Don't Open Till Christmas (1984) | Do You Even Movie?

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Prevent from the people who brought you
Friday at thirteen, Now come, don't

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open present. A homicidal maniac is
loose at Christmas. His target is Santa

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Claus. No one dressed as Santa
Claus is safe. His death toys are

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a spear, a gun, as
if, a racer, a dagger,

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or a garat execution by any means. Don't open till Christmas. Don't open

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till Christmas with special guest star Carolyn
Monroe. Till Christmas. Don't open till

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Christmas. If you do, you
may not see in the new year.

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In a world where podcasts reign supreme, two Friends dare to ask, do

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you even? Movie? Hosted by
filmmaker Enrique Kuto and movie aficionado David de

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Neuer. Spoiler alert, Hey,
my friends, and I suppose happy holidays.

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Everybody hones time for the December months. Yes, here at do you

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even movie? And if you're not
listening to them around that holiday season,

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then you're a hateful person and we
don't stand by you whatsoever. I am

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your host, Enrique Kuto here with
my good buddy and co host David de

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noyees squireson's greetings. That's not even
words and happy holidays once again? Oh

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look stealing my lines? Lines?
All right, Well, we have quite

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quite a gift for you here tonight, as we are going to be talking

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about one of the most batshit crazy
holiday films that probably have ever been made.

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Yeah. I don't know if I
can think of another holiday film that's

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as nuts. There might be this
one. There might be a few,

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but I don't think any have the
notoriety and the tie to our friendship as

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much as this one has notoriety.
I mean, Joe Bob showed it last

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year. That what Joe Bob showed
it last year? On the Christmas These

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shows like one hundred and twenty movies
or something already. I just I feel

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like this since since the release of
this on Blue ray, I feel like

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it's getting a little bit of a
bigger audio. I don't know what,

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what do you want me to say
that no one knows that. I'm just

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saying. I don't know if nooriety
is the right statement for it. I

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feel like this is an infamous little
ditty. Yeah. So in the world

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of Christmas horror, and that's where
we're going tonight. We're heading into Christmas

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horror in the world of Christmas horror. You have your obvious stuff like your

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Silent Night, Deadly Night. But
then if you dive in to the more

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the less mainstream movies, the ones
that you would see late at night on

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cable or on a weird, questionable
streaming app, that's when you get into

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stuff like you get your Silent Night, Bloody Nights, and you get your

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Don't Open Until Christmas is who for
all intensive purposes. Don't Ope Until Christmas

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is public domain as far as we
could tell. Yeah, because it's available

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everywhere. I mean, anywhere you
watch movies is probably going to have some

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iteration. But this new Blu ray
looks amazing, incredible. So that's one

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of the reasons we've been re enjoying
it, is that we've been able to

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actually see the detail, to see
the magic that is magic. He says.

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This film is something Okay, that
is we're gonna dive into. Don't

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Open Until Christmas. Also, this
is one of those foreign production movies where

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you're just watching it. As you're
watching, you're like, Okay, how

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did we get here? Yeah,
but that's actually kind of one of the

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big charming elements of Don't Open Until
Christmas. The first time I saw Don't

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Open Until Christmas was on a fifty
pack of movies that I bought a like

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Best Buy, and I saw that
title of Christmas, so I put that

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on and there you have it.
So what about you double show? So

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do you remember? I think it
was back in the tail end of December

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for twenty thirteen, probably, if
not twenty twelve, when Anchor Bay finally

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re released Silent at Deadly Night double
pack of one and two together, of

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course coincide with the release of Silent
Night the remake. At the time,

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that was when I kind of went
into a Christmas tail spin, and I

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was that I was a manager at
the store I worked at at the time,

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which was a media store, and
I had access to special orders because

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of that. So I just kind
of went down a barrage list of Christmas

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horror that I hadn't seen and don't
know, a barrage list. Yes,

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that's not a thing I don't know. Just don't you listen to me?

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All right? Never, So I
went down, I went down a rabbit

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hole at Christmas titles, and one
of the one of the peak ones was

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Don't Up until Christmas because it had
been released on Blu Ray or on DVD

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by Monda Micabro for at least like
five maybe a little longer than that,

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years before something like that. Yeah, And as to my knowledge, I

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was under the impression it was out
of print. And this was kind of

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before I really had insight into Amazon
and being able to like really dive deep

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into what was out of print and
what was just harder to find, I

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guess is the best way to put
So special orders went onto it. There

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was the Mondo Macabre release of Don't
until Christmas, so it was on back

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order, so I just would hit
order on those because you know, either

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they came in or they didn't.
And one year it came in and I

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watched it, and I remember I
was leaving my uncle's house at the time,

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and he came down right at the
ending and he's like, is this

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don't open until Christmas? And I
was like, there's a reason I live

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with you. But it was just
one of those movies that I immediately latched

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onto because I'm a huge slasher fan. You know this, and we've watched

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many a slasher films on your screen, and I just I'm such a sucker

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for Christmas horror and there's so much
more bad than there is good that it's

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kind of nice to get one right
now, Christmas horror. There's more bad

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than there is good. This is
news to me, everybody, literally all

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my memories today. It popped up
that like six or seven years ago,

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you and I today were watching Mother
Crampus and Red Christmas. Wow. Yeah,

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that was quite a double feature.
That was quite a double feature.

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Indeed. Yeah, yeah, it's
no don't open until Christmas. No,

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no it's not. But so don't
up until Christmas. This was made in

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nineteen eighty four, or it was
released in nineteen eighty four. Yeah,

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we're gonna get into some of the
interesting elements of it, of its production

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and distribution. But why don't you
run down the pertinent deep? All right,

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so we're talking about Don't until Christmas. The release date of nineteen eighty

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four, eighty six minute runtime with
an R rating, and a hard R

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rating at that too. The director
say hard R does not say. But

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no, this film is interesting because
you're gonna hear me say this now.

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This film technically has three directors.
But our first director is Edmund Purdam.

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And if you might know that name, it's either because you're either a Pieces

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fan or one of want favorites from
Jodamato Absurd. The man was a huge

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he was famous before that. Huge. Yeah, I know, but our

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audience, our audience in particular,
maybe, but no, I mean he

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was a huge Hollywood actor. Julius
Caesar in nineteen fifty three, Diary of

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Ann frankt fifty nine, It Takes
a Thief in sixty nine, The Fifth

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Cord in seventy one, Beyond the
Door in seventy four, Absurd in eighty

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one, Invaders of the Lost Gold, and Pieces in nineteen eighty two Invaders

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of the Law School, the only
film where I was promised cannibals and did

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not get any cannibals. So Severin
put out Invader's the Lost Gold about a

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year ago with a it was a
combo release. Was it Joe Demano or

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who is it that did Strike Strike
Commando? A Strike Commando that sounds like

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Demodol, Yeah, Demto, I
think did Strike Comando and Strike Commando two.

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And they coincided that release with Invader's
Lost Gold, which was a basic

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loose remake of the Treasure of Sierra
Madre that was done in the Philippines and

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you had Edmund Purdam in it,
and it was directed by the second director

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on this, which is Alan Berkshaw. But anyway, the reason Enrique brings

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that up is because for some reason
when I when I got that title,

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I decided that there were cannibals in
it something I have read. It was

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not on the box cover or anything. No, it was just somehow it

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got into David's mind. It was
probably just because of the fact that there

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are tribal warriors in it in the
opening, and I just kind of linked

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those two together because Joe Tomtto did
those cannibal films as well. Quite the

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realist, isn't he. Perdam also
did twenty nineteen after the Fall of New

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York. He was in Titanic The
Legend Goes On in two thousand, that

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cartoon with the Titanic that John tru
And the writer on this film and second

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director is Derek Ford. He was
the director and writer on a film called

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Swappers in nineteen seventy, Keep It
Up Jack in seventy four, Diversions in

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seventy six, and then back to
Alan Berkshaw. He is our final and

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third director and writer on the film. He did Killer's Moon in nineteen seventy

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eight, Invaders Last Gold in eighty
two, Don't Have until Christmas in eighty

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four. He was the director of
the House of Usher in eighty nine,

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that the one that you and Morgan
watched in South Africa. Yeah, okay.

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And he also did quite a film, yeah, Mask of the Red

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Death in eighty nine as well,
So he did both of both of those.

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Those are actually not bad. One
of them, which one that Frank

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stallone I think of that mask?
Yeah, mask. And then finally,

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the name that we're going to talk
in regards to production is our producer Dick

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Randall. And Dick Randall, boy
was he Randall? Dick Randall is the

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epitome of of an old Hollywood type. He is featured on the disc in

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a making of segment called making a
Horror Film that I'll talk a little bit

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more towards the end. But he
was a big Hollywood type, big producer.

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He director, produced such films,
directed and produced such films as Frankenstein's

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Castle Freaks in nineteen seventy four,
The Girl in Room two A and seventy

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four, as well The Real Bruce
Lee in seventy seven, which did not

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feature the real prison, not whatsoever. Escape from Women's Prison in seventy eight,

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the Clones of Bruce Lee in nineteen
eighty. That one also did not

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feature any semblance of a real Bruce
Lay Pieces in eighty two, and VADs

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the Lost Gold in eighty two,
and one of my personal favorites, Slutter

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High in nineteen eighty six. Baby, don't worry, future episode. I'll

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make sure that happens that will not
be happening. But anyway. Randall is

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credited for bringing Kung fu movies to
the West. He was a big time

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producer. He produced over sixty films
in his lifetime. And everybody has nothing

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but nice things to say about him. Not me. I have a lot

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of bad things to say about that, let me tell y'all. But no,

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a lot of interesting characters behind the
film, but the film itself so

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Enrique. Here is the synopsis on
the back of the Vinegar Syndrome blu Ray.

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It says, it is just days
before Christmas in London, but not

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everyone is full of good cheer.
As a maniac with a pathological hatred of

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Santa Claus stalks the streets, butchering
any man. That's unlikely enough to be

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wandering around dressed as old saint.
That's what it says. Unlucky enough.

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Nope, you're right. Not restricting
himself to any one method of murder,

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This twisted killer dishes out stabbing,
his gunshots, a castration, and even

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burns the face of one poor Sanna
on his own roasting chestnuts. As the

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bodies have slaughtered father Christmas pile up, Chief Inspector Harris finds himself under increasing

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pressure to crack the case before the
holiday is canceled for good. My synopsis,

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the serial killer is killing Santa Claus
is in London and Christmas time.

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I mean, I feel like you
could have done it in less words,

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somehow have been like uh Santa death
and before before we get really into this

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movie, because we do have to
spoil basically everything about this movie in order

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to talk about it. Spoil everything. That's the whole point of the show

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exactly. So spoiler alert, there
we go. So this movie is currently

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available on streaming. In particular,
you can find it on Shutter, but

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also you can get a DVD or
Blu ray available on Amazon pretty readily available,

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and you can check your multi horror
packs if you have those because les

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Enrique said, this is public domain, so it is featured in a lot

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of those sets as well. So
this movie, I mean, where where

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do we start, Well, we
could start at the beginning. We'll start

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the beginning, all right, So
let's talk about our casting. So we

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already mentioned per Dom. He is, he's just a namesake in regards of

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old Hollywood, and he did a
lot of horror films. Towards the tail

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of his career, he was kind
of chased out of Hollywood because he unfortunately

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had an affair with a big Hollywood
producer. Felt it was unfortunately. I

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don't think he was upset about it. I think I do not think so.

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But this film had a lot of
trouble production with per Dom in my

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and that starts with him taking over
the He started the production in nineteen eighty

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two. And if you watch the
Making of a Horror Movie, which is

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like a fifty two minute little extra
on the Vincent disc that was also on

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the Macabre Disc as well, you
can kind of see and they even Berkshaw

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even says it in his interview on
the disc as well. Perdam was really

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well rounded in regards to his Hollywood
knowledge and just being able to do stuff

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behind the camera as well as in
front of But by this point in his

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career he had kind of gotten a
little bit of a god complex. Well

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he had been kind of expelled from
Hollywood. Yeah, and now he was

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a big fish in a very small
pond. Again, of course, he

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had family in Europe, I believe
is why he wound up out that way.

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That's correct. Was Pieces the first
one they roped him into. I

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believe so because Pieces was an eighty
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this, so it would have been
the no well no Pieces, Pieces was

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eighty two, don't until Chrismas is
eighty four tech oh a lease. So

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he finishes Pieces, but before that
is Absurd in eighty one, and then

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invaders the Lost Gold in eighty two. So Pieces in Invader's Life school code

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the same. Okay, I gotcha, and it starts the same your production

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as don't open til Christmas as well. So it wasn't uncommon for these international

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productions to snap up a name talent
because they needed every edge they could get.

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So hearing a guy like him,
even if as you're listening to this,

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you're thinking, I don't know who
Edmund Pardome is the fact that anybody

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knew who he was was a huge
victory for these small overseas productions. Absolutely,

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so it makes sense that they'd snap
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a bunch of stuff. They'd pay
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an Italian film especially, and try
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because American film sold better, not
only in America but everywhere else. Everybody

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wanted American movies because the understanding was
that's where you go to get great films.

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You go to America. Do You
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back, Welcome back to do You
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per Dome multiple times and now as
don't up until Christmas is coming along,

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they're dangling the carrot in his face
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especially one that you can't afford to
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is any, they tend to be
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think that that was an ego play. I would totally agree because also on

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top of that information, when they
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does mention that while he was not
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its initial concept, he did bring
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onto it, and he did have
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production wise, and he mentioned that
in regards to Dick Randall's office, it

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was not uncommon for per Dome to
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try to find more work. And
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step in a Don't until Christmas,
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then per Dom at this point,
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like to direct. And after you
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Randall agreed to that as well.
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I mean, you're solidifying a star
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now, had he directed anything before
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Is this okay? So but but
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a really long time. So and
on top of that, they probably thought

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like, how bad could he possibly
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And in a way he messed it
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he didn't. He just did what
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his his vision of the film.
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they're filming a scene that we'll talk
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where it was the scene in the
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Dom even says on camera when they
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some blood doesn't get seen. He's
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this movie to be very bloody,
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is like he's like, yeah,
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and that kind of thing happens.
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I mean, as I have firsthand
experience fixing movies like that. Being

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hired is what they call the hatchet
man, and it's a thankless job.

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because nowadays, when a movie has
so many problems, you need to

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hire somebody to come in and fix
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Because when you credit another writer and
another director in this film, I

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remember the opening credit said additional scenes
by yeah, directed by That signals to

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the distributors and to the audience that
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assume it's going to suck. And
I know that's being very direct about it,

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like assuming it's gonna suck. But
that's the truth. I hatchet man

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this one flick, and I put
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the original director and editor did combine. Not I mean I got a producer

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credit somewhere on it, but like, but there was no way because I

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had actually, uh, I had
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crediting like four writers before I even
got involved. I was like, you

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got to you gotta contact these writers
and see if anybody's okay with just getting

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a story credit or whatever. Now
we're not in the union so we could

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do stuff like that. But I
was like, we got it. We

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cannot have four writers. If we
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movie's a mess before they start watching
it. And perception is everything. I

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cannot overstate that I've I've literally shown
short films that I directed to film experts,

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film professionals, you know, air
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film professionals and they've been like,
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then when they find out how cheaply
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it becomes far less impressive. Perception
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business. Yeah, And people often
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unromantic. It's not fun that perception
is everything. No, but perception is

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everything. Well, And going back
to that when in regards to having too

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many names in one spot, I
remember when you and I went to go

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see Hellfest and immediately when those six
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this film had trouble. Yeah,
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bad. It does mean it was
trouble. Yeah. And it's the same

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thing about going back with directors in
their names. The one I always think

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of is Alan Smithy in regards to
Maniac Cop three. Well, that's a

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famous name people use to take their
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kind of a middle finger to the
movie itself. It's like, I've always

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wondered why studios let the directors change
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of the union. Yea that they
can do that, but it's like,

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that's like me doing a project for
a producer and then being mad, so

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I changed my name to sucky Suckerson
or like this movie sucks smith you know,

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Like I feel like it's an unfair
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pre a preface that this movie won't
be good. It's like, you know,

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it's like, uh, it's it's
like you're you're you're burning the bridge

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on your way out to make sure
nobody else can enjoy it. Yeah,

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So I always kind of was bummed
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most of the people who throw Alan
Smithy on something, it's not because they're

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not happy with their performance. It's
because they're unhappy with the way they were

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managed and the way their film was
taken from them. So I'm not trying

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to like crap on any filmmakers out
there who were like, I don't want

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to put up with you know,
my name being on whatever. But that's

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a big thing, especially when you
have low budget movies. Perception is such

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a massive element of everything. So
that's why it's like I always get nervous

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when I see like multiple right,
Like when I see the worst isn't when

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you see when you have like three
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of writers. You have so so
ampersand so and so and then another name,

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and then another name, and the
word and and another name. That's

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a lot of writing team that's troublesome, indeed. So. But now going

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back to the production of this,
so the main story that we have in

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in Donup until Christmas is basically a
police procedural where we are following a killer

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that's going around killing Santa Clauses.
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Inspector Harris and his partner Pale,
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of course, and in doing so
we meet our characters who the first

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one that we have, uh is
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her boyfriend is what is his name? I want to mention real quick,

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calling don't Ope until Christmas like a
police procedural is like calling is like calling

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Wizard of Oz, like a like
a murder mystery. That's fair, that's

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fair. It is police procedure.
It's meant to be a police procedural.

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It does not turn out as well. It just not no, it just

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not so. Yeah. We have
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we have her boyfriend Cliff, who
is played by Jerry Sungwist, and they

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are at a Christmas party and Kate's
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called out onto the stage and he's, you know, working with the crowd

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and everything, and then all of
a sudden, a spear comes out of

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nowhere kills him, goes to the
back of his head while he has a

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noisemaker or I can't remember what is
that what they're called, it's the little

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thing, yeah, out of your
mouth. Yeah, And that that kicks

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off essentially the events of donop So
Christmas, because then Perdama is called onto

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the case with Harris or with Powell
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is going on, and then we
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going progressively as the movie well,
it keeps going. Also a strong word

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there's almost no rhyme or reason like
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stacked, yeah that it's confusing.
Like there's one scene after a kill.

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Yeah, one scene right, and
they're like, oh, we have to

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find out who killed him, and
then it's just nighttime. In another stand

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is just like existing outside and gets
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was I was like, it's not
paced. Well, it's just it just

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happens really fast. It's pace.
The sound design is probably the worst thing

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about this movie. Now, before
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film good? Oh boy? No? Is this film great? Yes?

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Yes, So I want to make
that extremely abundantly clear. This film is

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so much fun. It is absolutely
worth your time for the w t F

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factor that it is. I mean
that alone. And there are a few

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movies that Dave and I both love
that are w t F factor alone,

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movies like Nightmare City. In fact, they're mostly European. They usually have

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some strong ties to Italian film or
Spanish film or what have you. But

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this is the only one that's about
Christmas. Is the only one. And

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when we were when we were when
we were watching it earlier and we were

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talking about that, you had mentioned
like, I feel like I remember everything

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about this movie, like almost feel
like we don't have to watch it.

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Before I didn't say we always we
don't have to watch it. I do

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not say that you felt it we
almost didn't, not that we didn't have

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to. We weren't arguing. You
were just sharing your opinion, which is

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often wrong, wrong, But no, you were saying, like, I

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feel like we almost don't need to
watch this because we know it's so well.

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And I told you something that now
I think needs to be on the

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record. I coined the term absurd
What was it was absurdity fatigue. Fatigue

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when you have a movie that is
as batship as don't open until Christmas,

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or Nightmare City or Hell of the
uh, Hell of the Living Dead,

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or one of those films. Rats
Night Terror, Rats A Night of Terror

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is another good one. I sincerely
believe that the human brain gets this thing

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that I'm calling absurdity fatigue, where
you're so overwhelmed by the absurd scene,

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ups scene, absurd scene, absurd
scene, that you remember the whole film

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is absurd. Yeah, but you
you forget some of them because you just

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can't. So you're like, oh, yeah, well the music box explodes.

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Man, it's crazy, and it's
like but do you remember Piccadilly Circus

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and the and the wax Museum and
you're like, oh, man, dad,

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the London Dungeon. It's literally the
movie is so full of insanity,

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yeah, that you won't remember it
all it is. So that's my point.

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That's my point is that, Yeah, it's that you'll sit there and

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be like, well, remember when
the guy gets stabbed with the peep show

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blah blah blah blah. It's like, what about when he falls off the

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tower the tower and you're like,
oh, yeah, that burts you like

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you're forgetting crazy thing. That's how
insane this movie really is. Yeah,

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And I mean and that and that
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essentially so per Dom's version of the
film, Birkinshaw said, was basically like

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seven sixty seventy percent done, and
then he introduced Berknshaw did the character of

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Giles Harrison, who was played by
Alan Lake. Alan Lake was in Love

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Story in sixty four, he was
on The Avengers in sixty eight, he

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was in Madigan seventy two Doctor Hugh
and seventy eight Heart to Heart. This

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guy was a little bit everywhere.
He is our Red Herring, but also

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not I mean a red herring.
I mean, no, he can't be

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a red herring. No, he's
just a badly hidden I guess. Yeah,

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I guess then Perdoma be the red
herring. No, per Dome is

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a massive red herring. Yeah,
spoiler alert. I think that. I

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think that in this film, I
think they kind of based some of per

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Dome being the red herring on Pieces. I could definitely see that because spoiler

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on that. But like he's the
bad guy and he's a killer in Pieces.

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Yeah, and sorry, you had
thirty fucking years to watch it forty,

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but like, but I think that's
why they keep like kind of hinting

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that per Dome is the killer.
Yeah, is because he's the biggest name

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in the movie. He's the guy
that everybody notices when you watch the film.

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Yeah, it's I mean and even
today, like you'll be watching a

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TV show or a movie or something
and you'll see somebody like I'm just random

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use but like you're like, hey, Edward Norton's so I didn't realize he

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was in this, And then like
twenty you're like, oh, he's the

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killer, always killer because because family
I did the one that was like,

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oh, Jimmy Smits, Jimmy Spence, switch Jimmy Smiths. But yeah,

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Alan Lake, he plays Giles Harrison, who is supposedly working for a newspaper.

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And you'll notice when you watch the
film that Giles shows up immediately and

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and and like Enrique said, you're
like, oh, well, there's the

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killer, Like there there is no
hide. It doesn't help that he looks

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batshit insane from the moment you see
him. You're waiting for him to ask

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about fava beans and the fiance.
No, I mean, he seriously shows

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me. She's like, hello,
Yes, I'm Giles. I worked for

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the news, for the newspaper murders. I don't know anything. Hmm.

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What didn't it be nice to solve
these murders? I mean, so we

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have Giles Harrison introduced, and right
off the bat you can just tell he

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is And in doing so, with
that, Birkenshaw's creation of him into the

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story makes it to that all his
scenes completely put him usually not with another

405
00:28:00.759 --> 00:28:04.279
character. If it's only for the
one police investigator, he really doesn't interact

406
00:28:04.319 --> 00:28:08.640
with anybody else except for the chick
at the peep show. Yeah he is.

407
00:28:08.759 --> 00:28:14.119
He interacts with the chick at the
peep show, he interacts with the

408
00:28:14.160 --> 00:28:18.839
cops, but never predume obviously never
predom well, and they make it,

409
00:28:18.880 --> 00:28:21.920
but they make a reason for that, so it's not a cheap thing.

410
00:28:22.039 --> 00:28:23.839
The reason he never interacts with per
Dome. So yeah, he's just kind

411
00:28:23.839 --> 00:28:27.960
of in the periphery. But honestly, it works as much as it doesn't

412
00:28:29.000 --> 00:28:33.400
work as a mystery, it does
work as a storytelling purpose because he doesn't

413
00:28:33.440 --> 00:28:37.720
need to be around all the time. He's sprinkled throughout. Yeah, and

414
00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:41.680
I think, honestly, what goes
into the fact that I love this movie

415
00:28:41.720 --> 00:28:47.599
so much, besides from its batshitness
is it is it's one hundred percent of

416
00:28:47.640 --> 00:28:51.079
Christmas slasher film. We're in London
at Christmas time. We see Christmas decoration,

417
00:28:51.240 --> 00:28:56.440
well, we see weird, not
quite right English decorations. How I

418
00:28:56.599 --> 00:29:02.960
love Christmas. I love all of
its iterations England. It's it's they're just

419
00:29:03.119 --> 00:29:07.200
enough not like us that it's weird. Like you'll look at the Christmas outfits

420
00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:11.279
and they'll have a hood and you're
like, a Santa's a hood, or

421
00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:14.160
they'll be like, you know,
have some sherry. It's Christmas. You're

422
00:29:14.200 --> 00:29:17.759
like, what the fuck is sherry, you know, or they'll be they'll

423
00:29:17.799 --> 00:29:19.880
wear they wear paper hats on Christmas, and I'm like, that's a New

424
00:29:19.960 --> 00:29:22.960
Year's thing. Why are they doing
that? I remember the first time I

425
00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:29.240
noticed English Christmas is weird was in
the First Tales from the Cryptoamicist movie Yeah,

426
00:29:29.240 --> 00:29:33.920
from like nineteen seventy something seventy two. Yeah, because that one and

427
00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:38.000
all through the house there's this whole
part where they're sitting there with their little

428
00:29:38.039 --> 00:29:41.000
cups of sherry and they have their
paper hats on, and I'm like,

429
00:29:41.160 --> 00:29:45.119
what is going on here? Like
I don't understand. This isn't right?

430
00:29:45.599 --> 00:29:51.839
But no, but it's it's super
Christmas. There's tons of decor. Obviously,

431
00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:56.519
there's a lot of people dressed like
Santa Claus aka the canon Fadder.

432
00:29:56.640 --> 00:30:03.680
Yes, because what it really comes
down to is this is a film about

433
00:30:03.720 --> 00:30:07.640
a man killing people dressed like Santa
Claus. Yeah. And more importantly the

434
00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:11.160
fact that, for whatever reason,
in all of London no one ever got

435
00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:15.759
the memo because people are just friggin
stopping around the streets of the UK.

436
00:30:17.400 --> 00:30:21.440
Santa go ahead like called out here, isn't it. I'm Father Christmas,

437
00:30:21.759 --> 00:30:27.359
I'm Father Christmas And then and then
they're like what they get murdered? Do

438
00:30:27.559 --> 00:30:38.759
you even? Movie? Will be
right back, welcome back to do you

439
00:30:40.039 --> 00:30:48.599
Even? Movie? And and going
into that, we have one beautiful segment

440
00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:49.680
that I do want to discuss because
you may think, like, oh,

441
00:30:49.680 --> 00:30:52.519
the fact the start targeting mem well, that's sexist. Don't worry. There

442
00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:56.720
is at one point we do have
a scare where a woman who is dressed

443
00:30:56.920 --> 00:31:00.640
in just a Santa robe is outside
and the killer finds her with a straight

444
00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:03.359
razor and runs away. That's not
true. She's also wearing a pair of

445
00:31:03.359 --> 00:31:10.240
black pants of excuse me stop lying
to but no. So Kate and Jerry

446
00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:14.599
or not Jerry. Kate and Cliff
are out like out because Cliff is a

447
00:31:14.839 --> 00:31:18.039
flute player for panhandling, so he's
just like getting money in the square sometimes

448
00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:21.839
and they're out, yeah, and
they're out playing one day and his old

449
00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:25.319
buddy Jerry comes up, who's a
photographer, and he decides that he wants

450
00:31:25.319 --> 00:31:27.400
to offer them the chance to have
a photo shoot for Christmas because his two

451
00:31:27.519 --> 00:31:32.359
other models canceled. So to keep
in mind on this, Kate's father has

452
00:31:32.440 --> 00:31:34.799
just been murdered, like what two
days ago. In that in front of

453
00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:40.519
her and everyone. So any site
of a Santa anything is just triggering to

454
00:31:40.559 --> 00:31:45.279
her. So they get to Jerry's
photo shoot, which is in his apartment

455
00:31:45.319 --> 00:31:48.720
and he's dealing with this one chick
and he pulls out this Christmas robe and

456
00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:52.200
of course it upsets her and she
runs off. So then Cliff is with

457
00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:55.119
this chick and they decide that they're
gonna do some shots and it gets to

458
00:31:55.160 --> 00:31:56.680
the point where they have to go
outside. They end up getting locked out.

459
00:31:56.759 --> 00:32:00.000
Cliff runs off, leaving her,
and then that's when the killer runs

460
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:04.119
up. But the reason he runs
off is because there's two cops that are

461
00:32:04.160 --> 00:32:07.759
walking the streets. Yes, yes, and he has his arms around the

462
00:32:07.839 --> 00:32:09.240
chick and he's like, he's like, oh, she's hitting on him,

463
00:32:09.279 --> 00:32:13.079
she's hitting on him, yeah,
And he sees this. He sees the

464
00:32:13.119 --> 00:32:15.519
cops and notices her in the Santa
robe and you can't really tell that she's

465
00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:17.680
a woman from the back. So
he gets panicked that he thinks that they're

466
00:32:17.680 --> 00:32:20.480
going to be a couple of gazes, he said, and he's like,

467
00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:22.400
they're gonna think we're a couple of
gaze and runs off, leaving her.

468
00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:25.000
Well, then she's just naked in
the Santa robe in black panties. So

469
00:32:25.079 --> 00:32:28.160
she runs off down the street to
try and hide from the cops, and

470
00:32:28.160 --> 00:32:30.680
in doing so runs into the killer. Nothing happens, and she ends up

471
00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:34.759
going home and is almost arrested for
or is rested for a decent exposure,

472
00:32:34.759 --> 00:32:37.039
but gets to go home. And
then that's when per Dome goes to see

473
00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:38.960
her the next day, and we
have one of my all time favorite lines,

474
00:32:39.200 --> 00:32:43.319
which is per Dome walks in the
apartment and he's like, you know,

475
00:32:43.400 --> 00:32:45.880
you you should have been more careful. It was only the circumstance that

476
00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:47.960
you got here. You are arrested
for indecent exposure, and she goes,

477
00:32:49.039 --> 00:32:54.839
indecent, I'm a professional and just
shows her Yeah, so uh no,

478
00:32:54.720 --> 00:33:00.880
no, And that's and that's a
good example of how completely batshit Yeah this

479
00:33:00.960 --> 00:33:05.559
movie is. Is that you could
forget, Yeah, that there's a whole

480
00:33:05.599 --> 00:33:09.240
scene with a nude model under a
Santa robe that that gets basically threatened with

481
00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:15.000
a straight razor in the first fifteen
minutes but then gets released. Yeah,

482
00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:19.000
and uh, the whole uh indecent, I'm a professional. It's like,

483
00:33:20.359 --> 00:33:25.160
no one's trying, that's all I
got. No one's trying to make the

484
00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:30.279
sleeves make sense. Before that too, Predoman and and Pow also go to

485
00:33:30.319 --> 00:33:32.440
her apartment and again like this is
the day after her dad's been murdered,

486
00:33:32.480 --> 00:33:36.359
and she has the line of my
father's just been murdered. I can't concentrate.

487
00:33:37.079 --> 00:33:42.880
There are so many one liners that
are just so great. So from

488
00:33:42.920 --> 00:33:45.160
there we get into the Santa kills, and I mean, just to run

489
00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:47.599
down the list we've got, like
I said, a spear through the head

490
00:33:47.599 --> 00:33:52.240
in one of them. One shot
is a guy that's dressed in a Santa

491
00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:55.400
suit, smoking a cigarette, roasting
some chestnuts and then lo and behold gets

492
00:33:55.440 --> 00:33:59.359
he has he has a chestnut cart. Yeah, chess, So he's roasting

493
00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:02.359
chestnuts to sell on the street,
dressed as Santa. And it's only been

494
00:34:02.440 --> 00:34:07.599
three days of Santa Claus is being
murdered. So you gotta make a living.

495
00:34:07.759 --> 00:34:10.480
It's Christmas. A lot of reference
to people putting themselves at risk because

496
00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:14.320
they want to go back to work. Yes, so I don't know if

497
00:34:14.360 --> 00:34:15.559
they were I don't know if that's
bad riding or if they were trying to

498
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:20.320
say something about the economics of London. Yeah, but a lot of people

499
00:34:20.400 --> 00:34:22.360
are like, well, there's a
murderer and they're gonna want to kill you.

500
00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:23.760
And it's like, well, I
could go back to work though,

501
00:34:23.840 --> 00:34:28.960
right, and all the jobs are
public facing jobs. It's not like I

502
00:34:29.039 --> 00:34:30.760
want to go back towards to my
office. It's like I'm gonna go back

503
00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:32.519
to work working at like the peep
show on the corner and nine at night

504
00:34:32.519 --> 00:34:35.360
too for the most part, like
a lot, Like I think most of

505
00:34:35.320 --> 00:34:37.360
the murders are at nights. Well, day and night are just at will

506
00:34:37.400 --> 00:34:42.199
in this movie. Basically it is
just night when it needs to be period.

507
00:34:42.719 --> 00:34:45.559
So he's selling his chestnuts. The
guy walks up and I think he

508
00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:47.920
stabs him once and then puts his
head onto the chestnut cart. So,

509
00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:52.960
yes, his skin just completely starts
melting away, and then the whole corpse

510
00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:55.599
just catches fire. Well, he
pulls his face off and he's covered in

511
00:34:55.679 --> 00:35:00.519
burns and then he just flops the
body onto the cart and it just into

512
00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:02.480
flames. Yes, And going back
to the production of this movie, that

513
00:35:02.639 --> 00:35:07.760
poor bastard that had his face decked
out with the black makeup for the Chestnut

514
00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:10.840
murder, he had to take that
off for like three days. They had

515
00:35:10.840 --> 00:35:14.920
to scrub his face to get that
off took it took days and days to

516
00:35:14.920 --> 00:35:17.360
get the makeup off for like a
twenty second Wonder what the hell they used

517
00:35:17.360 --> 00:35:20.880
to fix it? I mean they
had they show it. They show the

518
00:35:20.920 --> 00:35:22.519
whole process in that making of a
horror movie. And Dick Randall even says

519
00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:28.199
that his agent called him pissed.
I mean, the irony is that,

520
00:35:28.280 --> 00:35:32.599
as you described to me some of
the the trivia of this film, that

521
00:35:32.599 --> 00:35:36.480
that that Santa had an agent.
But later one of the Santa's was just

522
00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:40.559
a drunken a bar apparently. Yeah, so we have one Santa that's just

523
00:35:40.559 --> 00:35:44.039
stumbling down the street drunk, and
then all of a sudden he ends up

524
00:35:44.039 --> 00:35:45.519
walking up to the killer who just
puts the gun barrel in his mouth and

525
00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:49.599
then blows his brains. It just
shoots his frigging brains out. So,

526
00:35:49.639 --> 00:35:52.320
if you're not keeping tracked by this
point, that's five deaths in under Like

527
00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:54.679
the first twenty minutes of this movie. Some of the debts have like a

528
00:35:54.679 --> 00:35:58.800
build up in suspense, and then
others are just I'm a Santa Claus,

529
00:35:58.800 --> 00:36:02.920
gun in your mouth, bang all
over the place, like it really is.

530
00:36:04.000 --> 00:36:07.480
Bonger it really really is, and
there really is. There's a lot

531
00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:13.480
of moments in the movie where I
can tell that someone simply wanted the film

532
00:36:13.480 --> 00:36:16.639
done. Oh yeah, because oh
yeah, there are multiple kill scenes where

533
00:36:16.639 --> 00:36:20.360
the sound effects just aren't just start
there, like when the guy catches on

534
00:36:20.400 --> 00:36:22.199
fire on top of the chestnut thing, there's no fire sound at all.

535
00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:28.400
There's no like anything. To my
knowledge, per Dom shot the chestnut roasting,

536
00:36:28.440 --> 00:36:30.000
because they show him on the making
of that. He shot the Sanda

537
00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:35.280
that gets killed with the gun,
and the I believe the spear was also

538
00:36:35.360 --> 00:36:37.320
him too, So there could be
those pickups that Berkshaw did, But from

539
00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:42.000
my understanding, Berkshaw mainly put Giles
into it as much as he could for

540
00:36:42.039 --> 00:36:45.719
the story and also flushed out a
little bit more of there's a romantic story

541
00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:49.840
in this with Kate and per Dom
that's kind of more towards the end and

542
00:36:49.840 --> 00:36:52.239
then just kind of gets sighted and
absolutely forced in every way. Yeah.

543
00:36:52.280 --> 00:36:55.480
I mean not just not just because
the actors are clearly I have no chemistry,

544
00:36:55.519 --> 00:36:59.400
but I mean like for story wise, yeah, it's just like and

545
00:36:59.599 --> 00:37:00.880
there to each other. Well why
not, I don't know, they've seen

546
00:37:00.880 --> 00:37:06.199
each other twice, right, yeah. So following the gunshot, we go

547
00:37:06.280 --> 00:37:08.800
then to a peep show where we
meet our essential final girl, who is

548
00:37:09.360 --> 00:37:15.480
her name Sharon, but she's she's
credited as experienced girl on IMDb. That

549
00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:19.320
checks out, and her only other
her only other resume was slaughter high mind

550
00:37:19.360 --> 00:37:23.360
you two. Uh, I'm gonna
get it on the show this day someday.

551
00:37:23.440 --> 00:37:27.800
Don't worry, don't you worry.
But anyway, so she works at

552
00:37:27.800 --> 00:37:30.239
a peep show. Her name is
Kelly Baker and she's Sharon in the film.

553
00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:32.239
She's working at a peep show and
one of the santas ends up stumbling

554
00:37:32.239 --> 00:37:35.719
down the stairs to the peep show
and she starts talking to him, and

555
00:37:35.719 --> 00:37:38.039
then that's when the killer comes out
and hits him in the neck and kills

556
00:37:38.079 --> 00:37:40.920
him, and the blood sprays onto
the glass. She runs off, and

557
00:37:40.960 --> 00:37:44.679
now she's the witness that we're gonna
follow essentially the rest of the movie.

558
00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:47.440
Yeah, yeah, well, which
is like maybe thirty minuty minutes. Yeah,

559
00:37:47.480 --> 00:37:52.440
while cutting back and forth between per
Dome being weird, yes, and

560
00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:55.599
Giles being weird weirder. Yeah,
yeah, yeah. I actually that was

561
00:37:55.639 --> 00:37:59.440
one of the things I was mentioning
when we were watching it too. I

562
00:37:59.679 --> 00:38:07.519
since I crely want to know when
did the filmmaker. When did the filmmaker

563
00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:13.199
think that the audience figured out Giles
was the killer, because it feels like

564
00:38:13.519 --> 00:38:16.480
they thought we didn't know until the
creepy scene where they just show him kill

565
00:38:16.480 --> 00:38:21.360
a girl. Yeah, but we
knew like the moment he says Hi,

566
00:38:22.280 --> 00:38:23.920
I mean i'll give you, I'll
give you a break, and say the

567
00:38:23.960 --> 00:38:30.199
second scene he was in the second
scene, he was in best case scenario,

568
00:38:30.639 --> 00:38:32.480
that was when people figured it out. So I don't know, I'm

569
00:38:32.480 --> 00:38:36.239
really curious when they thought people figured
out. And I mean for the record

570
00:38:36.239 --> 00:38:39.039
too, Giles is unveiled with like
twenty minutes of movie left. Still Yeah,

571
00:38:39.079 --> 00:38:43.119
yeah, no, they definitely well, but see, there's one thing

572
00:38:43.119 --> 00:38:46.039
I'll say though. Okay, so
there's one thing for the the I don't

573
00:38:46.039 --> 00:38:50.039
know why. I'm not going to
give you a schooling about film storytelling,

574
00:38:50.320 --> 00:38:53.480
but it's about friggid don't open until
Christmas this But no, there's an important

575
00:38:53.519 --> 00:38:59.800
thing to keep in mind about suspense. Suspense is all about what you know

576
00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:05.679
and what the characters don't. So
having Giles revealed is the killer to us

577
00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:12.760
could then amplify the suspense when he's
in scenes with other characters. True,

578
00:39:12.920 --> 00:39:16.519
they did not do that. He's
only with the people he's already planning to

579
00:39:16.639 --> 00:39:22.320
kill by then. Yeah, but
oftentimes that is the goal. When you

580
00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:25.639
reveal a killer with like twenty minutes
left, is that then the killer is

581
00:39:27.559 --> 00:39:30.840
around somebody? Yeah, I mean
heck. In Babysitter Master, in the

582
00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:35.920
movie I directed, I literally my
opinion, the moment you really know who

583
00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:37.519
the killer is is a character.
I don't want to spoil it because that

584
00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:40.639
movie's not forty years old. Yeah, but there's a moment where a character

585
00:39:40.760 --> 00:39:45.159
folds their arms and you realize they're
wearing the gloves and the shirts of the

586
00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:47.760
killer. It's a great reveal,
thank you. Well, some people don't

587
00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:52.079
catch it, so then they don't
catch it until the literal unmask That's kind

588
00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:54.280
of why I love watching Babysitter Masker
in a theater is because sometimes you can

589
00:39:54.320 --> 00:39:59.559
audibly hear when people have this yeah
ye oh when they see the gloves,

590
00:40:00.920 --> 00:40:02.920
or they won't until he pulls the
mask off. But no, so I

591
00:40:02.920 --> 00:40:07.719
mean then you know, any other
time you like the moment he folds his

592
00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:09.840
hands, about half the audience is
going shit, shit, shit, shit,

593
00:40:09.880 --> 00:40:13.679
shit, because they know what's coming. Yeah. So but that being

594
00:40:13.719 --> 00:40:16.960
said, not really done here.
No, I would say that the film,

595
00:40:17.519 --> 00:40:21.840
about a third of the film attempts
to create suspense, yeah, and

596
00:40:21.880 --> 00:40:23.559
then it just says that fuck it. I think honestly, the suspense is

597
00:40:23.599 --> 00:40:25.960
best created by the set pieces,
one of which will get to you now,

598
00:40:27.000 --> 00:40:30.360
which is the London dungeon scene.
Yeah. Yeah, that that seems

599
00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:32.039
fine, it's fine, but like
I think what I love about it most

600
00:40:32.239 --> 00:40:36.360
is that you know what's coming,
but like you get to use all these

601
00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:39.239
great set pieces and kind of fake
it out because there's just wax figures of

602
00:40:39.280 --> 00:40:44.039
corpses and torture and everywhere. So
essentially what happens is there's a Santa that

603
00:40:44.159 --> 00:40:45.760
again a drunk. He comes out
of the bar. Almost all of these

604
00:40:45.800 --> 00:40:51.079
Santas are drunk. They are,
which I guess checks out. So he

605
00:40:51.119 --> 00:40:53.000
comes out of the pub. He
gets on his bicycle and he rides past

606
00:40:53.000 --> 00:40:55.679
these punks who really aren't harassing him. They're like, hey, Santa,

607
00:40:55.800 --> 00:41:00.960
what's going on, and like he
flips them off and then go after him.

608
00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:04.760
He crashes his bike. He goes
onto the run and then he like

609
00:41:04.840 --> 00:41:07.760
hides from them, and he finds
the London Dungeon because he sees the killers

610
00:41:07.800 --> 00:41:12.000
like starting to tail him, so
he runs back into the London Dungeon and

611
00:41:12.039 --> 00:41:15.280
that's when he knocks over the secretary
of the dungeon and he goes off into

612
00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:19.960
the dungeon to kind of hide.
Secretary run gets her glasses knocked off,

613
00:41:19.960 --> 00:41:22.360
they gets stopped on by the killer. The killer comes in and then it's

614
00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:24.719
basically, like I would say,
about a five minute not even chase sequence,

615
00:41:24.760 --> 00:41:29.039
but just hiding sequence of him going
through the dungeon, the killer picking

616
00:41:29.119 --> 00:41:31.599
up various stabbing implements. Yeah,
no, it is. It is mostly

617
00:41:31.679 --> 00:41:36.159
just the character goof the killer,
goofing around. Yeah, so much so

618
00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:38.199
that when we see the corpse of
the secretary, you don't even realize it's

619
00:41:38.239 --> 00:41:40.800
her at first, because it's just
kind of a set piece of the dungeon

620
00:41:40.840 --> 00:41:44.440
at that point. Well, and
because like who would have had the time

621
00:41:44.599 --> 00:41:47.639
to string and hang her upside down
from the ceilings. They talked to her

622
00:41:47.639 --> 00:41:51.400
on making a horror movie, and
she said that that was a shoot that

623
00:41:51.440 --> 00:41:53.719
she was not very fond of because
she was hanging there for like forty minutes

624
00:41:53.719 --> 00:41:59.039
while they got the shot ready,
Oh cry about it to tell to your

625
00:41:59.159 --> 00:42:04.079
union rep. But no. The
London Dungeon scene is also very relevant because

626
00:42:04.400 --> 00:42:07.880
it was the one and only time
that a film was ever allowed to shoot

627
00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:12.079
the London Dungeon. After that,
no film cruise further allowed to shoot inside

628
00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:15.280
there. I think it's adorable that
we're believing they had permission. That's that's

629
00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:21.880
also Yeah, so from that point
on that Santa gets killed. And one

630
00:42:21.920 --> 00:42:24.159
thing that Enrique and I realized while
watching this is some of the kills are

631
00:42:24.960 --> 00:42:28.920
decent to lazy or just I mean, what what would you? Right?

632
00:42:29.159 --> 00:42:32.920
There are a few good ones.
The ones that had that attempted suspense created

633
00:42:34.079 --> 00:42:37.800
it worked really well. Yeah.
Uh, the Chestnuts one had suspense,

634
00:42:37.880 --> 00:42:40.159
yep. The London Dungeon one had
a decent amount of suspense, but it

635
00:42:40.199 --> 00:42:44.639
was also kind of thrown together and
cobbled together a bit. Uh. But

636
00:42:44.719 --> 00:42:46.800
it's not hard to tell which ones
they attempted because the ones they don't attempt.

637
00:42:46.840 --> 00:42:51.960
It's just here's a Santa stab stab
stab stab. It's like one we

638
00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:54.400
have at the circus again, the
Piccadilly Circus going on, and we go

639
00:42:54.480 --> 00:42:59.679
inside the circus with some ad r
that's clearly not the Santa Claus is talking

640
00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:05.519
and stolen shots mind she was hold
on. And then the Santa's leave the

641
00:43:05.519 --> 00:43:07.840
circus tint they go outside. One
gets kicked in the nuts by a boot

642
00:43:07.880 --> 00:43:12.280
knife and then the other one gets
stabbed with a bottle and then gets stabbed

643
00:43:12.280 --> 00:43:15.119
with a bottle again to where the
eye just pops out with no sound effects.

644
00:43:15.159 --> 00:43:16.599
Yeah, yeah, he sticks the
bottle in his eye, but it's

645
00:43:16.639 --> 00:43:21.559
silent. It's like here you go, buddy. And then following that,

646
00:43:21.800 --> 00:43:23.639
we have the as as you heard
in the trailer for the show, we

647
00:43:23.719 --> 00:43:30.320
have starring Carolyn Monroe herself, except
what two minutes well, and all she's

648
00:43:30.360 --> 00:43:34.000
doing is performing a song from I'm
guessing her upcoming music career. It was,

649
00:43:34.119 --> 00:43:36.119
Yeah, it was her music career
at the time. She performs a

650
00:43:36.119 --> 00:43:38.880
song Warrior of Love. So essentially
what happens in this scene is a sana,

651
00:43:38.920 --> 00:43:44.239
a drunk Santa wanders into a theater
because he thinks that it's where the

652
00:43:44.239 --> 00:43:46.679
party is and he has to run
away from the stage guy, and then

653
00:43:46.719 --> 00:43:51.039
the killer ends up following him back
into it. So then he runs down

654
00:43:51.039 --> 00:43:53.000
into the basement where the stage is
and he's running around. Up top,

655
00:43:53.239 --> 00:43:58.039
Caro mon Row and her band are
going into Warrior of Love and meanwhile down

656
00:43:58.039 --> 00:44:00.480
below the Santa still being stock.
Now this is where we also don't get

657
00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:04.559
the kill on screen, which happens
pretty often too. Yeah, that's very

658
00:44:04.559 --> 00:44:07.960
true because what happens is and this
was also another question that brought us when

659
00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:10.000
we were watching. This is Carol
Monrose performing and then you see the sound

660
00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:14.079
guy like, okay, trapdoor,
go ahead, and they raise the trap

661
00:44:14.079 --> 00:44:16.199
door and there's the dead Santa guy
with the axe in his face. What

662
00:44:16.239 --> 00:44:19.360
were they putting on that trap door
to begin with? I don't know,

663
00:44:19.400 --> 00:44:22.920
it's possible. I guess that the
trap door could have been to take her

664
00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:28.280
off stage. But then why not
just have it already waiting for her,

665
00:44:28.400 --> 00:44:30.039
Like, yeah, why would you
have it come up so that she could

666
00:44:30.039 --> 00:44:34.880
step on it and lower it down? I'll tell you something. Let me

667
00:44:34.920 --> 00:44:38.280
tell you something else about show business. Okay, did she write that song?

668
00:44:38.679 --> 00:44:40.840
Yeah, she was a part writer
on it, that's what she says.

669
00:44:42.039 --> 00:44:47.239
Right. So here's the thing.
So you hire her for affordable day

670
00:44:47.320 --> 00:44:52.199
rate for a day, you make
her look glamorous and awesome as a singer,

671
00:44:52.239 --> 00:44:54.880
and you have her sing her own
song. That song is registered with

672
00:44:54.920 --> 00:45:00.719
either as CAP or bm I or
uh yeah, and I might have said

673
00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:02.079
the wrong name whatever, ASCAP.
I think it's right. Well, ASKAP

674
00:45:02.159 --> 00:45:05.920
is definitely right. No, it's
bm I. No, BMI's right.

675
00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:08.960
Yeah, And I've done this so
I know this. When you register,

676
00:45:09.039 --> 00:45:15.800
I register the ASKAP. When the
film plays places, the song is listed

677
00:45:15.880 --> 00:45:21.320
on the que sheet. So if
it ever airs on television or gets licensed

678
00:45:21.320 --> 00:45:24.239
for something or whatever, yeah,
you get residuals. Okay, that's why

679
00:45:24.320 --> 00:45:28.199
it's a good deal for her,
because it promoted her song. Yeah,

680
00:45:28.320 --> 00:45:30.000
if it airs on television, she
gets residuals. And that's a real thing.

681
00:45:30.199 --> 00:45:32.679
It airs on regular television, you
get residuals. It may not be

682
00:45:32.719 --> 00:45:36.320
a lot, but back then it
was a lot. More So, it's

683
00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:39.000
really just kind of a perfect like
little well. And she's a grab at

684
00:45:39.039 --> 00:45:42.039
this point for a name, which
is why, of course she's featured in

685
00:45:42.039 --> 00:45:44.920
the trailer, because by this point
nineteen sixty seven is Casino Royale, The

686
00:45:44.920 --> 00:45:47.599
Abominable Doctor Five's In seventy one,
Doctor Five's rises again in seventy two,

687
00:45:47.719 --> 00:45:51.880
Captain Kronos a vampire hunter. In
seventy four, The Spy You Love Me

688
00:45:51.880 --> 00:45:55.000
in seventy seven, Star Crash in
seventy eight, Maniac in eighty, the

689
00:45:55.079 --> 00:45:59.360
Last Horror Film at eighty two,
Slaughter High in eighty six, Faceless in

690
00:45:59.400 --> 00:46:00.599
eighty eight, and The Black Cat
in eighty nine. So I mean even

691
00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:05.559
before Slaughter High and Faceless, she
was still a big name at this she

692
00:46:05.679 --> 00:46:09.239
was definitely declining if she did this
film and then Slaughter High, so she

693
00:46:09.400 --> 00:46:16.840
was definitely on her way out.
I'm just saying, do You Even Movie

694
00:46:16.920 --> 00:46:32.519
will be right back, Welcome back
to Do You Even Movie? So this

695
00:46:32.639 --> 00:46:36.239
is the same year as a last
horror film, which is one that you

696
00:46:36.239 --> 00:46:38.400
and I watched recently as well,
and that actually kind of was her tail

697
00:46:38.480 --> 00:46:40.920
end to horror to where she basically
just did bit rolls from that point.

698
00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:45.079
That was quite quite a thing,
a film, quite an experience. Yeah,

699
00:46:45.159 --> 00:46:47.920
Severn just released it. If you
haven't seen Last Horror Film aka Maniac

700
00:46:49.000 --> 00:46:52.000
two AKAA fanatic, highly recommend,
really really fun movie just for the con

701
00:46:52.519 --> 00:47:00.199
the cons film festival star. Yeah, but no can can. So we

702
00:47:00.280 --> 00:47:02.480
have that happen with Carol Monroe.
Then we get probably one of the most

703
00:47:02.519 --> 00:47:06.800
famous murders in the film, which
is we have an apartment store Santa that's

704
00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:09.480
finished up his shift. He's shopping. He goes down to use the lavatory,

705
00:47:09.639 --> 00:47:13.920
and then the killer sneaks in and
just hacks off his dick because he's

706
00:47:13.960 --> 00:47:19.400
taken a pit and just it's just
one fluid motion and then he peeces blood.

707
00:47:19.639 --> 00:47:22.880
And much like at the beginning of
the film, people don't scream when

708
00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:25.440
they're being murdered in London, which
makes me wonder just what the blitz Creek

709
00:47:25.480 --> 00:47:31.039
did to those people, because in
in the beginning, when the spear goes

710
00:47:31.039 --> 00:47:34.320
through the guy's head, yeah,
and he dies it for everybody, they

711
00:47:34.320 --> 00:47:40.800
all literally they go like oh oh. They react like you shit yourself in

712
00:47:40.840 --> 00:47:45.760
front of them. They don't react
like you've been murdered. There's no screaming,

713
00:47:45.800 --> 00:47:47.480
there's no faint. You even said
you're like, why are they wincing?

714
00:47:47.679 --> 00:47:51.519
Yeah, They're all just like oh, like one person looked like they

715
00:47:51.559 --> 00:47:53.719
were like oh great. Like one
person will like put their hand on their

716
00:47:53.719 --> 00:47:58.320
head and like turn down. I
was like like when Prnom was directing that

717
00:47:58.400 --> 00:48:01.079
scene was He's just like, okay, and now you found out your cat

718
00:48:01.119 --> 00:48:09.639
has diabetes. Cut count I'm drunk. It is, and that's the final

719
00:48:09.840 --> 00:48:14.280
Santa kill of the movie because then
we basically get the reveal of what is

720
00:48:14.320 --> 00:48:19.000
going on and spoiler alert once again. Giles is actually the brother of Perdam's

721
00:48:19.079 --> 00:48:22.400
character. He had a very traumatic
incident when they were kids to where he

722
00:48:22.559 --> 00:48:27.159
got a They do a flashback where
you see he gets a nice little Swiss

723
00:48:27.199 --> 00:48:30.760
army knife for Christmas and he's celebrating. Father Christmas brings it and he's just

724
00:48:30.880 --> 00:48:36.400
stabbing the air with it and playing
with the corks kids, and then his

725
00:48:36.480 --> 00:48:38.400
mom sends him off to bed.
He goes up to the bedroom and finds

726
00:48:38.440 --> 00:48:43.280
his brother still or his father still
dressed, his father Christmas having an affair

727
00:48:43.280 --> 00:48:45.920
with another woman. The mother comes
up. He shoves the mother down the

728
00:48:45.920 --> 00:48:50.480
steps, so we assume that she
dies because she screams and then doesn't move

729
00:48:50.519 --> 00:48:54.239
again. And then he also like
shoves Giles. He incapacitated her so that

730
00:48:54.280 --> 00:48:59.760
she couldn't stop him from killing his
father. Yeah, and so yeah,

731
00:49:00.400 --> 00:49:05.519
ter consort sort consort and Giles is
just standing on the staircase playing with like

732
00:49:05.679 --> 00:49:07.559
just holding this knife and just angrily
and then it cuts to Perdome waking up.

733
00:49:07.599 --> 00:49:10.280
So what you find out is Giles
is the brother of Perdome. He

734
00:49:10.440 --> 00:49:14.800
was sent to a sanitarium. Shortly
after that he got out. Per Doome's

735
00:49:14.840 --> 00:49:16.639
been visiting him for years and years
and years out of guilt, and now

736
00:49:16.679 --> 00:49:21.760
he's secretly posing as this newspaper guy. But he's the killer who's killing off

737
00:49:21.800 --> 00:49:24.440
Santa's because he wants Predomed to have
this case that he basically can't solve.

738
00:49:24.480 --> 00:49:30.440
And it's never explained if he's actually
somebody who works for the newspaper. Yeah,

739
00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:31.760
because there's a part of the say
we called and they don't know anything

740
00:49:31.800 --> 00:49:35.320
about you. But then he shows
him a newspaper and his name is on

741
00:49:35.639 --> 00:49:38.599
an article. So but that name
is his real name, because they have

742
00:49:38.679 --> 00:49:42.760
that whole part where it turns out
Harris changed his name to Harry Harrison from

743
00:49:42.840 --> 00:49:46.559
Harrison. Yeah. So but uh, But before we get into the needy,

744
00:49:46.559 --> 00:49:52.840
gritty, thrilling conclusion of don't open
until Christmas, I want to mention

745
00:49:52.880 --> 00:49:55.320
I feel like we glossed over too
quickly the peep show kill Oh okay,

746
00:49:55.400 --> 00:50:00.199
okay, because this is one of
the this is like to me, this

747
00:50:00.239 --> 00:50:05.760
is the scene that defines the film. We see a department store Santa Claus

748
00:50:06.360 --> 00:50:09.559
not drunk, not drunk, No, just British, Yeah, just British.

749
00:50:09.679 --> 00:50:13.480
We see us a department store,
Santa Claus go into a peep show

750
00:50:14.159 --> 00:50:16.440
and he picks up the phone and
this girl starts talking to him. The

751
00:50:16.559 --> 00:50:21.320
dialogue in this scene is super offbeat. It is, and I mean that

752
00:50:21.400 --> 00:50:23.280
with love. Yeah. Like he
comes in and he's like, I've never

753
00:50:23.320 --> 00:50:28.000
been to a place like this before. She's like me, neither, It's

754
00:50:28.039 --> 00:50:30.199
completely new to me. And you
know, she's lie. She's like,

755
00:50:30.440 --> 00:50:35.760
well, you know, their job
is to create a fantasy. So then

756
00:50:35.800 --> 00:50:37.559
he's like you know, he's like, I live with my mother and work

757
00:50:37.599 --> 00:50:39.679
at the you know whatever. And
she's like, oh, I live with

758
00:50:39.719 --> 00:50:43.079
my mother too, And he's like, well, you know, how does

759
00:50:43.079 --> 00:50:44.800
she feel about you doing? Does
she know what you do for a living.

760
00:50:44.800 --> 00:50:46.880
And she's like she owns the place. She's just making stuff up to

761
00:50:46.880 --> 00:50:52.719
make the guy go like whoa you
know. And so as they're starting to

762
00:50:52.800 --> 00:50:54.400
heat things up, and she's saying
like drop another five and I'll take off

763
00:50:54.400 --> 00:51:00.119
my top and there's a plexan yeah
blast between them. Yeah. Then all

764
00:51:00.119 --> 00:51:04.239
of a sudden, he gets stabbed
and blood sprays all over race now she

765
00:51:04.440 --> 00:51:07.840
is established as a character that we
get to follow the rest of the movie,

766
00:51:07.840 --> 00:51:09.559
which is not long as we said, It was about thirty minutes away

767
00:51:09.559 --> 00:51:14.039
from the ending. So then she
goes to the police department. The police

768
00:51:14.039 --> 00:51:16.599
are like, hey, you saw
the killer's face. He's gonna come back

769
00:51:16.639 --> 00:51:20.000
for you. So, which is
weird because it's like, why did he

770
00:51:20.039 --> 00:51:22.079
come back? I didn't just kill
her then, but he's like, they're

771
00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:23.440
gonna he's gonna come back for you. Then she's like, oh, I

772
00:51:23.519 --> 00:51:25.360
just want to go to work.
Can I go to work? And they're

773
00:51:25.400 --> 00:51:29.480
like, no, no, because
the killer's gonna come for you. Yeah,

774
00:51:29.519 --> 00:51:31.159
So then what does she do.
She goes back to work. Whip,

775
00:51:31.280 --> 00:51:34.639
She goes back to work, and
the killer comes for her at the

776
00:51:34.679 --> 00:51:38.320
work and it just some of the
killer breaks through the glass kidnaps her.

777
00:51:38.400 --> 00:51:42.480
So now it breaks very easily through
the ground. He put it out because

778
00:51:42.519 --> 00:51:45.000
he just like puts his hands through
it and it just shatters. Yeah.

779
00:51:45.079 --> 00:51:49.960
Yeah, it was like Jason Voorhe's
in part three. But so now she's

780
00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:53.000
she's been kidnapped. Yeah, and
by the guy who we all know is

781
00:51:53.039 --> 00:51:57.480
Giles, but apparently we're not supposed
to know he's Giles, showing only showing

782
00:51:57.480 --> 00:52:01.159
his mouth, even though he does
not do anything to hide his So then

783
00:52:01.320 --> 00:52:06.920
when she is captive and they reveal
it's Giles, and then he's interacting with

784
00:52:06.960 --> 00:52:08.880
her, even then, the interactions
are weird. She does not seem to

785
00:52:08.960 --> 00:52:12.960
understand he's going to kill her,
even though he says it well, and

786
00:52:13.000 --> 00:52:17.440
she's confused by even though she's she's
literally watched him murder someone. Yeah,

787
00:52:17.800 --> 00:52:22.840
what is like you know, uh
uh, you saw me murder someone?

788
00:52:22.920 --> 00:52:24.719
You saw my face? Oh god, what are you gonna do? I'm

789
00:52:24.840 --> 00:52:31.320
night in, Madam lieber Stock,
Like, like, what what did you

790
00:52:31.360 --> 00:52:35.440
think was gonna happen? He's gonna
freaking off you? And why is he

791
00:52:35.519 --> 00:52:37.480
keeping you? Probably because he's a
pervert, but you know, I'm not

792
00:52:37.519 --> 00:52:42.199
here to make assumptions. But even
when he kidnaps her, he even says

793
00:52:42.199 --> 00:52:45.920
it's because she sells her body,
that she doesn't have respect. He saw

794
00:52:45.119 --> 00:52:47.000
my face, yeah, the big
one. But yeah. But then he

795
00:52:47.000 --> 00:52:51.039
says, like, you're just like
all of all of them, all the

796
00:52:51.079 --> 00:52:52.559
women. You sell your body,
you sell it, you sell a piece

797
00:52:52.599 --> 00:52:57.039
by piece. He has a whole
monologue that's honestly pretty well delivered. The

798
00:52:57.079 --> 00:53:00.079
guy who plays Giles is good.
Yea Lake is phenomena. He's good,

799
00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:04.480
so U but I just want to
mention that. So then when when she

800
00:53:04.800 --> 00:53:07.039
escapes, yeah, okay, well
Le's back out, okay, okay.

801
00:53:07.199 --> 00:53:10.800
So the whole movie, Kate is
trying to figure out obviously what's going on,

802
00:53:10.840 --> 00:53:14.599
and she knows that something is up
with Perdam's character, like she knows

803
00:53:14.639 --> 00:53:20.679
that Inspector Harris just has something involved
and that he's sexy. So they end

804
00:53:20.760 --> 00:53:23.920
up sharing a nice Christmas dinner together
because she finds out that he's been going

805
00:53:23.920 --> 00:53:27.840
to Parkland, which is a sanitarium. She goes to visit it. We

806
00:53:27.840 --> 00:53:30.480
don't see any of that except her
going into it sitting, and then that's

807
00:53:30.519 --> 00:53:32.440
it. So we're kind of left
as viewers of what's going on. So

808
00:53:32.519 --> 00:53:36.880
then she goes to this nice dinner
with per Dome and not really anything happens

809
00:53:36.880 --> 00:53:39.480
except Cliff catches them and goes off
angrily. She goes back to her apartment

810
00:53:39.519 --> 00:53:43.840
and Giles has broken in, and
he's still given the whole thing of oh,

811
00:53:43.840 --> 00:53:45.400
well, I work for the newspaper
and I'm just here to ask questions.

812
00:53:45.400 --> 00:53:50.239
Well, then she realizes that he's
the brother, because she's put two

813
00:53:50.280 --> 00:53:52.000
and two together at this point,
she knows that he's changed his name from

814
00:53:52.000 --> 00:53:55.039
Harrison. She knows that Perdome has
a brother. So then the phone goes

815
00:53:55.039 --> 00:53:59.480
to ring because Pal's calling her,
So Giles just straights up, strangles her,

816
00:53:59.519 --> 00:54:01.800
then kills her, and then that
strangles then kill he'll strangles her and

817
00:54:01.840 --> 00:54:07.639
then stabs stabs her brutal, so
very brutally. So then Powell goes to

818
00:54:07.639 --> 00:54:09.280
her apartment because she doesn't pick up
the phone, finds the body. He

819
00:54:09.360 --> 00:54:13.880
calls the rest of the inspectors because
they've been supposed to watch for Dome,

820
00:54:13.920 --> 00:54:15.599
and they're like, well, he
hasn't left his apartment all night, which

821
00:54:15.599 --> 00:54:19.559
is bullshit because they went to dinner. So that's a lie, yeah,

822
00:54:21.599 --> 00:54:24.960
or bad writing could have been a
lie. Yes. So so then Powell

823
00:54:25.119 --> 00:54:30.320
decides that he's going to tail Giles, so he find he tails him to

824
00:54:30.440 --> 00:54:32.440
this auto yard and he's trying to
get after him, and then Giles ends

825
00:54:32.519 --> 00:54:37.440
up rigging this card that he's searching
to shock and kill Powell. So Pal

826
00:54:37.519 --> 00:54:40.199
dies from electrocution. Giles goes back
to and a pretty big cop out of

827
00:54:40.239 --> 00:54:44.679
it. Others, yeah, a
lot of sparks, A lot of sparks,

828
00:54:45.239 --> 00:54:46.920
Giles. So he goes back to
Sharon and he's like, you know,

829
00:54:47.000 --> 00:54:50.760
I'm gonna kill you at Christmas time. And she's trying to, like,

830
00:54:50.800 --> 00:54:52.199
you know, get him to warm
up to the idea of Christmas and

831
00:54:52.199 --> 00:54:55.480
bringing back memories and and doing so
distracts him, grabs a board, hits

832
00:54:55.559 --> 00:54:59.760
him, and this is our prostitute
hero. Yeah, who just starts saying

833
00:55:00.079 --> 00:55:06.800
Christmas goose and I'm pudding and very
lights and he's just stop it, which

834
00:55:07.480 --> 00:55:13.039
which I love because it doesn't make
any sense why she would know that Christmas

835
00:55:13.079 --> 00:55:17.519
ephemera makes him so angry. She
doesn't. She just starts rattling us off.

836
00:55:17.519 --> 00:55:22.480
Now, maybe she noticed the way
he reacted to one thing, so

837
00:55:22.719 --> 00:55:24.239
she just kept saying him, I'm
gonna give the benefit of the doubt with

838
00:55:24.280 --> 00:55:27.920
a doubt. But yeah, So
now she hits him with a board,

839
00:55:28.119 --> 00:55:31.119
gets out and runs up these stairs
and John because he's unchained her so she

840
00:55:31.119 --> 00:55:34.199
can eat her food. Yes,
he brings her repair. Yes, how

841
00:55:34.199 --> 00:55:39.039
can I forget? Yeah? Yep, do you even movie? Will be

842
00:55:39.199 --> 00:55:54.239
right back? Welcome back to do
you even movie? The unchained her,

843
00:55:54.320 --> 00:55:57.679
She hits him on the board,
runs out the door, and he is

844
00:55:58.159 --> 00:56:00.440
She doesn't the door is locked.
Oh the door's lock he has yeah,

845
00:56:00.440 --> 00:56:02.559
oh yeah, because she says I
need the key to the door, and

846
00:56:02.559 --> 00:56:08.400
the key. She's either she's either
yelling just in general, or she's asking

847
00:56:08.480 --> 00:56:10.599
him for the like asking him where
the key is? I mean, she

848
00:56:10.679 --> 00:56:14.000
does say where is the key,
turns around and looks at him, and

849
00:56:14.039 --> 00:56:15.679
he pulls it out of his pocket, like, I'll here it is.

850
00:56:15.679 --> 00:56:19.519
I've had it this entire time.
Oh this key. How did I know

851
00:56:19.599 --> 00:56:22.559
you had the key? I guess
because you live here. She runs up

852
00:56:22.559 --> 00:56:24.000
to him, gets the key,
hits him again, gets out the door,

853
00:56:24.079 --> 00:56:27.880
and then they're in the basement of
like this three story building. So

854
00:56:27.920 --> 00:56:30.840
they just go running up the steps. Giles is knocking the chain against the

855
00:56:30.920 --> 00:56:34.079
railing tailing her. They get to
the top of the steps, he's cornered

856
00:56:34.119 --> 00:56:37.719
her where there's no place to run, and then she he swings the chain

857
00:56:37.840 --> 00:56:44.039
over the railing. She grabs it, pulls the chain and launches child's off

858
00:56:44.039 --> 00:56:50.159
this three story staircase to the bottom. Yeah, and I know what you're

859
00:56:50.199 --> 00:56:53.000
thinking, clearly Giles is dead.
Well. She returns to giles body for

860
00:56:53.079 --> 00:56:57.599
some fucking reason which I still don't
understand. I mean, I guess she

861
00:56:57.639 --> 00:57:00.880
would want to confirm the killer's dead. I guess, yeah. But she

862
00:57:00.920 --> 00:57:02.159
had to pass by him to go
down the stairs out the floor though.

863
00:57:02.360 --> 00:57:06.400
So Giles comes back to you screaming, and then we cut to Perdome,

864
00:57:06.440 --> 00:57:08.840
who's having trouble sleeping in bed.
He has the dream that is the flashback

865
00:57:08.880 --> 00:57:14.079
of Giles catching his father cheating and
killing the mother. And then Perdome goes

866
00:57:14.119 --> 00:57:15.920
out to his living room and this
is the ending scene of the film.

867
00:57:16.119 --> 00:57:19.719
He lights a cigarette, and the
beginning of the film, he received a

868
00:57:19.760 --> 00:57:22.800
package that said don't open till Christmas. We see a mail carrier bring it

869
00:57:22.840 --> 00:57:23.800
to him, and then we just
see the package sit the rest of the

870
00:57:23.840 --> 00:57:27.559
movie. So he picks it up. He sees a note that says from

871
00:57:27.559 --> 00:57:30.599
your loving brother. He opens it
up. It's a music box that has

872
00:57:30.639 --> 00:57:37.000
a Santa spinning and playing jingle,
and so he goes to light a cigarette.

873
00:57:37.039 --> 00:57:39.800
He's sitting down. The music box
finishes and then blows up. It

874
00:57:40.199 --> 00:57:46.920
just on his mantle. It explodes
massively, and the way the scene is

875
00:57:46.960 --> 00:57:51.920
shown, yeah, is the best
part. It explodes and he just kind

876
00:57:51.960 --> 00:57:58.920
of goes sees some makeup because apparently
when they blew up the thing, he

877
00:57:59.000 --> 00:58:01.760
didn't turn the way he was supposed
to, so he falls over. And

878
00:58:01.800 --> 00:58:07.320
before he's even done falling over to
the ground, the credits fade in.

879
00:58:07.559 --> 00:58:08.719
It's like, we're done, guys, we're done. The movie's over.

880
00:58:08.760 --> 00:58:16.079
That's it. Christmas, so that, my Friends is don't open until Christmas

881
00:58:16.079 --> 00:58:20.960
from nineteen eighty four, And I
mean, wow, I just I love

882
00:58:21.039 --> 00:58:22.840
this movie. No, it's so
much fun. And I know we spent

883
00:58:22.920 --> 00:58:28.599
a lot of time picking on the
film, but it's because of these massive,

884
00:58:28.800 --> 00:58:32.800
glaring, unrelenting flaws that I love
this movie and watch it almost every

885
00:58:32.880 --> 00:58:36.920
Christmas. Yeah. Well, and
there's just there's just those little cheeky moments,

886
00:58:36.920 --> 00:58:39.639
like we we forgot to mention that
Giles before he unchained Sharon. He's

887
00:58:39.639 --> 00:58:42.119
like, you're not going to scape, are you? And she's like,

888
00:58:42.159 --> 00:58:45.320
I won't, And then the camera
just has to show she crosses her fingers.

889
00:58:46.280 --> 00:58:52.000
She's an adult woman lying to save
her life and she has to cross

890
00:58:52.039 --> 00:58:57.599
her fingers. It's and this is
see but this is guys, this is

891
00:58:57.679 --> 00:59:05.239
absurdity fatigue. We can't we just
guys, we just watch this film,

892
00:59:06.000 --> 00:59:09.000
like we just we just shut the
movie off and came in here and recorded,

893
00:59:09.079 --> 00:59:15.800
yes we do, and we were
forgetting ridiculous details because that's how outrageous.

894
00:59:15.199 --> 00:59:19.519
Don't open until Christmas is and I
mean it goes, it goes without

895
00:59:19.559 --> 00:59:22.079
showing that. Like we said,
this movie was a trouble production. And

896
00:59:22.119 --> 00:59:24.239
I feel like I have a lot
of charm for trouble productions because it's just

897
00:59:24.599 --> 00:59:29.199
charm for trouble production. I mean, I just I find them charming in

898
00:59:29.239 --> 00:59:30.559
regards of the fact we still get
the movie. Yeah. No, I

899
00:59:30.800 --> 00:59:34.519
agree. There are a few good
examples. Devil's Time Devile times five,

900
00:59:34.599 --> 00:59:37.920
Yes, is a really good example
of a troubled movie that turned out really

901
00:59:37.960 --> 00:59:40.159
fun. Yeah, And there are
big mainstream examples too. I can't think

902
00:59:40.199 --> 00:59:42.880
of any off the top of my
head. I mean, I just did

903
00:59:42.880 --> 00:59:45.000
a podcast with our good buddy Birdman
over this week in Geek on the Maniac

904
00:59:45.039 --> 00:59:49.039
Cop series, and Maniac Cop three
is one of the most I think infamous

905
00:59:49.079 --> 00:59:52.920
troubled productions for Yeah. Yeah,
So, I mean, it's just the

906
00:59:52.960 --> 00:59:54.840
fact that we have this movie.
We have a great release of it now

907
00:59:54.880 --> 00:59:59.079
too, with a bunch of bonus
features, and I mean it's a perfect

908
00:59:59.599 --> 01:00:04.119
holiday slasher film if you're looking for
one that's just pure entertainment. I mean

909
01:00:04.199 --> 01:00:07.000
I would say, you don't want
to watch it by yourself, you want

910
01:00:07.000 --> 01:00:08.320
to watch it with a group of
friends so you could have a laugh.

911
01:00:08.480 --> 01:00:13.639
But yeah, yeah, I agree. So in final thoughts, I just

912
01:00:14.599 --> 01:00:16.719
I'm gonna give this a stream it
rating. We have three ratings on do

913
01:00:16.800 --> 01:00:20.360
even movie. We have stream it, rent it, or buy it.

914
01:00:20.519 --> 01:00:24.199
I'm gonna give this a stream it
because I think it's just one that unless

915
01:00:24.239 --> 01:00:28.159
this is in your wheelhouse of holiday
slashers or just slashers in general, I

916
01:00:28.199 --> 01:00:30.239
don't really think it's gonna be one
you just want to go out and buy

917
01:00:30.280 --> 01:00:31.960
it immediately. Yeah, I would
have to agree with that. If I

918
01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:35.239
was gonna give it a rating,
it would be a stream it as well.

919
01:00:35.320 --> 01:00:39.360
Yeah, with a caveat that.
If you are a big movie nerd

920
01:00:39.440 --> 01:00:44.760
weirdo who likes to watch offbeat things
every year, you know, if you're

921
01:00:44.800 --> 01:00:49.400
if you're somebody who you know watches
Silent Night Deadly Night every year like I

922
01:00:49.480 --> 01:00:52.880
do, then you probably want to
own it. Yes, But that being

923
01:00:52.960 --> 01:00:57.639
said, I mean with the ease
you can stream it. You may as

924
01:00:57.679 --> 01:01:00.400
well stream it absolutely, so that's
my opinion. Into and if you want

925
01:01:00.480 --> 01:01:05.440
an extra recommendation, if don't know
until Christmas is enough isn't enough for you?

926
01:01:05.599 --> 01:01:08.239
I do have one that I'm gonna
bring to the table and get ready,

927
01:01:08.280 --> 01:01:12.480
Enrica, Oh no, I know
what it's gonna be. To All

928
01:01:12.519 --> 01:01:16.199
a Good Night nineteen eighty directed by
David Hesse of Last House on the Left

929
01:01:16.239 --> 01:01:19.400
and House on the Edge of the
Park. This is a film about a

930
01:01:19.440 --> 01:01:22.039
group of girls at a finishing school
that are planning a party during Christmas break

931
01:01:22.039 --> 01:01:24.519
at their house, but their past
comes back to haunt them in the form

932
01:01:24.559 --> 01:01:29.599
of a killer dressed is Santa Claus. It's a fun one. I am

933
01:01:29.639 --> 01:01:31.639
glad I actually could see it,
Yeah, because the first time I watched

934
01:01:31.639 --> 01:01:35.440
it all the Night scenes were too
dark to make out what was happening.

935
01:01:35.880 --> 01:01:38.320
The blu ray that came out,
you can actually tell what's happening anymore.

936
01:01:38.760 --> 01:01:45.000
But I think it's a perfect pairing. Well, yeah, the only problem

937
01:01:45.000 --> 01:01:46.719
with that movie, or not problem
even one of the things I like the

938
01:01:46.760 --> 01:01:51.239
most about about an all through the
House? Yeah? Or was that too

939
01:01:51.239 --> 01:01:53.679
allga to all the Night? Yeah? Eas in confusion One of my favorite

940
01:01:53.679 --> 01:02:00.280
things about TWA al A Good Night
is that it is so recklessly and shamelessly

941
01:02:00.360 --> 01:02:05.639
derivative. It is just like ripping
off Happy Birthday, to be wrapping off

942
01:02:05.639 --> 01:02:09.000
April Fool's Day wrap, ripping off
just any slasher movie, but weirdly none

943
01:02:09.039 --> 01:02:13.559
of the successful ones. It's like
ripping off the ones that people like.

944
01:02:13.679 --> 01:02:17.000
Now. I don't know why,
but but that is. That is the

945
01:02:17.119 --> 01:02:22.440
experience you get with that film.
Yeah, it's not as outrageous. Honestly.

946
01:02:22.480 --> 01:02:24.679
The funniest thing in that whole movie
for me is that two of the

947
01:02:24.679 --> 01:02:27.960
guys are supposed to be in high
school and they look like they're like forty

948
01:02:27.960 --> 01:02:30.760
five or not. To mention when
you recognize those couple of porn stars that

949
01:02:30.800 --> 01:02:36.280
appeared, well, I mean they're
like Jamie Gillison stuff and Harry Reims isms.

950
01:02:36.320 --> 01:02:39.039
Ye yeah, yep. So no, I think that's a decent recommendation.

951
01:02:39.760 --> 01:02:44.480
I would also recommend Silent Night Bloody
Night, Yes, because it is

952
01:02:44.599 --> 01:02:47.639
good. It's it's a pretty good
movie, but it's it's it's available everywhere.

953
01:02:49.039 --> 01:02:53.159
It's pretty Christmas ye, very low
budget, but it has a charm

954
01:02:53.239 --> 01:02:55.719
to it that I think works.
But there I don't know if there is

955
01:02:55.760 --> 01:02:59.719
a Christmas movie this insane other than
like Silent Night, Deadly Night too.

956
01:02:59.760 --> 01:03:02.119
And I think to piggyback off you
in regards the silent Ie Bloody Night.

957
01:03:02.199 --> 01:03:06.400
I love the gothic nature of it
with the big house speeds. Yeah,

958
01:03:06.400 --> 01:03:10.400
it does have gothic element institutions super
Oh so that's a fun one. Yeah,

959
01:03:10.400 --> 01:03:14.440
I would agree with that. I
think that is what I've got to

960
01:03:14.440 --> 01:03:16.880
say. Final thoughts on the tone
of Christmas? Do you have any sir?

961
01:03:17.519 --> 01:03:27.360
Uh? I guess my final thought
on don up until Christmas is,

962
01:03:27.400 --> 01:03:30.639
no matter how many bear breasts you
can pay for, no matter how many

963
01:03:30.639 --> 01:03:38.400
explosions and squibs you could throw at
the audience, when you just truly lack

964
01:03:38.480 --> 01:03:44.480
an understanding of the human minds the
way these people did. Like it's like

965
01:03:44.519 --> 01:03:45.880
when people watch The Room and they're
like, it feels like it was written

966
01:03:45.880 --> 01:03:50.079
by somebody from another planet. That's
how Steeves sometimes how these movies feel.

967
01:03:50.079 --> 01:03:53.400
They feel like they were assembled by
an alien race that only understands us from

968
01:03:53.440 --> 01:03:59.519
like watching The Flintstones. Yeah,
so that's my final thought. Other than

969
01:03:59.559 --> 01:04:02.199
that, I think it's totally worth
watching at least once in your holiday viewing

970
01:04:02.320 --> 01:04:05.119
easily to find right now. Like
we said, the Blu Ray is available

971
01:04:05.159 --> 01:04:09.039
from Vincent and it's available lots of
places in the stream. You can find

972
01:04:09.039 --> 01:04:11.920
it just about anywhere anywhere. So
yeah, make sure you check out dont

973
01:04:11.920 --> 01:04:17.960
on Christmas nineteen eighty four, directed
by Edmund Perdom and Alan Bergshaw appsbolutely And

974
01:04:18.000 --> 01:04:23.039
that is our first Christmas recommendation and
we have many more to come. Oh

975
01:04:23.039 --> 01:04:28.079
there's always more, my DearS.
So but before we get out of here,

976
01:04:28.239 --> 01:04:30.960
I want to say thank you to
everybody who checked out our first two

977
01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:33.119
episodes. This looks good Kill in
Planes, Trains and Automobiles. They were

978
01:04:33.239 --> 01:04:36.360
really fun episodes to do. And
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979
01:04:36.360 --> 01:04:41.480
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980
01:04:41.599 --> 01:04:45.719
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981
01:04:45.719 --> 01:04:48.320
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982
01:04:48.360 --> 01:04:51.599
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983
01:04:51.639 --> 01:04:55.679
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984
01:04:55.719 --> 01:04:58.880
have you around us or something.
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985
01:04:58.920 --> 01:05:02.239
Even Movie Pod email dot com.
Or contact us at the website. And

986
01:05:02.760 --> 01:05:09.159
next week's show, we're going to
be covering a film that we discovered that

987
01:05:09.239 --> 01:05:13.320
I feel like not enough other people
have discovered, called Mercy Christmas. It

988
01:05:13.440 --> 01:05:17.239
is a indie movie for my I
think twenty seventeen, and it is a

989
01:05:18.159 --> 01:05:21.079
it's a strange one, a fun
one, and I wish more people had

990
01:05:21.119 --> 01:05:25.639
seen it. I think it barely
has sixty reviews on Amazon. It deserves

991
01:05:25.719 --> 01:05:29.440
a lot more attention. So we're
going to tell you all about it next

992
01:05:29.440 --> 01:05:32.639
week. But until then, all
of you be well, stay whatever,

993
01:05:32.760 --> 01:05:38.039
and don't dress as Santa Claus in
Love for good. Let me just take

994
01:05:38.039 --> 01:05:42.639
the Santa head off. We'll see
you guys next week. Next week,