June 22, 2025

S2E10 TOP 3-Film Dramas & Funny Mamas

S2E10 TOP 3-Film Dramas & Funny Mamas
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Season 2
Welcome back to Don and Gary Doin’ 60—the only podcast where two guys over sixty spend an hour pretending they know what the kids are talking about.

This week’s episode is called Top Dramas and Funny Mamas—because we’re classy, emotional, and just a little bit inappropriate. We’re diving into the movies that made us cry like grown men watching their dog win an Oscar, and the women who’ve made us laugh so
hard we had to check our blood pressure.
We’re talking about comedy queens, cinematic tearjerkers, and maybe a few awkward crushes on The Golden Girls.

So buckle up, buttercup—this ain’t your nephew’s movie podcast. It’s Don and Gary Doin’ 60, where the popcorn’s salty and the comments are even saltier.

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Can you hear me? Yeah? No, I was on it

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and but it told me you could not hear me,

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so suggested I get out and come back in.

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I've got some suggestions for you and involved getting out.

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Yes, but this is Sunday and you need to watch

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your mouth.

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Hey, how's your day going?

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So first I could I'm you know, I'm like, I'm

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trying to make sure that I'm not getting too much glare's.

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It's okay, but.

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It is what it is with the you look good?

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Well, I know that.

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Sorry.

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So do you like my suggest the title?

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Yes? I do. I do like it. I was not,

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I'm not. I'm well prepared, but not incredibly well prepared.

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I bet you we're gonna have a little crossover.

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Oh, I'm sure we will.

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I'm sure well, especially.

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On the the comedians on the films. You know that's

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all subjective.

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But well we'll see about that. But who cares? Right?

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Who cares? We look good? Who cares? I've got my

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editor hat on today because I'm still working through the

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episode I wanted to release it's it's it's a bear

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putting all the good stuff in there that we want.

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Now we want to elevate our production quality. Everything you

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say is important and relevant.

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Well I know that, don.

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Yeah, so no pun intended. I've got this hat on

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today because there's lots to do. But it's fine, it's great.

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Or is it really because of your hair.

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Gonna happen? So? Yeah, do you want to do the terror?

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You want me to do it? How you can do it? Okay?

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And then don't forget. We're gonna do like the three

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points of what we're going to talk about.

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Yes, and then we'll which would be I mean give

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it away, don't give it away? Well, honey, I never

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gave it away. Stop it.

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And then on a sund note, I did have a

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text back and forth on Facebook with Joe and with Kevin.

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Did you see that I did? Okay, So I think

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we might be able to get them to join it.

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If you're listening Kevin and Joe, and guess what you're booked.

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He's coming for you.

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Then we pay very well because we get paid really

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well too.

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Just a quick question, are you recording? I don't see

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a recording thing on Yes. Oh that's weird.

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Okay, so that's what remember, we're going to do that now?

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No yeah, no, no, no, no, But I was like

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we're missing it because I don't see it that you're

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missing it. I don't miss much.

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Okay, well you missed that.

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I got miss this.

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Oh I know you're missed that. Welcome to don and

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Did I already say that?

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No you didn't.

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Okay, well now I'm saying it, and let us.

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As if they don't already.

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Anyway, Sorry, let's jump in. Everything else is good with

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you Besides.

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That, That's Sunday morning, nice weather here in San Francisco.

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As I mentioned earlier, I'm going to try and head out, hopefully,

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I'm gonna try to rally some friends or neighbors and

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go check out the Cherry Blossom Festival in Japantown, which

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I've never been.

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To really, and it's this week. Have you never been

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to that?

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Yeah? Well, you know, there's a lot of festivals that

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go on throughout the year, you know, especially from like

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April to October when this nice weather, and some I've

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been to over the years, some haven't, but this one's

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what I haven't been to, so we gotta go check

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it out.

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You go to Japantown a lot, though, don't you.

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I do. Yeah, they love good restaurants. I like going there.

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I was so recently to see a movie. Actually, it's

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a very very cute movie that just came out. It's

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called A Nice Indian Boy. I think it's called with

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Jonathan Groff, oh okay, and it's very sweet, sweet romantic

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comedy so that just came out, so I saw it

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at the theater in Japantown.

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Okay, well, speaking of movies, yes, we want to start

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with funny mamas or high dramas.

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I think let's start with a cry and end with

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a laugh.

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Okay, that sounds good. And I'm wondering po will have

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a little crossover. I mean, I think we will, but

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I don't know if we will. So what you start

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and go first?

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Sure? So why we came Why we came up with

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this because, well, we both enjoy movies, both enjoy comedies

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as well, funny women, and just to kind of lighten

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it up a little, and because there's everything's going on,

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sometimes it'll cry or it'll laugh to get us through

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the day. So we thought we'd start with top three films,

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and we picked the drama category. And of course you

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can look at any number of lists, because it was

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a little stressful for me because it's like there's hundreds

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of thousands of movies, yes, like our hundreds of thousands

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of fans, yes, And it's hard to pick, you know.

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We initially said top ten, that'd be way too much.

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Said listen, they're done to top three, And I said well,

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let me pull up some of those lists, top fifty,

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top hundred, top whatever. And you know they're all subjective.

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Have you said in the past you look at the

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list and like, really, that's on your list? Well, I

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decided since it's my top three, and you're gonna do

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your top three.

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Yes, right.

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It may not be everyone's cup of tea, but these

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are films that have through the years. I've always been

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one that like kind of my go tos of like

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maybe I need a good cry, right or I need,

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you know, just a good drama.

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Yeah, and there are probably movies that you've seen multiple times.

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Oh yeah, for sure, Yes, yes.

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Pops up on TV. It's like, you know what, nothing else,

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I'll watch it again. So not that this is a factor,

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but two of the three are oscar you know, winning

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films multiple Oscars. The third one didn't win any awards

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of any time, and actually it won a couple like

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Rotten Tomato awards, which is not good. But I appreciate

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it and if it's on I will watch it, and

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I have it on DVD, I'm sure. So in no

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particular order, the first one I pick was Ordinary People,

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Okay in nineteen eighty, so Robert Refford directed it. It was

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his first movie he ever directed, and it starred Donald Sedlnd,

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Mary Tellamore, Timothy Hutton, and Judd Hirsh, all of Well.

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Three of those four were nominated for Academy Awards. Sadly

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Donald Sutherland wasn't, and he was super good in this movie.

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But Mary Tallamore, you know, we're all used to being

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seeing her in her own TV show or Dick Van

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Dyke show comedy Sweet, and this one it was a

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real turn for her. A lot of people refer to

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his character as a bit it was just more, you know.

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If you know the story, a family of four, one

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of the sons accidentally dies in a voting accident, and

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I think when he died, part of her inside died,

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so it you know, it was obviously a traumatic thing

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for her. And Timothy Hutton, who plays the other son

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and the younger brother, he was with his brother on

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this voting trip and so he feels guilt like even

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though it was complete accident, it was a bad storm

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and the and the brother drown. His character felt very

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guilty and hold up with him and a lot of trauma.

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So jud Hirsh plays the psychiatrist, So a lot of

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drama in their sessions, a lot of tension between the

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mother and son, and then the mother and the and

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the father. You know, other supporting actors that were really good.

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So just really good film it one six, let's see

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one four Academy Awards Picture Director, Supporting Actor Timothy Hutton,

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and Adaptive Screenplay. So yeah, so.

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That was my Well, wasn't that one of the first

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times when we saw, Like you said, Mary Tyler Moore

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had always been the funny Mary Richards frum her show,

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and this was one of the first roles she took

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where she turned into a cold, very emotionally strapped person,

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right right, yeah, And it's interesting.

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So it's it's I believe it is based I think

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it is based on the book. And Robert Redford was looking,

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oh yeah, after reading the novel, he had her in

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mind for the role of Beth, despite her roles as

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Laura patri and richardson TV. They he said he made

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a comment where his family, I guess growing up wasn't

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that great, so maybe there was some similarities. But what

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he saw in her for the role, I don't know,

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because that's not a side of her. We've ever seen

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in a role she's played. She's always the nice girl.

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But I thought, I mean, I thought she.

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Was amazing in it, so yeah, for sure.

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Yeah, and then cut some trivia things work well, yeah,

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because when you pull up the film, it's like, oh,

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I didn't know that little trivia. So this kind of

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fun stuff I'll throw in. Originally, Paramount the film company

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wanted Robert Redford for the role of the father Donald

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Southern character, but he said no, he didn't find it

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interesting to him. Bruce durn and Ken Howard also considered.

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It.

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Says it is Timothy Hutton's film debut, which I didn't

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know that, so this was his very first film he

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ever did, really because he did taps on all these others,

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but they came after this, So this was his first

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film role. So when he was first Timothy Hutton was

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first offered the part the role of his parents. Who

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they're considering were Anne Margaret and Anthony Franciosa and other

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actors were you know, you always hear these stories of

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other actors that were considered for the role or auditioned

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for the role, But I don't you should hear about this,

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So Gene Hackman originally was cast as Calvin the Father,

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but dropped out because he couldn't come to a financial agreement.

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Okay.

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Richard Dreyfuss was also considered for the role of a psychiatrist.

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Natalie Wood was considered for the role of Beth the Mother,

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as well as Lee Remick and Margaret. But Redford said

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he when he read it and he knew he wanted

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to direct this. This was the first movie he was directing.

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He had her in mind, and he fought for her and.

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He got what what year was it again, nineteen eighty.

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Nineteen eighty wow? Yeah, So her TV series had ended

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in the lates in like seventy seven, I believe, mm hm,

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So you know, she was still writing a high wave

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and you know, and he just had her in mind.

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And the last bit of trivia on that was that

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Michael J. Fox auditioned for the role of Conrad the Sun,

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Emilio Estevez, Sean pen Ross considered, Rob Low sought the

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role but couldn't get an audition. So it was just

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one of those films that I don't know if they

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knew in advance how well it would do. But you know,

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it's a meati drama and a lot of people were

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trying out for it, So there's a little trivia on that.

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Good job, good job. And it's a shame because I

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believe Donald Sutherden passed away recently.

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Right, I think I said in last year in twenty

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twenty four. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, I just the movie

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itself overall. I mean, it's a downer topic. You can

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never really have a happy ending because it's a drama, right.

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But it's just one of those that just and not

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that I've had that similar experience in my family in

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terms of a trauma like that, But I don't know,

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it's just I and draw in to movies like that

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that you know, whether it make you think, make you

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cry whatever tears have been shed.

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Well, and of course because it was like I think

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Donald Suthan was much more a sympathetic parent than Mary

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Tyler Moore was right, and didn't they didn't they somehow

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blame the death of the Sun on Timothy Hutton.

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down after the other son's death, he felt I think

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that she blamed him even though you know, he didn't

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kill his brother. It was an accident.

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And I think that kind of opened up that in

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that era of the eighties too, because there's actually someone

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who I'm going to mention a couple of times who

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actually did some films in the eighties too where they

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were trying on their dramatic chops as it were. So

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a number of different actors and actresses have taken on

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that role because at the time the eighties was times

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one of those times where they were getting to realistic films,

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realistic in quotes and dramas, and a lot of screenplays

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were being written after short stories or books.

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So yeah, I think, I mean a lot of films

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try and tackle the tough, you know topics, whether suicide

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or you know, someone dying of cancer or whatever it is.

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But I think in the older days maybe they would

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allude to it, and this was maybe one where they

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kind of try to take it on head on. So

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I really love this movie. So okay, that's my first one. Okay,

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you want to throw one.

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Out, sure, I'm going to take. And I don't know

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if this is on your list, but I went with

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Terms of Endearment in nineteen eighty three was amazing. So

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you had it on your list too, Yeah, okay, so

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I'm sure and you know that one is a freaking

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tear jerker if you want a good cry. Oh my gosh.

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Deborah Winger, who I think is an incredible actor, amazing,

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She's such a good actor, and she's kind of definitely

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fallen out of the limelight over the last number of years.

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But I'm just looking at that. For the Academy Awards,

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it was a Best Actress for Shirley McClain, who also

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is in there as James L. Brook once for the

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Best Picture of the Year, Best Directing by James L.

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Brooks again, who's actually a good actor and a great writer.

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And finally, Jack Nicholson won for Best Supporting Actor. No, sorry,

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Best Actor in a Role for nineteen.

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That role was supporting actor.

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Is it supporting?

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Yeah?

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Oh you're right, I'm sorry because I was reading his

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Best Actor in a Supporting Role. Don't don't contradict me.

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This is my movie. But yet we can all relate

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to it, right because you know, it's this that typical

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story where the mom and the daughter are are being

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moms and daughters, so sometimes they get along, sometimes they don't.

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And yes, and Serna McLain definitely does not care for

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the man that he ends up marrying the time, his

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name was Slap But you know, I got to say,

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Shirley McLean let her hair down, literally and figuratively. She

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got to the point because, of course, as we all know,

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her daughter is diagnosed with cancer. I think it's terminal cancer. Yeah,

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and of course that'll be definitely a note for someone

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to start thinking, oh, this is not going to end well,

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which it didn't, but there was that one. I'm sure

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that there are a number of amazing scenes. One of

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the ones that I remember in a very lighthearted way

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is when she actually went to a party with her

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friend in New York and the first thing out of

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their friend's mouth was, so, you have terminal cancer. And

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she goes and she spits out her yay on someone because.

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Because leading up to that lunch, her friend told the

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other friends, look, she's got cancer, but we know we

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don't want to make a big thing about it, so

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like make it part of casual, right, and sasaw she

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thought it'd be casual. So Betsy tells us.

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You have cancer, and that she spits her food.

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It's like, well, that's just putting it out there.

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Yeah. But back to the other side of it, I

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mean and I'm sure you're going to agree with me too.

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There's a couple of pivotal scenes. One of them, of course,

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is where her daughter has to wait to a certain

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time each day to receive her medication for pain, yes,

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for this cancer, and Shirley McLain is basically asking the

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nurses at the nurse's desk to give my daughter the

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medicine or give her the pill because she's waited this long,

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she's in pain. They kind of hesitate, they don't give

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it to her right away, and she literally is screaming,

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banging on it. It's like, someone give my daughter the

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pill because she's been in so much. It's almost making

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me tear up thinking about it because it's just such

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a heart wrenching scene where she gets the nurse to

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finally give her daughter the medication that she needs because

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she's been waiting all night and all day to get

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this medication but probably morphine to relieve her pain, right

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And that was heart wrenching to see it.

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There's a movie that came out about a year or

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too ago called Spoiler Alert, and it was a similar

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storyline where there's it's a gay couple and one of

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them is in the hospital and needs his medication, and

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so partner is out in the in the nurses station

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like it's you know, he basically recras that scene and

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uh and his partner because you know, he just kind

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of made the comments like it's very Shirley McLain iView

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or something, right, So it's a fantasye not even reference

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in another movie that he acted the same way. It's

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like he need to give him his medication at the

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time he needs. Yeah, but no, that was a heart

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wrenching one. It had its comedy moments too, and that

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was part in the Jack Nicholson party. But sometimes there

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were scenes that were you didn't have words to convey

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the message. So, you know, Deborah Winger's character is in

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the hospital and I guess maybe they're away from home

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because they're staying at a hotel while she's in the

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hospital being treated. So cheery McClain is like not all

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glammed up as she normally would be to be out

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and but you know, but she's suffering because of her daughter.

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And she walked back into the hotel and sitting on

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the steps is Jack Nicholson who's come to visit, and

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just that scene with no words, Yeah, I'm going to

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tear up ye right. Yeah, it was. It was really

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really sweet because that's not normally something his character would do, right,

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he was all about getting the getting late right out

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of the dates, right h and and then but he

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came there for her, you know, and they didn't have

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to say any words, so it was it was really

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there's a lot of scenes like that in the movie.

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So there's also the scene where they're we're seeing each

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other after he's been gone for a long time and

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they both grab each other's butts on the steps, give

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or that.

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Right, yes, And and he's been courting her and flirting

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with her and she's like, oh, it's beneath her to

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to even consider it. And she finally agrees to go

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out to lunch with him. Yeah, and it's convertible and

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he takes it out with the top down. Remember her

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hair gets out. That whole scene. It's just it's just

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very funny because she's normally this put together, prim proper

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you know, what will other people think? And he's like,

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he couldn't care. Lets right, he's flirting with other women

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while he's at lunch with her, and he's like, well,

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that's very inappropriate, you know.

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Yes, and doesn't she say like boys who don't mind

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their manners don't get dessert or something like that. Yeah,

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He's like, we're gonna need a lot of booze.

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So I love that mix. You know, there's that heavy,

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heavy drama and you have that you know, funny comedic

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moments or flirtation whatever, that kind of you know, evens

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it out. So overall it was one of my.

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I want to give one more shout out to Debra

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Winger because there is a scene where she's speaking with

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her son and she is definitely very ill and on

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her way out and her son comes in and he

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doesn't want to hug her, and she says, don't do it,

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don't cry, don't show any I'm tearing up just talking

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about this when she's telling don't I don't want to

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just show me that you're upset. I don't want you

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to cry. And the kids ends up bawling and she's crying.

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It's like, oh my god. It's like it's just an

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amazing scene. And again, Deborah Winger such an incredible actor

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who has done many other things, but that's probably, I'm

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going to say, one of her most iconic roles. So yeah,

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so that's both. That was both on our lists, right.

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Right, Okay, say a little more trivia on that one. Sure.

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So.

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Sissy Spacek was originally scheduled to play the Deborah Winger role.

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Jodie Foster turned it down because she was going to

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Yale at the time and couldn't take time off. Real

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life mother daughter actresses Janet Lee and Jamie Lee Curtis

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were considered for the roles. Louise Fletcher was also considered

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for the role of Aurora the mother. Kim Basinger was

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originally offered the role of Patsy, who's Deborah's best friend

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in the movie, but turned it down because of another

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movie role. What to say So Jack Nicholson's character the

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Astronaut doesn't appear in the novel, which is a space

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on the novel it says the part was created for

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Bert Reynolds, but he was already committed to another film,

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so tended to James Garner. Garner quartered with the director

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over differing interpretations. The part then went to Harrison Ford,

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who turned it down because he didn't like the age

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difference between himself and Shirley McClain. Paul Newman turned it down.

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Wow.

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So then finally went to Jack Nicholson.

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Wow, who I think did it quite well?

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Oh yeah, but I mean he was like six in

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line or whatever.

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It's like wow wow.

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And then you may not remember this, but they made

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a sequel to this movie. So this movie came out

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in nineteen eighty three, in nineteen ninety six, so, but

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thirteen years later they did a sequel called The Evening Star, Oh,

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where Deborah Winger's three kids are all grown up and

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they're probably still as messed up as ever. So Jack

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Nicholson and Shirley mclainber prize that rolls. They were the

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only ones from the original film. Okay, but it didn't

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do that well in terms of the critics stuff. I

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mean I saw it, I don't remember it. Yeah, and

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they say, interesting, the three characters who played the kids,

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as you know in the Young in the first film

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were old enough they could have played the same character again,

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but they they won with other actors. Okay, okay, so

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a little trivia on that.

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Good job. That was good in that. Of course, Now

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I have to rewatch that one. It's been a long time. Yeah,

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So what's your next one?

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So this is my third one, and again it's not

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one that went on any list, and it's it's like

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a glorified Hallmark movie, which is you know, I mean

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that shouldn't be taken as a as a.

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No Hallmark got me through COVID, Are you kidding?

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Yeah? No, because I love a good Hallmark movie. So

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it's called Message in a Bottle from nineteen ninety nine.

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It stars Kevin Costner yes, and Robin Wright yes, and

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Paul Newman plays his father. I forgot about that movie,

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and then a couple other supporting actors who are really

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good in it, John Savage and Ilana Duggle. So it

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didn't win any nominations any awards. So takes place where

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Robin Wright is a writer for a newspaper in Chicago.

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Kevin Costner lives in like Maine area, and he's a shipbuilder,

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and the Message in the Bottle refers to the fact

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that his wife died and he, you know, couldn't deal

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with her death, so when he did, he would write

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letters to her and he'd put him in a bottle,

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and then when he's out sailing, he would throw out

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in the ocean. And one of those bottles turned up

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in Chicago. Okay, and they turned it, and then Robin

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Wright was given the letter, and she's sown triagued by it.

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She wanted to find out more like what caused this

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man to wanting this person to do this, So through

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investigations she could narrow down where it came from, who

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did it? She met him and ended up falling in

467
00:23:54.480 --> 00:24:01.160
love with him.

468
00:23:56.160 --> 00:23:56.240
And.

469
00:23:58.039 --> 00:24:00.240
And you know, the end of the movie, A'm not

470
00:24:00.240 --> 00:24:04.279
gonna give but it it's a tear jerker, okay. Paul

471
00:24:04.359 --> 00:24:08.559
Newman is amazing in it, okay, and his relationship with

472
00:24:08.599 --> 00:24:11.880
his son is again a little bit of you know,

473
00:24:12.160 --> 00:24:16.839
touch and go, but their scenes together are amazing. And

474
00:24:16.960 --> 00:24:19.480
I really enjoyed the movie. You know, someone considered it

475
00:24:19.480 --> 00:24:22.799
a chick flick or whatever, but I'm gonna admit it.

476
00:24:22.920 --> 00:24:24.039
I love a good chick flick.

477
00:24:24.240 --> 00:24:25.839
Yes, but you know what, I'm sure a bunch of

478
00:24:25.839 --> 00:24:29.440
guys have seen that movie and tear up just the same. Yeah,

479
00:24:29.640 --> 00:24:31.240
just the same. Yeah.

480
00:24:31.279 --> 00:24:32.720
So how do you remember seeing that?

481
00:24:32.799 --> 00:24:35.359
I do remember it. I forgot that Robin Wright was

482
00:24:35.359 --> 00:24:37.880
in it, who also is another incredible actor. He's done

483
00:24:37.880 --> 00:24:39.799
such a great job. I loved her on House of Cards.

484
00:24:39.799 --> 00:24:43.640
She's done so many good, good things. Kevin Costner. Actually,

485
00:24:43.680 --> 00:24:46.119
you know he's been doing He's been on Yellowstone recently,

486
00:24:46.160 --> 00:24:49.599
which is getting a lot of accolades. I don't recall

487
00:24:49.680 --> 00:24:51.400
the movie as much as well as you do, but

488
00:24:51.440 --> 00:24:54.000
I do recall seeing it. There was nothing to do

489
00:24:54.039 --> 00:24:57.519
with dragonflies in that one, was there. No, Okay, that's

490
00:24:57.519 --> 00:24:59.920
a different movie. Sorry, that's a different costume movie.

491
00:25:00.279 --> 00:25:01.640
Yeah.

492
00:25:02.000 --> 00:25:04.400
It was also good in the Bodyguard, so we still

493
00:25:04.400 --> 00:25:04.640
love it.

494
00:25:04.640 --> 00:25:07.359
The Bodyguard and then Field of Dreams.

495
00:25:07.680 --> 00:25:09.720
Yes, yes, that.

496
00:25:09.960 --> 00:25:11.440
Is another one of those that you know, it was

497
00:25:11.440 --> 00:25:14.000
so hard to narrow down to three.

498
00:25:14.680 --> 00:25:16.359
We're gonna have to do another episode of this, like

499
00:25:16.400 --> 00:25:19.640
b side movies like the People that we probably like

500
00:25:19.680 --> 00:25:21.720
ourselves that no one's ever heard of, So maybe that

501
00:25:21.759 --> 00:25:25.480
would be for another episode. Okay, So anything else on

502
00:25:25.519 --> 00:25:26.079
that one.

503
00:25:27.880 --> 00:25:29.279
I didn't have too much trivia on that. Again, it

504
00:25:29.279 --> 00:25:31.000
didn't win a lot of it didn't win any awards.

505
00:25:31.039 --> 00:25:35.039
But yeah, so I don't know who else was considered

506
00:25:35.119 --> 00:25:38.240
for the roles or anything like that. But but that's so

507
00:25:38.279 --> 00:25:40.599
those are my three so ordinary people. Terms of endearment

508
00:25:40.680 --> 00:25:44.319
and message in the bottle. So you mentioned terms of endearment,

509
00:25:45.079 --> 00:25:48.400
so well, I I have two, but I kind of.

510
00:25:48.440 --> 00:25:50.359
I was vacillating between the two. That's a big word.

511
00:25:50.400 --> 00:25:57.279
I'll explain to you what it means later. Vacillating Like, okay.

512
00:25:56.920 --> 00:26:00.359
It's Family's one of my other favorite words, provocative, But

513
00:26:00.640 --> 00:26:01.000
go on.

514
00:26:03.319 --> 00:26:06.519
So this one is one that I really enjoyed quite about.

515
00:26:06.559 --> 00:26:10.319
It's The Shawshank Redemption, okay, and it is kind of.

516
00:26:10.400 --> 00:26:13.079
It is a drama, as you know, it came out

517
00:26:13.079 --> 00:26:15.720
in nineteen ninety four with Tim Robbins and Morgan Freeman,

518
00:26:16.000 --> 00:26:17.720
and basically, as we all know, the premise of the

519
00:26:17.759 --> 00:26:20.920
show is that the banker was unjustly convicted of a crime,

520
00:26:21.039 --> 00:26:25.720
goes to a prison and spends a time there actually

521
00:26:25.759 --> 00:26:28.559
making friends with and getting to know people inside of

522
00:26:28.559 --> 00:26:31.960
the prison, and eventually finds a way to escape that

523
00:26:32.039 --> 00:26:36.920
prison after basically using a knife or a spoon to

524
00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:41.559
carve behind different posters of his wall, which changed generationally

525
00:26:41.559 --> 00:26:44.559
through the years. So it starts with I don't know

526
00:26:44.640 --> 00:26:47.559
so like Rita Hayworth. Then it turns into wrect hell Welch,

527
00:26:47.599 --> 00:26:50.240
and then it turns into Farah fawcet. So eventually, what's

528
00:26:50.279 --> 00:26:54.319
amazing about this show and what's really I guess pointing

529
00:26:54.359 --> 00:26:56.960
about it is that it's narrated by Morgan Freeman overall,

530
00:26:57.200 --> 00:27:00.200
and he talks about what a good man this Tim

531
00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:03.119
Robbin's character plays, because he actually does do a lot

532
00:27:03.160 --> 00:27:05.960
of good and helps out like the accounting for the

533
00:27:06.680 --> 00:27:09.039
warden in the prison who ends up to be crooked

534
00:27:09.039 --> 00:27:11.920
and dirty and eventually what he wants though and does

535
00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:16.400
do by basically carving out sand or concrete and putting

536
00:27:16.400 --> 00:27:18.319
it in his pant going out to the yard and

537
00:27:18.400 --> 00:27:21.720
jumping it over years and years and years and years

538
00:27:21.720 --> 00:27:25.000
and years. And one of the things that comes out

539
00:27:25.039 --> 00:27:26.559
that's kind of the dramatic side of it is that

540
00:27:26.559 --> 00:27:30.720
Morgan Freeman is eventually released from prison and he finds

541
00:27:30.720 --> 00:27:34.000
that he is having a very hard time being outside

542
00:27:34.000 --> 00:27:37.640
of prison trying to get back into society. He eventually

543
00:27:37.839 --> 00:27:40.039
wants to go back to prison, which I believe he

544
00:27:40.079 --> 00:27:44.880
does at the very end because oh, I'm sorry, that's

545
00:27:44.880 --> 00:27:46.960
not right. He gets out of penism, but he struggles

546
00:27:46.960 --> 00:27:49.160
a great deal with being outside of the routines and

547
00:27:49.200 --> 00:27:53.759
the parameters and basically the walls of prison, and he

548
00:27:53.799 --> 00:27:55.720
comes back in. The wonderful thing is that they do

549
00:27:55.839 --> 00:28:00.000
show a very emotional scene where they explain or illustrate

550
00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:04.720
how Tim Robbins's character actually eventually gets out, goes through

551
00:28:04.759 --> 00:28:08.359
three miles of sewage pipes to get out, and eventually

552
00:28:08.759 --> 00:28:11.559
he leaves a box with money in it for Morgan

553
00:28:11.599 --> 00:28:14.799
Freeman buried under a tree. Oh wow, do you remember

554
00:28:14.839 --> 00:28:15.440
this movie?

555
00:28:15.559 --> 00:28:17.519
I did see it, but in so long ago. I'm

556
00:28:17.559 --> 00:28:19.039
all I remember. Is a prison drama.

557
00:28:19.400 --> 00:28:22.839
Yeah, I couldn't tell you. It's a very touching show

558
00:28:22.880 --> 00:28:25.359
because at the very end, as we all know, Morgan

559
00:28:25.400 --> 00:28:28.359
Freeman actually gets to where Tim Robbins is on a

560
00:28:28.400 --> 00:28:31.559
beach fixing a boat, and they get back together again

561
00:28:31.640 --> 00:28:34.920
as friends outside of prison. After Tim Robbins escapes and

562
00:28:34.920 --> 00:28:39.720
Morgan Freeman basically leaves jail, and I even, I'm gonna

563
00:28:39.759 --> 00:28:41.640
go on a lemon. Say it's a Stephen King novel

564
00:28:41.759 --> 00:28:44.319
or novella, so I will double check that. Let me

565
00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:46.519
check that right now, you talk, you do that?

566
00:28:47.039 --> 00:28:49.039
No, I guess I did see it in the theater

567
00:28:49.319 --> 00:28:52.720
many years ago. Yes, because it was one of the

568
00:28:52.839 --> 00:28:55.519
you know, highly praised movies at the time. But I yeah,

569
00:28:55.559 --> 00:28:57.720
I couldn't tell you other than it was a prison drama.

570
00:28:57.799 --> 00:28:59.880
Couldn't tell any details.

571
00:29:01.000 --> 00:29:04.279
It is a Stephen King book. Oh yes, so he's

572
00:29:04.279 --> 00:29:06.720
done things like The Green Mile and this one, so

573
00:29:07.079 --> 00:29:09.000
that would definitely be a book I would consider reading.

574
00:29:09.519 --> 00:29:11.480
What Isn't Stephen King associated more?

575
00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:16.920
Would like horror, absolutely, but he has more of a

576
00:29:16.960 --> 00:29:20.400
it's more of almost a fable that he's telling in

577
00:29:20.720 --> 00:29:22.599
a way. But again, it's a very touching film. I

578
00:29:22.599 --> 00:29:24.200
loved it. It was a great thing. It came out

579
00:29:24.240 --> 00:29:29.599
in I say, nineteen ninety four, okay, yeah, and let's

580
00:29:29.640 --> 00:29:32.720
see do you have men a trivia on it? It

581
00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:35.359
did not win any Academy Awards, but it was nominated

582
00:29:35.400 --> 00:29:39.680
for Best Picture, Best Actor for Morgan Freeman David Screenplay,

583
00:29:40.400 --> 00:29:44.119
but it didn't win because basically, Forrest Gump was actually

584
00:29:44.160 --> 00:29:46.359
happening the same year, and Forrest Gump teared up that year,

585
00:29:46.440 --> 00:29:47.880
right right, right, yeah, thing up that year.

586
00:29:47.920 --> 00:29:51.359
So yeah, but it is sad when you, you know,

587
00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:53.480
not the Cademy Awards is the be all end all,

588
00:29:53.519 --> 00:29:55.920
But there's films like I remember The Color Purple was

589
00:29:55.960 --> 00:29:59.240
that for like eleven or thirteen nomination didn't win anything.

590
00:29:59.240 --> 00:30:02.079
Nope, which is just mind boggling to me.

591
00:30:02.559 --> 00:30:08.599
Another drama highly regarded, which was one that I considered

592
00:30:08.759 --> 00:30:13.200
my list. Do you remember it was Shirley McClain and

593
00:30:13.240 --> 00:30:14.880
Anne Bancroft the turning point.

594
00:30:14.960 --> 00:30:19.039
Oh absolutely, wasn't that another one of those eighties genre films, right?

595
00:30:19.559 --> 00:30:24.880
I mean, amazing film center around ballet. They're both ballets

596
00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:29.839
in the dancers, but their lives turned took different turns.

597
00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:32.000
But it's one of those that it was not for

598
00:30:32.039 --> 00:30:34.279
like eleven nominations and didn't win anything.

599
00:30:34.599 --> 00:30:37.440
Yeah, wasn't Barishnikov in that one?

600
00:30:37.559 --> 00:30:38.240
He was was?

601
00:30:38.319 --> 00:30:41.039
Yes, I remember that film. That was a great film.

602
00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:43.200
One thing that comes to mind in those times that

603
00:30:43.200 --> 00:30:45.400
we'll talk about this where you get to the funny mamas.

604
00:30:46.559 --> 00:30:48.759
At one point, Carol Burnett actually did a film with

605
00:30:49.359 --> 00:30:53.799
Elizabeth Taylor called Between Friends. Okay, remember that one at all.

606
00:30:53.839 --> 00:30:56.960
That's where again, when the genre was it was basically

607
00:30:57.000 --> 00:31:01.319
they were these comedic actresses were taken making serious roles

608
00:31:01.480 --> 00:31:04.200
and it was one of Caroburnette's first serious roles.

609
00:31:04.960 --> 00:31:06.680
So this is the theaters are for TV.

610
00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:09.079
I think it was TV. It was TV.

611
00:31:09.680 --> 00:31:12.359
It rings about, I can't I'm sure I saw it,

612
00:31:12.440 --> 00:31:14.519
I just can't remember what it was about.

613
00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:18.160
Basically, Carol Burnett is a real estate agent. Elizabeth Taylor

614
00:31:18.200 --> 00:31:22.119
is basically Elizabeth Taylor and they become friends. You know,

615
00:31:22.200 --> 00:31:25.079
they didn't think that because there's from such different worlds.

616
00:31:25.119 --> 00:31:28.200
But basically, Elizabeth Taylor drinks too much and takes too

617
00:31:28.200 --> 00:31:33.559
many pills, and Carol Burnett's like a sex addict. Basically, well,

618
00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:36.880
she gets around and they kind of befriend each other

619
00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:38.640
and then they help each other out at the very end.

620
00:31:38.680 --> 00:31:41.160
I think Elizabeth Taylor takes too many pills over acts

621
00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:44.759
and Carol Burnett saves the day. Of course she does, Carol,

622
00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:46.440
but she was also I mean at the time, I

623
00:31:46.519 --> 00:31:48.079
know we're going up down a little hole here, but

624
00:31:48.240 --> 00:31:51.000
I think Carol Burnett was, you know, in awe of

625
00:31:51.079 --> 00:31:53.440
Elizabeth Taylor and was so excited that she got the

626
00:31:53.599 --> 00:31:54.880
opportunity to work with her.

627
00:31:56.160 --> 00:31:58.720
So I'm gonna mention because you mentioned Carol Burnett and

628
00:31:58.759 --> 00:32:01.920
we we mentioned married Teller Moore, I'm gonna a little

629
00:32:02.000 --> 00:32:04.359
gap bridge the gap with that one. That movie is

630
00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:09.519
called Between Friends. There's another movie called that's what you said, right, Okay,

631
00:32:09.880 --> 00:32:12.240
So there's another film that may I initially thought of,

632
00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:17.880
not for this episode, but called just Between Friends.

633
00:32:18.519 --> 00:32:18.799
Okay.

634
00:32:18.880 --> 00:32:23.400
Theater it was Mary Tyler Moore was married to Ted Danson, okay,

635
00:32:24.359 --> 00:32:28.480
and he starts having an affair with Christine Lottie and

636
00:32:28.920 --> 00:32:32.359
I love right, and then on the two ladies meet

637
00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:36.680
somehow and become really good friends and then don't know

638
00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:41.119
that they share the same man. Huh uh, it's it's

639
00:32:41.240 --> 00:32:44.880
it's a really good called just between friends.

640
00:32:46.359 --> 00:32:48.920
Probably, yeah, because I know, like I said this, this

641
00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:52.480
genre movie was really beIN popular and.

642
00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:56.960
Yeah, and and uh it's Sam Watterson, isn't it too,

643
00:32:57.119 --> 00:33:01.960
So that's another good theatrical film. Yeah, And anyway, so yes,

644
00:33:02.039 --> 00:33:04.000
we've go off a little tent, but that's okay, that's okay,

645
00:33:04.079 --> 00:33:06.359
all right. Do you have any did you have any other?

646
00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:09.200
I had one just honorable mentioned and it's kind of

647
00:33:09.400 --> 00:33:10.799
like it's a kind of a drama, but it's a

648
00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:15.160
campy drama. It's all about Eve Wow with Betty Davis

649
00:33:15.400 --> 00:33:20.240
and a little known then Marilyn Monroe and Baxter. It

650
00:33:20.319 --> 00:33:23.440
was nineteen fifty the movie came out. It is a drama,

651
00:33:23.759 --> 00:33:26.720
but it's a narrative drama, not unlike Shawshank Redemption, where

652
00:33:26.759 --> 00:33:30.359
Morgan Freeman over is speaking over but actually there is

653
00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:32.480
a character who is speaking over who is actually the

654
00:33:32.519 --> 00:33:35.680
basically the theater critic. I don't remember his name. I'm sorry,

655
00:33:35.680 --> 00:33:37.960
I don't have it, but he basically narrates the whole thing,

656
00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:42.960
and as you know, the story is, Betty Davis is

657
00:33:43.079 --> 00:33:47.200
this aging actress on Broadway. She has a young girl

658
00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:50.240
that comes in and kind of befriends her or tries

659
00:33:50.319 --> 00:33:54.039
to get in with her as her assistant, unknowingly that

660
00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:57.720
she had an agenda to take advantage of and ultimately

661
00:33:58.319 --> 00:34:01.160
usurp I'll use playing that word to you later with

662
00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:05.799
Bacilla Vacillate and basically comes over and tries to take

663
00:34:05.839 --> 00:34:08.440
over her her part in the roles. Because Betty Davis

664
00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:11.000
is aging, she has a younger boyfriend. But it's a

665
00:34:11.079 --> 00:34:13.639
great story and it's a little campy. There's some great

666
00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:15.880
scenes in it. There's you know, of course, hold on

667
00:34:15.960 --> 00:34:18.000
to your seatbelts, it's going to be a bumpy night

668
00:34:18.119 --> 00:34:21.000
with a martini and dropping right there. Oh yeah, very

669
00:34:21.199 --> 00:34:22.760
iconic stuff in there. But I thought, you know, that's

670
00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:27.480
still it is considered a drama, absolutely, but there's some

671
00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:30.519
really good comedic moments in there too. Yeah.

672
00:34:31.079 --> 00:34:33.239
No, that's why I said when you when I was

673
00:34:33.280 --> 00:34:35.119
trying to figure out and they're down to top three

674
00:34:35.519 --> 00:34:38.599
you started looking at all the great classics, the Casablancas

675
00:34:38.639 --> 00:34:42.880
and the Ames, and you know, gone. I mean, there's

676
00:34:43.079 --> 00:34:45.480
just so many that are it's subjective.

677
00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:47.760
And now let me just throw another curveball at you.

678
00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:50.239
Have you ever heard of the movie Arrival with Amy Adams?

679
00:34:51.239 --> 00:34:54.400
And I do too. She's quite a good act. Again,

680
00:34:54.440 --> 00:34:56.239
we could go down a lot of rabbit holes here.

681
00:34:56.519 --> 00:34:59.239
She's done so many good films also. But the beautiful

682
00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:01.880
thing about this movie, which is basically a science fiction movie,

683
00:35:01.920 --> 00:35:04.159
which you wouldn't think though, is the way the story

684
00:35:04.239 --> 00:35:07.119
is told. Because basically, I'll try and give you this

685
00:35:07.159 --> 00:35:09.519
fifty cent version of it. Aliens come and land on

686
00:35:09.599 --> 00:35:12.480
the planet. They have a different perception of time. In

687
00:35:12.559 --> 00:35:14.760
the movie, the premise is that Amy Adams has a

688
00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:17.920
daughter who has already died, and at the end she

689
00:35:18.079 --> 00:35:20.119
learns the way to actually live your life is to

690
00:35:20.199 --> 00:35:22.360
come back through memories and remember all of the good

691
00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:25.320
things that happened when she had this daughter. So well,

692
00:35:25.400 --> 00:35:27.119
that's a whole other genre, a whole other thing to

693
00:35:27.159 --> 00:35:29.880
go through. But it's really a beautifully well told story,

694
00:35:30.199 --> 00:35:32.960
and it is in some ways very poignant and very dramatic.

695
00:35:33.079 --> 00:35:34.960
So just throw that out there too.

696
00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:38.119
No, yeah, I get yeah. We could go on and

697
00:35:38.199 --> 00:35:38.400
on on.

698
00:35:38.599 --> 00:35:41.079
Yes, And Christine Lottie is a whole episode on itself.

699
00:35:41.239 --> 00:35:44.079
Because I've got movies. We should do b sides because

700
00:35:44.119 --> 00:35:45.599
we're going to talk about that. Christine Lottie was in

701
00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:48.559
a movie with Meg Tilly called Leaving Normal. Have you

702
00:35:48.639 --> 00:35:49.239
ever heard of it?

703
00:35:49.760 --> 00:35:51.639
It sounds familiar, amazing.

704
00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:54.119
It's probably one of my all time favorite movies ever.

705
00:35:55.039 --> 00:35:58.079
And Meg Tilly, you know, she's been around, but you know,

706
00:35:58.199 --> 00:36:00.679
she kind of fell off the forefront. And Christine Lottie

707
00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:03.519
actually has been doing TV but not much. Pull me

708
00:36:03.599 --> 00:36:04.760
off of this because I don't want to go down

709
00:36:04.800 --> 00:36:07.199
to Christine Lotti rabbit hole because I'll be there forever.

710
00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:11.039
Okay, So we're gonna end film dramas, yes, and now

711
00:36:11.079 --> 00:36:12.480
we're going to talk about funny mamas.

712
00:36:12.599 --> 00:36:14.280
Funny mamas. Okay, you go first.

713
00:36:14.639 --> 00:36:17.719
Okay, So we've already mentioned her name a couple times

714
00:36:17.719 --> 00:36:19.960
as Caro Bernette. She was the first one on my

715
00:36:20.079 --> 00:36:23.159
list too, right, I mean you and I grew up

716
00:36:23.199 --> 00:36:25.639
on her so TV, of course, most known for her

717
00:36:25.719 --> 00:36:30.920
own variety series on CBS, which ran from nineteen sixty

718
00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:32.880
seven to nineteen seventy eight.

719
00:36:33.000 --> 00:36:36.199
So I think we bonded on her while her show

720
00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:39.079
was on, when we were watching the show on television

721
00:36:39.159 --> 00:36:41.400
and calling each other and talking about the lines from

722
00:36:41.440 --> 00:36:41.800
that show.

723
00:36:42.159 --> 00:36:45.400
Yeah, I mean, I think because it was well back

724
00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:48.559
then in the fifties and sixties, variety was on TV.

725
00:36:48.800 --> 00:36:51.360
Writy shows was very popular, right because Jackie g Lison

726
00:36:51.400 --> 00:36:54.239
and this everyone had a variety show. She's one of

727
00:36:54.280 --> 00:36:57.199
the first women that was the lead of it right

728
00:36:58.119 --> 00:37:01.400
when the shatter her ensemble characters of Harvey Corman and

729
00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:05.440
Vicki Lawrence and Lyle Wagner and then later Tim Conway. Yes,

730
00:37:06.039 --> 00:37:10.199
but then it was the movie spoofs and the musical numbers,

731
00:37:10.239 --> 00:37:14.440
which and the costumes which like every week they had,

732
00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:19.320
you know, full on blown up musical numbers, dance numbers.

733
00:37:19.440 --> 00:37:24.519
Had an amazing cast of supporting players who were the background.

734
00:37:24.800 --> 00:37:27.079
Did you tell me that Paul Maggie actually made every

735
00:37:27.119 --> 00:37:28.440
single costume for that show?

736
00:37:28.599 --> 00:37:31.519
Yeah? Wow, for all of her shows and then went

737
00:37:31.559 --> 00:37:33.760
on to share shows and other things like that. But so,

738
00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:36.719
I mean, super talented, but it was like quick because

739
00:37:36.760 --> 00:37:41.360
it was every week and for eleven eleven seasons, and

740
00:37:41.480 --> 00:37:44.400
then they had the skits that they would do, and

741
00:37:44.519 --> 00:37:47.840
the movie spoofs and the commercials and musical numbers and

742
00:37:47.880 --> 00:37:50.000
so on. But you know, we all know a lot

743
00:37:50.039 --> 00:37:52.559
of her famous characters, Unice of the Family.

744
00:37:52.440 --> 00:37:54.639
Unice and Mama and classic stuff.

745
00:37:55.320 --> 00:37:58.880
And then she was missus Wiggins with Tim Conway's mister

746
00:37:59.000 --> 00:38:03.559
tad Ball. She was his his secretary, the charwoman, which

747
00:38:03.719 --> 00:38:06.960
was how the show started, you know, the woman with

748
00:38:07.079 --> 00:38:11.519
the mob and the front, the clothes, the famous movies

749
00:38:11.559 --> 00:38:13.400
through so many of them, name but one of which,

750
00:38:13.480 --> 00:38:16.400
of course is Went with the Wind, which was going

751
00:38:16.440 --> 00:38:20.760
on with the Wind, and they had a recurring spoof

752
00:38:20.920 --> 00:38:23.920
of a soap opera and they called it as the

753
00:38:23.960 --> 00:38:30.599
Stomach Turns. Yes, yeah, so just I mean literally they

754
00:38:31.599 --> 00:38:33.440
lived up to the name of variety because there's so

755
00:38:33.599 --> 00:38:37.840
much of it. Yes, And she did the pratfalls and

756
00:38:38.840 --> 00:38:44.079
some of the you know characters. Harvey Korman, especially when

757
00:38:44.119 --> 00:38:46.800
he did his you know, Clark Gable or he dressed

758
00:38:46.880 --> 00:38:49.079
up as the woman and the you know, the whole

759
00:38:49.119 --> 00:38:51.760
body suit, the fat suit and whatever her name was.

760
00:38:51.880 --> 00:38:56.719
I mean, just I mean yeah, so so that was

761
00:38:56.800 --> 00:39:00.559
just a variety show. But then in the seventies, especially

762
00:39:00.559 --> 00:39:03.280
in the seventies and part of the eighties, she did

763
00:39:03.480 --> 00:39:05.840
a branch out in the film. She did several films

764
00:39:06.840 --> 00:39:10.400
Pete and Telly, Front Page A Wedding from Robert Altman,

765
00:39:10.920 --> 00:39:13.000
Big Ensemble one as she played the mother of the bride.

766
00:39:13.840 --> 00:39:17.360
One of my favorites was the Fourth Seasons from nineteen

767
00:39:17.400 --> 00:39:20.000
eighty one with I mean look at this cast. Alan Alda,

768
00:39:20.039 --> 00:39:22.639
who I didn't know, wrote and directed this movie as

769
00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:25.599
well as starred in it as her husband. Rita Moreno

770
00:39:25.679 --> 00:39:29.079
and Jack Weston were another couplen in this movie, and

771
00:39:29.159 --> 00:39:35.639
then Len Carriw and Sandy Dennis were the third couple.

772
00:39:35.960 --> 00:39:39.519
And the premise was that these long time a couple

773
00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:42.960
friends would travel together, so they did four different trips,

774
00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:46.280
one each season. And at some point in the movie,

775
00:39:46.320 --> 00:39:49.360
one of the characters he divorces his wife and starts

776
00:39:50.000 --> 00:39:52.119
ends up marrying a younger woman, so that kind of

777
00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:58.039
brings some drama into the family. But you know, beautiful

778
00:39:58.039 --> 00:39:59.960
scenery and it was one of those that was both

779
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:04.679
comedy and drama. Amazing cast. And I just saw recently

780
00:40:05.280 --> 00:40:08.760
that Netflix This is Now. The movie came out in

781
00:40:08.880 --> 00:40:12.400
nineteen eighty one, right, so forty plus years ago.

782
00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:12.880
Whatever it was.

783
00:40:13.239 --> 00:40:16.639
Netflix is doing a series based on that, and it

784
00:40:16.679 --> 00:40:19.440
is starting right now in May of twenty twenty five,

785
00:40:20.039 --> 00:40:23.480
and the two leads are Tina Fey and Steve Carrell.

786
00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:26.039
Yes, that is gonna be amazing actual.

787
00:40:25.760 --> 00:40:27.440
And that of the three couples, one of them is

788
00:40:27.440 --> 00:40:30.760
a gay couple. So I've seen the trailer of it.

789
00:40:32.039 --> 00:40:34.679
You know, verdict is still out. We'll see how. It's

790
00:40:34.719 --> 00:40:36.639
a good cast, so just see how it plays out.

791
00:40:37.039 --> 00:40:39.159
But it was just interesting that after all these years

792
00:40:39.400 --> 00:40:41.800
they make a movie into that. She was an Annie

793
00:40:41.960 --> 00:40:45.920
the supporting role in that movie, and did some well

794
00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:48.599
acclaimed TV movies, one of which was called Friendly Fire,

795
00:40:48.960 --> 00:40:51.679
where she was the mother of a young guy who

796
00:40:51.760 --> 00:40:54.159
was killed in the war. She got accolades for that.

797
00:40:54.880 --> 00:40:58.400
Done some mini series more recently Palm Royal, which I

798
00:40:58.440 --> 00:40:58.880
didn't see.

799
00:40:59.159 --> 00:41:01.000
Well, here's gonna wait for you to mention that one,

800
00:41:01.039 --> 00:41:03.159
because the best part about that her and that is

801
00:41:03.199 --> 00:41:07.239
basically she sits on a bed like this for eight episodes, doesn't.

802
00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:07.639
Say a word.

803
00:41:08.119 --> 00:41:10.920
Oh she never speaks, not until the end of the

804
00:41:11.719 --> 00:41:14.360
halfway through the series. And it's great because they just

805
00:41:14.440 --> 00:41:16.599
have shots of her in bed like this in a coma.

806
00:41:16.960 --> 00:41:18.960
That's all she does she's lying around for eight episode

807
00:41:19.000 --> 00:41:21.400
or five episodes or something. It's it's it's really good actually,

808
00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:22.280
but then she wakes up.

809
00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:24.800
There was a mini series years ago, and it was

810
00:41:24.840 --> 00:41:27.360
when all the nighttime soaps were very popular, Dynasty and

811
00:41:27.679 --> 00:41:30.079
Falcon Cress and all this. So she was in one

812
00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:33.239
a mini series, a spoof of Falcon Crest. It was

813
00:41:33.360 --> 00:41:38.960
called Fresno. She was a matriarch and the other medic

814
00:41:39.159 --> 00:41:41.760
actor remember, and it was Gregor Harrison. But it was

815
00:41:41.800 --> 00:41:43.440
one of those that you know, at the time, it

816
00:41:43.519 --> 00:41:45.719
was very popular, very funny. So but she's one of

817
00:41:45.760 --> 00:41:51.000
those that is equally comfortable doing comedy and drama. I mean,

818
00:41:51.079 --> 00:41:52.679
she's also a singer known as that.

819
00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:53.079
But she.

820
00:41:54.800 --> 00:41:59.440
Did several variety specials on TV singing with Julie Andrews

821
00:41:59.679 --> 00:42:04.880
and Beverly Sills. Were quite good friends, yeah, very good friends.

822
00:42:05.039 --> 00:42:06.719
And they still are. I mean they're both still alive.

823
00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:08.199
She is.

824
00:42:09.679 --> 00:42:12.599
I think she'll be ninety three, Oh my gosh, really

825
00:42:13.440 --> 00:42:17.880
on her next birthday. Wow, let's see. She has one

826
00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:24.079
for Emmy six wins, twenty three nominations, Golden Globes seven wins,

827
00:42:24.159 --> 00:42:29.320
eighteen nominations. She's been nominated for Tony three times one once,

828
00:42:29.840 --> 00:42:33.559
nominated for Grammy three times one once, So she needs

829
00:42:33.559 --> 00:42:35.360
an oscar to fill out her egot.

830
00:42:35.599 --> 00:42:38.400
Did you mention that she started once upon a mattress?

831
00:42:38.480 --> 00:42:39.199
Did you start there?

832
00:42:39.400 --> 00:42:42.800
That was her first nineteen fifty nine, that was her

833
00:42:42.880 --> 00:42:50.079
first Tony nomination, So she started well, I think everyone

834
00:42:50.159 --> 00:42:52.800
knows the story where she was. Did not grow up

835
00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:55.400
in a rich family, very poor family in Los Angeles.

836
00:42:55.719 --> 00:42:58.280
Her grandmother and she would past time, I've seen a

837
00:42:58.320 --> 00:43:00.000
lot of movies. So she fell in love with Hollywood,

838
00:43:00.960 --> 00:43:04.000
was able to go to UCLA, but then when she

839
00:43:04.320 --> 00:43:08.239
wanted to pursue acting as a career, she felt she

840
00:43:08.280 --> 00:43:09.960
had to be in New York, but couldn't afford it.

841
00:43:10.360 --> 00:43:14.199
So she had performed in some like local party for

842
00:43:15.079 --> 00:43:17.960
a lot of local people, and there were some rich

843
00:43:18.119 --> 00:43:21.559
people there who really appreciate her. So one of the

844
00:43:21.599 --> 00:43:25.199
guys said, I would loan you the money. At that time,

845
00:43:25.239 --> 00:43:27.760
it's like a thousand dollars. They said, yeah, at the

846
00:43:27.840 --> 00:43:31.159
time it was one thousand dollars equivalent to eleven seven

847
00:43:31.280 --> 00:43:33.599
hundred and nine dollars in twenty twenty four. Wow, So

848
00:43:34.320 --> 00:43:36.559
by that time a thousand I was you know, got

849
00:43:36.639 --> 00:43:40.360
you a lot going so and he said the stipulation

850
00:43:40.719 --> 00:43:43.800
was that you could never reveal my name, have to

851
00:43:43.840 --> 00:43:46.719
pay it back within five years, and if you achieve success,

852
00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:49.280
you have to pay it forward. Basically, oh wow, So

853
00:43:49.480 --> 00:43:52.760
she's never revealed his name, she did paying back five

854
00:43:52.840 --> 00:43:56.199
years to the day, and then she has obviously tried

855
00:43:56.239 --> 00:44:00.079
to pay it forward now and help others and in

856
00:44:00.119 --> 00:44:03.199
their career. So I was just really like a success story.

857
00:44:03.280 --> 00:44:07.079
How all that started? But yeah, wow, but yeah, she

858
00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:11.159
started on TV the Gary Moore Show, ended up, you know,

859
00:44:11.280 --> 00:44:14.440
getting more notoriety and going in other variety shows. And

860
00:44:14.480 --> 00:44:16.719
then CBS approached her like, hey, how would you like to,

861
00:44:17.000 --> 00:44:19.880
you know, sign a contract with us? And the contract

862
00:44:19.960 --> 00:44:23.159
stipulated and I don't know if she put this in

863
00:44:23.639 --> 00:44:27.079
or her lawyer put it in, but she had the

864
00:44:27.199 --> 00:44:30.000
right to do whatever she wanted to do. And she

865
00:44:30.119 --> 00:44:32.039
wanted to do a variety show and they're like, no,

866
00:44:32.239 --> 00:44:34.000
we don't really see you because there's a woman, a

867
00:44:34.079 --> 00:44:36.119
woman leading a variety show back in the you know

868
00:44:36.719 --> 00:44:41.920
that time, that's not gonna happen. And the contracts like

869
00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:44.519
she was committed, they had to make X number of

870
00:44:44.599 --> 00:44:47.199
shows and it could be whatever she wanted, and she

871
00:44:47.280 --> 00:44:48.719
wanted to do that as she did it, and then

872
00:44:48.719 --> 00:44:50.360
it ended up running for eleven seasons.

873
00:44:50.559 --> 00:44:51.719
Wow, that's amazing.

874
00:44:52.039 --> 00:44:54.440
Yeah, so that's my first one.

875
00:44:54.480 --> 00:44:55.079
Who's okay?

876
00:44:55.280 --> 00:44:57.079
Well, anything else you want to add to that?

877
00:44:57.800 --> 00:45:00.519
No, I think you covered all of it because we

878
00:45:00.679 --> 00:45:03.599
both adore her and have been following her for years.

879
00:45:03.679 --> 00:45:05.719
I think you and I, as I mentioned before her,

880
00:45:06.400 --> 00:45:08.599
still quote her, still do all of the things from

881
00:45:08.639 --> 00:45:11.159
the show. You know, it went with the wind, what win? Well,

882
00:45:11.199 --> 00:45:14.159
that ain't pretty well, that's pretty good. Didn't answer my

883
00:45:14.280 --> 00:45:17.280
question that kind of stuff. So yeah, I mean missus Wiggans,

884
00:45:17.320 --> 00:45:19.800
we used to. I think we used to do improvs

885
00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:22.079
of those characters, all of her share.

886
00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:24.679
Yeah, did you ever walk into a room with a

887
00:45:25.079 --> 00:45:26.840
curtain rod on your shoulders? No?

888
00:45:27.079 --> 00:45:31.599
But no I didn't, but I wanted to. It's not

889
00:45:31.719 --> 00:45:35.639
too late, So yeah, let's jump into mine real quick,

890
00:45:35.679 --> 00:45:39.039
and she might be on your page too. But I'm

891
00:45:39.079 --> 00:45:41.519
going to mention Madeline Khan as.

892
00:45:41.519 --> 00:45:42.280
Oh no, I didn't.

893
00:45:42.760 --> 00:45:46.880
Did yes? So? Madeline Kahn an amazing actress. We've seen

894
00:45:46.920 --> 00:45:50.000
her in a million different mel Brooks films. She was

895
00:45:50.039 --> 00:45:52.639
in high anxiety, she was in blazing Saddles. She was

896
00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:56.440
in Young Frankenstein. I've tried to imitate her many times

897
00:45:56.599 --> 00:45:59.599
unsuccessfully with you know, talking about how she was tired.

898
00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:04.119
She sically doing a parody of a Marlena Dietrich character

899
00:46:04.239 --> 00:46:08.320
in Blazing Saddles where she's saying, I'm tired everything below

900
00:46:08.360 --> 00:46:10.239
the neck is put. So. Yeah.

901
00:46:13.039 --> 00:46:15.719
She was a supporting character in the Barbara Streiss and

902
00:46:15.800 --> 00:46:20.760
Ryan on Neil movie What's Up, Doc. Yes, she was Neils.

903
00:46:21.320 --> 00:46:32.559
She played his fiance Eunice Burns Burns and Barbara Streiss

904
00:46:33.039 --> 00:46:36.440
takes over her persona the movie thinks she's the real

905
00:46:36.519 --> 00:46:40.079
Unice Burns who's it's And she's amazing in that.

906
00:46:40.159 --> 00:46:43.199
Too, just that little flip hairdo, and yes, my god,

907
00:46:43.239 --> 00:46:44.639
that's actually an excellent film.

908
00:46:44.840 --> 00:46:46.760
What is doing with Howard's rocks?

909
00:46:51.519 --> 00:46:53.480
Yes, And of course you know there's a she did

910
00:46:53.559 --> 00:46:55.519
History in the World part two, I think a part

911
00:46:55.599 --> 00:46:57.519
one or both of them, and she's in there one

912
00:46:57.559 --> 00:47:00.519
of she plays Cleopatra in one of the and she's

913
00:47:00.559 --> 00:47:03.920
basically talking about stop you making my tits fall off. Yeah,

914
00:47:05.280 --> 00:47:07.320
And then there's a ping where they have a bunch

915
00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:11.119
of guards taking off and leaving the room and they're

916
00:47:11.159 --> 00:47:13.000
bouncing and they don't have any underwear on, and she's

917
00:47:13.039 --> 00:47:16.480
watching them bounce away with them. It's like, yeah, I mean,

918
00:47:16.519 --> 00:47:19.559
she's done so many Gosh, you would know the name

919
00:47:19.599 --> 00:47:21.320
of her in High Anxiety, when she wore the Louis

920
00:47:21.400 --> 00:47:24.039
Vuitton's like jumpsuit with a Louis Vuitton.

921
00:47:23.880 --> 00:47:26.559
Cadillac right her outfit mashed car.

922
00:47:26.800 --> 00:47:28.280
Yes, do you remember her name in that one?

923
00:47:28.719 --> 00:47:32.199
I want to say it was Victoria something, but.

924
00:47:32.840 --> 00:47:37.280
Victoria Brisbane that comes that could be it.

925
00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:39.480
I remember it was something she also was on.

926
00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:42.239
She's done a lot of Broadway. She was seeing a

927
00:47:42.280 --> 00:47:44.679
lot of Stephen Sondheim that you can see her on

928
00:47:44.880 --> 00:47:49.079
on YouTube. She was an amazing actress. Unfortunately, she died

929
00:47:49.280 --> 00:47:52.760
in nineteen ninety nine from ovarian cancer, so that was

930
00:47:52.840 --> 00:47:56.119
a huge loss to I can't imagine if, maybe has

931
00:47:56.159 --> 00:47:58.239
she lived longer, what she would still be doing, but

932
00:47:58.360 --> 00:47:59.880
I'm sure it would be amazing.

933
00:48:01.239 --> 00:48:03.559
She met a little trivia about her also, Yeah, for sure.

934
00:48:03.639 --> 00:48:07.679
The singer, Yeah, it was either on women that we

935
00:48:07.800 --> 00:48:10.840
used to listen to back in the day, Melissa Manchester

936
00:48:11.519 --> 00:48:14.360
or Carol may or Seger. She sang back up for

937
00:48:14.440 --> 00:48:15.599
them on some of their songs.

938
00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:19.079
No way. Yeah, oh really, I might have seen her

939
00:48:19.119 --> 00:48:22.840
credits on the CBS film or albums.

940
00:48:23.599 --> 00:48:25.960
I think she and Melissa sang back up on one

941
00:48:26.000 --> 00:48:27.679
of Carrien. Yeah.

942
00:48:28.239 --> 00:48:30.960
She was also in Clue and The Cheap Deteple Yes,

943
00:48:31.159 --> 00:48:33.920
which were great films, and I think all somehow we're

944
00:48:34.039 --> 00:48:36.719
just gravitating towards these films in the eighties, mid eighties,

945
00:48:37.840 --> 00:48:40.639
early nineties, but there were just so many good films

946
00:48:40.719 --> 00:48:44.199
during that era. So yeah, I mean, it's a great

947
00:48:44.239 --> 00:48:46.519
loss that she wasn't around, but she did leave a

948
00:48:46.639 --> 00:48:49.840
legacy of characters, so I.

949
00:48:49.880 --> 00:48:51.599
Didn't think about her. But again, it was one of

950
00:48:51.639 --> 00:48:53.840
those it was hard to narrow down to three, but

951
00:48:54.119 --> 00:48:57.840
she definitely would be in my topless as well. Love Love, Love,

952
00:48:57.920 --> 00:49:03.800
Mathlon conn Who do you have? Lily Tomlin? Oh absolutely

953
00:49:04.920 --> 00:49:08.000
started out, you know, doing stand up, but it's also

954
00:49:08.079 --> 00:49:12.800
a writer, producer. She's actually done some singing too, But

955
00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:16.440
her stand up led to sketch comedy, and then she

956
00:49:16.519 --> 00:49:20.679
started doing characters, which led her to a TV show,

957
00:49:20.719 --> 00:49:23.239
a variety show back in the late sixties early seventies

958
00:49:23.280 --> 00:49:26.360
called Roan and Martin's laugh In Oh God, I remember that,

959
00:49:27.039 --> 00:49:31.119
which ran from sixty nine to seventy three, and from

960
00:49:31.199 --> 00:49:34.239
that show came some of her characters, which she made

961
00:49:34.320 --> 00:49:37.840
super popular. Ernestine, the one who worked for the TV

962
00:49:38.320 --> 00:49:42.360
or the phone company, Edith and the little girl in

963
00:49:42.440 --> 00:49:49.000
the big rocking chair, Judith Beasley kind of tight, tightly

964
00:49:49.119 --> 00:49:52.039
wound woman with a hair van and you know, I

965
00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:56.920
think we're proper. You know, she had other characters. She

966
00:49:57.679 --> 00:50:01.119
did one woman shows on Broadway where she incorporate these characters,

967
00:50:03.119 --> 00:50:08.079
tons of TV appearances The West Wing, Grace and Frankie

968
00:50:08.159 --> 00:50:13.559
on Netflix with Jane Fonda, movies nine to five and Nashville,

969
00:50:13.840 --> 00:50:18.639
and more TV appearances Murphy Brown, Will and Gray Dashman, Housewives.

970
00:50:21.320 --> 00:50:24.920
She's done then. I don't know if they still do them.

971
00:50:24.960 --> 00:50:28.000
But comedians, stand upcomers used to do comedy albums. So

972
00:50:28.679 --> 00:50:30.880
she did one based on a show called Appearing Nightly.

973
00:50:31.440 --> 00:50:33.480
This is a Broadway show that they and I have

974
00:50:33.639 --> 00:50:39.360
that on LP as old I Am. And then I

975
00:50:39.440 --> 00:50:41.719
did another one called The Search for Signs of Intelligent

976
00:50:41.840 --> 00:50:44.440
Life in the Universe. Yes again where she's just playing

977
00:50:44.719 --> 00:50:49.880
multiple characters. Uh, some comedy, some drama, a lot like

978
00:50:49.960 --> 00:50:52.559
Whoopi Goldber back when she started right where it was

979
00:50:52.679 --> 00:50:57.239
character driven and didn't always have to be funny. You

980
00:50:57.360 --> 00:51:00.480
get quite serious, but always with some kind of message,

981
00:51:00.480 --> 00:51:04.639
but not like in your face, right. I remember, not

982
00:51:04.800 --> 00:51:08.719
too long ago, it's been, you know, probably five or

983
00:51:08.800 --> 00:51:14.079
plus years, where she appeared on stage at Berkeley. You

984
00:51:14.199 --> 00:51:17.800
see Berkeley, and it was her one woman's show where

985
00:51:17.800 --> 00:51:20.599
she introduced his characters and lines, and for you and

986
00:51:20.679 --> 00:51:22.840
me it would have been like you, I remember those lines,

987
00:51:22.880 --> 00:51:25.360
so I'm secretly like reciting them with her as she's

988
00:51:25.360 --> 00:51:28.559
saying them right. And I remember going to the restroom

989
00:51:28.559 --> 00:51:30.239
at the end of the show and a couple of

990
00:51:30.280 --> 00:51:33.360
younger guys are like, that's all old material. So I

991
00:51:33.400 --> 00:51:35.400
don't know why, why had you any new material. I'm thinking,

992
00:51:35.639 --> 00:51:38.079
when you go see a singer, you want them to

993
00:51:38.199 --> 00:51:40.320
sing their hits right, and you're e they're going to

994
00:51:40.360 --> 00:51:44.079
inroduce some new songs. But what makes it special for

995
00:51:44.199 --> 00:51:46.360
you is that you remember a lot of their big

996
00:51:46.519 --> 00:51:49.199
hits when they were, you know, at the peak of

997
00:51:49.280 --> 00:51:52.679
their career. So I saw this as an equivalent. I'm like,

998
00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:55.440
she did her greatest hits right in front of us,

999
00:51:55.960 --> 00:51:57.880
and it brought back a lot of special memories. But

1000
00:51:58.000 --> 00:52:01.000
they didn't appreciate that, you know, they're more critical of,

1001
00:52:01.159 --> 00:52:03.039
like I want her new stuff.

1002
00:52:03.360 --> 00:52:04.280
Who cares what they think?

1003
00:52:04.599 --> 00:52:05.280
I know that's true.

1004
00:52:05.400 --> 00:52:08.000
I remember that one bit she did with the Deturgent

1005
00:52:08.039 --> 00:52:11.719
called Girl, Yes, Johnny Isn't yours.

1006
00:52:12.559 --> 00:52:15.679
Yeah, she was a commercial where advertising a lot of

1007
00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:18.679
Returgent and in the process realize her husband isn't having

1008
00:52:18.679 --> 00:52:19.440
an affair.

1009
00:52:19.320 --> 00:52:22.000
Yes, because there's lipstick on his collar and Gurr will

1010
00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:24.320
take that out. And then she says, Johnny isn't yours.

1011
00:52:25.920 --> 00:52:28.519
Oliver water was supper on the table, no responsibility. But

1012
00:52:28.639 --> 00:52:30.119
you want to know something, Billy isn't yours.

1013
00:52:32.480 --> 00:52:35.039
See, this is what happens when we talk about these people.

1014
00:52:35.320 --> 00:52:37.719
We just started ripping them out. So I think that, Yeah,

1015
00:52:37.960 --> 00:52:40.199
and Frankie is it Frankie, Johnny and Johny and Frankie.

1016
00:52:41.000 --> 00:52:44.360
Uh No, Grace, Grace and Frankie.

1017
00:52:44.440 --> 00:52:46.920
Sorry, Johnny and Frankie is a movie. Grace and Franky

1018
00:52:47.079 --> 00:52:49.679
was the series which was an amazing thing, right.

1019
00:52:50.679 --> 00:52:54.039
You remember The premise of that is that she's Lily's

1020
00:52:54.119 --> 00:52:58.000
married to Sam Waterston and Jane fond is married to

1021
00:52:58.039 --> 00:53:01.119
Martin Sheen, and they the two men are lawyers who

1022
00:53:01.159 --> 00:53:04.280
are partners in the same law firm, and they both

1023
00:53:04.360 --> 00:53:08.239
comes were married for years and the first episode is

1024
00:53:08.320 --> 00:53:10.440
where the two couples were having lunch and the two

1025
00:53:10.519 --> 00:53:13.039
men tell them, we're leaving you because we're in love

1026
00:53:13.079 --> 00:53:18.039
with each other. And because of financial circumstances, the two

1027
00:53:18.119 --> 00:53:21.000
ladies have to live together in the beach house that

1028
00:53:21.119 --> 00:53:25.559
the two couples bought together. And you know, Jane Fonda

1029
00:53:25.639 --> 00:53:28.599
is the uptight one and Lily Tomlin's the you know,

1030
00:53:28.719 --> 00:53:32.840
kind of the hippie woman and and easygoing, and it's

1031
00:53:32.960 --> 00:53:36.320
the conflict that starts out with them that ends up,

1032
00:53:36.360 --> 00:53:40.440
you know, growing into really lovely friendship. Yes, it was

1033
00:53:40.559 --> 00:53:44.119
like on for six seasons. I think I saw all

1034
00:53:44.199 --> 00:53:46.920
of them. I did, but it was, Yeah, it was

1035
00:53:46.920 --> 00:53:48.519
good to have, you know, great supporting guys, and the

1036
00:53:48.599 --> 00:53:50.199
two men were, you know, really good in it too,

1037
00:53:50.280 --> 00:53:52.159
So yeah, it was it was. It was a good show.

1038
00:53:52.440 --> 00:53:55.239
And she's been with her longtime partner for a long

1039
00:53:55.360 --> 00:53:55.840
long time.

1040
00:53:56.000 --> 00:54:01.760
Correct, Yes, her Jane Wagner. Yes, it's interesting because they said,

1041
00:54:01.800 --> 00:54:04.360
you know, in Hollywood, everyone knew that they were a couple,

1042
00:54:04.719 --> 00:54:07.079
but they never talked about it. She never has publicly

1043
00:54:07.199 --> 00:54:09.679
come out and said I'm gay, I'm Alissa. She doesn't

1044
00:54:09.719 --> 00:54:12.079
need to she doesn't need to, and good for her

1045
00:54:12.119 --> 00:54:14.159
for not having it. She just like lived her life

1046
00:54:14.760 --> 00:54:18.480
and would never shy away from saying, you know, my

1047
00:54:18.920 --> 00:54:22.920
partner wrote this because Jane Wagner wrote the majority of

1048
00:54:23.159 --> 00:54:28.440
her act of her material and was always their front

1049
00:54:28.440 --> 00:54:31.039
and center, never like shied away or like have her

1050
00:54:31.119 --> 00:54:34.719
go on these fake dates with you know, Hollywood men,

1051
00:54:35.480 --> 00:54:36.400
so that people wouldn't you.

1052
00:54:36.400 --> 00:54:38.800
Know, trying to put a beard on. Right. Yeah.

1053
00:54:39.159 --> 00:54:45.639
I think it says that they eventually got married. Her

1054
00:54:45.679 --> 00:54:48.400
partner now wife, writer Jane Wagner. They met in nineteen

1055
00:54:48.480 --> 00:54:51.880
seventy one. They got married December of twenty thirteen, after

1056
00:54:52.039 --> 00:54:55.519
forty two years together. Wow, So that's not so they've

1057
00:54:55.519 --> 00:55:02.320
been together fifty four years. Wow yeah wow yeah, so

1058
00:55:02.440 --> 00:55:09.360
good for them. She's won seven Emmy's, one Grammy, two Tony's,

1059
00:55:09.400 --> 00:55:12.320
and she was in Oscar nominated for Oscar one time.

1060
00:55:12.360 --> 00:55:15.280
So I thought she was an egot, but she's not.

1061
00:55:15.440 --> 00:55:18.679
She's one oh short of an egot because she is

1062
00:55:18.679 --> 00:55:22.920
an Oscar. Yeah. She got nominated for Nashville Back in

1063
00:55:23.239 --> 00:55:25.760
Whatever in nineteen seventy five. That was her film debut,

1064
00:55:26.199 --> 00:55:31.800
but she hasn't been nominated since then. Other amazing movies.

1065
00:55:31.840 --> 00:55:33.920
Beside Nine to five. All of me was Steve Martin.

1066
00:55:34.119 --> 00:55:39.159
Remember that Big Business with Lily Tomlin. Ye know, she's

1067
00:55:39.199 --> 00:55:41.840
a Lily Toma with Bett Middler excuse me, they played

1068
00:55:42.039 --> 00:55:47.760
it was two sets of twins. I remember that she

1069
00:55:47.880 --> 00:55:50.880
did the incredible shricking woman forgot and then one that

1070
00:55:51.000 --> 00:55:54.159
people kind of pooh poop. But it was her in

1071
00:55:54.320 --> 00:55:57.960
one of her few straight roles with John Travolta called

1072
00:55:58.000 --> 00:55:59.760
Moment to Moment, she's the older.

1073
00:56:00.719 --> 00:56:02.199
I do remember that one.

1074
00:56:02.719 --> 00:56:06.119
Yeah, yeah, but you know I put it on the

1075
00:56:06.199 --> 00:56:09.599
list anyway, So yeah, that's that's that was one of

1076
00:56:09.679 --> 00:56:11.199
my That was my second one who I had on

1077
00:56:11.280 --> 00:56:14.599
my list, And I'm sure my third one is on

1078
00:56:14.679 --> 00:56:16.039
your list. But you who do you have on it?

1079
00:56:16.119 --> 00:56:18.480
Well I'm gonna let you go because I only chose to,

1080
00:56:18.719 --> 00:56:19.760
so you go ahead. Okay.

1081
00:56:20.360 --> 00:56:23.480
Well we've mentioned her a few times. In fact, I

1082
00:56:23.480 --> 00:56:25.559
should have her stamps in front of me. Betty White,

1083
00:56:25.880 --> 00:56:33.119
oh god, of course. Yeah, another pioneer. She started on radio, uh,

1084
00:56:33.400 --> 00:56:38.119
transitioned to TV when it started. She had her own

1085
00:56:38.159 --> 00:56:40.840
TV show called The Betty White Show back in nineteen

1086
00:56:40.880 --> 00:56:44.599
fifty two, ran for a couple of years. She produced

1087
00:56:44.679 --> 00:56:47.239
and starred in her own show, which at that time

1088
00:56:47.400 --> 00:56:51.280
a woman to produce and star in. Uh in the

1089
00:56:51.400 --> 00:56:55.639
in the mid fifties called life was Elizabeth. Tons of

1090
00:56:55.719 --> 00:57:00.280
game shows appearances. She even hosted a game sho show

1091
00:57:00.360 --> 00:57:03.159
for a short time really back in the seventies or something,

1092
00:57:03.480 --> 00:57:05.920
which up until then that was like man's.

1093
00:57:05.880 --> 00:57:07.639
Well didn't her husband host password?

1094
00:57:08.119 --> 00:57:10.639
Yes, and that's where they met in London, so they

1095
00:57:10.679 --> 00:57:13.800
were married for many years until he passed away. She

1096
00:57:13.960 --> 00:57:21.079
never remarried, but when she hosted the game show, she

1097
00:57:21.280 --> 00:57:24.440
was the first woman to ever ever host her own

1098
00:57:24.519 --> 00:57:27.800
game show. That since then, yes, other women have, but

1099
00:57:27.960 --> 00:57:29.559
at that time it just wasn't you know, it was

1100
00:57:29.639 --> 00:57:32.199
all men hosting the shows. They never considered it, but

1101
00:57:32.599 --> 00:57:36.320
she did it. A guest starred on The Calbournet Show,

1102
00:57:37.119 --> 00:57:41.199
part of the Mama's Family. She played Ellen Eunice's sister,

1103
00:57:41.400 --> 00:57:46.800
rich sister, Rich Snoddy's sister, and then when Mama's Family

1104
00:57:46.880 --> 00:57:50.679
spun off to its own TV series, she made appearances

1105
00:57:50.719 --> 00:57:55.880
on that in the same character Boston Legal. A lot

1106
00:57:55.960 --> 00:57:59.920
of supporting roles of course, Sue An Niven's and the

1107
00:58:00.000 --> 00:58:08.559
Mary telling Yeah, the Golden Girls, I mean, oh, God, Yes,

1108
00:58:09.159 --> 00:58:12.719
and then at that point then retired. Then they asked

1109
00:58:12.760 --> 00:58:16.840
her to play I think in one the opening the

1110
00:58:16.960 --> 00:58:19.719
pilot of a show called Hot and Cleveland. Oh God,

1111
00:58:20.280 --> 00:58:22.719
and they ended up keeping her characters, so that ran

1112
00:58:22.800 --> 00:58:29.920
for several seasons. Was super popular. Transition did movies. One

1113
00:58:29.960 --> 00:58:32.480
of my favorite The Proposal with Sandra Bullock and.

1114
00:58:32.880 --> 00:58:34.320
Oh Yes where she starts feeling.

1115
00:58:35.440 --> 00:58:40.079
She played tons of movies those Yes, Oh.

1116
00:58:40.159 --> 00:58:41.800
They're amazing, solo classic.

1117
00:58:42.119 --> 00:58:45.039
There's a clip it's behind the scenes of the Proposal

1118
00:58:45.079 --> 00:58:49.039
where she's sitting in a chair in Ryan Reynold walks

1119
00:58:49.119 --> 00:58:51.960
up to her and she treats him like one of

1120
00:58:52.000 --> 00:58:54.159
the stage chands. I said you, I told you to

1121
00:58:54.199 --> 00:58:57.719
get me a fucking cup of coffee. Actually, Miss White,

1122
00:58:58.079 --> 00:58:59.920
I'm in the movie with you. I play your grand

1123
00:59:00.159 --> 00:59:03.679
son is a movie. Don't give me that. Yeah, she's mouthing.

1124
00:59:04.079 --> 00:59:05.119
It's a really funny scene.

1125
00:59:05.159 --> 00:59:07.159
There's another one I have to mention, an outtake from

1126
00:59:07.440 --> 00:59:09.719
Hot in Cleveland where there's a line when she says

1127
00:59:09.760 --> 00:59:13.360
her bender is over and they say bender over and

1128
00:59:13.480 --> 00:59:16.559
she just loses it. I will try and find the clip.

1129
00:59:16.639 --> 00:59:19.360
It's like bender over and she just cannot say it

1130
00:59:19.760 --> 00:59:20.440
because there's.

1131
00:59:20.360 --> 00:59:23.719
Tons of bloopers from that show. I didn't watch this series, yes,

1132
00:59:24.000 --> 00:59:26.199
but I've said it on YouTube. Tons of bloopers. And

1133
00:59:27.199 --> 00:59:29.440
you know, they were just amazed that at the energy

1134
00:59:29.519 --> 00:59:32.199
that she had, she lived to be ninety nine. She

1135
00:59:32.320 --> 00:59:34.480
was three weeks shy of her hundredth birthday.

1136
00:59:34.639 --> 00:59:35.239
It's amazing.

1137
00:59:35.480 --> 00:59:39.280
She passed away December twenty twenty one. You know, super beloved.

1138
00:59:39.800 --> 00:59:42.800
I don't think anyone had anything bad to say about her.

1139
00:59:43.840 --> 00:59:50.920
Huge animal activist, loved her comedy, did drama that she

1140
00:59:51.039 --> 00:59:53.119
wasn't really known for. But she you know, had some

1141
00:59:54.400 --> 01:00:02.719
amazing scenes in different shows and movies. She did Snickers commercial. Yes,

1142
01:00:03.280 --> 01:00:07.400
whether they're playing like football in the blud and they've

1143
01:00:07.440 --> 01:00:11.280
done several of these where they there's a woman in

1144
01:00:11.360 --> 01:00:15.239
the role or Aretha Franklin. There's one where they're in

1145
01:00:15.280 --> 01:00:20.280
the car, Aretha Franklin's in the backseat and Lisamanelli's in

1146
01:00:20.320 --> 01:00:24.440
the front seat and this is where they're playing football

1147
01:00:24.639 --> 01:00:26.639
and it's like, you play a girl. That's not what

1148
01:00:26.719 --> 01:00:32.119
your girl friend said. I mean, So she is up

1149
01:00:32.159 --> 01:00:36.639
for anything, yes, and she became like never you know,

1150
01:00:37.519 --> 01:00:40.239
her populator never died. But there was a period big

1151
01:00:40.320 --> 01:00:43.960
as of social media or whatever, that there was a

1152
01:00:44.039 --> 01:00:47.920
campaign on Facebook for her to host Saturday Night Live,

1153
01:00:49.320 --> 01:00:51.880
which she did a couple of years ago before she passed,

1154
01:00:52.480 --> 01:00:54.800
and her first thing when she said came out on stage,

1155
01:00:54.800 --> 01:00:56.960
she is, I can't believe you guys all because of Facebook.

1156
01:00:57.039 --> 01:00:59.760
You So I checked it out and I find it

1157
01:00:59.800 --> 01:01:05.000
a huge waste of time. But you know, she's a

1158
01:01:05.079 --> 01:01:09.159
trooper and I mean literally kept going.

1159
01:01:09.079 --> 01:01:12.679
To the end. Yeah. And what's interesting is that all

1160
01:01:12.719 --> 01:01:17.639
of these people we've discussed, these dramas and mamas, they

1161
01:01:17.719 --> 01:01:21.679
actually were trailblazers in almost every aspect of the world

1162
01:01:21.800 --> 01:01:24.039
when it comes to the industry. What they've done, how

1163
01:01:24.079 --> 01:01:29.480
they led the parade towards you know, a woman being

1164
01:01:29.519 --> 01:01:32.920
in charge of her own production, her writing, her content,

1165
01:01:33.559 --> 01:01:38.320
her ability to carry a show, hosting a game show.

1166
01:01:39.360 --> 01:01:42.119
You know, these people, these women have actually done an

1167
01:01:42.199 --> 01:01:46.119
amazing amount of trailblazing. And I think we should be

1168
01:01:46.239 --> 01:01:49.280
very grateful to all of them because we're standing on

1169
01:01:49.360 --> 01:01:51.440
the shoulders are a lot of new people are staying

1170
01:01:51.440 --> 01:01:53.559
on the shoulders of these people paid the way.

1171
01:01:54.079 --> 01:01:56.719
So and what I love about each one of the

1172
01:01:56.760 --> 01:01:59.119
ones that we mentioned in terms of the ladies, is

1173
01:01:59.239 --> 01:02:02.199
that for them, it was all about the craft. There's

1174
01:02:02.239 --> 01:02:05.800
no drama involved in anything, or it was never about them.

1175
01:02:05.920 --> 01:02:08.440
It was about their art, yes, and when they brought

1176
01:02:08.480 --> 01:02:11.360
to it. And they all have a huge legacy that

1177
01:02:11.440 --> 01:02:14.800
they leave behind that you can catch on you know

1178
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YouTube or rent the movie or you know, listen to

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their records, whatever it is. They stay with us forever.

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I mean we've been said, Carol Burnette was in the

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late sixties, so we've been talking about her for sixty years.

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Yeah.

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Absolutely, the same thing with Lily Tomlin and you know,

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01:02:35.760 --> 01:02:39.239
Madeline Connor, the names we mentioned, they're all you know, legends, yes,

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01:02:40.119 --> 01:02:46.000
who well deserved accolades and will stay with us forever.

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So yes, so well done. Filed film dramas and funny mamas.

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I think that was a really good you're good at titles.

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I have to say, well, I do what I can.

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Don't expect me to call you anything that begins with

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sir or your majesty. Almost ready to shut this one down,

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01:03:05.280 --> 01:03:07.599
I think, so okay, can I carry it this time?

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You better?

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01:03:08.599 --> 01:03:11.840
Okay, If you're ready to shut this one down, I'm

1194
01:03:11.880 --> 01:03:15.000
ready to shut you down. Mister. Thank you for joining

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01:03:15.079 --> 01:03:17.239
us at Don and Gary Doing sixty. We hope you

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01:03:17.360 --> 01:03:20.800
enjoyed spending the quality time with us. Join us next time.

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As we discover, we are a few sand which is

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01:03:23.199 --> 01:03:27.239
short of a full picnic. You can find us at

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01:03:27.360 --> 01:03:31.280
Instagram and Don and Gary Doing sixty. We're on Spotify

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01:03:31.320 --> 01:03:34.360
and Apple Podcasts. We're on YouTube at the Fifer Pod

1201
01:03:34.440 --> 01:03:38.880
Don and Gary Doing sixty, and we are at pod page.

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01:03:39.000 --> 01:03:41.639
Our website is actually hosted the pod page. I will

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01:03:41.679 --> 01:03:44.639
put the address up above us, and I will put

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01:03:44.679 --> 01:03:46.400
them in the liner notes so you can find us.

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01:03:46.719 --> 01:03:49.840
We're gonna have a little tutorial on it soon about

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01:03:49.880 --> 01:03:51.760
how quickly you can navigate it. But we would love

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01:03:51.800 --> 01:03:54.480
you to go visit that site, leave us comments. You

1208
01:03:54.519 --> 01:03:56.519
can actually go in there and leave us voicemails. So

1209
01:03:56.559 --> 01:03:59.079
we're gonna really push this down your throats, and you're

1210
01:03:59.079 --> 01:04:00.639
gonna do it because we need you to.

1211
01:04:01.440 --> 01:04:03.320
Okay, calm down.

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It's a no more coffee for Don, He's done for

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01:04:05.559 --> 01:04:09.280
the day. But no, the website's really cool. I can't

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wait for people to start using it, especially for the

1215
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voicemails and for the comments.

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01:04:13.320 --> 01:04:15.199
The question is the website up and running?

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It is up and running, and again I will put

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the website here.

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01:04:19.199 --> 01:04:19.840
Okay, thank you.

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Pod Page. They're not a sponsor, but I gotta say

1221
01:04:22.079 --> 01:04:24.440
I had the best experience working with them getting us

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01:04:24.559 --> 01:04:26.960
up and running. It's a great, great platform. So if

1223
01:04:27.000 --> 01:04:29.800
you want to host a podcast, they're your people. I

1224
01:04:29.880 --> 01:04:30.239
love them.

1225
01:04:30.920 --> 01:04:33.000
Well, kudos to you for you're the one who's been

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01:04:33.320 --> 01:04:37.880
putting all this together and then research and putting in

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01:04:37.960 --> 01:04:39.119
the music and putting.

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01:04:38.880 --> 01:04:41.519
In the no do it you get to do like this,

1229
01:04:42.320 --> 01:04:43.920
I'll do it so I can see them there, no

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01:04:44.079 --> 01:04:47.599
do it, but you're head there, nope, lower there, nope,

1231
01:04:47.760 --> 01:04:51.000
like nope. Okay, I'm gonna give you one ding, So

1232
01:04:51.079 --> 01:04:53.280
you're getting one ding. That's all you're getting because actually

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01:04:53.320 --> 01:04:55.800
the I've been working as the editor on the Path,

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01:04:55.880 --> 01:04:57.920
the episode that's coming out this week, and there's a

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01:04:57.960 --> 01:05:00.280
lot of things in there. So please forgive us ahead

1236
01:05:00.280 --> 01:05:02.159
of time because you're gonna have no oh okay.

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01:05:04.760 --> 01:05:08.320
Anyway, well, aside from the two usual dings.

1238
01:05:09.039 --> 01:05:13.239
You and me, ding dong, well done, good choice. Okay,

1239
01:05:13.280 --> 01:05:15.679
Well it's great. It was a lot of fun. Thank you.

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01:05:15.960 --> 01:05:18.159
It was. Okay, we will do this again. We'll pick

1241
01:05:18.239 --> 01:05:21.559
other categories and have fun with it.

1242
01:05:21.880 --> 01:05:24.480
Yeah. So we'll do the B side next time, or

1243
01:05:24.639 --> 01:05:27.159
top three songs, or maybe you could tell us what

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01:05:27.280 --> 01:05:28.760
you'd like us to do top three of.

1245
01:05:29.320 --> 01:05:32.159
Well, I'm instead of comedians. I thought we were doing

1246
01:05:32.280 --> 01:05:35.320
favorite singer, so I'm going through my playlist so we

1247
01:05:35.360 --> 01:05:36.559
can do female singers.

1248
01:05:37.079 --> 01:05:40.159
So we're gonna do male singers too. We'll do male

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01:05:40.199 --> 01:05:41.760
singers next time. Another time.

1250
01:05:42.360 --> 01:05:44.400
Yeah, no, they'll be worthy, but yeah, we'll come up

1251
01:05:44.440 --> 01:05:45.000
more categories.

1252
01:05:45.039 --> 01:05:47.400
Will be fun. Okay, Well, have agree weekend, Gary, that

1253
01:05:47.559 --> 01:05:49.920
was fun, calculator okay, Hi,