> 00:38:43.159
and this second autopsy, done by doctor Roger Mitchell, wasn't

660
00:38:43.239 --> 00:38:45.480
until four days later, so we're dealing with quite a

661
00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:48.440
bit of decomposition, even if the body was refrigerated during

662
00:38:48.440 --> 00:38:50.639
that time. And then we have this other issue of

663
00:38:50.679 --> 00:38:54.079
the fact that not all the results are back. The

664
00:38:54.119 --> 00:38:56.920
toxicology would have been done on the fluids from the

665
00:38:56.960 --> 00:39:00.480
body from the first autopsy. From the second autop you're

666
00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:03.119
going to have a lot higher alcohol levels from the

667
00:39:03.159 --> 00:39:08.000
decomposition caused by bacteria, not caused by drinking. So again

668
00:39:08.159 --> 00:39:10.400
it's the fluid and blood from the first autopsy that

669
00:39:10.440 --> 00:39:13.559
really matter and the other thing you have to consider.

670
00:39:15.320 --> 00:39:17.960
And there's one other important piece of information from that

671
00:39:18.000 --> 00:39:20.519
press conference, which is that the neck block, the portion

672
00:39:20.639 --> 00:39:24.079
of the neck from the front end, was missing, so

673
00:39:24.159 --> 00:39:26.559
doctor Mitchell did not have a chance to examine that

674
00:39:26.679 --> 00:39:30.519
part of Nolan Wells's anatomy. Why is that important Because

675
00:39:30.639 --> 00:39:35.000
if somebody is strangled, especially manual strangulation, the injuries are

676
00:39:35.000 --> 00:39:36.960
going to be to the front of the neck. There

677
00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:38.960
may be some redness at the back of the neck

678
00:39:39.000 --> 00:39:42.800
as well if injury comes from behind, but generally this

679
00:39:42.920 --> 00:39:46.119
part of the neck doesn't have the major blood vessels

680
00:39:46.599 --> 00:39:49.000
and the airway. It's the front of the neck that does.

681
00:39:49.280 --> 00:39:51.679
So compression or damage to the front of the airway

682
00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:53.880
that's going to be found to the neck block that

683
00:39:54.039 --> 00:39:56.360
is still sitting at the medical examiner's office that was

684
00:39:56.360 --> 00:39:59.559
not released with the body. So you may ask, is

685
00:39:59.599 --> 00:40:02.519
this come practice for pathologists to keep a portion of

686
00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:05.519
the anatomy with them at the medical examiner's office and

687
00:40:05.559 --> 00:40:09.039
not release it to the family, And the answer is yes.

688
00:40:09.239 --> 00:40:14.480
We will sometimes retain important specimens that have pathology in

689
00:40:14.599 --> 00:40:18.719
a jar under formaldehyde at the medical examiner's office for

690
00:40:18.920 --> 00:40:24.079
further examination or as evidence. And the absence of that

691
00:40:24.159 --> 00:40:27.239
net block is really important because we still don't have

692
00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:30.039
information from the first autopsy that has not been released yet,

693
00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:31.840
so we don't know if it was kept out of

694
00:40:31.840 --> 00:40:34.480
an abundance of caution, meaning that it didn't have any

695
00:40:34.519 --> 00:40:38.400
findings and it was negative, or it was kept because

696
00:40:38.519 --> 00:40:41.519
it has findings because there's a broken hyoid bone, or

697
00:40:41.559 --> 00:40:44.480
because there's hemorrhage in the strat muscles. Until we get

698
00:40:44.519 --> 00:40:48.519
that first autopsy report, we don't know why it's been retained,

699
00:40:49.440 --> 00:40:52.360
So why should anybody do a second autopsy? A second

700
00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:55.760
autopsy is often done in cases where there is a

701
00:40:55.840 --> 00:40:59.039
high profile case such as this, or there is concerned

702
00:40:59.039 --> 00:41:01.400
with the family for foul play and they're just not

703
00:41:01.440 --> 00:41:04.239
getting answers from the Medical Examiner's office because the Medical

704
00:41:04.280 --> 00:41:08.000
Examiner's office is still doing their investigation and is keeping

705
00:41:08.079 --> 00:41:12.480
things under wraps because if there is foul play, they

706
00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:15.159
have the evidence, They have the physical evidence that might

707
00:41:15.199 --> 00:41:16.760
be able to trap the killer, and they don't want

708
00:41:16.800 --> 00:41:19.880
to release that to the public. Even if there is

709
00:41:19.920 --> 00:41:24.119
no evidence of foul play. Just the lack of evidence

710
00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:29.280
is evidence and is important information that might affect how

711
00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:31.800
people are interrogated, whether they're going to tell the truth

712
00:41:31.880 --> 00:41:34.320
or not the truth about what happened to him. You

713
00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:37.920
have to understand that the medical examiner's autopsy is legally

714
00:41:38.000 --> 00:41:43.480
mandated and it is ultimately the most independent autopsy because

715
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it's not beholden to the family, it's not behold into

716
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the prosecutor, to the police, to anybody else. It's an

717
00:41:48.960 --> 00:41:52.400
independent agency. So that is an independent autopsy, but it

718
00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:55.159
takes time, and it takes time until we get all

719
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the information back, including the toxicology report. And to answer

720
00:41:59.119 --> 00:42:02.639
the question, if somebody's intoxicated and they drown as a

721
00:42:02.639 --> 00:42:06.960
result of their intoxication, meaning that they're just too intoxicated

722
00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:09.519
to be able to swim adequately, the cause of death

723
00:42:09.519 --> 00:42:12.159
would still be a drowning, but the intoxication would be

724
00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:16.239
considered a significant contributing condition. But because of what I

725
00:42:16.239 --> 00:42:20.119
said about alcohol forming from bacteria after death, if the

726
00:42:20.159 --> 00:42:23.480
body is decomposed, you have to subtract some of that

727
00:42:23.559 --> 00:42:27.039
alcohol because it may have been caused by bacteria and

728
00:42:27.119 --> 00:42:29.840
may not have been a sign of intoxication. And you

729
00:42:29.880 --> 00:42:34.079
can have up to a point two oh grand percent,

730
00:42:34.840 --> 00:42:37.880
So point oh eight is above the legal limit in

731
00:42:37.880 --> 00:42:39.599
most states for driving, but you can get up to

732
00:42:39.599 --> 00:42:43.199
a point two oh in a massively decomposed body. So

733
00:42:43.280 --> 00:42:46.960
it really throws you off when you have decomposition and alcohol.

734
00:42:47.400 --> 00:42:49.800
To try to figure out whether there was alcohol on

735
00:42:49.840 --> 00:42:53.639
board or whether all of it's just been made by bacteria.

736
00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:57.440
So I hope this answers some questions about what I

737
00:42:57.480 --> 00:42:59.719
saw in the press conference, what other people saw as well.

738
00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:03.880
I will go through the autopsy or at least the

739
00:43:03.920 --> 00:43:07.559
report that's been released with a fine tooth comb, but

740
00:43:07.639 --> 00:43:09.800
this is just my first impressions based on watching the

741
00:43:09.840 --> 00:43:13.079
press report. As always, if you have any questions, put

742
00:43:13.079 --> 00:43:15.039
them in the comments. I'll see if I can answer them.

743
00:43:15.159 --> 00:43:18.159
And we really need to wait for the medical examiner's

744
00:43:18.679 --> 00:43:21.599
report to find out what really was found at the

745
00:43:21.639 --> 00:43:23.639
autopsy when the body was fresh. I think that's going

746
00:43:23.719 --> 00:43:24.920
to clarify a lot of things.

747
00:43:25.079 --> 00:43:27.960
So there you have it to all of you spewing

748
00:43:28.280 --> 00:43:34.159
the bullshit online. This is common practice everywhere, whether it's

749
00:43:34.280 --> 00:43:40.639
Nolan Wells or Elvis Presley, Tell the truth. Quit contributing

750
00:43:41.079 --> 00:43:46.199
to this racism narrative that does not exist here. These

751
00:43:46.239 --> 00:43:49.760
were good kids, all of them, the black kids, the

752
00:43:49.760 --> 00:43:54.840
white kids, and this is an absolute tragedy. I feel

753
00:43:54.920 --> 00:44:02.000
horrible that Nolan Wells died tried, and I feel horrible

754
00:44:02.039 --> 00:44:05.800
for his family, and nobody is helping by saying this

755
00:44:05.960 --> 00:44:08.199
was a black white thing. These were good kids who

756
00:44:08.239 --> 00:44:11.679
didn't see color all of them, including Nolan Wells. So

757
00:44:11.760 --> 00:44:16.159
where does this case stand right now as of this recording? Well,

758
00:44:16.599 --> 00:44:20.079
the FBI has been assisting with the examination of the

759
00:44:20.239 --> 00:44:24.880
digital evidence, including that cell phone that they claim things

760
00:44:24.920 --> 00:44:28.559
were intentionally deleted off of some people. They're going to

761
00:44:28.599 --> 00:44:32.840
find out just my gut opinion here or my gut thought.

762
00:44:33.280 --> 00:44:36.559
They're going to find out nothing nefarious there, But we'll

763
00:44:36.599 --> 00:44:41.119
wait on that. Over sixty witnesses have reportedly been interviewed.

764
00:44:41.559 --> 00:44:45.679
The family continues to press for a transparent investigation, and

765
00:44:45.719 --> 00:44:48.239
I love that, and I get that, and I would

766
00:44:48.280 --> 00:44:51.920
also press for that. A reward, which was initially one

767
00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:56.440
hundred thousand dollars plus, has been increased for information and

768
00:44:56.519 --> 00:44:59.800
it remains in place, and if someone is arrested or

769
00:45:00.159 --> 00:45:05.119
viction of foul play is determined, then that award is

770
00:45:05.119 --> 00:45:07.800
gonna get paid out. And look, as far as Nolan

771
00:45:07.840 --> 00:45:12.159
Well's family, I totally get it. His mother seems like

772
00:45:12.239 --> 00:45:17.480
a very put together, awesome lady, and she wants answers,

773
00:45:17.599 --> 00:45:21.519
and I'm with her. I want answers for her, and

774
00:45:21.559 --> 00:45:26.719
I pray that she gets those answers. I personally don't

775
00:45:26.760 --> 00:45:31.440
see any evidence and if everyone is being honest neither

776
00:45:31.840 --> 00:45:33.719
does anyone else that.

777
00:45:33.840 --> 00:45:36.800
Race played any part in.

778
00:45:36.800 --> 00:45:40.119
The death of this young man. Just don't see it.

779
00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:45.079
But something happened to him. Could he have been killed, absolutely,

780
00:45:45.559 --> 00:45:48.440
but it wasn't that friend group that did it. And

781
00:45:48.559 --> 00:45:51.880
all the evidence right now is not showing that in

782
00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:55.280
my opinion, and of course I have no direct knowledge.

783
00:45:55.599 --> 00:45:58.320
This is just knowing where they were at and knowing

784
00:45:58.360 --> 00:46:02.719
the circumstances of that. My opinion, I think it's extremely

785
00:46:03.199 --> 00:46:06.599
possible that this kid got caught in a rip current.

786
00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:09.840
And when you get caught in rip currents and you

787
00:46:09.960 --> 00:46:12.079
maybe have been drinking a little bit, but even if

788
00:46:12.079 --> 00:46:16.079
you hadn't, if you get swept out, you start panicking

789
00:46:17.079 --> 00:46:20.360
and at some point you just get tired and you drown.

790
00:46:21.199 --> 00:46:23.840
Everything that I'm seeing points to that. But I hope

791
00:46:23.880 --> 00:46:27.239
this and pray that this family gets answers. And if

792
00:46:27.239 --> 00:46:31.079
you have something that you know about this case, report it,

793
00:46:31.960 --> 00:46:35.000
Google it online. You can get all the information. I'm

794
00:46:35.039 --> 00:46:37.199
sure they've got tons of tip lines out there.

795
00:46:37.719 --> 00:46:39.360
Report it and there you have it.

796
00:46:39.440 --> 00:46:43.599
Any updates, I'll keep you posted quickly. The Living in

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00:46:43.760 --> 00:46:47.079
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