June 1, 2025

S2E9 "Ain't Nobody Got Time For That" -Special Guest Tanya Tate

S2E9 "Ain't Nobody Got Time For That" -Special Guest Tanya Tate

Don & Gary Doin’ 60 – with Special Guest: Tanya Tate Hold onto your wine glasses folks — this episode is a wild ride! The fabulous Tanya Tate joins the party, and she’s bringing wisdom, wit, and a karaoke playlist that could raise the dead. In our...

Don & Gary Doin’ 60 – with Special Guest: Tanya Tate
Hold onto your wine glasses folks — this episode is a wild ride! The fabulous Tanya Tate joins the party, and she’s bringing wisdom, wit, and a karaoke playlist that could raise the dead.
In our favorite segment “Ain’t Nobody Got Time For That,” Tanya dishes on ditching drama, embracing gratitude, and how raising kids while turning 60 should qualify as an Olympic sport. She’s building her tribe, dodging nonsense, and serving up life advice with a side of sass.
Oh, and her go-to karaoke songs? Let’s just say if you're not belting them out by the end, you’re doing it wrong.
Laughs? Check. Inspiration? Double check. An honest discussion about life, love, and letting go of crap you don’t need? You better believe it.
Tune in, laugh hard, and find out why nobody's got time for nonsense — especially at 60.


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Well, your hair looks fabulous and your hair looks amazing.

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Well, thank you, Okay, that's enough, Thanks you for joining

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Don Garry doing sixty.

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Bye, we're done. Oh wow, that's all we need to do.

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You know.

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The episode went by like that.

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I know, and apparently my text for you to join

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only didn't work. So it's okay, it's all right.

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The thing is, the phone is right there, and I've

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been here for okay, close to an hour.

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Where's this, where's this? Where's this? Brain? Where's that at?

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Are you pointing to the wrinkles on your forehead or what?

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Absolutely well, yeah, I'm just saying good morning.

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Good morning, pleasantries again, Happy Sunday to you Sunday. I'm

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excited for our next X our segment. Ain't nobody got

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time for that?

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Well? They all they all turn out really well.

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I know, I know, but I just want to say,

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jump right into it.

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This week, we're talking to our good friend Tanya Tate,

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who we basically have a lot of interesting intersections.

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She brought to my.

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Attention one more that she's going to bring up today

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in our lives and you, of course, we went to

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school with her for.

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A while, Yes, high school and after I didn't get

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a chance to pull out the yearbooks from middle school.

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But I don't know if she if we share that too,

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so that'll be one of my questions.

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I have a feeling she's going to tell us because

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she pointed out something to me about when we first met.

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In school, so it was actually a bunch earlier than

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I had remembered.

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So oh, okay, yeah, so we'll be right back. We're

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gonna take a short break.

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Okay, but don't remember to come back.

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Okay, can you text me?

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Sorry to hit the wrong button everything?

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When Blake, I thought I was having another episode.

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No, speaking of episodes, yes, I must say, Welcome to Gonrhea,

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Welcome to Don.

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It's not the first time you said that, I'm sure,

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but I digress.

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Welcome at Don and Gary doing sixty.

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We're here to unwrap and unpack navigating the world at.

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Well you know this age, yes, well, yeah.

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You can find us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Instagram at

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Donna Gary doing sixty. We're on YouTube at p five

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for pod Don and Gary Doing sixty. And now we

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are on blue Sky at Don and Gary doing sixty,

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bsky Dot Social.

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So that's exciting. We haven't really there yet, but we're coming.

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And Gary, where can you reach us on email if

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we have questions?

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That would be Don and Gary doing sixty at gmail

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dot com. Yes, yes, and we welcome all emails, We

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welcome suggestions, we welcome comments, likes, all of that.

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Yes, it's all good. So what else?

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What's going on in your world?

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We drove down on Friday to go Our friend Christopher

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celebrated his seven hundred and fiftieth birthday on Friday, so

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we actually met up with him and Steve and his

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mom and we went to go see Dione Warwick.

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she's showing her age a little bit.

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these amazing songs that are she sang with Bert Bacherac.

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still doing her things. She looked good and she she

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threw the sass.

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is a this is coming up called Queen's and it's

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four Ladies. It's like four legends, So I think one

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of them is a Gladys Knight, I believe. Okay, I

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think Patti LaBelle and two others, but that could be

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good too, because it's you know, when you're going to

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see these legends and they don't have to carry the

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whole show right and together again on the same stage.

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I want to jump real quick to somebody before our

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guest joins us. As we were talking, you and I

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were talking offline about upcoming episodes and maybe doing like

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some you know, some lighter fair of like top ten stuff.

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So this article came up this week. I've read and

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it is. This is something they started several years ago.

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It is the top ten happiest countries to live in.

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Yahoo Life and a list of top ten. Sadly, we

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are not in the top ten, and so for the

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eighth year in a row, Finland is number one, Denmark, Iceland, Sweden,

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Norwegian countries, Netherlands not surprising yep, Norway, Luxembourg. Two of

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them that are on the top ten for the first

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time are Costa Rica and Mexico.

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Mexico really yeah, which I.

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round app this is number eight on the list is Israel.

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So the determine each country's annual happiness ranking, researchers use

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an average of three years worth of data, So the

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twenty twenty five report is from data collected from twenty

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twenty two to twenty twenty four. The most unhappiest country

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live Afghanistan. Yeah, it says that's for the six year

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in a row.

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It is the lowest.

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But this says the happenest rankings are based on several

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things GDP gross domestic product per capita, healthy life expectancy,

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social support or having someone to count on, freedom, says

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to take to make key life decisions, generosity, and perceptions

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of corruption in government and business. The US has fallen

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to number twenty four.

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I'm surprised for that.

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The highest we ever had.

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We peaked.

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We peaked at number eleven, and that was in twenty twelve,

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which is the first year that they started running this report.

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So back in twenty twelve, first year of the report,

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that was the best we could do was eleven, and

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it kept going down.

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Downtown and this was.

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You know, one of the things they commented on was

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Americans are spending more time eating alone, which is linked

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to less happiness.

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Hello, I.

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Spent a lot of time alone eating. They say countries

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where people share more meals tend to have higher levels

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of social support and lower levels of loneliness. Okay, so

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if you e alone, you're going to be sad and

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you're not going to mean the.

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Top I questioned the validity of that report because also

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a lot of those countries that you mentioned in the

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top ten are dark countries most of the many months

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of the year. Right in Norway, Finland, it's very dark,

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so there actually is a bit of depression to deal with.

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So that's why they celebrate light.

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So much and the midsummer and all those great things

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that keep them blind. But I can see why those

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places are ranked high because of they're beautiful places. They

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have so many good support systems in place with their government,

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their health, all these critical things. But you know what,

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we've all eaten by ourselves. So I'm not going to

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take all of that report seriously.

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I'm going to paraphrase it basically said that the you know,

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everyone basically looks the same probably makes around the same income,

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so they all have the same they all grew up there,

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all the same beliefs. Whereas in a country like the US,

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which is like a melting pot of everyone, there's going

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to be a lot more diversity, a lot more opinions.

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So that's going to create more disruption and antagonism as

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we all are experiencing right now.

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Yes, we can only go up from here. Yes.

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Yeah. The other part is said in household size of

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four or five people is a sweet spot for happiness.

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So I don't know if they count dogs, but you

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would fall in the sweet spot then because there's four.

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In your household, four and we're not planning on adding

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another child, So.

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Four is it?

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So your dog bearing years are over? Well, apparently their

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husband's not putting out.

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But way to take it from PG to R.

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So it says people in single person households that's me,

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and in households with six to seven people reporting the

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lowest happiness levels. So if I eat alone or live alone,

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I'm a mess.

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Well, I don't count that report as a gauge for

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your happiness. So I'm sure you're a quite happy person

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and you have done dined alone and so have I.

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So it's not like and I've lived alone before too,

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so I don't buy that.

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And I've traveled alone. I've traveled internationally a lot.

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Yes, yes, And it's like I.

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Mean, yes, would I like to have someone there to like,

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you know, hang out with and enjoy things. Yes, but

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there's a lot of times it's like no one's available

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or whatever.

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Like you know, I want to go, so get there.

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Well, I travel through Europe several times by myself, and

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it's like and here in the States.

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And you're going to do it again, and you're gonna

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have dinner. So yeah, well we'll take that with a

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grain of salt.

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Although it is interesting to see that different that mostly

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Norwegian countries are hitting the top ten.

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It kind of makes sense, though, I get it and

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just sort of twiddle our thumbs until Tanya joins us.

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I guess, I don't know, do I remember how to

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twiddle my thumbs?

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It's like this.

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Or this, Hello, there she is and fifteen on the dot.

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Yes, Why was I thinking she was late? I was

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thinking you were late?

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No, No, you said ten to fifteen.

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Right, And what Don says goes yeah, Yeah, apparently telling

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time is not my strong point.

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So I wasn't paying at time for I'm sorry.

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I was ready at ten just so you know.

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And you look beautiful. Thank you for joining us, Tanya.

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Thank you. I was like, I'm looking forward to being

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out with you guys.

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Yes, I'm so happy you did this, and you know

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this is we're grateful that you joined us. And just

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to give a preface for this, this segment we call

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at Nobody Got time for. That is basically how we're

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reconnecting with people and having people share their stories about

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what's going on in their lives at this point in

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our lives.

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The Big Six.

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Oh, that's right, we're doing sixty. So thank you for

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joining us.

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And you pointed out, just to jump in, you pointed.

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Out something to be last when we spoke yesterday that

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I didn't remember was that we actually met in first grade.

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Okay, question, I don't remember two weeks ago. How do

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you remember that, missus?

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Right?

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It's right, Oh my gosh, wow, Because I moved to

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San Mateo when I was in first grade, and I

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mean I have a really good memory obviously, and and.

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I still live here. I mean I still have lots

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of friends, so that I know from first grade Brockhet Jesse,

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Jesse's dad, my son's dad. I knew the first grade.

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He was old.

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He was a year older than us.

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Wow do you have do you have the little the

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little pictures of all the kids in the school, like

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there's always a picture like with little squares of all

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the kids.

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Yes, I have it. I don't know where it is.

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It's in storage somewhere, but you know I do have it.

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I saw my yearbook somewhere in this house now, but

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you know it's yeah, yeah, I do.

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The classroom photos from elementary school. I went to different

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elementary school with the Sunny Bray. What middle school?

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Did you go to Bayside? Okay?

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For two years? And then I went to Burrell.

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Okay, Okay, okay, I went to Bayside and Gary went

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to Burrell.

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R Right, Okay, so yeah, before you join us, I

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was asking don I couldn't remember. I knew obviously high school,

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but I wasn't sure about middle school. So one year

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or two years of Burrell?

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One year I went to eighth grade?

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Okay, so maybe I met you then?

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Yeah that's when that's you, right?

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And then when's the last time you two saw each other?

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Well, we've we've following each other on Facebook all the

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time because we have very mutual interests and things that

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we do.

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Yes, drinking, but.

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An appreciation of wine. But I just wanted to really

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point out very quickly Tanya and I have a few

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points of intersection in our lives, which is interesting. First

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grade was the I didn't remember about that one. But

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I also had the great, great pleasure and honor of

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working for Tanya's mom at the Volkswagen dealership. Talk about

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that in a little while too. And then I think,

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unbeknownst to us, when I was actually working with my

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parents' estate, met Tanya again at the lawyer that she

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worked for at the time, Henry Evie's office, and we

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had these it's like, wait, we know each.

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Other, how is this happening?

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So we've had these strange little intersections crossing each other's

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lives from time to time over a long time.

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Now Yeah, yeah, I mean there's like this, there's there's

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a connection. Absolutely.

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I want to go back to those three different points.

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They were really interesting points in my life just personally.

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There were a lot going on, and I just wanted

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to jump very quickly and then we'll get to some

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of our questions, But I just wanted to point out

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that I think and I really I almost get emotional

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talking about it because without her knowing, working with your

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mom was one of the first times that an adult

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treated me like an adult. And she was very honest,

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very straightforward, very forthcoming. How she had a definite opinion

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about everything. And I think I remember even you walking

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in a couple times just to say hi to your

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mom or something.

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We would say hi.

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But I have to say she bet you was one

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of the first adults that treated me with kindness, honesty.

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And she had a huge effect on me.

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And I get a little teary talking about it because

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I have a very clear memory of her, and I

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don't remember obviously, I don't remember meeting in first grade,

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but I do remember very vividly working with your mom,

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and she was amazing. Yes, she was an amazing lady.

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And I'm sure you miss her too. I know you

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mentioned her from time to time, and then you'd also

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mentioned the artwork behind you. Yeah, can you tell us

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a great story about that one.

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Yeah?

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If I'm sorry, the light is lights hit not hitting

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it right.

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It really won't.

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But you want me to tell you about this about

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this painting. So she was at an art wine festival

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in Fremont and she calls me on the phone and says, Tanya,

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I just I just bought you your inheritance and this

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is this beautiful It's an original watercolor by Patricia who

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was quite famous, you know, in her own time, and

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she had beautiful art. And it was actually this actual

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painting went to the Supreme Court because Tarque sued her

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for plagiarism and he won, which I mean, it just

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blows me away because art is art, I think, but

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you know he did. Have you compared it? So and

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I have some I have some Tarque's as well, but

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they're lithographs. But this one, you know, it's like my

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mom fell in love with this is this is her light.

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You know. This late is called Ladies at Lunch and

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you know, and it's just beautiful women. Her friend, you know,

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her beautiful friend. She said, oh, this is this and

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this is this, and that's what they would do. They

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hang out in the garden and they drink and you know,

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and enjoy their lunches together. And that's you know, that's

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what they did. And so I can never be reproduced,

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can never be sold and she bought. She thinks she

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spent like five thousand dollars on it. My mom, Why

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he's paying five thousand dollars for a watercolor that I

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can that you can never sell? But yeah, no, it's

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it's it's one of my favorites, has been ever since

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she passed. I took it with me and it's gone

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everywhere I go. It's just been a it's one of

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my favorite piece of art and actually kinds of go

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I was good with My got these dark walls and

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the blue couch and it's just getting All my girlfriends

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come in remember it and they're like, oh, I love them.

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I love that because you know my mom, My mom

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was incredible and she you know, all of my friends

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that they were that was their mom too, you know,

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because she was She was that person that you could

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talk to. She would listen, she would tell you the

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truth too. She never you know, she did not hold back.

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And I was blessed to have her as a mom.

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I mean, yes, she treated me like an adult since

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I was about seven, and you know I had I

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grew up pretty fast like that. But it was you know,

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it was nice. I had no I mean, I had

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very little rules, and you know, she said, I trust you,

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my God, that's a lot of responsibility for a teenager.

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Sure, but I guess you know, that's one of the

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things that resonate with me too, because of the way

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she treated me was very just the way she treated

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you or maybe a lot of your friends was like,

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you know, she was very honest, very forthcoming.

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She made you feel like you were an equal there.

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You weren't an adult in the child.

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So again, I just wanted to I wanted to share

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that story because it was so it was so touching,

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and it does I remember it vividly and for the

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time that I worked with her, and just so you know,

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I washed rental cars at the Volkswagen dealership.

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Yeah, my job, so someone had to do it.

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So yeah, thank you for sharing that. I appreciate that.

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Just I wanted to pay homage to your mother because

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she was such an influence on so many of us.

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Yes, May and she was, for sure, and I've tried

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to be that mom too. I mean, I have a son.

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He's forty, which blows my mind because I have a

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forty year old son, and you know, I tell you know,

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when I tell people that they're just like blown away.

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I can't believe I have a forty year old son,

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and but I do. And I tried, you know, I

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had to raise you try to raise him with the

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information I got from my mom and you know, and

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then my own I called him my science experiment, so

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that I could raise him the way I wanted to

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raise him and see how he turned out. Oh and

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I won. He's fabulous. I mean it is one of

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the most incredible human beings you'll ever meet in your life.

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Ask anybody who knows him, and it's like, wow, he

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did a great job. He's just great kid, really good,

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really good human being. God, I love him. But I

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also was that mom where all the kids are at

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my house. I knew, like I figured, if I knew

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where they were, they were safe. And you know, I

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took that. I throw a couple of them up against

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the wall when they were pissing me off. It's like listen,

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and you know, they respected me. And to this day

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I still have I still know these kids. I am

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Jesse's mom. That is my you know, it's like, oh,

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you know, I know you you're Jesse's mom. That was

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just you know, that's probably the best honors in my

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life is to be Jesse's mom and still have all

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these kids. You know, I see him out at the

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at the bars and you know, in the clubs, and

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you know, at the grocery stores, like, oh, you're Jesse's mom.

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I get the hugs. I go to their weddings, their

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baby showers, their parents' funerals, you know, because now that

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we're in our sixties, we used probably used to go

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to more funerals than anything else, unfortunately. And yeah, so

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it's goodiness, pretty cool. I like, I do like that part.

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And I think, you know, as you said, that's and

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a tribute to the how your mom raised you and

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what you brought to it for yourself as a mother,

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which is great, exactly.

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Congratulations on thank you.

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So we did send you a list about three hundred

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and seventy three questions.

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Yeah I got thanks to seventy of them.

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Yeah, let's get cracking, and we hope you memorize this

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because we have three hundred and seventy two to go

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after this.

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Okay, all right, I'm just kidding.

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I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.

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I know, so we just saw I'm randomly at you too,

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but I guess one of the biggest things. And Gary,

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you can jump into after this. But I guess one

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of the things I've been asking you about because I've

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been following you a lot, obviously with all the posting

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that you do, but have you started to think about

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retirement at all yet?

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And if you did, what does it look like? Or

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maybe you don't have that in future.

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I have no plan of retiring, Okay. I like to work.

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I mean, I don't have a retirement plan. My son

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is my retirement plan. He's going to take care of me.

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He's pretty well to do. I mean, he's saying he's

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a good guy, he's got a good job, he takes

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good care of his mom. Now and I really don't

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have a I gotta figure I'll be working up probably

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the week before I may die, who knows, but you know,

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I know I've got I've got I know I'll be

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into my eighties. Mediums have told me this, A couple

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of them have, So I've got I've got it. I've

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got like twenty more good years ahead of me. So

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I'm really gonna just I'm just gonna live it and

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you know, work in as long as I can and

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enjoy it and yeah, it's I can't think, you know,

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I just sit around and watch TV all day. You know,

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I can do that like once, you know, months or

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twice a month, but yeah, it just never even never

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even occurs to me.

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Yeah, I'm also in the job that you have. If

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you love what you do, you're less like it.

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It's out.

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Time's up.

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Yeah why, I mean it's hard. And I work with lawyers,

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you know, but I've been working with them since i

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was fifteen years old, so I've been working in this

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field for so long. I know what I'm doing. I

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enjoy them. I know how to handle them. They're kind

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of like teenagers with degrees, but you know, but it's yeah,

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I enjoy it, really do.

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No plans to stop until you until you absolutely have

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to because you don't want to.

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Because I don't want to. I don't want to, I

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don't you know. It's like, I mean, okay, don't get

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me wrong. If I win the you know, win the latto, yeah,

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well then that'll that changes everything. Just gonna go, you know,

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just you know, just so you know, I'm not gonna go.

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I'm I'm gonna win the lottery and then I'm gonna

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go to work. Every frigging day, right, happen, you know,

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But I still work part time. You know, I do something.

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But you know, again, at this point, it's like, no,

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I'm I'm I'm in for the long haul. And people

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like me can do that because we know what we're doing.

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So there's no age limits or seedlings to crack.

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No, No, I'm a paralegal, okay, and I you know,

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and I'm I'm. I maintained my education. I know what's

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going on. I'm not when I was like, I have

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learned enough, No, I have not. I'm learning constantly because

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a lot of change, life changes. I just love it.

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And outside of work, I mean family, friends, you know what,

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what's some of the interests and things that you enjoy doing.

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I do a lot of wine tasting. I enjoy a

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good martini, good people. Right, Yes, moderation is key. My

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mom taught me that moderation is key. So when martini

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is good to martini is bad, Well, depends on what

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I'm doing. Foods. Food is important. But I know I

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spend a lot of time, you know, hanging out with girlfriends.

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I have a lot, and I have the most incredible

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group of friends and and I tell people this and

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I and I've told you know, the girls that I

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raised and I call them because I had you know,

479
00:21:34.599 --> 00:21:37.400
I had a bunch of girls that I raised. Part

480
00:21:37.400 --> 00:21:39.519
of my child and my son's friend group is that,

481
00:21:39.599 --> 00:21:41.000
you know, one of the most important things you can

482
00:21:41.039 --> 00:21:43.519
do for yourself is have a group of women in

483
00:21:43.559 --> 00:21:45.960
your life. Do not you know, do not make that

484
00:21:46.000 --> 00:21:48.440
one man your you know, or that boyfriend or whatever

485
00:21:48.440 --> 00:21:50.559
it is, you know, your center of your life. It's

486
00:21:50.559 --> 00:21:52.720
important to have a try to have, you know, a

487
00:21:52.759 --> 00:21:55.759
group of women to support you and you know, and

488
00:21:55.839 --> 00:21:58.240
reach you know, be able to be honest with you

489
00:21:59.000 --> 00:22:01.079
and you know, bring you up when you're down and

490
00:22:01.200 --> 00:22:03.559
support you when you're doing great. So you know that

491
00:22:03.680 --> 00:22:05.519
is you know, I tell people that over and over again.

492
00:22:06.119 --> 00:22:09.119
With friends, I'm I'm everybody's advisor. You know, if you're

493
00:22:09.160 --> 00:22:12.119
having a bad day, they call Tanya and you know

494
00:22:12.599 --> 00:22:14.240
you'll be laughing that by the end and you know,

495
00:22:14.279 --> 00:22:18.160
getting your power back. So that's that is my gift

496
00:22:18.240 --> 00:22:20.920
is having they call my friends call me the friend whisperer.

497
00:22:21.759 --> 00:22:24.000
Are you the one that brings everybody together? Tanya? Are

498
00:22:24.000 --> 00:22:25.920
you the coordinator? And like to say, Okay, we're gonna

499
00:22:25.920 --> 00:22:26.200
do here.

500
00:22:26.359 --> 00:22:28.960
Yeah, yeah, and I and yeah exactly, you know, well,

501
00:22:28.960 --> 00:22:31.240
you know, let's do this, let's do that. And then

502
00:22:31.440 --> 00:22:33.400
you know, when it's always a gaggle of girls, you know,

503
00:22:33.440 --> 00:22:34.799
there's a bunch of us. So we called it where

504
00:22:34.880 --> 00:22:37.119
we have a tribe called a tribe that you know,

505
00:22:37.160 --> 00:22:39.039
we have their constant, our little feed that we go

506
00:22:39.119 --> 00:22:41.680
through all the time, our little h our text messages.

507
00:22:42.319 --> 00:22:45.119
But it's you know, and then bringing you know, new

508
00:22:45.160 --> 00:22:47.839
people in too. You know, it's you know, it's hard

509
00:22:48.240 --> 00:22:50.000
a lot of times to get into a group of girls,

510
00:22:50.160 --> 00:22:52.640
like especially you know, one of one of our newest

511
00:22:52.640 --> 00:22:55.319
members of our tribe was married for twenty three years

512
00:22:56.640 --> 00:22:59.640
and just lost and it's like, okay, let's bring Tracy

513
00:22:59.680 --> 00:23:01.720
and let's bring her into the group. And she's just

514
00:23:01.799 --> 00:23:05.480
like thriving now, you know, it's just living her best life.

515
00:23:05.480 --> 00:23:07.039
And she just you know, didn't know how she was

516
00:23:07.039 --> 00:23:09.359
going to go on in her life and now she's amazing.

517
00:23:09.359 --> 00:23:10.519
She's one of my best buddies.

518
00:23:11.440 --> 00:23:12.559
I think people need that.

519
00:23:12.640 --> 00:23:14.920
I think as we grow older, to have that tribe

520
00:23:14.960 --> 00:23:17.039
or that adopted family or whatever you want to call

521
00:23:17.079 --> 00:23:21.480
it is so crucial to staying active, social involved, out

522
00:23:21.519 --> 00:23:22.799
there life.

523
00:23:23.359 --> 00:23:25.480
I think people a lot of people don't have that.

524
00:23:25.599 --> 00:23:28.640
I know, I know that's why I always have that.

525
00:23:28.799 --> 00:23:29.359
I have that.

526
00:23:29.519 --> 00:23:33.200
But then as years went by, you know here in

527
00:23:33.240 --> 00:23:35.880
the Bay Area, Don moved away.

528
00:23:35.839 --> 00:23:36.839
Six years ago.

529
00:23:36.920 --> 00:23:40.680
Yeah, okay, another friend right after that, another friend moved

530
00:23:40.720 --> 00:23:43.839
to the East Coast because there his parents are getting older,

531
00:23:43.880 --> 00:23:45.799
and you know, he didn't want to be across the country.

532
00:23:46.680 --> 00:23:51.079
So for work or family or other reasons, some people

533
00:23:51.200 --> 00:23:54.799
physically moved away, and then that group, that tribe that

534
00:23:54.839 --> 00:23:58.440
I had kind of slowly just kind of drifted away.

535
00:23:59.680 --> 00:24:02.559
Because I was one of the ones that would wrangle everyone.

536
00:24:02.559 --> 00:24:04.519
Hey it's someone says birthday. Hey it's a holiday, what's

537
00:24:04.559 --> 00:24:07.359
going on? And so the first year after Don moved

538
00:24:07.400 --> 00:24:09.720
away and another friend moved away, I did a test.

539
00:24:09.920 --> 00:24:11.880
For one year, I did not reach out to the

540
00:24:11.920 --> 00:24:14.920
other guys. I said, you know, why do I always

541
00:24:14.920 --> 00:24:18.039
have to be the one to bring everyone together? And

542
00:24:18.079 --> 00:24:20.720
then I ran into someone at one of Don's events.

543
00:24:20.720 --> 00:24:23.400
I went down to visit him in Palm Springs, and

544
00:24:23.599 --> 00:24:27.279
I think it was it was Anthony's birthday, so we

545
00:24:27.279 --> 00:24:29.640
were all together and he said, Gary, no, but you

546
00:24:29.799 --> 00:24:33.200
have to wrangle us because that's what you do. It's like, oh, okay,

547
00:24:33.440 --> 00:24:36.279
so it falls on me. You can easily wrangle, but no,

548
00:24:36.319 --> 00:24:39.240
apparently it's my job. So that's been a challenge for

549
00:24:39.279 --> 00:24:42.640
me over several years, is that that group kind of

550
00:24:42.720 --> 00:24:45.880
drifted away. So during the pandemic, when you know, Don

551
00:24:45.880 --> 00:24:47.559
and I would keep in touch and we're both going

552
00:24:47.599 --> 00:24:49.640
a little stir crazy, so we decided to meet in

553
00:24:49.680 --> 00:24:52.680
Santa Barbara halfway point and just hang out. And then

554
00:24:52.799 --> 00:24:56.000
the idea came up to do a podcast because there

555
00:24:56.079 --> 00:24:58.200
was a way to stay connected and on a regular

556
00:24:58.200 --> 00:25:01.279
basis because we can't physically see each other all the time. Right,

557
00:25:01.319 --> 00:25:03.279
the last time I saw him was two and a

558
00:25:03.279 --> 00:25:04.000
half years ago.

559
00:25:04.240 --> 00:25:05.720
I see you all the time on this.

560
00:25:05.960 --> 00:25:08.119
Yeah, on this, but in person. The last time he

561
00:25:08.200 --> 00:25:12.079
was up here was for my sixtieth Right, I'm sixt

562
00:25:12.079 --> 00:25:13.960
two and a half now, so yeah, so we don't

563
00:25:13.960 --> 00:25:16.160
get that opportunity to see together. So it is nice to

564
00:25:16.160 --> 00:25:16.839
have this connection.

565
00:25:17.039 --> 00:25:19.559
So well, Zoom was a great way so during just

566
00:25:19.759 --> 00:25:23.039
tell you are during COVID when that happened, and like

567
00:25:23.119 --> 00:25:25.160
you know, I'm a social person. I mean, I I

568
00:25:25.319 --> 00:25:27.920
go out, I do It's important for me to have

569
00:25:28.000 --> 00:25:32.400
that connection. So we started doing we I started a

570
00:25:32.480 --> 00:25:37.279
Friday night happy hour on Zoom, so we had Friday so,

571
00:25:37.759 --> 00:25:40.039
you know, sometimes I would have as many as twenty

572
00:25:40.039 --> 00:25:42.160
people on Zoom. I'm like, okay, you know, just say

573
00:25:42.200 --> 00:25:43.599
it out there. I go. Listen, you go, We're having

574
00:25:43.599 --> 00:25:47.680
a happy hour. Grab your cocktails, grab your oarsdiures, We're

575
00:25:47.680 --> 00:25:49.720
having a happy hour. Let's you know, let's call you know,

576
00:25:49.759 --> 00:25:51.759
just get together and connect. And I had my girlfriend

577
00:25:51.759 --> 00:25:55.119
from that lives in Australia. She came in on it.

578
00:25:55.119 --> 00:25:57.160
It would be the morning for her, but you know,

579
00:25:57.279 --> 00:25:59.440
it came like a Friday night thing, and people were

580
00:25:59.480 --> 00:26:02.319
so excited about it for us to do that, and

581
00:26:02.359 --> 00:26:05.559
we could connect. And then with my family because you know,

582
00:26:05.680 --> 00:26:08.480
I'm super close with my son and with my brother Tony,

583
00:26:08.559 --> 00:26:10.839
and he's just turned fifty and so we would do

584
00:26:11.039 --> 00:26:14.559
family game night on Saturday nights. Fine, so we would

585
00:26:14.599 --> 00:26:17.519
all order dinner. Okay, let's order dinner. Sometimes we all

586
00:26:17.599 --> 00:26:21.799
order from Bennie Honae because Beniy Hanna delivers, and we'd

587
00:26:21.799 --> 00:26:24.400
all order our dinner from Benny Hannah, have it delivered

588
00:26:24.440 --> 00:26:27.000
at our to our houses and then we'd have dinner

589
00:26:27.000 --> 00:26:31.720
together on zoom nice and play a game, you know,

590
00:26:31.759 --> 00:26:33.559
on some one of the games that they had online

591
00:26:33.599 --> 00:26:36.480
that they might. They're techy guys, so they would.

592
00:26:36.880 --> 00:26:37.039
Yeah.

593
00:26:37.160 --> 00:26:38.839
So you know it was it was a really good

594
00:26:38.880 --> 00:26:40.440
important way to you know, to get next. So we

595
00:26:40.480 --> 00:26:44.599
were connected, even though we couldn't hug each other, right,

596
00:26:44.759 --> 00:26:46.039
and you know, we all got through.

597
00:26:46.079 --> 00:26:46.599
It was good.

598
00:26:47.559 --> 00:26:49.720
It sounds like though, it sounds like all three of

599
00:26:49.799 --> 00:26:51.960
us might be the gatekeepers for this type of thing

600
00:26:52.000 --> 00:26:54.599
to continue, because it sounds like you're the one that

601
00:26:54.799 --> 00:26:56.039
keeps it going, Tanya.

602
00:26:56.119 --> 00:26:57.759
And then you know, Gary, you and I were doing

603
00:26:57.799 --> 00:26:59.240
that individually, and I may not.

604
00:26:59.440 --> 00:27:01.480
It might be just up to us to do that

605
00:27:01.559 --> 00:27:04.000
kind of stuff to people expect to be wrangled.

606
00:27:04.079 --> 00:27:05.559
Right, So, Donna, you are libra.

607
00:27:06.559 --> 00:27:08.839
I was just going to ask you that, Tanya. I

608
00:27:08.880 --> 00:27:10.759
was just going to ask you that I swear to God.

609
00:27:10.720 --> 00:27:13.799
I am also psychic too, So yeah, I was really

610
00:27:13.839 --> 00:27:15.880
just going to ask you that I'm a libra.

611
00:27:16.480 --> 00:27:18.720
Yeah I figured that I got that. Are you a libra?

612
00:27:18.880 --> 00:27:19.400
Are you libra?

613
00:27:19.480 --> 00:27:20.839
I'm ago? I'm a vergo.

614
00:27:21.039 --> 00:27:24.880
Okay, Gary's virgo. Don's a libra. Yeah, that's yeah, that's

615
00:27:25.000 --> 00:27:25.480
that's us.

616
00:27:25.559 --> 00:27:27.799
Those are anyways. So yeah, I mean I think it

617
00:27:27.880 --> 00:27:29.680
is crucial and is it like we're back to the

618
00:27:30.119 --> 00:27:30.680
age thing.

619
00:27:30.720 --> 00:27:33.039
It's like it's important to keep that going because people

620
00:27:33.079 --> 00:27:35.200
need the connection as you get older, and you know,

621
00:27:35.279 --> 00:27:37.720
Tanya mentioned some people pass away, get people get older,

622
00:27:37.759 --> 00:27:39.440
there's sickness, there's things that happen.

623
00:27:39.680 --> 00:27:41.839
Life happens, and people go away.

624
00:27:42.039 --> 00:27:44.680
So maybe that's one of our roles going into the

625
00:27:44.680 --> 00:27:45.519
next millennia.

626
00:27:45.640 --> 00:27:47.599
You know, maybe we got to I accept that I

627
00:27:47.680 --> 00:27:48.039
do too.

628
00:27:48.079 --> 00:27:49.359
I enjoy doing it still.

629
00:27:49.519 --> 00:27:51.200
But I want to go back to question because we

630
00:27:51.240 --> 00:27:52.839
talked about your career a little bit. Have you had

631
00:27:52.839 --> 00:27:55.359
to reinvent Tanya at all? Have you had to change

632
00:27:55.480 --> 00:27:57.680
or pivot at all with your career because it sounds

633
00:27:57.720 --> 00:28:00.000
like you keep educated and you keep going to things

634
00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:01.279
that keep you involved.

635
00:28:01.359 --> 00:28:04.359
I you know, I haven't moved. I've been doing work

636
00:28:04.359 --> 00:28:08.119
in loft since I was fifteen, did you know, a

637
00:28:08.119 --> 00:28:09.880
little some other stuff, you know, maybe a couple of

638
00:28:09.920 --> 00:28:11.759
years of that, and you know, then you know, we

639
00:28:11.839 --> 00:28:13.640
took care of my mom. That was I was selling

640
00:28:13.640 --> 00:28:17.720
sex Boy's best job ever by the way, so fun.

641
00:28:18.240 --> 00:28:22.000
But I haven't I really really have just done this.

642
00:28:22.119 --> 00:28:26.400
I just get better at what I do. I've had

643
00:28:26.759 --> 00:28:31.720
very few jobs. I keep jobs twenty years, twelve years.

644
00:28:31.759 --> 00:28:33.480
I'm going in this job right now that I have

645
00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:36.000
because the other guys were retired. I'm in here for

646
00:28:36.079 --> 00:28:38.680
seven years, but these I'm going on six years, six

647
00:28:38.759 --> 00:28:40.920
years in May. So I don't you know, it's just

648
00:28:41.480 --> 00:28:44.200
I'm a high I'm a high commodity.

649
00:28:44.359 --> 00:28:45.480
Is that, yes, you are.

650
00:28:45.559 --> 00:28:47.720
I'm very talentlessed, I'm sure, but it's because I also

651
00:28:47.759 --> 00:28:49.920
read that you also are involved quite a bit with

652
00:28:50.079 --> 00:28:51.920
the community that you Oh yeah.

653
00:28:51.720 --> 00:28:55.960
The legal professionals Incorporated. It's what I do. And that's

654
00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:58.319
again going back to networking. I mean, I'm with a

655
00:28:58.319 --> 00:29:02.400
bunch of educated, intelligent people. I mean, and I'm not

656
00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:04.440
to say that I'm super smart, but you have to

657
00:29:04.519 --> 00:29:07.160
take a kind of special kind of crazy to do

658
00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:09.880
what we do. It's important legal stuff, and so I

659
00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:13.160
really enjoy hanging around a bunch of smart other smart people.

660
00:29:13.799 --> 00:29:16.799
I would say that eighty percent of my girlfriends are

661
00:29:16.880 --> 00:29:20.799
in the legal business. Paralegals, legal secretaries. You know in

662
00:29:20.880 --> 00:29:24.079
that you know a lawyer, lots of lawyers. It's because

663
00:29:24.160 --> 00:29:25.680
you know, it's what we do, and so we have

664
00:29:25.839 --> 00:29:28.599
you know, we share the same well unfortunately the same

665
00:29:28.680 --> 00:29:31.920
level of alcohol. I mean unfortunately it's you know, when

666
00:29:31.960 --> 00:29:34.799
it's it's a stressful job, and you know, I you know,

667
00:29:34.880 --> 00:29:36.880
it's it. You know, we'll go and have a drink

668
00:29:36.880 --> 00:29:38.680
and then we can just relax and talk about it

669
00:29:38.720 --> 00:29:41.759
or whatever. But I go to conferences four times a

670
00:29:41.839 --> 00:29:46.880
year with the Legal Professionals Incorporated. I'm been on my board,

671
00:29:46.920 --> 00:29:54.480
my local board for thirty years, thirty five years, and

672
00:29:55.079 --> 00:29:57.200
you know, so that's important to me. And again we're gathering,

673
00:29:57.240 --> 00:30:00.680
you know, gathering local professionals educating them because you know,

674
00:30:00.759 --> 00:30:03.079
that's we have to have. We have to have continued

675
00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:07.119
minimum continuing legal education m cls. I mean, we have

676
00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:10.240
to have that, and people don't even realize that. And

677
00:30:10.359 --> 00:30:13.880
so I'm bird really involved in doing that. I have

678
00:30:13.920 --> 00:30:18.640
a meeting on Tuesday. What is it on? Oh, trial binders.

679
00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:21.519
I mean, that's that's seriously, you don't have but that's

680
00:30:21.559 --> 00:30:24.319
you know, it's, you know, again something that we have

681
00:30:24.359 --> 00:30:27.200
to educate ourselves on. And we bring people in and

682
00:30:27.920 --> 00:30:30.599
educate us into it, and it's awesome. And I then

683
00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:37.279
I also, this is actually what I'm working on today.

684
00:30:38.279 --> 00:30:42.279
Excuse my but this nice little book.

685
00:30:43.400 --> 00:30:44.759
What do you mean you're working on that.

686
00:30:45.359 --> 00:30:48.200
I edit the family law chapter.

687
00:30:48.839 --> 00:30:51.880
Oh my god, it is like two sixty six pages.

688
00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:53.519
My god.

689
00:30:54.039 --> 00:30:56.920
So you know again, I update it, make sure it's current,

690
00:30:57.079 --> 00:30:59.039
check all the codes, and do all that into Actually,

691
00:30:59.039 --> 00:31:00.599
when I'm done with you guys, I'm going into the

692
00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:03.440
office and finalizing it, changing numbers and all that. So

693
00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:06.480
we're published. It's a published, one of our two publications

694
00:31:06.519 --> 00:31:11.160
that we do, and it's my passion and because I

695
00:31:11.319 --> 00:31:13.160
want people to be able to go into that book

696
00:31:13.200 --> 00:31:16.039
and know how to do what I do. So you know,

697
00:31:16.039 --> 00:31:18.440
in a lawyer, I've changed law. I trained many lawyers.

698
00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:20.839
You said to get on this book, with this book

699
00:31:21.839 --> 00:31:23.519
that'll tell you how to do it. And then they

700
00:31:23.559 --> 00:31:26.359
pay for my conferences, so you know, so I get

701
00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:28.720
to travel. I do these traveling and expenses are paid.

702
00:31:28.759 --> 00:31:30.599
So I like that, and get to hang out and

703
00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:31.480
party with these people.

704
00:31:32.079 --> 00:31:34.480
Okay, and we do party more real quick, one, has

705
00:31:34.720 --> 00:31:38.799
have you experienced in the workplace any forms of agism.

706
00:31:39.920 --> 00:31:40.319
At all?

707
00:31:41.000 --> 00:31:45.039
Not really in the workplace. Now when I was point,

708
00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:48.400
when I was looking for a job corporate America, it's

709
00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:50.759
not like old people, and I mean not that I

710
00:31:50.839 --> 00:31:52.160
was not that you could tell that I was old,

711
00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:54.440
only aside from the fact that I'd had a job

712
00:31:54.480 --> 00:31:56.960
for so long. You know that I'd been in you know,

713
00:31:57.160 --> 00:31:59.039
you know again, employed for so long, so you've got

714
00:31:59.079 --> 00:32:00.920
to be careful with your reds me on that I

715
00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:05.039
did do. Did notice though, that because of my name Tanya,

716
00:32:05.240 --> 00:32:07.319
there is little bias going on with my name Tanya.

717
00:32:08.640 --> 00:32:14.799
That's so because it is a predominantly African American name. Serious, serious,

718
00:32:14.839 --> 00:32:16.759
I actually I did, because I remember I had to.

719
00:32:17.200 --> 00:32:19.079
I did. One of the classes that we have to

720
00:32:19.079 --> 00:32:21.279
take is called elimination of bias. That's what part of

721
00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:23.720
our our the MCLs that we have to participate in,

722
00:32:23.880 --> 00:32:27.039
and that was that came up A lot is name names.

723
00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:31.279
So it was namism people you be biased about my

724
00:32:31.400 --> 00:32:34.319
name and also the most how along I've been working

725
00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:37.240
obviously I had been around for a long time. So

726
00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:41.920
but the smaller offices they want someone that is that's

727
00:32:41.960 --> 00:32:44.000
older and has experience.

728
00:32:43.880 --> 00:32:46.720
Mm hmm, the mole, reliable on time, all that good.

729
00:32:46.599 --> 00:32:48.000
Stuff, and I do like it.

730
00:32:48.000 --> 00:32:54.000
In my senior discount, I bet your reputation preceded you

731
00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:56.160
to Tanya because locally in the on the Peninsula.

732
00:32:56.200 --> 00:32:58.240
You probably are known in most of those offices.

733
00:32:58.240 --> 00:33:01.200
Anyway, Yeah, I know that I got the scoop on

734
00:33:01.319 --> 00:33:04.079
everything and everybody. I mean, it's but again it's I've

735
00:33:04.079 --> 00:33:06.559
been around so long. These people are retired, and the

736
00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:09.319
lawyers that became judges and now they're retired and here

737
00:33:09.359 --> 00:33:10.480
I am still doing my job.

738
00:33:11.200 --> 00:33:11.599
Mm hmm.

739
00:33:12.960 --> 00:33:14.759
So but I I know a lot of the lawyers

740
00:33:14.799 --> 00:33:15.720
will come and say, hey, do you know do you

741
00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:17.519
know that? Do you know this lawyer? What's going on?

742
00:33:17.680 --> 00:33:20.920
Maybe if I know somebody in their office or you know,

743
00:33:21.039 --> 00:33:23.440
I know that I talk to people all of it's

744
00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:25.559
all over the state of California, and they have, you know,

745
00:33:25.559 --> 00:33:27.640
with big law firms. So I got the scoop and

746
00:33:27.640 --> 00:33:28.960
the poop on what's going on.

747
00:33:29.400 --> 00:33:32.960
Okay, I want to jump in with a question not

748
00:33:33.000 --> 00:33:35.160
to do with age. But when I saw you was

749
00:33:35.160 --> 00:33:36.920
about a year and a half ago, because you and

750
00:33:36.920 --> 00:33:39.319
I also follow each other on Facebook, and you were

751
00:33:39.519 --> 00:33:42.680
promoting an event that happens the first Tuesday of the month.

752
00:33:42.799 --> 00:33:45.279
Mm hmm, and it's bingo at a club in San Mateo,

753
00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:47.720
and I thought, you know, that sounds like fun. I went,

754
00:33:48.160 --> 00:33:52.680
But the purpose of the the money that is raised

755
00:33:52.759 --> 00:33:53.559
is for veterans.

756
00:33:53.559 --> 00:33:55.119
If I'm not, yeah, it's there.

757
00:33:55.279 --> 00:33:56.160
Tell me a little bit about that.

758
00:33:56.240 --> 00:33:59.599
The American Legion, which very conveniently is right across the

759
00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:02.839
street from me, so that makes it super convenient. And

760
00:34:02.839 --> 00:34:05.799
they have fabulous bar, cheap drinks. Very important. But we

761
00:34:05.960 --> 00:34:09.079
actually we raise money and we do a lot of fundraisers,

762
00:34:09.480 --> 00:34:12.599
and that money goes directly. We buy stuff for the

763
00:34:12.760 --> 00:34:17.000
Mercy House, which is a center for veterans, for previously

764
00:34:17.079 --> 00:34:21.199
homeless veterans. And while you know, it's you know, great concept,

765
00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:24.519
they you know, they build these these apartments and they

766
00:34:24.559 --> 00:34:26.639
provide that, but they take that you know, the rent.

767
00:34:26.679 --> 00:34:28.440
They still have to pay rent, but it comes straight

768
00:34:28.440 --> 00:34:32.840
from their Veterans benefits, leaving them literally with one hundred

769
00:34:32.840 --> 00:34:35.679
and two hundred dollars a month to live on. So

770
00:34:36.039 --> 00:34:39.039
we take those funds directly. We buy them supplies, We

771
00:34:39.079 --> 00:34:41.719
buy them clothes. Actually this last week they were there

772
00:34:41.719 --> 00:34:44.760
on Thursday and we probably bought a thousand clothing professional

773
00:34:44.960 --> 00:34:50.679
brand new clothing from Costco. Pants, socks, underwear, shirts, towels,

774
00:34:50.760 --> 00:34:52.800
and bedding. So, you know, it's just a way to

775
00:34:52.840 --> 00:34:55.840
give back. And I mean, I volunteer work is really

776
00:34:55.840 --> 00:35:01.000
important to me to give back. I well, I've been voluntaring,

777
00:35:01.039 --> 00:35:05.639
like with the legal professionals from you know for thirty years,

778
00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:07.719
did the Relay for Life that really helped me get

779
00:35:07.719 --> 00:35:10.039
through losing my mom to cancer, and did you know

780
00:35:10.199 --> 00:35:13.480
did that for like eight years and just raising money,

781
00:35:13.679 --> 00:35:15.320
raising money to get people. You know, people want to

782
00:35:15.320 --> 00:35:17.519
go and do what I do because I have fun.

783
00:35:17.800 --> 00:35:19.559
So if you like people like, oh yeah, you want

784
00:35:19.559 --> 00:35:21.480
Tonya around because she will get her friends to come

785
00:35:21.519 --> 00:35:24.559
and play and they do nice and that's what they

786
00:35:24.559 --> 00:35:26.400
do at bingo. I usually have like ten or fifteen

787
00:35:26.440 --> 00:35:29.760
friends that show up. But yeah, it's it's in that

788
00:35:29.920 --> 00:35:32.039
and the money goes directly to the veterans. I know

789
00:35:32.119 --> 00:35:35.039
this for a fact. I mean donating to these big

790
00:35:35.079 --> 00:35:39.840
corporations you don't know, right, I know this for a fact.

791
00:35:39.880 --> 00:35:41.880
I know that where I know exactly where that money goes.

792
00:35:41.920 --> 00:35:44.320
I was a treasurer one year and I you know,

793
00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:46.719
I know exactly where the money came in and where

794
00:35:46.719 --> 00:35:49.400
the money went out. And that that's important to me.

795
00:35:49.920 --> 00:35:52.199
That's not going to corporate you know, not going to

796
00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:55.559
the CEO or the CEO of the corporation.

797
00:35:56.400 --> 00:35:58.119
Non administrative costs.

798
00:35:58.440 --> 00:36:02.320
Yes, exactly. Yeah, all volunteer work super important.

799
00:36:03.840 --> 00:36:06.559
Well, thank you for sharing that, because that I don't

800
00:36:06.559 --> 00:36:09.519
see it advertised much, but you still obviously still happens everything.

801
00:36:09.960 --> 00:36:12.320
I mean, I put it on Facebook, I put it

802
00:36:12.360 --> 00:36:15.800
on next door. No, that's you know good. We actually

803
00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:17.239
have We're doing a car show at the end of

804
00:36:17.239 --> 00:36:19.079
the month. I mean it's super cheap to you know,

805
00:36:19.119 --> 00:36:21.000
to it's like twenty five dollars the show, you know,

806
00:36:21.320 --> 00:36:23.800
to come in, twenty dollars for lunch and it's just

807
00:36:24.320 --> 00:36:26.800
an event. It's good to keep the veterans. Well, there's

808
00:36:26.800 --> 00:36:28.760
a lot of sons of veterans, but you know, the

809
00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:31.440
veterans and you know, involved in doing stuff. But you know,

810
00:36:31.440 --> 00:36:34.480
it's important. My dad was a Vietnam vet and so

811
00:36:34.920 --> 00:36:38.719
that's my homage to him. And to hang out with Robby.

812
00:36:38.760 --> 00:36:41.679
It's close to your heart. And also because of what's

813
00:36:41.679 --> 00:36:44.360
happening in the news, it just seems even more important

814
00:36:44.400 --> 00:36:45.719
now to keep that work going.

815
00:36:47.079 --> 00:36:50.599
Hey, Tanya, So with your with your work again, do

816
00:36:50.639 --> 00:36:53.559
you find that there's a lot of millennials or the

817
00:36:53.599 --> 00:36:56.079
gen Z or gen x is coming into your industry

818
00:36:56.159 --> 00:36:58.840
or your workplace that you have trouble communicating with or

819
00:36:58.880 --> 00:37:01.480
does the work at the different that you can notice

820
00:37:01.559 --> 00:37:02.280
or see.

821
00:37:02.159 --> 00:37:04.960
Well for me because I'm the HEADHND of the house,

822
00:37:05.079 --> 00:37:06.880
the house that I'm in now, those are those are

823
00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:09.119
my lawyers. I have three. I don't have anybody else.

824
00:37:09.159 --> 00:37:11.800
I do it at all. Actually, so I have not

825
00:37:12.079 --> 00:37:14.880
experienced that. But I'll tell you what I have experienced

826
00:37:14.920 --> 00:37:16.679
is the fact. And then and this is on you know,

827
00:37:16.880 --> 00:37:19.920
I'm I mean, it's not just for California or at my

828
00:37:19.960 --> 00:37:21.960
local level. Is that the younger people that are coming

829
00:37:21.960 --> 00:37:26.800
in and doing what I do, they don't like to socialize,

830
00:37:27.079 --> 00:37:31.079
they're not networking. We are having a really difficult time

831
00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:35.320
getting people to come to a meeting, to come in person.

832
00:37:35.559 --> 00:37:36.920
A lot of it is because you know, they can

833
00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:41.320
do everything online. They're very screen oriented. And again you

834
00:37:41.360 --> 00:37:43.440
know that's I mean, I know that my son too.

835
00:37:43.480 --> 00:37:45.599
I mean he had to he had to have built

836
00:37:45.599 --> 00:37:48.639
his first computer before he could get one. He said, okay,

837
00:37:48.679 --> 00:37:51.039
you gotta build one. So he got the stuff and

838
00:37:51.159 --> 00:37:53.400
he built his first computer when he's like fifteen. But

839
00:37:54.280 --> 00:37:56.280
they're all computer. It's all about the screen. It's all

840
00:37:56.280 --> 00:37:59.400
about that. And so that is the big thing. And

841
00:37:59.400 --> 00:38:02.360
then we've experience it over and over again with our organization,

842
00:38:02.639 --> 00:38:05.559
is that people aren't wanting to meet. You can't get

843
00:38:05.599 --> 00:38:07.440
people to go to dinner and buy, you know, have

844
00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:10.199
a meeting. And that's how we, you know, conducted everything.

845
00:38:10.360 --> 00:38:12.119
We're doing everything on zoom. Now. I'm like, you know,

846
00:38:12.159 --> 00:38:14.400
we just got to surrender to twenty twenty five kids.

847
00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:17.239
It's yeah, how they do it.

848
00:38:17.800 --> 00:38:19.400
Yeah, but it is true.

849
00:38:19.400 --> 00:38:21.400
But I think I think there's gonna be some fallout

850
00:38:21.400 --> 00:38:23.800
from all of this later on, when we're in our

851
00:38:23.840 --> 00:38:26.199
eighties or something, when people are literally not talking to

852
00:38:26.239 --> 00:38:28.840
each I see the same thing all the time. Very

853
00:38:29.039 --> 00:38:31.480
seldom do people in the workplace want to get out

854
00:38:31.679 --> 00:38:34.400
from behind their screen and meet up for a cocktail

855
00:38:34.480 --> 00:38:37.000
or meet up for an actual even a physical meeting.

856
00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:40.079
But there's so much more to be gained by that interaction.

857
00:38:40.360 --> 00:38:44.440
Absolutely the things I think unfortunately that's going to play

858
00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:48.679
negatively later on when these kids don't know how to

859
00:38:48.679 --> 00:38:50.440
talk to because I see so many times in the restaurant,

860
00:38:50.440 --> 00:38:51.239
so I'm sure you need too.

861
00:38:51.519 --> 00:38:54.119
A parent goes with their kid, two parents, they're both

862
00:38:54.119 --> 00:38:54.679
on their phones.

863
00:38:54.719 --> 00:38:57.440
They hand the kid a pad, an iPad or something

864
00:38:57.440 --> 00:38:59.639
to look at, and they don't even talk to each other.

865
00:39:01.119 --> 00:39:03.719
Have we turned into our parents now? Because is this

866
00:39:03.719 --> 00:39:05.920
the kind of stuff our parents.

867
00:39:05.440 --> 00:39:09.599
You know, would covetch about when we were their age too?

868
00:39:09.880 --> 00:39:12.960
Well, I don't, you know, I don't I remember. I

869
00:39:13.199 --> 00:39:15.039
remember being just very social with and you know, with

870
00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:16.719
my mom and we she took us out to dinner

871
00:39:16.760 --> 00:39:19.559
all the time, and that's you know, and that was

872
00:39:19.559 --> 00:39:21.079
a social thing, you know, and she's like, you need

873
00:39:21.119 --> 00:39:22.840
to go, you know, to teach us how to behave.

874
00:39:23.239 --> 00:39:24.840
And I did the same thing with my child. I

875
00:39:24.880 --> 00:39:26.840
brought him out to dinner and said, you know, so

876
00:39:26.920 --> 00:39:28.760
he knew how to you know, to act and behave,

877
00:39:28.840 --> 00:39:32.079
not to be like a crazy kid. Sure they're so

878
00:39:32.199 --> 00:39:34.679
crazy out they're not. And now you know, and you know,

879
00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:36.800
as a result of how what I taught my kid,

880
00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:39.800
his obsession now he's he's a Michelin's. He likes to

881
00:39:39.800 --> 00:39:43.480
go to Michelin Stars restaurants. That's what he does. He's like,

882
00:39:43.519 --> 00:39:45.519
you know, he gets to travel a lot with his job,

883
00:39:45.679 --> 00:39:47.599
so he's like, he goes to Chicago, he finds the

884
00:39:47.599 --> 00:39:50.719
Michelin Star New York. I don't know. He was just

885
00:39:50.760 --> 00:39:52.519
in you know, in southern California. I know, if he

886
00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:54.239
went to a Michelin star there, but usually he does

887
00:39:54.719 --> 00:39:56.719
and it's just like you know, but he I taught

888
00:39:56.800 --> 00:40:00.000
him to enjoy good food and experience, you know, experience,

889
00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:04.119
it's new things. And he's got a he has expensive

890
00:40:04.119 --> 00:40:07.239
taste in food and wine like his mom.

891
00:40:08.800 --> 00:40:10.920
Nothing wrong with that, but he appreciates it.

892
00:40:10.960 --> 00:40:13.679
So yeah, exactly, it's about the experience.

893
00:40:13.519 --> 00:40:16.000
Right, I mean to sound like my parents.

894
00:40:16.000 --> 00:40:19.320
Though we've instilled I mean, our parents instilled very good

895
00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:23.280
basic habits into ourselves. I'm just concerned for the next

896
00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:25.719
generation of children who are out there are not getting

897
00:40:25.760 --> 00:40:28.920
anything instilled to them other than to interact with a scream.

898
00:40:29.239 --> 00:40:33.320
Yeah, And unfortunately I can't do anything about it. I really,

899
00:40:33.360 --> 00:40:35.679
I really can't. I mean, I have my son doesn't

900
00:40:35.679 --> 00:40:40.679
have any children. He has dogs. I have dog grandpuppies, okay,

901
00:40:40.719 --> 00:40:43.159
and I see it, and it's just it is. It's

902
00:40:43.199 --> 00:40:46.079
a problem, it really is. And the only thing I

903
00:40:46.079 --> 00:40:48.199
can do is keep on doing what I do. And

904
00:40:48.280 --> 00:40:50.360
you know, again, by the way, I can get people

905
00:40:50.400 --> 00:40:52.119
to come to a wine taste. And I'm just now

906
00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:55.519
starting along to another group of women's group called PEO,

907
00:40:56.280 --> 00:40:59.199
and we're doing enough wine tasting fundraiser out of super

908
00:40:59.239 --> 00:41:03.360
successful One Life last year. Tea parties. People love tea parties.

909
00:41:03.880 --> 00:41:05.880
I can gather people will come for a tea party.

910
00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:08.679
They'll come for you know, a talco night, but there

911
00:41:08.880 --> 00:41:10.519
has to be you know. But they don't want to

912
00:41:10.559 --> 00:41:12.039
come and meet, you know about you know, with a

913
00:41:12.039 --> 00:41:14.000
bunch of you know, for an organization and let's have

914
00:41:14.039 --> 00:41:17.159
a meeting like that. It's just it's just weird. And

915
00:41:17.199 --> 00:41:19.320
I just don't even know how. I'm just trying. I

916
00:41:19.360 --> 00:41:21.239
keep on trying. I really do.

917
00:41:22.920 --> 00:41:25.239
Well with all the energy you have and the comments

918
00:41:25.280 --> 00:41:28.639
you shared about how your son and his friends, you know,

919
00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:32.280
I think they help you keep you young. So one

920
00:41:32.320 --> 00:41:33.800
of the questions we asked, but I don't think this

921
00:41:33.800 --> 00:41:37.599
will apply to you, is that was it turning sixty

922
00:41:37.719 --> 00:41:41.360
or maybe turning fifty? Were any of those transitional ages

923
00:41:41.480 --> 00:41:43.599
an issue for you yet? Was it ever a concern

924
00:41:43.719 --> 00:41:46.000
like I'm turning fifty, Oh, I'm turning sixty now?

925
00:41:46.039 --> 00:41:52.440
In fact, sixty was I had through myself a fabulous

926
00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:56.719
party for my sixtieth and no, I mean I'm embracing it.

927
00:41:56.800 --> 00:41:58.679
I think that, you know, my sixties are going to

928
00:41:58.719 --> 00:42:01.880
be the best decade ever not. You know, I feel

929
00:42:02.320 --> 00:42:06.159
I feel more powerful, I feel more grounded. I know

930
00:42:06.239 --> 00:42:08.440
what I'm doing. I'm not like going on you know,

931
00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:09.719
oh what am I going to do next? So what

932
00:42:09.719 --> 00:42:11.119
am I going to do next? I'm gonna do exactly

933
00:42:11.159 --> 00:42:14.519
what I'm doing. Yeah, as there was a post that

934
00:42:14.599 --> 00:42:16.440
it's just so resonated with me. It's like, you know,

935
00:42:16.599 --> 00:42:19.239
I do this thing now called whatever the fuck I want.

936
00:42:21.000 --> 00:42:24.000
I just love that and I do. You know, it's

937
00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:25.760
like no one tells me what to do, and you know,

938
00:42:25.800 --> 00:42:30.679
and I truly enjoy everything that I do, giving less.

939
00:42:31.320 --> 00:42:34.400
I'm not worried about things anymore. Not that I was

940
00:42:34.400 --> 00:42:39.400
ever a big worrier. I'm but I'm like, I feel

941
00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:44.800
grounded and satisfied and like, you know, I'm going to

942
00:42:44.880 --> 00:42:46.400
have a great day to day. I have to go

943
00:42:46.400 --> 00:42:47.679
into the office, I'm going to do some work, but

944
00:42:47.679 --> 00:42:49.599
I'm gonna coomplish something and that's gonna make me proud.

945
00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:52.239
But you know, I'm like looking at my soaf, my calendars,

946
00:42:52.239 --> 00:42:55.039
Like Monday night, I go to the Italian Club on

947
00:42:55.119 --> 00:42:57.880
you know, the fourth and the Sanmaite Peninsula Italian Club,

948
00:42:57.880 --> 00:43:00.679
which is fabulous. They have a big dinner every uh

949
00:43:01.000 --> 00:43:03.559
you know, the fourth Tuesday Monday of the month, or

950
00:43:03.599 --> 00:43:08.400
I'm like the youngest person there. I'm not the youngest,

951
00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:11.320
but I like to think that I am. You know,

952
00:43:11.559 --> 00:43:13.800
you see no group of attire. Again, trying to keep

953
00:43:13.800 --> 00:43:17.960
a social club together. It's hard. And again it's a

954
00:43:17.960 --> 00:43:21.480
bunch of old people. Well I'm sorry old people they are.

955
00:43:21.719 --> 00:43:24.519
They probably are my age too, you know, but you know,

956
00:43:24.639 --> 00:43:27.199
keeping that social life going. It's just just keep on

957
00:43:27.280 --> 00:43:30.960
going and just you know, enjoining and like Saturday, yesterday

958
00:43:31.039 --> 00:43:34.800
was Saturday. I mean I had a blast on Friday

959
00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:37.360
night and Saturday, I'm like, I am having a chill day.

960
00:43:37.679 --> 00:43:39.360
I'm gonna do you know. I had to did a

961
00:43:39.400 --> 00:43:41.719
few things, but I needed just you know, I just

962
00:43:41.760 --> 00:43:43.519
need to chill. I was so excited. I'm like, I'm

963
00:43:43.559 --> 00:43:47.280
gonna I binged the Residence, which was fabulous, highly recommend

964
00:43:47.280 --> 00:43:49.920
on Netflix. And you know it's just like if I

965
00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:52.360
want to do nothing, I get to do that.

966
00:43:53.119 --> 00:43:53.239
Right.

967
00:43:53.800 --> 00:43:55.800
The rest of the time, I'm out there doing stuff

968
00:43:55.840 --> 00:43:59.280
and enjoy you know, just enjoying this being sixty and

969
00:43:59.280 --> 00:44:02.360
not looking six day, which I love, yah, because.

970
00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:03.679
I think when I was mentioning we were trying to

971
00:44:03.920 --> 00:44:06.719
connect for our test run yesterday, and he's like, well,

972
00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:09.960
eventually you texted me and said, listen, what time are

973
00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:11.760
we doing this? Because I have plans, I have things

974
00:44:11.800 --> 00:44:13.760
to do. So it's like, I see it sounds like

975
00:44:13.800 --> 00:44:16.360
you like enjoy having your schedule full, but I think

976
00:44:16.360 --> 00:44:19.119
it's just as important to turn that off.

977
00:44:19.360 --> 00:44:21.480
So you know, I'm not doing ship today, I'm not

978
00:44:21.519 --> 00:44:22.360
doing anything.

979
00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:24.840
Yeah, my great plans yesterday. I'm like, you know I

980
00:44:24.840 --> 00:44:26.960
had to make I had, I just made better choices.

981
00:44:27.039 --> 00:44:28.760
And again, you know I have to, you know, balance

982
00:44:28.800 --> 00:44:30.880
out the choices because I was I was going to

983
00:44:30.960 --> 00:44:33.400
drive down to Santa Cruz and the like, I'll probably

984
00:44:33.480 --> 00:44:36.199
end up spending the night if I got lucky. Sure,

985
00:44:36.480 --> 00:44:39.000
And I'm like, I just like I needed to want

986
00:44:39.039 --> 00:44:40.920
to make sure that I was here and bride eye

987
00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:43.639
and bushy tails good.

988
00:44:43.719 --> 00:44:44.639
We appreciate that.

989
00:44:45.239 --> 00:44:48.920
Is there anything you'd like to do that you've never

990
00:44:49.000 --> 00:44:49.639
done before?

991
00:44:49.760 --> 00:44:51.599
It could be anything. It doesn't be career, it could

992
00:44:51.599 --> 00:44:53.400
be is there is there a did you ever want

993
00:44:53.400 --> 00:44:55.440
to paint? Did you ever want to be a long

994
00:44:55.480 --> 00:44:58.840
distance marathon runner? Did you Well, don't make that face.

995
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:02.159
Ample, there's there's something you'd still like to do that

996
00:45:02.199 --> 00:45:03.119
you haven't done yet.

997
00:45:03.920 --> 00:45:07.440
I've never been to New York. Okay, Okay, so that's

998
00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:10.239
something I like to do. Actually, I need to get

999
00:45:10.280 --> 00:45:12.239
my Maybe I'll go get my passport picture today. I

1000
00:45:12.239 --> 00:45:14.679
need to get a passport picture. I lost mine. Well

1001
00:45:14.719 --> 00:45:16.440
it's actually locked in the safe and I lost the key.

1002
00:45:16.599 --> 00:45:19.840
But it's expired anyway, And I'm going to Mexico with

1003
00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:22.280
the family. We're having a scum family vacation. I'm so

1004
00:45:22.360 --> 00:45:26.519
excited in Mexico. But I mean there's not I mean,

1005
00:45:26.559 --> 00:45:31.800
I like I've done I want to go to Sodona, Sedona, Sodona. Yeah,

1006
00:45:31.880 --> 00:45:35.119
and you know, but you know, I'm not in a hurry.

1007
00:45:36.559 --> 00:45:39.199
I but I it probably should be like you know,

1008
00:45:39.280 --> 00:45:42.360
I just I love I mean, I can watch on TV,

1009
00:45:42.480 --> 00:45:47.400
I can I travel through TV. And then you know,

1010
00:45:47.400 --> 00:45:51.159
we got the PR But yeah, there's not really I've

1011
00:45:51.159 --> 00:45:53.960
been to Hawaii over thirty times, so I mean I

1012
00:45:54.000 --> 00:45:55.480
go there all the time. I was just there in

1013
00:45:55.519 --> 00:45:59.840
December and yeah, so I mean not really do.

1014
00:45:59.800 --> 00:46:01.280
You do you have a place there or you just

1015
00:46:01.280 --> 00:46:02.440
go like to go visit.

1016
00:46:02.960 --> 00:46:05.559
So my adopted sister Tony lives there. So I have

1017
00:46:05.880 --> 00:46:10.000
been blessed to have her, always have a beautiful place

1018
00:46:10.039 --> 00:46:12.480
to stay when I go there, and I just want

1019
00:46:12.519 --> 00:46:14.239
I just went with the guy that I that I've

1020
00:46:14.239 --> 00:46:18.440
been dating. He took me in December, which was really nice.

1021
00:46:19.400 --> 00:46:21.960
Two of the most important questions I have to ask

1022
00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:25.400
you are this first one is who would play you

1023
00:46:25.440 --> 00:46:29.119
in a TV or movie? Doesn't matter who would what

1024
00:46:29.199 --> 00:46:30.440
what actress.

1025
00:46:30.039 --> 00:46:31.679
Would portray Julia Roberts.

1026
00:46:31.880 --> 00:46:35.920
You didn't even wait? Nice? I know, so you relate

1027
00:46:35.960 --> 00:46:37.360
to her too, Just relate.

1028
00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:40.239
To who she is and it would energy absolutely.

1029
00:46:40.880 --> 00:46:42.000
Okay, that was easy.

1030
00:46:42.039 --> 00:46:44.039
Sometimes people struggle with that one because that's why I

1031
00:46:44.119 --> 00:46:45.039
kind of like put the question.

1032
00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:46.800
Okay, I got to go there. I bet you'll have

1033
00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:48.599
an answer for this one too. What is your go

1034
00:46:48.639 --> 00:46:50.239
to karaoke song?

1035
00:46:52.719 --> 00:46:55.559
Well, I say a few, but the one that everybody

1036
00:46:55.599 --> 00:46:57.440
gets everybody out on the dance floor is play that

1037
00:46:57.519 --> 00:47:02.760
funky music white Boy and It's It's fun. I actually

1038
00:47:02.800 --> 00:47:03.880
sang that Friday Night.

1039
00:47:05.079 --> 00:47:06.119
Nice Did you really?

1040
00:47:06.440 --> 00:47:06.639
Yeah?

1041
00:47:06.639 --> 00:47:06.960
I did?

1042
00:47:07.119 --> 00:47:08.440
Wow? Okay, yeah I did.

1043
00:47:08.880 --> 00:47:11.519
Or I'll do it. I do what was it? Another one?

1044
00:47:11.519 --> 00:47:14.360
I do? Eagles Hotel, California. That's one that I do.

1045
00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:18.199
I sang what was it? What's that song? Because I

1046
00:47:18.239 --> 00:47:20.239
was feeling it. You know, He's like, I can buy

1047
00:47:20.280 --> 00:47:21.440
my own flowers.

1048
00:47:21.960 --> 00:47:26.639
Oh okay, yeah, Oh that was like yeah.

1049
00:47:25.480 --> 00:47:27.440
And that's what I do, and I take care of myself.

1050
00:47:28.440 --> 00:47:29.320
Yeah, it's good.

1051
00:47:29.440 --> 00:47:31.320
Nobody needs to take care of me. I'm a bonus.

1052
00:47:31.360 --> 00:47:33.440
No, we got it. We got that, Lady Tea, I

1053
00:47:33.480 --> 00:47:34.400
got that for sure.

1054
00:47:35.039 --> 00:47:37.400
So now we're going to take a look back. If

1055
00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:41.079
you were to go back to talk to your twenty

1056
00:47:41.079 --> 00:47:43.159
five year old self, nineteen year old self, is there

1057
00:47:43.199 --> 00:47:46.559
any advice you would give them? Now?

1058
00:47:46.880 --> 00:47:49.960
Yes? Well nice, so just in it. For I got

1059
00:47:49.960 --> 00:47:52.800
married when I was nineteen, when I was twenty nine,

1060
00:47:52.960 --> 00:47:54.400
and when I was in thirty and when I was

1061
00:47:54.440 --> 00:47:57.199
thirty nine, got married in all these for whatever reason,

1062
00:47:57.199 --> 00:47:58.760
I looked at like, I always got married on my

1063
00:47:59.239 --> 00:48:04.360
I'm not your whatever for whatever reason. And nineteen year

1064
00:48:04.360 --> 00:48:12.039
old self, I would say, just wear sunscreen, because seriously,

1065
00:48:12.519 --> 00:48:14.639
I probably didn't take I should have done that. I mean,

1066
00:48:14.639 --> 00:48:18.760
I'm in good shape. But that's that's what I would

1067
00:48:18.760 --> 00:48:20.280
always tell the old self. Just you know, keep that

1068
00:48:20.320 --> 00:48:24.679
sunscreen going. You have a good skincare routine. Absolutely, that's

1069
00:48:25.159 --> 00:48:28.519
probably one of the most important things you can do.

1070
00:48:28.840 --> 00:48:29.719
I'm sorry.

1071
00:48:30.280 --> 00:48:31.880
No, that's a good one. Believe me. I just went

1072
00:48:31.880 --> 00:48:33.960
to the dermatologist. It's very valid.

1073
00:48:34.159 --> 00:48:37.440
Yeah, absolutely, I know. Now, I'm like, you know, I've

1074
00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:40.960
got hats everywhere. I try to wear hats, and I

1075
00:48:41.000 --> 00:48:42.719
mean I've got I mean, I'm not even I'll be

1076
00:48:42.760 --> 00:48:44.239
outside for a little bit day, but I've got you know,

1077
00:48:44.280 --> 00:48:46.000
I've got like three layers of sunscreen on my face

1078
00:48:46.039 --> 00:48:49.159
right now. On my hands. It's like it's just one

1079
00:48:49.159 --> 00:48:50.760
of those things you can tell your you know, your

1080
00:48:50.760 --> 00:48:56.679
hands that your age will show in your hands. Remember that.

1081
00:48:54.719 --> 00:49:03.840
So twenty nine, I would say, don't get married again unnecessary,

1082
00:49:04.719 --> 00:49:08.800
and spend more time with your kid. I mean, I know,

1083
00:49:08.920 --> 00:49:11.519
you know, it's like, I mean, I I miss him,

1084
00:49:11.800 --> 00:49:15.280
even though he lives eight minutes away, but I try

1085
00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:17.559
to let him have his own life. But spend as

1086
00:49:17.639 --> 00:49:19.920
much time with your with your family as you can,

1087
00:49:20.239 --> 00:49:22.400
you know. I my mom. The some of the biggest

1088
00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:25.079
regrets that I had with my mom is that not

1089
00:49:25.119 --> 00:49:28.559
spending enough time with her because she moved to moved

1090
00:49:28.599 --> 00:49:30.880
to Guyserville. She was living on a vineyard in a beautiful

1091
00:49:30.880 --> 00:49:32.239
place and it was great to see there, but I

1092
00:49:32.280 --> 00:49:34.880
was like too involved in my life to actually take

1093
00:49:34.920 --> 00:49:37.039
the time to spend with her, to spend with her,

1094
00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:38.639
and she'd say, well, you know, what do you want

1095
00:49:38.719 --> 00:49:40.440
And I'd say she I'd ask her, what do you

1096
00:49:40.519 --> 00:49:43.079
She's I just want to have time with you. I

1097
00:49:43.199 --> 00:49:47.960
just want time, and I just I selfishly did not

1098
00:49:48.039 --> 00:49:50.559
give that to her, and I read that's that's really

1099
00:49:50.559 --> 00:49:52.079
what I would just say, you know, spend as much

1100
00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:54.599
time with your parents and I and I do that

1101
00:49:54.679 --> 00:49:56.079
now with my friends and I have a lot of

1102
00:49:56.119 --> 00:49:58.519
younger friends too. We just spend as much time with again,

1103
00:49:58.559 --> 00:49:59.960
you know, you know, you know, I know that You're

1104
00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:03.000
mom is making you crazy. Spend time with her now

1105
00:50:03.000 --> 00:50:05.599
because you are going to miss her, and take advantage

1106
00:50:05.599 --> 00:50:08.840
of the time that you have for my for my

1107
00:50:08.880 --> 00:50:10.480
son and I. We have a you know, we don't.

1108
00:50:10.639 --> 00:50:12.440
It's like we all have our stuff. We don't we

1109
00:50:12.480 --> 00:50:15.320
have enough stuff. We do. We do experiences, not stuff,

1110
00:50:15.920 --> 00:50:19.039
So our gifts are experiences and you know, to spend

1111
00:50:19.039 --> 00:50:22.440
together and do stuff together. So it's kind of like,

1112
00:50:22.559 --> 00:50:25.239
you know, go with go with more experiences not stuff.

1113
00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:26.320
I do that.

1114
00:50:26.400 --> 00:50:28.599
Yeah, I'm the same way. I love the holidays, but

1115
00:50:28.760 --> 00:50:30.800
not I don't want to I don't need more stuff.

1116
00:50:30.880 --> 00:50:35.239
It's to spend the time together exactly that meal, hang out,

1117
00:50:35.440 --> 00:50:38.760
do whatever. It's for me. It's not about never been

1118
00:50:38.800 --> 00:50:39.480
about the gifts.

1119
00:50:39.840 --> 00:50:43.280
Yeah, well we it's like, you know, we've got all

1120
00:50:43.280 --> 00:50:44.559
this stuff, but like you know, we do like the

1121
00:50:45.199 --> 00:50:47.480
In fact, what we're doing is we've got One of

1122
00:50:47.519 --> 00:50:50.360
my gifts was the that I gave to the family

1123
00:50:51.280 --> 00:50:53.519
was the escape rooms. We have an escape room, new

1124
00:50:53.639 --> 00:50:55.760
new escape room and samto so we got to get

1125
00:50:55.800 --> 00:51:00.159
that booked and then you know, we'll go to baseball game,

1126
00:51:00.280 --> 00:51:03.320
football games and it's just you know, the experiences that

1127
00:51:03.320 --> 00:51:05.639
we get to get to do together. We just had

1128
00:51:05.639 --> 00:51:07.960
a movie night, family movie night at my son's house.

1129
00:51:08.079 --> 00:51:10.519
Just went in there and you know, had got dinner

1130
00:51:10.559 --> 00:51:15.360
and hung out and watched the Wicked. They rented Wicked,

1131
00:51:15.480 --> 00:51:17.239
so yeah, or bought it. I don't know what they

1132
00:51:17.239 --> 00:51:19.599
did with it, but yeah, so you know that's it.

1133
00:51:19.679 --> 00:51:21.599
Spend more time with the spend more time with the

1134
00:51:21.639 --> 00:51:22.360
people that you love.

1135
00:51:23.280 --> 00:51:27.199
Yes, for my mom, who in June will be ninety eight.

1136
00:51:27.199 --> 00:51:28.960
I nod, that's awesome.

1137
00:51:29.280 --> 00:51:30.280
When so lucky.

1138
00:51:31.239 --> 00:51:34.400
When I turned fifty, I did a trip to Italy

1139
00:51:35.239 --> 00:51:38.760
and so leading up to it because she'd only I know,

1140
00:51:38.800 --> 00:51:41.079
she'd only been to Europe once with some lady friends,

1141
00:51:41.119 --> 00:51:44.239
went to Spain. But I thought'll be fun to take her.

1142
00:51:44.639 --> 00:51:49.159
So I said, hey, Mom, in September, I'm going to

1143
00:51:49.199 --> 00:51:52.039
be going to Italy with some friends.

1144
00:51:52.079 --> 00:51:52.679
Would you want.

1145
00:51:52.840 --> 00:51:56.920
She didn't let me finish the sentence. Yes, So she

1146
00:51:57.119 --> 00:52:00.280
joined the YMCA at that time. She you know, that

1147
00:52:00.360 --> 00:52:01.800
was ten years ago, so she would have been in

1148
00:52:01.840 --> 00:52:04.480
her early eighties, was going to the gym so and

1149
00:52:04.559 --> 00:52:07.239
work on it. Took a swim class and also worked

1150
00:52:07.239 --> 00:52:09.079
on the tread or whatever so she could like get

1151
00:52:09.119 --> 00:52:10.760
her stamming up because she knew she'd be a lot

1152
00:52:10.760 --> 00:52:11.159
of walking.

1153
00:52:11.280 --> 00:52:12.000
That's awesome.

1154
00:52:12.400 --> 00:52:17.000
So that was, you know, twelve twelve years ago, right, Yeah,

1155
00:52:17.239 --> 00:52:20.079
and you know we still because we did. I flew

1156
00:52:20.079 --> 00:52:21.599
into Rome, we did Italy, and then we.

1157
00:52:21.639 --> 00:52:22.480
Also went to Paris.

1158
00:52:22.960 --> 00:52:25.840
So to this day, she you know, she's sitting on

1159
00:52:25.840 --> 00:52:27.679
TV like, oh, we were there, I was there.

1160
00:52:27.880 --> 00:52:28.360
I love.

1161
00:52:28.880 --> 00:52:31.239
It's just really sweet that she still has those memories of,

1162
00:52:31.320 --> 00:52:33.800
you know, twelve years ago, of what she got to

1163
00:52:33.800 --> 00:52:34.880
experience because we did that.

1164
00:52:34.840 --> 00:52:36.840
Together and you got to experience it too.

1165
00:52:37.519 --> 00:52:41.239
Yes, yeah, it was myself, my mother and nine other

1166
00:52:41.280 --> 00:52:42.239
men or eight other.

1167
00:52:42.079 --> 00:52:46.679
Men, eight other men? Well, good enough me. She probably

1168
00:52:46.719 --> 00:52:47.840
been having more fun.

1169
00:52:47.639 --> 00:52:51.000
Then right that she she would get up early, she'd

1170
00:52:51.039 --> 00:52:53.440
get dressed, whatever, and she'd be waiting. You're not gonna

1171
00:52:53.440 --> 00:52:55.400
be waiting on me. She was ready to go wherever

1172
00:52:55.440 --> 00:52:57.199
we're going to go. All right, Well today we're going

1173
00:52:57.199 --> 00:53:00.239
to get in the car and go to Montepucciano or somewhere.

1174
00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:02.639
Though, very nice.

1175
00:53:03.280 --> 00:53:05.280
So, Tanya, how do you do this? How do you

1176
00:53:05.360 --> 00:53:08.679
stay so positive? Is it something that's just in the

1177
00:53:08.679 --> 00:53:10.599
core of you? Is that what it is? Is this

1178
00:53:10.840 --> 00:53:14.760
just coming from the inner so fire packer.

1179
00:53:14.440 --> 00:53:14.840
That you are.

1180
00:53:15.719 --> 00:53:18.480
I you know, I'm a positive person. I'm a spiritual person.

1181
00:53:18.760 --> 00:53:21.920
I have faith in the universe. I wake up every

1182
00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:26.440
day first thing. It's an automatic habit as this, and

1183
00:53:26.599 --> 00:53:30.119
just I don't say it out loud sometimes just think

1184
00:53:30.159 --> 00:53:33.760
it because all the things that I'm grateful for. I'm

1185
00:53:33.760 --> 00:53:35.480
grateful for my health. I'm grateful for that I have

1186
00:53:35.480 --> 00:53:37.519
a roof over my head, and my the job that

1187
00:53:37.559 --> 00:53:40.639
I love, and my family, and my son, and my cat,

1188
00:53:41.559 --> 00:53:46.800
my companion cat, She's always here. But I'm I'm grateful,

1189
00:53:47.280 --> 00:53:50.119
and it is a constant. It's it's all day long.

1190
00:53:50.239 --> 00:53:53.039
I I mean again, I get pissed off very once,

1191
00:53:53.079 --> 00:53:54.599
so well, of course I do, and then I, you know,

1192
00:53:54.639 --> 00:53:56.639
and then I forgive that person for you know, for

1193
00:53:56.679 --> 00:53:59.239
pissing me off, and forgive myself for getting pissed and

1194
00:53:59.599 --> 00:54:01.559
this great that you know that I can do that.

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So it's I mean, it's I truly believe that gratitude

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is a constant effort that you have to make every

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day from the moment you wake up until you go

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to sleep at night, and then when I go to

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00:54:11.519 --> 00:54:13.559
bed at night. But when I'm you know, when I'm

1200
00:54:13.559 --> 00:54:15.000
dozing up, I'm like, you know, oh, I had a

1201
00:54:15.159 --> 00:54:17.039
you know, I had a really great day, and I

1202
00:54:17.199 --> 00:54:19.119
think of all the winds that I had and you know,

1203
00:54:19.239 --> 00:54:22.239
the things that were successful at And it's just a

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00:54:22.320 --> 00:54:25.000
habit that I have that I do. It comes automatically.

1205
00:54:25.000 --> 00:54:26.519
I don't even have to say, oh, why, Tony, you

1206
00:54:26.599 --> 00:54:30.280
need to do this. It's a state of being is gratitude,

1207
00:54:30.320 --> 00:54:34.159
and it really is truly, truly a way to, you know,

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00:54:34.280 --> 00:54:38.000
to to keep on bringing joy and magic into your life.

1209
00:54:38.280 --> 00:54:40.400
It's because once you see it, you know, you'll see

1210
00:54:40.440 --> 00:54:43.840
more and more and more. There's a domino effect with gratitude.

1211
00:54:43.920 --> 00:54:46.440
And I will say that with with all the faith

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00:54:46.480 --> 00:54:48.760
in the world, that is the damn truth. Gratitude is

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00:54:48.960 --> 00:54:49.320
the key.

1214
00:54:50.480 --> 00:54:50.760
Wow.

1215
00:54:51.239 --> 00:54:53.519
And Don and I were talking before you join us

1216
00:54:53.559 --> 00:54:57.679
about having a support system because there's a study that

1217
00:54:57.719 --> 00:55:00.679
came out and they said people that live alone or

1218
00:55:01.400 --> 00:55:04.239
dining alone or tend to be you know, lonely or

1219
00:55:04.320 --> 00:55:07.360
less happy than other people, uh, if they don't have

1220
00:55:07.400 --> 00:55:10.559
a support group. And sounds like you have an amazing

1221
00:55:10.599 --> 00:55:14.559
support group. Absolutely on those times where maybe you're feeling

1222
00:55:14.559 --> 00:55:17.039
a little down, they can pick you back up and

1223
00:55:17.039 --> 00:55:18.159
then you do the same to them.

1224
00:55:18.480 --> 00:55:21.440
Absolutely. And I think I probably was on the phone.

1225
00:55:21.480 --> 00:55:25.239
I probably maybe probably an hour yesterday forty five minute

1226
00:55:25.280 --> 00:55:28.400
hour and forty five minutes with just talking different people.

1227
00:55:28.440 --> 00:55:31.880
You know. It's like my cousin called me, and my

1228
00:55:31.920 --> 00:55:33.480
other girlfriends could be like, you know, you know we

1229
00:55:33.599 --> 00:55:36.000
just chatted and you know we had these long conversations

1230
00:55:36.480 --> 00:55:40.360
and you know, inspiring each other. Well, and I didn't

1231
00:55:40.360 --> 00:55:42.960
have aything go. I'm like, I've got everyone lives vicariously

1232
00:55:43.039 --> 00:55:46.679
through me. I have fun.

1233
00:55:47.960 --> 00:55:51.880
Well, you're you're that positive spark that absolutely turned to

1234
00:55:52.320 --> 00:55:54.239
if they're having an off day.

1235
00:55:54.559 --> 00:55:58.159
No pity parties, no pitty parties in my car. We

1236
00:55:58.719 --> 00:56:02.840
I really do. I'm that I'm everybody's person and I

1237
00:56:02.880 --> 00:56:05.480
have you know, my people too, my friend Pauline, you know, she'll.

1238
00:56:07.159 --> 00:56:09.199
I mean it's rare. I don't have any I mean,

1239
00:56:09.199 --> 00:56:12.840
I really really rarely have any downtime again, because I'm

1240
00:56:12.880 --> 00:56:15.239
self inspiring. I'm you know, I've got gratitude. And when

1241
00:56:15.280 --> 00:56:19.039
you have that, I think that's it. I think that

1242
00:56:19.039 --> 00:56:21.320
that is the key. I found the key.

1243
00:56:22.840 --> 00:56:24.039
And there's no stopping you.

1244
00:56:24.199 --> 00:56:27.559
There's no stopping me. Yeah, I'm like, I yeah, no

1245
00:56:27.639 --> 00:56:30.920
pity parties over here. I mean I've been, I'd like

1246
00:56:30.960 --> 00:56:33.880
I've been. I spent so many times in a freaking cast.

1247
00:56:34.360 --> 00:56:37.679
I just recently took a flying leap and sprained both

1248
00:56:37.760 --> 00:56:44.280
my wrists, got a big fat lip, and I it's like, okay,

1249
00:56:45.119 --> 00:56:47.719
thank you universe for slowing my ass down a.

1250
00:56:49.360 --> 00:56:53.920
Roller or walking across the damn stop.

1251
00:56:54.320 --> 00:56:56.760
I only had two glasses of wine. I was following it,

1252
00:56:57.599 --> 00:57:01.480
following a young man, and I just looked up for

1253
00:57:01.519 --> 00:57:03.639
one second. I have a you know, And I looked

1254
00:57:03.719 --> 00:57:06.400
up and I had it was an optical illusion. I

1255
00:57:06.400 --> 00:57:08.039
thought I had another step I just walked into the

1256
00:57:08.039 --> 00:57:11.960
curb and flew so my watch went off. You know,

1257
00:57:12.079 --> 00:57:14.840
you had a hard fall and had a fat lip.

1258
00:57:14.880 --> 00:57:17.159
I had to travel San Diego with a fat lip

1259
00:57:17.280 --> 00:57:20.199
and two sprained frists. This one's was the worst one

1260
00:57:20.239 --> 00:57:22.280
that this one was. You know, I didn't I did

1261
00:57:22.360 --> 00:57:23.880
pretty good with this. I just actually just took the

1262
00:57:23.880 --> 00:57:28.119
brace off this this week. I'll wear it today just

1263
00:57:28.199 --> 00:57:29.639
you know, because I'll be doing a lot of this.

1264
00:57:29.960 --> 00:57:31.760
But yeah, you know, but shit happens. But it didn't.

1265
00:57:31.760 --> 00:57:34.840
But I didn't. I did not have a pity party.

1266
00:57:35.159 --> 00:57:37.440
I decided I'm gonna laugh it up. I you know,

1267
00:57:37.599 --> 00:57:39.800
have faith in the universe that someone's there telling me

1268
00:57:39.800 --> 00:57:41.960
to do something. I didn't break any of my teeth.

1269
00:57:42.119 --> 00:57:44.000
Very grateful for that. You know. It was like I

1270
00:57:44.159 --> 00:57:47.280
found all of the joy that I could find out

1271
00:57:47.320 --> 00:57:52.480
of this stupid, stupid thing that I did. And you know,

1272
00:57:52.599 --> 00:57:54.159
and I know, I have a say that I have

1273
00:57:54.199 --> 00:57:56.679
to watch every step I take because every step you

1274
00:57:56.679 --> 00:57:59.239
take affects the rest of your life. And only because

1275
00:57:59.239 --> 00:58:00.960
I have a tendency to step, you know, turn my

1276
00:58:00.960 --> 00:58:02.760
ankle and break it. You know, you know it'll be okay.

1277
00:58:02.760 --> 00:58:04.199
Now I'm gonna be in a cast for the next

1278
00:58:04.199 --> 00:58:07.840
eight weeks or whatever. So yeah, so I just found

1279
00:58:07.840 --> 00:58:11.000
the found the funny part about it, and I told

1280
00:58:11.000 --> 00:58:14.559
everybody the story is like, oh my god. And you know,

1281
00:58:14.599 --> 00:58:16.119
I think the only person that was mad at me

1282
00:58:16.239 --> 00:58:18.159
was the er doctor for not coming in right away.

1283
00:58:18.199 --> 00:58:19.119
But fucking.

1284
00:58:21.960 --> 00:58:25.800
Well, Tanya, thank you so much. This has been amazing.

1285
00:58:25.920 --> 00:58:28.280
I'm so glad we caught up to you again.

1286
00:58:28.440 --> 00:58:29.920
And yeah, well I'm.

1287
00:58:29.760 --> 00:58:31.440
Waiting for an invitation to Palm Springs.

1288
00:58:32.119 --> 00:58:36.280
I have fine, but Gary, any more questions for Tanya

1289
00:58:36.320 --> 00:58:38.360
before we No, I think we're good.

1290
00:58:38.519 --> 00:58:39.960
Okay, when are you gonna complain? Bingo?

1291
00:58:41.920 --> 00:58:44.440
I know I need to come back right yes.

1292
00:58:44.679 --> 00:58:48.119
Bingo, Tom Springs actually is what we should figure out. Well, Tanya,

1293
00:58:48.159 --> 00:58:50.639
thank you so much for joining us. It's been amazing.

1294
00:58:50.719 --> 00:58:52.880
I'm so excited just to talk to you because you're

1295
00:58:52.920 --> 00:58:54.039
so full of energy.

1296
00:58:54.280 --> 00:58:55.639
It was great to talk about your mom for a

1297
00:58:55.679 --> 00:58:56.159
few minutes.

1298
00:58:56.199 --> 00:58:59.719
But it's also great to see you because you're obviously living.

1299
00:59:00.039 --> 00:59:01.840
Hate to say this is your best life. I mean,

1300
00:59:01.880 --> 00:59:03.440
you definitely are living your life.

1301
00:59:03.480 --> 00:59:05.039
I am living my best life. I am.

1302
00:59:05.280 --> 00:59:07.119
Yeah. Yeah, we're gonna say it too because we can

1303
00:59:07.119 --> 00:59:07.719
say whatever.

1304
00:59:07.519 --> 00:59:10.280
That it's okay, it's all right. It's the best life,

1305
00:59:10.320 --> 00:59:10.639
damn it.

1306
00:59:11.440 --> 00:59:15.159
Okay, So talking about so that was amazing. She it's

1307
00:59:15.199 --> 00:59:17.559
so nice speaking with Tanya. I love her so much.

1308
00:59:17.599 --> 00:59:20.960
She's got such good energy, doesn't she? She does?

1309
00:59:21.159 --> 00:59:23.880
And I love the comment about having.

1310
00:59:23.719 --> 00:59:24.639
So much gratitude.

1311
00:59:25.079 --> 00:59:28.159
Yes, yes, for you know, definitely a positive thinker.

1312
00:59:29.079 --> 00:59:31.039
We need more of that. Absolutely.

1313
00:59:31.239 --> 00:59:32.360
Yeah.

1314
00:59:32.719 --> 00:59:34.800
So you ready to shut us down? I think so.

1315
00:59:34.840 --> 00:59:37.119
I think we're good. Yeah, I think we're good. Just

1316
00:59:37.400 --> 00:59:40.639
shut me down gently, be kind, I.

1317
00:59:40.599 --> 00:59:45.840
Always do, all right. So that concludes another episode of

1318
00:59:46.000 --> 00:59:48.840
Don and Gary Doing Sixty. You can find us on

1319
00:59:49.239 --> 00:59:54.519
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1320
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new for this season under for Pod, and then of

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01:00:04.159 --> 01:00:09.199
We are available by email Don and Gary Doing sixty

1323
01:00:09.280 --> 01:00:13.039
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1324
01:00:13.039 --> 01:00:15.920
not familiar with yet, but it's called Blue Sky.

1325
01:00:16.440 --> 01:00:20.199
Yes, it's basically another version of Twitter or x, which

1326
01:00:20.239 --> 01:00:23.159
we do not take part in. But we're just getting

1327
01:00:23.159 --> 01:00:24.920
started on there. We just have an entity right now.

1328
01:00:24.920 --> 01:00:27.079
I will start putting some videos on there. You can

1329
01:00:27.079 --> 01:00:30.880
find us at Donna Gary doing sixty bsky dot Social

1330
01:00:31.039 --> 01:00:32.599
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1331
01:00:32.599 --> 01:00:34.599
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01:00:34.639 --> 01:00:36.159
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1333
01:00:36.199 --> 01:00:39.000
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1334
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If you like to.

1335
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1336
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1337
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1338
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1339
01:00:49.199 --> 01:00:53.159
We all need more than that. So until next time, Yes,

1340
01:00:53.760 --> 01:00:57.599
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1341
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1342
01:00:58.719 --> 01:00:59.480
Yes, there's more.

1343
01:00:59.400 --> 01:01:01.760
To come, is more of them, more of season two,

1344
01:01:01.880 --> 01:01:04.039
lots more, talk to you later, very.

1345
01:01:03.920 --> 01:01:06.119
Thank you, okay, have a great day from you two.

1346
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Bye bye,