Feb. 23, 2025

S2. E1. 'POLITICAL 'WHACK-A-MOLE

S2. E1. 'POLITICAL 'WHACK-A-MOLE
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Season 2
We're back with Season Too! (We KNEW you were worried!) Calm down Ma'am, Don & Gary are ready to navigate the world at........THIS AGE with you. This episode we do dig a "MOLE HOLE" and discuss the first two months with a new person in the White House. Don & Gary also share what they have been up to for Valentines Day and Gary's cold hands....let's just say Ozempic is involved. OUR NEW WEBSITE on PODPAGE Leave us Voicemails Reviews, Read our Blog, Videos, Subscribe, all in one place! https://www.podpage.com/don-gary-doin-60/ Click HERE to learn more about PODPAGE ALL THE SOCIALS and PODCASTS BELOW https://linktr.ee/PafiferPodcastProductions
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Well, hello, hey stranger, how are you?

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How are you happy season two? Or happy season Douet,

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season Dose, season Deuet season Billy and Billy and Billy

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or season Doi in Portuguese?

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How about in Japanese Knie.

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Season Ni.

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Yeah, I love it because it's itchy knee san chi

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go so Knie.

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Oh we're so international, aren't we?

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Hi?

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But I'm also really and I'm really smit with.

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Him by and by m bile and bia Mba which

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is a hele for mbla, which is number two.

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So again our podcast listeners, DoD was shaking as not us, So.

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Welcome back to season two. Is this this exciting?

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Is this exciting? It's a new day, a new year.

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New day, and I've got new.

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Equipment, Dodd, I thought we were going to bring that up.

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Well, my new equipment is basically this big briting front

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of my don.

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It's a microphone.

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Really, oh is that what that is?

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And it's really happy to see me right now.

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So a podcast listeners, you got to get us on YouTube.

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Come on, it's only for the visuals.

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So yes, I'm very excited to get us back for

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a season two. What are we talking about this week?

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Garrie. Well, I mentioned it's a new year, and we are,

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you know, six weeks into it. But what a year

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it's been so far. There's something happened on January twentieth,

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what was it? Oh? Yes, a new president was inaugural. Oh,

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and there's been a lot of activity, a lot of drama,

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a lot of anxiety. So this episode is aptly called

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political whack a mo mole, and weigle not take a

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deep dive, but we will touch on that.

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Yes, yes, so it has been quite a couple months.

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We've taken our time getting started, but we're here with

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full engines, gassed up and ready to get on the

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chat way. And so right back, welcome back to Don

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and Gary doing sixty. We're here to unwrap and unpacked,

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navigating the world at.

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I'm sorry what this age? This age? And Don, what

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age would that be?

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Never you mind, it's a new year and we're gonna

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just be editing whatever age that might be, whatever we

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feel like being this year.

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So just be clear, you're not going back in time,

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are you.

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I'm trying not to. Okay, I'm trying not to, So

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don't forget. You can find us on Instagram at Donnia

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Gary doing sixty. We are on YouTube at Donna Gary

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doing sixty. Please for the full frontal for all of us,

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all of this great stuff. And we're trying to see

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if we're going to create a presence on Blue Sky soon.

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So if that does happen, I will absolutely place that

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into our credits and into the screen so you can

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see what that might be and you can join us

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there on Blue Sky.

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And not to mention, Apple Podcasts, Spotify and other fabulous

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podcast platforms.

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That's why you hear Gary, You keep me in line,

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and you keep the credits.

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Going, just keep the check coming.

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So let's talk. Let's start new season. What's going on?

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Well, before we dive into the political whackable as I

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call it, I wanted to share with you a shocking

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revelation I found out about myself.

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Okay, well, I remember the last time you gave us

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a shocking revelation and that actually went viral, so, not

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to mention a virus probably was created.

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But ah, go ahead, what was my shocking revelation before

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I forget?

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Something about sex?

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Oh right, yes, well this one does include sex. I'm

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still the same Gary in every way. But okay, so

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a little side note is that, as I've mentioned before,

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my mother is older. She's in her late nineties. Yes,

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and one thing I go see her. I've talked her

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every day, but I see her every Saturday. And you

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should go out for lunch. So as we're heading out

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of the house, you know, it's a good son. I

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hold out my hand so she's walking down the steps,

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and if I happen to wearing the short sleeve shirt,

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you know, she grabs my arm and her fingers are

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like ice. I'm like, you've been inside. Why are your

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hands so cold? It's like, well, you know, she's older,

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less insulation. Well, the revelation about me is that. And

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I don't know if it's because of my age or

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the fact that I've lost over forty pounds that, like

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I tell people, I've lost forty pounds of insulation. When

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I go out now during these winter months, yea, you

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know it's gonna be the low fifties. For other people

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that could be nothing, right, but for me, normally I

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run hot, so low fifties is nothing. But lately I've

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been putting on the gloves, the scarf, the nit hat.

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I think I mentioned recently that I went to live

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theater the show Some like it hot, and it was

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like an ice box in there.

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Inside It's that does something is not hot in some

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like it?

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Well, I think my caption, well, it might be hot.

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It's supposed to be the name of the show is

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something like a hot But it was not hot in there.

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It was an ice box. I kept my gloves and

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nit hat scarf on inside the theater that throughout the

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whole show. Oh my shocking revelation is that I've got

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the cold hands of a ninety seven year.

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Old woman and the old heart of a twenty three

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year old.

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How is that possible?

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Listen, it might be the insulation thing. I think you're right.

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I mean you're looking good, you're on your your ozempic journey,

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which is taking.

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But I lost weight in my hands.

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I think you lose it everywhere. I think it just it. Also,

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you're you know, there's less little insulation. Girls are always cold,

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always cold.

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Well, listen, since you mentioned ozempic, I have to say

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there's a tie to you on a zempic in that.

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This was a story, a real quick story on CNN.

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Anderson Cooper was talking to doctor sanche Kupta and they

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talk talk about ozempic, it says. A Steady says that

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ozempic reduces drinking and alcohol cravings. I know you make

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that face. I'm thinking, God, you could never go on

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a zempic. That For me, it's like, you know, food

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cravings are you know, like appetite suppressive type of thing,

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But I never thought about alcohol cravings that would go away.

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I did not know it had that effect.

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Well, that's why you're not on a sent But.

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Here's the thing. It's actually interesting because you know, back

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to you, kudos and applaud for you for continue on

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the journey. Has this number increased anymore since the last

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time you updated us?

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Umm, I'm down like forty four pounds, so whatever, I

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don't remember what I said last time. I remember I

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was excited when to hit the forty pounds.

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Forty four a great last season you were on forty

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but now you've got another four pounds gone. So yes,

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that's amazing. But again, reminder everyone in audience that Gary

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is doing this the complete, wise and educated way by

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using endocrinologist a nutritionists, using their doctor, not jumping in

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there and overdosing no unintents, right right way that most

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a lot of people have been doing. So, I mean

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I got to say your pictures look good.

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Yeah, I mean it's a slower, steady process. But it's

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healthier and better that way than you know, doing the

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quick fix one. And because all that weigh is going

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to come back eventually if you do it that way.

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But anyway, let's talk about you. We pasted Valentine's Day?

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So what did you and your husband?

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Do you know what we did? You know we did

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the day before? I said, no cards, no chocolate, not necessary.

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We just don't. I mean twenty five years, it's like, okay,

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how many more cards and how many more chocolates?

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Now?

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Of course, to make him feel that, I did go

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buy some chocolate and put in the back of my car,

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and when I volunteered, I threw it on the table, said,

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there's your chocolate, where's mine?

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You threw them on the table. Romantics.

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We actually met up with our friends Scott Michelle out

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in Hermosa Beach that night too. It's like, what are

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you doing? Said where they've been married a long time?

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She said, I don't know. Let's let's go get a drink.

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So apparently none of us is an ozembic. Well, yeah,

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I mean it wasn't. Honestly, I mean, yes, it's a

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nice day, it's it's all that good stuff. Of course,

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everything's still good, but it's like, okay, there's only so

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many times we need to do this. It's like Christmas

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is almost the same thing, like what do you want?

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You know, what do you want? I don't know. I

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don't need anything.

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So, in other words, every day is Valentine's.

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Stay with you guys. Let's go with that. Yeah, go

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with that and realize that it was just was not

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that big a deal. I get to say, how about you.

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Yeah, okay, I'm glad you asked. So this year Valentine's

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fell on a Friday night. So what I told my friends, Well,

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it's Friday night, I'm in San Francisco. I'm getting ready

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to stay home alone again. I was working on updating

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my living trust. Can you be any more romantic? Yeah,

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so that's what I did Friday night.

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Okay, hey, you know what, do what you got to do?

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You BEU.

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But I will say that this long, this is holiday weekend,

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there's I would say, hundreds of thousands of people converging

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on San Francisco for a couple of reasons. One is

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it's the culmination of the Chinese New Year celebrations. So

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last night was the Chinese New Your Parade through downtown

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San Francisco, and it draws literally hundreds of thousands of spectators.

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So I went with a friend of mine and we

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checked it out. We've done it, you know, several times.

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It's just it's just a good fun parade. It's I

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and I believe I'm not mistaken. San Francisco has the

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largest China town outside of China.

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Really.

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I mean, other cities have their Chinatown, but I believe

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ours is one of the the biggest or one of

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the biggest. But yeah, so it's a big draw and

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you know, everyone's there and different groups and it so

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that was really fun. And then also happening this weekend

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is the NBA All Stars. Uh that's basketball down the

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big orange Yes, the big orange ball that bounces.

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Yes.

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And I always thought it was like one big game

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where all the major players from all the basketball converge

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and play against toute it. But apparently this is like

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a multi day round robin type of things. So there's

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been events outside of Chase Center where the Warriors play,

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which is near my house. There's been events at Moscone Center,

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the Convention Center, which is also near my house. And

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then I've heard stories of you know, the basketball players

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visiting different schools and neighborhoods and doing fun events for

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the kids. So there's really a lot of pr So

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it's been Friday being Valentine's Day. The mayor who I

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follow on Instagram, the Mayor of San Francisco.

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Oh aren't you buddies with apparently going to wed.

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Well, I've met him a few times. I saw a

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posted he put on Instagram saying that two hundred and

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fifty couples showed up at City Hall on Valentine's Day

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Friday to get married.

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Wow.

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And so you know, and underneath the Grand Deur of

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the City Hall, beautiful rotunda, beautiful setting, and so he

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performed some ceremonies. It's nice to see that the ones

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he posted was a straight couple and also a gay couple.

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So it was just really nice. Yeah, just there's a

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lot of love and hope and positivity in the air.

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So yes, and I think honestly on that note too,

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we need a lot of love and hope, and it

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was great to see them. The diversity being celebrated with

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Chinese New Year because of course I love San Francisco

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and I love the food, but also the Chinese representation

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in that city is huge because of the population, huge press. Yeah, yes, absolutely,

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and it's some place we've been to millions of times

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and enjoyed everything with their culture, so it's great to

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have that. Plus I did read about the two hundred

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and fifty couples going to get.

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Married that yeah city.

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Hell yeah in your city hall. And also the tra

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Mayor's actually performing these so yeah, you know, on what's

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been a really tough couple of months, Yeah, nice to

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see these little nuggets of positivity and cultural diversity and

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things that are going forward that keep the country strong.

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So I don't know about you, but I've had a

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big tough time with this transition. It's been very alarming.

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It's been disconcerting. We talked about, you know, social media

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and also a lot of local things. You know, how

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SMIT and I am with Palm Springs. Unfortunately, there's a

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lot of negative things taking place and starting to happen

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in Palm Springs against LGBTQ plus right community out there.

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So yeah, let's let's dive into this.

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And you know, I mean there's a lot to unpack,

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as we mentioned in our intro, and so it's coming

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in so fast and furious, so too much to cover.

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So we're just gonna you know, hit the have everyone

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look at high points or low points, and just you know,

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have a little discussion. But one thing that was interesting

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I saw online a interview that Steve Bannon did back

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in twenty nineteen, and I didn't see the whole interview,

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but this segment he was talking about how the media

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can only concentrate, like on one big story at a time.

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So what you need to do is flood the zone, said,

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which is exactly what all these executive orders and Doge

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and we're going to talk about been doing. They've been

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things have been coming out so fast, so furious that

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that's what I thought of when I saw this was

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that game that you see at a fair Whack a mole,

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you know, a big table with a bunch of holes.

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They give you a sledgehammer and I don't know, some animal,

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some rodent, it's a mole. A oh yeah, hello, whack

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a mole. A mole A mole said, will pop out

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at different holes and the point of the game is

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to take your sledgehammer and and hit them. So maytimes

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you can get them, but you keep missing them. And

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that's exactly how I equate what's been happening in these

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first six weeks of so much going on. So just

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to list some of the topics that were brought up,

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whether an executive order or some action by joje is

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you talk about border control and immigration, birthright citizenship, the

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pardoning of a fifteen hundred insurrectionists, the tariffs, which I

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want to talk about. You know, the issue with Canada

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becoming up the fifty first US state, changing the name

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Gulf of Mexico to Gulf of America. I guess he

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wants buy the Panama Canal. He wants to take over

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Gaza Strip and make it a resort. He wants to

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buy Greenland and call it Red, White, and Blue Land.

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Executive order saying there's only two sexes, there's no gender ideology,

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so you're a man or a woman, and that's it.

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All the LGBTQ issues, banning from serving the military, blocking

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funding for gender affirming medical care for minors. One of

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the big things in beginning that you don't hear about

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anymore is TikTok, a right that was a big, big deal.

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He withdrew from the Paris Climate Agreement, he withdrew from

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the World Health Organization, and then he created.

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DOJE with Was that his creation or was that the

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other one?

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Well, who came up with the idea? No, but Elon

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Musk is the one heading that charge, and he's basically

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giving him free rein. So he's going after the following

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departments or agencies within the government, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, FBI, CIA,

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the Pentagon, the Department of Education, the FAA, USAID, which is

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the Agency for International Development. They say they're America's main

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global provider of humanitarian aid. He's fired over two hundred

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thousand federal workers based game walking papers, and with these

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different departments, I'll just say quickly say that the President's

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Press secretary said that the intention of DOGE is to

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audit and review the various departments for any waste management.

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I'm totally on board with that because we all know

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whether it's federal, city, or state level, there's always room

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for improvement and audits all for them. But this is

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an audit to me, is we're going to go meet

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with your department head, show me your records, let's review it,

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come back and say here's what we found. But he's

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basically just taking you know, an axe whatever and just

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chopping every one down. And that's what I and of

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course it's a massive upheaval anxiety, animosity just across the board.

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And also the fact that they don't know they're doing

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this indiscriminate. They're not knowing what they're doing because I

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don't know if you saw the latest update I think

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it was yesterday where they're saying they had fired all

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of the people who were technically responsible for the our

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nuclear weapons, or they hired them back after they fired

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them because they didn't realize that they had fired them,

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and they had no background or people with background and

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technology to handle nuclear weapons for the country. So that

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was just an update too. But just back too quickly

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to what you're speaking of. I know, you know who

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Roy Cohne is, right, Roy Cone was also a master

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manipulator at the time, back in the eighties and nineties.

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Who was this person who the current president's mentor was,

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Who's basic if you read anything about this gentleman, I

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will loosely call them a gentleman was basically inciting chaos,

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which is what you're talking about right now, where everything

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is happening all at to keep you looking over at

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everything happening here, and yet we don't know what's happening

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on this over.

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Right here, solid distractions, and so.

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They're creating all of this mass amount of chaos and unrest.

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A lot of people are, myself included, very traumatized from this.

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It's one thing that I find it's incredibly overwhelming on

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social media because everyone's got a story now, left, right, middle, center, extremist,

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everyone has a story now, and a lot of pages

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that I used to follow on Facebook have turned only

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to inciting more unrest or trauma by posting the latest

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thing that's happening. So I'll be honest with you, I'm

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jumping back off of social media a great deal. It's

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caused me a lot of angst ice I hear you,

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and I think, I mean, I definitely we should jump

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into this a little bit more of the specific ones

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that you wanted to talk about, But I definitely believe

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that a deep dive is necessary later for us to

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come back into it.

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So what's on the top of your.

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Mind right now with regards to all this, Well.

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So one of the big topic that came up was

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that of the tariffs, because he said, We're going to,

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you know, put a tariff on China and they are

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going to pay for it, just like I said, Mexico

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is going to pay for the wall.

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Well, you know that never happened.

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Neverppen.

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But the reason why I mentioned tariffs is because in

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the business the company I work for, we deal with tariffs.

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Our products are produced in China, so I know very

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well what happens. There's this misunderstanding when you interview the

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man on the street that they think China's going to

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pay for because that's the message that has been given

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to them by you know who, Yeah, that you know,

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we're going to make them pay for it. And it's like, no,

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they don't pay for it. They charge a tariff. So

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if I'm the company who's importing product from them, I

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as a company have to pay for it. But I'm

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not going to pay that tariff. I'm going to make

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my customers pay for it. So in our case, what

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happened during his first presidency, we say I'm gonna increase

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the tariffs. Now there's there's always been tariffs, but they've

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been relatively low. So prior to his first term, when

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we'd quote a customer, the tariff is kind of built

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into that, right, so we just gave him a price.

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Here's the price of the product, and there you go. Well,

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when he raised the tariff in his first term, what

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we did was say, hey, customers, as you know, presidents

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increase the tariffs, and so for this particular order, randomly

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say the tariff charge is five thousand dollars. So what

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we're gonna do is we're gonna absorb half of that.

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So we're only gonna charge you half of that. That

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was in the beginning, but then with the pandemic, this

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thing dragged on way too long. So at some point

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we said, you know, it's a drag on, so sorry, customer,

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you're gonna have to pay the five thousand dollars tariff

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in the full amount.

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So the company can't afford to continue to absorb.

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Right right. It was a matter of you know, empathy,

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customer service. What they want to do. You want to

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keep your customers happy, like we're all in this together.

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So in the beginning, you pay half, we'll pay half,

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you know, fair, okay, But then it dragged on. Then

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it went to we'd have them pay the full amount. Well, now,

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you know, we always include on our quote the product

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separate line out of tariff, et cetera. But then all

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the chatter about tariff's going up again, so customers are

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contacting us, Oh, well, you quoted us X back in January.

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So what's going to happen now? What I've seen on

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communication is that we will honor that amount that we

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put on the quote for X you know period of time.

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But let's say that same customer comes back to us

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next year. Because you know, the orders don't get processed

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right away. They might get a quote and it could

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be a year or two before they implement it.

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So your quote's good for a year basically, or until.

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You yeah, it depends. Yeah, it's like nine months a year.

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You know. Sometimes they'll ask for like how long is

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this quote good for? And then we'll say, if it's January,

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might say it's good till the end of September or

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December or whatever. But let's say a year goes by,

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like way, we quoted this back in twenty two, twenty four,

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so we will update the quote, but it's now going

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to reflect the current tariff, right, So yeah, so that's

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kind of why we do it. But that's a long

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way of saying that the end consumer pays the tariff.

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Oh yeah, so China does not pay the tariff.

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I completely understanding that is applicable to quite a few

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borders in different countries, right, especially with Canada also who

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hit back and yeah, so a lot of these things

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that and I guess the thing that's interesting about these

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statements that he's making is that he starts them off

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and they actually who knows. I don't know where the

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one with China's going, but I think the one with

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Canada was actually rescinded for a number of days.

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Both Canada and Mexico fought back and whatever, so he said, oh,

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we're there. It's on pause for thirty days and they're

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trying to figure out. So I haven't heard any other update, right.

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The problem with that is that he's claiming that as

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a win.

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Of course.

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Yeah, I think that's where unfortunately, like what I think,

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and I think our audience will also learn that we're

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probably going to start diving into this a bit more

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because it requires more information to be out there for

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more people to understand it. Not everyone is pursuing all

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the details that you're going into right now, Gary, with

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everything that we're going to talk about now and in

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the future. But we need to educate ourselves so we

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understand what's actually happening, because this whack a mole game

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is keeping us distracted and all those things being thrown

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out there. I aka Roy Cohen, who was the master

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of this, who taught this man how to do all

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of this, created all this chaos, and unfortunately it causes

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so much duress and trauma to us that we get

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inert and maybe don't react to certain things. So I mean,

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I hear you. I think, and what's interesting and what

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we'll talk about. I think with our next episode when

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we talk about possibly financial planning, is the big balloon

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of inflation that might be heading our way due to

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all of these increases in tariffs and whatever else he's doing.

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Because when it comes to financial planning, I don't want

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to go down here. Now. It's how your portfolio is

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set up. If it's majorly in stock market right now,

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does it make sense to stay there if a large

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inflation balloon is coming because that will affect the stock market. So, yeah,

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you thought about that nugget, but I have it. It's

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another thing to consider. So not I don't want to

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go down that one, because we'll talk about it when

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we talk about financial planning and all that stuff that's

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required for us at this age. But yeah, what else

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you got? What else was on your mind with that? Well?

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I think the you know, going back to DOGE, that's

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another one. And all the departments and agencies they're going

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after it because obviously they're not only you know, forcing

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people out of their jobs without any Here's the thing

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that bothers me. It's like when Musk and the President

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00:24:48.440 --> 00:24:51.839
were in the his office with recently last week, with

475
00:24:52.160 --> 00:24:58.720
a bunch of reporters asking them and Elon specifically about DOGE.

476
00:24:58.880 --> 00:25:01.839
It's like, oh, about transparent? So if you go on

477
00:25:01.880 --> 00:25:04.519
the do's website. Well, I've not gone there personally, but

478
00:25:04.559 --> 00:25:07.720
people who have gone said it's one it's hard to

479
00:25:07.720 --> 00:25:10.279
find and two there's really nothing on there. So if

480
00:25:10.279 --> 00:25:12.960
you want transparency, put on the website. But there's nothing

481
00:25:12.960 --> 00:25:18.119
there to read. So we don't have any understanding of

482
00:25:19.480 --> 00:25:22.960
Like I said previously, I know audit is a great thing, right,

483
00:25:23.160 --> 00:25:26.920
but tell us what you found. Why are you suddenly

484
00:25:26.920 --> 00:25:31.200
firing two hundred thousand workers in the federal workers. You're

485
00:25:31.240 --> 00:25:33.599
going after the FBI and the CIA and asking for

486
00:25:34.200 --> 00:25:40.119
names of people of agents who worked on specific cases

487
00:25:40.519 --> 00:25:44.160
that really were going after Trump. Right, so he's on

488
00:25:44.200 --> 00:25:45.079
his vendetta tour.

489
00:25:45.720 --> 00:25:49.519
Yes, I have a question though, and I guess maybe

490
00:25:49.519 --> 00:25:50.680
I don't know if you can answer this for me,

491
00:25:50.720 --> 00:25:56.119
because I question Elon's a private citizen, right is he

492
00:25:56.279 --> 00:25:59.599
able to as a privacist and have all this ability

493
00:25:59.599 --> 00:26:00.519
to do this?

494
00:26:01.079 --> 00:26:03.680
Well, he didn't go through a security background check, as

495
00:26:04.839 --> 00:26:06.880
nor did Jared Christian and all the others in the

496
00:26:06.920 --> 00:26:11.480
first round. But he's, according to President A like a

497
00:26:11.599 --> 00:26:16.440
special government employee because he doesn't have to be approved

498
00:26:16.440 --> 00:26:21.200
by Congress. He's not elected into it. It's a tempera appointent.

499
00:26:21.240 --> 00:26:23.039
Apparently I saw somewhere and it's heard a couple of

500
00:26:23.039 --> 00:26:26.200
times that he can only work one hundred and thirty days.

501
00:26:27.720 --> 00:26:28.920
Yes, if they follow that.

502
00:26:29.160 --> 00:26:34.119
Yeah, And I guess it's you know, because well, obviously

503
00:26:34.119 --> 00:26:38.160
he's got multiple businesses that he runs. But here's the

504
00:26:38.200 --> 00:26:41.119
other thing is that some of the departments are many

505
00:26:41.119 --> 00:26:45.960
of the departments that he's going after. There was something

506
00:26:46.240 --> 00:26:50.200
a report of like they had over thirty two investigations

507
00:26:50.200 --> 00:26:57.039
into things against his company, and suddenly they're not investigating

508
00:26:57.079 --> 00:27:00.240
those anymore. And she is interesting now the government it

509
00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:03.160
has a contract with Tesla to spend four hundred million

510
00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:08.839
dollars on his toaster truck car.

511
00:27:09.319 --> 00:27:12.640
That is yes. So the thing that's interesting to me

512
00:27:12.799 --> 00:27:15.839
is that, I mean, again, I guess so far it's legal.

513
00:27:15.920 --> 00:27:17.039
What's happening is that?

514
00:27:17.119 --> 00:27:18.519
Right well?

515
00:27:18.759 --> 00:27:20.400
Ending a bit the.

516
00:27:20.359 --> 00:27:22.640
Way he's going after different departments, it's like the way

517
00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:25.519
he's written in the Constitution. You may want to do that,

518
00:27:25.559 --> 00:27:27.519
but you have to get approval from Congress. So all

519
00:27:27.559 --> 00:27:29.319
that is just being swept aside.

520
00:27:29.640 --> 00:27:34.039
So where's the approval from Congress? So there, this is

521
00:27:34.079 --> 00:27:35.039
not truly legal.

522
00:27:35.079 --> 00:27:40.519
What's happening right Well, you've seen stories of different judges

523
00:27:40.960 --> 00:27:43.680
who have tried to stop certain of these because it's

524
00:27:43.680 --> 00:27:47.440
illegal or whatever, or put a pause on it, whether

525
00:27:47.480 --> 00:27:51.880
it's going after an agency or after a department. So

526
00:27:51.960 --> 00:27:54.519
there have been several judges who have done that. There's

527
00:27:54.559 --> 00:27:58.079
been groups of people who have filed class action suits.

528
00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:03.680
I had this massive firing of the inspector generals. He

529
00:28:03.759 --> 00:28:09.640
fired seventeen inspector generals from various departments. They lead independent investigations, audits,

530
00:28:09.759 --> 00:28:13.799
or inspections when waste fraud abuse are suspected in the

531
00:28:13.799 --> 00:28:17.279
agencies they serve. So that's what they were already doing

532
00:28:17.519 --> 00:28:21.480
their job, and as bipartisan is to investigate the department

533
00:28:21.480 --> 00:28:23.839
and look for that. Well, he's fired all of them,

534
00:28:23.960 --> 00:28:28.000
and now he is doing at random, whack them mold,

535
00:28:28.160 --> 00:28:29.839
just knocking out all these departments.

536
00:28:30.039 --> 00:28:34.319
And I question what this billionaire's qualifications are other than

537
00:28:34.359 --> 00:28:40.279
being friends with the president. There entimelement I mean again

538
00:28:40.920 --> 00:28:43.119
again and also didn't indiscriminate, but I mean one another

539
00:28:43.160 --> 00:28:46.000
little tributary story I heard was about the employees who

540
00:28:46.039 --> 00:28:47.279
were fired from Yosemite.

541
00:28:48.440 --> 00:28:49.279
Oh I had heard that one.

542
00:28:49.359 --> 00:28:52.000
Yeah, those people had all been let go to because

543
00:28:52.039 --> 00:28:54.680
of all and because of that, all the people that

544
00:28:54.759 --> 00:28:58.119
control the crowd regulation, the traffic in and out, a

545
00:28:58.119 --> 00:28:59.920
lot of those services are now going to be gone.

546
00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:04.599
So Yosemite actually could be quite overrun wow tourists, because

547
00:29:04.640 --> 00:29:09.000
there's no one there to monitor the ingoing, outgoing, the trash.

548
00:29:09.079 --> 00:29:12.319
All those things that keep the national park services running

549
00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:15.759
have been cut, so there's a lot more chaos. And

550
00:29:15.759 --> 00:29:18.839
I know that was a side note story, But the

551
00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:22.079
other thing I'd mentioned, you'd mentioned the website there was

552
00:29:22.119 --> 00:29:28.440
a website for clarity or transparency, you said, But they've

553
00:29:28.480 --> 00:29:31.319
actually changed that because I just was hearing on NPR

554
00:29:31.680 --> 00:29:34.519
yesterday that there's a new website coming up that actually

555
00:29:34.519 --> 00:29:39.039
goes in real time to update what's happening the transparency

556
00:29:39.759 --> 00:29:42.119
in regards to that process. Because at one point there

557
00:29:42.160 --> 00:29:44.640
was just a PDF that was produced once a day,

558
00:29:44.960 --> 00:29:47.279
that was sent out in the morning that basically didn't

559
00:29:47.279 --> 00:29:50.160
tell you anything. So now that transparency is changing a

560
00:29:50.200 --> 00:29:52.880
bit too. So there are things that people are doing

561
00:29:53.359 --> 00:29:57.720
to create transparency. The problem is, or the challenges a

562
00:29:57.759 --> 00:30:00.559
lot of us are not taking the time to educate

563
00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:03.960
ourselves again, right, and there is, but the thing is

564
00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:06.720
back to whack a mole. There's so much happening where

565
00:30:06.839 --> 00:30:09.799
where do you look, where you follow, what do you follow?

566
00:30:09.839 --> 00:30:11.559
And then we have to start asking, like what can

567
00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:13.359
we do about these things? Because that, for me is

568
00:30:13.400 --> 00:30:17.079
going to be the next goal, like what can be done?

569
00:30:17.480 --> 00:30:20.400
And you know you mentioned about the anxiety and how

570
00:30:20.440 --> 00:30:24.640
people feel overwhelmed when I see interviews, whether through the

571
00:30:24.680 --> 00:30:30.640
news or I see posts on Instagram and such, where

572
00:30:30.680 --> 00:30:35.599
there are farmers and other folks who are directly feeling

573
00:30:35.599 --> 00:30:39.319
the impact of some of these changes, and you know,

574
00:30:39.359 --> 00:30:42.720
I feel badly because this is their livelihood. Now, on

575
00:30:42.799 --> 00:30:45.160
the other hand, it's like, well, you voted for you

576
00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:48.920
say you voted for him, but they feel deceived and

577
00:30:48.920 --> 00:30:51.640
it's like, that's not what you know he said, which

578
00:30:51.680 --> 00:30:54.880
is true, he said he's certain things. But then on

579
00:30:54.920 --> 00:30:56.640
the other he did say a lot of things that

580
00:30:56.720 --> 00:30:58.680
what he wanted to do. He didn't go to specifics.

581
00:30:58.720 --> 00:31:00.519
He didn't say I'm going to shut down arms, right,

582
00:31:00.519 --> 00:31:03.480
but basically the impacts of some of the executive words

583
00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:07.119
and things that he's done is doing exactly that, and

584
00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:09.720
he's not done, and he's not done, So there's a

585
00:31:09.720 --> 00:31:10.920
whole lot of buyer's remorse.

586
00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:14.480
Yes, And also the true fallout hasn't truly hit yet.

587
00:31:14.839 --> 00:31:18.640
Right when I mentioned inflation and you'd mentioned tariffs and

588
00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:20.839
what that will mean to the consumers right in the

589
00:31:20.839 --> 00:31:23.119
next months to come, And who is.

590
00:31:23.119 --> 00:31:25.440
It going to impact is the lower and middle class

591
00:31:25.799 --> 00:31:30.160
all of us, and yet the elon Musks and the

592
00:31:30.200 --> 00:31:32.240
Basos and you know, they're all.

593
00:31:32.440 --> 00:31:35.519
The billionaires that will continue to do so. And I've

594
00:31:35.599 --> 00:31:39.720
heard the word oligarchy thrown around a lot. Yes, for now,

595
00:31:40.400 --> 00:31:44.720
because basically this is what's taking place. I know we're

596
00:31:44.759 --> 00:31:47.079
going really deep and dark right now, but it's something

597
00:31:47.119 --> 00:31:49.440
that you want to talk about because we feel I

598
00:31:49.480 --> 00:31:51.119
think Gary you'll agree with me that we're kind of

599
00:31:51.119 --> 00:31:53.160
trying just to throw some education out there, just some

600
00:31:53.200 --> 00:31:55.799
information in case you haven't had a chance to look

601
00:31:55.799 --> 00:31:58.400
at things and start thinking about this, because it can

602
00:31:58.480 --> 00:32:01.599
be overwhelming. But the oligarch is basically a class of

603
00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:05.200
people rule, rich people rule everything, right, that's the base

604
00:32:06.400 --> 00:32:06.920
gist of it.

605
00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:12.440
But yeah, yeah, but the question is what can we do.

606
00:32:13.119 --> 00:32:16.799
There's an article written by someone who said that what

607
00:32:16.920 --> 00:32:22.720
he's witnessing in terms of protests here and maybe lawsuits there,

608
00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:26.759
they're kind of all disjointed. There's no unity and strength

609
00:32:27.519 --> 00:32:31.200
in the fight back against everything that's been happening. There

610
00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:34.160
isn't one person or one agency that's kind of taking

611
00:32:34.200 --> 00:32:37.759
the charge. But I think, like I said, everyone, we're

612
00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:40.240
all so overwhelmed. There's so much coming. Ask where do

613
00:32:40.279 --> 00:32:44.240
you start? Because I could be impacted by four different

614
00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:48.400
things going on, and it's like which battle do you fight?

615
00:32:48.440 --> 00:32:51.039
And what can I do as one one voice? Because

616
00:32:51.079 --> 00:32:53.119
he's already in the he's already got the job, So

617
00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:55.519
what can we do. I mean they say, oh, at

618
00:32:55.519 --> 00:32:57.720
the two year mark, you can you know, vote out

619
00:32:57.759 --> 00:33:00.440
some of your congress people like, well, they're not having

620
00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:01.759
any power now or do anything.

621
00:33:01.839 --> 00:33:05.079
So well, again, I mean just to backtrack a little

622
00:33:05.079 --> 00:33:07.319
bit because at one point, remember before we took a

623
00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:10.400
break for the season, you had mentioned why some of

624
00:33:10.400 --> 00:33:15.000
the reasons why we believed that the Democratic presidential Canada

625
00:33:15.079 --> 00:33:18.240
did not win. Yeah, because they weren't truly speaking to

626
00:33:19.000 --> 00:33:21.480
the people that made a difference in the voting, right.

627
00:33:21.640 --> 00:33:23.599
Also concerning I know, we're going through a lot of stuff,

628
00:33:23.599 --> 00:33:25.200
but I mean if you look at the actual results

629
00:33:25.240 --> 00:33:27.519
of people who voted, there was a lot of people

630
00:33:27.519 --> 00:33:29.319
that didn't even bother voting.

631
00:33:29.319 --> 00:33:31.480
Right, which is the case in any election.

632
00:33:31.880 --> 00:33:35.920
True, True, more people did vote, but unfortunately not more

633
00:33:35.960 --> 00:33:37.240
people that would make a difference.

634
00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:37.880
Right.

635
00:33:38.200 --> 00:33:42.000
So there's a lot happening and a lot to be

636
00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:42.839
concerned about.

637
00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:49.200
So I'll try and add a little levity too some

638
00:33:49.240 --> 00:33:53.680
of the things that he wants to do or intends

639
00:33:53.720 --> 00:33:56.599
to do, you know, because all these others are so serious,

640
00:33:56.599 --> 00:33:59.599
but some just seems so silly. Like Kennedy Center honors,

641
00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:03.200
you know, celebrates the arts in all the different formats,

642
00:34:03.599 --> 00:34:05.559
and they always do a big event in a big

643
00:34:05.559 --> 00:34:09.119
award ceremony. They pick like seven or so different artists

644
00:34:09.159 --> 00:34:13.000
from different areas and they celebrate them in his televised

645
00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:17.639
it's a big thing. He fired the board president and

646
00:34:17.719 --> 00:34:21.280
named himself as the president, and then he fired all

647
00:34:21.280 --> 00:34:25.400
the board members and brought in his people, including the

648
00:34:25.679 --> 00:34:29.960
vice president's wife and some other folks. Just like in

649
00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:32.239
his cabinets. All the people he's picking are ones who

650
00:34:32.760 --> 00:34:35.760
you know, support him, kiss the ring whatever.

651
00:34:36.119 --> 00:34:38.960
Until he doesn't need them anymore, and then go away

652
00:34:39.039 --> 00:34:43.000
and they're either not paid or he just turns on them.

653
00:34:43.280 --> 00:34:44.800
Right thing, It's like, how many people are going to

654
00:34:44.840 --> 00:34:47.199
come to Kennedy Honors? Can you only bring Kerrie Underwood

655
00:34:47.199 --> 00:34:49.199
and Kid Rocks so many times? Right?

656
00:34:49.800 --> 00:34:53.320
Right? So you'll see a definite They're still going to

657
00:34:53.400 --> 00:34:56.679
be artists who you know, maybe maybe you know like

658
00:34:56.719 --> 00:34:58.599
a carry into what I would say, she's she's she

659
00:34:58.679 --> 00:35:01.440
would deserve to be an onor ree if you will.

660
00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:05.960
Some of those I don't know. But by the way,

661
00:35:05.960 --> 00:35:07.079
she got a lot of flak for.

662
00:35:08.800 --> 00:35:10.960
I hope. So Kid Rock is already in the way out,

663
00:35:11.000 --> 00:35:11.320
but who.

664
00:35:11.280 --> 00:35:13.400
Gets no But see, because I had this conversation with

665
00:35:13.440 --> 00:35:17.480
a friend of mine, I said, yeah, I mean this

666
00:35:17.519 --> 00:35:20.079
particular inauguration to sing for him, I understand, But at

667
00:35:20.119 --> 00:35:24.119
the same time, it's like I think, maybe what she's

668
00:35:24.119 --> 00:35:27.639
doing it more for the country to to bring a

669
00:35:27.639 --> 00:35:30.840
little unity. No, okay, well next have that.

670
00:35:31.039 --> 00:35:35.159
I don't care never. I will never listen to her music.

671
00:35:35.320 --> 00:35:36.039
She was a product.

672
00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:37.960
Wow. Okay, see that's at the top of my list

673
00:35:38.000 --> 00:35:39.239
in terms of love.

674
00:35:39.519 --> 00:35:41.679
I know. But it's like where you're talking Abou Kennedy Honors,

675
00:35:41.719 --> 00:35:43.760
and its like we kind of went down because you know,

676
00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:46.400
how many people are going to actually accept that invitation

677
00:35:46.559 --> 00:35:50.280
now except people that want to kiss the ring because

678
00:35:50.320 --> 00:35:52.280
most artists, a lot of people have walked away from

679
00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:54.840
the people who had acted booked there canceled them, right,

680
00:35:54.920 --> 00:35:57.559
A lot of people have walked out. Of course, nominees

681
00:35:57.559 --> 00:36:00.159
in the past have been quite substantial in the Hollywood,

682
00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:04.239
in the arts, artists, musicians who it's going to be

683
00:36:04.400 --> 00:36:08.320
very interesting to see who accepts these invitations going forward.

684
00:36:08.119 --> 00:36:12.320
Oh right, right, how they will be canceled. So yeah,

685
00:36:12.360 --> 00:36:14.960
but you know, the whole cancel culture thing is well.

686
00:36:14.840 --> 00:36:16.880
That's one of our episodes that's in the vault that

687
00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:20.400
we're going to pull out in season two. Yeah, cancel culture.

688
00:36:21.079 --> 00:36:22.920
A couple of the things he wants. He's going after

689
00:36:23.039 --> 00:36:27.639
MSNBC and CBS to like get rid of them. Really,

690
00:36:27.679 --> 00:36:30.880
could they maybe have aired a story that was like

691
00:36:31.199 --> 00:36:38.440
criticizing him. I don't know, is that the I think

692
00:36:38.440 --> 00:36:41.800
I mentioned this earlier bit. But the things like changing

693
00:36:41.840 --> 00:36:45.280
the name of Golf of Mexico to Golf of America,

694
00:36:46.239 --> 00:36:49.639
changing the name of green well, we want to by Greenland,

695
00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:55.280
which is you know, run by the country, and change

696
00:36:55.280 --> 00:36:59.119
it to red, white and blue Land, like.

697
00:36:59.239 --> 00:37:01.239
It sounds like an amusement.

698
00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:06.559
Park, right. Uh, the Gaza strip where he oh, we're

699
00:37:06.599 --> 00:37:10.159
just going to move to how two million Palestinian people

700
00:37:11.079 --> 00:37:13.199
off the land and then we're going to clean it

701
00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:16.920
up and make it the riv era of the mill

702
00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:18.880
ef So.

703
00:37:18.960 --> 00:37:21.880
Those two things you just mentioned, do people really believe

704
00:37:21.960 --> 00:37:26.239
that's going to happen? Are people so blinded that they

705
00:37:26.280 --> 00:37:26.880
believe this?

706
00:37:27.559 --> 00:37:30.679
Well, the ones who follow him, yes, But the reactions

707
00:37:30.760 --> 00:37:36.880
from other world leaders. Yea, Canada has been pummeling him. Mexico,

708
00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:41.039
that woman she is standing up to him. Obviously, he's

709
00:37:41.039 --> 00:37:45.239
alienated many, if not all, of our European allies. But

710
00:37:45.280 --> 00:37:47.239
there are also all around.

711
00:37:47.000 --> 00:37:49.159
The held is taking all American products and putting them

712
00:37:49.159 --> 00:37:50.320
on the bottom shelf.

713
00:37:50.599 --> 00:37:53.639
In store or taking them off the shelf, like the

714
00:37:53.639 --> 00:37:57.079
bourbon or whatever off the shelf. And then like they

715
00:37:57.119 --> 00:38:02.679
supply energy to certain states in the h east upper

716
00:38:02.719 --> 00:38:06.400
east side of the country of the US, and they're

717
00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:08.559
threatening the like, well, just cut off the electrics. I mean,

718
00:38:09.280 --> 00:38:10.320
there are things that you're doing and.

719
00:38:10.239 --> 00:38:15.639
I'm like, keep becoming I'll buy a candle.

720
00:38:18.519 --> 00:38:22.079
Yeah, so you know, basically pardon my friends, but you're

721
00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:23.079
shitting on your friends.

722
00:38:23.400 --> 00:38:25.159
Yeah yeah, right.

723
00:38:25.079 --> 00:38:31.239
Canada, Mexico, Europe. I'm I don't know. And and Congress

724
00:38:31.320 --> 00:38:32.599
is not doing anything.

725
00:38:32.960 --> 00:38:37.280
And that's I guess where I find the most trauma

726
00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:41.760
is like, what in our organized government is possible to

727
00:38:42.719 --> 00:38:46.519
push back to get reason back in place, or at

728
00:38:46.599 --> 00:38:52.360
least reviewing what's taking place before it actually happens before

729
00:38:52.559 --> 00:38:56.320
someone like an like must can go and fire thousands

730
00:38:56.360 --> 00:39:00.400
and thousands of people, right, Like, what are the the

731
00:39:00.480 --> 00:39:03.800
stop gaps? Where is reason coming back into And that's

732
00:39:03.840 --> 00:39:05.599
where I get concerned.

733
00:39:06.519 --> 00:39:09.800
Well, one phrase I've heard of there are no guardrails. Yeah, yeah,

734
00:39:09.880 --> 00:39:12.239
there's no guardrails. It's just it's a free for all

735
00:39:13.039 --> 00:39:16.480
and it's being allowed to happen now. Granted, you know,

736
00:39:16.519 --> 00:39:20.400
people and individuals and groups are finding back where they can,

737
00:39:20.519 --> 00:39:23.679
but their voices, I don't think are being heard loud enough.

738
00:39:23.800 --> 00:39:26.639
Have you read anything about anyone getting together? I know,

739
00:39:26.719 --> 00:39:29.440
I mean there's been a lot of press about political

740
00:39:29.519 --> 00:39:34.159
rallies and you know, people staging protests and things like that,

741
00:39:34.159 --> 00:39:38.800
but those only have so much power, right impact, and

742
00:39:38.840 --> 00:39:41.000
it's got to be more on the government level. But

743
00:39:41.360 --> 00:39:44.840
I haven't heard anything yet, I read about anything yet.

744
00:39:44.880 --> 00:39:47.480
I mean, I'll see after the fact. Oh in this city,

745
00:39:47.519 --> 00:39:49.320
you know, they blocked off the streets and did this

746
00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:52.800
and that. Honestly, living in San Francisco, I never hear

747
00:39:52.800 --> 00:39:56.760
in advance of any protests coming up. Really, I should

748
00:39:56.800 --> 00:39:58.639
see them on the news after the fact, like, oh,

749
00:39:58.719 --> 00:40:01.400
I didn't know that of it. Know where they're protesting

750
00:40:01.440 --> 00:40:04.679
front of the city hall or they're blocking Here's how I

751
00:40:04.679 --> 00:40:06.880
found out about one protest when I was still driving

752
00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:09.800
up to San Refel across the Golden Gate Bridge to

753
00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:13.239
go to work, driving in the morning, and suddenly all

754
00:40:13.239 --> 00:40:15.519
the traffic has stopped on the approach to the bridge.

755
00:40:15.960 --> 00:40:18.960
I'm thinking, oh, maybe there's an accident, right, you know

756
00:40:18.960 --> 00:40:23.400
what happens, and then police cars start showing up, and

757
00:40:23.440 --> 00:40:25.559
of course more cars keep coming coming and there's nowhere

758
00:40:25.599 --> 00:40:28.880
to go. You can't get out of the lane you're in.

759
00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:33.400
And eventually I saw through my rearview mirror that there

760
00:40:33.480 --> 00:40:37.519
was police were directing people the back to turn around,

761
00:40:37.880 --> 00:40:40.760
and you went the wrong way on the off ramp

762
00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:44.239
to get off that portion of the approach to get

763
00:40:44.239 --> 00:40:46.880
back on the city streets. So eventually got my turn.

764
00:40:47.159 --> 00:40:49.760
Maybe you turn went the wrong way, but you know,

765
00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:55.960
with guidance from the police, it's because it was protesters

766
00:40:56.000 --> 00:40:59.840
for whatever it was that time. I forget. They not

767
00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:03.440
only just blocked the traffic on the bridge where the

768
00:41:03.480 --> 00:41:08.880
cars go, but they cemented themselves two different things, so

769
00:41:09.440 --> 00:41:11.679
or chained themselves. You couldn't just like pick them up

770
00:41:11.719 --> 00:41:16.159
and drag them to the side. It involved machinery and

771
00:41:16.199 --> 00:41:21.159
you know, love cutting. So I ended up getting home

772
00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:24.760
I think about three or four hours later. Oh so

773
00:41:24.800 --> 00:41:27.519
I was basically stuck in traffic for like three hours

774
00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:30.920
and then because we couldn't go anywhere. So I hear

775
00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:33.280
about it after the fact. Had I known on my

776
00:41:33.360 --> 00:41:35.199
drive to work that those arena protests that hell, no,

777
00:41:35.239 --> 00:41:36.199
I'm working in from home today.

778
00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:37.199
Huh.

779
00:41:37.639 --> 00:41:41.000
So you know, but to your point, yeah, it's gonna

780
00:41:41.000 --> 00:41:45.840
be protests, but are they organized? Are they people hearing

781
00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:49.960
about it? Does it have an impact? It might depending

782
00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:52.039
on what it is and how many people are there

783
00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:53.320
and who listens.

784
00:41:53.639 --> 00:41:56.639
Right, So I guess one of our jobs is to

785
00:41:56.760 --> 00:41:59.559
keep a positive note and maybe try and find more

786
00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:02.800
good nuggets out there of people doing well.

787
00:42:02.840 --> 00:42:05.039
Please if you have any good nuggets right now, because

788
00:42:05.760 --> 00:42:07.239
I feel like a Debbie Downer right now.

789
00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:09.519
No, it's not. It's a little those of reality. And

790
00:42:09.800 --> 00:42:11.880
you know, we didn't want to come in here just

791
00:42:12.000 --> 00:42:14.599
all doom and gloom, but we did want to also,

792
00:42:14.960 --> 00:42:19.239
you know, show you our listeners and viewers that we

793
00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:24.320
are concerned and we're trying to find ways to be involved,

794
00:42:24.360 --> 00:42:28.840
but also probably most trying to educate ourselves and illuminate

795
00:42:29.039 --> 00:42:31.599
things that are going on. So hopefully this will be

796
00:42:31.679 --> 00:42:34.000
helpful in some ways. So you can take a look

797
00:42:34.039 --> 00:42:37.000
at yourselves and see how you're gathering your information what

798
00:42:37.119 --> 00:42:37.800
you want to do with it.

799
00:42:38.760 --> 00:42:40.760
And it was so much coming at us. Maybe you

800
00:42:40.880 --> 00:42:45.519
pick the one or two areas that maybe directly impact

801
00:42:45.599 --> 00:42:49.639
or may impact you, and do some research on that

802
00:42:49.880 --> 00:42:52.920
and see what can I do. Maybe you don't have

803
00:42:53.000 --> 00:42:54.480
to leave the effort, but you can find out, Oh

804
00:42:54.719 --> 00:42:58.639
there's this meeting or this protest coming up, maybe I

805
00:42:58.679 --> 00:43:00.400
can do something there. I mean, I don't know.

806
00:43:00.480 --> 00:43:05.800
There are ways to also boycott through consumerism and non consumerism,

807
00:43:06.440 --> 00:43:08.199
depending on what is being affected.

808
00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:12.039
I don't know. Yeah, if we talk about another episode,

809
00:43:12.400 --> 00:43:14.840
that was an article I found on that. But I mean,

810
00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:17.039
we are now probably at.

811
00:43:16.960 --> 00:43:22.760
Our saturation point, saturation point. But it's good that we're

812
00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:24.679
talking about these things, Gary, because I'd be honest with you,

813
00:43:24.800 --> 00:43:28.159
I was very shook. I was shook when this all

814
00:43:28.199 --> 00:43:31.159
started happening. And just a side note, I mentioned that briefly,

815
00:43:31.239 --> 00:43:35.000
Palm Springs is actually seeing quite a bit escalation in

816
00:43:36.880 --> 00:43:39.960
bullying and some a lot of racial slurs taking place

817
00:43:40.000 --> 00:43:44.320
in the LGBTQ plus community out there. That's where we

818
00:43:44.360 --> 00:43:46.159
spend a lot of time. But also there's been they've

819
00:43:46.159 --> 00:43:48.480
been a lot, a lot of local businesses have been targeted.

820
00:43:48.880 --> 00:43:52.440
There have been some crazy, crazy people out there doing

821
00:43:52.519 --> 00:43:57.239
some really bad things and not being held accountable. So

822
00:43:57.360 --> 00:44:00.280
what good thing hits come out of that? Really quickly

823
00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:03.119
is that the local community in Cathedral City got together

824
00:44:03.760 --> 00:44:08.000
and protested the person that was creating this. There was

825
00:44:08.039 --> 00:44:11.840
one individual who's creating a lot of issues by using

826
00:44:11.880 --> 00:44:15.639
their bullhorn in their front yard and backyard. Oh constantly

827
00:44:16.039 --> 00:44:18.199
they would call the bullhorn bully and I'm using them

828
00:44:18.320 --> 00:44:20.920
as a non binary because I'm not going to single

829
00:44:20.960 --> 00:44:24.960
them out because there are more than two genders. So yeah,

830
00:44:25.000 --> 00:44:27.599
that person actually was finally cited after a lot of

831
00:44:27.679 --> 00:44:30.760
pressure from the community to the police department in Cathedral

832
00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:33.880
City to take action, which didn't happen. So some good

833
00:44:33.960 --> 00:44:38.360
things can happen after protests and bringing awareness to the community,

834
00:44:38.599 --> 00:44:39.960
so it can be done.

835
00:44:41.440 --> 00:44:43.519
I don't know if I mentioned this to you before

836
00:44:43.639 --> 00:44:45.159
we start recording band. I don't know if I mentioned

837
00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:47.840
it during the courting really quickly on DOGE and the

838
00:44:47.880 --> 00:44:50.360
impact of that. So you know, they are going after

839
00:44:50.480 --> 00:44:54.840
federal agencies on different areas. But recently, I want to

840
00:44:54.840 --> 00:44:58.559
say last week here in San Francisco City Hall, they

841
00:44:58.599 --> 00:45:01.760
were a group of people who showed up wearing mega

842
00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:08.599
hats and DOGE T shirts visiting various departments within city

843
00:45:08.639 --> 00:45:13.039
Hall said around noon on Friday, demanding that employees turn

844
00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:18.079
over digital information related to alleged wasteful government spending in fraud.

845
00:45:18.719 --> 00:45:22.840
Turns out they were scammers. Luckily, the employees of those

846
00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:25.280
departments said, we're not giving you nothing, and instead they

847
00:45:25.360 --> 00:45:27.760
called the sheriff because the sheriff is within city hall

848
00:45:27.800 --> 00:45:30.079
and they do rounds. By the time they got there physically,

849
00:45:30.519 --> 00:45:34.000
those people had fled. So they're checking video surveillance see

850
00:45:34.000 --> 00:45:38.800
if thing track them down. But they said that Doge.

851
00:45:39.239 --> 00:45:41.960
They said, the exact mission of which seems entirely up

852
00:45:42.039 --> 00:45:46.880
to Musk's capricious moods and conspiracies, is only focused on

853
00:45:47.079 --> 00:45:50.320
federal government spending and would not have any business in

854
00:45:50.400 --> 00:45:54.440
San Francisco City Hall. So these people, these scammers, didn't

855
00:45:54.480 --> 00:45:57.760
do their homework. They went into a city hall in

856
00:45:57.840 --> 00:46:00.559
San Francisco and give me your the We need to

857
00:46:00.599 --> 00:46:04.280
check for a waist. But thankfully those employees are like,

858
00:46:04.559 --> 00:46:07.599
you know, they gave them the finger and the road

859
00:46:08.400 --> 00:46:13.400
if the road jack. Yeah, So there's definitely going to

860
00:46:13.440 --> 00:46:15.239
be with all this going on, you know, there's going

861
00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:19.239
to be impersonator impersonators and scammers. You're going to get

862
00:46:19.239 --> 00:46:21.719
a phone call or an email or something that is

863
00:46:21.800 --> 00:46:24.280
going to think you're being targeted, but you know, and

864
00:46:24.360 --> 00:46:26.840
it's nine times out of ten it's going to be

865
00:46:26.880 --> 00:46:29.840
a scam, right, So that's another thing that comes out

866
00:46:29.880 --> 00:46:32.920
of things like this, And they could get some vulner

867
00:46:33.119 --> 00:46:35.280
like we warned my mom all the time, like never

868
00:46:35.679 --> 00:46:38.039
give any personal information or the phone or whatever, and

869
00:46:38.719 --> 00:46:40.559
lucky she's been good about it. But you just never

870
00:46:40.679 --> 00:46:44.119
know that there could be someone at home who could oh, yeah,

871
00:46:44.119 --> 00:46:46.400
here's my here's my bank account number, here's that you know,

872
00:46:46.519 --> 00:46:56.920
and everything gets just destroyed. So anyway, more conversations that

873
00:46:57.000 --> 00:46:58.639
follow on and we'll be.

874
00:46:58.840 --> 00:47:01.440
Promise to light enough a little bit in the episodes

875
00:47:01.519 --> 00:47:03.320
to come. We do have some things in the ball

876
00:47:03.400 --> 00:47:07.440
to anybody got time for this interviews which we had

877
00:47:07.599 --> 00:47:09.519
back which is we still in the ball we have

878
00:47:09.559 --> 00:47:11.000
to release. Those will be fun.

879
00:47:11.840 --> 00:47:14.119
One of them I will say is I'm looking forward

880
00:47:14.119 --> 00:47:17.599
to while we already recorded it is a guest who

881
00:47:17.880 --> 00:47:21.320
is we are? She and I are cousins and she's

882
00:47:21.440 --> 00:47:24.599
also when you're growing up YouTube are next door neighbors? Yes,

883
00:47:25.039 --> 00:47:27.320
And for our long time listeners from here and three

884
00:47:27.440 --> 00:47:29.920
ps we mentioned a couple of times here and there

885
00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:32.599
big Angie as your next door neighbor. Well, this is

886
00:47:32.679 --> 00:47:35.880
my cousin Elena, who is big Anngie's daughter. She lives

887
00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:38.559
on the East Coast. We've not seen her in years,

888
00:47:38.960 --> 00:47:41.559
so this was a lovely reunion for the three of us.

889
00:47:42.480 --> 00:47:47.079
So that's a really fun episode. We have a guest

890
00:47:47.159 --> 00:47:52.000
who appeared twice on three p's and is joining us

891
00:47:52.079 --> 00:47:55.559
for the first time on Don and Gary because he's

892
00:47:55.599 --> 00:47:59.639
a member of the sixty club now, so that's that's fun.

893
00:48:00.719 --> 00:48:03.280
And then we mentioned cancel Culture. So these are some

894
00:48:03.360 --> 00:48:05.639
episodes that are already recorded. They're coming up soon.

895
00:48:06.280 --> 00:48:06.400
Uh.

896
00:48:06.599 --> 00:48:08.480
You mentioned this couple of episodes we're when we talk

897
00:48:08.519 --> 00:48:12.760
about one is if you haven't done already at our age,

898
00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:15.679
I think you should already have in your vault a

899
00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:20.880
living trust, a will, whatever, arrangements for your next lifetime.

900
00:48:22.199 --> 00:48:24.760
So that's a topical conversation I have because you and

901
00:48:24.800 --> 00:48:26.920
I are both talking about we're updating our living trusts

902
00:48:26.920 --> 00:48:31.159
and things. So we'll talk about that and uh, and

903
00:48:31.320 --> 00:48:33.920
more to come, yes, and more guests.

904
00:48:33.800 --> 00:48:38.000
And a little more lighthearted is coming your way too.

905
00:48:38.159 --> 00:48:39.280
We're just going to keep ourselves.

906
00:48:39.320 --> 00:48:40.199
Yes, please, I can't.

907
00:48:40.360 --> 00:48:45.800
I can't do things then, yes, but we're so good

908
00:48:45.840 --> 00:48:48.320
at it, so are we really to shut this down.

909
00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:50.559
Shut it down.

910
00:48:50.639 --> 00:48:52.920
Don okay, let's shut it down. So thank you for

911
00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:55.760
joining us for season Dewey or season and Billy and

912
00:48:55.840 --> 00:48:59.880
Billy and Billy for season two of Donning Gary doing sixty.

913
00:49:00.440 --> 00:49:03.239
You can find us on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. As

914
00:49:03.280 --> 00:49:06.320
carry said, also on Instagram and of course on YouTube.

915
00:49:06.360 --> 00:49:09.159
Visit on the year June sixty. Please join us next

916
00:49:09.199 --> 00:49:11.760
time as we navigate the deep waters of getting older,

917
00:49:12.199 --> 00:49:14.039
sometimes in the light boat for the.

918
00:49:14.039 --> 00:49:20.719
Whole Wow that doesn't send bromstick.

919
00:49:20.840 --> 00:49:22.360
Although we've got a cork. I've got a cork, and.

920
00:49:22.360 --> 00:49:24.320
I'm not right. We'll put a cork in the plug.

921
00:49:25.880 --> 00:49:30.079
And on that note, we'll see you next time. We'll

922
00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:32.320
see you next time. By Gary N.