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He's a down and out gambler good
money and a down an out scientist.

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Oh Joe is, however, a
first class dreamer. It's an intelligent signal,

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it's real. But is he willing
to bet his life on a piece

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of the action find out? I'm
next Friday's night Man. Well, welcome

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back to Springwood, my friends,
because it is welcome to prime time of

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Friddy's Nightmares podcast, and I am, of course your host, Enrique Kutou

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here with my good buddy double D
Louis Denoyet. Hello, and thank you

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again for that. Oh my pleasure, my pleasure, but really you should

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thank you parent. That's true,
it's true. We are gleefully yes,

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heading back to Springwood for a very
this is a very special episode. It

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is indeed very special. We've talked
a little off Mike, so we won't

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go super into it. But will
you talk off Mike all the time?

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I mean, that's professional broadcast or
how many years? Shut up? But

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this this episode is is special,
just a little bit special, little bit

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special. Don't even know where to
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it's directed by Robert England. That
it is, yes, it is,

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which for those who don't know he
was in v Yes, and uh,

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did you have anything to a night
right elm Street before this though? Just

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the movies. That's that's really about
it. You know. I always thought

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Robert England was an odd choice for
Freddy Krueger. I always hope they'd go

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with Robert new England. You'd like
hery, You're fucking retarded. Jesus hey,

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Keed, I want to die in
your dreams. Oh God, I

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can't believe I just thought Burton new
England. Yeah, I just thought.

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That's not in my notes at all. I thought of that just now.

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I am a genius. Thank you, thank you. I don't have the

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applause things set up here. I
just I remember a lot here. It

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is, thank you, thank you. I just remember like that really really

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hot period in the late nineties of
the early two thousands where he was in

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everything, I mean, from from
Too from Urban Legend to Dance macab to

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Toby Toby Hoover's Night Terrors, the
Mangler and just on and on and on,

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the Hatchet and two thousand and one
Maniacs and all that wonderful, wonderful

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schlock. So you're talking about the
height of his career, the height of

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his career. Well, and not
just because his necessary, although I mean

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his fame, his mainstream fame did
of course diminish. But all yeah,

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all, when you're the biggest star
in the world, it can't laugh.

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No, I mean, well,
hell, he was just on Stranger Things,

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yeah, which was season awesome,
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point is that, like it's funny
how mainstream SI SaaS versus cult success work

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though. Yea, so nowadays very
few big movies want Robert England. Yeah,

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but you can set him at a
convention and fans will wait eight hours

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to pay one hundred dollars to talk
to easily all three days. And that

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is to tell you what a star
of the genre Robert England truly is.

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Absolutely, because that's what really matters. What matters is how much the fans

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give a crap. It's way more
important than you know, mainstream success or

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blah blah blah or whatever it is. So anyway, but no, So,

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Robert England dict directed this episode.
His first directorial episode was Cabin Fever

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last season. Yes, and that
was one of my faves of the first

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season. I mean, he wore
a jet pack as Freddie and flew and

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was on the top of a plane
while the plane was flying. There's something

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on the way. But like,
my biggest like disappointment in his directing career

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is all he has film wise is
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which Killer Pad two thousand seven,
I think, which is not very

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well for I need to watch that. I've never seen it got anything higher

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than like a three point six nine. But have you seen it. I've

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not. Oh, well, I
want you. I want to quoting that

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actually the Rotten Tomatoes scores. But
also like nine seven six Evil. I

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used to really like ninety seven six
Evil, and then you and I revisited

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it like several years ago, We're
like, this isn't very good. It's

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not terrible, but it's not great
effects. It's it's but nine seventy six

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Evil two is superior, which I
would not say lightly no, And I

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mean that's kind of like which board
two, Which board two has the better

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car crash than which board? Well? Which board two? Is a part

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of that era of horror movies I've
told you about that most people have never

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referenced, which is what I call
loft horror. Yeah, there was this

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entire era where all of the movies, all of the b movies on like

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Cable in two ninety three, they
all took place in like these big apartment

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lofts in la which I guess we're
like really popular and bohemian, yes at

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the time, but there are a
bunch of them, And which which master

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or which master, which whichboard?
Two took place in a loft, and

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then so did Amityville New Generation Generation. Yeah, so you see what I

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mean. Though, It's like and
there were tons of other movies that weren't

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famous sequels that also had that going
on. Yeah. So that's the thing

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that kind of fascinates me, is
these little trends, yes, trends or

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interesting, yes they are, but
uh oh and and like gosh there are

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there was Oh, Stripped to Kill
had a massive loft in it that was

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like a major part of this.
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or even mid eighties horror film always
has a loft featured in it, even

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if it's just a scene or two, like you always have a character set

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up with one. It felt like, yeah, no, I could see

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that. It's just one of those
things that like I noticed it after watching

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more and more and more nineties stuff. Is I was like, there are

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a lot of a lot of lofts. Yeah, maybe it's a little lofty

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of me to notice it, but
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Oh my point was yeah. Also
whichboard two was directed by the same writing

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written and directed by the same writer
director as whichboard One's right? Yeah,

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Kevin, you're thinking Night of the
Demons was when Tenney wasn't available. Yeah,

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yeah, so that one was directed
by Brian Trenchard Smith. Yeah.

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So yeah, that's why it's That's
why it's bonkers, because it's got that

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awesome, crazy, you know mentality. You're also talking about the gentleman that

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did LEPRICN three and Lepricn four in
space. Well only four was in space.

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Three was in Vegas. Yes,
three was in Vegas and featured an

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Elvis in person that are going at
the leprechn We'll see a little ugly thing.

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How about kick you across the building? Job? But anyway, Freddy's

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Nightmares? What's that some show?
No? No, no, uh,

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Freddy's Nightmares. We're back to it. So this is, of course,

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this is season two, episode nine, Monkey Dreams. Yes it is.

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And I first of all loved the
title dreams because I had no idea what

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it meant, and then they explain
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also a title. I had no
idea what it meant. I know I

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knew what Monkey Shines meant before the
movie, did you? Yeah? Alright,

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fair, No, it's okay,
You're stupid. I don't know what

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else to say to give Monkey Shines
another chance. I was not a big

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fan of that movie. What is
your problem with Monkeys? Because, by

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the way, I'm thrilled that this
is the Freddy's Nightmares episode with monkeys.

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I mean, I'm happy to have
it too. Monkey Shines actually it actually

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relates. Oh, I feel bad
for the animals to where it takes me

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out, even if they are the
killer in it. Like the final ten

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minutes of Monkey Shines spoilers, I
mean, it's been out for for over

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thirty years now, but the final
ten minutes of Monkey Shines, when the

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monkey comes face to face with with
the dude in the wheelchair, it just

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it broke my heart because the monkey
loved the character so much that he was

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killing for him. But also like
the monkey shouldn't have killed all his friends

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and family, and so when he
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his teeth that it just bothered.
What you're saying is you you felt bad

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for the monkey in the narrative,
in the narrative, not not for the

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literal cree a little. Well,
yeah, I mean I feel bad for

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the creatures. But the story that
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feel bad for the monkey at the
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and terrifying monkey, because it did
do all the murder and everything. And

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yet when we watch Link, you're
all laughter. I was not all laughter.

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I love Link. God, Link
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Yes, yes, we can't forget
Shakma shock. I think there's another

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there's another killer primal rage, a
killer baboon. And I think also blue

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a guana or blue blue monkey.
But no, I think Blue Monkey's about

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a virus. I don't know there's
another killer. Thinking of twelve monkeys,

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is the virus movie? No,
no, Blue Blue. It's either blue

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monkey or blue iguana. I'm just
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in twelve monkeys. Yes, that's
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I think it's a virus movie.
Yeah, yeah, you know who

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you know who's a real virus?
You? Yes, yes, I am

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uh. Well, we've talked for
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time to actually do the point of
the show. Should we dive into the

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episode? Oh yeah, all right, So we are talking about season two,

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episode nine, Monkey Dreams, directed
by Robert England, of course,

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mister Freddy Krueger himself, and like
we said, director of Cavin Fever in

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nine seven six evil. The original
air date for this episode, he was

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director of the episode called Cabin Cabin
Fever. Sorry, Cavin Fever movies are

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good too. I like the second
one. Second one's good. A penis

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bleeds? Was that an unrelated thought? Original air date was November twenty seventh

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or December third of nineteen eighty nine. This episode is directed by Michael Kirshenbaumb.

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He was a director on He Man
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four, not the movie, the
TV series Dennis the Metis TV series in

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eighty six. And we've had him
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writer for Dream Come True and Memory
Overload. Oh okay, I like those

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and Memory Overload. Monkey Dreams is
a direct sequel to that, so we

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are going back to the episode about
the computer people. He said, what

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was it, Mike Michael Michael Kurshion
bamburshab, my Kurshion bomb, my Kurshion

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bomb. It was near Christmas one
day. It was indeed, Look,

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I'm in a goofy mood. So
no you're not. Look you deny correct

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but no, so but no,
So he's got he's got quite a pedigree

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in television. Yeah he does.
Yeah. So we open with a shot

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of four men playing poker in a
dimly lit room where an old, tiny

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Western piano plays a tune. One
gentleman raises the two the grand uh to

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the pot to two grand. We
meet Joe, who was played by Joe

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Kelly, making his return from memory
overload. He was the character that played

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the brother of Millie who will get
to you in a second. He ups

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the pot by ten grand. We
also meet doctor Phil Lynch played by Sherman

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Howard now Henrick. He's in a
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called tron called Day of the Day. Yeah, no, I knew it.

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I knew his I figured you did. No. No, there's a

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reason I knew it because he was
a guest at centem a Wasteland in two

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thousand and five. Okay, and
I was there. Did you get talked

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to him? Yeah? Awesome?
He was so nice that he was super

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nice. But he played bub Zombie. Yes, and a lot of people

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forget that because the makeup combined with
his masterful performance. Yes, he doesn't

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resemble himself anything. Yeah, yeah, it's It's actually one of those things

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that I think about it. I
was like, wow, they got one

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of those like classic character actors to
play Bub. Yeah, because this would

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have been only five years later,
five years later something like that. He

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was also on Dallas in nineteen eighty
eight Lethal Weapon two. He was in

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eighty nine. He played a hit
man, which I remember. He's the

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one. I don't know if you
remember very well, but he's the one

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that when Gibson sneaks into the office
when Riggs stinks in the office where the

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fish are. He's the one that
punches the guy gets punch in the nose

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when he tries to draw his gun
on him. Oh, I remember that,

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but I all Lethal Weapon movies are
tattooed into my brain. That's fair,

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that's fair. Also, Dark angel
Akai come in Peace in nineteen ninety,

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Ricochet in ninety one, and playing
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in ninety four. Well, for
the right, he's not an evil doctor.

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Well though, I was gonna say, for the record, everyone was

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in the States. So Doctor Lynch
tells Joe he's bluffed one too many times.

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Taking a sip of his whiskey,
he puts his chips into the pot,

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telling Joe he'll see him. Joe
has a woman light his cigar off

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camera, and Lynch tells him to
come on and play poker. Frustrated with

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the delay, Joe takes a puff
of his cigar and tells Lynch that he

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is playing poker, throwing down his
card to reveal a full house of aces

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and queens. Well, and I
do want to mention he's wearing a big

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green visor, the guy who's challenging
him death. And all I could think

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was, David, why don't you
have a big green visor? I feel

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like I feel like you could.
You could pull that off. No,

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no, I could not. There's
no way I could pull off that visor.

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That makes me sad he think higher
of it. It makes me think

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of a teller or the casino assistant
in Dick Tracy. That's that's automatically what

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I think of when I see those
green visors like that. Oh, you

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mean just because they depicted any person
who counts anything is wearing Yes, I

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just think that you should that should
it should be law that you have to

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wear them when you play poker.
I could go with that. I think

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that that's the only thing that's reasonable. So Lynch tells Joe that he's afraid

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of excuse, he is afraid they're
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the two other gentlemen agree and stand
up by Lynch approaching Joe, but Joe

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stands up firing a pistol, shooting
them dead. At the table, he

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kisses the woman, but is awoken
to the sound of knocking as back as

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knocking back into reality, it's revealed
this was all a dream, and Joe

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is faced down on his dining room
table with cards, poker chips, and

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bottles spread about it. It's a
great example of like anyway, here's the

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reality of having a gambling addiction,
and in a shocking turn of events,

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yes there was a dream. Who
knew it? And that's one thing I'll

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say about this episode, which we'll
get into of course, is they're very

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very open with this is a dream, Like we're not even trying to throw

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it to you, like you saw
him go to sleep, you see him

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in this reality now. Like they
don't play with it a lot in this

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episode. No, they're they're they're
playing fast and loose with just about everything

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in this one. So he goes
to drop or he goes to the door

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to find Barney the Shiv played by
Rick Zoomwaltz. He was bulling over the

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Top in nineteen eighty seven. That
is a classic film. Disorderlies in eighty

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seven as well, that is a
more classic Werewolf the TV series in eighty

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seven, that's pretty good. Tales
from the Crypt in eighty nine, Racula

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in ninety and where I recognized him
from immediately Batman returns in ninety two,

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Go ahead, hit me, Hit
me again. He was in he was

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in the Disorderlies and Racula Batman blows
him up with a bomb. That's the

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only time Michael Keaton straight up murders
somebody and we see it. And Disorderlies

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is the only time the Fat Boys
starred in a film. Not true Crush

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Groove starred. They were featured.
Okay, okay, they were amazing,

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Yes they were, but no,
no, no, no, no disorderlies

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was their starring vehicle. I own
a copy of it? Do you?

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I owned three, an original one. I want to see them right now.

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How could you when you don't know
your face? So Barney the HIV,

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asking Joe where the money is?
Joe stays silent, giving Barney the

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silent answer he wasn't looking forward to
as he enters asking Joe what happened to

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the big poker game, reminding him
he was supposed to win what he owed.

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Mister Black Joe tells him he didn't
win as much as he had planned,

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and Barney informs him he's as bad
at playing cards as he gives us

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picking horses, and thirty thousand dollars
is a lot of money that worries mister

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Black. Oh, you don't want
to worry mister Black. Joe tells him

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he has a plan, and Barney
request to use Joe's phone as he calls

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his wife to tell her that he's
going to be late for dinner. He

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apologizes and receives a request to pick
up milk pudding and cat food. Must

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be a Friday night the good stuff. Yeah, it sounds like a Friday

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night to me in Springwood. Reassures
Or he'll be home soon as he can,

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but he goes to hang up the
phone. He begins to wrap the

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cord around Joe's neck, choking him
and grabbing him, telling him the last

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time he's going to come by without
doing any damage. He's interrupted as Millie

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Eileen Seely from Jack Frost one and
two, who played Anne in both of

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those films. She was in in
Memory Overload. I was trying to remember

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I recognized her. Yeah, Jack
Frost two, one and two. Yeah,

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and she was Millian Memory Overloads.
So she was the one that got

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the drop on her. Yeah.
Yeah, it's so returning as the same

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character, Joe's sister enters the apartment
as Barney leaves, telling her that her

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brother needs to wise up. Millie
asked, what is it this time,

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and Joe tells her it's nothing.
He just owes some money, telling her

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that he's got in love with her
because this time they're gonna kill him.

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Millie looks concerned as Joe walks away
from the door. We immediately cut to

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Freddie's domain, where we hear the
western piano music start up again. Freddie

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is crouched down as he makes dice
dropping motion and states the stakes have been

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raised. I'm betting Joe can't get
by without buying me without getting slashed one

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a piece of the action, he
says, looking into the camera. Oh

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yo. He looks right into the
camera and just gives that Freddy smile.

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This is some Freddie close up in
this episode is some Freddie ass shit,

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some Freddie ass shit. Indeed.
The next day, we find Joe at

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work at his research lab as he
is on the phone with someone asking about

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selling his car. He then hangs
up, telling the person at the other

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end he can get a better price
from the dealer. He's clearly distraught as

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another lab tech, Genie enters.
Genie is played by Sharon Mahoney. She

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was in Murder, she wrote in
ninety two, Space Rangers in ninety three,

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and Party of Five in ninety seven. She enters holding a monkey named

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Winston. I can't wait for monkey
time on Oh Man. I think there's

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very little on earth more funny than
a monkey. David, are you aware?

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I'm very aware of this because I
make you laugh just by saying,

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Hey, a monkey smoking a star
no, you can't. Yeah, but

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all I'm saying is that monkey better
smoke a cigarette or else we riot.

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So Joe tells her good morning,
and then jokingly says good morning, Doctor

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Lynch as Genie laughs, confirming that
Winston does look a little like Lynch,

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as Joe confirms he's got less air
in his ears. I get it.

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He asked how Instant is doing,
and Jennie proudly tells him that Winston can

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point to a card with a number
on it if she tells him the number.

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Doctor Phil Lynch enters with an issue
on the keyboard in the lab that's

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locking up the computer. Joe tells
Phil that he's smart and can't figure out

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how to unlock it, and Jennie
comes to Phil's defense, stating it's a

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mainframe issue which is causing multiple computers
to lock up through the research lab.

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Phil fires back at Joe, stating
this university has spent more money on computer

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upgrades versus useless research. They'd be
a lot better off, adding to Joe,

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to get real interstellar communications is not
a study but a scam. Oh

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and see, you'd think people who
live in the town haunted by Freddy Krueger

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would be a little bit more open
to believing in things like space aliens or

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Bigfoot, or Elvis Presley being alive. Well, he was alive hold on

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moment of silence for mister Elvis.
Aaron Pressley passed away in the nineteen eighty

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nine and Springwood, Ohio. So
Jeannie tries to get Phil to walk with

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her, but Phil mocks Joe again, asking if he's been in contact with

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Obi Wan yet. Joe replies back
that Phil's just having issues with deciphering Joe's

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code, as it's beyond his comprehension. Phil fire's back that it's less comprehension

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system is difficult than his son's Atari
system. But Genie questions Phil that if

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Joe's research is so useless, why
does he have a grant to decipher signals

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from Voyager space Shuttle. But Phil
is quick to correct her that the grant

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is to listen to extraneous sounds from
the Voyager, and Joe's the only loser

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that would agree to payment versus actual
manpower it would take to figure it out.

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I think the best part about this
show this episode, yeah, is

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it introduces something very important, David, and that is the concept of the

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Chad scientists. We have never before
seen the Chad scientist. This dude's like,

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I'm into my lab coade and I'm
going to listen to sounds from space

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and I'm going to do all this
stuff. And then this big, tall,

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blonde muscular scientist walks in. He
goes, hey, loser, you're

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doing science, but it's the dumb
kind of science. Come here, let

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me put your face in the toilet
like you gotta admit you weren't. No

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one's expecting it. Nobody's expecting Chad
scientist, though, but we got him

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in space that we do. So. Genie tries to defend Joe again,

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but Joe shouts at her and says
to forget it. Phil walks over to

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Joe, mocking that he's only gotten
one grant in five years, while Phil

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has gotten grant after grant. Once
again calling out Joe for having a useless

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study, Genie tells him that's enough
and the three of them leave Joe's office,

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leaving him alone. We see Joe
is trying to decipher a transmission,

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but only finding it to be a
random space noise with no new results.

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Joe closes his eyes and sits back, but wakes up a short while later

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to find a new transmission being translated
that reads we've studied Earth ready for contact.

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Joe immediately types back, where are
you signaling from? Suddenly a green

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orb flies around the room, catching
Joe's attention but no answer to his question.

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And it's a beautifully I don't even
know if you could actually call it

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CG. I mean it's computer generated
some sorry, but it is. I

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mean, I'm sure you were blown
away, Like did you fall out of

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your college when you saw this green
orb come at him? You were like

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he fell over and craft yourself.
So the lights and monitor and monitors all

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go out quickly, bring in the
room into total darkness. He brings out

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a lighter, searching for the orb
and asking what's going on. As he

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makes his way to a door opening
it, he finds Barney on the side

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peeking in menacingly, which gives him
a fright and lets out a scream,

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waking up in his office and startling
Jeannie, who screams, dropping a cup

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of coffee and shattering the cup.
He asked her what's going on, and

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she tells him she was just coming
to check if he wanted a cup of

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coffee, she sees he's gotten no
reply from the signal. Later, Millie

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comes into the office and runs into
Genie, who asked if she's excited about

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Joe's deal. Millie questions what and
Genie's talking about, and Jennie tells her

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that there's an inside stock deal.
Joe's gonna be rich, fabulously wealthy.

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Millie asked if Jeannie invested, but
she tells her that she didn't have any

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extra money to throw at it,
before wishing Joe luck as she leaves.

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It's gotta suck getting in on bitcoin
so late, don't it. Though.

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Millie questions how Joe could deal that
poor girl's savings, but Joe tells her

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he wasn't going to steal it,
as he intended to pay her back double.

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But Millie isn't buying it, calling
another one of Joe's monkey dreams,

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and that is how we find out
what monkey dreams are. Well, we

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hint tad more very soon. So
Joe questions monkey dreams, and Millie tells

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Joe about a story their mother used
to tell them of a monkey who wanted

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to be king but lost everything,
adding that whenever him or their father would

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come up with a scheme. She'd
point and say, monkey dreams, and

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that's why he hit her. That's
what probably not wrong. The moral of

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the story is mind your monkey dreams. Goddamn right, goddamn right, all

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right, no, no, David, I'm proud of you. Millie asked

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Joe why he just can't accept the
things the way they are, and then

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goes on to tell him she can't
keep helping him with these issues, and

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Joe sarcastically says, well, when
they kill me soon, you won't have

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to worry about it. Millie bins
down did and tries to tell him she

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cannot be a part of this anymore, even though their family. She tells

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him that if he wants to change, it's on him, because she's wanting

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a life of her own and is
tired of sacrificing it for him. She

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kisses Joe's head and goes to leave. When the computers suddenly begin to beep.

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Joe states he's getting something from the
signal as he sits down, shouting

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it's real, and begins to celebrate
in his office as the computer reads that

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is no known Earth signal. Millie
puts her head in her hands and looks

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over at Joe with sadness as she's
seeing him repeat behavior. We next see

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the two sitting down going over the
details as Joe explains the code is so

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sophisticated, he's going to need Millie's
help with her computer knowledge. And before

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we go on, yes, was
I imagining that their brothers sister relationship seems

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highly inappropriate? Oh boy? Okay, good? Yeah, I was so

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so full disclosure. I believe that
it's very important. Like if you say

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tell people a stock is valuable,
you have to disclose if you were involved

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in the company her own stock yourself. So full disclosure. Yeah, I

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watched this episode while also violently eating
a hothead burrito. Okay, I don't

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know how that applies to importance,
but no, I just remember one point,

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like watching it and being like they're
acting a little close, especially the

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end of this a story which we'll
get to. Yeah, so Joe kisses

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her, calling her the best sister, or Millie agree is stating she will

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try to take some time, but
she's not quitting her job. Joe kisses

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her, calling her the best sister
in the world, and Millie questions about

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the loan shark and collecting the money
Joe admits he forgot about that as he

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watches his face, then states that
he's got nothing to worry about. He

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turns back to see Millie has now
vanished and is calling out to Joe for

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help. He goes into the hall
to find Barney with a gun at Milly's

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head, dragging her back and telling
Joe he needs to pay the money back.

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Joe freaks out as he watches Barney
drag her through the hall doors,

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with one slamming right onto Milly's hand, causing her to scream and blood to

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start coming out of the wound.
Joe suddenly comes to it to sink,

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still washing his face, but catches
Millie at the door. He questions where

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she's going, and Millie informs him
to the bath room. Unless he thinks

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that's too much alone time or too
much alone times a security risk. Joe

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apologizes and lets Milly go and sits
back down looking over the transmissions. Barney

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sneaks up, putting his hand on
Joe's shoulder and ask where the money is.

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Joe tells him to give him three
days as he's got something big in

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the works, but Barney isn't going
forward. That wasn't a type of he

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didn't ask where the monkey is?
Did he? No, he did not

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ask where the monkey is? Are
you sure? Because there's a monkey and

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I want to get back to it. Gets to the monkey. I promise,

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you promise, swear, swear a
cross your heart, hope to die,

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stick a needle in my eyes,
shake but bottom if I got him?

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Okay, you got this? Got
weird? Go on? Joe asked

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for twenty four hours instead, and
Barney asked him if he promises that he'll

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have the money. Joe agrees,
and Barney grips Joe's risk with both hands,

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stating he believes in keeping promises,
so this time Joe is going to

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have to endure pain as he begins
to bend Joe's wrist and he begs in

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pain for him to stop, but
Joe is then dropped to the floor.

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The next day, Joe sit at
his sits at his desk with a brace

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on his risk. As Millie enters
with breakfast, Joe tells her the coding

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has gotten a little difficult, but
if they can crack the sequence, they'll

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be in business. His buddy at
the private sector said that if they can

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crack the code, they're looking at
a six figure grant, and if he

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can fax the combination in twenty four
hours, he'll get thirty thousand dollars tomorrow.

404
00:26:10.880 --> 00:26:14.559
How stingy are these grants? Yeah, it's like, okay, so

405
00:26:14.839 --> 00:26:19.359
your laboratory appears to I congratulations for
this. Your laboratory appears to have not

406
00:26:19.480 --> 00:26:25.680
only in anticipated alien contact, but
also figured out what they were trying to

407
00:26:25.680 --> 00:26:29.519
say, breaking their communication of an
a language impossible for us to average decipher.

408
00:26:29.640 --> 00:26:32.559
So I don't know, two unter
grant. I would also like to

409
00:26:32.559 --> 00:26:34.640
point out, thirty thousand is exactly
what he owes, and that's exactly what

410
00:26:34.680 --> 00:26:38.880
they're telling him for just the piece
of paper. Well, it's a good

411
00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:42.000
round number, David, you're trying
to say, Yeah, what do you

412
00:26:42.039 --> 00:26:45.480
try to say? So he tells
Billy he's got it handled and she can

413
00:26:45.559 --> 00:26:48.960
return to her job so she doesn't
lose it. But Milly hesitates, questioning

414
00:26:48.960 --> 00:26:52.440
if Joe is telling her the whole
truth, stating he's never shown concern for

415
00:26:52.480 --> 00:26:56.759
her well being, and then a
Joe is afraid Barney will return before he

416
00:26:56.799 --> 00:27:00.359
can break the code. She questions
what the doctor said about hand, and

417
00:27:00.440 --> 00:27:03.480
Joe tells her he'll be fine.
Milly offers to call the police, but

418
00:27:03.559 --> 00:27:06.400
Joe tells her that they will get
him, that it will get him killed

419
00:27:06.400 --> 00:27:08.400
and make things harder on him.
He begs her to do what he says,

420
00:27:08.440 --> 00:27:12.000
and Millie hesitantly agrees. Later,
Joe is sitting at the desk writing

421
00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:15.519
code when Barney enters. Joe swings
around in his chair with a pistol,

422
00:27:15.599 --> 00:27:19.839
greeting Barney and telling him to have
a seat. Barney tells Joe. Yeah.

423
00:27:19.880 --> 00:27:23.079
Barney tells Joe he's nuts, and
Joe says he was born in the

424
00:27:23.119 --> 00:27:29.440
wrong century. He should have been
a riverboat gambler. Yeah, yeah,

425
00:27:29.480 --> 00:27:32.680
that way, he would have been
shot like ten years earlier. Yeah,

426
00:27:33.519 --> 00:27:37.440
yeah, that too. But Barney
fire's back, calling him a born loser,

427
00:27:37.519 --> 00:27:41.119
saying he's gonna die that way.
Joe crazily shakes the gun, telling

428
00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:44.920
him he's gonna crack the code and
win the big jackpot, and he would

429
00:27:44.960 --> 00:27:48.440
just love for Barney to give him
some trouble. I appreciate you being specific

430
00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:52.079
that it was crazily. Yeah,
crazily, thank you. Jeannie suddenly enters

431
00:27:52.119 --> 00:27:56.119
unannounced, and Joe quickly hides the
gun, telling her to come back later.

432
00:27:56.400 --> 00:27:59.240
Jeanie tries to explain her reason for
barging in, but Joe tells her

433
00:27:59.319 --> 00:28:02.240
later. As she eves shutting the
door, he jokes to Barney, it's

434
00:28:02.240 --> 00:28:04.279
a shame she wasn't on his lap, as that would make the scenario complete.

435
00:28:06.359 --> 00:28:11.960
His sister. That's not a sister's
ape lady. Oh, there's a

436
00:28:12.759 --> 00:28:18.359
chimp lady. There's a half lady
half chimp on the show, the one

437
00:28:18.400 --> 00:28:21.119
that handles Winston, which we'll get
too in the B story. Wait wait,

438
00:28:21.119 --> 00:28:23.920
wait is Winston and euphemism? No, oh, David, you are

439
00:28:25.119 --> 00:28:27.160
losing. No. I think you
were just focused more on that head burrito

440
00:28:27.200 --> 00:28:33.119
than you were the episode. How
fucking dare you? No, No,

441
00:28:33.279 --> 00:28:36.680
we're out of here. So Joe
goes to type code, but is informed

442
00:28:36.680 --> 00:28:38.799
that the computer had a glitch in
the mainframe and has linked together with another

443
00:28:38.799 --> 00:28:42.519
computer in her office, Jeanie is
playing with a dog who got loose from

444
00:28:42.519 --> 00:28:45.200
his crate. She puts the dog
back, praising him, and back in

445
00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:48.880
his office, Joe is trying to
get his computer back online, but is

446
00:28:48.920 --> 00:28:52.160
now connected to the animal research lab
instead, unaware that behind him, Barney

447
00:28:52.240 --> 00:28:56.279
is drawing his pistol from his jacket
slowly in Genie's office, it's revealed that

448
00:28:56.319 --> 00:29:00.599
Winston the Chimp has gotten onto the
research computer and typed his name out.

449
00:29:02.000 --> 00:29:04.000
Suddenly, a shot rings through the
office as we see Joe go down in

450
00:29:04.039 --> 00:29:07.920
his desk, shot in the back
with blood pouring down his coat. We

451
00:29:07.960 --> 00:29:11.599
then see a dream vision of Joe
recouping on a couch as Millie brings him

452
00:29:11.599 --> 00:29:15.200
food of course yes. He then
tells her he's doing a lot better and

453
00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:18.319
plans to return to work. Millie
tells him what the rush now with the

454
00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:22.319
aliens turned out to be a Winston
trying to type on the computer. He

455
00:29:22.359 --> 00:29:26.279
informs her that Jeanie and Lynch came
by, claiming his language software turns out

456
00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:29.480
to be a great way to communicate
with primates, and they're taking the studies

457
00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:33.799
to Africa. And you'd think that
that alone would be an insane discovery,

458
00:29:33.880 --> 00:29:37.279
you would think. But it gets
better because Milly congratulates him, and Joe

459
00:29:37.319 --> 00:29:40.680
shows her a treasure map he found
as well, saying that they're gonna be

460
00:29:40.799 --> 00:29:44.400
rich. Joe tells her there's one
more thing as he as his head begins

461
00:29:44.400 --> 00:29:48.440
to convulse in the dream as he
states there's no time we cut back to

462
00:29:48.519 --> 00:29:52.680
reality to see that Joe is passing
away from the gunshot at his desk.

463
00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:56.839
Now, going back to what you
were saying about the inappropriate relationship in this

464
00:29:56.960 --> 00:30:00.720
dream, she comes to him as
he's sitting on a with his with the

465
00:30:00.759 --> 00:30:03.079
shirt unbutton and like a bandage around
him, and like he kisses on the

466
00:30:03.079 --> 00:30:07.359
top of her head, and like
she begins to stroke his chest. Yes,

467
00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:11.680
that was really weird, a little
a little bit. Yeah, So

468
00:30:11.799 --> 00:30:15.039
suddenly we are in Freddie's domain as
we are in a close up with Freddy

469
00:30:15.160 --> 00:30:18.119
stating, wait, kitties, our
story here has a happy ending. Joe

470
00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:22.079
got a grant to see how fast
the worms could eat through his body.

471
00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:26.640
I crack myself up, which I
mean he does. He does. But

472
00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:30.039
that's the end of the A story. And Henrick, would you like to

473
00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:33.480
explain the difference of the A story
and B story and Freddy's Nightmares? Well,

474
00:30:33.519 --> 00:30:37.319
you see, Freddy's Nightmares has an
A story and a B story.

475
00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:40.279
And I'm sure many of you out
there are extra clever, and you're like,

476
00:30:40.319 --> 00:30:41.440
well, I know what an A
story and a B story as well?

477
00:30:41.559 --> 00:30:45.880
Yeah, don't. Well, unless
you've listened to the previous thirty episodes

478
00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:48.880
of the show. So on Freddie's
Nightmares, they did the A story and

479
00:30:48.920 --> 00:30:53.119
B story very different. There's a
split down the middle. The first half

480
00:30:53.160 --> 00:30:56.359
of the shows the A story,
second half is the B story. And

481
00:30:56.440 --> 00:31:00.720
sometimes they're very very mildly connected.
Yeah, not always, but often.

482
00:31:02.000 --> 00:31:06.480
In this episode, per se,
they are connected in that it stays in

483
00:31:06.519 --> 00:31:10.960
the laboratory and keeps the side characters
is now the main characters. And the

484
00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:15.119
reason they did this is very simple
money. Yeah, so that they could

485
00:31:15.240 --> 00:31:18.400
they could have a television program that
would syndicate either on a half an hour

486
00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:22.920
slot or a one hour slot.
And that's one thing that us Freddie's Nightmares

487
00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:26.920
fans get to enjoy that others did
not necessarily, which is we guarantee to

488
00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:32.000
see every episode as it was intended, absolutely at least somewhat. Yeah.

489
00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:36.599
So the B story begins back in
the Springwood Animal Research Lab as Genie is

490
00:31:36.640 --> 00:31:40.119
fighting with doctor Lynch regarding the well
being on Winston. As she argues they

491
00:31:40.160 --> 00:31:44.240
are close to a breakthrough. Lynch
states that she's got she's not thinking about

492
00:31:44.240 --> 00:31:47.400
the research and she has hung up
on dreams. But dreams don't pay the

493
00:31:47.440 --> 00:31:51.759
bills. Grants do the money for
the research with Winston is exhausted, and

494
00:31:51.839 --> 00:31:56.279
the name of the game is grants, specifically cancer research. Genie reluctantly agrees

495
00:31:56.319 --> 00:31:59.440
to do the cancer research, but
becomes even more hesitant when she finds out

496
00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:02.599
that Lynch wants her to start with
a research on pain for cancer patients struggles,

497
00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:07.680
and with the testing of five different
categories on Winston. So, first

498
00:32:07.720 --> 00:32:09.599
of all, I love that.
I love that. Okay, So I

499
00:32:09.640 --> 00:32:12.759
love number one that she's like,
ah, when it's like we have to

500
00:32:12.759 --> 00:32:15.960
do cancer research, fALS She's like, ah, but I get it.

501
00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:19.039
You know, animal testing is ugly. Yes, I mean, there's no

502
00:32:19.079 --> 00:32:23.839
doubt, no, But I love
that. In Springwood, science is just

503
00:32:23.960 --> 00:32:28.359
like a blanket term. It really
is. It's like this one office that's

504
00:32:28.400 --> 00:32:35.400
managed by that one scientist does animal
trials, cancer, cancer treatment, testing

505
00:32:35.599 --> 00:32:40.279
their studies and stuff, and also
listens to space noise. Are not the

506
00:32:40.480 --> 00:32:45.839
same space of science, They're not
They're not no, no, no,

507
00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:50.440
Like like that's that's like that's like
going to a barber that can also do

508
00:32:50.519 --> 00:32:53.559
your vasectomy, and it's it's and
and you yeah, it's right because it's

509
00:32:53.559 --> 00:32:55.960
like, well, they all involved
numbers and scissors, right, you know.

510
00:32:57.839 --> 00:33:02.200
So I'm just saying, with what
a bustling economy Springwood is known to

511
00:33:02.240 --> 00:33:06.240
have, aside from all the people
who die in their sleep. That's the

512
00:33:06.279 --> 00:33:10.079
other thing. No sleep study are
going on in Springwood until Weston Hills,

513
00:33:10.240 --> 00:33:15.119
which wow, it comes later.
Well, that's study in a different that's

514
00:33:15.119 --> 00:33:19.559
not a laboratory study though, that's
that's that's a Freddy's or Freddie versus Jason

515
00:33:19.599 --> 00:33:25.359
reference. Kids, No it is. I was just thinking I haven't watched

516
00:33:25.359 --> 00:33:30.200
Phrazy Freddy Versus Jason a while.
Yeah, so five different categories of pain

517
00:33:30.279 --> 00:33:35.160
on Winston. Genie sees no value
in causing Winston pain as he's a as

518
00:33:35.200 --> 00:33:37.000
he's a bean too, but Lynch
doesn't want to hear it. The two

519
00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:40.119
begin to argue, but are interrupted
as two men enter the office. One

520
00:33:40.160 --> 00:33:45.279
introduces himself as Bobcatlan. He is
played by Rick Dano, who was in

521
00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:49.400
Big Bad Mama and seventy four,
Yes, Splash in eighty four, Flight

522
00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:52.279
of the Intruder in ninety one,
Speed in ninety four, and has also

523
00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:55.799
appeared on Supernatural in two thousand and
five. He says he's from the Science

524
00:33:57.200 --> 00:34:01.079
Scientific Discoveries magazine Genie confirms they spoke
on the phone, stating that Bob is

525
00:34:01.119 --> 00:34:05.599
going to interview Lynch. They're doing
an article on studies in the lab and

526
00:34:05.640 --> 00:34:08.039
the process it takes to reach the
patient. But Lynch is clearly hesitant still

527
00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:12.519
hearing this, stating he's not familiar
with their publication. And the first thought

528
00:34:12.519 --> 00:34:14.960
I had, by the way,
yeah, when he was like, I'm

529
00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:19.199
not familiar with the publication was corporate
espionage. I immediately was like, they're

530
00:34:19.239 --> 00:34:22.360
from a rival laboratory, or a
rival drug company, or a rival something

531
00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:27.199
or other. Yeah, they're gonna
steal some secrets. That would be nice.

532
00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:30.239
And of course, as they pulled
into Springwood to like break in,

533
00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:32.119
just imagine whether they're like, they're
like, all right, it says,

534
00:34:34.199 --> 00:34:37.960
turn at the cemetery. Oh you
missed it. Oh wait, no there's

535
00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:43.599
one wait wait wait, we need
to make a u oh waitute at this

536
00:34:43.599 --> 00:34:49.159
one. No, we'll turn it
at the Oh my god, there's a

537
00:34:49.239 --> 00:34:52.119
schoold speed limit. There aren't even
many kids here anymore. Come on,

538
00:34:53.119 --> 00:34:58.800
imagine not knowing the area. That
is very true. So he throws them

539
00:34:58.840 --> 00:35:01.840
out. When Bob's cameram begins to
snap pictures, Denie questions his attitude towards

540
00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:05.800
them, and Lynch states they know
nothing about them and for all they know,

541
00:35:05.920 --> 00:35:08.280
they could be with an animal rights
group. He then tells Genie they

542
00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:12.519
can't be too careful and they might
try to steal the animals, and Genie,

543
00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:15.199
under her breath mutters, might not
be such a bad idea. WHOA,

544
00:35:15.400 --> 00:35:20.000
Now I love that. My first
instinct was corporate espionage. But no,

545
00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:22.960
no, no pet people for the
ethicade, but of something or other

546
00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:28.880
but no. Yeah, so what
we're about to do and I want this

547
00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:30.760
to be clear to the listeners,
Yes, and the people. I forgot

548
00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:34.199
to mention that at the beginning of
the show for the people watching, which

549
00:35:34.199 --> 00:35:37.519
if you want to watch the podcast, Hi mom, If you want to

550
00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:39.440
watch the podcast, you can go
to Freddie's Nightmares dot com, click on

551
00:35:39.519 --> 00:35:44.400
Patreon at the three dollar and higher
tier. Not only do you guarantee the

552
00:35:44.400 --> 00:35:49.360
show keeps on going, but you
get to see the episodes in video and

553
00:35:49.599 --> 00:35:52.199
a day early. You get to
see them on Monday's instead of Tuesdays.

554
00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:54.440
But that all being said, this
episode is about to take a turn.

555
00:35:54.760 --> 00:36:02.039
Yeah, talking about animal testing for
science. Yeah, And I will say

556
00:36:02.800 --> 00:36:08.599
the only misstep I felt like this
show took was that they made it.

557
00:36:08.599 --> 00:36:14.239
It's still cruel, but I think
it would have been smarter if they had

558
00:36:14.239 --> 00:36:17.440
made it that they were like testing
perfume and cosmetics. That's always been the

559
00:36:17.440 --> 00:36:22.880
one where it's like, really evil
is that? Because like, I love

560
00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:27.199
animals as much as anybody else,
But I understand why they test on animals

561
00:36:27.239 --> 00:36:30.639
to make life saving medicine. I
understand. I understand how you can justify

562
00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:35.960
it, but when it comes to, you know, lip gloss, it's

563
00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:37.360
like, really, you've got to
shave rabbits and make them live in a

564
00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:40.159
tiny cage in order to make sure
the lip gloss is good enough. This

565
00:36:40.199 --> 00:36:43.519
is true, Like, come on. So that was the only misstep I

566
00:36:43.519 --> 00:36:45.280
thought on this episode was I was
like, huh, it's kind of an

567
00:36:45.320 --> 00:36:49.039
interesting choice that they're doing. I
mean, but granted, it's like the

568
00:36:49.079 --> 00:36:52.719
most cruel thing ever where it's it's
like, it's to help cancer patients manage

569
00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:55.760
pain by inflicting pain on a chimpanzee. So it's pretty mean. But I

570
00:36:55.840 --> 00:36:59.599
just want to mention that, like, this episode's taken quite the turn that

571
00:36:59.639 --> 00:37:01.480
I did coming yeah, and I
want and we'll talk about it more at

572
00:37:01.519 --> 00:37:06.119
the end to you. But the
one I've loved, especially with the the

573
00:37:06.280 --> 00:37:10.840
non Freddie episodes, a lot of
them morality questioning. They're they're heavy on

574
00:37:10.920 --> 00:37:16.199
it on all facets. Well,
the nineties was the era of like stop

575
00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:21.880
animal testing, I mean mainstream,
like stop animal testing. And then it

576
00:37:21.920 --> 00:37:23.880
was and you know, stop using
aerosol cans, you're killing the ozone layer,

577
00:37:24.119 --> 00:37:28.800
Stop buying minute made of orange juice, you're destroying the rainforest. It

578
00:37:28.840 --> 00:37:36.360
was a very flaky environmental era.
Yeah, and we had Captain Planet was

579
00:37:36.360 --> 00:37:40.119
on TV for goodness sake. So
and and I'm not making any judgments about

580
00:37:40.159 --> 00:37:44.400
those points. Most of them have
good points. My point is that it

581
00:37:44.440 --> 00:37:49.000
was just everywhere. The messaging was
everywhere. It was the biggest text next

582
00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:52.360
to the name of your Revlon makeup. I don't know if Revlon actually did

583
00:37:52.360 --> 00:37:55.280
this, but of your makeup was
that it said not tested on animals.

584
00:37:55.320 --> 00:38:00.440
Yeah, so we're heading into that
and this story. I mean, of

585
00:38:00.440 --> 00:38:02.840
course, I'm sure that's I'm sure
that started in California, way before it

586
00:38:02.960 --> 00:38:07.119
started the rest of the Credo.
Yeah, so I think this is kind

587
00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:10.000
of cool as a time capsule.
Yeah, So suddenly we cut to a

588
00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:14.599
closeup of Freddie in his domain,
dressed in surgeon attire, as he states,

589
00:38:14.920 --> 00:38:17.519
I don't need to experiment on no
dumb animals. I've been having such

590
00:38:17.599 --> 00:38:22.079
good results with. He begins to
snicker as the camera pulls back to reveal

591
00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:24.800
a human corpse on the table.
People. He laughs and clicks his claws

592
00:38:24.840 --> 00:38:29.440
on the body. Well, and
why wouldn't Why wouldn't he I wanted to

593
00:38:29.480 --> 00:38:31.559
recognize who the corpse was, but
I don't think it was anybody. I

594
00:38:31.599 --> 00:38:34.639
didn't recognize him, and I was
looking at him. I was like,

595
00:38:34.719 --> 00:38:37.840
yeah, well, with a mouthful
of hotead burrito. Of course they should

596
00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:42.559
really sponsor the show if I'm going
to talk about my delicious hot head burrito.

597
00:38:42.639 --> 00:38:45.000
That thereso that they brought back is
so freaking good. I mean you

598
00:38:45.039 --> 00:38:50.239
know that they didn't invent that,
right what they just buy it from?

599
00:38:50.280 --> 00:38:54.440
What Mexicans? I don't want anymore, man. I remember growing up eating

600
00:38:54.440 --> 00:38:58.480
Theresa, and people were just like, what you introduced me to the good

601
00:38:58.480 --> 00:39:00.679
ship? Did I know? Yeah? Good? Good? No, that's

602
00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:04.199
well, that's I feel like that's
the way it goes with all Mexican food,

603
00:39:04.280 --> 00:39:07.800
and like in Hispanic food and you
admise friendship as it's like it's like,

604
00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:09.440
I know you like like the rice
you get the restaurant, but try

605
00:39:09.480 --> 00:39:13.960
this stuff on me and you're just
like, oh my god. But but

606
00:39:14.039 --> 00:39:16.880
no, no TREESO. I just
remember, I remember the funniest memory of

607
00:39:16.920 --> 00:39:22.800
my entire childhood was eating guacamole when
no one knew what it was God,

608
00:39:23.000 --> 00:39:28.639
So people would literally be mortified because
it looked like green slime. It's like,

609
00:39:28.840 --> 00:39:31.599
oh, green slime. But they'd
be like, oh my god,

610
00:39:31.639 --> 00:39:35.199
what are you eating? And then
it's like, well, now all the

611
00:39:35.239 --> 00:39:39.480
soccer moms eat that on their toasts. So back in the lab, we

612
00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:43.840
join Lynch walking the hall as a
frenzy appears to be taking place in the

613
00:39:43.840 --> 00:39:46.639
halls, with all the lights swinging, plus jungle drums and animal sounds audible

614
00:39:46.679 --> 00:39:50.840
through the hallways. A figure with
a bow and arrow jumps from corridor to

615
00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:53.360
corridor behind Lynch without his realization.
He makes his way down the hall,

616
00:39:53.360 --> 00:39:58.440
coming across graffiti on the wall that
reads free the Animals on it. Suddenly,

617
00:39:58.480 --> 00:40:00.559
the mysterious figure at the end of
the hall raises a rifle and fires

618
00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:05.320
at Lynch but misses. Lynch ducks
down to find a huge envelope stuff with

619
00:40:05.360 --> 00:40:07.800
cash, reading animal research grants on
it. He reaches for it, but

620
00:40:07.840 --> 00:40:12.960
the envelope keeps getting pulled away from
him, classic until finally it goes into

621
00:40:13.000 --> 00:40:15.039
a dark room where he enters,
and we hear his screams and find Lynch

622
00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:19.519
with his heads stuck in an animal
traps, surrounded by the money. Two

623
00:40:19.559 --> 00:40:22.880
figures dress like tribal warriors tell him
he's not going to profit from the porch

624
00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:24.800
Chimp's agony, and one of the
ones turns out to be Bob Katlan.

625
00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:30.360
That part was really weird to me. Yeah, they're just like, I

626
00:40:30.400 --> 00:40:32.519
mean, it's his dream. Yeah, So I'm not going to say that

627
00:40:32.599 --> 00:40:39.239
it's it's horrible that they were dressed
in like super racist like Amazon rainforest yet

628
00:40:39.239 --> 00:40:43.000
because it's a nightmare. But it
was not. It was not so much

629
00:40:43.039 --> 00:40:47.480
that they were like that as it
was why why it was an interesting choice

630
00:40:47.480 --> 00:40:53.000
and it's not the first time or
the last. Well spoilers, So we

631
00:40:53.079 --> 00:40:55.880
find Lynch with his heads stuck in
an animal trap, surrounded by the money.

632
00:40:55.920 --> 00:40:59.400
The two figures dressed like tribal warriors
tell him he's not going to profit

633
00:40:59.480 --> 00:41:01.239
off that porch. Jim's agony.
Lynch cries out for help, but comes

634
00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:05.840
to in a chair, revealing it
all to be a nightmare. Wait wait,

635
00:41:05.840 --> 00:41:08.679
wait, wait wait on Elm Street. On Elm Street, or well

636
00:41:08.920 --> 00:41:14.880
adjacent, run from a nightmare A
Jason on Elm Street the night. The

637
00:41:14.920 --> 00:41:17.320
next morning, in the lab,
Lynch and Jeannie look over the dog from

638
00:41:17.320 --> 00:41:21.599
the A story as he comments they
need to increase the animal's stress level by

639
00:41:21.599 --> 00:41:24.000
twenty percent. He yawns, and
Jennie asked him if he's still sleeping at

640
00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:27.679
the lab, and Lynch confirms since
the separation of him and his wife,

641
00:41:27.719 --> 00:41:30.840
he hasn't found a new place,
and with the possible reporters sneaking around,

642
00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:36.079
it's best he stayed with the animals. That's sad. That is so sad.

643
00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:40.159
And it's in Passing super Passing only
time it's mentioned. Yeah, it's

644
00:41:40.199 --> 00:41:45.199
like it's like if they if they
mentioned in passing that his wife died slowly

645
00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:50.800
of cancer, like just in like
seven sentences or seven words, just like,

646
00:41:50.960 --> 00:41:52.880
well you ever since my wife died
of cancer, which, by the

647
00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:54.760
way, he's bankrupting us, bankrupted
us, I've just yeah, I've been

648
00:41:54.800 --> 00:41:58.400
doing this and you're like okay,
cool. Anyway, I'm gonna talk about

649
00:41:58.400 --> 00:42:00.199
my day now. So Jennie asked
if they have been back through, referring

650
00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:04.079
to the reporters, and Lynch says
they have not. Until further notice,

651
00:42:04.079 --> 00:42:06.840
she is not to speak to anyone
until he can check them out. He

652
00:42:06.880 --> 00:42:09.559
asked Genie to bring Winston to an
observation table and readies the machine with a

653
00:42:09.559 --> 00:42:13.920
shocking headband on it as he begins
the pain test. No no, as

654
00:42:13.960 --> 00:42:22.960
he begins to shock the mokay,
which this cocks that. By the way,

655
00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:25.719
that video is on the Freddie Video
Hour. It is yeah, it

656
00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:31.599
closes out the hour out and now
we're gonna shock the monkey, which when

657
00:42:31.599 --> 00:42:37.239
I was a kid meant something very
different. So Winston, obviously in pain,

658
00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:40.360
begins to stress Genie out as she
covers her ears behind her X ray

659
00:42:40.400 --> 00:42:45.760
machine surge from the electricity. The
next day, Bob finds Jeannie walking outside

660
00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:47.760
the lab. She bluntly asked what
he wants, and Bob states that he

661
00:42:47.800 --> 00:42:52.239
wants to get access with her to
help interview doctor Lynch. She tells him

662
00:42:52.280 --> 00:42:54.880
she can't because she's decided that she's
not returning to the lab. Bob asked

663
00:42:54.960 --> 00:43:00.320
why and Genie tells him about Lynch
experimenting on Winston and the pain he's receiving.

664
00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:02.480
Bob tells her that she can't just
do nothing, and she shouldn't be

665
00:43:02.519 --> 00:43:06.440
a part of and shouldn't she be
a part of something to stop it.

666
00:43:06.840 --> 00:43:09.079
His words make Jennie realize that he
is an activist, and he replies back

667
00:43:09.119 --> 00:43:14.599
that he she has to do something, something, something that's my favorite,

668
00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:20.280
like rioling call. Yeah, we
have to do something. I'm like perfect,

669
00:43:20.440 --> 00:43:22.480
Let's let's go. He asked for
a key to the lab, but

670
00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:27.320
Jennie refuses as she doesn't like the
other side, which stops important research from

671
00:43:27.320 --> 00:43:30.639
taking place. But Bob asks if
she truly believes that science can't proceed without

672
00:43:30.679 --> 00:43:34.800
torturing animals. Back in the lab, Lynch's phone rings, and he gets

673
00:43:34.800 --> 00:43:38.079
a call from a source confirming that
Kaplan and his assistant do not have a

674
00:43:38.119 --> 00:43:40.920
magazine and are, in fact and
have been, in fact, arrested for

675
00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:45.039
breaking into test facilities. He hangs
up and receives the facts with Kaplan's mug

676
00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:49.480
shot, which he immediately takes a
Genie along with some flowers. Bob comes

677
00:43:49.480 --> 00:43:52.000
from around the corner at Jennie's house
and Lynch realizes she's with him, which

678
00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:55.719
angers Lynch as he walks off,
stating that that's why she's not returning to

679
00:43:55.719 --> 00:43:59.760
the lab. And for the record, he walks up to her door wearing

680
00:43:59.800 --> 00:44:06.159
his is like glasses and carrying a
bouquet of flowers and honestly, even by

681
00:44:06.599 --> 00:44:13.000
scientist standards, he looked like a
melbow. Wow. So back in the

682
00:44:13.079 --> 00:44:15.039
lab, Lynch settles in for an
evening, turning off the lights and sitting

683
00:44:15.039 --> 00:44:17.440
down at his desk. He sits
back in his chair with a yawn and

684
00:44:17.519 --> 00:44:21.039
drifts off to sleep. Which,
let's stop for a second. He's sleeping

685
00:44:21.079 --> 00:44:24.320
in the most uncomfortable office chair I've
seen. Well, I mean, I

686
00:44:24.360 --> 00:44:30.559
guess he's assuming the research they do
on the monkeys will fill Yeah, because

687
00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:31.960
like later in the episode when he
goes to the couch, I was like,

688
00:44:32.159 --> 00:44:35.920
why isn't he even sleeping on that? The entire time? It is

689
00:44:35.920 --> 00:44:38.000
funny. It's like, it's like, why are you sleeping sitting up in

690
00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:42.840
this rickety wooden chair when there's a
couch right next year And I'll tell you

691
00:44:42.840 --> 00:44:49.599
why, why that couch monkey.
He dreams that he's back at Jeanie's house

692
00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:52.880
as she's now rocking some big hair, and he tells her that she couldn't

693
00:44:52.880 --> 00:44:55.239
sleep, or that he couldn't sleep
and was thinking about how foolish he's been.

694
00:44:55.360 --> 00:45:01.000
Well, you mean he was all
like, hey, I can't sleep.

695
00:45:01.960 --> 00:45:07.559
Yeah, we're dead on there.
The two begin to kiss and embrace

696
00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:09.679
each other. Lynch comments that he's
dreamed of this, and Genie comments,

697
00:45:09.760 --> 00:45:14.440
even with his properness in the lab, she suspected he always had a deep

698
00:45:14.519 --> 00:45:19.599
desires underneath, which Lynch confirms.
She goes on to say deep animal desires

699
00:45:19.880 --> 00:45:22.440
as she takes her hands scratching three
bloody claw marks on Lynch's face? Is

700
00:45:22.440 --> 00:45:25.239
it four? Four? Oh?
Daily motion? Right? Daily motion?

701
00:45:25.360 --> 00:45:37.000
Spa so scratches four bloody claw marks
on his face and ask him, oh,

702
00:45:37.079 --> 00:45:40.320
poor baby, did the scratches hurt? She continues, that's too bad

703
00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:45.239
because it's only level one. Suddenly, Kaplan and his partner appear back in

704
00:45:45.280 --> 00:45:47.440
the tribal gear. As they hold
him down to the floor, Genie states

705
00:45:49.039 --> 00:45:52.679
I don't like you, and Lynch
ask why as he watches Genie transform into

706
00:45:52.679 --> 00:45:55.920
a creature with sharp teeth and claws
as she bends down, stating because realizing

707
00:45:57.079 --> 00:46:00.400
I'm one of them now bearing her
teeth at Lynch. Lynch come back to

708
00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:02.559
at his desk, and it was
another nightmare, and he hears Winston in

709
00:46:02.559 --> 00:46:06.639
the other room making a racket in
his cage. Lynch enters the lab,

710
00:46:06.719 --> 00:46:08.360
walking up to the cage. Now
before you get to what's happening in the

711
00:46:08.360 --> 00:46:13.360
cage, Yes, when she turned
into a monster, Yeah, weirdly aroused.

712
00:46:13.440 --> 00:46:16.559
Yeah, I'm just I'm just keeping
it one hundred for full disclosure.

713
00:46:17.159 --> 00:46:22.840
I was very aroused while eating my
hothead burrito. At that moment, he

714
00:46:22.960 --> 00:46:27.000
throws the lab coat and supplies aside, wrecking the lab and laughing maniacally.

715
00:46:27.480 --> 00:46:30.519
The next morning, Lynch's cleaning up
the mess in the lab, telling security

716
00:46:30.519 --> 00:46:32.719
guard it was the Animal activists.
The guard asked if he can describe it,

717
00:46:32.760 --> 00:46:36.159
but Lynch says he can do him
one better, handing over the mug

718
00:46:36.159 --> 00:46:38.800
shot from the fax machine. Jeannie
and Lynch are walking outside together as she

719
00:46:38.840 --> 00:46:42.800
apologizes for the attack on the lab, stating that she had nothing to do

720
00:46:42.880 --> 00:46:45.880
with it, and Lynch reassures her
he knows that she didn't. Well,

721
00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:50.880
yeah, because he did it.
He just he's small letted. No,

722
00:46:50.960 --> 00:46:54.000
he totally did yeah yeah, never
never go full smallt. She questions why

723
00:46:54.039 --> 00:46:57.880
his dream about her was so filled
with hate, but Lynch states it's about

724
00:46:57.880 --> 00:47:00.559
the animal activist people. But Genie
states the dreams make him the victim and

725
00:47:00.599 --> 00:47:05.199
maybe he's starting to have emotions with
the animals in the lab. Whoa whoa,

726
00:47:05.320 --> 00:47:07.519
I hope she I hope. She
means that he's getting nicer and not

727
00:47:07.559 --> 00:47:15.639
getting a whole another c story.
At that pot, Lynch states that he's

728
00:47:15.679 --> 00:47:19.039
convinced they're about the activists, and
Jeannie tells him she wants to come back

729
00:47:19.079 --> 00:47:21.800
and she's sorry for letting her emotions
get the best of her. She really

730
00:47:21.800 --> 00:47:24.519
wants to continue her work with Winston. Lynch welcomes her back without hesitation.

731
00:47:24.679 --> 00:47:28.480
Back in the lab the next day, Jeannie is reunited with Winston and ask

732
00:47:28.599 --> 00:47:31.079
him how he is feeling guilty.
She tells him to communicate something to her

733
00:47:31.119 --> 00:47:35.159
so she can stop the pain,
which also allows Lynch to see the truth.

734
00:47:35.679 --> 00:47:37.679
Later that night, Lynch is back
in another nightmare, this time on

735
00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:42.000
the table in the lab as Kaplan
and his partner tell him it's time for

736
00:47:42.079 --> 00:47:44.840
Level five. As he's strapped down
to the table with the shocker on.

737
00:47:45.159 --> 00:47:50.199
I love how they look. They
just look so unwashed. It reminded me

738
00:47:50.280 --> 00:47:53.719
of the I think it's is it
Tarantino and Rainy that play the Orderlies in

739
00:47:54.000 --> 00:48:00.519
Eddie Pressley? It's Tarantino and Campbell? Is it okay, Bruce Campbell?

740
00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:06.199
They looked a little like that because
they looked I thought they looked like a

741
00:48:07.719 --> 00:48:10.280
cleanex. After Alice Cooper blows his
nose, Hey, now, oh,

742
00:48:10.280 --> 00:48:15.920
come on, that was funny about
Alice Cooper. No no, no,

743
00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:20.360
no, you mean about gam gam
Oh, Graham Graham. I hate you.

744
00:48:21.320 --> 00:48:23.480
It's not my fault. All rock
stars look like grandma's when they get

745
00:48:23.480 --> 00:48:28.360
older. Lynch tries to speak,
but only monkey sounds escape his lips.

746
00:48:28.719 --> 00:48:31.440
Kaplan tells him he's probably afraid of
Level five, as it's always inevitably leads

747
00:48:31.480 --> 00:48:36.039
to the subject dying. He and
his partner Sharyl laugh as they begin shocking

748
00:48:36.119 --> 00:48:38.440
Lynch, who only echoes more monkey
sounds as its inner monologue pleads, why

749
00:48:38.480 --> 00:48:43.000
don't they stop? Can't they hear
what I'm saying? Lynch comes back to

750
00:48:43.079 --> 00:48:45.480
in his chair with the phone ringing
him awake. He answers to hear that

751
00:48:45.559 --> 00:48:47.880
Officer Bart is telling him, Kaplan
and his partner have been caught in are

752
00:48:47.920 --> 00:48:52.480
in jail. Later, Lynch is
with Winston, telling him tomorrow it's level

753
00:48:52.519 --> 00:48:55.320
five and this is his last chance, before turning out the light and laying

754
00:48:55.360 --> 00:49:01.239
on his office couch. That's that
would sleep, You only get from laying

755
00:49:01.280 --> 00:49:07.360
on your office couch, which is
undoubtedly soiled by so many laboratory animals,

756
00:49:07.360 --> 00:49:13.920
but also maybe space research. Winston
makes a small bit of ruckets before laying

757
00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:17.360
down like Lynch and going to sleep. We see in Winston's dream Lynch walks

758
00:49:17.400 --> 00:49:20.920
up to the cage, asking him
how he's doing, before mocking him with

759
00:49:20.960 --> 00:49:23.800
a couple of monkey sounds. He
laughs and mocks Jeanie's belief of Winston having

760
00:49:23.880 --> 00:49:28.480
human traits before removing him from the
cage and moving to the table. He

761
00:49:28.519 --> 00:49:30.719
continues that Jeanie lives in the childish
world, but he and Winston live in

762
00:49:30.719 --> 00:49:35.000
the adult world, holding up the
shock band in front of him. Suddenly,

763
00:49:35.039 --> 00:49:38.480
Winston says friend, followed by monkey
sounds and repeats it again, causing

764
00:49:38.480 --> 00:49:43.880
a shocked Lynch to drop the band. He stares at Winston in disbelief,

765
00:49:43.920 --> 00:49:46.000
asking if he said friend, and
Winston says it again and whold on.

766
00:49:46.199 --> 00:49:51.800
But it needs to be mentioned that
it wasn't just It wasn't just like it,

767
00:49:51.880 --> 00:49:54.079
says friend. Yeah, it was
like the che It was this cheesy

768
00:49:54.159 --> 00:50:02.199
like Yeah it was. It was
sad, but it was so goofy cheesy.

769
00:50:02.360 --> 00:50:05.719
Yeah, the first time, the
first time, because it's about to

770
00:50:05.840 --> 00:50:08.440
not get funny. Nah. So
Lynch and disbeliefs, realizes the horror he's

771
00:50:08.440 --> 00:50:13.280
brought on him and confirms Genie was
right. He should be free. The

772
00:50:13.280 --> 00:50:15.559
next morning, a happy Lynch sits
on the couch whistling as Genie enters,

773
00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:19.719
commenting on his attitude. He says
he feels like a whole new man and

774
00:50:19.800 --> 00:50:22.159
Genie asked if it happen. Lynch
ask what, and Genie asked him if

775
00:50:22.199 --> 00:50:25.320
he dreamed about Winston, and Lynch
laughs that the reason he feels great is

776
00:50:25.320 --> 00:50:30.400
because he didn't have a dream about
Winston for once. This sadden's Genie's mood,

777
00:50:30.440 --> 00:50:34.039
and Lynch confirms his feelings haven't changed
and he's going to still experiment on

778
00:50:34.079 --> 00:50:37.239
Winston, especially now since the activist
people have been caught. Genie begs for

779
00:50:37.320 --> 00:50:40.639
Lynch to give her Winston, but
but he refuses, stating it would only

780
00:50:40.679 --> 00:50:44.840
just be another chimp or another animal, and this will never end if he

781
00:50:44.880 --> 00:50:47.719
does this. All in all,
it's just another chimp in the wall.

782
00:50:49.000 --> 00:50:52.920
Jennie suddenly sees his documentation about Level
five and Lynch tries to call him her,

783
00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:54.880
but Genie states she will stop him
if she has to, but Lynch

784
00:50:54.960 --> 00:50:59.719
calls security and has Genie removed from
the premises, barring her five hundred feet

785
00:50:59.760 --> 00:51:02.480
from the building. Jeannie gets drug
away, pleading for Lynch to set Winston

786
00:51:02.559 --> 00:51:07.199
free, but Lynch fires back that
the research is important and besides her and

787
00:51:07.280 --> 00:51:10.159
several other stupid activists, no one
would dream of letting him go free.

788
00:51:10.519 --> 00:51:15.280
We cut to a shot of Winston
going in close up as Lynch's words repeat,

789
00:51:15.400 --> 00:51:17.239
no one would dream of letting him
go free. We see shots of

790
00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:22.039
Winston's dream, of Lynch agreeing to
let him go free and repeating you should

791
00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:25.079
be free. No, No.
What we get revealed is that it wasn't

792
00:51:25.119 --> 00:51:31.199
lynch One dream, wasn't Lynch's dream, It was the monkey's Dreamston had the

793
00:51:31.280 --> 00:51:37.440
dream and then she did not.
And if that isn't a painful enough realization,

794
00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:42.920
Yeah, what's Freddie I have to
say about repeating you should be free.

795
00:51:42.920 --> 00:51:45.639
As Winston begins to repeat friend again, we cut to Freddie's domain where

796
00:51:45.639 --> 00:51:51.119
he's wearing a monkey mask and states, everybody dreams. He removes the mask,

797
00:51:51.159 --> 00:51:55.360
revealing his face and repeats everybody dreams
again. Then think about it,

798
00:51:57.159 --> 00:52:01.760
and that, my friends, is
the heartbreaking conclusion to season two, episode

799
00:52:01.840 --> 00:52:07.039
nine, Monkey Treams. So,
in case you are too kind of a

800
00:52:07.159 --> 00:52:13.719
human being to understand what happened the
nightmare where the monkey was able to make

801
00:52:13.800 --> 00:52:17.440
friends with the scientist who was going
to kill it for scientific experiments. Yeah,

802
00:52:19.280 --> 00:52:25.400
was the monkey's dream. Yes,
the monkeys hopeful dream and nightmare,

803
00:52:25.639 --> 00:52:31.639
Yeah, which might mean Freddie.
Freddie might have kind of like tormented that

804
00:52:31.679 --> 00:52:38.199
monkey's dream influenced Lynch tormented Winston.
My biggest issue is they don't shoot this

805
00:52:38.320 --> 00:52:43.360
friendly. It's all done through Winston's
POV. So the second time watching,

806
00:52:43.400 --> 00:52:45.760
when you know how it's gonna end, you're just like, this is this

807
00:52:45.840 --> 00:52:51.159
is so awful? Yeah, but
like it also is a great reminder of

808
00:52:51.199 --> 00:52:54.159
how we Freddy said it perfectly,
everything dreams. We don't even think about

809
00:52:54.199 --> 00:53:00.199
it in regards to animals in that
sense. And yet I'm sure, what

810
00:53:00.239 --> 00:53:04.119
did you have for dinner. I
didn't have dinner yet. Oh oh,

811
00:53:04.199 --> 00:53:06.719
you're expecting me to take care of
I was gonna get food after this,

812
00:53:06.760 --> 00:53:07.880
but that's besides the point. What
are you gonna have? You're gonna have

813
00:53:07.880 --> 00:53:10.679
a nice, big burger. I
wonder what that cow dreamt about thinking a

814
00:53:10.679 --> 00:53:16.760
burrito at Okay, I literally was
talking about that, Uh that had chicken

815
00:53:16.800 --> 00:53:20.199
head. Chickens are dumb. It's
fine, Oh god, no, so

816
00:53:21.119 --> 00:53:28.079
no, it's it's it's such a
heavy realization that this that that the nightmare

817
00:53:28.159 --> 00:53:30.159
was the chimps, because the chimp
was the one who was going to end

818
00:53:30.199 --> 00:53:35.239
up dead. Yeah. Uh.
And it's like when Freddie comes on,

819
00:53:35.280 --> 00:53:38.079
you're just like Freddy, come on, man too much. It's also worth

820
00:53:38.119 --> 00:53:45.519
mentioning. Yeah, both of Robert
England's stories, the title had a different

821
00:53:45.559 --> 00:53:49.159
meanating for the first segment in the
second because in Cabin Fever, the first

822
00:53:49.199 --> 00:53:52.559
segments in an airplane and the second
segments in a cabin in the woods,

823
00:53:52.079 --> 00:53:58.239
and on this one, Monkey Dreams
is a is symbolic. It's symbolic yeah,

824
00:53:58.280 --> 00:54:01.119
and then it's literal yes, which
I gotta say. I like that.

825
00:54:01.239 --> 00:54:05.239
I think that's really clever. I
just I really want to know why

826
00:54:05.480 --> 00:54:10.159
Freddy hates chimps, because clearly that's
what's going on here. I don't know,

827
00:54:10.280 --> 00:54:15.000
man, Honestly, I hope he
doesn't stop by to tell us.

828
00:54:15.039 --> 00:54:16.559
I'm pretty sure that's what I heard. I know, you know what.

829
00:54:16.679 --> 00:54:23.159
I could hear his footsteps. God, I want to give a piece of

830
00:54:23.159 --> 00:54:30.480
my mind. We'll see. Hey
Freddy, Hey Freddy, how are you?

831
00:54:30.519 --> 00:54:34.400
Guys? Do not not good?
We just we just finished Monkey Dreams.

832
00:54:34.679 --> 00:54:37.360
You remember that episode? Oh?
I love that stuff? You do

833
00:54:37.440 --> 00:54:42.239
you monkey bread? Right? No, Freddy, Actually I really like my

834
00:54:42.800 --> 00:54:45.599
bread too. But this is this
is your show, Freddie's Nightmares season two.

835
00:54:45.679 --> 00:54:52.320
Oh what about it? You tormented
a poor chimp with dreams of hopeful

836
00:54:52.360 --> 00:54:55.079
freedom and then completely let us,
as the audience, live with the fact

837
00:54:55.119 --> 00:55:00.239
that he's probably gonna die. Oh
hold on, all right, all right.

838
00:55:00.760 --> 00:55:05.320
I would not support anything going on
in that laboratory, and I'm gonna

839
00:55:05.320 --> 00:55:14.800
tell you right now there was definitely
some monkey business going on there. I

840
00:55:14.960 --> 00:55:21.960
walked right into that one. I
don't know though. These kinds of experiments,

841
00:55:21.960 --> 00:55:27.159
though they really are pretty questionable,
gets kind of hairy to me.

842
00:55:28.639 --> 00:55:32.000
Really, Freddie, you know there
there's real suffering. Right, Oh yeah,

843
00:55:32.039 --> 00:55:37.400
I do. Oh, I guess
we keep forgetting You're like legitimately evil.

844
00:55:37.480 --> 00:55:40.760
Yeah, I'm like the embodiment of
evil. I mean that's fair.

845
00:55:42.920 --> 00:55:45.800
Well, still, Freddy, this
one was pretty heavy compared to a lot

846
00:55:45.800 --> 00:55:49.000
of the other episodes. And then
he tries to fix it with an ape

847
00:55:49.000 --> 00:55:52.679
mask. Yeah, and then you
put on an ape mask basically, like

848
00:55:52.400 --> 00:55:57.960
what were you thinking? Oh my
gosh, it was just a TV show.

849
00:55:58.199 --> 00:56:09.800
There's no need to go wow,
Freddie, do you have anything else

850
00:56:09.840 --> 00:56:16.440
to say? Freddy? We're spitting
your burrito, you motherfucker. That's rude.

851
00:56:16.519 --> 00:56:21.320
He knows, he knows that he
cannot mess with my brito. That's

852
00:56:21.440 --> 00:56:23.880
rude. He knows he cannot.
That's rude. You do not mess with

853
00:56:23.960 --> 00:56:28.239
a man named Enriquez burrito. He
should know that. Oh my gosh,

854
00:56:28.280 --> 00:56:30.960
really did? Do you feel like
you got the answers you were hoping for

855
00:56:31.000 --> 00:56:34.480
because you're the one who said his
name like four times. I feel like

856
00:56:34.559 --> 00:56:37.639
I got the answers that I expected, not the ones I wanted. So

857
00:56:37.880 --> 00:56:40.159
you got the answers you deserve,
not the answers, not the not the

858
00:56:40.159 --> 00:56:44.760
answers you wanted, not the answers
wanted, not the answer Gotham wanted.

859
00:56:44.880 --> 00:56:50.159
So I'll start with a rating here. Okay, this, so we've had

860
00:56:50.199 --> 00:56:53.960
two heavy episodes a row in a
row now and you don't say because bloodlines

861
00:56:54.039 --> 00:57:00.079
last week with the wonderful family drama, that's one way to determine it.

862
00:57:00.039 --> 00:57:05.039
And then this week you get to
question your morality about animal testing. And

863
00:57:06.159 --> 00:57:08.599
to be perfectly honest, the B
story by far is the winner of this

864
00:57:08.639 --> 00:57:13.320
episode. I really, I didn't
really care much for the for the A

865
00:57:13.440 --> 00:57:17.000
story and for it to be a
direct sequel to Memory Overload, which I

866
00:57:17.039 --> 00:57:22.599
really did dig and felt pretty weak. Yeah, I can't lie. While

867
00:57:22.639 --> 00:57:25.880
I don't think this one was bad, this was definitely until that ending.

868
00:57:27.000 --> 00:57:30.800
Yeah, it was definitely kind of
on the weaker side of the second season.

869
00:57:30.480 --> 00:57:34.360
Yeah, but overall, I'm gonna
give this. I think this is

870
00:57:34.400 --> 00:57:37.719
a solid C. Maybe maybe actually
a C plus. I'll give this a

871
00:57:37.719 --> 00:57:42.920
solid C plus. The points I'll
take away from it is I didn't,

872
00:57:42.960 --> 00:57:45.079
like I said, the A story
didn't really grab me much. It was

873
00:57:45.239 --> 00:57:49.400
kind of a little bit all over
the place for emotion because the A story

874
00:57:49.480 --> 00:57:52.400
was so silly, it felt like, and then the B story was just

875
00:57:52.760 --> 00:57:55.320
serious as a heart attack and also
made you kind of remember that time when

876
00:57:55.360 --> 00:57:59.800
animal testing was very, very debated, even more so than today. Yeah,

877
00:57:59.800 --> 00:58:02.719
I mean it was. It was
a heavy subject back then. No,

878
00:58:02.840 --> 00:58:07.119
I'm gonna have to agree. I
was actually going to give it a

879
00:58:07.119 --> 00:58:12.199
cy just to see. And it's
funny. I'm honestly shocked with how people

880
00:58:12.679 --> 00:58:15.440
with how people talk about Freddy's nightmares. Yes, I really thought we'd be

881
00:58:15.480 --> 00:58:21.320
having d's yeah, maybe even fea, but instead we're rarely having c No.

882
00:58:21.440 --> 00:58:22.880
And I think, honestly, what's
even more surprising to me is these

883
00:58:22.880 --> 00:58:28.199
stories are are very well written,
and they bring about topics that are even

884
00:58:28.239 --> 00:58:31.960
still topicable today. Topicable, topicable. Wow, and here I thought this

885
00:58:32.000 --> 00:58:37.880
would be a perfect clip for TikTok, David spoke topical. No, No,

886
00:58:37.000 --> 00:58:40.079
they are topical, and no one
would expect that the Freddy Krueger TV

887
00:58:40.159 --> 00:58:44.400
series that most people don't even remember
existed, Yeah, was going to cover

888
00:58:44.480 --> 00:58:49.159
some topics that were pretty intense.
Especially I've really enjoyed the commentary it's had

889
00:58:49.199 --> 00:58:52.880
about parenting, because we almost never
get the parents' perspective. We always get

890
00:58:52.920 --> 00:58:55.480
the kids perspective in the movies,
but in the TV series, we get

891
00:58:55.480 --> 00:59:00.159
a lot more of the parents' perspective. I really enjoyed that. But if

892
00:59:00.159 --> 00:59:04.679
you had told me that we were
going to land on a message about animal

893
00:59:04.719 --> 00:59:07.360
cruelty, yeah, I would have
been like, oh sure, yeah,

894
00:59:07.400 --> 00:59:10.440
sure, absolutely. And I mean
it's it's one thing when you have an

895
00:59:10.440 --> 00:59:15.119
episode like Silence is Golding with a
with a killer mime, and then you

896
00:59:15.199 --> 00:59:17.400
go to an episode where it's like
we're doing cancer research and hey, these

897
00:59:17.440 --> 00:59:21.199
monkeys are in pain, but we're
gonna find out a way. No,

898
00:59:21.360 --> 00:59:25.360
these monkeys aren't in pain, but
now they are. Yeah, So anyway,

899
00:59:25.480 --> 00:59:30.480
that was that was That was season
two episode nine, Monkey Dreams.

900
00:59:30.519 --> 00:59:36.119
Then David, what is coming up
next on Freddy's Nightmares? We have a

901
00:59:36.159 --> 00:59:39.079
special surprise next week in the episode
line up because we're still continuing with the

902
00:59:39.119 --> 00:59:45.400
series. But season two episode ten, Do You Know Where Your Kids Are?

903
00:59:45.880 --> 00:59:49.719
Directed by Bill Frolick, who did
photo finish the Halloween episode this season.

904
00:59:49.880 --> 00:59:52.960
Yeah, he also was the writer
and director ever turned to Horror High,

905
00:59:52.000 --> 00:59:57.480
but turned to Horror High to Horror. But season two episode ten is

906
00:59:57.480 --> 01:00:00.840
a direct sequel to Bloodlines, which
is one of my favorite, yes favorites.

907
01:00:00.880 --> 01:00:04.800
So we're going to get some characters
back. I've already seen it.

908
01:00:04.800 --> 01:00:07.119
I'm not going to spoil anything,
but we're gonna get some characters back,

909
01:00:07.199 --> 01:00:10.719
and we still stick a little serious, but there's a little more playful in

910
01:00:10.760 --> 01:00:15.679
it. Well that wouldn't hurt.
Yeah, right, Well, be sure

911
01:00:15.719 --> 01:00:20.519
to tune in guys next week so
you can enjoy the trip to Springwood with

912
01:00:20.639 --> 01:00:23.559
us. And as of right now, there is no way to watch Freddy's

913
01:00:23.639 --> 01:00:30.000
Nightmares legally correct. So if you
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914
01:00:30.119 --> 01:00:34.280
on Facebook. We do have a
daily motion link, Yes we do.

915
01:00:34.719 --> 01:00:37.920
The quality ain't great, but you
know, the price is right. Yeah,

916
01:00:37.960 --> 01:00:39.320
And I mean I've been I've been
checking them out a couple of times

917
01:00:39.320 --> 01:00:43.519
here and there, and I can
tell you they're all complete. They all

918
01:00:43.599 --> 01:00:47.000
have the exact runtime of basically the
series that we have, the serious set

919
01:00:47.000 --> 01:00:51.360
that we have, so you are
all set to completely be on the go

920
01:00:51.480 --> 01:00:54.960
with Freddy. Ah. Yeah.
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921
01:00:54.960 --> 01:00:59.599
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922
01:00:59.639 --> 01:01:01.920
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923
01:01:02.159 --> 01:01:07.079
veterinary bills you have so but on
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924
01:01:07.159 --> 01:01:10.000
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925
01:01:10.199 --> 01:01:13.639
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926
01:01:13.760 --> 01:01:19.280
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927
01:01:19.360 --> 01:01:24.920
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928
01:01:25.000 --> 01:01:29.000
next time, we'll be bringing you
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929
01:01:29.360 --> 01:01:35.639
your Springwood srpas and home is where
Springwood is. I should have muted your

930
01:01:35.639 --> 01:01:37.920
mic when I had the chance.
We'll see We'll see you all next week.

931
01:01:38.280 --> 01:01:52.079
Thanks so much, everybody. Later
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